After 9/11/01 we had some changes made to our society, airport security was probably the biggest.
So, what changes do you think could happen after this virus passes?

Since money (cash or coins or even checks and credit/debit cards) is our biggest germ spreader, do you think we could eventually become a "cashless society?"

How credit/debit cards become "germ spreaders" is if you hand a person your card to run it or even if you run it though the machine, you still have to put in your pin number by touching the buttons thus spreading germs.

Interesting question. I think there will always be cash around, but maybe not as much of it. I still cringe when I think about before this stuff happened, not that long ago, actually- I had been saving all of my change so when I would go out to eat, I would break a bill and put the change in my wallet. Then I saved all the change and ended up with about $40 worth. I tolk it to the bank and used one of those change machines where you dump the money into it and it counts it automatically. It never even occurred to me to wash all of that change off before I took it to the bank but I will be doing that from now on.



You did bring up some good points. I think some things will change and I hope that one thing that changes is that any restaurant with seating will have to comply with the same kind of cleaning ritual that they are doing now (well before they closed and went to take out only).



I mentioned this last night in another thread but seriously, this is a huge problem and I'm surprised that more people haven't gotten sick from the bacteria and stuff in restaurants. Not an epidemic like COVID-19, but just illness. Makes me kind of sick to thinkabout it actually.

I think the biggest change is what we are seeing and that is we are becoming a remote based society. Ironically I predicted many years ago during my first time in grad school (around 2002) that we would see more jobs become remote. In fact my previous (now hope to be current) job was instructional design and these jobs are increasingly done online. I know people who are online teachers and all their classes are online and they work full time as teachers but never go to the school. Obviously I didn't think it would be due to a virus but rather that technology was going that way.

There's probably gonna be more take-out delivery...Uber and Doordash will be the stocks to buy.

I dunno how we're gonna recover from this panicdemic. We may even see virtual parades or parades not happening again nor any major events for now...I'm sorry, but...I see grey skies here...I wanna have the skies blue, but it's VERY difficult for me...

I think the biggest change is what we are seeing and that is we are becoming a remote based society. Ironically I predicted many years ago during my first time in grad school (around 2002) that we would see more jobs become remote. In fact my previous (now hope to be current) job was instructional design and these jobs are increasingly done online. I know people who are online teachers and all their classes are online and they work full time as teachers but never go to the school. Obviously I didn't think it would be due to a virus but rather that technology was going that way.


I can't see all schools going remote. Kids need social interaction as well and they would miss that if they only had classes online. Just my thought on that. The good thing about online school is that there's less risk of being bullied due to no recess, etc. But as I said the bad thing IMO would be the lack of social interaction.



As far as jobs are concerned I would LOVE if more of them transitioned to online. I currently don't have a job and honestly if I had been able to do my call center job from home... well, let's just say that things would be very different now. Long story, but seriously there are so many jobs out there that could be done online and I've never understood why my office was so adamant about NOT letting us work online. In fact, my former boss asked me several months ago what she could do to help me and I said "Let me work from home." She and another supervisor literally laughed in my face. And of course now that things are the way they are, I am hearing from my former coworkers that they are allowed to work from home. Really ticks me off, to be honest.

Shaking hands is going to become a thing of the past or very rare!

Shaking is going to become a thing of the past or very rare!

Even before the coronavirus I hated the concept of handshakes. Maybe in the future we can take a page from the Japanese and just bow. It's more respectful and sanitary.

Here is another thought.....

Since we were told that the virus seems to affect the "older population" more than the young, I wonder if the older (50 or older) will be forced into retirement---it would be for there on safety, of course---leaving more jobs open for the young. Hmmmmm...?

I can't see all schools going remote. Kids need social interaction as well and they would miss that if they only had classes online. Just my thought on that. The good thing about online school is that there's less risk of being bullied due to no recess, etc. But as I said the bad thing IMO would be the lack of social interaction.



As far as jobs are concerned I would LOVE if more of them transitioned to online. I currently don't have a job and honestly if I had been able to do my call center job from home... well, let's just say that things would be very different now. Long story, but seriously there are so many jobs out there that could be done online and I've never understood why my office was so adamant about NOT letting us work online. In fact, my former boss asked me several months ago what she could do to help me and I said "Let me work from home." She and another supervisor literally laughed in my face. And of course now that things are the way they are, I am hearing from my former coworkers that they are allowed to work from home. Really ticks me off, to be honest.

I was talking along the line of colleges. I recently received both a masters and a teaching certificate in online teaching and did most of my classes completely online. Online college is great for those who want to get another degree but don't or can't attend in person. With kids though, I think it depends. I think online is great for certain types of kids (kids with special needs or gifted, bullied, etc). In general I preferred online classes because I can do the assignments when I want and not much interaction with my classmates. People often say college students need interaction but in general I didn't. Honestly, when I was in college in the early 90's I resented being in classes with some of the students because I often got matched into groups with students who didn't care. The reality is I kept in contact with only a few from college or graduate school. In fact I remember very few of their names, even those who were "college friends".

I can't see all schools going remote. Kids need social interaction as well and they would miss that if they only had classes online. Just my thought on that. The good thing about online school is that there's less risk of being bullied due to no recess, etc. But as I said the bad thing IMO would be the lack of social interaction.



As far as jobs are concerned I would LOVE if more of them transitioned to online. I currently don't have a job and honestly if I had been able to do my call center job from home... well, let's just say that things would be very different now. Long story, but seriously there are so many jobs out there that could be done online and I've never understood why my office was so adamant about NOT letting us work online. In fact, my former boss asked me several months ago what she could do to help me and I said "Let me work from home." She and another supervisor literally laughed in my face. And of course now that things are the way they are, I am hearing from my former coworkers that they are allowed to work from home. Really ticks me off, to be honest.


As far as schooling from home -- homeschooling in United States has debunk the lack of social interaction in school aged children.

In 2019 a report concludes that approximately 1,770,000 students are homeschooled in the United States—3.4% of the school-age population.

Debunking the Socialization Myth

Probably the question most often asked of homeschoolers is, “What about socialization?” One of the greatest stumbling blocks to homeschooling is the public perception that homeschooled students are isolated and unsocialized. In fact, the opposite is often true, as homeschoolers have the opportunity to socialize with many different groups and ages, not just with their own peers in a traditional school setting.

As the homeschooling movement has matured, the public concern over unsocialized homeschoolers has waned, especially as people see homeschoolers excelling in college and career environments. HSLDA has commissioned several studies of homeschoolers that looked at the issue of socialization. These have consistently shown that the average homeschooler is far from isolated.- HSLDA

Click link: http://www.hslda.org/highschool/Best_Socialization.pdf

https://www.homeschool-life.com/2092/custom/41572

As far as schooling from home -- homeschooling in United States has debunk the lack of social interaction in school aged children.

In 2019 a report concludes that approximately 1,770,000 students are homeschooled in the United States—3.4% of the school-age population.

Debunking the Socialization Myth

Probably the question most often asked of homeschoolers is, “What about socialization?” One of the greatest stumbling blocks to homeschooling is the public perception that homeschooled students are isolated and unsocialized. In fact, the opposite is often true, as homeschoolers have the opportunity to socialize with many different groups and ages, not just with their own peers in a traditional school setting.

As the homeschooling movement has matured, the public concern over unsocialized homeschoolers has waned, especially as people see homeschoolers excelling in college and career environments. HSLDA has commissioned several studies of homeschoolers that looked at the issue of socialization. These have consistently shown that the average homeschooler is far from isolated.- HSLDA

Click link: http://www.hslda.org/highschool/Best_Socialization.pdf

https://www.homeschool-life.com/2092/custom/41572

I have mixed feelings about homeschooling. On one hand I worry that the parents teaching aren't qualified. For example, many parents don't even have degrees and that might be bad if they don't know what they are teaching. We have neighbors that have been "homeschooling" and the kids are always outside and not smart at all. On the other hand I know kids homeschooled by their very educated parents (usually teachers or former teachers) and see many benefits. For example, I know a girl homeschooled because she was severely bullied in school. Her mother is very intelligent and is teaching and doing great. Her scores are way above average. I was never homeschooled and it wasn't common when I was a kid, but by far most of my friends were from school AND activities I participated in. The majority of my classmates were either those I didn't like, had no feelings about or were at best students I chatted with and did activities in class together but didn't get together outside of school. However classmates who were in activities with me either at school or not at school were my best friends. I suspect it's because with activities you have shared interests, whereas with school everyone is together.

This is the next step in thier NWO plan so I dont know if it will get any better :(

I do like the concept of online college b/c these days so many people are busy with full time or part time jobs as well and from what I remember about going to college in the late 80's the classes (the basic ones anyway) are mostly lectures, so it would be easier to have those online. But more and more Ive seen ads on TV for online public schools as well.

I have mixed feelings about homeschooling. On one hand I worry that the parents teaching aren't qualified. For example, many parents don't even have degrees and that might be bad if they don't know what they are teaching.


That's very true. My mom was a teacher so she would have been a great home school teacher, had I had to go that route. But that is worrisome that parents who aren't qualified are teaching their children, even if they have good intentions.

Even before the coronavirus I hated the concept of handshakes. Maybe in the future we can take a page from the Japanese and just bow. It's more respectful and sanitary.

Or like in India where they do Namaste by simply putting your hands together like you're praying.

Here is another thought.....

Since we were told that the virus seems to affect the "older population" more than the young, I wonder if the older (50 or older) will be forced into retirement---it would be for there on safety, of course---leaving more jobs open for the young. Hmmmmm...?

YES!!!!!!! Early retirement would be AWESOME ! :)I'm 58 now and I'm SO TIRED of working, I'd retire in a minute if I could ! If there is a silver lining to this dark cloud of corona virus being able to retire in your late 50's would be fantastic !! ;) YES! Leave the jobs to the young people who have the physical and mental strength and ambition , let us old, middle aged burn outs retire !! :D;)

YES!!!!!!! Early retirement would be AWESOME ! :)I'm 58 now and I'm SO TIRED of working, I'd retire in a minute if I could ! If there is a silver lining to this dark cloud of corona virus being able to retire in your late 50's would be fantastic !! ;) YES! Leave the jobs to the young people who have the physical and mental strength and ambition , let us old, middle aged burn outs retire !! :D;)

What do you do for a living?

What do you do for a living?

She's a caregiver for the elderly.

YES!!!!!!! Early retirement would be AWESOME ! :)I'm 58 now and I'm SO TIRED of working, I'd retire in a minute if I could ! If there is a silver lining to this dark cloud of corona virus being able to retire in your late 50's would be fantastic !! ;) YES! Leave the jobs to the young people who have the physical and mental strength and ambition , let us old, middle aged burn outs retire !! :D;)

Mt mother use to say, "retirement sounds really good, right up to the point that you do!"

She's a caregiver for the elderly.


Yes! And I AM the elderly just about !!! :lol:

I actually wish I was working right now, either volunteer or otherwise. Sigh....

Yes! And I AM the elderly just about !!! :lol:

Wow! That's tough work that often doesn't pay well. Are you one of the lucky ones that does get paid well?

Wow! That's tough work that often doesn't pay well. Are you one of the lucky ones that does get paid well?

No! :lol:

No! :lol:

So you get under $15/hr?

I wonder how relationships with family, spouses, or who/what you love will be in affect?

I know I have no love-life, but...will it be nonexistent for ones who yearn for a love-life?

I wonder how relationships with family, spouses, or who/what you love will be in affect?

I know I have no love-life, but...will it be nonexistent for ones who yearn for a love-life?

No way. Humans are biological creatures that have NEEDS. People will just take extra precautions when meeting a date. EVERYONE will be carrying pocket hand sanitizer!

With this social distancing we are seeing or learning how certain things can be done. Such as in my area, church services online, local town committees, one can tune in and be seen and heard for they are online. I am amazed how the tv newscasters are showing their programs. Chris Como doing his show from his basement. I do hoping he is feeling better. Even our local tv station has weatherman at home and somehow you see the background show at the studio with the map of what the weather will be. Amazing!

I wonder how celeb. meet-and-greets (fan conventions, book signings) will be affected. A lot had to cancel their personal appearances and upcoming conventions had to cancel/postpone.

I saw that some companies were doing "Virtual Cons" where you would pay a fee for a timed Skype with a celeb. The prices went up on the amount of minutes you wanted and they charged more for a autographed photo mailed to you. The prices were ridiculous.

I wonder how celeb. meet-and-greets (fan conventions, book signings) will be affected. A lot had to cancel their personal appearances and upcoming conventions had to cancel/postpone.

I saw that some companies were doing "Virtual Cons" where you would pay a fee for a timed Skype with a celeb. The prices went up on the amount of minutes you wanted and they charged more for a autographed photo mailed to you. The prices were ridiculous.


Interesting point. I think that book signings will still happen but they may limit the number of people. Skyping with a celebrity would be cool, but I wouldn't pay a lot for an autographed picture. Some of my most treasured autographed pictures are those I received after I wrote a letter to someone.

I also wonder how going to work (physical offices) and doctors will be affected when things go back to "normal". Will people who are sufficiently able to work from home ever have to go back to the physical building?

For the medical field, I know that mental health has been almost all virtual. For general practitioners they are only taking emergencies when a patient has to be physically examined (at least my doctor's facility is).

I was reading that NYU Langone has an outstanding virtual medical dept where they are seeing patients all virtually. Some patients have their own blood pressure and heart rate monitor (pulse oximeter) at home where they send the hospital their medical updates. I do wonder if we will see less people at medical facilities for procedures/examinations that really don't need a physical exam.

I also wonder how going to work (physical offices) and doctors will be affected when things go back to "normal". Will people who are sufficiently able to work from home ever have to go back to the physical building?

For the medical field, I know that mental health has been almost all virtual. For general practitioners they are only taking emergencies when a patient has to be physically examined (at least my doctor's facility is).

I was reading that NYU Langone has an outstanding virtual medical dept where they are seeing patients all virtually. Some patients have their own blood pressure and heart rate monitor (pulse oximeter) at home where they send the hospital their medical updates. I do wonder if we will see less people at medical facilities for procedures/examinations that really don't need a physical exam.

I was talking about this to someone I know in real life, and in some cases it will be a great thing. Last year I earned my masters in counseling and passed the state exam to practice. However, in many counseling sections, such as drug counseling, most of the jobs are low pay in bad areas. There is a shortage of drug counselors, and, I am always offered these jobs but I don't want to make a low wage to travel to an area where I am likely to be attacked. Anyway, next week there is a seminar on how to incorporate tele-health in counseling and the idea is that the shortage will allow counselors to work in bad areas if they can counsel online. All around good idea because while the client doesn't get an in person counselor they can see them and it would help those at home and hire people who would take low wages to counsel at home.

Another thing I've noticed is businesses getting rid of self-services.

I see that most supermarkets around me have closed their salad bars and now have pre-packaged salads instead. Some convenience stores have gotten rid of their self-served coffee/tea area. I haven't been to 7-11 since the shutdown so I don't know if they still do it.

I don't know if it applies for all locations, but I saw on the news that McDonald's has gotten rid of their self-service soda machines.

I don't know if it applies for all locations, but I saw on the news that McDonald's has gotten rid of their self-service soda machines.

The McDonald's in my town has closed off the self serve soda machine and soda now has to be ordered from an employee.

I do like the concept of online college b/c these days so many people are busy with full time or part time jobs as well and from what I remember about going to college in the late 80's the classes (the basic ones anyway) are mostly lectures, so it would be easier to have those online. But more and more Ive seen ads on TV for online public schools as well.

Online school is either the best thing ever, or the worst, depending on variables such as the student, how determined they are etc. It's funny because I was in college in the early 90's, graduate school the first time from 2002-2004 and graduate school the second time 2016-2019 and saw many changes. For example, like you mentioned, those college lectures, ugh. I'm sure we all had those professors who gave boring lectures then when you went to take the exam, found that half of what was on that you forgot or he never mentioned and you either randomly chose or read other books (not online) on that topic. Luckily I never flunked a class but even so, ended up with a lower grade than I hoped (like a B or C). Or how about when you had an assignment and you had to give it directly? I remember typing up my research paper for English 102 (the second English class I was required to take) and my typewriter broke in the middle of typing so on Saturday afternoon went to a store to buy a new one. Yes, youngsters, a TYPEWRITER. I finished my paper (which by the way wrote several times before I typed because we had to do that to hand in several drafts). I ended up going to class just to hand it in and then to pick it up and talk to my professor. As it turns out I got an A and my professor asked if she could make a copy to show future students and I said yes.

When I was in college they had these classes called telecourses. You would go to the school and get videotapes on the lesson, and watch it along with any reading material. You would then go and take the test at school. These could be harder, and were intended to be harder than regular classes I think. By the time I got to grad school there were "online classes" but they mostly consisted of writing papers and doing other assignments and emailing them back to the professor. However, even as late as 2004 most classes still hadn't changed to online.

Compare this to my last time in grad school. Out of all my classes (over 20), only three classes I took this time were not online, and out of those, two were hybrid (half online, half not). I only had one was a class that met weekly but he put the lecture online, and a few weeks we didn't have class so he sent us the assignments to submit online. In fact even though it was a weekly class we submitted assignments online. This professor proved to be invaluable because he told us to save all of our assignments until we passed the CADC, which I did and passed the first time (most of my classmates took the test several times).

However, back to the online classes and because we didn't meet weekly, we had weekly assignments. Usually we had a discussion post where you had to answer a question using sources and sometimes adding your opinion, and citing the sources. Then once you finished this, you responded to at least two classmates saying why you agreed or didn't and adding sources. The tests were online and the good thing is you had your sources on hand, but many of these tests were intentionally made harder. The school used Blackboard, a common program for school and they would show you your grades either immediately (usually in the case of tests) or when the teacher submitted them so you knew. I'll never forget sweating about my grades, worrying I flunked, only to find I got an A. I graduated with a 4.0. GPA. The good thing about online is you can work on assignments at any time. I often set aside times on Friday, that way I could edit before they were due on Sunday. The bad thing is you had to keep up every week and make sure you logged in every week. I know classmates who flunked because they forgot to log in and thought it would be like in person where if you aren't there for a week, no biggie.

^ You also need the discipline for online schooling and not get easily distracted. I can’t work in absolute silence so I have music playing or I listen to podcasts, others I know need quiet.

After 9/11/01 we had some changes made to our society, airport security was probably the biggest.
So, what changes do you think could happen after this virus passes?

Since money (cash or coins or even checks and credit/debit cards) is our biggest germ spreader, do you think we could eventually become a "cashless society?"

How credit/debit cards become "germ spreaders" is if you hand a person your card to run it or even if you run it though the machine, you still have to put in your pin number by touching the buttons thus spreading germs.


Being born during the Great Depression and living as long as I am, there have been many big changes, Some I had to live with and some I did not, like the crypto thing that is up and down and I ignore this one.

We are now in throws of the Great Reset. Cost of living in CA has always been high with the entertainment industry and housing costs....but I've been able to weather that one coming from a little town in the East, but NOW, CA is losing people as many can't afford to live here. This is a First in my 57 yrs here.

A large change that took place is when women and ladies in general started to wear long pants, pant suits, etc. I can remember that one and my mother.