View Full Version : The show started declining when Tootie got rid of her mushroom haircut


TV Guy
04-04-2020, 01:52 PM
I’m not claiming causation, just correlation. Think about it.

'80sSitcoms
04-04-2020, 01:57 PM
Well by that argument you could say the same thing about Natalie and her extra-long pigtails, or "when the show went to Edna's Edibles" because they both got new hairstyles for season 5 when they left Eastland for Edna's Edibles. And EE's were still some good times.

RetroGuy2000
04-04-2020, 02:19 PM
Yeah, there definitely was a decline. But I think the causation was actually Mrs. G gradually being put out to pasture.

'80sSitcoms
04-04-2020, 02:22 PM
I don't think there was yet. Mrs. Garrett was heavily involved with EE and her girls.

Wawwie
04-04-2020, 02:22 PM
The major causation is when Edna's Edibles burned down and was replaced with the horrendous Over Our Heads

cfr1970
04-04-2020, 02:26 PM
I totally disagree. As hideous as that haircut was on her, she did some of her best scenes wearing it. The Jermaine Jackson episode if one of my favorite with her. I love how hysterical she gets with Mrs. Garret over seeing him, and in the end when she has her realization moment. One of Kim's best episodes of the series imo.

'80sSitcoms
04-04-2020, 02:28 PM
I totally disagree. As hideous as that haircut was on her, she did some of her best scenes wearing it. The Jermaine Jackson episode if one of my favorite with her. I love how hysterical she gets with Mrs. Garret over seeing him, and in the end when she has her realization moment. One of Kim's best episodes of the series imo.

No no no cfr, he said when she got rid of it, not when she got it---put your monocle on and read your screen right! :grr:

:lol:

:D

cfr1970
04-04-2020, 02:31 PM
No no no cfr, he said when she got rid of it, not when she got it---put your monocle on and read your screen right! :grr:

:lol:

:D

LOL! OHHHHH! I read it as when she GOT her mushroom cut!

I need to up the number on my readers LOL.

Well now i'll answer the actual post now. :lol:

I have to agree then. She did look SO much better when she got rid of it, but I can see it starting to go off the rails a little in the 6th season. But there are some really great episodes still....I'm just dreading the final 3 seasons because people don't seem to like them at all. (valentina i'm looking at you!) :wave::wave:

'80sSitcoms
04-04-2020, 02:33 PM
I totally disagree.

I have to agree then.

:rofl:

cfr1970
04-04-2020, 02:35 PM
:rofl:

Well changing just one little word in that thread title does change things completely!! I zoomed my little Chromebook at 120% so I won't make that mistake again!

Now get off my lawn! :grr:

'80sSitcoms
04-04-2020, 02:37 PM
:rofl:

Yes, sir!

[runs off mischievously with other younger posters]

:lol:

RetroGuy2000
04-04-2020, 02:45 PM
LOL! OHHHHH! I read it as when she GOT her mushroom cut!

I need to up the number on my readers LOL.

Well now i'll answer the actual post now. :lol:

I have to agree then. She did look SO much better when she got rid of it, but I can see it starting to go off the rails a little in the 6th season. But there are some really great episodes still....I'm just dreading the final 3 seasons because people don't seem to like them at all. (valentina i'm looking at you!) :wave::wave:

I feel similarly to Valentina... However, there are some good episodes mixed in with the other episodes. 8-01, 8-02, and 8-06 are classics, and I also enjoy 9-23 and 9-24. I can't find anything redeemable in Season 7. Except maybe 7-01.

Impressions
04-04-2020, 04:22 PM
This is the most ridiculous statement I’ve read in awhile :lol:

The show has plenty of great episodes in the later years. The writing was hit or miss in the later years but a haircut being a jump the shark moment seems preposterous to me.

'80sSitcoms
04-04-2020, 05:05 PM
^---Well, in his defense, he was claiming the correlation as a coincidence.

Lorimar Television
04-04-2020, 07:55 PM
I prefer Tootie with pigtails myself, the mushroom cut was my least fav of her hairstyles

RetroGuy2000
04-04-2020, 08:20 PM
I prefer Tootie with pigtails myself, the mushroom cut was my least fav of her hairstyles

The mushroom cut was just a variation of a bowl cut. Once Molly Ringwald was axed, they had to give Tootie that cut. It was a requirement of 1980s television that "the cute kid" kid had to have a "bowl".

Lorimar Television
04-04-2020, 08:22 PM
The mushroom cut was just a variation of a bowl cut. Once Molly Ringwald was axed, they had to give Tootie that cut. It was a requirement of 1980s television that "the cute kid" kid had to have a "bowl".

Well they shoulda just let it go with molly

'80sSitcoms
04-04-2020, 09:35 PM
I prefer Tootie with pigtails myself, the mushroom cut was my least fav of her hairstyles

I prefer Tootie with the topknot and the bottom "flare-out"! :wave:

RetroGuy2000
04-04-2020, 09:38 PM
I prefer Tootie with the topknot and the bottom "flare-out"! :wave:

Nobody does flared hair anymore! </Blair> :lol:

'80sSitcoms
04-04-2020, 09:39 PM
I KNEW you would make a flared jeans joke!!!

RetroGuy2000
04-04-2020, 09:41 PM
I KNEW you would make a flared jeans joke!!!

Ah, you know me too well. I just had another of my brilliant joke ideas! :lol:

Lorimar Television
04-04-2020, 09:49 PM
I prefer Tootie with the topknot and the bottom "flare-out"! :wave:

The first half of season 3 is my second fav hairstyle of hers

valentina warner
04-04-2020, 11:08 PM
LOL! OHHHHH! I read it as when she GOT her mushroom cut!

I need to up the number on my readers LOL.

Well now i'll answer the actual post now. :lol:

I have to agree then. She did look SO much better when she got rid of it, but I can see it starting to go off the rails a little in the 6th season. But there are some really great episodes still....I'm just dreading the final 3 seasons because people don't seem to like them at all. (valentina i'm looking at you!) :wave::wave:


So you're looking at me cfr1970! (i hope not under a microscope though):lol::lol::lol:

The later seasons do have their moments too:

Season 7 has only got one episode i like: 'Out of the fire' (before they built 'Over our heads') but that's it!

I tend to mix season 8 and 9 (i watched the later seasons on YouTube 8 years ago) but there is a couple of episodes i like in them, so here it goes:

1. MRS G's departure: she has a moment with each of her girls (while BEVERLY ANN 'accidentally' arrives) during her wedding ceremony.

2. BLAIR gets accepted as a 'law student' and is accused on having an affair with the teacher who is married! (in the end the wife comes after her and JO intervenes).

And

3. When BLAIR falls for the social worker (but i think that's nearer the end).

4. But, i also like one of the last episodes, when she becomes the headmistress of 'Eastland' to try to save it from closing down: it shows dignity and loyalty, to what was her school for so many years....:):):)

cfr1970
04-04-2020, 11:14 PM
So you're looking at me cfr1970! (i hope not under a microscope though):lol::lol::lol:

The later seasons do have their moments too:

Season 7 has only got one episode i like: 'Out of the fire' (before they built 'Over our heads') but that's it!

I tend to mix season 8 and 9 (i watched the later seasons on YouTube 8 years ago) but there is a couple of episodes i like in them, so here it goes:

1. MRS G's departure: she has a moment with each of her girls (while BEVERLY ANN 'accidentally' arrives) during her wedding ceremony.

2. BLAIR gets accepted as a 'law student' and is accused on having an affair with the teacher who is married! (in the end the wife comes after her and JO intervenes).

And

3. When BLAIR falls for the social worker (but i think that's nearer the end).

4. But, i also like one of the last episodes, when she becomes the headmistress of 'Eastland' to try to save it from closing down: it shows dignity and loyalty, to what was her school for so many years....:):):)

Do you like the one where Blair is stuck in the elevator with her sister and the holocaust survivor? That one always stood out in my memory because it was kind of a serious one and we get to see a different side of Blair.

I forgot which season it was but I caught it last year during the Decades marathon, and still found it just as good as I remembered.

valentina warner
04-04-2020, 11:48 PM
Do you like the one where Blair is stuck in the elevator with her sister and the holocaust survivor? That one always stood out in my memory because it was kind of a serious one and we get to see a different side of Blair.

I forgot which season it was but I caught it last year during the Decades marathon, and still found it just as good as I remembered.


Yes, the elevator episode with the holocaust survivor is good too: we get to see a mature and brave side of BLAIR, when she has a long talk with him about his past.:wave::wave::wave:

By the way: do you like TWILIGHT ZONE too (the Rod Serling series) being a H O H R R O R fan?:D:D:D

PS: the holocaust guy was on some of the TWILIGHT EPISODE too! (my father is the one who introduced me to the series):talk::talk::talk:

cfr1970
04-05-2020, 12:33 AM
Yes, the elevator episode with the holocaust survivor is good too: we get to see a mature and brave side of BLAIR, when she has a long talk with him about his past.:wave::wave::wave:

By the way: do you like TWILIGHT ZONE too (the Rod Serling series) being a H O H R R O R fan?:D:D:D

PS: the holocaust guy was on some of the TWILIGHT EPISODE too! (my father is the one who introduced me to the series):talk::talk::talk:

Yes, I love the Twilight Zone! I caught a bunch of them on Netflix a few years ago but still haven't seen them all. The ones I remember that freaked me out were the woman driving the car and the hitch hiker kept appearing. That was so creepy.

And another one where a woman is alone in a department store...I forgot what happened but I remember it was so eerie. And of course the fun one where everyone ugly is considered beautiful and the beautiful woman was considered a hideous monster. I have to eventually get the whole dvd collection of that series.

RetroGuy2000
04-05-2020, 01:24 AM
The Twilight Zone episode I always remember is the one with the guy's glasses. :lol:

cfr1970
04-05-2020, 01:28 AM
The Twilight Zone episode I always remember is the one with the guy's glasses. :lol:

What's the title of that one? I wanna see if it's one that I saw. It doesn't sound familiar to me.

RetroGuy2000
04-05-2020, 01:39 AM
What's the title of that one? I wanna see if it's one that I saw. It doesn't sound familiar to me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Enough_at_Last

'80sSitcoms
04-05-2020, 01:54 AM
What's the title of that one? I wanna see if it's one that I saw. It doesn't sound familiar to me

It doesn't?? Are you kidding?? I'm no TZ fan, and even I know that's one of the most famous episodes! :lol: :D

cfr1970
04-05-2020, 01:59 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Enough_at_Last

Oh YES! I saw that one. The ending was just so wrong lol. I felt terrible for that poor guy.

cfr1970
04-05-2020, 02:03 AM
It doesn't?? Are you kidding?? I'm no TZ fan, and even I know that's one of the most famous episodes! :lol: :D

I remember it now, but all he said was the one with the guy's glasses. It just didn't ring a bell until I saw the Wiki link on the episode. It's really a good one.

Now had he said "the one with the broken glasses and all the books"---that would have instantly jogged my memory and i'd have remembered it.

Wawwie
04-05-2020, 02:10 AM
I thought Tootie's hair looked best when she met Jeff at Edna's Edibles.

RetroGuy2000
04-05-2020, 02:15 AM
I remember it now, but all he said was the one with the guy's glasses. It just didn't ring a bell until I saw the Wiki link on the episode. It's really a good one.

Now had he said "the one with the broken glasses and all the books"---that would have instantly jogged my memory and i'd have remembered it.

I was trying not to spoil it...

cfr1970
04-05-2020, 02:25 AM
I was trying not to spoil it...

Ah! Now I understand. I appreciate that. :wave::wave:

I just had a thought about that episode...why the hell couldn't Mr. Bemis just go to a drug store and pull a pair of glasses off the rack?! :lol:

'80sSitcoms
04-05-2020, 02:30 AM
Ah! Now I understand. I appreciate that. :wave::wave:

I just had a thought about that episode...why the hell couldn't Mr. Bemis just go to a drug store and pull a pair of glasses off the rack?! :lol:

His prescription!

(but yes, I wish there was an easy solution! lol)

cfr1970
04-05-2020, 02:41 AM
His prescription!

(but yes, I wish there was an easy solution! lol)

Oh!...Well, then I guess he was f'd. :lol:

valentina warner
04-05-2020, 07:01 PM
Yes, I love the Twilight Zone! I caught a bunch of them on Netflix a few years ago but still haven't seen them all. The ones I remember that freaked me out were the woman driving the car and the hitch hiker kept appearing. That was so creepy.

And another one where a woman is alone in a department store...I forgot what happened but I remember it was so eerie. And of course the fun one where everyone ugly is considered beautiful and the beautiful woman was considered a hideous monster. I have to eventually get the whole dvd collection of that series.


Do you wanna have a laugh cfr1970: CLORIS LEACHMAN (BEVERLY ANN from FOL) had an episode on the 'TWILIGHT ZONE'!!!!:lol::lol::lol:

I'v got the whole DVD box set from 'TWILIGHT ZONE' about 10 years ago and thank god: my father (who lives in New York) told me it's on the 'american Netflix' but it's definitely not on the UK one! (i know cos i tried to watch it from the 'UK Netflix' and it doesn't come up):mad:

Yes, 'TWILIGHT ZONE' is such a clever program, and most of what ROD SERLING predicted came true......:p (I even read on the headline news, that they were saying now with the 'CORONA VIRUS people should have a 'TWILIGHT ZONE' marathon):crazy:

'80sSitcoms
04-05-2020, 07:05 PM
Cloris also appeared in an "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" (a show I've always enjoyed, albeit it leaves you feeling creepy if you watch it before bed! lol). She was unlikable in the episode though---not her acting, I mean hear character.

cfr1970
04-05-2020, 07:14 PM
Do you wanna have a laugh cfr1970: CLORIS LEACHMAN (BEVERLY ANN from FOL) had an episode on the 'TWILIGHT ZONE'!!!!:lol::lol::lol:

I'v got the whole DVD box set from 'TWILIGHT ZONE' about 10 years ago and thank god: my father (who lives in New York) told me it's on the 'american Netflix' but it's definitely not on the UK one! (i know cos i tried to watch it from the 'UK Netflix' and it doesn't come up):mad:

Yes, 'TWILIGHT ZONE' is such a clever program, and most of what ROD SERLING predicted came true......:p (I even read on the headline news, that they were saying now with the 'CORONA VIRUS people should have a 'TWILIGHT ZONE' marathon):crazy:

Cloris was in quite a few things. I was watching some old cop show from the 60's a few months ago and there she was. I always thought MTM was her first gig, but she's been working steadily for 2 decades by then.

I want that Twilight Zone box set! It's only $40 for the whole series on dvd at Amazon so I added it to my wish list. :)

valentina warner
04-05-2020, 07:34 PM
Cloris was in quite a few things. I was watching some old cop show from the 60's a few months ago and there she was. I always thought MTM was her first gig, but she's been working steadily for 2 decades by then.

I want that Twilight Zone box set! It's only $40 for the whole series on dvd at Amazon so I added it to my wish list. :)


Go for it: TWILIGHT ZONE will guarantee keep you glued on your feet!:happyface:happyface:happyface

:so:so:so

cfr1970
04-05-2020, 08:03 PM
Go for it: TWILIGHT ZONE will guarantee keep you glued on your feet!:happyface:happyface:happyface

:so:so:so

At more than 1/2 the price of the FOL set, I think i'll wind up with that one first!

valentina warner
04-05-2020, 09:05 PM
At more than 1/2 the price of the FOL set, I think i'll wind up with that one first!


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