View Full Version : The Clampet refrigerator: kosher kitchen?
GentlemanJim 03-30-2020, 03:58 PM I'm sure that everyone remembers the dual refrigerators in the Beverly Hills kitchen, standing side by side with doors of opposite "hand".
At the time I just thought that to be symbolic of affluence. But learning in later years that its not kosher to eat a calf in it's mother's milk, and that a whole set of disciplines exist toward separating meat from dairy in a strictly kosher diet. I wonder if that refrigerator might be sending a message of sorts, to those attuned of that aspect?
Hazel Anyday 03-30-2020, 07:47 PM Yeah, Everyone knows Granny runs a Kosher kitchen. What with Kosher pig knuckles and possum gravy and those delicious Kosher owl burgers. Mmmm, good eatin'.:lol:
This sounds like a case that often happens when you think too much about simple things in a TV show and read all sorts of meanings into it where there was none. It happens to us all, so no offense.
By the way, the cartoon character in your icon I remember him in toons with a short little bald scientist as his assistant. But I forget his name and what cartoon series it came from? Was it from the Felix the Cat cartoons of the '60's?:confused:
Bonniegirl 03-30-2020, 07:52 PM Yeah, Everyone knows Granny runs a Kosher kitchen. What with Kosher pig knuckles and possum gravy and those delicious Kosher owl burgers. Mmmm, good eatin'.:lol:
This sounds like a case that often happens when you think too much about simple things in a TV show and read all sorts of meanings into it where there was none. It happens to us all, so no offense.
By the way, the cartoon character in your icon I remember him in toons with a short little bald scientist as his assistant. But I forget his name and what cartoon series it came from? Was it from the Felix the Cat cartoons of the '60's?:confused:
:lol:
Yeah, I don't think the Clampetts were Jewish !:D
Hazel Anyday 03-30-2020, 08:27 PM Also those type refrigerators were separated like that because the left side was the freezer and the right side was the refrigerator.
GentlemanJim 03-31-2020, 12:21 PM TThis sounds like a case that often happens when you think too much about simple things in a TV show and read all sorts of meanings into it where there was none. It happens to us all, so no offense.
By the way, the cartoon character in your icon I remember him in toons with a short little bald scientist as his assistant. But I forget his name and what cartoon series it came from? Was it from the Felix the Cat cartoons of the '60's?:confused:
The Clampetts aren't Jewish....but what about the writers? They would be the ones I'm talking about "sending a message"
Look closely and that's definitely not a "side by side" half freezer unit, they remove non frozen items from both sides at various times over the show's run, and that's what initially sparked my interest.
My avatar is Clyde Crashcup, from the original Chipmunks cartoons.
Thanks for the gratuitous psychoanalysis though, I'll keep it with the rest I have accumulated over the years. Perhaps like a christmas fruitcake I will re-gift it to someone in need?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNZWPVa9-ZQ
Chocolate Moose 03-31-2020, 12:51 PM i do think that some of the writers were Jewish. I remember one of the scenes had some obscure Jewish thing
GentlemanJim 03-31-2020, 01:43 PM i do think that some of the writers were Jewish. I remember one of the scenes had some obscure Jewish thing
And let me be abundantly clear, I am not trying to imply that there is anything wrong with it.
I'm just pointing out that often Jewish people have a way of putting a little "nudge" into their works,... sort of an ad-hoc role call of sorts. Something you'd likely never notice unless you too were Jewish. And I suspect that the kosher kitchen was just such an instrument.
GentlemanJim 03-31-2020, 01:52 PM You gotta admit, it's consistent with the "bull in a china closet" theme that the show is based upon.
Hazel Anyday 03-31-2020, 09:19 PM Well, I don't see it. But fine. When I said that it happens to all of us, reading things into scenes or words that really aren't there. There's an old saying about that, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." When someone reads a phallic symbol into it when it was never there. Other type examples of course, but I hope you get the idea.
And thanks for clearing up your cartoon icon. I know I've seen it but it's been decades. I have Felix the Cat '60's cartoons and I do believe there's a character similar to that professor in them and I think that's where I remember the little fat bald assistant scientist to the main guy that looks sort of like your icon. All very fuzzy in my memory banks.
P.S. I'm back now from my own searches, I found a picture of the characters from Felix The Cat, the assistant does not look at all like the image in my memory but here's a picture of the professor "Poindexter" from Felix The Cat, it is not what I remembered, must have been Alvin & Chipmunks characters that I thought of:
https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/c1a62701-d467-411c-91f4-a1f452d243ac/dbat9po-2c56debb-75b8-40eb-aea9-77d5fa819278.png/v1/fill/w_894,h_894,q_75,strp/felix_and_poindexter_doing_fists_by_marcospower1996-dbat9po.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpc3MiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwic3ViIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl0sIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiIvZi9jMWE2MjcwMS1kNDY3LTQxMWMtOTFmNC1hMWY0NTJkMjQzYWMvZGJhdDlwby0yYzU2ZGViYi03NWI4LTQwZWItYWVhOS03N2Q1ZmE4MTkyNzgucG5nIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTg5NCIsImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9ODk0In1dXX0.WuMrwm2jauwwhUCkYnGIK6XKwhztlEXmvIYOa9JB2lg
GentlemanJim 04-01-2020, 02:54 PM Well, I don't see it. But fine. When I said that it happens to all of us, reading things into scenes or words that really aren't there. There's an old saying about that, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." When someone reads a phallic symbol into it when it was never there. Other type examples of course, but I hope you get the idea.
And thanks for clearing up your cartoon icon. I know I've seen it but it's been decades. I have Felix the Cat '60's cartoons and I do believe there's a character similar to that professor in them
It's all cool, no biggie either way. ;)
I think that the little guy you are thinking of was named "Leonardo", who was often a victim of mishaps induced by Clyde Crashcup,
https://i.imgur.com/zIom5l0.jpg
GentlemanJim 04-01-2020, 05:32 PM "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." When someone reads a phallic symbol into it when it was never there. Other type examples of course, but I hope you get the idea.
Since you used the "P" word, I lived in Los Angeles for a bit over a decade, I had seen the Los Angeles City hall for years, like on the badge for the tv show "Dragnet", as well as others.
I had never particularly thought of that building in that way before, but one Sunday there was a puff piece in the Weekend edition of the paper that went in depth on the design and construction of that building, and a period interview of the architect who designed it. And he flatly stated that he intentionally designed the building with "that" in mind, to project an image of virility and strength.
https://i.imgur.com/BJgOzUI.jpg
Subsequent to my reading that article, I viewed the building a few more times, and although there is an obvious similarity, I didn't really feel inspired to see the building in that context.
Then one sunny day, with the sun sinking in the west, and just happening to be at the optimal viewing angle ...the play of the shadows, etc it really really became blatant. Obscene even.
I went back a couple times later hoping to duplicate the experience for the camera, but could never again duplicate the ideal setting.
Sometimes it's there, "hidden in plain sight" :rolleyes:
Hazel Anyday 04-01-2020, 06:37 PM Isn't that the building they used as The Daily Planet in the 1950's Superman show? You know, the real Superman, George Reeves.
And YES!! That's the little guy assistant, I remember, I don't think he ever talked just the other guy who sounds like Richard Hayden would do all the talking. I used to watch the '60's Alvin & Chipmunk cartoons when I was a kid back then, but I haven't seen them since. I still have the Chipmunks original Beatles album in my collection. That's an old relic now from the '60's too, like me I guess.
CosmicCharlie 04-25-2020, 06:13 PM Isn't that the building they used as The Daily Planet in the 1950's Superman show? You know, the real Superman, George Reeves.
And YES!! That's the little guy assistant, I remember, I don't think he ever talked just the other guy who sounds like Richard Hayden would do all the talking. I used to watch the '60's Alvin & Chipmunk cartoons when I was a kid back then, but I haven't seen them since. I still have the Chipmunks original Beatles album in my collection. That's an old relic now from the '60's too, like me I guess.
Leonardo (?)
just a hunch from 50 years ago +-
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