View Full Version : Mom/Facts of Life character comparisons
RetroGuy2000 03-28-2020, 06:21 PM Some of you have seen "Mom", the current CBS sitcom about a group of ladies suffering from alcohol/drug addiction. The writing on Mom is quite clever, and I don't think I've ever seen a sitcom quite like it.
I often see the characters of FOL compared to those on The Golden Girls, but Mom has a cast that harkens back to FOL, too. The main cast is all female, much like FOL, although it didn't start out that way (originally there were more characters, but they are no longer regularly on the show, after a Cast Purge changed the direction of the show, and they changed the main set). There are currently six women in the opening credits.
Jill is a self-absorbed, very rich woman who is obsessed with her looks and status. She uses her wealth and looks to get what she wants, but she does love the other girls, and they her.
Marjorie is the oldest of "the gals": the wise one who dispenses good advice when they eat quiche (or whatever) at the restaurant. The gals always come to her for advice.
Tammy is very butch, with masculine mannerisms. She always wears her hair in a ponytail, and she's usually wearing sweats.
Wendy is used only for comic relief. She's never had her own episode, and she's kind of an outcast from "the group". She's constantly being interrupted by other characters, before she even has a chance to speak.
Christy is the short blonde girl who often dresses very plainly, but who can be transformed into a beautiful girl when needed. She comes from a broken home, and is a little shy at times. Because she has no self-confidence, a rude comment can send her into a tailspin, but she does often manage to fight back. She holds grudges when someone hurts her feelings.
Bonnie is Christy's mother; she doesn't really have a FOL analogue, IMO.
cfr1970 03-28-2020, 07:25 PM I only watched the first couple of seasons of that show and then tuned out, so I can't make any FOL comparisons. Is it recommended for someone looking for new sitcoms to tune into? I remember the writing was pretty good and had a realistic edge to it which I liked.
But usually sitcoms go down in quality as they get older, especially the modern ones....is this one still good quality in your opinion? If so, i'll get the complete series after it ends and then watch it. (I don't want to jump back in during the middle/end of the series. I figure best wait till it's over and binge.)
RetroGuy2000 03-28-2020, 07:36 PM I only watched the first couple of seasons of that show and then tuned out, so I can't make any FOL comparisons. Is it recommended for someone looking for new sitcoms to tune into? I remember the writing was pretty good and had a realistic edge to it which I liked.
But usually sitcoms go down in quality as they get older, especially the modern ones....is this one still good quality in your opinion? If so, i'll get the complete series after it ends and then watch it. (I don't want to jump back in during the middle/end of the series. I figure best wait till it's over and binge.)
I can't speak for everyone else, but I adore it. Christy's struggle feels very real, and, like you, I liked that realistic edge.
I feel like the show has maintained a good quality: the premise has shifted (it started out centered around Christy's family, but now is much more centered around her new family: "the gals"), but it's still entertaining and funny, and a few episodes were tearjerkers.
I was surprised at how many comparisons I could make between the characters.
cfr1970 03-28-2020, 07:40 PM I can't speak for everyone else, but I adore it. Christy's struggle feels very real, and, like you, I liked that realistic edge.
I feel like the show has maintained a good quality: the premise has shifted (it started out centered around Christy's family, but now is much more centered around her new family: "the gals"), but it's still entertaining and funny, and a few episodes were tearjerkers.
I was surprised at how many comparisons I could make between the characters.
I remember the first couple of seasons had really good serious episodes that were tearjerkers. It reminded me of the serious tones the Norman Lear sitcoms of the 70's took and I liked that.
When it's finished i'll get the series and watch it. I think it's been on like 7 seasons now so i'll have lots of episodes to binge on...and now i'll be looking for the FOL comparisons in it. :lol:
Lorimar Television 03-28-2020, 07:41 PM Interesting so you’re thinking:
Marjory= Mrs G
Jill= Blair
Wendy= Natalie
Tammy= Jo
Christy= Tootie?
Tammy is relatively new, I’d say Bonnie is more Jo, a tough woman who was on the streets much of her life. Now if we add the lost chars we would have:
Violet= Nancy, pregnant before marriage and most storylines involve boyfriends, also has a storyline after she’s been demoted
Roscoe= Molly, doesn’t have many storylines and doesnt appear after losing main status
Baxter= Sue Ann, cause he smokes dope :lol: plus has the most storylines of the purged cast
Luke= Roger cause he’s “Nancy’s” boyfriend
Lorimar Television 03-28-2020, 07:42 PM I only watched the first couple of seasons of that show and then tuned out, so I can't make any FOL comparisons. Is it recommended for someone looking for new sitcoms to tune into? I remember the writing was pretty good and had a realistic edge to it which I liked.
But usually sitcoms go down in quality as they get older, especially the modern ones....is this one still good quality in your opinion? If so, i'll get the complete series after it ends and then watch it. (I don't want to jump back in during the middle/end of the series. I figure best wait till it's over and binge.)
Honestly I enjoy the show a lot, despite losing a lot of cast from early seasons the current cast is great
RetroGuy2000 03-28-2020, 07:48 PM Interesting so you’re thinking:
Marjory= Mrs G
Jill= Blair
Wendy= Natalie
Tammy= Jo
Christy= Tootie?
Naw, I was thinking
Wendy = Nancy
Christy = Cindy
Tammy is relatively new, I’d say Bonnie is more Jo, a tough woman who was on the streets much of her life. Now if we add the lost chars we would have:
Violet= Nancy, pregnant before marriage and most storylines involve boyfriends, also has a storyline after she’s been demoted
Roscoe= Molly, doesn’t have many storylines and doesnt appear after losing main status
Baxter= Sue Ann, cause he smokes dope :lol: plus has the most storylines of the purged cast
Luke= Roger cause he’s “Nancy’s” boyfriend
I can see the Bonnie/Jo comparison as well as the Violet/Nancy comparison, now that you've made it. Roscoe/Molly made me laugh VERY hard! :lol::lol::lol::lol:
RetroGuy2000 03-28-2020, 07:51 PM I remember the first couple of seasons had really good serious episodes that were tearjerkers. It reminded me of the serious tones the Norman Lear sitcoms of the 70's took and I liked that.
When it's finished i'll get the series and watch it. I think it's been on like 7 seasons now so i'll have lots of episodes to binge on...and now i'll be looking for the FOL comparisons in it. :lol:
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
(BTW, in just a few more posts, you're going to hit 1,000 posts. Congratulations!)
cfr1970 03-28-2020, 07:56 PM :lol::lol::lol::lol:
(BTW, in just a few more posts, you're going to hit 1,000 posts. Congratulations!)
Oh shoot, I didn't even notice! Wow...I think I need to get out more. :lol:
Now I remember why I tuned out of MOM. There was an episode where Christy dates a fireman I think, and she kept talking about his large manhood, and even with her mother. I just found it tasteless and that's why I stopped watching.
It looked like it was heading towards the gutter level of 2 Broke Girls comedy, and I despised that show. I did a happy dance when I read that trash was cancelled! party:
Lorimar Television 03-28-2020, 07:57 PM Naw, I was thinking
Wendy = Nancy
Christy = Cindy
I can see the Bonnie/Jo comparison as well as the Violet/Nancy comparison, now that you've made it. Roscoe/Molly made me laugh VERY hard! :lol::lol::lol::lol:
Oh well that’s good cuz I didn’t have one for Cindy anyway! I was thinking Regina might be Tootie but... there’s not much reason besides... yeah.
HAHA!!!! Glad you liked it.
Lorimar Television 03-28-2020, 08:00 PM Oh shoot, I didn't even notice! Wow...I think I need to get out more. :lol:
Now I remember why I tuned out of MOM. There was an episode where Christy dates a fireman I think, and she kept talking about his large manhood, and even with her mother. I just found it tasteless and that's why I stopped watching.
It looked like it was heading towards the gutter level of 2 Broke Girls comedy, and I despised that show. I did a happy dance when I read that trash was cancelled! party:
Haha mom is actually a lot less tasteless after s2, it has some moments but not many. You only saw the first season wow! You only saw the original apartment they lived in. You never met Jill or Wendy, especially not Tammy or Adam! You’re in for huge changes.
RetroGuy2000 03-28-2020, 08:01 PM Oh well that’s good cuz I didn’t have one for Cindy anyway! I was thinking Regina might be Tootie but... there’s not much reason besides... yeah.
Yeah. :lol:
HAHA!!!! Glad you liked it.
Sue Ann/Baxter is also VERY funny!
cfr1970 03-28-2020, 08:04 PM Haha mom is actually a lot less tasteless after s2, it has some moments but not many. You only saw the first season wow! You only saw the original apartment they lived in. You never met Jill or Wendy, especially not Tammy or Adam! You’re in for huge changes.
Ok, i'll keep it on my list of complete series to get when it ends.
This is my 999th post....gee, I feel like I should save my 1,000th post for something big!!...Oooh...I know!! New thread coming up!! :lol:
RetroGuy2000 03-28-2020, 08:05 PM Oh shoot, I didn't even notice! Wow...I think I need to get out more. :lol:
Now I remember why I tuned out of MOM. There was an episode where Christy dates a fireman I think, and she kept talking about his large manhood, and even with her mother. I just found it tasteless and that's why I stopped watching.
It looked like it was heading towards the gutter level of 2 Broke Girls comedy, and I despised that show. I did a happy dance when I read that trash was cancelled! party:
I never watched 2BG, and turned it off after one partial episode, for the exact same reason. Trashy.
I think there are only a few episodes of Mom that I'd call trashy (probably different writers). Most are really respectful, and there are many that I'd say will become culturally significant, in the Norman Lear sense.
Lorimar Television 03-28-2020, 08:07 PM I never watched 2BG, and turned it off after one partial episode, for the exact same reason. Trashy.
I think there are only a few episodes of Mom that I'd call trashy (probably different writers). Most are really respectful, and there are many that I'd say will become culturally significant, in the Norman Lear sense.
Yes. The Jody Eps are so rough especially. :(
RetroGuy2000 03-28-2020, 08:09 PM Yes. The Jody Eps are so rough especially. :(
:(:(:(:( OMG, yes.
Lorimar Television 03-28-2020, 08:10 PM :(:(:(:( OMG, yes.
Mom can be so dramatic at times but still keep you laughing. It’s really well done.
valentina warner 03-28-2020, 08:11 PM I have never heard of that sitcom you guys are talking about, but then i don't really watch new stuff on TV (except for 'STRANGER THINGS' cos it reminds me so much of the 80 s)
Lorimar Television 03-28-2020, 08:13 PM I have never heard of that sitcom you guys are talking about, but then i don't really watch new stuff on TV (except for 'STRANGER THINGS' cos it reminds me so much of the 80 s)
I def recommend it!
valentina warner 03-28-2020, 08:26 PM :I def recommend it!
:wave::wave::wave:
Lorimar Television 03-28-2020, 08:46 PM :
:wave::wave::wave:
:so
Christopher 03-28-2020, 09:30 PM The Jody Eps are so rough especially. :(
The story arc in season 2 is also rough. That was very dark for both Bonnie and Christy to go through. Trying not to give spoilers away but the episode where it happens and Christy breaks down crying at the end leaves me in tears. I like that it had a lasting effect on them for the second half of the season and not wrapped up in a few episodes.
For those who haven't seen Mom, it is a great show. My only complaint is that the episodes are short. There are some episodes that barely reach 19 minutes. It needs to be at least 22 minutes IMO.
Lorimar Television 03-28-2020, 11:16 PM The story arc in season 2 is also rough. That was very dark for both Bonnie and Christy to go through. Trying not to give spoilers away but the episode where it happens and Christy breaks down crying at the end leaves me in tears. I like that it had a lasting effect on them for the second half of the season and not wrapped up in a few episodes.
For those who haven't seen Mom, it is a great show. My only complaint is that the episodes are short. There are some episodes that barely reach 19 minutes. It needs to be at least 22 minutes IMO.
Really? I never noticed run times but had no idea some eps were that short! Odd.
WriterChick78 03-29-2020, 02:23 AM Oh shoot, I didn't even notice! Wow...I think I need to get out more. :lol:
Now I remember why I tuned out of MOM. There was an episode where Christy dates a fireman I think, and she kept talking about his large manhood, and even with her mother. I just found it tasteless and that's why I stopped watching.
It looked like it was heading towards the gutter level of 2 Broke Girls comedy, and I despised that show. I did a happy dance when I read that trash was cancelled! party:
Totally agree about 2BG. I hate that show. The characters have NO redeeming qualities.
Christopher 03-29-2020, 07:04 AM Really? I never noticed run times but had no idea some eps were that short! Odd.
Yeah, here's an article (https://www.vox.com/2016/2/21/11082868/mom-review-cbs-jodi) discussing the runtime issue from a few years ago. Sitcoms just keep getting shorter and shorter as the years go by. Pretty soon they'll be able to do two sitcoms in half an hour if they keep cutting it down for commercials ohno:
RetroGuy2000 03-29-2020, 04:24 PM Totally agree about 2BG. I hate that show. The characters have NO redeeming qualities.
I had no idea so many people felt the same way I did. Thanks for adding your voice.
cfr1970 03-29-2020, 05:07 PM I had no idea so many people felt the same way I did. Thanks for adding your voice.
The whole show was nothing but one liners shot back and forth to each other. Nobody talks like that in real life to each other and the content was beyond gutter talk. It was just too tasteless and too graphic to be funny.
In the beginning it showed potential to be a 21st century "Laverne & Shirley" but quickly devolved into x rated potty humor. puke:
I'm glad to see so many others hate it too.
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