WOW! Never seen this one before and yes it's a really good one!! I loved it!

Natalie with the stuffed animals. Just the visual of that was :rofl:

But Jo....Oh Jo Jo Jo!....Bad...very very BAD! I HATED her here. Really HATED how blase she was to Blair about that watch. And it was plain how hurt Blair was by that. I felt SO bad for her. :(

It seemed a bit out of character for Jo at this point in the series. Maybe in the first couple of seasons this story would've worked better. But at this point, Jo knew Blair pretty well underneath the snobby facade she shows everyone.

Of all people, Jo would've known the respect of someone else's property no matter what the cost of it or if it was easily replaceable. She showed ZERO regard for that and it was too much out of character for her.

I'm glad they resolved it in the end, but even the ending was a little too pat for my taste. In real life that friendship would've been forever fractured by Jo's attitude. Blair just let it go too easily.

I guess she's the better friend than Jo. Loved the episode though...like Jo a little less now and love Blair more! :lol:

Natalie's impartiality was perfection. I loved how she handled the whole situation. She was the most adult about it.

Also, in this episode, I seen more than ever how people compare Tootie with Rose Nylund. She was pretty annoying in this one!...Oh shut up Rose! :lol:

Yeah, Jo's out of character. The real Jo was gone this episode, replaced by Pod Person Jo.

Not my favorite episode, because of the Jo weirdness.

Yeah, Jo's out of character. The real Jo was gone this episode, replaced by Pod Person Jo.

Not my favorite episode, because of the Jo weirdness.

I'm glad it's not just me saying WTF at Jo. I never saw her be so mean and wrong as in this one. I did like the episode though, only because we saw how Blair was hurt by the whole thing.

Maybe with all that she's taken on with Shakespeare class, Photo class, Student Council, managing a radio station and pizza making, she's just burnt out and extra crabby LOL.

WOW! Never seen this one before and yes it's a really good one!! I loved it!

It's what?? You WHAT??! :eek:


But Jo....Oh Jo Jo Jo!....Bad...very very BAD! I HATED her here. Really HATED how blase she was to Blair about that watch. And it was plain how hurt Blair was by that. I felt SO bad for her. :(

Okay, [phew], I'm back on board with ya now! :lol: Yes, I too hated how Jo acted in this one---in a way it's like she was doing "reverse snobbery".

See now why we've been deriding this one?? lol


It seemed a bit out of character for Jo at this point in the series.

VERY out of character.


Maybe in the first couple of seasons this story would've worked better. But at this point, Jo knew Blair pretty well underneath the snobby facade she shows everyone.

Oo, that's a great point---this would have made a great season 2 episode.


Of all people, Jo would've known the respect of someone else's property no matter what the cost of it or if it was easily replaceable. She showed ZERO regard for that and it was too much out of character for her.

:yeahthat


Maybe with all that she's taken on with Shakespeare class, Photo class, Student Council, managing a radio station and pizza making, she's just burnt out and extra crabby LOL.

:rofl:


Also, I propose we petition who owns the rights to the show re-title this episode "The Rich Aren't Different (Well, Okay, They Are Because They Have Money, But They Still Have Feelings Too)"

Thoughts? :)

:lol:

I'm glad it's not just me saying WTF at Jo. I never saw her be so mean and wrong as in this one.

Yeah, luckily I think we never see Jo this selfish and rude ever again. Like, this was so over the top that it didn't feel realistic.


I did like the episode though, only because we saw how Blair was hurt by the whole thing.

Yeah, the Blair parts were fine.


Maybe with all that she's taken on with Shakespeare class, Photo class, Student Council, managing a radio station and pizza making, she's just burnt out and extra crabby LOL.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Yeah, luckily I think we never see Jo this selfish and rude ever again. Like, this was so over the top that it didn't feel realistic.



Yeah, the Blair parts were fine.



:lol::lol::lol::lol:

After Nancy M got her raise, the producers were all like. Ok, she got what she wanted, but now we're gonna make the audience HATE her! :lol::lol::lol:

After Nancy M got her raise, the producers were all like. Ok, she got what she wanted, but now we're gonna make the audience HATE her! :lol::lol::lol:

:brent

WOW! Never seen this one before and yes it's a really good one!! I loved it!

Natalie with the stuffed animals. Just the visual of that was :rofl:

But Jo....Oh Jo Jo Jo!....Bad...very very BAD! I HATED her here. Really HATED how blase she was to Blair about that watch. And it was plain how hurt Blair was by that. I felt SO bad for her. :(

It seemed a bit out of character for Jo at this point in the series. Maybe in the first couple of seasons this story would've worked better. But at this point, Jo knew Blair pretty well underneath the snobby facade she shows everyone.

Of all people, Jo would've known the respect of someone else's property no matter what the cost of it or if it was easily replaceable. She showed ZERO regard for that and it was too much out of character for her.

I'm glad they resolved it in the end, but even the ending was a little too pat for my taste. In real life that friendship would've been forever fractured by Jo's attitude. Blair just let it go too easily.

I guess she's the better friend than Jo. Loved the episode though...like Jo a little less now and love Blair more! :lol:

Natalie's impartiality was perfection. I loved how she handled the whole situation. She was the most adult about it.

Also, in this episode, I seen more than ever how people compare Tootie with Rose Nylund. She was pretty annoying in this one!...Oh shut up Rose! :lol:

First, remember Tootie came first :lol: I definitely see the resemblance The Golden Girls stole from The Facts of Life with their characters and format of the show when comparing both.

As for the episode, remember the season 5 finale where Blair broke Jo's engine? Her response was to throw money Jo's way as if that fixes everything. Blair has always been about money not showing any real value to material items. I don't think Jo was being bad, I think she was under the impression Blair was going to do her usual routine of "I'll just buy another one". Blair has acted that way throughout the entire series so I don't think Jo's true intention over the matter was to show disrespect.

I thought the episode was funny. My favorite scene is Blair telling Jo she ruined her watch and Jo replies, "No I didn't. It's a stopwatch. It stopped." :rotflmao:

I definitely see the resemblance The Golden Girls stole from The Facts of Life with their characters and format of the show when comparing both.

Alleging! ;)

What's interesting is that you always see shows compared to GG, not FOL. I guess because GG truly established the "quartet" ensemble, whereas FOL always had 5 or more, and several shows did do the quartet ensemble formula.


As for the episode, remember the season 5 finale where Blair broke Jo's engine? Her response was to throw money Jo's way as if that fixes everything.

Well, it does fix the engine, lol. ;)

First, remember Tootie came first :lol: I definitely see the resemblance The Golden Girls stole from The Facts of Life with their characters and format of the show when comparing both.

As for the episode, remember the season 5 finale where Blair broke Jo's engine? Her response was to throw money Jo's way as if that fixes everything. Blair has always been about money not showing any real value to material items. I don't think Jo was being bad, I think she was under the impression Blair was going to do her usual routine of "I'll just buy another one". Blair has acted that way throughout the entire series so I don't think Jo's true intention over the matter was to show disrespect.

I thought the episode was funny. My favorite scene is Blair telling Jo she ruined her watch and Jo replies, "No I didn't. It's a stopwatch. It stopped." :rotflmao:

Now that's another episode I have to watch again. When it played recently on Antenna TV, I thought it was just your boring clip/flashback episode (I know even you hate them from your GG dislike!)...So I didn't pay attention to it.

If Blair acted blase about breaking Jo's engine and tossed money at her, then that changes a LOT about what happened in TRAD. From that perspective, then Jo's attitude would be more acceptable.

I could now see how she'd be genuinely surprised at Blair being hurt by Jo's carelessness about the broken watch. HOWEVER....Jo did take that watch without even asking. That alone shows disrespect fro Blair.

It doesn't matter if you're rich, poor or in between, friends ASK before borrowing from each other.

Except Natalie...she's exempt from it since she stole all Tootie's savings to invest in Jo's pizza business and Tootie wasn't all that upset....You know, the more I think about it, the more that Rose comparison keeps getting reinforced with me! :lol::lol:

Now that's another episode I have to watch again. When it played recently on Antenna TV, I thought it was just your boring clip/flashback episode (I know even you hate them from your GG dislike!)...So I didn't pay attention to it.

For the record, I love "clip shows" and flashback shows. They're so cozy! :loveya: Who doesn't love memory lane?? (well, not everyone apparently :lol:)


If Blair acted blase about breaking Jo's engine and tossed money at her, then that changes a LOT about what happened in TRAD. From that perspective, then Jo's attitude would be more acceptable.

Well, she didn't "toss money at her". And at least she was trying to "do right" by the engine, lol.


Except Natalie...she's exempt from it since she stole all Tootie's savings to invest in Jo's pizza business and Tootie wasn't all that upset....You know, the more I think about it, the more that Rose comparison keeps getting reinforced with me! :lol::lol:

No, Tootie was definitely perturbed at that---as she should've been!

But, she was also the youngest.

But Tootie is obviously much more "with it" than Rose, lol.

(I know even you hate them from your GG dislike!)

You know me so well :lol: I'm glad The Facts of Life didn't have a lot of those. It is boring watching an episode where it's just clips from previous episodes.

If Blair acted blase about breaking Jo's engine and tossed money at her, then that changes a LOT about what happened in TRAD. From that perspective, then Jo's attitude would be more acceptable.

I could now see how she'd be genuinely surprised at Blair being hurt by Jo's carelessness about the broken watch. HOWEVER....Jo did take that watch without even asking. That alone shows disrespect fro Blair.

It doesn't matter if you're rich, poor or in between, friends ASK before borrowing from each other.

Blair did act casual about breaking Jo's engine. I don't remember what was shown in syndication but how Blair broke it was she stored her belongings under Jo's bed and when she went to pull them out, she knocked over the table that was near Jo's bed causing the engine to break. When Jo was appearing upset, instead of saying sorry, Blair handed her a blank check telling Jo to fill in the amount. Jo reinforced what we all know, Blair is about money and money is the answer to everything.

After Nancy M got her raise, the producers were all like. Ok, she got what she wanted, but now we're gonna make the audience HATE her! :lol::lol::lol:

LOL!!!!!! Lost girls revenge

For the record, I love "clip shows" and flashback shows. They're so cozy! :loveya: Who doesn't love memory lane?? (well, not everyone apparently :lol:)




Well, she didn't "toss money at her". And at least she was trying to "do right" by the engine, lol.




No, Tootie was definitely perturbed at that---as she should've been!

But, she was also the youngest.

But Tootie is obviously much more "with it" than Rose, lol.

Yeah, she was but she STILL allowed Natalie to use her money without asking it back. She showed no backbone and it's exactly how Rose would've acted if Blanche took her money.

Actually no, change that....Rose would've been pissed and got her revenge like she did with Fernando. Tootie was more of a pushover in comparison.

Well, she didn't "toss money at her". And at least she was trying to "do right" by the engine, lol

She told Jo it was ok that the engine broke and that she would buy her a new one by handing her a blank check. That in my definition is tossing money at her. Instead of acting responsible saying she's sorry and asked Jo what she wants, she made the decision for her.

I remember Blair being concerned that she broke Jo's engine, and realizing what an ":eek:" accident it was. That's what gives her credibility for being so upset at Jo for carelessly ruining her dress.

Per the check, it would have been worse if she hadn't offered to pay for it. If I were Jo and Blair gave me a check to buy another duplicate engine that doesn't waste any of my time or money, who would I be to complain? lol

But size does matter. If Blair had smashed Jo's motorcycle and handed her a check, that would seem worse to me than just an engine (and, if she acted blase about that.

I remember Blair being concerned that she broke Jo's engine, and realizing what an ":eek:" accident it was.

It would have been worse if she hadn't offered to pay for it. If I were Jo and Blair gave me a check to buy another duplicate engine that doesn't waste any of my time or money, who would I be to complain? lol


She was concerned about what Jo was going to do to her :rotflmao: Nah, I get that is Blair's way of solving things. When comparing these two situations though, how was Jo to know all of a sudden Blair would care about a material item? Blair has always been about money. She's never shown concern over her belongings except her clothes.

She was concerned about what Jo was going to do to her :rotflmao:

:lol:

Although, I will say that I would have no qualms over this if it had been a season 2 episode, back before they really knew each other well.

WOW! Never seen this one before and yes it's a really good one!! I loved it!

Natalie with the stuffed animals. Just the visual of that was :rofl:

But Jo....Oh Jo Jo Jo!....Bad...very very BAD! I HATED her here. Really HATED how blase she was to Blair about that watch. And it was plain how hurt Blair was by that. I felt SO bad for her. :(

It seemed a bit out of character for Jo at this point in the series. Maybe in the first couple of seasons this story would've worked better. But at this point, Jo knew Blair pretty well underneath the snobby facade she shows everyone.

Of all people, Jo would've known the respect of someone else's property no matter what the cost of it or if it was easily replaceable. She showed ZERO regard for that and it was too much out of character for her.

I'm glad they resolved it in the end, but even the ending was a little too pat for my taste. In real life that friendship would've been forever fractured by Jo's attitude. Blair just let it go too easily.

I guess she's the better friend than Jo. Loved the episode though...like Jo a little less now and love Blair more! :lol:

Natalie's impartiality was perfection. I loved how she handled the whole situation. She was the most adult about it.

Also, in this episode, I seen more than ever how people compare Tootie with Rose Nylund. She was pretty annoying in this one!...Oh shut up Rose! :lol:




You have spoken from my heart once again cfr1970!

JO went way too far in this episode, and i HATE it when someone is nasty or cruel to BLAIR!

that goes for TOOTIE too: she really annoyed me in this episode, when she says to JO "I'll handle BLAIR, leave it to me" (she made her sound like the bad guy man!)

And yes, NAT handled the situation with maturity and dignity: after all, we all know she has a 'slightly' preference for JO (probably cos they've very similar) but still, she was very supportive and loyal to both her friends!

TOOTIE, on the other hand normally has a 'preference' towards BLAIR than JO (probably cos she's similar to the blond princess and scared of the Bronx girl ha ha ha!)

That BLAIR is a better friend than JO doesn't surprised me at all: she has always shown how much she cares about the 'Bronx girl', and has seek for her advice more than i can remember....

PS: i'm glad to read your love for BLAIR is getting stronger (that girl has a heart of gold!) ;););)

You have spoken from my heart once again cfr1970!

JO went way too far in this episode, and i HATE it when someone is nasty or cruel to BLAIR!

that goes for TOOTIE too: she really annoyed me in this episode, when she says to JO "I'll handle BLAIR, leave it to me" (she made her sound like the bad guy man!)

And yes, NAT handled the situation with maturity and dignity: after all, we all know she has a 'slightly' preference for JO (probably cos they've very similar) but still, she was very supportive and loyal to both her friends!

TOOTIE, on the other hand normally has a 'preference' towards BLAIR than JO (probably cos she's similar to the blond princess and scared of the Bronx girl ha ha ha!)

That BLAIR is a better friend than JO doesn't surprised me at all: she has always shown how much she cares about the 'Bronx girl', and has seek for her advice more than i can remember....

PS: i'm glad to read your love for BLAIR is getting stronger (that girl has a heart of gold!) ;););)

I didn't really think much about it but you're right. Tootie took Jo's side to the point of defending her in court over Blair! At least Natalie stayed impartial and wanted none of it. I liked that about her and she went up a couple of notches with me. And Mindy Cohn's acting has improved a lot from the previous seasons too.

Blair was probably also hurt that Tootie chose Jo's side so quickly when she should've seen how Jo's insensitive reaction obviously hurt Blair. She didn't seem very sympathetic to her at all. Bad Tootie! :mad:

You know me so well :lol: I'm glad The Facts of Life didn't have a lot of those. It is boring watching an episode where it's just clips from previous episodes.



Blair did act casual about breaking Jo's engine. I don't remember what was shown in syndication but how Blair broke it was she stored her belongings under Jo's bed and when she went to pull them out, she knocked over the table that was near Jo's bed causing the engine to break. When Jo was appearing upset, instead of saying sorry, Blair handed her a blank check telling Jo to fill in the amount. Jo reinforced what we all know, Blair is about money and money is the answer to everything.


Now you're really being unfair towards BLAIR: she was definitely 'UPSET' about breaking JO's engine (she even began to whimper when TOOTIE told her JO was back) so much that she even ignored the dress MRS G brought her lol!

BLAIR said "Who cares about the dress!" And if that's not showing concern about JO's belongings, then i don't know....

You obviously only see 'faults' in BLAIR and JO is Miss 'perfect' or?:eek:

PS: about the blank check, i thought that was quite classy of BLAIR, she says "it was my fault so i will pay for my mistake", but JO always take it the wrong way when money is involved!

Now you're really being unfair towards BLAIR: she was definitely 'UPSET' about breaking JO's engine (she even began to whimper when TOOTIE told her JO was back) so much that she even ignored the dress MRS G brought her lol!

BLAIR said "Who cares about the dress!" And if that's not showing concern about JO's belongings, then i don't know....

You obviously only see 'faults' in BLAIR and JO is Miss 'perfect' or?:eek:

PS: about the blank check, i thought that was quite classy of BLAIR, she says "it was my fault so i will pay for my mistake", but JO always take it the wrong way when money is involved!

Blair whimpered because they were discussing how hot headed Jo is and was worried Jo would go postal on her. Her saying who cares about the dress was not about Jo's feelings, it was about Jo's reaction. Blair is one of my favorite characters as well, but you can't deny her first choice for every problem was using money to make it go away. Also Blair never said that line. Her quote was, "it's ok. We'll simply buy you a new engine" when she saw Jo was upset. She then gets her check book and hands Jo a blank check saying to fill in the amount. Natalie then says "bad move Blair". That kind of response is buying your way out of a problem you created instead of trying to resolve it like friends.

Blair whimpered because they were discussing how hot headed Jo is and was worried Jo would go postal on her. Her saying who cares about the dress was not about Jo's feelings, it was about Jo's reaction. Blair is one of my favorite characters as well, but you can't deny her first choice for every problem was using money to make it go away. Also Blair never said that line. Her quote was, "it's ok. We'll simply buy you a new engine" when she saw Jo was upset. She then gets her check book and hands Jo a blank check saying to fill in the amount. Natalie then says "bad move Blair". That kind of response is buying your way out of a problem you created instead of trying to resolve it like friends.


Yes, i see your point of view now: BLAIR does tend to ease herself out of a situation by solving anything with money, very true....

NAT is very perceptive about it, and that's why i love her character too: she always tries to find a way to help her two older friends, and the prove for it is that every time JO and BLAIR have an argument, she steps in the middle to mend it!

But i still believe MONICA and DAVID have a lot to answer for BLAIR's behaviour: their only answer has always been to shove her with money (like on the episode 'Daddy's girl' when he practically throws money at her) and don't get me wrong cos i like them too and they mean well, but as parental figure they have less to offer.

I guess not everyone can be MRS G ha ha ha!:happyface:happyface:happyface

But i still believe MONICA and DAVID have a lot to answer for BLAIR's behaviour: their only answer has always been to shove her with money (like on the episode 'Daddy's girl' when he practically throws money at her) and don't get me wrong cos i like them too and they mean well, but as parental figure they have less to offer.



Very true. Blair says a lot that her dad will pay for something. It's obvious she was grown up watching him use money to get what he wanted. Monica had a lot of marriages and boyfriends. Blair took that trait from her mom as she entered the dating field. She didn't have actual role models until Mrs. Garrett came along.

Monica had a lot of marriages and boyfriends.

Well, we know she had 3 marriages, but we don't know about boyfriends. We just know she advised Blair to get out there by "playing the field".

She doesn't look the type to have "boyfriends". She's so grown up and sophisticated and elegant it's hard to picture her having a "boyfriend". :lol:

She didn't have actual role models until Mrs. Garrett came along.

Though they were in her life they weren't the best role models, sure.

Well, we know she had 3 marriages, but we don't know about boyfriends. We just know she advised Blair to get out there by "playing the field".

She doesn't look the type to have "boyfriends". She's so grown up and sophisticated and elegant it's hard to picture her having a "boyfriend". :lol:


Well, how, then, shall we refer to Mr. Justin Branch, Nina's father?

Well, how, then, shall we refer to Mr. Justin Branch, Nina's father?

A sinful flirtation! :lol:

(and Prototype Monica is easier to picture having boyfriends than Official Monica)

Very true. Blair says a lot that her dad will pay for something. It's obvious she was grown up watching him use money to get what he wanted. Monica had a lot of marriages and boyfriends. Blair took that trait from her mom as she entered the dating field. She didn't have actual role models until Mrs. Garrett came along.


Well saidChristopher!:cool:

BLAIR didn't have any role model (instead she got shipped to boarding schools at an early age) and when MRS G came along she was already 15.

Actually, on the episode 'Gamma gamma' from season 5 (when MRS G and BLAIR have their first fight) MRS G even tells TOOTIE that she 'helped' raise BLAIR, which implicates that she was an important mother figure to the 'spoiled rich girl'.;)

PS: all MONICA ever was to BLAIR, was a 'play pal' telling her own daughter how to seduce men lol!:crazy:

^---That's not fair to Monica. She was more than that.

And her parents were role models because they were in her life. You can say they weren't good role models if you want to, but they were what she knew growing up, so they were what role models she knew until Mrs. Garrett came along.

^---That's not fair to Monica. She was more than that.

And her parents were role models because they were in her life. You can say they weren't good role models if you want to, but they were what she knew growing up, so they were what role models she knew until Mrs. Garrett came along.


Okay maybe i was too harsh and i do like MONICA, but i see her more as an 'aunt' to BLAIR than a mother, sorry!:lol::lol::lol:

On another note, i like DAVID too: he's warm and you can see he truly worship his daughter (you see that on the later series) and he is soo HANDSOME too!;););)

And yes, i believe MRS G had a great influence in BLAIR's life when she finally came along.....:wave::wave::wave: