ok i know most fans don't like the character of andy moffett but i actually really liked him and had a huge crush on him when i watched reruns of fol on nick at nite when i was 13 im 32 now almost 33 just wanted to know if any other fans liked andy he doesn't seem to get much love here.

ok i know most fans don't like the character of andy moffett but i actually really liked him and had a huge crush on him when i watched reruns of fol on nick at nite when i was 13 im 32 now almost 33 just wanted to know if any other fans liked andy he doesn't seem to get much love here.


Nothing personal with ANDY, but i think the fact that he arrived too 'late' to the show didn't help: by then, everyone was used to having the core of 4 living with their beloved red haired MRS G, so when that 11 year old boy appears 'out of the blues' he didn't seem to fit in with them. He was kind of an intruder to most FOL fan.....:p:p:p

I don't remember too much about him from the original run but season 6 started on Antenna TV so he should be coming up soon. I remember not caring for the character that much back then, but I didn't despise him like I did Beverly Ann.

As valentina says, he didn't quite fit in with them. A little boy with all those grown girls was weird. My opinion may change watching now so I may come back here to update. And if I bash poor little Andy or make fun of him, it's only for the character and not the actor.

He's Patty Duke's son and I love her so i'll never bash her kid. Only his character.

I also love Patty Duke, so I have a bit of a soft spot for him. He also wrote the most amazing eulogy for Charlotte.

I never felt like he fit well with the rest of the cast. What woman in her 20s wants to hang out with a 12-year-old? It just made no sense.

i love patty duke too i have her show on dvd as well and yes it's probably because i had a huge crush on mackenzie astin when i watched the reruns so that 's probably part of it but i also really liked him even if he was a pre-teen hanging around grown women and a grown man.

no problem to each their own i love patty duke too !

I like Andy, he's funny and I think he is a great addition

it's so great to find a fellow andy fan !

I also love Patty Duke, so I have a bit of a soft spot for him. He also wrote the most amazing eulogy for Charlotte.

I never felt like he fit well with the rest of the cast. What woman in her 20s wants to hang out with a 12-year-old? It just made no sense.

It got weird when the same girls still hung out with their younger classmates and worked together years after they graduated high school with their housemother. When I graduated high school (the same year Blair and Jo did), I waived by to my high school and moved onto college/university.

It got weird when the same girls still hung out with their younger classmates and worked together years after they graduated high school with their housemother. When I graduated high school (the same year Blair and Jo did), I waived by to my high school and moved onto college/university.

Normally yes, i'd say it's weird. But these people were like family to each other by the point of Edna's Edibles and very good friends. So I don't think it was weird they were all still together. It was a family.

Now, by the end of the series it was getting a little weird because they all were out of college and it was time to get out into the world and expand their horizons.

Natalie and Tootie did try and get an apartment at one point didn't they? And then there was Natalie moving down to the city in what looked like a spin off attempt.

Normally yes, i'd say it's weird. But these people were like family to each other by the point of Edna's Edibles and very good friends. So I don't think it was weird they were all still together. It was a family.

Now, by the end of the series it was getting a little weird because they all were out of college and it was time to get out into the world and expand their horizons.

Natalie and Tootie did try and get an apartment at one point didn't they? And then there was Natalie moving down to the city in what looked like a spin off attempt.

The last season had all the girls going in their own directions.

I also love Patty Duke, so I have a bit of a soft spot for him. He also wrote the most amazing eulogy for Charlotte.

I never felt like he fit well with the rest of the cast. What woman in her 20s wants to hang out with a 12-year-old? It just made no sense.


TOOTIE was still a teenager when ANDY first appeared (remember he had a crush on her?)
And i hardly call someone in their 20 s a grown person: to me you have to be almost 30 years old to be considered fully adult (most 20 year old act like teens, studying and throwing parties)....:wave:

Normally yes, i'd say it's weird. But these people were like family to each other by the point of Edna's Edibles and very good friends. So I don't think it was weird they were all still together. It was a family.

Now, by the end of the series it was getting a little weird because they all were out of college and it was time to get out into the world and expand their horizons.

Natalie and Tootie did try and get an apartment at one point didn't they? And then there was Natalie moving down to the city in what looked like a spin off attempt.


Exactly my point cfr1970: The core of 4 and MRS G had grown into a real family after almost 7 years together! (well beautifully said):happyface

Exactly my point cfr1970: The core of 4 and MRS G had grown into a real family after almost 7 years together! (well beautifully said):happyface

It may seem to some that them staying together was convoluted and unrealistic, but it did make sense the way they did it.

The first time was with Edna Edibles and Blair & Jo were in the dorms originally. It was only when Jo lost her scholorship (too lazy to spellcheck it lol) did Mrs. G let her stay there.

Then Nat & Tootie wanted in because they were younger and didn't want the group to separate. So it make sense. Then Blair moved in...I skipped that episode so please tell me how she left the dorms and wound up at the house?! Did she have a falling out with Boots?

And then when Jo & Blair graduated college, it was already home for them and they were working the Over our Heads store. (Did they own it at that point with Mrs. G gone?!)

Anyway, they did work it so them sticking together was believable and not a stretch of the imagination like keeping Gilligan and the gang on that damn island for 15 freaking years. Now THAT was convoluted writing! :lol:

It may seem to some that them staying together was convoluted and unrealistic, but it did make sense the way they did it.

The first time was with Edna Edibles and Blair & Jo were in the dorms originally. It was only when Jo lost her scholorship (too lazy to spellcheck it lol) did Mrs. G let her stay there.

Then Nat & Tootie wanted in because they were younger and didn't want the group to separate. So it make sense. Then Blair moved in...I skipped that episode so please tell me how she left the dorms and wound up at the house?! Did she have a falling out with Boots?

And then when Jo & Blair graduated college, it was already home for them and they were working the Over our Heads store. (Did they own it at that point with Mrs. G gone?!)





Anyway, they did work it so them sticking together was believable and not a stretch of the imagination like keeping Gilligan and the gang on that damn island for 15 freaking years. Now THAT was convoluted writing! :lol:


The main reason BLAIR decides to move in at 'EDNA's EDIBLES' is more than obvious: she was missing terribly her 'Peekskill family' (not having any brothers or sisters or even parents around in her early childhood must have been tough), MRS G was a mother to her and the 3 other girls soul sister.
She realizes soon enough, that 'BOOTSIE' is a fake and shallow person, and that the only people that matter are the ones she spent 7 years with, her 'Peekskill' family....:talk:

He was on my wall in the 80s. He was in the teen magazines I read back then. I was about 9 or 10 at that point.

TOOTIE was still a teenager when ANDY first appeared (remember he had a crush on her?)
And i hardly call someone in their 20 s a grown person: to me you have to be almost 30 years old to be considered fully adult (most 20 year old act like teens, studying and throwing parties)....:wave:

To be fair, that all depends on the person. I left home at 19 and moved 2000 miles away. Most introverts like me were very responsible in their 20s.

The Core Four were actually really good kids, too. They were against smoking, pot, only drank underage twice, and were all virgins into college. However, I do feel that they can be looked at as being immature for needing a housemother into their mid-twenties. Even when Mrs. G left, why did they need Beverly Ann? At 25, I didn't need a mother - I was a mother.

You saw a change in the show in Season 1 which was open about sexuality (sometimes to the extreme) to having episodes to show where they go upset over a beefcake calendar and that episode of the male statue someone left behind. Blair also changed from being the loose girl on campus to being very conservative.

You saw a change in the show in Season 1 which was open about sexuality (sometimes to the extreme) to having episodes to show where they go upset over a beefcake calendar and that episode of the male statue someone left behind. Blair also changed from being the loose girl on campus to being very conservative.

I think that's one thing the show could've used---a loose girl to counter all the uptight virgins in that house. I think it would've balanced things out a bit more and just think of all the jokes they could've used with a girl like that thrown into the mix!

When Jo came on the scene it was the perfect opportunity to make her the "slut", but even she had that chastity belt firmly locked around her waist. And being a motorcycle riding, street smart, tough girl from the Bronx, she would've been very experienced in that area. I guess writers were still too afraid to go there with teen characters.

I think that's one thing the show could've used---a loose girl to counter all the uptight virgins in that house. I think it would've balanced things out a bit more and just think of all the jokes they could've used with a girl like that thrown into the mix!

When Jo came on the scene it was the perfect opportunity to make her the "slut", but even she had that chastity belt firmly locked around her waist. And being a motorcycle riding, street smart, tough girl from the Bronx, she would've been very experienced in that area. I guess writers were still too afraid to go there with teen characters.

Season 1 had that. Sue Ann was the wholesome girl. Blair wanted to experiment. Molly wanted to teach her man a few new things in bed (disturbing coming from a 12 year old). Jo was even more uptight than Blair when Blair's boyfriend turned out to be a male stripper. In real life, Mindy was the wild one. Most of the girls are very religious. Felice is Jewish (as is Mindy). Molly seems to have no religion.

Season 1 had that. Sue Ann was the wholesome girl. Blair wanted to experiment. Molly wanted to teach her man a few new things in bed (disturbing coming from a 12 year old). Jo was even more uptight than Blair when Blair's boyfriend turned out to be a male stripper. In real life, Mindy was the wild one. Most of the girls are very religious. Felice is Jewish (as is Mindy). Molly seems to have no religion.

I need to pay more attention to season 1 when it comes back around on Antenna TV. What you're saying implies Molly was already doing things in bed with her boyfriend?! Yikes.

Yeah, Jo's reaction to the stripper was way overboard. I still don't get that, especially since she was snapping pics while watching them gyrate on stage.

I need to pay more attention to season 1 when it comes back around on Antenna TV. What you're saying implies Molly was already doing things in bed with her boyfriend?! Yikes.

Yeah, Jo's reaction to the stripper was way overboard. I still don't get that, especially since she was snapping pics while watching them gyrate on stage.

Molly never had a boyfriend. She said that she didn't want a system where a man taught her that facts of life, but that she would like to teach him a thing or two. This was the Facts of Love episode.

I need to pay more attention to season 1 when it comes back around on Antenna TV. What you're saying implies Molly was already doing things in bed with her boyfriend?! Yikes.

Yeah, Jo's reaction to the stripper was way overboard. I still don't get that, especially since she was snapping pics while watching them gyrate on stage.

The Facts of Love episode allegedly had some very controversial lines cut out in later broadcasts and on the DVD. While I saw the original airing of the episode on NBC in 1980, I can't remember these lines or every line of every show.
https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=7056

The Facts of Love episode allegedly had some very controversial lines cut out in later broadcasts and on the DVD. While I saw the original airing of the episode on NBC in 1980, I can't remember these lines or every line of every show.
https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=7056

I can't believe that scene! Wow, I can't imagine the girls talking like that! And since it's not on the dvd I wonder how much of that was all in that posters head. I watched the original airing in 1980 but I was only 10 so there's no way to recall if that's what aired. Guess we'll never know. :(

This line made me LOL though---

blair: But the older you are the less fun it is! :lol::lol::lol:

I can't believe that scene! Wow, I can't imagine the girls talking like that! And since it's not on the dvd I wonder how much of that was all in that posters head. I watched the original airing in 1980 but I was only 10 so there's no way to recall if that's what aired. Guess we'll never know. :(

This line made me LOL though---

blair: But the older you are the less fun it is! :lol::lol::lol:


They talk with that. Did you hear what Mindy Cohn said when she talked about how she lost her virginity and stuff she did growing up?

I liked Andy actually. He could be funny and added some spice to later episodes. He's my favorite of the added on characters and the least annoying

To be fair, that all depends on the person. I left home at 19 and moved 2000 miles away. Most introverts like me were very responsible in their 20s.

The Core Four were actually really good kids, too. They were against smoking, pot, only drank underage twice, and were all virgins into college. However, I do feel that they can be looked at as being immature for needing a housemother into their mid-twenties. Even when Mrs. G left, why did they need Beverly Ann? At 25, I didn't need a mother - I was a mother.


Again, they were hardly in their mid twenties: TOOTIE was only 18 when MRS G left, NAT 19 and JO/ BLAIR 22 years old and to me that's pretty young and hardly mature at all (most people in their 30 s and above still live at their parents and need guidance from them):talk:

Again, they were hardly in their mid twenties: TOOTIE was only 18 when MRS G left, NAT 19 and JO/ BLAIR 22 years old and to me that's pretty young and hardly mature at all (most people in their 30 s and above still live at their parents and need guidance from them):talk:

But they had Beverly Ann after Mrs. G for another 2 years, so Jo/Blair were into their mid 20's by series end, each being 24. All of them were over 20 by that point and it was time for them to get on with their lives already and leave that damn nest. :lol::lol:

most people in their 30 s and above still live at their parents and need guidance from them

Maybe this is a UK/US difference, Valentina, but here in the US, very few people lived with their parents in their 30s, at least in the 1980s: you moved into some horrible, roach-infested apartment so you could be your own boss and follow your own rules. I started college at age 19, and moved out at age 20.

Maybe this is a UK/US difference, Valentina, but here in the US, very few people lived with their parents in their 30s, at least in the 1980s: you moved into some horrible, roach-infested apartment so you could be your own boss and follow your own rules. I started college at age 19, and moved out at age 20.

That was me lol. I had a bug infested one room basement apartment with a shared bathroom, tiny floor fridge and one burner to cook my mac & cheese on but I was living on my own and loved every minute of it.

That was me lol. I had a bug infested one room basement apartment with a shared bathroom, tiny floor fridge and one burner to cook my mac & cheese on but I was living on my own and loved every minute of it.

I was living in Joe's Apartment (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw_zUUE4BE0)! (But my houseguests were less talented than Joe's). My fridge didn't work correctly, and my milk spoiled every week.

I was living in Joe's Apartment (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw_zUUE4BE0)! (But my houseguests were less talented than Joe's). My fridge didn't work correctly, and my milk spoiled every week.

I never saw that movie, but now I wanna watch it. It makes my basement room look like a palace...I had no roaches though, just your friendly spiders and centipedes. And to make matters worse, I slept on the floor on one of those flip open futon things that were popular in the early 90's. I think they were made of foam and came in different colors.

I live in FL now where the roaches actually FLY! :eek:

I never saw that movie, but now I wanna watch it. It makes my basement room look like a palace...I had no roaches though, just your friendly spiders and centipedes. And to make matters worse, I slept on the floor on one of those flip open futon things that were popular in the early 90's. I think they were made of foam and came in different colors.

Oh yeah, those futons! Whatever happened to those things?


I live in FL now where the roaches actually FLY! :eek:

Yeah, well that is nothing compared to scorpions, where I now live...

Maybe this is a UK/US difference, Valentina, but here in the US, very few people lived with their parents in their 30s, at least in the 1980s: you moved into some horrible, roach-infested apartment so you could be your own boss and follow your own rules. I started college at age 19, and moved out at age 20.


Yes, i guess you're right and sometimes i forget that was in the 80 s, where things were a lot easier back then: people grew up a lot quicker and had their own place, whereas nowadays (and i 'm not talking about myself) people tend to stay at home longer, and partly because they're out of jobs 'temporarily'. Of course most students live at dorms in the UK as well, but if you're not a student and unemployed, then you go back to your parents. I have seen that happening to some of my friends who are in their mid thirties lol!

Does that make sense now?:wave::wave::wave:

PS: i moved out of the house and out of the country when i was 22.

Yes, i guess you're right and sometimes i forget that was in the 80 s, where things were a lot easier back then: people grew up a lot quicker and had their own place, whereas nowadays (and i 'm not talking about myself) people tend to stay at home longer, and partly because they're out of jobs 'temporarily'. Of course most students live at dorms in the UK as well, but if you're not a student and unemployed, then you go back to your parents. I have seen that happening to some of my friends who are in their mid thirties lol!


Oh, definitely: times have changed, for sure!


PS: i moved out of the house and out of the country when i was 22.

Oh my goodness! Where did you move to, at age 22? That sounds both thrilling and crazy!

Oh yeah, those futons! Whatever happened to those things?



Yeah, well that is nothing compared to scorpions, where I now live...

I'll take any bugs over scorpions. Just thinking of them makes me queasy. They look like bugs from hell. :eek:

Ah! Someone remembers those things. I tell people and they're like WTH are you talking about? :lol: I found a pic. I had a black on with different color dots on it.

Oh, definitely: times have changed, for sure!



Oh my goodness! Where did you move to, at age 22? That sounds both thrilling and crazy!

I moved to the UK lol!:lol::lol::lol:

I'll take any bugs over scorpions. Just thinking of them makes me queasy. They look like bugs from hell. :eek:

Yes. Yes they are.


Ah! Someone remembers those things. I tell people and they're like WTH are you talking about? :lol: I found a pic. I had a black on with different color dots on it.

I had two matching blue ones. They were great for camping and road trips.

I moved to the UK lol!:lol::lol::lol:

Oh, I thought you were from the UK. All this time, I was picturing a British accent when I read your posts. :lol:

Oh, I thought you were from the UK. All this time, I was picturing a British accent when I read your posts. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Yes, i guess you're right and sometimes i forget that was in the 80 s, where things were a lot easier back then: people grew up a lot quicker and had their own place, whereas nowadays (and i 'm not talking about myself) people tend to stay at home longer, and partly because they're out of jobs 'temporarily'. Of course most students live at dorms in the UK as well, but if you're not a student and unemployed, then you go back to your parents. I have seen that happening to some of my friends who are in their mid thirties lol!

Does that make sense now?:wave::wave::wave:

PS: i moved out of the house and out of the country when i was 22.

No worries, babe! I get it now. I'm glad you get our points, too! It's just weird to see that they need a hands-on parent at that age, when I was a parent at that age. I actually would have been a mom at 21, but I lost my first baby. I was a mom at 25.

I live in FL now where the roaches actually FLY! :eek:

Lol, we have them in New Orleans, too!

No worries, babe! I get it now. I'm glad you get our points, too! It's just weird to see that they need a hands-on parent at that age, when I was a parent at that age. I actually would have been a mom at 21, but I lost my first baby. I was a mom at 25.


Hi WriterChick78!

I don't think the girls were needing any 'parental guidance': they probably introduced BEVERLY ANN to the show for ANDY, who was in a desperate need for a 'mother' (after being shifted so many times to different foster homes).:wave:

And i'm sorry to hear you lost your first baby at such a young age:(

Lol, we have them in New Orleans, too!


I have witness plenty of time flying cockroaches too: i lived in hot countries before, and those insects terrified the hell out of me!:eek::eek::eek:

ok i know most fans don't like the character of andy moffett but i actually really liked him and had a huge crush on him when i watched reruns of fol on nick at nite when i was 13 im 32 now almost 33 just wanted to know if any other fans liked andy he doesn't seem to get much love here.

I liked Andy. I thought he was a good addition to the show.

The main reason BLAIR decides to move in at 'EDNA's EDIBLES' is more than obvious: she was missing terribly her 'Peekskill family' (not having any brothers or sisters or even parents around in her early childhood must have been tough)

I think it's tough not to have parents around in early childhood. Plenty of people are just fine without siblings.