I read a couple people like this one a lot? I found it strange, the whole episode filmed in the car gave it a slight claustrophobic feel. I prefer everyone running around on the set.

I liked their singing at the end. That was a lot of fun to watch. I vaguely remember seeing this one as a kid. I see it aired on Halloween of '84. My trick or treating days were behind me and I was still too young to party so i'm sure I was home watching it. :lol:

When Tootie swings open the car door to rush to the phone, that whole tray of sodas and food would've splashed to the ground! Yet when she comes back they're all still perfectly standing on the tray!

And then when Jo burns rubber out of the parking lot, they surely would've scattered all over the ground, yet we see a wide shot and the parking apace is perfectly clean. They must've glued those drinks to the tray. :lol::lol:

It was an ok episode made better with the singing scene at the end. And yes, we still did cruising with our cars in the 80's. I grew up in the Bronx like Jo and can attest that we did that into the late 80's. Good times they were!!

With gas prices the way they are today, I doubt the kids do it anymore.

The ep. before it was Tootie breaking up with Jeff. WTH was she doing dating someone in college?! I thought they both were in Eastland together!! Yikes!

I read a couple people like this one a lot? I found it strange, the whole episode filmed in the car gave it a slight claustrophobic feel. I prefer everyone running around on the set.

:lol:

Boy, would you love "The Girls' School"! :lol: :crazy:


I liked their singing at the end. That was a lot of fun to watch. I vaguely remember seeing this one as a kid. I see it aired on Halloween of '84. My trick or treating days were behind me and I was still too young to party so i'm sure I was home watching it. :lol:

:lol:

And back when Halloween was after the time change, so trick-or-treating was in the dark! (oh, those good ol' days---"Facts" on the air, and trick-or-treating at night!)


When Tootie swings open the car door to rush to the phone, that whole tray of sodas and food would've splashed to the ground! Yet when she comes back they're all still perfectly standing on the tray!

:lol:


And then when Jo burns rubber out of the parking lot, they surely would've scattered all over the ground, yet we see a wide shot and the parking apace is perfectly clean. They must've glued those drinks to the tray. :lol::lol:

:rofl:


I grew up in the Bronx like Jo and can attest that we did that into the late 80's. Good times they were!!

You did?? Cool! I didn't know you could relate to a geographical aspect of the show so well!


With gas prices the way they are today, I doubt the kids do it anymore.

You mean what with Smartphones being around today! lol


The ep. before it was Tootie breaking up with Jeff. WTH was she doing dating someone in college?! I thought they both were in Eastland together!! Yikes!

Really? I thought it was mentioned somewhere that he was in college? Maybe this was it, lol.

:lol:

Boy, would you love "The Girls' School"! :lol: :crazy:


What's "The Girls' School"?!

:lol:

A[/QUOTE]nd back when Halloween was after the time change, so trick-or-treating was in the dark! (oh, those good ol' days---"Facts" on the air, and trick-or-treating at night!)[/QUOTE]

I forgot about that! Yes! We used to move the clocks back before Halloween making it dark earlier.




:lol:




:rofl:




[/QUOTE]You did?? Cool! I didn't know you could relate to a geographical aspect of the show so well![/QUOTE]

Come to think of it, i've been to pretty much all the places the girls went in that show. Bronx, Peekskill, Manhattan...It is probably a reason I relate so much to it.




[/QUOTE]You mean what with Smartphones being around today! [/QUOTE]

I'm SO grateful we didn't have those damn things in the 80's and 90's!!






[/QUOTE]Really? I thought it was mentioned somewhere that he was in college? Maybe this was it, lol.[/QUOTE]

I always assumed Tootie's guy went to school with her. Maybe he did and this was his first year off to college? The breakup was logical imo. No way a guy like that is going to sit around in college waiting on his 15 year old girl to graduate HS. :lol::lol:


I THINK I learned to multi-quote finally?....NOPE! Just previewed and it's still a damn mess...so I just bolded all my replies. Back to copy/paste I guess. Oh well. :wallbang

I THINK I learned to multi-quote finally?....NOPE! Just previewed and it's still a damn mess...so I just bolded all my replies. Back to copy/paste I guess. Oh well. :wallbang

:lol:

You'll get there!

I will say though, one way I quote in e-mails is to italicize the part I'm quoting, and "regular text" my reply. If you might try that, it may be a little more "friendly" to read without everything being bolded, lol. :)

But then, I'd still clean up all the [I] tags or [B] tags (like all the [B] ones in this reply), so I dunno, lol.


What's "The Girls' School"?! :lol:

:lol: It's the first time we see Eastland! It's the season 2 finale of "Diff'rent Strokes"! :tv:



I forgot about that! Yes! We used to move the clocks back before Halloween making it dark earlier.

Right?? I've been lamenting the change ever since it happened! I miss early-dark Halloween! :(


Come to think of it, i've been to pretty much all the places the girls went in that show. Bronx, Peekskill, Manhattan...It is probably a reason I relate so much to it.

Manhattan?? The one the Muppets took '84?? :lol: Oh, awesome! :D :woohoo:



I'm SO grateful we didn't have those damn things in the 80's and 90's!!

Me tooooooo!!

What's "The Girls' School"?!

:lol:


'The girl's school' is the last episode from DS you're waiting to buy to watch lol!:wave:

And back when Halloween was after the time change, so trick-or-treating was in the dark! (oh, those good ol' days---"Facts" on the air, and trick-or-treating at night!)[/QUOTE]

I forgot about that! Yes! We used to move the clocks back before Halloween making it dark earlier.




:lol:




:rofl:




[/QUOTE]You did?? Cool! I didn't know you could relate to a geographical aspect of the show so well![/QUOTE]

Come to think of it, i've been to pretty much all the places the girls went in that show. Bronx, Peekskill, Manhattan...It is probably a reason I relate so much to it.




[/QUOTE]You mean what with Smartphones being around today! [/QUOTE]

I'm SO grateful we didn't have those damn things in the 80's and 90's!!






[/QUOTE]Really? I thought it was mentioned somewhere that he was in college? Maybe this was it, lol.[/QUOTE]

I always assumed Tootie's guy went to school with her. Maybe he did and this was his first year off to college? The breakup was logical imo. No way a guy like that is going to sit around in college waiting on his 15 year old girl to graduate HS. :lol::lol:


I THINK I learned to multi-quote finally?....NOPE! Just previewed and it's still a damn mess...so I just bolded all my replies. Back to copy/paste I guess. Oh well. :wallbang[/QUOTE]

CFR, since you're going to purchase the FOL DVDs, there definitely two episodes you should see. One is "The Girls' School", which is an episode of Diff'rent Strokes that served as the backdoor pilot. It is not included on the complete FOL DVDs, nor on the season releases. But it's definitely worth seeing. Here it is on Daily Motion (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x536z0v) (sorry no CC, but there might be CC on the first season DS DVD).

The other episode is "The Slumber Party", DS Season 2.

CFR, since you're going to purchase the FOL DVDs, there definitely two episodes you should see. One is "The Girls' School", which is an episode of Diff'rent Strokes that served as the backdoor pilot. It is not included on the complete FOL DVDs, nor on the season releases. But it's definitely worth seeing. Here it is on Daily Motion (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x536z0v) (sorry no CC, but there might be CC on the first season DS DVD).

The other episode is "The Slumber Party", DS Season 2.

Oh! So it's NOT on the complete FOL series dvd set? Thanks for letting me know. I'm definitely going to get the 1st season of DS just for the "Girl's School" episode. I'll maybe have to get the next season too for "Slumber Party".

I mentioned in another thread earlier I can get season 1 DS for just $7 bucks used incl shipping on Amazon. Valentina here mentioned how good that "Girls School" episode is so for that price, it's well worth getting.

CFR, since you're going to purchase the FOL DVDs, there definitely two episodes you should see. One is "The Girls' School", which is an episode of Diff'rent Strokes that served as the backdoor pilot. It is not included on the complete FOL DVDs, nor on the season releases. But it's definitely worth seeing. Here it is on Daily Motion (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x536z0v) (sorry no CC, but there might be CC on the first season DS DVD).

The other episode is "The Slumber Party", DS Season 2.


Hi retro!

Didn't you read: cfr1970 is going to buy season 1 DS on Amazon for just £7 to be able to watch 'The girl's school' lol!:wave:

Hi retro!

Didn't you read: cfr1970 is going to buy season 1 DS on Amazon for just £7 to be able to watch 'The girl's school' lol!:wave:

He probably hasn't gotten through that thread yet. The Facts of Life sure is a busy forum. Lots to read each day. I think it's one of the busiest?

Got it! Yeah, at that price, it's a steal. Definitely worth it. You get to see the very beginnings of FOL, before many of the characters even existed! I can see why Valentina would recommend it.

He probably hasn't gotten through that thread yet. The Facts of Life sure is a busy forum. Lots to read each day. I think it's one of the busiest?

It's definitely one of the most active, here. And out of all the forums here, it's actually the one with the most messages.

It's definitely one of the most active, here. And out of all the forums here, it's actually the one with the most messages.

It's become the only one I come to anymore. Everyone is happy and friendly and it seems all pretty much agree on the show. You don't see many heated debates going on here. Just pure love for the show and that's so great!!

And almost all of us despise Kelly! :devil:

Except for the Loki. :lol::lol::lol:

CFR, since you're going to purchase the FOL DVDs, there definitely two episodes you should see. One is "The Girls' School", which is an episode of Diff'rent Strokes that served as the backdoor pilot. It is not included on the complete FOL DVDs, nor on the season releases. But it's definitely worth seeing. Here it is on Daily Motion (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x536z0v) (sorry no CC, but there might be CC on the first season DS DVD).

Beat'cha to it! I already showed him that in another thread. ;) :p

Or, as Mr. Bradley's stopwatch might say, I beat you by 5 seconds. :lol:


I'm definitely going to get the 1st season of DS just for the "Girl's School" episode.

Oh you'll enjoy some "Garrett goodness" in there too---there are a couple of Mrs. Garrett episodes! And unlike my friend Lorsie, I'm not gonna tell you what they're about. :lookaroun lol :wave:


The Facts of Life sure is a busy forum. Lots to read each day. I think it's one of the busiest?

It's definitely one of the most active here. And out of all the forums here, it's actually the one with the most messages.

To speak vulgarly ungrammatical, "You guys ain't seen nothin'!" You should've seen this place 20 years ago! These boards were HOP. PIN.' You couldn't believe all the new messages when you'd refresh---and I'm talkin' the whole board, not just FOL! (but definitely here included)


It's become the only one I come to anymore. Everyone is happy and friendly and it seems all pretty much agree on the show. You don't see many heated debates going on here. Just pure love for the show and that's so great!!

Yeah, it's almost that way all the time, but unfortunately not 100%.


And almost all of us despise Kelly! :devil:

:lol:


Except for the Loki. :lol::lol::lol:

:rofl:

I love it here, too. It's a great place to go and talk about my favorite shows, especially since we were ordered now to stay home here in New Orleans.

I love to reminisce about the 80s. I was a child and they were the happiest time of my life.

I love it here, too. It's a great place to go and talk about my favorite shows, especially since we were ordered now to stay home here in New Orleans.

I love to reminisce about the 80s. I was a child and they were the happiest time of my life.

So sorry to hear that you guys, too, have been told to stay home. Stay safe!

We're so glad you've chosen to come here and talk about 1980s TV. It was such an unusual time in pop culture. The music and the television shows were definitely one of the best parts of the 1980s. Coming here is like taking a walk down memory lane! And getting to talk with others who either experienced it, or even those who never experienced it, has been SO fun. :wave:

It's become the only one I come to anymore. Everyone is happy and friendly and it seems all pretty much agree on the show. You don't see many heated debates going on here. Just pure love for the show and that's so great!!

And almost all of us despise Kelly! :devil:

Except for the Loki. :lol::lol::lol:

:lol:

There've been some heated debates, but as long as there's love for the show (and not necessarily every aspect of it), I think that's what matters.

I was born in 1978, like my username suggests, but I remember the 80s VERY well and have very clear memories of those times. I loved NBC shows like Facts, Diff'rent Strokes, Punky Brewster, Silver Spoons... I remember them all. I also remember watching the last few seasons of Three's Company before seeing the whole series in syndication in the early 80s.

Beat'cha to it! I already showed him that in another thread. ;) :p

Or, as Mr. Bradley's stopwatch might say, I beat you by 5 seconds. :lol:
:lol:

Well, then, I'm just glad to chime in to add to the recommendations CFR received for "The Girls' School". You can't get any closer to the roots of FOL than that episode, and it's a shame viewers miss it.


To speak vulgarly ungrammatical, "You guys ain't seen nothin'!" You should've seen this place 20 years ago! These boards were HOP. PIN.' You couldn't believe all the new messages when you'd refresh---and I'm talkin' the whole board, not just FOL! (but definitely here included)

No, I know. I wasn't a member, but I occasionally lurked.

I blame Facebook for the massive exit.

I was born in 1978, like my username suggests, but I remember the 80s VERY well and have very clear memories of those times. I loved NBC shows like Facts, Diff'rent Strokes, Punky Brewster, Silver Spoons... I remember them all. I also remember watching the last few seasons of Three's Company before seeing the whole series in syndication in the early 80s.

I think a lot of those shows were, like, kids' shows with a wish fulfillment aspect. Who wouldn't want to be whisked away and spoiled by a millionaire? Who wouldn't want to go to a swanky school with a kindly housemother? I distinctly remember wishing I had a kid-sized train like on Silver Spoons! :lol:

I think these kids' shows don't exist on prime time network television anymore because the niche has been replaced by the Disney Channel and Nickolodeon. When I was a kid, I watched Nick a lot and it didn't have sitcoms, just Canadian kids' shows and stuff that was educational. The Disney Channel, which we had to pay for back then, had original movies, cartoons, and memorabilia for Babyboomers, but no kids' sitcoms. Now, and since my 15-year-old was about 4, both channels fill the tween-teen niche. The difference, though, is that the shows from the aughts, 10s, and today, which are specifically-made for children, do not teach lessons or push the envelope in any way to invite further discussion with adults. Facts and it's contemporaries did more to educate my generation and they were supposed to cater to all ages. I guess the change happened these days because of backlash they received over "very special episodes." Well, I'll tell you, I learned more about life from 80s sitcoms and soap operas that I ever did in school.

I think these kids' shows don't exist on prime time network television anymore because the niche has been replaced by the Disney Channel and Nickolodeon. When I was a kid, I watched Nick a lot and it didn't have sitcoms, just Canadian kids' shows and stuff that was educational.

Yeah, the only sitcom I can think of on Nick was Hey Dude. I'm not sure I'd call You Can't Do That on Television a sitcom. I loved them both, but I could only see them at my grandparents' house (we didn't have cable TV).


The Disney Channel, which we had to pay for back then, had original movies, cartoons, and memorabilia for Babyboomers, but no kids' sitcoms. Now, and since my 15-year-old was about 4, both channels fill the tween-teen niche. The difference, though, is that the shows from the aughts, 10s, and today, which are specifically-made for children, do not teach lessons or push the envelope in any way to invite further discussion with adults. Facts and it's contemporaries did more to educate my generation and they were supposed to cater to all ages. I guess the change happened these days because of backlash they received over "very special episodes." Well, I'll tell you, I learned more about life from 80s sitcoms and soap operas that I ever did in school.

Yep! Those shows sure were important, just for the life lessons.

The 70 s and 80 s are definitely the best decade in TV and music industry:
From watching 'Little house in the prairie', 'Wonder woman', 'Charlie's angels' to 'Different strokes', 'Facts of life' and 'family ties', TV was really something back then! (unlike today lol)

The 70 s and 80 s are definitely the best decade in TV and music industry:
From watching 'Little house in the prairie', 'Wonder woman', 'Charlie's angels' to 'Different strokes', 'Facts of life' and 'family ties', TV was really something back then! (unlike today lol)

I loved Family Ties, DS, FOL of course... I only liked the first four seasons of Little House, which began as such a sweet show. After year four, the original characters began to disappear, replaced by new characters I never liked, and the show started to get strange, culminating in the episode where a young girl is raped by a mime. I don't know what drugs the writers were on, but the show lost its way. Complete shark jump. :eek:

I loved Family Ties, DS, FOL of course... I only liked the first four seasons of Little House, which began as such a sweet show. After year four, the original characters began to disappear, replaced by new characters I never liked, and the show started to get strange, culminating in the episode where a young girl is raped by a mime. I don't know what drugs the writers were on, but the show lost its way. Complete shark jump. :eek:

What?! Just reading that sounded so absurd I had to laugh at the image it conjures up. Are you sure you were watching Little House?! That sounds way too bizarre...well, for any show.

I thought I seen the whole series, but I don't remember mimes raping people. OMG...what were they thinking?! Trying to boost ratings?!

What?! Just reading that sounded so absurd I had to laugh at the image it conjures up. Are you sure you were watching Little House?! That sounds way too bizarre...well, for any show.

No joke. (https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2011/08/25/raped-by-a-mime-the-creepiest-episode-of-little-house-on-the-prairie) In fact, for years on the Television Without Pity forum, the Little House forum was called "Ma, Pa, and the Mime that Raped Sylvia", in recognition of the fact that the show got seriously weird in its final years. What had once been a family-friendly show had become a twisted, malignant shadow of its former self.


I thought I seen the whole series, but I don't remember mimes raping people. OMG...what were they thinking?! Trying to boost ratings?!

I suspect so. There's also the episode where Mary's baby is used as a battering ram by Alice Garvey, who dies in the Blind School fire, and the episode where an Ingalls family member dies of an addiction to morphine. All later-season episodes.

No joke. (https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2011/08/25/raped-by-a-mime-the-creepiest-episode-of-little-house-on-the-prairie) In fact, for years on the Television Without Pity forum, the Little House forum was called "Ma, Pa, and the Mime that Raped Sylvia", in recognition of the fact that the show got seriously weird in its final years. What had once been a family-friendly show had become a twisted, malignant shadow of its former self.



I suspect so. There's also the episode where Mary's baby is used as a battering ram by Alice Garvey, who dies in the Blind School fire, and the episode where an Ingalls family member dies of an addiction to morphine. All later-season episodes.


I just read the whole thing in that link. It reads like a short horror story. When I got to the end I was shocked it was Irv the blacksmith lol. Really weird and strange episode and definitely NOT what Little House was about.

I do remember using the baby to break the window during the fire (LOL) and when they turned Albert into a strung out junkie. That story was way too modern for the show and I think it ended soon afterwards. And rightfully so.

I just read the whole thing in that link. It reads like a short horror story. When I got to the end I was shocked it was Irv the blacksmith lol. Really weird and strange episode and definitely NOT what Little House was about.

Yes. Anyone who knows me knows that I do not like it when TV shows change direction, letting go of the original cast members, hiring new actors, and changing the premise of the show. By the end, Little House wasn't even about the original family: only one original cast member was left.


I do remember using the baby to break the window during the fire (LOL) and when they turned Albert into a strung out junkie. That story was way too modern for the show and I think it ended soon afterwards. And rightfully so.

Glad to know I'm not the only one here who remembers other horrific episodes. To this day, I wonder what was going on in Michael Landon's head. What had once been a sweet, gentle little show based on real history had devolved into Law and Order: Special Victims Unit! :eek::lol:

Yikes glad I never watched Little House

Yikes glad I never watched Little House

The first four seasons were fine. But I suspect large amounts of cocaine were involved in the writing of the next five seasons.

Wow i never knew that about 'LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE': i watched lots of episodes and even most seasons, but i must have missed that part!
I remember though, when after NELLY left to be married, they replaced her by another 'clone' of her who acted exactly like her (although to be honest she didn't looked at all like her (except for the hairdo).

Wow i never knew that about 'LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE': i watched lots of episodes and even most seasons, but i must have missed that part!
I remember though, when after NELLY left to be married, they replaced her by another 'clone' of her who acted exactly like her (although to be honest she didn't looked at all like her (except for the hairdo).

OMG I HATED that Nellie clone. What a little weirdo she was.

The first four seasons were fine. But I suspect large amounts of cocaine were involved in the writing of the next five seasons.

:lol:

OMG I HATED that Nellie clone. What a little weirdo she was.


I know: NELLY had a lot more potential than her 'clone' (can't remember her name) and i liked her even though she was a very naughty girl (somehow she kind of reminds me of BLAIR with her snobbish attitude, although she was a lot meaner ha ha ha!) and now come to think of it, her relationship with LAURA was a lot like JO/BLAIR 'frenemies', and in the end they become good friends.:talk::talk::talk: just like on FOL!

I know: NELLY had a lot more potential than her 'clone' (can't remember her name)

Her name, ironically, was Nancy Oleson.... very similar to Nancy Olson on FOL! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

The ep. before it was Tootie breaking up with Jeff. WTH was she doing dating someone in college?! I thought they both were in Eastland together!! Yikes!

Jeff was introduced in season 5 as a senior in high school so they did start dating while in high school. I love Tootie and Jeff together. They're the best of season 9 so I don't mind that he's a couple of years older than her.


Cruisin' is funny. I think the purpose of the episode was to showcase the friendship of the main 4 since they were fading Mrs. Garrett out. You can tell season 6 was the beginning for the writers to get fans focused on the main 4 only since Charlotte was wanting out. They were definitely scrambling to get episode ideas to make this happen. A lot of the episodes where it's just the main 4 aren't bad in season 6. After how depressing season 5 was, I like the change in tone that started in season 6. It was more comedy which suited the girls.

Jeff was introduced in season 5 as a senior in high school so they did start dating while in high school. I love Tootie and Jeff together. They're the best of season 9 so I don't mind that he's a couple of years older than her.


Cruisin' is funny. I think the purpose of the episode was to showcase the friendship of the main 4 since they were fading Mrs. Garrett out. You can tell season 6 was the beginning for the writers to get fans focused on the main 4 only since Charlotte was wanting out. They were definitely scrambling to get episode ideas to make this happen. A lot of the episodes where it's just the main 4 aren't bad in season 6. After how depressing season 5 was, I like the change in tone that started in season 6. It was more comedy which suited the girls.


You found season 5 'depressing'??? What about season 7 then? (i found myself almost in tears and bored to death with ANDY and GEORGE lol!):eek::eek::eek:

Whats more: season 5 is the beginning of 'EDNA'S EDIBLES', and the first time we see the girls living under the same roof as MRS G (without any distraction from headmaster lol):talk:

You found season 5 'depressing'??? What about season 7 then? (i found myself almost in tears and bored to death with ANDY and GEORGE lol!):eek::eek::eek:

Whats more: season 5 is the beginning of 'EDNA'S EDIBLES', and the first time we see the girls living under the same roof as MRS G (without any distraction from headmaster lol):talk:

Well Natalie's father died in season 5....you can't get more depressing than death. And I think her grief stretched through a couple of episodes.

Well Natalie's father died in season 5....you can't get more depressing than death. And I think her grief stretched through a couple of episodes.

Very true! A very sad stretch

Well Natalie's father died in season 5....you can't get more depressing than death. And I think her grief stretched through a couple of episodes.


Okay, so the episode 'A death in the family' was definitely a tragic one and very unnecessary to the show, but it was also the only sad one: the rest of them were rather funny and heartwarming...;)

Okay, so the episode 'A death in the family' was definitely a tragic one and very unnecessary to the show, but it was also the only sad one: the rest of them were rather funny and heartwarming...;)

I wouldn't say it was unnecessary. It was a major fact of life that was inevitable to happen to one of them during the series. Sure it was sad, but I think it was definitely necessary to depict that during the run, otherwise it wouldn't really be true to the whole basis of the show.

I don't think you can call a show the facts of life and not deal with death. They dealt with teen suicide earlier in the series, but until Nat's Dad died, I don't think any of the girls dealt with close family death yet.

Now if Blair, Jo & Tootie's parents dropped dead after Nat's, then it would've been depressing and unnecessary. :lol:

Okay, so the episode 'A death in the family' was definitely a tragic one and very unnecessary to the show, but it was also the only sad one: the rest of them were rather funny and heartwarming...;)

Seems Like Old Times wasn't funny and heartwarming. It was depressing because of all the guys Jo was with by this point, he was the one she truly loved.

The Second Time Around had funny moments but it also brought forth reality to a lot of kids whose parents are divorce. Kids who want their parents back together don't end up like that. Charlie telling Jo that the three of them will never be a family again was horrible to hear because that's how it is for kids with divorce parents.

Next Door brought out reality's of how dangerous it is for latchkey kids to be left alone. Not every parent can afford daycare or find someone they trust to watch their kids while they work. I think this episode brought out more fears for single parents than comfort.

There's others but these ones besides Natalie's father dying stand out the most. Oh and the racism episode. That wasn't heartwarming since we learned Tootie's aunt divorced her white husband and they were all happy there was no kids involved. Season 5 had a lot of dark, serious issues.

Whats more: season 5 is the beginning of 'EDNA'S EDIBLES', and the first time we see the girls living under the same roof as MRS G (without any distraction from headmaster lol):talk:

As a glass-half-full guy myself, I agree with this. The change of venue and employment for everyone is really something to focus on.

Seems Like Old Times wasn't funny and heartwarming. It was depressing because of all the guys Jo was with by this point, he was the one she truly loved.

The Second Time Around had funny moments but it also brought forth reality to a lot of kids whose parents are divorce. Kids who want their parents back together don't end up like that. Charlie telling Jo that the three of them will never be a family again was horrible to hear because that's how it is for kids with divorce parents.

Next Door brought out reality's of how dangerous it is for latchkey kids to be left alone. Not every parent can afford daycare or find someone they trust to watch their kids while they work. I think this episode brought out more fears for single parents than comfort.

There's others but these ones besides Natalie's father dying stand out the most. Oh and the racism episode. That wasn't heartwarming since we learned Tootie's aunt divorced her white husband and they were all happy there was no kids involved. Season 5 had a lot of dark, serious issues.


I suppose you have a point there: it's just that, when i think about SEASON 5, i tend to picture the rather funny episodes i like, such as the ones with KELLY, or the ones where BLAIR wants to join Gamma Gamma vs BOOTSIE, the 'Halloween' one, or the one with the 'Chain letter' which is one of my favourites!

The ones you mentioned about the 'latchkey' kid i found rather boring and it had nothing to do with FOL.... And the one with JO's parents getting divorced was too depressing to watch! (i normally tend to favourite the funny ones lol!):happyface:happyface:happyface

Interesting, I don't remember the Jo's parents episode being "depressing" or hard to watch at all.

As for the latchkey kid "having nothing to do with FOL", well, you could say it showed development of Tootie and how she handles younger children.

Interesting, I don't remember the Jo's parents episode being "depressing" or hard to watch at all.

As for the latchkey kid "having nothing to do with FOL", well, you could say it showed development of Tootie and how she handles younger children.


I guess 'depressing' is too strong a word for it: i meant maybe a bit 'melancholic' towards the end, when JO's father tells her they'll never be a family again:(

And yes, TOOTIE did show maturity handling the kid;)

Seems Like Old Times wasn't funny and heartwarming. It was depressing because of all the guys Jo was with by this point, he was the one she truly loved.

The Second Time Around had funny moments but it also brought forth reality to a lot of kids whose parents are divorce. Kids who want their parents back together don't end up like that. Charlie telling Jo that the three of them will never be a family again was horrible to hear because that's how it is for kids with divorce parents.

Next Door brought out reality's of how dangerous it is for latchkey kids to be left alone. Not every parent can afford daycare or find someone they trust to watch their kids while they work. I think this episode brought out more fears for single parents than comfort.

There's others but these ones besides Natalie's father dying stand out the most. Oh and the racism episode. That wasn't heartwarming since we learned Tootie's aunt divorced her white husband and they were all happy there was no kids involved. Season 5 had a lot of dark, serious issues.

The 2nd time around was a recycled plot from Molly's holiday.

The 2nd time around was a recycled plot from Molly's holiday.

So was season 2's "The Secret", in a way.

And "The Second Time Around" would have been a great Cindy vehicle.

very interesting points of view you both have: 80s Dude and 80sSitcoms! I like it!

So was season 2's "The Secret", in a way.

In a way, yes. But there are also some significant differences. But Blair's line is definitely reused. I suppose the writers thought no-one would notice.


And "The Second Time Around" would have been a great Cindy vehicle.

That would have been really cool!

In a way, yes. But there are also some significant differences. But Blair's line is definitely reused. I suppose the writers thought no-one would notice.

Yeah, that's what I mean by "in a way"---it's like that whole girls' room scene was reycycled.


That would have been really cool!

Yup, that's what I did in my "reimagining!" lol.