View Full Version : Apparently Dick York was fired from Bewitched


Monliz
03-12-2020, 09:12 AM
According to Barry Pintar, Asher told him that Dick York didn't resign from Bewitched, he got fired.

Barry Pintar says Asher told him that when he went to visit York to the hospital after he collapsed, he told York in a compassionate way that he was fired because the show can't afford his constant absences anymore.

Barry Pintar also says that according to Asher, York had a serious addiction to alcohol and that the rest of the cast wasn't compassionate about his departure.

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Harlock
03-16-2020, 02:37 PM
Dick York said he resigned. I believe York's version

Larry Tate
03-17-2020, 11:50 AM
There is no York version to believe, here it is in this video clear as a bell right from Bill Asher's word to us all York was Fired and had no say in his staying on the show or not.

Later the following year in late spring Dick York did re-approach Screen Gems and ABC about returning to the cast as Darrin.

He had asked to be allowed a sabbatical till that September to allow his back to heal at which point filming of his scenes would have recommenced.

By that point though Screen Gems had recast Darrin and signed Dick Sargent for the role, in fact 3 or 4 episodes had already been filmed by that point in time and were in the can so to speak.

As well Liz & Bill and Screen Gems did not believe that the time off would make any difference knowing full well the extent of Dick Yorks back problems and how difficult it had been for him all those years.

They correctly believed that he would still be incapacitated after his time off and would be unable to work.

This would have left Bewitched in the Lurch without a Darrin and with most likely all the best candidates no longer available forcing them to take whatever they could get.

They proved to be right as after Dick York's collapse in early December, 1968 he was bedridden and only semi lucid for for more then a year so obviously would have been unable to film scenes for Bewitched in September, 1969.

Interestingly Dick York in interviews near the end of his life in the 1990's still claimed if they had just given him that summer off he could have finished the run of the show.

So he was clearly in denial on that matter all of his life.

Larry Tate
03-17-2020, 11:50 AM
The delays caused by his absences and the uncertainty of his being able to work any given week due to his back condition cost both ABC & Screen Gems a fair bit of money, so i think they would have been inclined to cut their loses at that point.

Later the following year in late spring Dick York did re-approach Screen Gems and ABC about returning to the cast as Darrin.

He had asked to be allowed a sabbatical till that September to allow his back to heal at which point filming of his scenes would have recommenced.

By that point though Screen Gems had recast Darrin and signed Dick Sargent for the role, in fact 3 or 4 episodes had already been filmed by that point in time and were in the can so to speak.

As well Liz & Bill and Screen Gems did not believe that the time off would make any difference knowing full well the extent of Dick Yorks back problems and how difficult it had been for him all those years.

They correctly believed that he would still be incapacitated after his time off and would be unable to work.

This would have left Bewitched in the Lurch without a Darrin and with most likely all the best candidates no longer available forcing them to take whatever they could get.

They proved to be right as after Dick York's collapse in early December, 1968 he was bedridden and only semi lucid for for more then a year so obviously would have been unable to film scenes for Bewitched in September, 1969.

He was never again able to physically work for any sustained period of time, so the time off would have accomplished nothing.

That summer after he had been rebuffed by the Ashers and Screen Gems he said in an article that he was glad to have left the show and wanted to play other roles, that he felt he was improperly and underused as Darrin and that the atmosphere on the set was very unpleasant.

Talk about burning your bridges, that alone made any further expectation of any contact between Elizabeth Montgomery and Dick York in the future unrealistic and not rational.

Why would anyone rush to that aid of someone who in your last interaction with them had slapped you in the face.

Interestingly Dick York in interviews near the end of his life in the 1990's still claimed if they had just given him that summer off he could have finished the run of the show.

So he was clearly in denial on that matter all of his life.

It is sad he was not able to finish the run of the series, it would have been great and preferable if he could have, but it simply was not possible.

At least we do have his wonderful performances of the first 4 2/3 seasons of the show to enjoy over and over, they are all timeless those episodes and never get old.

Monliz
03-17-2020, 05:18 PM
My first thought was that this is ridiculous - York having an alcohol addiction, which led to him being fired. Mostly because York admitted to every other problem he had in life. Why not this? But I do wonder that it could be true because it would explain a great deal.

Especially Elizabeth's odd silence about York for years and her supposedly wanting him out (per William Froug). I don't believe Elizabeth would ever be so cruel as to not sympathize with his back pain and dependence on prescription pain pills thus demanding he be fired.

Nor do I believe Froug's assessment that she disliked him because he was "smitten" with her and that she didn't like being loved by any man. And forget the blatant lie that York was "lecherous" to her as has been accused here. As idiotic as that accusation is, Bill Asher would never have let that happen in any sense of the word.

But an alcohol addiction - and we know more about how alcohol is addictive today than we did in the 1960s - that could really have irritated Elizabeth because she worked with York intimately. She could have seen it as interfering with production too much and that's understandable. She also could have seen his drinking as something he could control but didn't. And if Herbie Pilato's accusation that she herself may have been drinking heavily (as far back as her marriage to Gig Young) Elizabeth may have seen something in York's addiction that scared her.

And why did Bill Asher protect York if this is true? Having worked on "I Love Lucy" Asher knew all about behind the scenes drama and cast members with real issues - but that onscreen they were perfect (William Frawley's legendary drinking being one issue). Bill Asher and Elizabeth protecting York's secret their whole lives, in a way, is actually quite touching and a loyal thing to do. Again, if this is true.

We will never know the real story on any of this - as William Froug himself even mused. But this possibility actually makes everyone much more sympathetic - Bill, Elizabeth, and Dick York. And poor Dick York really did suffer terribly. It makes me like him even more (if true).

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:lol::lol::lol:

Why do you keep pushing this same narrative over and over? Every thing related to York you twist it and try to make it look like Liz liked him and was friends with him. You want to save York's reputation so badly and it's ok but you can't do it with lies.

York himself said in his book that Liz grew tired of him after the second season, so there's nothing more to say. You already know that, so stop with your nonsense.

Monliz
03-17-2020, 05:56 PM
For some reason Tcr1701 deleted the post he made. Anyways I have the screenshot of the comment he posted in this thread.

https://i.gyazo.com/b7b37800fe5fc70336908845f83ab8ac.png


This is fascinating Tcr1701, you managed to turn York's alcoholism into something positive, you even managed to find a way to turn York's alcoholism into a ridiculous proof that Liz liked him because according to you she protected York's alcoholism secret, man I admire your twisting abilities and how you spin things around to promote your agenda

If anything York's alcoholism may have contributed to York's inappropriate behavior towards Liz, his alcoholism probably made Liz dislike him even more.

If York was an alcoholic there's no reason for anyone to have sympathy for him. Stop trying to make York look like a hero because of his alcoholism, your defense of York is getting silly now.

MA
03-18-2020, 06:36 AM
Can all of this please just stop?

tcr1701
03-18-2020, 01:50 PM
Can all of this please just stop?

Sadly, civil discussion and a fun exchange of ideas is no longer possible here. I will not be responding to the intentional chaos any longer.

Harlock
03-18-2020, 07:06 PM
There is no York version to believe, here it is in this video clear as a bell right from Bill Asher's word to us all York was Fired and had no say in his staying on the show or not.

Later the following year in late spring Dick York did re-approach Screen Gems and ABC about returning to the cast as Darrin.

He had asked to be allowed a sabbatical till that September to allow his back to heal at which point filming of his scenes would have recommenced.

By that point though Screen Gems had recast Darrin and signed Dick Sargent for the role, in fact 3 or 4 episodes had already been filmed by that point in time and were in the can so to speak.

As well Liz & Bill and Screen Gems did not believe that the time off would make any difference knowing full well the extent of Dick Yorks back problems and how difficult it had been for him all those years.

They correctly believed that he would still be incapacitated after his time off and would be unable to work.

This would have left Bewitched in the Lurch without a Darrin and with most likely all the best candidates no longer available forcing them to take whatever they could get.

They proved to be right as after Dick York's collapse in early December, 1968 he was bedridden and only semi lucid for for more then a year so obviously would have been unable to film scenes for Bewitched in September, 1969.

Interestingly Dick York in interviews near the end of his life in the 1990's still claimed if they had just given him that summer off he could have finished the run of the show.

So he was clearly in denial on that matter all of his life.

Barry Pintar didn't post the interview with Bill Asher so we'll never know if Asher truly said that or not. He could be lying, I don't know if what he said about York is true, we can believe him or not, but we can't be sure because we didn't hear Asher saying York was fired. So I choose to believe York's version.

Mr. Television
03-18-2020, 07:17 PM
Sadly, civil discussion and a fun exchange of ideas is no longer possible here. I will not be responding to the intentional chaos any longer.
Larry Tate has been nothing but a troll here for years. I don't know if Monliz is LT or not but they are in cahoots together.

Larry Tate
03-19-2020, 11:41 AM
All i have done is tell the facts and the truth about salient and relevant aspects of Bewitched that all true fans care about and want to be knowledgeable about.

I have always responded to twisted lies you and our ilk with your multiple personalities who have attempted to blame and trash Elizabeth Montgomery for all of Dick Yorks foibles and weakness, blaming her when the fault was his and his alone for many of the negatives aspects that controlled his life.

Perverted garbage that tries to blame her for understandably wanting to have nothing to do with him after the show, making up blatant falsehoods as to her purported motivations for having him removed from Bewitched which in the end was what was done.

Trying to paint him as the star of the and the one responsible for the success of Bewitched when it was overwhelmingly Elizabeth Montgomerys accomplishment and success.

Trying to paint the two as if they were best friends and almost if not lovers when that could not be farther from the truth with the opposite being the case.

You are a Liar and deflecting trash, that is what you are, your rock is lonely, go back and crawl back under it.

You are both deleted and dismissed,:lol::lol::happyface:happyface:wave::wave:

Larry Tate has been nothing but a troll here for years. I don't know if Monliz is LT or not but they are in cahoots together.

Larry Tate
03-19-2020, 11:58 AM
Your comments are comically idiotic and hypocritical, when you hear a Barry Pintar video that says what you want to hear about DY you lionize him, when it is what you do not want to hear you spout this kind of drivel, you Yorkies are all alike.

If he played the tape you would claim it was doctored or not believable because he was from Venus, what the heck do you think he was doing, he was chatting with a friend in Bill Asher not video tapeing him, who do you think he was and is, Bob Crane?

What Pinter said was the truth, deal with it, your boy had feet of clay.:wave::wave:

Barry Pintar didn't post the interview with Bill Asher so we'll never know if Asher truly said that or not. He could be lying, I don't know if what he said about York is true, we can believe him or not, but we can't be sure because we didn't hear Asher saying York was fired. So I choose to believe York's version.

Larry Tate
03-19-2020, 12:18 PM
Yorks lecherous behavior is fact and the truth not a lie, Elizabeth Montgomery did not have a drinking problem, she drank while with Gig Young and alcoholic so she could spend time with him and stay close to him, as Cliff Robertson once said on camera that Gig had a drinking problem, but not Elizabeth.

Her experience with Young would have made her less tolerating of Yorks drinking problem as after going through all that she did with Young she would not put up with that kind of behavior again.

tcr1701
03-19-2020, 12:28 PM
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I do enjoy your posts, Mr Television, so glad you are a voice of reason here.

tcr1701
03-19-2020, 12:33 PM
Dick York said he resigned. I believe York's version

I do know Joey York really, really wanted him to quit after his seizure on set and she spoke to Bill Asher about that. If you look at York in much of season 5 he was very thin that year.

Harlock
03-19-2020, 05:27 PM
I do know Joey York really, really wanted him to quit after his seizure on set and she spoke to Bill Asher about that. If you look at York in much of season 5 he was very thin that year.

Yes and I've read Dick York's book many years ago, he explained in depth the health issues he had, the painkillers, the smoking and all that, so if he suffered from alcoholism I think he would have said it too.

Dick York in his book seemed to be a humble man and down the earth, I can't see a nice man like him being an alcoholic, and I can't see him lying about his exit , he seemed very sincere.

Monliz
03-24-2020, 10:31 AM
Yes and I've read Dick York's book many years ago, he explained in depth the health issues he had, the painkillers, the smoking and all that, so if he suffered from alcoholism I think he would have said it too.

Dick York in his book seemed to be a humble man and down the earth, I can't see a nice man like him being an alcoholic, and I can't see him lying about his exit , he seemed very sincere.

Nobody likes to admit getting fired from a job, maybe that's why York didn't say the truth.

Willbo
03-24-2020, 04:52 PM
DY did not seem to have a problem being honest about everything else. Why would he lie about being fired? There are too many conflicting stories to know what is the exact truth.

Schmoopie
03-24-2020, 06:32 PM
Can all of this please just stop?


I just replied to a thread not two minutes ago on this very subject so I don't understand why there are multiple ones.

RetroGuy2000
03-24-2020, 10:01 PM
I just replied to a thread not two minutes ago on this very subject so I don't understand why there are multiple ones.

Because Larry Tate/Monliz wants us all to know how much Dick York was fired and hated by everyone around him. We are swimming in duplicate threads posted by Larry/Monliz.

There's Elizabeth Montgomery and Dick Sargent together in the early 90s (https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=390024) and Elizabeth Montgomery and Dick Sargent together in the early 90s (https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=390023) (two different threads with the same title) and Was Dick York Fired or did he resign? (https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=389512) and Apparently Dick York was fired from Bewitched (https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=389698), all created by Larry Tate/Monliz.

I see Larry Tate's account has been suspended, so maybe the number of duplicate threads will be halved.

Willbo
03-24-2020, 10:28 PM
I agree. I think we will see less from both (Larry Tate/Monliz) since they are one in the same person.

Schmoopie
03-24-2020, 11:34 PM
Because Larry Tate/Monliz wants us all to know how much Dick York was fired and hated by everyone around him. We are swimming in duplicate threads posted by Larry/Monliz.

There's Elizabeth Montgomery and Dick Sargent together in the early 90s (https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=390024) and Elizabeth Montgomery and Dick Sargent together in the early 90s (https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=390023) (two different threads with the same title) and Was Dick York Fired or did he resign? (https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=389512) and Apparently Dick York was fired from Bewitched (https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=389698), all created by Larry Tate/Monliz.

I see Larry Tate's account has been suspended, so maybe the number of duplicate threads will be halved.


Oh okay. I wasn't really trying to complain. Just thought it was odd that there was more than one on the same subject. Thanks for clarifiying.

Monliz
03-25-2020, 05:18 AM
There's Elizabeth Montgomery and Dick Sargent together in the early 90s (https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=390024) and Elizabeth Montgomery and Dick Sargent together in the early 90s (https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=390023) (two different threads with the same title) .

Those aren't different threads with the same title, those are the exact same threads, I posted it twice by mistake, I think I clicked in the "submit thread" twice.

Bonniegirl
03-25-2020, 01:03 PM
If anyone's interested, Dick York guest starred on Wagon Train yesterday !!;):cool::D

RetroGuy2000
03-25-2020, 05:04 PM
If anyone's interested, Dick York guest starred on Wagon Train yesterday !!;):cool::D

So he was also responsible for the Wagon Train cancellation? :lol:

I kid, I kid! What was his part?

Monliz
03-25-2020, 05:23 PM
Because Larry Tate/Monliz wants us all to know how much Dick York was fired and hated by everyone around him. We are swimming in duplicate threads posted by Larry/Monliz.


I see Larry Tate's account has been suspended, so maybe the number of duplicate threads will be halved.

If Larry Tate and I were the same person, I would have been suspended too, but mods have access to the IP of everyone so they know we're not the same. Checkmate:p

Bonniegirl
03-26-2020, 01:01 AM
So he was also responsible for the Wagon Train cancellation? :lol:

I kid, I kid! What was his part?


IDK , I just clicked over to METV as WT was ending, I saw Dick York in the closing credits ! It gave me a little chuckle because of all the Dick York backlash lately here on S.O. ! I thought Larry Tate would really have a fit over this and INDEED he would blame Dick York if Wagon Train went down in ratings way back than !! :lol::D:wave:

RetroGuy2000
03-26-2020, 02:17 AM
IDK , I just clicked over to METV as WT was ending, I saw Dick York in the closing credits ! It gave me a little chuckle because of all the Dick York backlash lately here on S.O. ! I thought Larry Tate would really have a fit over this and INDEED he would blame Dick York if Wagon Train went down in ratings way back than !! :lol::D:wave:

:lol:

Looks like, according to this (https://www.trend-chaser.com/entertainment/roll-along-a-look-back-at-the-cast-of-wagon-train/21/), Dick York did three episodes of Wagon Train.

Bonniegirl
03-26-2020, 02:43 AM
:lol:

Looks like, according to this (https://www.trend-chaser.com/entertainment/roll-along-a-look-back-at-the-cast-of-wagon-train/21/), Dick York did three episodes of Wagon Train.


Wow!! Check him out with the facial hair! He looks good !!;) A shame he didn't grow a beard on Bewitched ! Back than it wasn 't really mainstream though, wouldn't really fly with a suburban business man , only for beatniks and hippies !! :D

RetroGuy2000
03-26-2020, 02:56 AM
Wow!! Check him out with the facial hair! He looks good !!;) A shame he didn't grow a beard on Bewitched ! Back than it wasn 't really mainstream though, wouldn't really fly with a suburban business man , only for beatniks and hippies !! :D

Yep. But just wait five years, and everyone was growing them! :grrbald:

tcr1701
03-26-2020, 05:08 PM
Dick York also appeared on Rawhide with Jeannie....I mean Barbara Eden.


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49702130776_71e7ab7831_n.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49702131376_42bf3bb206_n.jpg

tcr1701
03-26-2020, 05:12 PM
And, perhaps ironically, Dick Sargent appeared on I Dream of Jeannie as a country lawyer.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49701624958_e585bbd8cd_n.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49702528302_9da79d9298_n.jpg

Bonniegirl
03-26-2020, 09:33 PM
Awesome tcr1701!! :):wave: I also saw him on , I think Alfred Hitchcock presents ? But it might have been The Twight zone ? One of those old spooky shows ! ;)

RetroGuy2000
03-27-2020, 12:41 AM
Nice Dick pics, tcr! :lol:

Bonniegirl
03-27-2020, 12:55 AM
Nice Dick pics, tcr! :lol:


Yes!!! :lol::D:wave:

tcr1701
03-27-2020, 08:50 AM
Nice Dick pics, tcr! :lol:

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.kinja-img.com%2Fgawker-media%2Fimage%2Fupload%2Fs--w5aH0Lfm--%2Fc_fit%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_80%2Cw_636%2Fv8gebfbadnxeua4jjv0p.gif&f=1&nofb=1

tcr1701
03-27-2020, 08:51 AM
Awesome tcr1701!! :):wave: I also saw him on , I think Alfred Hitchcock presents ? But it might have been The Twight zone ? One of those old spooky shows ! ;)

He was on Alfred Hitchcock 6 times and Twilight Zone 2 times.

Willbo
03-27-2020, 11:45 AM
I watched the first couple of episodes of Bewitched last night from season 1. I forgot how funny they were. Episode 1 with Sheila is a riot. Then episode 2 introduces Gladys and Abner. Her facial expressions were hilarious. The cast was perfect. The chemistry between DY and EM was through the roof. I watched these on Hulu. I needed a break from the coronavirus and this was a perfect choice. These episodes are in color but they look very natural. Alice Pearce was a gem.

tcr1701
03-27-2020, 06:39 PM
I watched the first couple of episodes of Bewitched last night from season 1. I forgot how funny they were. Episode 1 with Sheila is a riot. Then episode 2 introduces Gladys and Abner. Her facial expressions were hilarious. The cast was perfect. The chemistry between DY and EM was through the roof. I watched these on Hulu. I needed a break from the coronavirus and this was a perfect choice. These episodes are in color but they look very natural. Alice Pearce was a gem.

The first two seasons are really exceptionally well written and acted. And very funny. Alice Pearce was a huge loss to the show - her Gladys was sympathetic and overtly funny. When season 3 starts the tone completely changes and the emphasis was more on magical antics rather than the romance.

Bonniegirl
03-27-2020, 08:11 PM
The first two seasons are really exceptionally well written and acted. And very funny. Alice Pearce was a huge loss to the show - her Gladys was sympathetic and overtly funny. When season 3 starts the tone completely changes and the emphasis was more on magical antics rather than the romance.


I am in the minority here butI like the second Gladys better! ;) And the later seasons better. Of course the eps./ seasons still with York , better than Sargeant. But the Sargeant eps.are good too! ;)

Monliz
03-28-2020, 09:24 AM
Since Barbara Eden was a beautiful blonde girl, I wonder if York fell in love with her too. Would have been interesting if in one of the interviews he did, he was asked about Barbara, just to see if he talks about her in a lecherous way like he did with Liz in his book.

Willbo
03-28-2020, 11:32 AM
Why don't we just ask her. Barbara Eden, if you are reading this how was Dick York to work with? Was he a gentleman? June Lockhart is still living. Should we ask her?

Bonniegirl
03-28-2020, 02:20 PM
Why don't we just ask her. Barbara Eden, if you are reading this how was Dick York to work with? Was he a gentleman? June Lockhart is still living. Should we ask her?


Yeah really !! In this time of the coronavirus with so much to worry about , I'm sure Dick York is the first thing on Barbara Eden and June Lockhart's minds !! :D Unless they are weirdly obsessed with him like Larry Tate and Moritz ( or whatever that posters name is ) are !! :lol:

RetroGuy2000
03-28-2020, 06:40 PM
Yeah really !! In this time of the coronavirus with so much to worry about , I'm sure Dick York is the first thing on Barbara Eden and June Lockhart's minds !! :D Unless they are weirdly obsessed with him like Larry Tate and Moritz ( or whatever that posters name is ) are !! :lol:

:lol:

It's so weird how a photo of Dick York with Barbara Eden would cause that kind of reaction.

Willbo
03-28-2020, 07:41 PM
I was being facetious. I agree that would be pretty low on their minds. Monliz and Larry Tate forget there are people still alive that worked with DY. I have never read or heard any negative comments about him (DY) from any other people in Hollywood. I have heard lots of praise especially with his work with the homeless.

stevea
03-28-2020, 08:03 PM
The first two seasons are really exceptionally well written and acted. And very funny. Alice Pearce was a huge loss to the show - her Gladys was sympathetic and overtly funny. When season 3 starts the tone completely changes and the emphasis was more on magical antics rather than the romance.

Probably my favorite episode is called Double Tate. That scene where Larry keeps unlocking the door and is back outside again is absolutely LOL. I think it's sometimes edited on TV but unedited I think he makes several tries.

Back to the subject, Dick York was in a season 5 episode of Father Knows Best. He and Betty were in a contest where they were pulling a covered wagon back to Springfield.

Dick Sargent was in a Hazel episode, playing Mr. Griffin's nephew. I don't remember the exact plot in that one, other than that Dick's character was getting married.

Oh, also--re Alice Pearce/Sandra Gould, they played the character differently. Pearce and Gould played the nosy part the same, but Pearce played it more as scared and going nuts by what she saw, and Gould was more persistent, determined to find out what was going on. I think Pearce's portrayal was way less annoying to this viewer. But I also take into consideration that the actress is probably only playing it as she's told.

tcr1701
03-28-2020, 10:06 PM
Oh, also--re Alice Pearce/Sandra Gould, they played the character differently. Pearce and Gould played the nosy part the same, but Pearce played it more as scared and going nuts by what she saw, and Gould was more persistent, determined to find out what was going on. I think Pearce's portrayal was way less annoying to this viewer. But I also take into consideration that the actress is probably only playing it as she's told.

I like Sandra Gould, but I wish she had lightened up a bit. She was downright mean at times. I think she was an actress and not a comedienne like Alice Pearce.But I know she said did not want to imitate Alice out of respect. Sandra to me sounds a bit like she has a slight New Jersey accent at times.

Interestingly, Alice Ghostly was initially offered the part of Mrs. Kravitz after Pearce died. Ghoslty would have made an interesting and probably more funny second Gladys.

She talks Bewitched here (around 5 minutes in):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i4c3FyjFx8

and replacing Pearce here (again at about 5 minutes in):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioi57UMtyiM

stevea
03-28-2020, 10:10 PM
Yeah, but then no Esmeralda later, or a diff. actress. AG was perfect for that part.

Monliz
03-29-2020, 05:43 AM
I was being facetious. I agree that would be pretty low on their minds. Monliz and Larry Tate forget there are people still alive that worked with DY. I have never read or heard any negative comments about him (DY) from any other people in Hollywood. I have heard lots of praise especially with his work with the homeless.

That's not true, you've heard negative comments about him, you've heard producers and crew members saying that Liz didn't like York because of his inappropriate behavior towards her. Also you've seen how Liz always praised the cast of Bewitched but never praised him. So maybe York wasn't such good person as you think.

Willbo
03-29-2020, 09:42 AM
That's not true, you've heard negative comments about him, you've heard producers and crew members saying that Liz didn't like York because of his inappropriate behavior towards her. Also you've seen how Liz always praised the cast of Bewitched but never praised him. So maybe York wasn't such good person as you think.

You quote that they say Liz did not like him not that they (the producers) did not like him. Sorry, but Liz said nice things about DY on The Tom Snyder Radio Show. Monliz, you were just not fortunate enough to hear it.

Monliz
03-29-2020, 10:48 AM
You quote that they say Liz did not like him not that they (the producers) did not like him. Sorry, but Liz said nice things about DY on The Tom Snyder Radio Show. Monliz, you were just not fortunate enough to hear it.

Elizabeth Montgomery never said anything positive about York, besides every time she praised the cast of Bewitched she never mentioned York.

The interview you're talking about never happened and you know it. She never did an interview reunion with York.

York himself said in his book that Liz grew tired of him after the second season. York also said he never talked with Liz after he left Bewitched, while she kept in touch with Sargent.

So your narrative of Liz and York being good friends is fake and nonsense

Willbo
03-29-2020, 02:09 PM
I never said they were good friends. On the radio show EM was cordial and very nice to DY. Just because you did not hear it does not mean it did not happen.

Monliz
03-29-2020, 05:47 PM
I never said they were good friends. On the radio show EM was cordial and very nice to DY. Just because you did not hear it does not mean it did not happen.

The point is you're the only one who has seen that interview, which means you're lying or you dreamed about it.

GentlemanJim
04-01-2020, 03:08 PM
It's really hard to believe that anyone could say that they preferred Sargent over York. Sargent just seemed so synthetic.

I doubt the show would have lasted a full season if Sargent had been the original Darrin.

Monliz
04-03-2020, 07:05 AM
It's really hard to believe that anyone could say that they preferred Sargent over York. Sargent just seemed so synthetic.

I doubt the show would have lasted a full season if Sargent had been the original Darrin.

There are a lot of people who prefer Sargent over York and you have to respect other people's opinions.

You have to understand that not everybody liked York's constant yelling and his overreacting. There are people that preferred Sargent's more relaxed way of playing Darring and his funny sarcasm.

MA
04-03-2020, 07:13 AM
I'm not surprised that Larry Tate got suspended.

GentlemanJim
04-03-2020, 03:34 PM
There are a lot of people who prefer Sargent over York and you have to respect other people's opinions.



Perhaps that's a "Ginger or Mary Ann" type deliberation, people have subjective personal preferences that are hard to dissect. I tend to think that Paul Lynde was a poor choice for Uncle Arthur too. His demeanor was even more grating than York's. (YMMV)

stevea
04-03-2020, 05:45 PM
I don't have a stake in the York vs. Sargent battle, but I do think Paul Lynde had a great character in Uncle Arthur.

merlinjones
04-04-2020, 05:52 AM
I like Dick (York)! : )

GentlemanJim
04-05-2020, 01:30 PM
I do think Paul Lynde had a great character in Uncle Arthur.

I thought he did a good job on Hollywood Squares.