Many years ago now on a few previous Bewitched forums and when fandom was active, we saw a very similar attack against Dick York that you see here now. I won't mention any names, but the same old tired diatribes appeared even then.

Naturally, this bothered Joey York who would read the forums from time to time but never posted. She was, however, in touch with a member or two from those boards. And that's how I met her. Joey had a forum member tell me how she appreciated my support of Dick - which was not hard on my part. I absolutely love Dick York's performances in everything he did. He was a gifted performer.

Long story short I kept in touch with her for a while until life pulled us both in different directions. I do regret losing touch, but such is the way of things. I told her once I felt that Dick and Elizabeth had a complicated relationship, but that they challenged each other while acting and that's why they were so good together in Bewitched. She agreed with me on that.

When Dick's biography was finally publish Joey signed my copy.

And that fateful day when Dick was in the hospital Joey asked Bill Asher to let Dick quit - she knew that his health could no longer take it. She also said that ABC execs came to their house a few days later to see if there was any way York could continue.

The nasty words we've seen here and the ridiculous false history does affect people. Although I believe it is done not because of strong beliefs, but just to cause chaos and hurt. Words do have an affect on people. And I will never stop defending Dick York. I do it for Dick and for Joey who I still miss to this day.

Don't let LT get to you. He's been doing this on this forum for years. He called me a Yorkie probably about 10 years ago and I actually put it up under my name. I was proud of it. Both Liz and Dick York were responsible for the success of that show. I have nothing against Dick Sargent but he wasn't responsible for the success of Bewitched. The show was on it's last legs when he was on. Had no chemistry at all with Liz. It's wonderful that you got to know Dick's wife. Dick always seemed like a nice guy. It was awful what happened to him.

Thank you tcr1701 for posting this. This is beautiful. Joey seemed like a beautiful person. Reading those negative posts had to be difficult especially since most of it is fabricated. Larry Tate and Monliz seemed to be very unhappy people and quite disturbed. Was DY perfect? No, but even with all he went through he was a remarkable human being. The screen chemistry between EM and DY was remarkable. I'm glad Joan realized that also.

Joey was very gratified for all the people who posted support for Dick all those years ago. I think I was the most vocal - as I am here too. It does baffle me that it is still happening 16 years later, though. Creating a nasty and fictionalized history and presenting it as fact is just wrong. Some total fabrications written here have been presented as accurate to newer Bewitched fans or people looking for some history of the show. I am more than happy to help correct that. I am also glad to see others still care too.

I have to admit I have been surprised how mean and cruel these people are. I did not realize how long this has been going on. I am glad to help anyway I can to stop these sick people.

Many years ago now on a few previous Bewitched forums and when fandom was active, we saw a very similar attack against Dick York that you see here now. I won't mention any names, but the same old tired diatribes appeared even then.

Naturally, this bothered Joey York who would read the forums from time to time but never posted. She was, however, in touch with a member or two from those boards. And that's how I met her. Joey had a forum member tell me how she appreciated my support of Dick - which was not hard on my part. I absolutely love Dick York's performances in everything he did. He was a gifted performer.

Long story short I kept in touch with her for a while until life pulled us both in different directions. I do regret losing touch, but such is the way of things. I told her once I felt that Dick and Elizabeth had a complicated relationship, but that they challenged each other while acting and that's why they were so good together in Bewitched. She agreed with me on that.

When Dick's biography was finally publish Joey signed my copy. And you can see the loving and gracious attitude she had.

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And that fateful day when Dick was in the hospital Joey asked Bill Asher to let Dick quit - she knew that his health could no longer take it. She also said that ABC execs came to their house a few days later to see if there was any way York could continue.

The nasty words we've seen here and the ridiculous false history does affect people. Although I believe it is done not because of strong beliefs, but just to cause chaos and hurt. Words do have an affect on people. And I will never stop defending Dick York. I do it for Dick and for Joey who I still miss to this day.

What a nice tribute to the Yorks, tcr! I enjoyed reading this story.

Do not worry about the ridiculous false history LT keeps posting. No-one here buys it. We witnessed the audio clips had been edited, which says everything.

You guys refuse to admit the truths about York, he has stated in his book that he was in love with Liz, he even talked about her leaps, legs and hair in a lecherous way, he said he and Liz got along in the in the first two seasons but then something changed and Liz grew tired of him.

And although York has admitted this you still in denial and refuse to accept it. Now, I didn't say York was a bad person, but he acted badly towards Liz and that's why she wanted him gone, that's why she stay cleared of him since the third season and had no contact with him after he left. What York did is unacceptable, I can't tolerate that inappropriate behavior towards a woman.

As for you "tcr1701", it's even more surprising your conduct, because you have York's book and you know he admitted all those things, but you still defend him at all cost, it's hilarious .

The nasty words we've seen here and the ridiculous false history does affect people. Although I believe it is done not because of strong beliefs, but just to cause chaos and hurt. Words do have an affect on people. And I will never stop defending Dick York. I do it for Dick and for Joey who I still miss to this day.

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Finally figured it out. LT is jealous of DY. LT you are a perverted psycopath. Monliz, how do you think EM would feel about LT comments?

I read more of the thread. It disgusting how LT talks about EM. Her cup size, lots of photos where she has next to nothing on. He even quotes DY as saying she is sex on a stick. You are such a hypocrite.

Dick York wrote:

I first fell in love with Elizabeth Montgomery at leg distance. No that's not a typographical error, it's not long distance. By leg distance. I'd seen her on the Alfred Hitchcock or a Thriller or one of those shows...and I thought "My God, what a pretty dark-haired girl, and those legs, on my God." Hmmm. Confession time,Elizabeth.

She had full lips and dark, soft hair. She was sex all over. Still are, Lizzie. You still are. I've seen you lately, you've still got that certain thing.


This is what is what is laughable called "lecherous." York (as I quoted on a previous thread) also stated he used this to fuel his onscreen performance to make is really look like Darrin loved Samantha. It's called "Method Acting." It's a technique many, many actors use. And it worked for 5 golden years. Bill Asher stated about York (on the Youtube video I also referenced earlier) that "they (Sam & Darrin) were in love and they acted lie it. This was in comparison to Sargent and EM's work.

It should also be noted that Dick didn't write this - he dictated it onto audio cassette. He mentions (included in the final book) that he would send a copy of this to Liz before it was released in case she wanted anything edited out of the book. He mused she wouldn't cancel even half a line.

I read more of the thread...It disgusting

I don't know. I guess "fans" finding her sexy is not a bad thing per se, but I don't really need the lurid details of why on a public forum (which was very uncomfortable to read). I can, again, only say it's a troll campaign to create chaos and attempt to hurt people. I guess "don't feed the trolls" really is sage advice. You'd also think some "pots" would be very cautious about calling "kettles" black.

tcr1701 definitely you're the king of deflecting. We were talking about York's inappropriate behavior towards Elizabeth Montgomery, I refuted you with arguments and facts, and then you changed the subject and made it about Larry tate.

If Larry Tate finds Liz beautiful, what on earth has that to do with York's bad behavior towards Liz?

Every time Larry or me own you in a debate you change the subject, you always deflect when you have no arguments, you're ridiculous.

Tcr1701:"Whenever you get owned in a debate or have no arguments, deflect and change the subject"

Thank you for proving my point. I appreciate your help.

Thanks for keeping deflecting and proving my point, I appreciate your help

Your a lying troll with a perverse obsession to create the impression that York was Bewitched and place him on some pedestal, you have been refuted and repeatedly shown to a both a liar and delusional.

What trash like you think about anything means nothing, but you will NOT be allowed to brainwash and indoctrinate the general fans of Bewitched into believing your lies and untruths about the reality and facts that took place on the set of Bewitched and about the show in general.

Your attempt to silence the truth has failed, all see the facts and know the truth as a result, deal with it, you are all dismissed.

Willbo you are a deviant perverted sick sub human who had perverted interests in Dick York, how are you and your Blow Up Dick York Doll doing?, when is the engagement announcement?, you are one sick perverted puppy, i just pray you are allowed near children!!!!!

I just hope you are considerate enough to use protection with your York Doll, even they have rights you know.

Your mental illness is clear for all to see.!!!

Bewitched fans know the truth and know your lies and delusional fantasy made up trash narratives.

Larry Tate, you are not well. Get back on your meds.

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No wonder why Liz always stayed away from him behind the scenes, when a man acts like this towards a woman it's unacceptable, what a cretin

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No wonder why Liz always stayed away from him behind the scenes, when a man acts like this towards a woman it's unacceptable, what a cretin

Hey, Einstein, that's a publicity photo from "Divided He Falls" - that's York in character as the manic, fun-loving Darrin. The shot is supposed to show Darrin being goofy. Keep this up, though. It's easy to counter your campaign of fake news and gibberish.

It would certainly fit a psychological profile. And explain championing Dick Sargent so vehemently - who, as a gay man is no threat.

A threat to what? Liz always stayed clear of York behind the scenes, and never had any contact with him after he left the show, he had no chance with her.

Ok then, the picture is supposed to show Darrin as the maniac, fun loving, and how is supposed to show Samantha then?

as a supposed "fan" did you even watch that episode? What was Samantha thinking and feeling in the pool scene....what was her ultimate goal? Why did she let Endora split Darrin?

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Dick York wrote:

I first fell in love with Elizabeth Montgomery at leg distance. No that's not a typographical error, it's not long distance. By leg distance. I'd seen her on the Alfred Hitchcock or a Thriller or one of those shows...and I thought "My God, what a pretty dark-haired girl, and those legs, on my God." Hmmm. Confession time,Elizabeth.

She had full lips and dark, soft hair. She was sex all over. Still are, Lizzie. You still are. I've seen you lately, you've still got that certain thing.


This is what is what is laughable called "lecherous." York (as I quoted on a previous thread) also stated he used this to fuel his onscreen performance to make is really look like Darrin loved Samantha. It's called "Method Acting." It's a technique many, many actors use. And it worked for 5 golden years. Bill Asher stated about York (on the Youtube video I also referenced earlier) that "they (Sam & Darrin) were in love and they acted lie it. This was in comparison to Sargent and EM's work.

It should also be noted that Dick didn't write this - he dictated it onto audio cassette. He mentions (included in the final book) that he would send a copy of this to Liz before it was released in case she wanted anything edited out of the book. He mused she wouldn't cancel even half a line.



Actually what York said about Liz is this:

"I first fell in love with Elizabeth Montgomery by leg distance. No, that’s not a typographical error, it’s not long distance. By leg distance. I’d seen her on an Alfred Hitchcock or a Thriller or one of those shows with Tom Poston and I thought, “My God, what a pretty dark-haired girl, and those legs, oh my God.” Hmm. Confession time, Elizabeth."

I walked in to read for Bewitched and Liz was sitting outside the office, too, reading — Memoirs of Anais Nin or, I don’t know, but by some chance I happened to be reading the same thing at the same time. I sat down and said, “Enjoying that?” She unfolded those gorgeous legs and looked at me, and I saw her in person for the first time. She had full lips and dark, soft hair. She was sex all over. Still are, Lizzie. You still are. I’ve seen you lately, you’ve still got that certain thing."

You edited some things to make it look less lecherous than it was.

I can see York having the same face he had on the picture I posted above, when he talked about Liz in his book.

Method acting? what a lame excuse, he was infatuated with Elizabeth Montgomery, he proved it in his book. Then he said Liz grew tired of him, and it's totally understandable, how wouldn't she grow tired of him after his inappropriate behavior?

Seeing the lecherous way he talks about her, and with Frough's statements that York used to moon over her longingly,it's obvious why she grew tired of York and stayed away from him behind the scenes.

You edited some things to make it look less lecherous than it was.

you really want to play this game? I only posted 2 related sections that you referenced about York's comments on her hair, legs and lips.

You guys refuse to admit the truths about York, he has stated in his book that he was in love with Liz, he even talked about her leaps, legs and hair in a lecherous way,

I didn't type the whole chapter. You want the whole book buy one yourself!

From Chapter 8 starting on page 166. There are about 20 paragraphs between these. If there are other quotes you'd like to include, feel free to type the whole thing.

Seeing the lecherous way he talks about her, and with Frough's statements that York used to moon over her longingly,it's obvious why she grew tired of York and stayed away from him behind the scenes.

True - look at her avoiding him in later years.

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you really want to play this game? I only posted 2 related sections that you referenced about York's comments on her hair, legs and lips.


I didn't type the whole chapter. You want the whole book buy one yourself!

From Chapter 8 starting on page 166;

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- there is about 20 paragraphs between these. If there are other quotes you'd like to include, feel free to type the whole thing.

page 168. Any other pages you'd like to see!

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True - look at her avoiding him in later years.

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Frough said Liz stayed away from York all the time except when they were filming scenes together,in the pictures you posted they were filming together so of course Liz wouldn't avoid him while filming, that would be impossible.

Now why don't you show the picture of the page where York says Liz grew tired of him? you know he said that.

funny. I don't remember that part. YOU post it.

You know what's funny? it was YOU who posted it years ago.

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You proved you have York's book, and according to YOU Dick York has said in that book that Elizabeth Montgomery grew tired of him after the second season.

So you've been exposed my friend, now you have no choice but to admit it. :lol:

Now thanks to you we know it's a 100% fact that Liz grew tired of York after the second season. Thanks a lot :)

You know what's funny? it was YOU who posted it years ago.

You proved you have York's book, and according to YOU Dick York has said in that book that Elizabeth Montgomery grew tired of him after the second season.

So you've been exposed my friend, now you have no choice but to admit it. :lol:

Now thanks to you we know it's a 100% fact that Liz grew tired of York after the second season. Thanks a lot :)

Hey! Thanks for that. I must have been wrong back then. I can't find it in the book now. Not sure where I read that....maybe it stuck only in my head from fraudulent writers like you.

I thought she did turn on him. Looks like maybe not now thanks to your research - unless someone can find it in the book - I didn't see it from skimming through those chapters today.

Of course, I may have been referring to William Froug saying she didn't like him (around season 3 when Froug worked there) - you know when he said she was a "tough cookie and nuts" and wanting him fired.

If I added incorrect information I am more than glad to admit it. Thanks again. Looks like EM did not turn on York in season 2. They must have been very close it seems all along. You must be happy now.

Hey! Thanks for that. I must have been wrong back then. I can't find it in the book now. Not sure where I read that....maybe it stuck only in my head from fraudulent writers like you.

I thought she did turn on him. Looks like maybe not now thanks to your research - unless someone can find it in the book - I didn't see it from skimming through those chapters today.

Of course, I may have been referring to William Froug saying she didn't like him (around season 3 when Froug worked there) - you know when he said she was a "tough cookie and nuts" and wanting him fired.

If I added incorrect information I am more than glad to admit it. Thanks again. Looks like EM did not turn on York in season 2. They must have been very close it seems all along. You must be happy now.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Of course you're not gonna post it now because you don't want to admit that Larry Tate and I were right.

Anyways, if you think someone will believe this pathetic excuse you're saying then you're delusional, you've been exposed and there's nothing you can do to change that, I'm sorry :lol:

Liz grew tired of York after the second season, according to York himself :D

Willbo go back and play with your Dick York blow up doll, you are a sick mentally ill freak not fit to interact with human beings of which clearly you are not one.!!!!

Larry Tate, you are not well. Get back on your meds.

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Of course you're not gonna post it now because you don't want to admit that Larry Tate and I were right.

Anyways, if you think someone will believe this pathetic excuse you're saying then you're delusional, you've been exposed and there's nothing you can do to change that, I'm sorry :lol:

Liz grew tired of York after the second season, according to York himself :D

You don't make any sense. You want desperately to prove that EM hated York...but just proved I may have been wrong 8 years ago. That would mean I was wrong and they DID get along. That makes me happy because I like both EM and DY. I am very happy that I may have been wrong - thanks to you!

I cannot find that quote in the book now - it's a long book. If you can find it YOU post and prove me right 8 years ago and wrong today. But thanks to you we all now can believe she never grew tired of him.

tcr1701 how does it feel to be MonLiz's bitch, i heard you squealing like a little piggy all the way over here.

Liz had every reason to grow tired of York what with his disrespectful and harassing behavior on the set, are you still bleating?, you have become a sheeple, :lol::lol::lol::lol::wave::wave:

Hey! Thanks for that. I must have been wrong back then. I can't find it in the book now. Not sure where I read that....maybe it stuck only in my head from fraudulent writers like you.

I thought she did turn on him. Looks like maybe not now thanks to your research - unless someone can find it in the book - I didn't see it from skimming through those chapters today.

Of course, I may have been referring to William Froug saying she didn't like him (around season 3 when Froug worked there) - you know when he said she was a "tough cookie and nuts" and wanting him fired.

If I added incorrect information I am more than glad to admit it. Thanks again. Looks like EM did not turn on York in season 2. They must have been very close it seems all along. You must be happy now.

Did you have a botched lobotomy or something, York in his words in his own book admits she grew tired of York after the second season.

Liz never hated York, she dislikes him for his unacceptable conduct on the set towards her, there there, don't cry , your gooooooooooooing to be alllllllllllllllllllll right............get out more, meet people, join things, if that doesn't work there are always shock treatments that you would benefit from.!!!!!

You don't make any sense. You want desperately to prove that EM hated York...but just proved I may have been wrong 8 years ago. That would mean I was wrong and they DID get along. That makes me happy because I like both EM and DY. I am very happy that I may have been wrong - thanks to you!

I cannot find that quote in the book now - it's a long book. If you can find it YOU post and prove me right 8 years ago and wrong today. But thanks to you we all now can believe she never grew tired of him.

Larry Tate have we hit a nerve? You seem quite defensive today. Your sick and perverted descriptions of EM are disgusting. I am sure EM would agree.

You don't make any sense. You want desperately to prove that EM hated York...but just proved I may have been wrong 8 years ago. That would mean I was wrong and they DID get along. That makes me happy because I like both EM and DY. I am very happy that I may have been wrong - thanks to you!

I cannot find that quote in the book now - it's a long book. If you can find it YOU post and prove me right 8 years ago and wrong today. But thanks to you we all now can believe she never grew tired of him.

More recently you said it again, you said that York stated in his book that he and Liz were close but only early in the show, this comment you made wasn't 8 years ago, it was just months ago. :D

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You've been exposed again

Just stop embarrassing yourself :lol:

You definitely should get a refund from your brain surgeon, they were acting in the scene, they were playing characters not being themselves or real people.

York himself said they got along ok the first two seasons and then they didn't.!!!!

Once again you have been educated, you are dismissed.......my bill is once again in the mail.

Darrin and Samantha were characters actors and actresses played, they were not actually one and the same...................there there silly boy.....now don't you feel better now.!!!


as a supposed "fan" did you even watch that episode? What was Samantha thinking and feeling in the pool scene....what was her ultimate goal? Why did she let Endora split Darrin?

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Well i suppose being attracted to and flattering a beautiful woman would be perverted and disgusting to a perverted & disgusting boy boy like you, did you get a chance to patch the holes in your Dick York blow up doll, we wouldn't want you to get frustrated again now would we.

Larry Tate have we hit a nerve? You seem quite defensive today. Your sick and perverted descriptions of EM are disgusting. I am sure EM would agree.

Oh yeah you love Elizabeth Montgomery, you love her to death literally.

Your the one that said she was ugly and mediocre looking, unattractive and basically described her appearance as Yuck.!!

But i guess your blow up doll of York has certain compensations for your finding such a Beautiful a woman as her so unappealing.

Again the truth and the facts are ALL we are interested in, not some agenda driven sick pablum you are trying to feed Bewitched fans everywhere.

York himself said in his own words in his own book that Liz had no use for him after season two.
How does it feel to be my Bitch :lol::lol::lol::lol::happyface:happyface:happyface:wave::wave::wave:

[QUOTE=tcr1701;5692443]I just explained this....I HOPE I was wrong 8 YEARS AGO and that they did get along - I like both EM & DY. It's a nice thought they were pals on set. You'd think you'd try to prove me right 8 years ago. But you try to prove me right three years ago? So what do you need to believe? Pick one and stick with it.

I just explained this....I HOPE I was wrong 8 YEARS AGO and that they did get along - I like both EM & DY. It's a nice thought they were pals on set. You'd think you'd try to prove me right 8 years ago. But you try to prove me right three years ago? So what do you need to believe? Pick one and stick with it.



In the second picture we can see that you made that comment on 9-17-2019, which means it was six months ago, not three years ago. Can't you count? :lol:

You're trying too hard, but you're failing each time :)

In the second picture we can see that you made that comment on 9-17-2019, which means it was six months ago, not three years ago. Can't you count? :lol:

You're trying too hard, but you're failing each time :)

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Thanks again - you have been very helpful lately. I will correct that date in my post.

A real man would make compliments about a woman and not talk about her cup size and how he fantasized about her. What you said and how you described it was vile and sick. Your obsession with her is not normal especially since she has been dead for 25 years.

Thanks again - you have been very helpful lately. I will correct that date in my post.

It doesn't matter if you edite it now, I'm gonna post the picture of your original comment on that thread too.

You can't hide the truth :)

tcr1701 5 years ago you said that York stated in his book that Liz grew tired of him after the second season, and then you confirmed it again 6 months ago.

But now you're trying to convince us in an embarrassing way that you were wrong 5 years ago, you were wrong 6 months ago, and you realized just today that York didn't really say that .. the day you've been exposed is the day you suddenly "realized" you were "wrong" . I can't stop laughing :lol: :lol: :lol:

Really, I'm laughing my head off right now, this is hilarious :lol:

Oh yeah you love Elizabeth Montgomery, you love her to death literally. Your the one that said she was ugly and mediocre looking, unattractive and basically described her appearance as Yuck.!!

Now you are lying. Please post the original link to any thread where I wrote that. I know I did not because I don't believe it - she was very beautiful - and if I did think that about anyone I would never publicly post it.

He has become unhinged and needs psycological help.

what truth? PROVE ME WRONG. Prove Liz and Dick got along. I would love that. This isn't a contest. I don't need to be right. You do. I will add a note for you on that post.


The truth is Liz grew tired of York since the third season because of York's inappropriate behavior towards her. You want proofs? here you have them :D

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None of your silly excuses is gonna change that you've been exposed ;):lol:

A real man would make compliments about a woman and not talk about her cup size and how he fantasized about her. What you said and how you described it was vile and sick. Your obsession with her is not normal especially since she has been dead for 25 years.

Are you talking about Dick York and the lecherous way he talked about Liz in his book?

So you are ok with what LT says about EM? Monliz you are a hypocrite as well and a troll. Go back under your bridge.

So you are ok with what LT says about EM? Monliz you are a hypocrite as well and a troll. Go back under your bridge.



The reason I don't respect York as a person is because he had inappropriate behavior towards Liz, what York did was so bad that Liz stayed away from him behind the scenes and wanted him fired of the show.

And the way he talks about her in his book it proves how lecherous he was and how badly he treated Liz on the set.

Larry Tate didn't treat Liz badly on the set, you want to deflect and make the debate about him because you wan't to defend York butt you don't know how to do it.

Liz didn't have a problem with Larry Tate, she had a problem with York, because it was York who bothered her, not Larry Tate, so stop deflecting.

York's comments were tame compared to yours, I mean LT's, which get detailed and graphic. Barry Pintar's documentary said Liz disliked him because his absences due to back pain ticked her off. And he was quoting his friend Bill Asher.

Froug said York looked at her lovingly which ticked her off. He also said any man who loved her "was in trouble." So you continually spin a false narrative of "sexual harassment" that never happened. But I suspect you know that already.

I didn't he say York sexually harassed her, he made her feel uncomfortable with his bad behavior, if his behavior wasn't bad why did Liz stop being close with him after the second season?

According to York himself Liz grew tired of him after the second year, so if she grew tired of him it was because of something York did to her, and seeing the lecherous way he talks about her in his book, it's pretty clear why Liz got tired of him


Frough said Liz stayed away from York all the time except when they were filming together, this shuts down your narrative that they were good friends and got along.

According to York himself Liz grew tired of him after the second year, so if she grew tired of him it was because of something York did to her, and seeing the lecherous way he talks about her in his book, it's pretty clear why Liz got tired of him


Frough said Liz stayed away from York all the time except when they were filming together, this shuts down your narrative that they were good friends and got along.

Earlier you accused me of being the one to quote York as saying Liz grew tired of him from a post in 2012 (which I thought was true at the time). Then you said I was wrong because I can't find that quote in his book today (which I can't - doesn't mean it's not there. York jumps around in time in the book). So was I right or wrong? Or am I right and wrong at the same time causing a wrinkle in time? You keep forgetting the narrative you want to spin. Do you want to prove she liked him or didn't? I can't tell anymore. Neither can you it seems.

Froug said nothing of the kind. He said only that York was" smitten" with her and it "annoyed" her and that he looked at her lovingly while resting on his back board. Do I need to post the link to his interview again?

Earlier you accused me of being the one to quote York as saying Liz grew tired of him from a post in 2012 (which I thought was true at the time). Then you said I was wrong because I can't find that quote in his book today (which I can't - doesn't mean it's not there. York jumps around in time in the book). So was I right or wrong? Or am I right and wrong at the same time causing a wrinkle in time? You keep forgetting the narrative you want to spin. Do you want to prove she liked him or didn't? I can't tell anymore. Neither can you it seems.

Froug said nothing of the kind. He said only that York was" smitten" with her and it "annoyed" her and that he looked at her lovingly while resting on his back board. Do I need to post the link to his interview again?

Liz didn't like York, and according to York she grew tired of him after the second season, what did I say that made you think I changed? What are you talking about? I think you need to go to sleep already

About Froug, he said in his book that Liz stayed clear of him all the time except when they where filming together, his book is called How I Escaped from Gilligan's Island: And Other Misadventures of a Hollywood Writer-Producer
Frough also said that every time York and Liz finished filming a scene together, they moved into separate worlds

From everything that has been posted I believe the one thing that Liz was irritated the most at would be DY absences. I think their relationship was like most working relationships. The Ashers were not stupid. If they had tried to get rid of DY after the third season, which has not been proven, Liz and Bill would have lost a lot of money since DS was not as popular and the show probably would have been cancelled sooner.

If Frough said Elizabeth Montgomery avoided York all the time behind the scenes in the third season, then I wasn't wrong when I quoted York saying Liz grew tired of him after the second season, so why are you fighting me then?


Tcr1701 when did I say you were wrong? it's you who said you were wrong and that you realized York didn't really say Liz grew tired of him.

I don't believe you when you say you realized today that York didn't say that.

I believe your comments from 5 years ago, and the one you made 6 months ago, when you said that according to York she grew tired of him after the second season.

And that post wasn't from 2012, as you can see in the picture it was in 2015, and the second one was 6 months ago

You really need to go to sleep already, you have no idea what are you saying anymore, it's been a tough day for you because you've been exposed and now you need to rest, just go.

From everything that has been posted I believe the one thing that Liz was irritated the most at would be DY absences. I think their relationship was like most working relationships. The Ashers were not stupid. If they had tried to get rid of DY after the third season, which has not been proven, Liz and Bill would have lost a lot of money since DS was not as popular and the show probably would have been cancelled sooner.

I think York missing episodes is the second reason why Liz didn't like York.

The first reason why she didn't like him is because he was in love with her and made her feel uncomfortable with his bad behavior.

According to York Liz grew tired of him after the second season, and at that point York didn't miss episodes at all, he started missing episodes constantly in the forth season, so the reason that made Liz grew tired of York after the the second year couldn't be his absences , it was because of his inappropriate behavior.

Whatever you need to believe to keep the fantasy alive.

you've been exposed

You and Larry tare sure do like to use this and/or similar phrases a lot...very interesting...

You're deflecting again, every time you get owned in a debate you deflect and change the subject, you're funny, it's getting more and more difficult to take you seriously :lol:

Now just go to sleep, I mean really, you need a rest

You're deflecting again, every time you get owned in a debate you deflect and change the subject, you're funny, it's getting more and more difficult to take you seriously :lol:

Now just go to sleep, I mean really, you need a rest

where have I read this before...very interesting...

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your point? This conversation has already been had twice here.And you proved NOTHING as usual.

your point? This conversation has already been had twice here.And you proved NOTHING as usual.

Oh yes I did :)

Yes MonLiz has been very helpful again to you in proving she is right and you are Wrooooong!!

Thanks again - you have been very helpful lately. I will correct that date in my post.

You and your Dick York life size blow up doll do not together equal a man, that just makes you a pervert!!!
The fact you do not like women is your issue, normal men like i do.

No tcr1701 Your just a liar and a troll, you obfuscate, deflect, ly and then contradict yourself in a argumentative manner.

I sincerely do not think you should get help, you are beyond help.!!!

You said it, you are sick and talking out of both sides of your mouth upside down.

Willbo you are beyond help, Freak!!

York himself in his own words confirms all that Monliz has stated about Yorks unacceptable behavior on the set, Liz herself described him a drippy and kind of all wet, clearly she thought he was creepy as well.
It is obvious to all that it was his harassing behavior towards Liz on the set that caused her to shun him, his absences were costly and irritating but clearly secondary.

York was clearly a bit of a space cadet, kind of out there and not always in control, in time Liz saw him as someone to avoid.

tcr1701 you are a liar and a coward with your implying two people are one when they are two totally distinct posters.
More deflecting and lies from you as that is all that you have.

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In this page York talks about how he enjoyed having Elizabeth Montgomery sitting in his lap and hugging him, it's insane how lecherous he was with Liz, he was really infatuated.

No wonder why Liz grew tired of him, he must have bothered her a lot, York was a creep

Thanks again Tcr1701 for showing how cretin York was

Monliz proved that you are her Bitch and she made you squeal like a little piggy, your wrong she is right and she has the goods on you, you been done and dismissed.:crazy::lol::lol::lol::lol::wave::wave:

your point? This conversation has already been had twice here.And you proved NOTHING as usual.

Monliz proved that you are her Bitch and she made you squeal like a little piggy, your wrong she is right and she has the goods on you, you been done and dismissed.:crazy::lol::lol::lol::lol::wave::wave:
Still jealous of York ha? :lol:

Can this thread be locked?

Can this thread be locked?

I hope so. Locked or deleted. My apologies for adding to the chaos.

Can this thread be locked?

I've been reading all these threads with these arguments over the Darrins--I have to say, it's fascinating. I really doubt all the participants are ever going to agree.

If you continue the debate (there is no forum rule violation in disagreeing), maybe you could turn the name-calling down a notch (because name-calling is a rule violation).

I don't moderate the Bewitched forum, but when you're posting, please remember, any member can (and does) read these threads.

I hope so. Locked or deleted. My apologies for adding to the chaos.

I accept your apology.

I've been reading all these threads with these arguments over the Darrins--I have to say, it's fascinating. I really doubt all the participants are ever going to agree.

If you continue the debate (there is no forum rule violation in disagreeing), maybe you could turn the name-calling down a notch (because name-calling is a rule violation).

I don't moderate the Bewitched forum, but when you're posting, please remember, any member can (and does) read these threads.

I'm just posting my two cents in this thread and that's it.

Personally i think this thread should be deleted, it's presence serves no further purpose as my and Monliz's positions on the issues have clearly prevailed and been confirmed and corroborated as fact, but that is up to the moderators who have been absent from the discussion till now, do your job and delete it with my approval.

Personally i think this thread should be deleted, it's presence serves no further purpose, but that is up to the moderators who have been absent from the discussion till now, do your job and delete it with my approval.

I agree. Either that, or lock it.

I agree. My apologies if I have offended anyone.

I agree. My apologies if I have offended anyone.

I wasn’t offended at all.

I wasn't either. TJ moderates the Bewitched forum--he can lock or delete this thread if he chooses, or if someone asks him to.

Again, I was just pointing out that name-calling is a rule violation, and to please avoid it. The debate about the actors isn't, and can continue if the participants want it to.

Maybe one thing all of us can agree on is that we really enjoy Bewitched!

Amen.

Maybe one thing all of us can agree on is that we really enjoy Bewitched!

Not really. I’m just here for the fighting :wave:

I wasn't either. TJ moderates the Bewitched forum--he can lock or delete this thread if he chooses, or if someone asks him to.

Again, I was just pointing out that name-calling is a rule violation, and to please avoid it. The debate about the actors isn't, and can continue if the participants want it to.

Maybe one thing all of us can agree on is that we really enjoy Bewitched!

Thanks - I was thinking the same thing. The behind the scenes history isn't as important as the final product which was a fun show with all the cast changes. There will never be a definitive answer or proof on this - just strong opinions.

Thanks - I was thinking the same thing. The behind the scenes history isn't as important as the final product which was a fun show with all the cast changes. There will never be a definitive answer or proof on this - just strong opinions.

Actually there is a definitive proof and it's in York's book, he said Liz grew tired of him after the second season.

Also as we saw in his book, he talks about Elizabeth Montgomery in a lecherous way several times.

Now the debate is over, and you lost, you wanted to prove York and Liz were good friends but you failed. You lost the debate, good bye.:)