On today's Antenna TV episode they went to a strip club for Mrs. Garretts birthday and all of them ordered drinks. My first thought was no way are Blair & Jo over 21, but then I figured this was back when it was still 18 to drink? It's just weird seeing them ordering drinks like that when they're still so young!

The whole episode was kind of weird. It's funny how they act like it was so scandalous when Blair's boyfriend was a stripper to pay for his med school. Especially Jo's reaction to it. My God she acted like it was the worst thing a guy could do and she practically demanded Blair not see him anymore. Way over the top and strange lol.

Today, I doubt it would be such a big deal to any of them. Mrs. Garrett was the only one who didn't see the big fuss....and I loved her reaction when Jo asked how she'd feel if her boyfriend was a stripper. :)

Oh, did the drinking age used to be 18? If you and Retro remember that, sounds like you two are maybe the same age? :grr: (all in good fun :lol:)

The whole episode was kind of weird. It's funny how they act like it was so scandalous when Blair's boyfriend was a stripper to pay for his med school. Especially Jo's reaction to it. My God she acted like it was the worst thing a guy could do and she practically demanded Blair not see him anymore. Way over the top and strange lol.

Really? I think of Blair as being so "extremely right wing" about this. She took Sue Ann's midwestern conservatism to the max here. I don't remember anything about Jo being offended/bothered in the least. Interesting.

Oh, did the drinking age used to be 18? If you and Retro remember that, sounds like you two are maybe the same age? :grr: (all in good fun :lol:)


Really? I think of Blair as being so "extremely right wing" about this. She took Sue Ann's midwestern conservatism to the max here. I don't remember anything about Jo being offended/bothered in the least. Interesting.


I think it was somewhere in the mid 80's that the drinking age upped from 18 to 21 so this episode must have been filmed right before the change. And yes, i'm up there in age lol. In a few weeks I say goodbye forever to my 40's and hello to my 50's...hence the 1970 in my screenname. :eek:

Jo went a little overboard about the whole thing and practically SCREAMING at Blair of how wrong it is for him to be a stripper and what a "creep" he was. Even Mrs. G was telling Jo to calm the heck down.
She seemed a little too bothered by the whole thing, especially since it was Blair's boyfriend and had nothing to do with her which is even what Mrs. G said to her. Her reaction was just over the top and weird...especially since she was snapping pics of the strippers when she was there at the club. :lol:

I don't think it was strange for Jo to act that way. She's always gets angry when someone tries hurting one of her friends. She tries being the protector of others. From what I gathered of the episode, Jo was under the impression Cliff was being deceitful to Blair in a cruel way and possibly two timing Blair. It probably reminded her of Chad and how that guy was towards Blair.

Wow, that really is weird! I mean I binged the series (except for disliked episodes I skip) a year or two ago, and I remember nothing of this about Jo. All I remember is Blair seemingly doing a 180 and it being SO weird.

The whole episode was kind of weird. It's funny how they act like it was so scandalous when Blair's boyfriend was a stripper to pay for his med school. Especially Jo's reaction to it. My God she acted like it was the worst thing a guy could do and she practically demanded Blair not see him anymore. Way over the top and strange lol.

Today, I doubt it would be such a big deal to any of them. Mrs. Garrett was the only one who didn't see the big fuss....and I loved her reaction when Jo asked how she'd feel if her boyfriend was a stripper. :)


MRS G is simply the best! When JO asks her, what would she do if her boyfriend was a stripper, she just says: "let me think...":lol::lol::lol:

I am in that age range. When I was 18, I could drink legally for 2 months before it was 19. Then I was 19 and could drink legally for two months before it was raised to 21. Since I grew up in NY state, the same laws would apply.

Different states had different laws. I got trashed on my senior high school trip in Virginia and it was completely legal to do so. Ordered pictures of a beer while carousing the bars unsupervised by teachers. This was high school, not college.

I don't think it was strange for Jo to act that way. She's always gets angry when someone tries hurting one of her friends. She tries being the protector of others. From what I gathered of the episode, Jo was under the impression Cliff was being deceitful to Blair in a cruel way and possibly two timing Blair. It probably reminded her of Chad and how that guy was towards Blair.

Huh? Jo was the one who got the other girls in trouble. She was the one who hot wired the school van and stole it. She was the one who shoplifted and got Mrs. Garrett in trouble.

Funny that Blair was upset that her boyfriend was a stripper since she was so for "experimentation" in the first season. And she was perfectly willing to sneak off with Nancy O's boyfriend in Season 2 without telling Nancy O.

I don't think it was strange for Jo to act that way. She's always gets angry when someone tries hurting one of her friends. She tries being the protector of others. From what I gathered of the episode, Jo was under the impression Cliff was being deceitful to Blair in a cruel way and possibly two timing Blair. It probably reminded her of Chad and how that guy was towards Blair.

I get that it's Jo's personality to be the protector and voices her opinions when she sees wrongdoings, but her whole reaction to Cliff's work was way over the top. She was even standing right there when he explained to Blair that it was just a job 1 day a week to pay for med school and he has nothing to do with the fawning customers.
And he explained rationally that 1 night of work makes as much as 40 hours a week working where he could spend that extra time on school. All of it sounded perfectly logical and nothing deceitful but after he left, Jo still continues to call him a "creep" and shouts at Blair to stop seeing him. I just didn't like how she acted in that whole scene and I found it bizarre.
Also, it does seem out of character for either of them to bring Mrs. G to a male strip club for her birthday in the first place. It just doesn't seem like something either Jo or Blair would think of doing for her. (Maybe Natalie and Tootie lol) The whole episode is pretty convoluted to make the stripper story work.

I get that it's Jo's personality to be the protector and voices her opinions when she sees wrongdoings, but her whole reaction to Cliff's work was way over the top. She was even standing right there when he explained to Blair that it was just a job 1 day a week to pay for med school and he has nothing to do with the fawning customers.
And he explained rationally that 1 night of work makes as much as 40 hours a week working where he could spend that extra time on school. All of it sounded perfectly logical and nothing deceitful but after he left, Jo still continues to call him a "creep" and shouts at Blair to stop seeing him. I just didn't like how she acted in that whole scene and I found it bizarre.
Also, it does seem out of character for either of them to bring Mrs. G to a male strip club for her birthday in the first place. It just doesn't seem like something either Jo or Blair would think of doing for her. (Maybe Natalie and Tootie lol) The whole episode is pretty convoluted to make the stripper story work.

Natalie would definitely take Mrs. G. to a male stripper show, but she was too young at the time the episode aired.

I get that it's Jo's personality to be the protector and voices her opinions when she sees wrongdoings, but her whole reaction to Cliff's work was way over the top. She was even standing right there when he explained to Blair that it was just a job 1 day a week to pay for med school and he has nothing to do with the fawning customers.
And he explained rationally that 1 night of work makes as much as 40 hours a week working where he could spend that extra time on school. All of it sounded perfectly logical and nothing deceitful

Yeah, you'd expect Jo, who is street-smart, and who comes from a low-income neighborhood, and where no one in her family was able to go to college, and her mom has burned herself out on 2 jobs for years, to understand.


Also, it does seem out of character for either of them to bring Mrs. G to a male strip club for her birthday in the first place. It just doesn't seem like something either Jo or Blair would think of doing for her. (Maybe Natalie and Tootie lol) The whole episode is pretty convoluted to make the stripper story work.

Yes, I agree. I think Nancy and Molly would have taken her in a heartbeat! Boy-crazy Nancy would think it's "a gas" (to use an "oldies phrase", haha) to get Mrs. Garrett out to a male strip club, and Molly would totally be all about taking Mrs. Garrett there where they can watch men take off their clothes for all the women in the house and for the men to be the ones exploited for once! lol

(Oh, and Happy Upcoming Birthday! :woohoo: )

Natalie would definitely take Mrs. G. to a male stripper show, but she was too young at the time the episode aired.

Yep, and I could see the episode working much better had Natalie and Tootie taken her. They should've shelved that script for a couple of more seasons and dusted it off when they got older.
Then again, I don't think Natalie would've had a problem with it at all. Maybe Tootie would if it was her boyfriend...but even then, Natalie would've had the opposite reaction as Jo and tell her to keep dating him.....or else she will. :lol:

Yeah, you'd expect Jo, who is street-smart, and who comes from a low-income neighborhood, and where no one in her family was able to go to college, and her mom has burned herself out on 2 jobs for years, to understand.




Yes, I agree. I think Nancy and Molly would have taken her in a heartbeat! Boy-crazy Nancy would think it's "a gas" (to use an "oldies phrase", haha) to get Mrs. Garrett out to a male strip club, and Molly would totally be all about taking Mrs. Garrett there where they can watch men take off their clothes for all the women in the house and for the men to be the ones exploited for once! lol

(Oh, and Happy Upcoming Birthday! :woohoo: )

Yes, they could've brought them back for that episode to be the ones to have the idea to bring Mrs. G there and then Blair sees the boyfriend there. It would've been more logical.
Not that Blair & Jo are sticks in the mud...it just doesn't seem like something either would ever conceive as a gift for Mrs. G.

(Thanks for the Bday wish....it's a bit unnerving to realize that i'm now closer to Mrs. G's age than the girls. :lol:)

Oh, did the drinking age used to be 18? If you and Retro remember that, sounds like you two are maybe the same age? :grr: (all in good fun :lol:)


Listen here, sonny. Back in my day, the drinking age was six, and the smoking age was negative four. We played our victrolas by candlelight, because we were saving our gasoline for the invention of the automobile. We only watched The Facts of Life when the Paramount Broadcasting Zephyr flew over the neighborhood, and we liked it that way! Now get off my lawn! *shakes cane weakly*

Listen here, sonny. Back in my day, the drinking age was six, and the smoking age was negative four. We played our victrolas by candlelight, because we were saving our gasoline for the invention of the automobile. We only watched The Facts of Life when the Paramount Broadcasting Zephyr flew over the neighborhood, and we liked it that way! Now get off my lawn! *shakes cane weakly*


WHAT?!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

WHAT?!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Oh, I'm mostly kidding. Although Paramount Pictures did experiment with broadcasting television via blimp in the 1940s and 1950s. This was a bit before The Facts of Life, and Diff'rent Strokes was only in its third season. :lol:

Yes, they could've brought them back for that episode to be the ones to have the idea to bring Mrs. G there and then Blair sees the boyfriend there. It would've been more logical.
Not that Blair & Jo are sticks in the mud...it just doesn't seem like something either would ever conceive as a gift for Mrs. G.

(Thanks for the Bday wish....it's a bit unnerving to realize that i'm now closer to Mrs. G's age than the girls. :lol:)

Well, all the girls are now at Mrs. G's age she was when she started the series.

Yep, and I could see the episode working much better had Natalie and Tootie taken her. They should've shelved that script for a couple of more seasons and dusted it off when they got older.
Then again, I don't think Natalie would've had a problem with it at all. Maybe Tootie would if it was her boyfriend...but even then, Natalie would've had the opposite reaction as Jo and tell her to keep dating him.....or else she will. :lol:

If Natalie went, she would be taking the dancers to the backroom for a lap dance and would ask him to take her virginity.

If Natalie went, she would be taking the dancers to the backroom for a lap dance and would ask him to take her virginity.

:lol:

Well, maybe not the "take her virginity" part. Natalie waited until she was in a committed, long-term relationship with Snake, so it doesn't seem like she would lose her virginity to a random stranger, IMO.

:lol:

Well, maybe not the "take her virginity" part. Natalie waited until she was in a committed, long-term relationship with Snake, so it doesn't seem like she would lose her virginity to a random stranger, IMO.

Just going by how Mindy went about to lose her virginity. She wanted to loose her virginity to see how it felt before Natalie did in fiction.

Just going by how Mindy went about to lose her virginity. She wanted to loose her virginity to see how it felt before Natalie did in fiction.

Did Mindy Cohn actually SAY that?! I sure hope she was joking because I can't believe she would go and lose her virginity just to beat her fictional character from doing it. That's pretty bizarre...but then again it is Hollywood and they live by a whole different set of rules from the rest of us....But still---I just can't wrap my head around that one. It's crazy! :crazy:

Did Mindy Cohn actually SAY that?! I sure hope she was joking because I can't believe she would go and lose her virginity just to beat her fictional character from doing it. That's pretty bizarre...but then again it is Hollywood and they live by a whole different set of rules from the rest of us....But still---I just can't wrap my head around that one. It's crazy! :crazy:

Mindy talks about how she lost her virginity here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CY5NamkPFA

I don't think it was strange for Jo to act that way. She's always gets angry when someone tries hurting one of her friends. She tries being the protector of others. From what I gathered of the episode, Jo was under the impression Cliff was being deceitful to Blair in a cruel way and possibly two timing Blair. It probably reminded her of Chad and how that guy was towards Blair.

I think Blair was more of the protector, especially toward the younger girls. She tried to keep Tootie away from pot and alcohol even if Blair and Sue Ann/Jo was using it. Blair was the only student who went up with Mrs. Garrett to council Molly over her parents separation/divorce. Ironically Lisa's real parents were getting a divorce at this time.

I think Blair was more of the protector, especially toward the younger girls. She tried to keep Tootie away from pot and alcohol even if Blair and Sue Ann/Jo was using it. Blair was the only student who went up with Mrs. Garrett to council Molly over her parents separation/divorce. Ironically Lisa's real parents were getting a divorce at this time.


I couldn't agree with you anymore: BLAIR was always protecting the younger ones (especially on season 1). She was definitely the girl with the 'heart of gold' (despite the fact that she is described as 'spoiled and shallow') and no one can convince me otherwise!
JO on the other hand was kind and sensitive, but too tough for my taste!:lol:

Mindy talks about how she lost her virginity here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CY5NamkPFA

Thanks for that clip. I have to say that was a very interesting story she shared and way more informative than I expected. Not many people share their detailed cherry popping story on stage to a crowd! :lol:

So she didn't have sex because her character was going to. She had sex because she wanted to and afterwards felt "why not let Natalie get popped too?"....That makes much more sense then how you mentioned it above.

Saying "she wanted to lose her virginity to see how it felt before Natalie did in fiction" sounds like she read the script that Natalie was getting devirginized and ran out to get laid first. That would be psychotic behavior lol.

I think Blair was more of the protector, especially toward the younger girls. She tried to keep Tootie away from pot and alcohol even if Blair and Sue Ann/Jo was using it.

She didn't protest Jo drinking beer, and Blair herself got French "booze" (wine, lol) over the summer and drank it on campus in the basement with Jo and Nat.


Blair was the only student who went up with Mrs. Garrett to council Molly over her parents separation/divorce.

Nancy or Cindy might have if the writers hadn't had them go home before the second act.

Thanks for that clip. I have to say that was a very interesting story she shared and way more informative than I expected. Not many people share their detailed cherry popping story on stage to a crowd! :lol:

:eek:

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So she didn't have sex because her character was going to. She had sex because she wanted to and afterwards felt "why not let Natalie get popped too?"....That makes much more sense then how you mentioned it above.

Saying "she wanted to lose her virginity to see how it felt before Natalie did in fiction" sounds like she read the script that Natalie was getting devirginized and ran out to get laid first. That would be psychotic behavior lol.

Ah, thanks for clearing it up; I was wondering too, lol.

She didn't protest Jo drinking beer, and Blair herself got French "booze" (wine, lol) over the summer and drank it on campus in the basement with Jo and Nat.




Nancy or Cindy might have if the writers hadn't had them go home before the second act.

Jo and Blair were the same age on the show (even though Nancy M. and Lisa are 3 years younger). They would do things together and have mischef as teen do (as witness with Sue Ann smoking pot), but she was very protective that the pre-teen or early pre-teen girls.

With Molly's parents divorce, Blair would have made the best choice since her mother had been married and divorced 3 times. We never heard anything about Nancy O's parents and only got a spattering of hint of what Cindy's homelife was like, except her father seemed to be more into her life than her mother. Also Lisa's parents were going through a divorce at that time so maybe the writer's thought Lisa would be the best to be the older girl to council Molly.

With Molly's parents divorce, Blair would have made the best choice since her mother had been married and divorced 3 times. We never heard anything about Nancy O's parents and only got a spattering of hint of what Cindy's homelife was like, except her father seemed to be more into her life than her mother. Also Lisa's parents were going through a divorce at that time so maybe the writer's thought Lisa would be the best to be the older girl to council Molly.

I think they thought Blair was the best choice simply because Lisa was the breakout character of all the girls. Their thinking was probably, any chance to put Blair front and center, DO IT. lol

Nancy (showing her sensitive side in this episode) and Cindy (a true blue friend who's a child of divorce) would have been great contenders, if only they hadn't been gone by this point in the episode.

I think they thought Blair was the best choice simply because Lisa was the breakout character of all the girls. Their thinking was probably, any chance to put Blair front and center, DO IT. lol

Nancy (showing her sensitive side in this episode) and Cindy (a true blue friend who's a child of divorce) would have been great contenders, if only they hadn't been gone by this point in the episode.


I agree with you 100%: BLAIR was definitely the best choice since she became the main character (despite the fact that NANCY was cast as the main one originally) and being she herself a child from divorced parents, she could relate to any kid who went through the same, and give them advice. :wave: