With all the posts about the Lost Girls lately I got stoked to go back and watch and episode tonight.

This episode is tragic because it showed it WAS possible to have Jo and the Lost Girls on the show at the same time and make it work.

Yeah Cindy and Sue Anne didn't have the biggest roles here but on another week they could have.

I got warm feels when it ended with the girls gathered around the table helping Tootie...even though Jo was sitting in for Molly it FELT like Season One.

What could have been if NBC hadn't been so short sighted *sigh*

With all the posts about the Lost Girls lately I got stoked to go back and watch and episode tonight.

This episode is tragic because it showed it WAS possible to have Jo and the Lost Girls on the show at the same time and make it work.

Yeah Cindy and Sue Anne didn't have the biggest roles here but on another week they could have.

I got warm feels when it ended with the girls gathered around the table helping Tootie...even though Jo was sitting in for Molly it FELT like Season One.

What could have been if NBC hadn't been so short sighted *sigh*

Yes.

One of the things I liked very much about Season Two, and even the first half of Season Three, is that we still got to see the Lost Girls. "Gossip" gave a pretty major role to Nancy; if more episodes had been like this, there would have been more of a feeling of a real school.

Instead, we got too many episodes like "Best Sister", where the roles of the girls were so twisted they didn't even feel like the writers' original intent. And the Lost Girls were gone, replaced by characters like Miko and Princess Alexandra, who had far less depth to them, and who were just clones of earlier ideas.

It would have been really nice to have Molly involved in "Gossip", or even "Pretty Babies", where her interest in photography could have been featured... but by then it was too late.

Tragedy? Gossip is the best Ep of season 2 for sure. They def could’ve had all lost girls and Jo as regulars.

Yes.

One of the things I liked very much about Season Two, and even the first half of Season Three, is that we still got to see the Lost Girls. "Gossip" gave a pretty major role to Nancy; if more episodes had been like this, there would have been more of a feeling of a real school.

Instead, we got too many episodes like "Best Sister", where the roles of the girls were so twisted they didn't even feel like the writers' original intent. And the Lost Girls were gone, replaced by characters like Miko and Princess Alexandra, who had far less depth to them, and who were just clones of earlier ideas.

It would have been really nice to have Molly involved in "Gossip", or even "Pretty Babies", where her interest in photography could have been featured... but by then it was too late.

Kim did look a little awkward with a camera while Molly was much more natural with it.

Kim did look a little awkward with a camera while Molly was much more natural with it.

I don't doubt Molly knew how to use a camera, since so much of these characters were drawn from the actresses' real lives.

I got warm feels when it ended with the girls gathered around the table helping Tootie...even though Jo was sitting in for Molly it FELT like Season One.

What are you talking about? Molly was in the scene. Does she not appear in your DVD copy? :) Where she comes into the cafeteria to join her friends and she actually has a few lines.

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Just kidding. RetroGuy2000 worked up that beautiful artwork in 2018. :)

What are you talking about? Molly was in the scene. Does she not appear in your DVD copy? :) Where she comes into the cafeteria to join her friends and she actually has a few lines.

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Hahahaha! Exactly. :lol::lol::lol::lol:


(For the record, the photo is my Photoshop work: a composite of "Gossip" and "The New Girl, Part 2". Call it "Gossip Girl, Part 2". ;) )

Hahahaha! Exactly. :lol::lol::lol::lol:


(For the record, the photo is my Photoshop work: a composite of "Gossip" and "The New Girl, Part 2". Call it "Gossip Girl, Part 2". ;) )

By the way I like your alternate universe spinoff for EASTLAND ACADEMY...dying to hear what the premise would be!

What are you talking about? Molly was in the scene. Does she not appear in your DVD copy? :) Where she comes into the cafeteria to join her friends and she actually has a few lines.

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:lol:

By the way I like your alternate universe spinoff for EASTLAND ACADEMY...dying to hear what the premise would be!

In my alternate universe, NBC executives see the summer ratings for The Facts of Life, and realize their mistake. They quickly spin off a new show, to capitalize on the 15+ million viewers who began tuning in once the show's time slot was changed.

In the Eastland Academy spin-off, we go back to the dorm. Molly, Cindy, Nancy, and Sue Ann learn their own facts of life, with Miss Mahoney and Mr. Bradley. Mrs. Garrett makes frequent appearances, coming over from the nearby cafeteria. We also see Tootie, Natalie, Blair, and Jo at least twice per season, although their roles are usually small (an exception is the episode "Chit Chat"). We also get to see Kimberly and the Drummonds, since Kimberly is still attending Eastland at this time, and it would be weird to not see her there.

We finally get to meet the parents of Cindy, Sue Ann, and Nancy. We meet Molly's mother and her brother. We get to see Cindy's broken family. Most of the episodes are centered in the dorm or in the classrooms.

And no-one but Miss Mahoney is named Emily. :lol:

In my alternate universe, NBC executives see the summer ratings for The Facts of Life, and realize their mistake. They quickly spin off a new show, to capitalize on the 15+ million viewers who began tuning in once the show's time slot was changed.

In the Eastland Academy spin-off, we go back to the dorm. Molly, Cindy, Nancy, and Sue Ann learn their own facts of life, with Miss Mahoney and Mr. Bradley. Mrs. Garrett makes frequent appearances, coming over from the nearby cafeteria. We also see Tootie, Natalie, Blair, and Jo at least twice per season, although their roles are usually small (an exception is the episode "Chit Chat"). We also get to see Kimberly and the Drummonds, since Kimberly is still attending Eastland at this time, and it would be weird to not see her there.

We finally get to meet the parents of Cindy, Sue Ann, and Nancy. We meet Molly's mother and her brother. We get to see Cindy's broken family. Most of the episodes are centered in the dorm or in the classrooms.

And no-one is named Emily. :lol:

As you know Molly's TV mother was suppose to appear in the original script, but never appeared. From what I read many years ago, Charlotte didn't want her to appear because she (Molly's mother) was suppose to be OK with the divorce in the script and was friends with the father's new girlfriend. Charlotte thought that was unrealistic and forced a change where the show did not have a totally happy ending.

As you know Molly's TV mother was suppose to appear in the original script, but never appeared. From what I read many years ago, Charlotte didn't want her to appear because she (Molly's mother) was suppose to be OK with the divorce in the script and was friends with the father's new girlfriend. Charlotte thought that was unrealistic and forced a change where the show did not have a totally happy ending.

I had no idea Charlotte influenced scripts.

I had no idea Charlotte influenced scripts.

That wasn't the only one she influenced. She refused to soften the suicide episode with Cynthia. She also made them take out what she perceived as a gay slur for one episode (I don't know which one it was).

I also think she put an end of having the Different Strokes kids on the set of FOL because of the problems they were causing on the DS set (at least with Gary and Dana).

In my alternate universe, NBC executives see the summer ratings for The Facts of Life, and realize their mistake. They quickly spin off a new show, to capitalize on the 15+ million viewers who began tuning in once the show's time slot was changed.

In the Eastland Academy spin-off, we go back to the dorm. Molly, Cindy, Nancy, and Sue Ann learn their own facts of life, with Miss Mahoney and Mr. Bradley. Mrs. Garrett makes frequent appearances, coming over from the nearby cafeteria. We also see Tootie, Natalie, Blair, and Jo at least twice per season, although their roles are usually small (an exception is the episode "Chit Chat"). We also get to see Kimberly and the Drummonds, since Kimberly is still attending Eastland at this time, and it would be weird to not see her there.

We finally get to meet the parents of Cindy, Sue Ann, and Nancy. We meet Molly's mother and her brother. We get to see Cindy's broken family. Most of the episodes are centered in the dorm or in the classrooms.

And no-one but Miss Mahoney is named Emily. :lol:

I would SO WATCH that! More than the "mothership" series. Like Mrs. G. becoming the "Oscar Goldman" or "Sam Drucker" playing the same character on multiple series.

A Lost Girls series...I'd be there and Felice would get her due instead of getting gyped the way she and the rest of the girls were.

That wasn't the only one she influenced. She refused to soften the suicide episode with Cynthia.

I remember Margie taking credit for that one.


She also made them take out what she perceived as a gay slur for one episode (I don't know which one it was).

Now that you mention it, I do recall that.

I would SO WATCH that! More than the "mothership" series. Like Mrs. G. becoming the "Oscar Goldman" or "Sam Drucker" playing the same character on multiple series.

A Lost Girls series...I'd be there and Felice would get her due instead of getting gyped the way she and the rest of the girls were.

Thanks A.C.!

As we all know, "Felice got a bum deal." Those words from Mindy speak volumes. For her to speak out against the producers, and clearly state how tiny Felice's role became, despite Mindy being a major spokesman of the show, speaks volumes. I know Mindy and Felice were always tight, but Mindy is so straightforward about this aspect.

As you know, I think all the Lost Girls got a bum deal, but none more so than Felice. She got a moment to shine in "The Girls' School", "Gossip", and "The Little Chill"... and maybe that is it. I thought she did a great job in those episodes, but it boggles the mind how she went from Lead Girl to Walking Scenery so quickly.

A spin-off show like "Eastland Academy" could have resolved the "too many girls" nonsense by "picking four and forgetting everyone else". As we've seen from the Summer 1980 ratings, the Lost Girls were popular, generating over 15 million viewers and hitting the Top 20 in the Nielsen Ratings. Since NBC was so desperate for ratings, and ended up cancelling 1/3rd of their schedule (including The Big Show, Eischied, From Here to Eternity, Good Time Harry, Hello Larry, Here's Boomer, Joe's World, A Man Called Sloane, Me and Maxx, Kate Loves a Mystery, Pink Lady and Jeff, The Rockford Files, Skag, Shirley, and United States) anyway, this could have given NBC another hit series.

Thanks A.C.!

As we all know, "Felice got a bum deal." Those words from Mindy speak volumes. For her to speak out against the producers, and clearly state how tiny Felice's role became, despite Mindy being a major spokesman of the show, speaks volumes. I know Mindy and Felice were always tight, but Mindy is so straightforward about this aspect.

As you know, I think all the Lost Girls got a bum deal, but none more so than Felice. She got a moment to shine in "The Girls' School", "Gossip", and "The Little Chill"... and maybe that is it. I thought she did a great job in those episodes, but it boggles the mind how she went from Lead Girl to Walking Scenery so quickly.

A spin-off show like "Eastland Academy" could have resolved the "too many girls" nonsense by "picking four and forgetting everyone else". As we've seen from the Summer 1980 ratings, the Lost Girls were popular, generating over 15 million viewers and hitting the Top 20 in the Nielsen Ratings. Since NBC was so desperate for ratings, and ended up cancelling 1/3rd of their schedule (including The Big Show, Eischied, From Here to Eternity, Good Time Harry, Hello Larry, Here's Boomer, Joe's World, A Man Called Sloane, Me and Maxx, Kate Loves a Mystery, Pink Lady and Jeff, The Rockford Files, Skag, Shirley, and United States) anyway, this could have given NBC another hit series.


I know, it kind of annoyed me that JO soon became the main character (at least on season 2).
On season 1, BLAIR was the main character and she got all the attention from MRS G.
Season 2, JO got all the attention from MRS G.
Season 3, NAT got all the attention from MRS G.
And season 4, 5 and 6 was a mixture between BLAIR & JO to get more of MRS G great advice and heart to heart talk.
TOOTIE didn't get many heart to heart episodes with MRS G (or at least very few moments).:wave:

I know, it kind of annoyed me that JO soon became the main character (at least on season 2).
On season 1, BLAIR was the main character and she got all the attention from MRS G.
Season 2, JO got all the attention from MRS G.
Season 3, NAT got all the attention from MRS G.
And season 4, 5 and 6 was a mixture between BLAIR & JO to get more of MRS G great advice and heart to heart talk.
TOOTIE didn't get many heart to heart episodes with MRS G (or at least very few moments).:wave:

Tootie did get a heart to heart talk from Mrs. G. in overacheiving after her father tried to pull her out because the American education episode was not as good as Japan's. Oops, wrong episode and student. The episode in which her father tried to pull her out because she wants to be a beautician.

but Mindy is so straightforward about this aspect.

She's so straightforward about everything as an adult: "I was like, okay, one of these girls has gotta get laid!" :eek: :lol:


As you know, I think all the Lost Girls got a bum deal, but none more so than Felice. She got a moment to shine in "The Girls' School", "Gossip", and "The Little Chill"... and maybe that is it.

Yup. Her biggest episode wasn't even a FOL episode! (TGS). Then co-sharing one episode in season 1, and that's it for the classic years of the show.


Here's Boomer

Okay, Boomer. :rolleyes:

;)

She's so straightforward about everything as an adult: "I was like, okay, one of these girls has gotta get laid!" :eek: :lol:




Yup. Her biggest episode wasn't even a FOL episode! (TGS). Then co-sharing one episode in season 1, and that's it for the classic years of the show.




Okay, Boomer. :rolleyes:

;)

And Mindy went and found a random guy to get laid so she knew what it was like to get laid before Natalie did in make believe. Rumor has it that it was a young Johnny Depp.

Okay, Boomer. :rolleyes:

;)

:brent

She's so straightforward about everything as an adult: "I was like, okay, one of these girls has gotta get laid!" :eek: :lol:

Mindy's straightforwardness is awesome, of course. Because that's just Mindy. But here, I like not just what she says, but how she says it: "I think Felice [dramatic pause] got a bum deal." Mindy isn't mincing words the way Lisa might, or even Kim. As much as Kim, Lisa, and Nancy have been advocates for the Lost Girls over the years, Mindy lays it on the line. Part of that, of course, might be just how raw the deal was (because everyone else got more lines than Felice that first season).


Yup. Her biggest episode wasn't even a FOL episode! (TGS). Then co-sharing one episode in season 1, and that's it for the classic years of the show.

Yes. Though I like to think of her as the "fourth girl" in "Gossip", it certainly wasn't "her" episode, the way "The Girls' School" or even half of "IQ" was hers.




Okay, Boomer. :rolleyes:

;)

:lol:

And Mindy went and found a random guy to get laid so she knew what it was like to get laid before Natalie did in make believe. Rumor has it that it was a young Johnny Depp.

Oh dang, 80s Dude! Once again, you have delivered some juicy gossip! And I would buy that, because look who Mindy was hanging out with in the mid-1980s: Belinda Carlisle, Charlie Sheen, and... Johnny Depp!

Oh dang, 80s Dude! Once again, you have delivered some juicy gossip! And I would buy that, because look who Mindy was hanging out with in the mid-1980s: Belinda Carlisle, Charlie Sheen, and... Johnny Depp!

Oh whoa, cool!

Okay, wow, so within a month, we have photos of TWO Eastland girls with hot '80s rock stars:

Molly DJing with The Bangles' Susannah Hoffs
Mindy hanging with Belinda Carlisle.

Awesome! :D

I saw some photo where Molly was hanging with Belinda Carlise during her prime movie career era.