This is pretty cool, https://youtu.be/aMWpyGwP3t0

Whilst I guess there is a part of the UM episode in here, I thought in this instance it would be okay to share. If not, just delete. It's pretty cool for someone like me who has no chance of ever going there.

I wish the segment would have focused more on the actual unsolved murder of Hardin, and not the supernatural aspect of the story. Because this (https://www.theledger.com/news/20061026/poltergeist-associated-with-clermonts-only-unsolved-murder) article makes it seem like he was ambushed by someone who was stalking him.

I wish the segment would have focused more on the actual unsolved murder of Hardin, and not the supernatural aspect of the story. Because this (https://www.theledger.com/news/20061026/poltergeist-associated-with-clermonts-only-unsolved-murder) article makes it seem like he was ambushed by someone who was stalking him.

Same. I just want to know more background on Hardin in general. What was he like? Why did he just up and leave his first wife and children? Why is his name misspelled and the death date incorrect on his headstone? Whatever happened to his second wife?

My great-grandparents lived in a big late 19th century home kind of like the Hardin house, and I actually get a really comforting feeling about it whenever I see the segment or look at photos of it. I can totally see why that woman who bought the house felt like she'd come home, weird foreshadowing dreams aside.

I'd love to see closure on the murder of John Harden. There are some articles online you can read just using a basic search of his name in google and I think they have already been posted here before. UM seems adamant he was shot in the chest whereas online article's say he was shot in the back and his gravesite spells his name Harden, UM spells it Hardin. How hard is it to these basic details right??

Same. I just want to know more background on Hardin in general. What was he like? Why did he just up and leave his first wife and children? Why is his name misspelled and the death date incorrect on his headstone? Whatever happened to his second wife?

My great-grandparents lived in a big late 19th century home kind of like the Hardin house, and I actually get a really comforting feeling about it whenever I see the segment or look at photos of it. I can totally see why that woman who bought the house felt like she'd come home, weird foreshadowing dreams aside.

A few years ago I read a fairly detailed article on the Hardin murder (can't find it now), which said that Hardin was going through something of a midlife crisis at the time when he met a much younger woman and started having an affair, and she ultimately became his 2nd wife. I would love to know more about the 2nd wife, because I think she may have been the reason behind Hardin's murder.

A few years ago I read a fairly detailed article on the Hardin murder (can't find it now), which said that Hardin was going through something of a midlife crisis at the time when he met a much younger woman and started having an affair, and she ultimately became his 2nd wife. I would love to know more about the 2nd wife, because I think she may have been the reason behind Hardin's murder.

I have absolutely no real evidence but I've suspected the same thing. I actually may have read that article at some point years ago; do you happen to remember if it mentioned Hardin's second wife having a brother?

I have absolutely no real evidence but I've suspected the same thing. I actually may have read that article at some point years ago; do you happen to remember if it mentioned Hardin's second wife having a brother?

Yes! Either a brother or her father, it was a male relative who was very close to her. I seem to also remember that the article set up a "read between the lines" type of description about who the police thought was involved, and it was either the father/brother of the 2nd wife or an ex-boyfriend of hers.

A few years ago I read a fairly detailed article on the Hardin murder (can't find it now), which said that Hardin was going through something of a midlife crisis at the time when he met a much younger woman and started having an affair, and she ultimately became his 2nd wife. I would love to know more about the 2nd wife, because I think she may have been the reason behind Hardin's murder.

I don't remember detailed articles about the murder but when I found out how much younger the second wife was, my mind immediately went to her father or someone else close to her that was not keen on the relationship. And doing the math, the second wife had to have been just 17 when they started their relationship. Honestly, what father is going to be happy about his teenage daughter getting together with a 40 year old man with a wife and three kids?

And yet, it was the first wife who was interviewed in the UM segment, speaking so lovingly of him to the point of tears despite the fact Harden completely screwed her over.

After the murder, the second wife never spent another night in that house. Yet she traveld to the house years later to watch the UM segment get filmed in person....but was never interviewed. So much weirdness.

I've mentioned this before but I think the segment should have been split into two parts. One on the ghost aspect and one of the actual murder investigation. The recurring dreams with June Ferris and the fact the unsolved mysteries crew themselves said they experienced weird hauntings while filming is too interesting not to include.

I cannot find anything online about this murder from after 2007 (when it was re-opened) and it seems as if no one cares whether or not this is solved. Why the investigation was closed is bizarre to me. The only logical scenario is that who the police suspected killed him had passed away.

So I do hope that the murder gets solved. on a show where unsolved murders seem to be a main theme, it seems as if in this case the murder was just a supporting role for a ghost story. I too thought the house was interesting, and before I paid much attention to the actual murder, the scene where Mr. Harden, in his ghost form, extends his hand toward the young child as a "caring ghost" always got to me.

Considering how people still suspect Rob Shafer in Angela Hammond's disappearance, I am actually surprised that no one has ever broached the theory that June Farris was involved in Harden's death to get the house.

It looks like the grimmlifecollective video linked in the first post has been blocked.

World of Micah visited the house in Clermont, Florida. It still looks the same.

He's buried in Montverde, Florida. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/65350441/john-warren-harden

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I wish the segment would have focused more on the actual unsolved murder of Hardin, and not the supernatural aspect of the story.

I agree, especially because neither June Ferris' dreams nor the supernatural activity that she and her family experienced once they had moved into the house appeared to shed any new light on his murder. Like I said in another thread, the whole segment came across as a real shaggy dog story.

He's buried in Montverde, Florida. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/65350441/john-warren-harden

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Thanks for sharing this, quite interesting for me. I still believe the UM dream sequence storyline was them being overly dramatic. That part is nonsense, rest or the story is intriguing.

Oh and at least we know (in this case), when UM say they record on location, they mean it.

So, I visited the house when I was in Orlando this past June. I've been meaning to post the pics, but the house looks like it is being remodeled or torn down. Lots of boards over the windows and general disarray happening.

This (https://www.theledger.com/story/news/2006/10/26/poltergeist-associated-with-clermonts-only-unsolved-murder/25905770007/) article has an interested tidbit about the house that I had forgotten/overlooked:

At the time of the murder, the Hardin family -- husband, wife, 9-month-old baby boy -- had been in Clermont for about a year. Victoria Hardin had apparently inherited the property and had entered into a contract to sell it. In the meantime, the little family moved down from Jacksonville and stayed in the old house.

This could have been the motive for the murder, IMO. Someone upset over the fact that this property was going to be sold or that she and her new husband were the ones who inherited it?

I lived in a community called Killarney it’s just a few miles east of Clermont. I like your new theory Cars. I’ve always been suspicious of the wife, but this could be a new idea.

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It's always kinda frustrated me that UM glossed over the unsolved murder and focused on the spooky stuff.

The circumstances of his murder are weird enough that it could've made a very intriguing segment and honestly, might have been more interesting than the ghost story.

Its very sad what happend to him......

Who exactly was involved??

This guy has a bizarre take on June Farris: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVbx__z6t9Y

It's sad that this murder is still the only unsolved one in Clermont, FL. Seriously, Florida has so much weirdness going on in terms of supernatural and murders.

Here's another good video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fpwwXpQdJ8