View Full Version : Are there any UM cases you don't want solved?


ufohealer
11-19-2019, 02:43 PM
I don't want the Aileen Conway case solved in my lifetime. (It will never get solved anyways imo.) It's extra creepy - the empty house setting when its Pat returns. If solved and it turned out 2 be an accident then the next time(s) I watch it, it will be less scary for me.

freakbook
11-19-2019, 02:59 PM
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ufohealer
11-19-2019, 06:20 PM
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E = M C SQUARED! E = emcee squared!!

LooksLikeCRicci
11-22-2019, 01:55 AM
Yeah, can’t say there are any cases I don’t want solved....

1990 UM fan
11-22-2019, 03:11 AM
Are you the killer?

TheCars1986
11-22-2019, 09:08 AM
I guess the supernatural segments would be better left "unsolved". It's more fun to speculate that way.

ufohealer
11-22-2019, 09:57 AM
Are you the killer?

yes please

ufohealer
11-22-2019, 10:05 AM
[QUOTE=LooksLikeCRicci;5634604]Yeah, can’t say there are any cases I don’t want solved....[/QUOTE

What about the 'ugly dead' !? Many Americans will favor the living beautiful women actresses AND do favor the attractive murdered girls or women. They say stupid crap like: "oh, she was so beautiful, what a shame!!", meanwhile ignoring the ugly dead (female murdered victims!)

Im sure we all favored or gave more interest to the more juicy or sexy segments on UM and cared less about some other cases.

ufohealer
11-22-2019, 10:07 AM
I guess the supernatural segments would be better left "unsolved". It's more fun to speculate that way.

Agree

dynoguy88
11-22-2019, 10:08 AM
I guess the supernatural segments would be better left "unsolved". It's more fun to speculate that way.

As a dog lover, I enjoyed the cases where some dogs are able to identify skin cancer and the ones like Harley who could correctly predict seizures in epileptics. Robert Stack says it best at the end that no explanation is necessary. I agree with him.

However, the unexplained deaths and the missing people, OF COURSE I want to know every single detail about what happened. I don't care to leave certain things up to the imagination. I hate it when movies sometimes leaves certain scenes open to interpretation. That is a cop-out. I want to know EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.

freakbook
11-22-2019, 10:22 AM
What about the 'ugly dead' !? Many Americans will favor the living beautiful women actresses AND do favor the attractive murdered girls or women. They say stupid crap like: "oh, she was so beautiful, what a shame!!", meanwhile ignoring the ugly dead (female murdered victims!)

Im sure we all favored or gave more interest to the more juicy or sexy segments on UM and cared less about some other cases.

Are you ugly?

ufohealer
11-22-2019, 10:50 AM
Are you ugly?

no ma'am

ufohealer
11-22-2019, 11:00 AM
Are you ugly?

YoU need jesus. You are knot a freak. Rather are an non-freak or unfreak. How com you unemplyed n writing online whenn yu shuld bee @@ wirk???!! Todays my day off.

freakbook
11-22-2019, 03:00 PM
YoU need jesus. You are knot a freak. Rather are an non-freak or unfreak. How com you unemplyed n writing online whenn yu shuld bee @@ wirk???!! Todays my day off.

Is Jesus hiring?

ScaryFog
11-23-2019, 10:51 PM
They all need to be solved.

ufohealer
11-24-2019, 02:04 PM
They all need to be solved.

Yeah; good luck with that.

DALLASTEXAN!!
11-25-2019, 05:45 PM
I guess I would never want to sit in the chair of death...wherever that pub is at. I think the only way to solve that one is to sit in the chair and see what happens? actually I would be interested to take a picture of that chair if it is till mounted on the wall.

On a more serious note, I want everything solved. even the supernatural cases, but it was/is pretty cool to believe that anything is possible!

sharonite
12-04-2019, 11:19 PM
I never want to see the fertility statues segment solved. I prefer the mystery of not knowing how those relatively young, ostensibly sexually active women became pregnant. :rolleyes:

Clockwork
01-25-2023, 04:48 PM
Honestly, pretty much all of them are ones you want to see solved. Unless................Bill and Dorothy Wacker. He died in 1999, she died in 2010 I believe. Not that this will ever be solved as there is no reason for it to be, but imagine somehow it does get solved 100% and it is revealed one of the children was intentionally tormenting them? That is not going to lead to any sort of family unity. That will just divide everyone. It is better to think it was just some neighbour or some "kook" as Bill said. Which it might have been.

Some of the Final Appeal segments could have a mixed review of being solved. Don't get me wrong, we all want to know the truth, but imagine knowing Darlie Routier or Jeffrey MacDonald have been on death's row all of these years and are truly innocent. At this point my guess is they are both institutionalized to the point where I am not even sure how they could integrate into society. Anyone that might support them is pretty much dead. Darlie's mother might be alive, I don't know, but if she is, it wouldn't be for long.

MediaHoarder
01-26-2023, 04:03 PM
There are a number that I would prefer remain unsolved.

One category are the Lost Love segments where people are trying to break the integrity of a closed adoption. If it was closed to begin with it should be left that way.

Also any cases where they are "solved" using either a judicial process that violates someone's rights (convictions without corpus delicti, etc) and cases where they pin it on some long dead person and close the books. I would like to see these solved, but done properly.

Killarney Rose
01-26-2023, 05:29 PM
As an adoptee, I have to disagree on the closed adoptions. Unless you are adopted, you have no idea what it feels like to have that empty, aching, longing to know who you are and who you came from. Everyone has that right. IMO when the birth parents took the chance that they could have a child, they lost that right to their privacy. I do feel however that beyond learning who their birth parents were and hopefully some history, the adoptee should respect the parents privacy if they don’t want a relationship. But their history is their right.

Hot Jock
01-26-2023, 10:55 PM
I do not want the disappearance and murder of Father John Kerrigan to ever be solved. He deserved what he got and whomever did him in was 100% justified to do so IMO.

I also don’t want the LA Bank Tunnel Robbers to ever be caught. Completely victimless crime (lol if you think banks or insurance companies are victims) that harmed nobody.

Clockwork
01-27-2023, 12:30 AM
I do not want the disappearance and murder of Father John Kerrigan to ever be solved. He deserved what he got and whomever did him in was 100% justified to do so IMO.

I also don’t want the LA Bank Tunnel Robbers to ever be caught. Completely victimless crime (lol if you think banks or insurance companies are victims) that harmed nobody.

It harms the customers. Not the banks, but everyone else. Sort of a trickle down effect

Labonte18
01-27-2023, 04:13 PM
I do not want the disappearance and murder of Father John Kerrigan to ever be solved. He deserved what he got and whomever did him in was 100% justified to do so IMO.

I also don’t want the LA Bank Tunnel Robbers to ever be caught. Completely victimless crime (lol if you think banks or insurance companies are victims) that harmed nobody.

And what if the killer of Kerrigan was also the killer of Rivera? Who was an innocent man.

Whoever killed Kerrigan, if it was done for vengeance purposes, took justice out of the hands of other victims.. Who might have preferred his punishment to be languishing in a prison cell for the rest of his natural life.

and.. Who's to say that the next time they become a vigilante that they don't get the wrong person? Or is that what happened with Rivera?

dynoguy88
01-27-2023, 08:08 PM
Whoever killed Kerrigan, if it was done for vengeance purposes, took justice out of the hands of other victims.. Who might have preferred his punishment to be languishing in a prison cell for the rest of his natural life.

and.. Who's to say that the next time they become a vigilante that they don't get the wrong person? Or is that what happened with Rivera?

The chances that Father Kerrigan would have spent a single day in a prison cell is slim to none. The statistics for accused priests of sexual assault who actually face any sort of prison time is about 2%. The numbers are extremely sickening. And the Catholic Church does nothing to help solve the problem but send the priest away to a different location where he can abuse new victims. And then it happens again and the process gets repeated over and over. This was Kerrigan's life for 30+ years.

The thought of Kerrigan languishing in prison is nice...but it wasn't going to happen. And whoever did away with him must have known that.

I'm not saying I support vigilante justice, but I'd be lying if I said I felt even the slightest bit of sympathy for Kerrigan.

Gelatinous Goo
01-27-2023, 09:23 PM
I also don’t want the LA Bank Tunnel Robbers to ever be caught. Completely victimless crime (lol if you think banks or insurance companies are victims) that harmed nobody.

They also broke into safe deposit boxes, did they not? If so, then I'm sure irreplaceable valuables and collectibles were taken. That's harmful to the owners, who all treasured those items, or else they would have turned them into cash voluntarily as opposed to an insurance payout.

MediaHoarder
01-27-2023, 10:10 PM
The chances that Father Kerrigan would have spent a single day in a prison cell is slim to none. The statistics for accused priests of sexual assault who actually face any sort of prison time is about 2%. The numbers are extremely sickening. And the Catholic Church does nothing to help solve the problem but send the priest away to a different location where he can abuse new victims. And then it happens again and the process gets repeated over and over. This was Kerrigan's life for 30+ years.

The thought of Kerrigan languishing in prison is nice...but it wasn't going to happen. And whoever did away with him must have known that.

I'm not saying I support vigilante justice, but I'd be lying if I said I felt even the slightest bit of sympathy for Kerrigan.

All of that assumes that he was actually guilty of anything, which of course is highly speculative at best. I think both his death, as well as Riviera and at least one other person, were the work of a serial killer that targeted the clergy.

I also think you are looking through the wrong end of the telescope. If only 2% have jail time, that implies the other 98% were in fact innocent.
In this country a person is innocent, until proven guilty in a court of law by a jury of their peers. It is not guilty until proven innocent in the court of Twitter and public opinion.

MediaHoarder
01-27-2023, 10:11 PM
They also broke into safe deposit boxes, did they not? If so, then I'm sure irreplaceable valuables and collectibles were taken. That's harmful to the owners, who all treasured those items, or else they would have turned them into cash voluntarily as opposed to an insurance payout.

Banks and Insurance companies are victims. Neither has seigniorage powers, so when either looses to criminals like that it is people like you and I that pay for it indirectly.

drew790
01-28-2023, 12:44 AM
This thread was better when it was about if we only wanted good looking peoples cases solved.

Jon
01-29-2023, 12:15 AM
I could give a **** if any of the lost treasures are ever found, and that’s assuming they ever existed in the first place (that’s a big if)

Jon
01-29-2023, 12:21 AM
The chances that Father Kerrigan would have spent a single day in a prison cell is slim to none. The statistics for accused priests of sexual assault who actually face any sort of prison time is about 2%. The numbers are extremely sickening. And the Catholic Church does nothing to help solve the problem but send the priest away to a different location where he can abuse new victims. And then it happens again and the process gets repeated over and over. This was Kerrigan's life for 30+ years.

The thought of Kerrigan languishing in prison is nice...but it wasn't going to happen. And whoever did away with him must have known that.

I'm not saying I support vigilante justice, but I'd be lying if I said I felt even the slightest bit of sympathy for Kerrigan.

I agree with all of this, well said. There’s no question that he was a serial child abuser, he was ushered from parish to parish by enablers within the church. As Bill Burr said about this topic, the church treated their pedophile problem like Sea World treats their problem with trainers being killed by Orcas

Labonte18
01-31-2023, 12:21 PM
All of that assumes that he was actually guilty of anything, which of course is highly speculative at best. I think both his death, as well as Riviera and at least one other person, were the work of a serial killer that targeted the clergy.

I also think you are looking through the wrong end of the telescope. If only 2% have jail time, that implies the other 98% were in fact innocent.
In this country a person is innocent, until proven guilty in a court of law by a jury of their peers. It is not guilty until proven innocent in the court of Twitter and public opinion.

I have little doubt he was guilty. He was moved around from parish to parish as complaints were made about him. Fits the pattern.

Has anyone come out and described anything? Not that I know of.

Regardless. Vigilantism can never be acceptable. There's just.. Too much room for error. You really want one of these people who eats Tide pods being judge, jury and executioner?

LooksLikeCRicci
01-31-2023, 07:50 PM
I do not want the disappearance and murder of Father John Kerrigan to ever be solved. He deserved what he got and whomever did him in was 100% justified to do so IMO.

Ohhh, as soon as I saw the title of this thread, I knew you were gonna comment on Father Kerrigan...

I am almost 100% certain that the killings of Father Kerrigan and Father Reynaldo are not related. Given what we know about Kerrigan now, I am very comfortable in believing it was a vigilante killing and that Kerrigan was the only target of that particular killer.

I am convinced Father Kerrigan's killer resides in the state of Montana.

dynoguy88
02-01-2023, 10:28 AM
As an adoptee, I have to disagree on the closed adoptions. Unless you are adopted, you have no idea what it feels like to have that empty, aching, longing to know who you are and who you came from. Everyone has that right. IMO when the birth parents took the chance that they could have a child, they lost that right to their privacy. I do feel however that beyond learning who their birth parents were and hopefully some history, the adoptee should respect the parents privacy if they don’t want a relationship. But their history is their right.

I’m not an adoptee but I agree with everything. So many Lost Love cases featured people who grew up in stable, even loving homes as an adoptee. But not having the information to their history and where they came from weighed on them heavily, as if it were a major void. They shouldn’t have to live with that.

EighthStreet
02-01-2023, 12:54 PM
D.B. Cooper, the story works better as part of American myth and folklore. If it remains unsolved it will be a story told for centuries.