View Full Version : Pet Peeve: When comedies get too serious or dark
Does anyone else hate it when a comedy series gets too serious or dark? For example, in All in the Family, there was the attempted rape of Edith episode. On Roseanne they got far too serious that time Roseanne and Dan argued and Dan started throwing around furniture. On Everybody Loves Raymond, they never got too serious or dark except for the final episode (of all things) when Ray has a death scare following a surgery.
Steve_uk 09-08-2019, 02:28 AM It's not a good idea. They should remain frivolous, unchallenging, superficial, or they don't belong in this genre.
Heenan Fan 09-11-2019, 08:03 PM I disagree. What made shows like AITF, Roseanne and shameless great is because they're realistic. Family's fight. Not everything is peaches and cream like on The Cosby Show or Seinfeld. MASH, Frasier, Norman Lear sitcoms have all been successful tackling serious subjects. The only thing l don't care for is when shows try to spread right-wing propaganda b.s.
Steve_uk 09-12-2019, 04:30 PM I disagree. What made shows like AITF, Roseanne and shameless great is because they're realistic. Family's fight. Not everything is peaches and cream like on The Cosby Show or Seinfeld. MASH, Frasier, Norman Lear sitcoms have all been successful tackling serious subjects. The only thing l don't care for is when shows try to spread right-wing propaganda b.s.
Up to a point I suppose. I still don't see how the attempted rape mentioned in #1 belongs in this genre.
dan laters 09-25-2019, 09:34 PM Almost never works. Generally laughable but not funny.
Duster76 09-25-2019, 11:10 PM I disagree. What made shows like AITF, Roseanne and shameless great is because they're realistic. Family's fight. Not everything is peaches and cream like on The Cosby Show or Seinfeld. MASH, Frasier, Norman Lear sitcoms have all been successful tackling serious subjects. The only thing l don't care for is when shows try to spread right-wing propaganda b.s.
I don't know where to begin:
Seinfeld: Talk about missing the point, the motto of the stars and producers was best stated by Larry David, "no hugging, no learning".
MASH: I think many fans of the series got a little tired of the all to steady stream of serious, preachy, dark episodes of what was after all a comedy series. Richard Hooker (real name Richard Hornberger), the author of the book MASH which both the movie and the TV series were based on, hated the TV series.
The Cosby Show: Not everything was peaches and cream on The Cosby Show, Cosby chose not to hit the audience over the head, but there were many serious moments that I thought were handled very well. My problem with the series was in the fact that it wasn't funny enough. The pilot episode was very funny, I wish there had been more like that.
"The only thing l don't care for is when shows try to spread right-wing propaganda"
Hollywood is awash with liberal ideology (look at the shows you mentioned, All In The Family, MASH), which show spread right wing propaganda (I'm looking forward to seeing this list)?
KurtfromPitts 10-02-2019, 11:07 AM I'd like to see some examples of "right-wing" propaganda too.
bmasters9 10-02-2019, 01:52 PM I'd like to see some examples of "right-wing" propaganda too.
I think Last Man Standing is an infamous source of right-wing ideology.
Heenan Fan 10-02-2019, 03:59 PM I'd like to see some examples of "right-wing" propaganda too.
Sorry,. I meant to say left wing, although both parties have been guilty of it before.
Duster76 10-02-2019, 07:12 PM I think Last Man Standing is an infamous source of right-wing ideology.
One show in the history of television, wow!
Impressions 10-02-2019, 09:45 PM Agree. I always cringe when a comedy tackles rape or molestation. It was common in the 80s. They should’ve left that to a drama.
Raingus 10-02-2019, 10:22 PM I know this is about sitcoms however, I hate it when certain dramas have comical episodes. Like certain Star Trek series for example.
One that comes to mind is a Star Trek Voyager episode about a holodeck character called, "Captain Proton". That was a really really bad episode.
dee2364 10-04-2019, 10:22 AM I've always hated "dark" episodes, too. I don't watch sitcoms to remind me of how :censored: real life is. That AITF episode where Edith almost raped is one of my all time most hated episodes of all time, next to Dudley getting molested on Diff'rent Strokes. After seeing that AITF episode, it took me almost 30 years before I had the stomach to see it through. Diff'rent Strokes, I never watched again because of all the drama episodes dealing with anorexia, drunk driving, kidnapping, etc.
Another episode I can't stand is the one on The Honeymooners where Alice and Ralph are rejected as foster parents.
bmasters9 10-04-2019, 04:36 PM Diff'rent Strokes, I never watched again because of all the drama episodes dealing with anorexia, drunk driving, kidnapping, etc.
All those reasons are why Diff'rent Strokes has been ineligible for my DVD collection in the first place!
MikeLutton 10-04-2019, 05:02 PM like when jeffersons had that gun episode i refuse to watch that one again
Edward216 10-05-2019, 01:53 AM like when jeffersons had that gun episode i refuse to watch that one again
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a Golden Girls episode where the house is broken into or something and Rose decides to get a gun and almost accidentally shoots Dorothy or Blanche because she thinks they're another burglar who's broken in? Yeah I wish they'd leave that kind of stuff to the TV dramas.
Ed.
MikeLutton 10-05-2019, 03:04 AM that is true one of the first season episodes called break in rose almost shoots blanche;s date lester
and on empty nest carol nearly kills the neighbor charlie dietz with a gun and kills his liqour bottle he was drinking instead
and on Happy days potsie accidently shot fonzie in the behind.
Edward216 10-06-2019, 02:43 AM that is true one of the first season episodes called break in rose almost shoots blanche;s date lester
and on empty nest carol nearly kills the neighbor charlie dietz with a gun and kills his liqour bottle he was drinking instead
and on Happy days potsie accidently shot fonzie in the behind.
Thanks, it's been a long time since I've watched an episode of The Golden Girls.
Ed.
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