View Full Version : Were parts of the "Over Our Heads" set recycled for other NBC shows


TMC
08-07-2019, 02:58 AM
Most specifically, the diner set (The Max) on Saved by the Bell. I mean the color schemes (with the pinks and what not) on each set are awfully similar.

RetroGuy2000
08-08-2019, 01:22 AM
Most specifically, the diner set (The Max) on Saved by the Bell. I mean the color schemes (with the pinks and what not) on each set are awfully similar.

I don't think so. The pink walls were just a sign of the times: the late 1980s. It's like asking if the costumes on The Facts of Life came from Miami Vice.

The only part of the two sets that really even look the same are the glass block windows, which were common in the 1980s. The OOH set had pillars to hold merchandise; the Max set had booths so people could eat. The only chairs in the OOH set were metal and would have probably been very uncomfortable to sit in. The neon signs couldn't have been recycled.

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'80sSitcoms
08-08-2019, 09:43 AM
Yeah, probably just how the times were (also of note: I have never seen a full episode of SBTB).

Miss Bliss must be juuuuuuust off camera ;)

This "block windows" talk also reminds me of the game show "Scrabble". While not windows, blocks were everywhere!

Man, I loved watching S at my grandparents'. :loveya:

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'80sSitcoms
08-08-2019, 09:45 AM
(and what the H-E-double-hockey-sticks are GEESE replicas doing in a "hot", trendy '80s store?? :lol: )

RetroGuy2000
08-08-2019, 11:25 PM
Yeah, probably just how the times were (also of note: I have never seen a full episode of SBTB).

That totally shocks me, '80s! You're such a child of the '80s. I mean, sure, SBTB didn't start until 1989, but counting GMMB, it would have been 1987.


Miss Bliss must be juuuuuuust off camera ;)

...in every episode. Sure. ;)


This "block windows" talk also reminds me of the game show "Scrabble". While not windows, blocks were everywhere!

Man, I loved watching S at my grandparents'. :loveya:

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Yep! It was a fun show! I don't remember watching Scrabble at my grandparents', but I do remember watching Family Feud there.

RetroGuy2000
08-08-2019, 11:26 PM
(and what the H-E-double-hockey-sticks are GEESE replicas doing in a "hot", trendy '80s store?? :lol: )

:lol:

I wonder if they ever sold?

'80sSitcoms
08-09-2019, 10:08 AM
That totally shocks me, '80s! You're such a child of the '80s. I mean, sure, SBTB didn't start until 1989, but counting GMMB, it would have been 1987.

I think part of it was the time slot. It seems to me like it came on really early in the mornings or something---obviously, that would be in syndication. I have no idea when it originally aired, lol. And wasn't it a cable show in its first run? I grew up with no cable.


...in every episode. Sure. ;)

She became a "Lost Teacher"! :lol:


Yep! It was a fun show! I don't remember watching Scrabble at my grandparents', but I do remember watching Family Feud there.

Oo! OO! They could've done a FOL edition of FF! "Lost Girls" versus "Garrett's Girls"!

Team 1:


Miss Mahoney - team captain
Nancy
Sue Ann
Cindy
Molly



Team 2:


Mrs. Garrett - team captain
Blair
Jo
Natalie
Tootie


This means, at the buzzer stand, the "'Facts' Face-Offs" would be:


Miss Mahoney versus Mrs. Garrett (a.k.a. Emily versus Edna)
Nancy versus Blair
Sue Ann versus Jo
Cindy versus Natalie
Molly versus Tootie


(Note: One may replace Miss Mahoney with Mr. Bradley if one wishes. Then it would be "Bradley's Brood" versus "Garrett's Girls", lol)

Oohhhh, to go back in time and make this happen!! :lol:

Lorimar Television
08-09-2019, 04:44 PM
Yeah that was a common look of 80's sets. So did you watch GMMB then, Eights?

'80sSitcoms
08-09-2019, 05:14 PM
Yeah that was a common look of 80's sets. So did you watch GMMB then, Eights?

Well, wasn't GMMB only on The Disney Channel? I do have a hazy beloved memory of seeing a few minutes of an episode at I think my grandparents' in the evening (they got a satellite dish when I was a kid), because I thought so highly of Hayley Mills thanks to her Disney movies (I'd seen "The Parent Trap" as a kid, and would see more when I was older).

Lorimar Television
08-11-2019, 02:44 PM
Well, wasn't GMMB only on The Disney Channel? I do have a hazy beloved memory of seeing a few minutes of an episode at I think my grandparents' in the evening (they got a satellite dish when I was a kid), because I thought so highly of Hayley Mills thanks to her Disney movies (I'd seen "The Parent Trap" as a kid, and would see more when I was older).

Yes it was on Disney

RetroGuy2000
08-12-2019, 01:52 AM
Weirdly enough, the original pilot of GMMB (https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=dQ9n_vzVOwY) aired on NBC. I watched it in 1987 on my local NBC station. Perhaps '80s saw it there as well?

Not sure why they used such a sappy theme song. I think that may be the same school set as Boy Meets World; it certainly looks similar, and it was the same production company (Touchstone) that produced both BMW and the GMMB pilot.

'80sSitcoms
08-12-2019, 10:55 AM
Weirdly enough, the original pilot of GMMB (https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=dQ9n_vzVOwY) aired on NBC. I watched it in 1987 on my local NBC station. Perhaps '80s saw it there as well?

mmmm, I don't have a memory of it, but it's possible! I just remember that hazy Disney Channel memory from my grandparents'.


Not sure why they used such a sappy theme song.

Wow...that sure is..."different", lol. I liked the cool sketches of her throughout her life though, those are neat.

'80sSitcoms
08-12-2019, 11:00 AM
This means, at the buzzer stand, the "'Facts' Face-Offs" would be:


Nancy versus Blair


[NANCY and BLAIR approach game podium, shake hands with fake smiles, place hands on podium]

[RICHARD DAWSON asks game question]

[BLAIR excitedly points downstage]

Blair: "LOOK! Nancy, isn't that ROGER out there in the audience?!"

Nancy: "WHERE?!"

[NANCY whips her head around to scan for Roger in the audience, while BLAIR slams down her buzzer with a smug, self-satisfied smile on her face. NANCY realizes she's been tricked and turns back around icing down BLAIR a glare-y stare]

OOOOoooooo! :lol:

By the way, for those of you who here who "know" 227, this is one of my favorite moments of a sitcom appearance of "Family Feud"! :lol:

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RetroGuy2000
08-13-2019, 12:13 AM
[NANCY and BLAIR approach game podium, shake hands with fake smiles, place hands on podium]

[RICHARD DAWSON asks game question]

[BLAIR excitedly points downstage]

Blair: "LOOK! Nancy, isn't that ROGER out there in the audience?!"

Nancy: "WHERE?!"

[NANCY whips her head around to scan for Roger in the audience, while BLAIR slams down her buzzer with a smug, self-satisfied smile on her face. NANCY realizes she's been tricked and turns back around icing down BLAIR a glare-y stare]

OOOOoooooo! :lol:


I knew that was coming! The writers would never allow Nancy to answer a question! That would entail giving Felice a line, and they already did that. :lol:

Now what is Blair's answer? Likely something snobby. :rolleyes:

RetroGuy2000
08-13-2019, 12:44 AM
I think part of it was the time slot. It seems to me like it came on really early in the mornings or something---obviously, that would be in syndication. I have no idea when it originally aired, lol. And wasn't it a cable show in its first run? I grew up with no cable.

GMMB originally aired on Wednesdays on the Disney Channel in 1988, and then moved to Saturdays in 1989. SBTB (the original series, anyway) originally aired on Saturday mornings on NBC because it was considered light kiddie fare. It later aired in syndication on TBS in the afternoons. For syndication, the producers even spliced in the GMMB episodes, using the GMMB episodes and replacing the original credits with SBTB credits to create a "Season Zero" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Saved_by_the_Bell_episodes#Good_Morning,_Miss_Bliss), bringing the syndication package up to (I think) 126 episodes.


She became a "Lost Teacher"! :lol:

She did, indeed! And, like Molly, she never talks about it. Ever.


Oo! OO! They could've done a FOL edition of FF! "Lost Girls" versus "Garrett's Girls"!

Team 1:


Miss Mahoney - team captain
Nancy
Sue Ann
Cindy
Molly



Team 2:


Mrs. Garrett - team captain
Blair
Jo
Natalie
Tootie


This means, at the buzzer stand, the "'Facts' Face-Offs" would be:


Miss Mahoney versus Mrs. Garrett (a.k.a. Emily versus Edna)
Nancy versus Blair
Sue Ann versus Jo
Cindy versus Natalie
Molly versus Tootie


(Note: One may replace Miss Mahoney with Mr. Bradley if one wishes. Then it would be "Bradley's Brood" versus "Garrett's Girls", lol)

Oohhhh, to go back in time and make this happen!! :lol:

Definitely! :lol:

Sue Ann vs. Jo: "She's gonna get beat, BAD!"

Cindy vs. Natalie: "If you're looking for a fight, you're going to get it!"

Molly vs. Tootie: "There's gonna be troubllllle...." :lol:

'80sSitcoms
08-13-2019, 10:03 AM
GMMB originally aired on Wednesdays on the Disney Channel in 1988, and then moved to Saturdays in 1989. SBTB (the original series, anyway) originally aired on Saturday mornings on NBC because it was considered light kiddie fare. It later aired in syndication on TBS in the afternoons. For syndication, the producers even spliced in the GMMB episodes, using the GMMB episodes and replacing the original credits with SBTB credits to create a "Season Zero" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Saved_by_the_Bell_episodes#Good_Morning,_Miss_Bliss), bringing the syndication package up to (I think) 126 episodes.

Haha, "Season Zero", that's awesome! :lol:


She did, indeed! And, like Molly, she never talks about it. Ever.

Lol, hey now, don't let's regress. She's started opening up in the last few years. :)



Sue Ann vs. Jo: "She's gonna get beat, BAD!"

Cindy vs. Natalie: "If you're looking for a fight, you're going to get it!"

Molly vs. Tootie: "There's gonna be troubllllle...." :lol:

:lol:

'80sSitcoms
08-13-2019, 11:14 AM
Whoa, check it out! GMMB has a FOL connection! :D

Broadcast

Original pilot

The original pilot for Good Morning, Miss Bliss aired on July 11, 1987, on NBC (in The Facts of Life's timeslot). Hayley Mills would be the only actress to carry over from the pilot to the series. Up-and-comers Brian Austin Green (who later got his big break on Beverly Hills, 90210) as Adam Montcrief, Jaleel White (who later got his big break on Family Matters) as Bobby Wilson, and Jonathan Brandis (who later got his big break on seaQuest DSV) as Michael Thompson were among some of the actors to appear in the pilot. Green was, in essence, the "lead" student in the pilot, a particularly serious student, who wore business suits.

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All this GMMB talk and my hazy memory of seeing Hayley in at least part of one episode on The Disney Channel at my grandparents' has me nostalgic to see the whole "zero" season. :)

Christopher
08-13-2019, 12:40 PM
Jonathan Brandis (who later got his big break on seaQuest DSV)


Really? That's considered his big break? I never heard of that show. I've heard of the actor from other work I would consider big. The Stepfather movies series is one of the best along with the original Stephen King's It movie.

'80sSitcoms
08-13-2019, 01:00 PM
Really? That's considered his big break? I never heard of that show. I've heard of the actor from other work I would consider big. The Stepfather movies series is one of the best along with the original Stephen King's It movie.

I dunno, I don't know the guy, lol. But his Wikipedia page says:

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In 1993, at the age of 17, he was cast in the role of Lucas Wolenczak, a teen prodigy on the NBC series seaQuest DSV. The character was popular among teenage female viewers, and Brandis regularly appeared in teen magazines.

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In looking at his filmography, I just saw him in a guest appearance on a season 5 episode of "Who's the Boss?" and didn't know it.

And wow, I had no idea he hanged himself at 27. :eek: Gosh... :(

Lorimar Television
08-13-2019, 05:34 PM
Blair: "LOOK! Nancy, isn't that ROGER out there in the audience?!"

Nancy: "WHERE?!"

[NANCY whips her head around to scan for Roger in the audience, while BLAIR slams down her buzzer with a smug, self-satisfied smile on her face. NANCY realizes she's been tricked and turns back around icing down BLAIR a glare-y stare]


:lol: I could totally see this :lol:

mmmm, I don't have a memory of it, but it's possible! I just remember that hazy Disney Channel memory from my grandparents'.




Wow...that sure is..."different", lol. I liked the cool sketches of her throughout her life though, those are neat.

Haha yeah, I prefer the Disney version of the theme better (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAzp6gdUqJw)

I dunno, I don't know the guy, lol. But his Wikipedia page says:

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In 1993, at the age of 17, he was cast in the role of Lucas Wolenczak, a teen prodigy on the NBC series seaQuest DSV. The character was popular among teenage female viewers, and Brandis regularly appeared in teen magazines.

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In looking at his filmography, I just saw him in a guest appearance on a season 5 episode of "Who's the Boss?" and didn't know it.

And wow, I had no idea he hanged himself at 27. :eek: Gosh... :(

yes very tragic :(

'80sSitcoms
08-14-2019, 09:56 AM
Yeah that was a common look of 80's sets. So did you watch GMMB then, Eights?

I would sure watch this spin-off from FOL season 1! ;)

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'80sSitcoms
08-14-2019, 05:31 PM
:guitar: :drummer: (in stereo where available) :drummer: :guitar:

Good morning, Miss Mahoney
Your fashion's very "crone-y"
Your awful hair
Permed way up there
Looks worse than fried baloney

Good morning Miss Mahoney
Your rabbits ride a pony
Your teaching style
Is fun, worthwhile
You're anything but phoney

Good morning Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiss Mahoneeeeeeeeeey! :cheer:

RetroGuy2000
08-15-2019, 12:28 AM
Whoa, check it out! GMMB has a FOL connection! :D

Broadcast

Original pilot

The original pilot for Good Morning, Miss Bliss aired on July 11, 1987, on NBC (in The Facts of Life's timeslot). Hayley Mills would be the only actress to carry over from the pilot to the series. Up-and-comers Brian Austin Green (who later got his big break on Beverly Hills, 90210) as Adam Montcrief, Jaleel White (who later got his big break on Family Matters) as Bobby Wilson, and Jonathan Brandis (who later got his big break on seaQuest DSV) as Michael Thompson were among some of the actors to appear in the pilot. Green was, in essence, the "lead" student in the pilot, a particularly serious student, who wore business suits.

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All this GMMB talk and my hazy memory of seeing Hayley in at least part of one episode on The Disney Channel at my grandparents' has me nostalgic to see the whole "zero" season. :)

Enjoy! :)

I think there are actually many links between GMMB/SBTB and FOL: Both NBC shows with NBC exec Brandon Tartikoff being involved in decision making on both shows. The FOL timeslot for the original pilot, both shows being (originally) set in a school, both shows having half of their cast axed after the first season (Nikki, Mikey, Miss Bliss, Mylo, and Miss Paladrino suddenly "went missing"), with only one adult school staffer being retained after the first season.

I do, however, believe FOL was a better show, with situations being more realistic, and not as many odd continuity issues that marred SBTB/GMMB. For example, we still hear from the Lost Girls on FOL, whereas with SBTB/GMMB, once a character is gone, he or she is gone. Forever. And never even mentioned again. The only exception I can remember is Zach once mentioning Nikki, during one opening scene introducing a "Season Zero" episode, presenting the episode as a flashback.

RetroGuy2000
08-15-2019, 12:36 AM
Haha yeah, I prefer the Disney version of the theme better (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAzp6gdUqJw)


Really? To me, that theme just sound like a rip-off of "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now". :lol:

But to each his own.

I guess it's because, for me, I never knew that version: I went from seeing the NBC pilot, to watching SBTB on Saturday mornings, to then getting (in the early 1990s) the GMMB episodes presented as SBTB, complete with the SBTB credits and Zach spliced in, presenting the "Season Zero" episodes as flashbacks. So I never saw the original credits until I saw them a few years ago on YouTube.

I do realize that's revisionist history, though: I feel very differently when someone calls Star Wars "A New Hope" or says Greedo shot first. I know better! :lol:

RetroGuy2000
08-15-2019, 12:54 AM
I would sure watch this spin-off from FOL season 1! ;)

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That's hilarious!

Who knows? Maybe somewhere, Carrie Bliss and Emily Mahoney are hanging out together, having "the best of times"! :lol:

Lorimar Television
08-16-2019, 10:26 PM
I would sure watch this spin-off from FOL season 1! ;)

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:lol::lol::lol:

Lorimar Television
08-16-2019, 10:27 PM
Really? To me, that theme just sound like a rip-off of "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now". :lol:

But to each his own.



Yes but thats part of why I like it ;)

Schmoopie
08-18-2019, 02:55 AM
You know that's interesting b/c I thought that "Over Our Heads" set looked kind of familiar. I liked it better on Saved By The Bell, though. That store idea was completely lame. They should have rebuilt Edna's Edibles, but that's for a different discussion!

RetroGuy2000
08-18-2019, 11:58 AM
That store idea was completely lame.

I agree, although at the time, I thought it was cool. I must have been, like, ten though.

They should have rebuilt Edna's Edibles, but that's for a different discussion!

I think it definitely would have helped keep Charlotte on the show. She was just so out of place in Fake Spencer's, and I think she knew it. Might as well put her in a goth outfit at Hot Topic and be done with it.

'80sSitcoms
08-18-2019, 11:50 PM
That store idea was completely lame.

"Oh Gonzo, like, that's a really lame idea!"

~Janice, The Muppets Take Manhattan, like, 1984


Might as well put her in a goth outfit at Hot Topic and be done with it.

:lol:

"Oh, deeeear...I dunno girls, does this look riiiiiiiight?"

lol

RetroGuy2000
08-24-2019, 02:57 AM
"Oh, deeeear...I dunno girls, does this look riiiiiiiight?"

lol
:lol: Totally!

Impressions
08-25-2019, 02:01 PM
Didn't Lisa Whelchel say she stole a blown up palm tree from the set once? :lol:

I doubt the set was used again, although the aesthetic was popular through the early '90s. I personally loved the glass blocks of the '80s.

On a related note, I noticed something interesting. I was recently watching Bring on the Funny on NBC. And in the second episode, there's a backdrop that looks eerily similar to the Facts of Life season 1 main living lounge. Instead of Eastland on the flag in the background on the wall, it says Danceland :lol: This was a parody of current music artists, and no mention of Facts of Life was utilized. Coincidence? Maybe, but this is from the same network that brought us The Facts of Life, so it's very possible they drew inspiration from the first season set.

RetroGuy2000
08-25-2019, 04:24 PM
Didn't Lisa Whelchel say she stole a blown up palm tree from the set once? :lol:

I doubt the set was used again, although the aesthetic was popular through the early '90s. I personally loved the glass blocks of the '80s.

On a related note, I noticed something interesting. I was recently watching Bring on the Funny on NBC. And in the second episode, there's a backdrop that looks eerily similar to the Facts of Life season 1 main living lounge. Instead of Eastland on the flag in the background on the wall, it says Danceland :lol: This was a parody of current music artists, and no mention of Facts of Life was utilized. Coincidence? Maybe, but this is from the same network that brought us The Facts of Life, so it's very possible they drew inspiration from the first season set.

HUH. I definitely see the resemblance you're seeing. Especially the door to the back, and the window next to the front door, as well as the staircase.

The Danceland banner, the old photos of classes on the wall, and the wallpaper itself, IMO, confirm it: someone deliberately used an Eastland VR set. :lol:

'80sSitcoms
08-25-2019, 11:35 PM
Haha, that's awesome!

And, *ahem*, that's "common room", not "living lounge" ;) (just using exclusive Eastland vocabulary, lol :lol: )

Lorimar Television
08-27-2019, 07:12 PM
That IS awesome! The season 1 set deserves more love

RetroGuy2000
08-27-2019, 10:47 PM
That IS awesome! The season 1 set deserves more love

I agree!

Still, it's kind of random. Don't get me wrong: it's great that the set was used (and even cooler that Impressions saw the episode and recognized the set), but it's so odd that there was no FOL tie-in.