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BobbyStBlues
06-26-2019, 08:08 PM
I'm sure this has been done before, but what are some of your most unpopular sitcom opinions?

dee2364
06-26-2019, 09:45 PM
I actually like Dick Sargent on Bewitched.

I never, ever liked Alice Kramden. I thought she was a colossal :censored:, Ralph's obnoxious behavior notwithstanding. I couldn't stand Audrey Meadows, either. Ironically, she was the best thing in Too Close for Comfort.

tlc38tlc38
06-27-2019, 08:48 AM
When I tell people I love “Mama’s Family”, they think I’m nuts....which is ok, cause I am. :wave:

Sal
06-27-2019, 09:57 AM
1. I like the 2nd Darrin better!

2. I like David Nelson better than Ricky.

3. I like the 2nd Gladys Kravitz better than the first. The first one was a total nutcase! I felt sorry for poor Abner who had to put up with both of them. He was the original Al Bundy.

4. The NHL is way better than the NBA.

5. TGIF was, as a whole, the worst collection of sitcoms in TV history.

6. "Happy Days" switched from filming with one camera to three in front of a live audience and boosted Fonzie's character in Season 3 (not Season 2, like some people have stated here before) because of stiff competition from "Good Times" (a much weaker show) and its breakout, one-joke star Jimmie "JJ" Walker.

7. "A Different World" jumped the shark in a big way after the first season when both Lisa Bonet and Marisa Tomei left the series.

8. "The Big Bang Theory" got better after Howard's Mom died. She was so annoying!

9. "The Cosby Show" was better than "The Jeffersons".

10. And finally.... Dr Ho is funny. Dr Ken is not.

stevea
06-27-2019, 10:04 AM
When you have fave sitcoms, Father Knows Best, Danny Thomas Show, Leave It To Beaver, My Three Sons, Mama's Family, and Everybody Loves Raymond, you're gonna be unpopular.

Oh, and the 2nd Darrin doesn't bother me at all.

KatieAnn
06-27-2019, 10:28 AM
I like second Darrin better, too.

I don't like Georgette on MTM, or Ted Baxter, either.

dee2364
06-27-2019, 10:38 AM
9. "The Cosby Show" was better than "The Jeffersons".


I don't think this is an unpopular opinion at all. That was the most beloved sitcom of all time.

mandyrenee
06-27-2019, 04:03 PM
I don't like "Leave it to Beaver".

I hate Smartphones and refuse to own one.

Mr. Television
06-27-2019, 06:09 PM
I like laugh tracks. Can't stand single cams with a few exceptions.

Edward216
06-27-2019, 06:38 PM
I like second Darrin better, too.

I don't like Georgette on MTM, or Ted Baxter, either.

I don't think Ted Baxter was meant to be that likable. But then again even when he did something that was meant to make him more likable to me he just wasn't. One of those characters that was better in smaller doses I think.

Ed.

Edward216
06-27-2019, 06:42 PM
The sitcom Two And A Half Men was NEVER funny.

Ed.

jehobden
06-27-2019, 11:32 PM
I prefer the later color seasons of THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW, mostly because I find Barney Fife annoying. He's good in small doses, and I like his return visits in color, but he grates on me when he's in every show. I also find Opie Taylor a more interesting character when he's older. (I feel the same way about Wally & Beaver Cleaver.)

treky
06-28-2019, 12:02 AM
I liked both Darrins on BEWITCHED

I don't like season 2-5 of I DREAM OF JEANIE; too "slap-sticky".

I could never see why people find I LOVE LUCY so funny; same with THE LUCY SHOW. They're ok in small doses but that's it.

I never found THE BIG BANG THEORY funny.

tlc38tlc38
06-28-2019, 12:35 AM
I like laugh tracks. Can't stand single cams with a few exceptions.

Completely agree!

tlc38tlc38
06-28-2019, 12:37 AM
The sitcom Two And A Half Men was NEVER funny.

Ed.

Amen!

jimpickens
06-28-2019, 03:03 AM
Friends and The Big Bang Theory weren't really funny.

tlc38tlc38
06-28-2019, 08:26 AM
I don’t like these shows...but MANY do:

Friends
The Big Bang Theory
Sex and the City
The Office
Game of Thrones
NCIS

tenter
06-28-2019, 10:21 AM
i always hate Mom. These should not deserve to air on Nick@Nite.

I just don't get why Friends on N@N is so popular and yet none of sitcomsonline actually talks about it nowadays. Why do these people watch Friends anyway? So overrated

KatieAnn
06-28-2019, 10:39 AM
I don't think Ted Baxter was meant to be that likable. But then again even when he did something that was meant to make him more likable to me he just wasn't. One of those characters that was better in smaller doses I think.

Ed.

I'm not sure if Ted was supposed to become this character who existed so the audience would laugh at how awful he was, and his appeal was supposed to be how unappealing he was, but I never enjoy anything about the character.

tlc38tlc38
06-28-2019, 11:18 AM
i always hate Mom. These should not deserve to air on Nick@Nite.

I just don't get why Friends on N@N is so popular and yet none of sitcomsonline actually talks about it nowadays. Why do these people watch Friends anyway? So overrated

I don’t like “Mom”, either.

If it were up to the members here, N@N would only air “Mama’s Family”, “The Facts of Life”, and “One Day at a Time”.

Greenbeans
06-28-2019, 06:36 PM
Three's Company has aged badly.

Ritter's cliché gay character is cringe-worthy. I just can't watch it.

Big D In Charge
06-28-2019, 10:07 PM
Jaleel White is an underrated physical actor


I prefer Amen over 227. (Love both)

I find the eighth season of All In The Family to be very underrated


Friends is overrated


Mad About You is underrated


WKRP'S 3rd season is underrated. Matter if fact that show had no bad seasons.


Martin never gets the probs for lmprov comedy

Drops mic

TSMIV
06-28-2019, 11:16 PM
Norman Lear is the most overrated TV producer ever.

M*A*S*H is the most overrated TV show ever.

Can't stand single cams with a few exceptions.
I kind of agree with this, but then I remember The Andy Griffith Show is probably the greatest sitcom ever. Other good single cams include Leave it to Beaver, Mister Ed, I Dream of Jeannie, Bewitched, The Wonder Years, etc.. I don't think it's the number of cameras that makes the difference, but the tone or the feel of the comedy and jokes.

icecream
07-14-2019, 09:38 PM
The final season of Growing Pains might actually be my favorite with the addition of Leonardo DiCaprio. One tiny issue though: he should have been billed ahead of Ashley Johnson in the opening credits, she added nothing to the show.

icecream
07-14-2019, 10:07 PM
Happy Days was still a good show worth watching after Ron Howard left. Henry Winkler did a great job taking over the lead role.
Every season of M*A*S*H is excellent, they handled cast changes well. And while Radar was a good character, M*A*S*H didn't drop in quality after he left. I liked Klinger adjusting to his new role as clerk.
Bachelor Father from the 50s is a much more enjoyable show than Father Knows Best from the same decade.
Paul Reiser is a fantastic actor.
Man With a Plan (Matt LeBlanc's current show) is much better than overhyped Friends ever was.
Married with Children is garbage that never should have been made.
Family Guy should have stayed cancelled.

icecream
07-14-2019, 10:09 PM
Norman Lear is the most overrated TV producer ever.
I am not a Norman Lear fan either, he was definitely the most overrated producer from the 70s.

Edward216
07-15-2019, 01:06 AM
I don’t like “Mom”, either.

If it were up to the members here, N@N would only air “Mama’s Family”, “The Facts of Life”, and “One Day at a Time”.

I couldn't agree more. Mom is just gross and disgusting garbage!

Ed.

RetroGuy2000
07-15-2019, 01:07 AM
I never liked Alice after the Polly/Linda dispute. Lavin's diva-like attitude ruined the show for me, even as a kid.

RetroGuy2000
07-15-2019, 01:09 AM
If it were up to the members here, N@N would only air “Mama’s Family”, “The Facts of Life”, and “One Day at a Time”.

I'd watch. :lol:

BobbyStBlues
07-15-2019, 06:51 AM
The final season of Growing Pains might actually be my favorite with the addition of Leonardo DiCaprio. One tiny issue though: he should have been billed ahead of Ashley Johnson in the opening credits, she added nothing to the show.

I agree, I thought he freshened up the show a bit after seasons five and six. I'd also add that it's too bad they didn't find him way sooner and and cast him as Ben because he's a way better actor than Jeremy Miller and they could've did more with his character when he got older. Miller was okay when he was very young, but he did not have the ability to carry an episode when he got older.

Seasons 1-4 are by far the best seasons in my opinion, though.

I also agree that Ashley Johnson added nothing to the show, but I do kinda like the episode where she imagines all the fun everyone has downstairs after she goes to bed.

BobbyStBlues
07-15-2019, 06:54 AM
I'll add a few of mine

Laverne & Shirley would've been better if Lenny, Squiggy, and Carmine were written off after the first season.

The Hogan Family was better with Sandy Duncan. I like Valerie Harper, but I feel like after they replaced her they decided to just had fun with it and everyone got a chance to shine more.

Some people don't get the love for Friends, but the 90's show I'll never understand why people like so much is The Nanny. It's overbearingly gaudy.

tenter
07-15-2019, 04:02 PM
Perfect Strangers was underrated because it hasn't aired on TV in syndication for years, since last shown on ION TV back in fall 2007. I know it's now on hulu.. But still it might be nice if it should consider rejoining N@N.

I also enjoyed Family Matters on N@N, they should reconsider re-adding to lineup.

If Nick@Nite is unable to add classics, then there's no point keeping the Nick@Nite block at all. An adult block on kids network is ridiculous!

MA
07-15-2019, 04:04 PM
I prefer the early seasons of Home Improvement instead of the later ones

I prefer the later seasons of Night Court instead of the later ones

Buffyboy323
07-17-2019, 03:08 PM
I think The Facts Of Life should’ve gone on for another season or three!

jimpickens
07-18-2019, 01:03 AM
The Facts Of Life and Different Strokes should've been one season wonders.

icecream
07-22-2019, 01:31 AM
While I like The Dick Van Dyke Show, I much prefer his deservedly long running crime drama Diagnosis Murder. It is one of the best crime dramas ever made.

andress_jade
07-22-2019, 09:14 AM
I hate Two and a Half Men.

Mom is stupid.

I don't like Seinfeld.

I don't like the Nanny.

I love Friends, Frasier, Home Improvement, The Golden Girls, Full House, Growing Pains, Dr. Quinn, Roseanne.

I don't like The Big Bang Theory or How I Met Your Mother. I think they are more overrated than Friends.

I like the second Becky on Roseanne better.

I think South Park, Family Guy, The Simpsons, American Dad, etc. are all trash.

icecream
07-22-2019, 03:35 PM
I hate Two and a Half Men.

Mom is stupid.

I don't like Seinfeld.

I don't like the Nanny.

I love Friends, Frasier, Home Improvement, The Golden Girls, Full House, Growing Pains, Dr. Quinn, Roseanne.

I don't like The Big Bang Theory or How I Met Your Mother. I think they are more overrated than Friends.

I like the second Becky on Roseanne better.

I think South Park, Family Guy, The Simpsons, American Dad, etc. are all trash.I don't like How I Met Your Mother either, but it never had the popularity level first run of Friends. And HIMYM has flopped in syndication as well since ending its original run, reduced to the 2AM hour on WGN. Freeform it quickly got pulled from, and didn't last long on Lifetime. Meanwhile pathetic TBS might as well be renamed Friends and other occasional shows network with airing 6 full hours a day. Even their primetime ace The Big Bang Theory doesn't get that long of blocks compared to Friends.

Christopher
07-23-2019, 12:16 AM
I think season 8 of The Facts of Life is just as good as the earlier seasons. Majority of fans don't feel this way. I mentioned recently how almost 20 years ago a website called Jump The Shark listed the change in season 8 as the number one reason. Just because Mrs. Garrett left doesn't mean the show jumped the shark.

I also think The Facts of Life is better than the other female based shows. The Golden Girls get a lot of praise by critics and fans. I think that show is so overrated and repetitive. How many flashback episodes does a show really need to prove to people they ran out of ideas and just beating a dead horse? I don't understand the popularity of The Golden Girls or why it's so huge in the gay community.

I prefer the show (and character) Phyllis over Rhoda. I don't think CBS gave the show a chance to find an audience. Phyllis was just as funny as The Mary Tyler Moore Show or Rhoda.

I like the middle seasons of Roseanne (5 & 6) over the earlier seasons. Not a lot of fans do.


I never liked Alice after the Polly/Linda dispute. Lavin's diva-like attitude ruined the show for me, even as a kid.

You're not alone. Linda ruined Alice with her attitude. Diane Ladd wasn't a bad replacement but I feel because of Linda's jealousy, the writers didn't know what to do with her and made her an awkward phase until getting an actress Linda wasn't threatened by. I have not bought seasons 7 - 9 of Alice on DVD and I don't plan to. The show stinks in those later years.


I actually like Dick Sargent on Bewitched.

I did too. I only watch his seasons when rewatching Bewitched. Dick York came off too mean in a lot of his scenes. I don't think he had good chemistry with Elizabeth either. Elizabeth looked more relaxed on screen with Sargent than York.


I could never see why people find I LOVE LUCY so funny; same with THE LUCY SHOW. They're ok in small doses but that's it.

I used to love I Love Lucy but as I got older, I saw how outdated it was. The show really forced that message women need to stay in their place or else. I cringe when I see the scenes of Ricky spanking Lucy for doing something he didn't like and then her patting her butt afterwards letting us know he spanked her hard since it's still sore. I would never let kids see this show today because I don't want them thinking women need to be punished for having a mind of their own. I love The Lucy Show though. I watch seasons 1 through 3 a lot.

Edward216
07-23-2019, 01:51 AM
I agree, I thought he freshened up the show a bit after seasons five and six. I'd also add that it's too bad they didn't find him way sooner and and cast him as Ben because he's a way better actor than Jeremy Miller and they could've did more with his character when he got older. Miller was okay when he was very young, but he did not have the ability to carry an episode when he got older.

Seasons 1-4 are by far the best seasons in my opinion, though.

I also agree that Ashley Johnson added nothing to the show, but I do kinda like the episode where she imagines all the fun everyone has downstairs after she goes to bed.

I completely disagree. Adding Leonardo DiCaprio did nothing for Growing Pains, I thought he was annoying and boring. But then I'll agree the actress who played the older Chrissy didn't do anything for the show either.

Ed.

Svenfan1234
07-23-2019, 10:09 AM
While I like The Dick Van Dyke Show, I much prefer his deservedly long running crime drama Diagnosis Murder. It is one of the best crime dramas ever made.

Diagnosis Murder sucks. It's one of the worst shows ever made. The Dick Van Dyke Show is one of the best sitcoms ever made.

Svenfan1234
07-23-2019, 10:11 AM
I don't care at all for the original Hawaii Five-0 or MacGyver, both are bad in my opinion.

jimpickens
07-23-2019, 09:20 PM
Mork and Mindy was a terrible show nothing more than a 30 minute Robin Williams stand up routine.

dee2364
07-24-2019, 07:45 AM
I used to love I Love Lucy but as I got older, I saw how outdated it was. The show really forced that message women need to stay in their place or else. I cringe when I see the scenes of Ricky spanking Lucy for doing something he didn't like and then her patting her butt afterwards letting us know he spanked her hard since it's still sore. I would never let kids see this show today because I don't want them thinking women need to be punished for having a mind of their own. I love The Lucy Show though. I watch seasons 1 through 3 a lot.

The show was not about women needing to stay in their place "or else." (If that were true, Ethel would've never stood up to Fred or given as good as she got.) The point of the show is that Lucy was a screwball who often came up with crazy schemes that wound up creating a mess of things. Plus, she often acted like a stupid brat (never backing down when people told her, "No, you can't,"), so that is why Ricky spanked her.

It was also pretty much established that because Ricky was "latin", he was a macho guy with an explosive temper, and therefore not representative of the average American husband when he'd go on these tirades or spank Lucy.

Heenan Fan
07-24-2019, 05:56 PM
Showtime's shameless is one of my all-time favorite tv shows. It's a masterpiece in dramedy. But most people don't like it because of the controversial storylines, nudity, and cursing. If anyone hasn't seen it yet, check out season one and binge. It's great, although the new writers after season 6 were horrible. Seasons 1-5 are great though.

jimpickens
07-24-2019, 10:37 PM
My Name Is Earl really got the shaft both in syndication and never receiving a proper send off.

mandyrenee
08-01-2019, 12:18 PM
I think these shows are awful.

Leave it to Beaver (A very corny and overrated sitcom)
Roseanne
The Golden Girls
Mama's Family

Plus all of the newer sitcoms of today are stupid.

Heenan Fan
08-01-2019, 06:06 PM
Although she was portrayed as a big nerd, I actually thought Carol Seaver was a hot young lady from seasons 2-4, especially when she wore her glasses.

I'm talking about real time in 1987 obviously, I'm not a perv. :lol:

icecream
08-04-2019, 08:08 PM
The Princess Bride (directed by Rob Reiner and produced by Norman Lear) is much better than All of the Family or any other sitcom created by Lear. Princess Bride definitely has a fan base, but probably not too many fans from this site.

Heenan Fan
08-05-2019, 02:47 AM
I think these shows are awful.

Leave it to Beaver (A very corny and overrated sitcom)
Roseanne
The Golden Girls
Mama's Family

Plus all of the newer sitcoms of today are stupid.

Mostly agree with you, but The Golden Girls is hilarious. Especially the early Susan Harris penned episodes.

Heenan Fan
08-05-2019, 03:06 AM
The Princess Bride (directed by Rob Reiner and produced by Norman Lear) is much better than All of the Family or any other sitcom created by Lear. Princess Bride definitely has a fan base, but probably not too many fans from this site.

To me, comparing AITF or any other Norman Lear/Bud Yorkin sitcoms to The Princess Bride is unfair. It's a movie set in midevil times against a sitcom set in the 1970's, despite the obvious tie in with Norman Lear and Rob Reiner. Apples to oranges at best.

That being said, count me as a big The Princess Bride fan, catsrule. Great movie!

andress_jade
08-06-2019, 01:47 AM
I agree, I thought he freshened up the show a bit after seasons five and six. I'd also add that it's too bad they didn't find him way sooner and and cast him as Ben because he's a way better actor than Jeremy Miller and they could've did more with his character when he got older. Miller was okay when he was very young, but he did not have the ability to carry an episode when he got older.

Seasons 1-4 are by far the best seasons in my opinion, though.

I also agree that Ashley Johnson added nothing to the show, but I do kinda like the episode where she imagines all the fun everyone has downstairs after she goes to bed.

I like Ashley Johnson and the character of Chrissy. I thought Jeremy Miller was a fine actor throughout the show and I didn't think Leo as Luke was necessary although I did like him.

UMFaninMD
08-06-2019, 02:47 PM
Little House on the Prairie is overrated, and many of the episodes/storylines really shouldn't qualify it as a show all ages can watch.

Heenan Fan
08-08-2019, 01:43 AM
My Name Is Earl really got the shaft both in syndication and never receiving a proper send off.

But the show was awful.

jimpickens
08-08-2019, 04:19 AM
The season where he was in prison and in a coma was bad but it was just getting better when it was canceled.

Heenan Fan
08-08-2019, 01:05 PM
I like the later years of MASH much better than the funny early years, especially after Alan Alda took over and started shoving his politics down our throat...ha ha, just kidding! :lol:

icecream
08-10-2019, 12:00 AM
The Vincent D'Onofrio episodes of Law and Order: Criminal Intent are much better than Special Victims Unit (SVU) ever was.

Crusinforabrusin2.5
08-10-2019, 07:54 AM
Barney Miller is lame

I despise Bewitched

My Mother the Car is a great show

Too2muchtv
08-19-2019, 10:40 AM
I like the later years of MASH much better than the funny early years, especially after Alan Alda took over and started shoving his politics down our throat...ha ha, just kidding! :lol:

Alan Alda is the worst part about MASH, he’s an annoying actor and Klinger was a total jerk as a character. Too bad he’s the main character, he’s the only part about the show I can’t stand!

Too2muchtv
08-19-2019, 10:43 AM
Probably the most unpopular opinion on this board – I love westerns! Prefer them to most sitcoms.

jimpickens
08-21-2019, 12:18 AM
Westerns do tend to have more better acting and better story telling.

Fleet
08-23-2019, 02:20 PM
Probably the most unpopular opinion on this board – I love westerns! Prefer them to most sitcoms.

Me, too. Some had a good combination of drama, action and comedy.

Westerns do tend to have more better acting and better story telling.

And even morals. My favorites are "The Rifleman" and "Bonanza." The lead characters showed morals and honesty as a way to live.

icecream
08-23-2019, 03:12 PM
I like the Seinfeld series finale, not many shows would have all those recurring characters come back at the end. I also like the M*A*S*H series finale, it is too bad WGN and TV Land don't air that with the rest of the show.

MA
08-23-2019, 03:29 PM
I like the Seinfeld series finale, not many shows would have all those recurring characters come back at the end. I also like the M*A*S*H series finale, it is too bad WGN and TV Land don't air that with the rest of the show.

Who does air the MASH series finale?

icecream
08-23-2019, 04:05 PM
Who does air the MASH series finale?No one has in awhile. A real shame since that was a record breaking finale for ratings.

MA
08-23-2019, 05:09 PM
No one has in awhile. A real shame since that was a record breaking finale for ratings.

So none of the networks and channels who currently air it don't show the finale?

icecream
12-04-2019, 10:18 PM
Split Second is a much better game show hosted by Monty Hall than Let's Make a Deal.

jimpickens
12-05-2019, 05:52 AM
METV aired the MASH finale last month.

MA
12-05-2019, 07:24 AM
METV aired the MASH finale last month.

I did see something about it.

jimpickens
12-06-2019, 03:57 AM
Yep they pretty much hyped it from mid October to when they aired it.

MA
12-06-2019, 07:31 AM
Yep they pretty much hyped it from mid October to when they aired it.

And I also remember that they did interviews with the cast about it.

broadmoor
12-06-2019, 11:30 AM
Probably the most unpopular opinion on this board – I love westerns! Prefer them to most sitcoms.

Oh, count me in as a fan of older tv-westerns also. Sitting back and watching such shows is like a refreshing return to sanity, and a most needed respite away from the current, depraved, freak-show culture of circa-2019.

jimpickens
12-06-2019, 10:39 PM
Agree 100%

SitcomsHeydayfan
12-06-2019, 11:13 PM
Seinfeld and Friends are NOT funny.

jimpickens
12-07-2019, 12:36 AM
Cheers was never all that funny to begin with.

Sal
12-07-2019, 11:51 PM
All of the TGIF sitcoms on ABC in the 80s and 90s were a humongous load of toxic waste and extreme fecal matter. It was the worst programming block in the history of US TV and people are still nostalgic about it like they are remembering a lost puppy. Those shows all sucked badly!!!

dee2364
12-08-2019, 12:02 AM
All of the TGIF sitcoms on ABC in the 80s and 90s were a humongous load of toxic waste and extreme fecal matter. It was the worst programming block in the history of US TV and people are still nostalgic about it like they are remembering a lost puppy. Those shows all sucked badly!!!

Even Dinosaurs?

Crusinforabrusin2.5
12-08-2019, 11:05 AM
How I Met your Mother is better than Friends

Not all new Sitcoms are bad

Many Old Sitcoms aren't as good as you think they are

MA
12-08-2019, 05:29 PM
The John Larroquette Show and Dave's World are both underrated shows and should've had more seasons.

treky
12-09-2019, 02:32 AM
STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE should have run at least 7 seasons like the other ST shows.

70s show watcher
12-10-2019, 05:22 AM
I'll add a few of mine

Laverne & Shirley would've been better if Lenny, Squiggy, and Carmine were written off after the first season.

The Hogan Family was better with Sandy Duncan. I like Valerie Harper, but I feel like after they replaced her they decided to just had fun with it and everyone got a chance to shine more.

Some people don't get the love for Friends, but the 90's show I'll never understand why people like so much is The Nanny. It's overbearingly gaudy.i liked lenny and squiggy but i agree about carmine he was just plain annoying

70s show watcher
12-10-2019, 05:24 AM
The John Larroquette Show and Dave's World are both underrated shows and should've had more seasons.i agree i liked both of those shows

70s show watcher
12-10-2019, 05:28 AM
Diagnosis Murder sucks. It's one of the worst shows ever made. The Dick Van Dyke Show is one of the best sitcoms ever made.i agree on both counts

70s show watcher
12-10-2019, 05:36 AM
when i watch the andy griffth show i find that i can only stand aunt bea in small doses also here is something that i have taken some flack from other snl fans for jan hooks was a very overrated cast member

dee2364
12-10-2019, 10:24 PM
when i watch the andy griffth show i find that i can only stand aunt bea in small doses also here is something that i have taken some flack from other snl fans for jan hooks was a very overrated cast member

I always thought she looked weird. The only place she only shined was on Third Rock from the Sun, but that's only because she looked like Mrs. Dubcek's daughter.

icecream
02-20-2020, 12:37 PM
Privileged is a much better Lucy Hale show than Pretty Little Liars.

SitcomsHeydayfan
02-23-2020, 09:17 AM
Cheers was never all that funny to begin with.

Neither was Seinfeld or Friends.

jimpickens
02-23-2020, 10:38 AM
True both shows tended to center around one premise which was what screwy petty situation has Jerry and company gotten themselves into or a group of pseudo Gen Xer's I believe only three of them were actually of my generation hanging around a coffee shop hooking up.

SitcomsHeydayfan
02-23-2020, 02:09 PM
All of the TGIF sitcoms on ABC in the 80s and 90s were a humongous load of toxic waste and extreme fecal matter. It was the worst programming block in the history of US TV and people are still nostalgic about it like they are remembering a lost puppy. Those shows all sucked badly!!!

Could you please list those shows again? They can't ALL be bad. I must've watched at least a couple of those.

Were Blossom and Hangin with Mr.Cooper on the list?

merlinjones
02-23-2020, 03:35 PM
Reruns of M*A*S*H* are a depressing way to transition from a work day into an evening of relaxation, yet it hogs up an hour of 7 PM time slots on various outlets in perpetuity.

jimpickens
02-23-2020, 06:45 PM
They need to cut back on MASH especially ME TV.

Schmo
02-25-2020, 03:16 PM
I think it was good that “Gilligan’s Island” ended after three seasons, even if it was canceled in an underhanded way. Ratings for the third season were the lowest by far, and Tina Louise wanted to move on. If the series was renewed for a fourth season, the audience would miss Tina and likely wouldn’t accept a replacement character if that was part of the plan.

factsoflife
02-25-2020, 03:57 PM
Could you please list those shows again? They can't ALL be bad. I must've watched at least a couple of those.

Were Blossom and Hangin with Mr.Cooper on the list?

Blossom was NOT part of TGIF as it aired on a different network (NBC). Hanging with Mr Cooper WAS part of TGIF starting with its second season.

Here is a list of shows that were part of TGIF (but far from a complete list):
Full House, Family Matters, Step By Step, Hanging with Mr. Cooper, Perfect Strangers, Sabrina The Teenage Witch, Boy Meets World, Just The Ten of Us, Dinosaurs and Clueless.

Here is a wikipedia link that discusses TGIF in full:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TGIF_(TV_programming_block)#First_run_of_TGIF_(1989%E2%80%932000)

SitcomsHeydayfan
03-01-2020, 12:31 PM
I think it was good that “Gilligan’s Island” ended after three seasons, even if it was canceled in an underhanded way. Ratings for the third season were the lowest by far, and Tina Louise wanted to move on. If the series was renewed for a fourth season, the audience would miss Tina and likely wouldn’t accept a replacement character if that was part of the plan.

NO WAY dude! Sherwood Schwartz had some great scripts for season 4 including the "Incredible Shrinking Gilligan"! :lol:

It would've been a great season even without Tina. Remember about HALF the original cast was re-cast after the pilot.

I can assure you 99% of GI fans wanted Gilligan's Island to go on!

jimpickens
03-01-2020, 12:55 PM
Tina wasn't in the movies and they did well.

cnnbcbs
12-14-2020, 06:27 AM
I'll take the later non-Richie years of Happy Days over the slow and boring early seasons, especially with that weird, single-camera 'movie' look. Yes, I generally prefer slapstick and broad comedy.

JustaViewer
12-14-2020, 01:17 PM
Here's a real kick in the head.
I cannot stand the Andy Griffith Show.
Loved it as a kid, it was my mother's favorite. And I will acknowledge the talent of Don Knotts and many early episodes are very well-written.
However, as I got older I noticed fundamentalists have a bizarre fascination toward the show. I knew a preacher who based a sermon series on several episodes, there is even Sunday School material based on the show.
Perhaps the fantasy and idealist world of Mayberry appealed to them. Idyllic small town (no pesky minorities) lots of homespun wisdom, everybody goes to the same church, lots of moralistic stories with happy endings.
I always preferred the Paul Henning rural sitcoms, especially Green Acres.
Don't hate me.

RetroGuy2000
12-14-2020, 01:48 PM
Here's a real kick in the head.
I cannot stand the Andy Griffith Show.
Loved it as a kid, it was my mother's favorite. And I will acknowledge the talent of Don Knotts and many early episodes are very well-written.
However, as I got older I noticed fundamentalists have a bizarre fascination toward the show. I knew a preacher who based a sermon series on several episodes, there is even Sunday School material based on the show.
Perhaps the fantasy and idealist world of Mayberry appealed to them. Idyllic small town (no pesky minorities) lots of homespun wisdom, everybody goes to the same church, lots of moralistic stories with happy endings.
I always preferred the Paul Henning rural sitcoms, especially Green Acres.
Don't hate me.

I don't hate you. In retrospect, Mayberry does feel very whitewashed. Not just in terms of race, but religion, lifestyle, etc. I haven't watched an episode in ages because in retrospect, the episodes feel like they are representing an idealized version of rural America in that era.

jimpickens
12-14-2020, 10:38 PM
The Beverly Hillbillies was an insult to mountain people I live in the mountains ( West Virginia) and I have never met anyone as ignorant and backwoods as the Clampetts and I've known some characters.

GentlemanJim
12-14-2020, 11:16 PM
Perhaps the fantasy and idealist world of Mayberry appealed to them. Idyllic small town (no pesky minorities)
I always preferred the Paul Henning rural sitcoms, especially Green Acres.
Don't hate me.

Who were the "pesky minorities" in Green Acres?

SitcomsHeydayfan
12-15-2020, 06:00 AM
Biden is a demented, senile, MORON!

JustaViewer
12-15-2020, 09:00 AM
Who were the "pesky minorities" in Green Acres?

It's pretty clear my observation was on the PERCEPTION fundamentalist and evangelical Christians have of the Andy Griffith Show as their paragon of reality. They use a fictional fantasy to form the reality of their choosing.
My comment on Green Acres is clearly a different paragraph. The Paul Henning comedies bordered on the bizarre and in no way can be mistaken for reality.

JustaViewer
12-15-2020, 09:11 AM
I don't hate you. In retrospect, Mayberry does feel very whitewashed. Not just in terms of race, but religion, lifestyle, etc. I haven't watched an episode in ages because in retrospect, the episodes feel like they are representing an idealized version of rural America in that era.

I believe the creators themselves said it was an idealized and nostalgic view of 1930s small town America. It did seem to exist in its own reality, untouched by the 1960s.
I would even go a step further and say it found its genesis in a series of short stories by Sally Benson which formed the basis for the 1944 film Meet Me in St. Louis. That was set in the early (and idealized) 20th century.

GentlemanJim
12-15-2020, 02:23 PM
It's pretty clear my observation was on the PERCEPTION fundamentalist and evangelical Christians have of the Andy Griffith Show as their paragon of reality. They use a fictional fantasy to form the reality of their choosing.
My comment on Green Acres is clearly a different paragraph. The Paul Henning comedies bordered on the bizarre and in no way can be mistaken for reality.


Actually, your use of the word "preferred" suggests a relational association with the prior thought process.

Making me suspect that it might be the harmony in Mayberry that you resented, considering that bedlam was the status quo in Hooterville.

Edward216
12-15-2020, 10:38 PM
Biden is a demented, senile, MORON!

Amen to that!! But you left out that he's evil as well.

Ed.

jimpickens
12-16-2020, 02:43 AM
And a jackass to boot.

RetroGuy2000
12-16-2020, 02:54 AM
I believe the creators themselves said it was an idealized and nostalgic view of 1930s small town America. It did seem to exist in its own reality, untouched by the 1960s.
I would even go a step further and say it found its genesis in a series of short stories by Sally Benson which formed the basis for the 1944 film Meet Me in St. Louis. That was set in the early (and idealized) 20th century.

I can see that some of that nostalgia can be a turn-off. I mean, when you see all the smiling, white faces and the mood is "Things are just peachy. Don't you just wish things were still like this?" When everybody knows things weren't so great for "them folks".

SitcomsHeydayfan
12-16-2020, 03:49 AM
Amen to that!! But you left out that he's evil as well.

Ed.

:thumbsup: :wave:

:yourock: :thanks:

SitcomsHeydayfan
12-16-2020, 03:49 AM
And a jackass to boot.

:thumbsup: :thanks: :wave:

jimpickens
12-16-2020, 04:17 AM
The Big Bang Theory wasn't as funny when all the guys except for Raj got girlfriends and married.

treky
12-16-2020, 05:07 AM
The Beverly Hillbillies was an insult to mountain people I live in the mountains ( West Virginia) and I have never met anyone as ignorant and backwoods as the Clampetts and I've known some characters.

oh COME ON!!

it was just a sitcom for gods sake!!:rolleyes:

dee2364
12-16-2020, 05:53 AM
I think these shows are awful.

Leave it to Beaver (A very corny and overrated sitcom).

You just reminded me--

I like the show...BUT...and here's the unpopular opinion...I HATED WARD CLEAVER! I think he consistently gets voted as "the best sitcom dad ever" but to me, he came across as so condescending, smug and holier-than-thou, not wise. I guess he was the 1950s ideal dad but I found him insufferable. There were a couple of times when I just wanted to deck him. :lol:

GentlemanJim
12-16-2020, 12:55 PM
I can see that some of that nostalgia can be a turn-off. I mean, when you see all the smiling, white faces and the mood is "Things are just peachy. Don't you just wish things were still like this?" When everybody knows things weren't so great for "them folks".

LOL, they should have had Barney Fife serving no-knock warrants, and Skippy and Daphne trollling the bus station.

GentlemanJim
12-16-2020, 01:12 PM
I think you guys do have a point though.
Up until I retired last year I worked in an antique restoration shop with 4 other "white haired old geezers"

We hired a younger guy as an apprentice, and he was sort of a "Mike Stivic" type person, always looking for a cause worth fighting, and never shy about trying to stoke white guilt as part of his repertoire.
Several were leery of his frequent "traps"

One Monday morning he asked me what I did all weekend, and I said "Oh, just the usual...watching Andy Griffith re-runs and listening to oldies radio".....and the others overheard that and recognized exactly what I was trying to do. And a good time was had by all.

Thereafter, that phrase became kind of a catch-all we'd use trying to tell the young guy when it was time to put a lid on it.

tenter
12-16-2020, 01:27 PM
The social media on nick@nite getting lot of complaints, ever since Young Sheldon joined, there were even MORE complaints, more than formerly when The Office joined nick@nite last year Jan 2019 (which lasted until May 2019). They are literally obsessed with Friends. I feel that most of the complaints, are from middle aged women, really out of their minds. But I think we can all agree sitcomsonline users know that Friends are already overrated and getting WAY too many airings on TBS and nick@nite.

RetroGuy2000
12-16-2020, 01:41 PM
LOL, they should have had Barney Fife serving no-knock warrants, and Skippy and Daphne trollling the bus station.

There's a nice YouTube video where Oprah, a huge fan of the Andy Griffith Show, talks with the only black person to have a speaking role on the show. It's nice because it shows you can be an admirer of a series, while still acknowledging its limitations.

PabLodqhrGs

TV Guy
12-16-2020, 01:54 PM
You just reminded me--

I like the show...BUT...and here's the unpopular opinion...I HATED WARD CLEAVER! I think he consistently gets voted as "the best sitcom dad ever" but to me, he came across as so condescending, smug and holier-than-thou, not wise. I guess he was the 1950s ideal dad but I found him insufferable. There were a couple of times when I just wanted to deck him. :lol:

You have some valid points about Ward Cleaver (and June). While I don’t hate him, I don’t get the fascination with him as a great TV dad. He was overly harsh with the kids for minor accidents happening (like stuff getting broken) and for just being kids in general. He and June were, frankly, cold towards the children a lot of the time (she more than he). They were unapproachable and the kids were afraid to go to him with their problems. No thanks - I lived that reality growing up.

Mike and Carol Brady were much better parents. They had a strong moral compass and weren’t afraid to discipline the kids when they needed it, but they had a more progressive parenting style, relative to the Cleavers, and they were warm, affectionate, and approachable.

GentlemanJim
12-16-2020, 02:43 PM
it shows you can be an admirer of a series, while still acknowledging its limitations.


Entertainment being exactly that, I always felt that "Living Single" portrayed an idealized narrative, as well.

GentlemanJim
12-16-2020, 03:08 PM
Conversely, one show that I always liked was "My Name is Earl", I could never figure out why that show didn't last longer.

Certain aspects of that plot were clearly designed to shock sensitivities, and (to me) that made it all the more enjoyable. BUT, not everybody sees that kind of shock as entertainment. And I try to respect that POV as well.

RetroGuy2000
12-16-2020, 06:06 PM
Entertainment being exactly that, I always felt that "Living Single" portrayed an idealized narrative, as well.

How so?

Friends portrayed a pretty idealized storyline, too, all things considered: Monica's huge NYC apartment with the giant balcony and window, and everyone has time to get together every week for coffee? And the couch is always free?!

Still, I adored that one, ignoring some of the bad/nonsensical stuff.

GentlemanJim
12-16-2020, 08:17 PM
How so?
.

I'd have to go back and watch the show to give specifics. I don't think that I've watched it since it was in first runs.

Maxine and Kyle were the only characters that I found believable.....and I'll admit that is really taxing my memory. The rest of the show seemed contrived to me.

BTW, I don't think that I've ever seen even a single episode of "Friends", jfyi

TSMIV
12-16-2020, 09:09 PM
Mike and Carol Brady were much better parents.

My unpopular opinion is I never liked Mike, Carol, nor Alice. They were all too silly (not to mention portrayed by lousy actors), but I did like the kids on the show.

cleverfun3000
12-16-2020, 09:56 PM
1. I like the 2nd Darrin better!

2. I like David Nelson better than Ricky.

3. I like the 2nd Gladys Kravitz better than the first. The first one was a total nutcase! I felt sorry for poor Abner who had to put up with both of them. He was the original Al Bundy.

4. The NHL is way better than the NBA.

5. TGIF was, as a whole, the worst collection of sitcoms in TV history.

6. "Happy Days" switched from filming with one camera to three in front of a live audience and boosted Fonzie's character in Season 3 (not Season 2, like some people have stated here before) because of stiff competition from "Good Times" (a much weaker show) and its breakout, one-joke star Jimmie "JJ" Walker.
https://i.imgur.com/sFsDsk3.jpg

7. "A Different World" jumped the shark in a big way after the first season when both Lisa Bonet and Marisa Tomei left the series.

8. "The Big Bang Theory" got better after Howard's Mom died. She was so annoying!

9. "The Cosby Show" was better than "The Jeffersons".

10. And finally.... Dr Ho is funny. Dr Ken is not.

TSMIV
12-16-2020, 10:57 PM
1. I like the 2nd Darrin better!

Both Darrens sucked.

Fallon97
12-18-2020, 01:43 PM
I think The Facts Of Life should’ve gone on for another season or three!

I think season 8 of The Facts of Life is just as good as the earlier seasons. Majority of fans don't feel this way. I mentioned recently how almost 20 years ago a website called Jump The Shark listed the change in season 8 as the number one reason. Just because Mrs. Garrett left doesn't mean the show jumped the shark.

I agree with the both of you.

dee2364
12-18-2020, 06:06 PM
You have some valid points about Ward Cleaver (and June). While I don’t hate him, I don’t get the fascination with him as a great TV dad. He was overly harsh with the kids for minor accidents happening (like stuff getting broken) and for just being kids in general. He and June were, frankly, cold towards the children a lot of the time (she more than he). They were unapproachable and the kids were afraid to go to him with their problems. No thanks - I lived that reality growing up.

That, too. There were so many moments when I sided with Beaver for that very reason. Who would want to talk to a father like that? Or let him know when you goofed up something? I sure as hell wouldn't!

I agree with you about the Bradys but my favorite TV dad of all time was Jim Anderson. He was just a normal guy who happened to be a father, not this godlike figure who had all the answers and everyone had to answer to or else.

Fallon97
12-18-2020, 07:05 PM
All seasons of "The Facts Of Life are great; However, seasons 5-9 (the later seasons) are my favorites.

I like Beverly Ann and I like Beverly Ann and Ms. Garrett as sisters. I liked that she looked out for Ms. Garrett's store/boarding house as well as keeping an eye on the girls for her sister. I think it was sweet. I also like Andy, George, and Pippa.

I think that "The Facts Of Life" could of went on for a few more seasons. The show never "jumped the shark" in my opinion.

I like the "Laverne & Shirley" California episodes (later years).

I liked the first season of "A Different World."

"Happy Days" was still good after Ritchie left. I missed Ritchie but I did enjoy the season when Linda Purl was on the show dating Henry Winkler. They made a good couple.

I like the last season of "Gimme A Break."

The last season of "I Dream Of Jeannie" was my favorite. I liked seeing Jeannie and Major Nelson as a married couple, and I enjoyed seeing her mingle with Dr. Bellows and Amanda Bellows.

The last season of "Charlie's Angels" is my least favorite but all the seasons were great. I like Shelley Hack and Tanya Roberts, and I think they deserve more respect as Angels. David Doyle and Cheryl Ladd deserve more credit as well. I also like Jill and Chris as sisters.

jimpickens
12-19-2020, 01:55 AM
Hee Haw should've ended around 1979.

cnnbcbs
12-19-2020, 08:44 AM
I sometimes enjoy later seasons because 'fading shows' tend to shake things up and it's interesting to watch different dynamics. For instance when HD added all those new characters in season 10 and dropped them in season 11. I generally find it boring when shows stay the same too much.

biffbronson
12-20-2020, 07:35 AM
I was pretty accepting of both Darrins on Bewitched, watching syndicated reruns as a youngster. I still think they were both well-suited to the role, but Dick York had some performances that now impress me more.

I was unfamiliar with Alice Pearce as Gladys until I later saw the b & w episodes, but I like her immensely. Both Louise Tates were nice-looking ladies, but I have a special fondness for the first one as I visit her old hometown practically every day.

The Jeffersons and A Different World: I mostly prefer both over The Cosby Show. I don't dislike Cos himself though, as I like watching his earlier work.

cnnbcbs
12-20-2020, 09:27 AM
Amen was better than The Jeffersons.

Didn't watch Friends, but enjoyed Joey and later Man With A Plan.

Two and A Half Men was a terrible show that became better after Charlie Sheen Left. The show def had a sillier vibe with the Kutcher/Cryer dynamic.

favoriteshow
12-28-2020, 08:58 PM
My unpopular opinion of the day was Tiffani Amber Thiessen as Kelly Kapowski on Saved By the Bell was overrated. I actually enjoyed the Tori episodes when Tori became a female protagonist and Kelly was missing.

The caveat however was Elizabeth Berkeley as Jessie was also missing from those episodes, so that was a loss.

But the show did what it could to get Kelly back on Saved By the Bell: The College Years over all the other girls, and made sure Zack ended up with Kelly. So Kelly was favored by the show or network, over Jessie, Lisa and Tori, even though I liked the other three better by the senior year.

Kelly just seemed pretty single dimensional- just play pretty girl in many of the SBTB episodes, and Tori was a fresh change.

jimpickens
12-29-2020, 12:07 AM
For those people who think that pro wrestling is more violent or became more violent over the past 25 years has never watched it in the the 70's and 80's I can name a few promotions that were brutal.

tenter
04-23-2021, 12:07 PM
I'm just going to come out and say it..

Full House airing on nick@nite isn't really a good idea to start with, now they've been cutting down to only weekends because of Young Sheldon taking a slots.

But with these another last minute changes, I can tell nick@nite doesn't want anything to do with Full House. Some few people in social media complained it.

I mean there are some other ways to watch Full House, like hulu. But I'm just expressing my opinion.


Also I wondered whether nick@nite aired The Office in Jan 2019 was a big mistake to begin with? It did lasted until May 2019, and never even aired on TVLand at all. The ratings weren't the problem, maybe it was for a little. I watched The Office for a little, it wasn't very family friendly feel.

Route66Fan
04-23-2021, 01:41 PM
oh COME ON!!

it was just a sitcom for gods sake!!:rolleyes:
Some people forget that the Clampetts were actually from Missouri & that Paul Henning was, himself, also from Missouri. There is actually several references to cities, towns & villages in Missouri, including: Kansas City, MO, Lee's Summit, MO, Independence, MO (Paul Henning's hometown.), Buckner, MO, Sibley, MO, Joplin, MO & (An obscure one.), Ripley, MO. There are also references to counties in Missouri like: Clay, Taney, Stone & Jackson, MO.

Mace Dolex
04-24-2021, 11:23 PM
Seinfeld is a funny show but is not the "greatest" show ever as critics put it, many good shows have come long after Seinfeld ended.

Three's Company even with the many cast changes was consistently funny and never jumped the shark IMO John Ritter was the glue that held that show together.

Three's A Crowd was a great spin-off and should have lasted longer.

Silver Spoons; Perfect Strangers; Growing Pains and ALF while popular in their heyday are excruciatingly bad.

Mr. Belvedere was very underrated.

SitcomsHeydayfan
04-28-2021, 10:38 PM
Seinfeld & Friends both SUCKED especially the latter.

tenter
04-29-2021, 10:37 AM
My other unpopular opinion was why would nick@nite air Friends at 9pm slot immediately after Nick program? It doesn't seem family friendly show to air but it's because of huge fan base.

icecream
05-04-2021, 11:47 PM
I liked April on Gilmore Girls, too bad so many fans hated her. Sure, Luke was an idiot not telling Lorelai about her sooner. But that wasn't April's fault at all.

jimpickens
05-05-2021, 12:58 AM
The LGBTQXYZ crowd is over represented on TV.

LUNCH
05-05-2021, 12:59 PM
The Ropers is a nice pleasant show.

Fallon97
05-06-2021, 05:06 PM
The Ropers is a nice pleasant show.

I liked the Ropers as well. I even liked Three's A Crowd.

SitcomsHeydayfan
05-07-2021, 12:28 AM
I liked the Ropers as well. I even liked Three's A Crowd.

Me too! :wave:

Both those shows are WAY better than anything on today!

SitcomsHeydayfan
05-07-2021, 12:29 AM
The LGBTQXYZ crowd is over represented on TV.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Agreed!

Svenfan1234
05-07-2021, 10:41 AM
My potentially unpopular opinions:
Diagnosis Murder sucked and was Dick Van Dyke's worst acting role ever.

Mark Harmon is an awful actor, always has been, and was a terrible addition to St. Elsewhere. One of the worst actors of all time who seems to have only gotten acting roles because of his looks.

Barry Van Dyke, although the son of Dick Van Dyke who is one of the best actors ever, is a terrible actor and always has been.

Candice Bergen is an awful actress and seems to have only gotten a start in her career because of her Dad, Edgar Bergen. She was almost insufferable as Murphy Brown, as much as I like the original show.

Gimme a Break is one of the worst sitcoms ever made. In every season. Nell Carter was a good singer but an insufferable actress who was very over-the-top delivering her lines. Nobody in that show was a good actor, they all seemed very stale, and it was just a terrible sitcom that hasn't aged well.

Cheers is miles better than Frasier.

And, finally, I personally like Becker. While not one of the top sitcoms ever made, it is one of the better ones from the late 90s and has a good cast.

Fallon97
05-07-2021, 11:13 PM
Me too! :wave:

Both those shows are WAY better than anything on today!

Exactly! :wave:

tenter
05-08-2021, 12:26 PM
SpongeBob airing on TeenNick is REALLY out of place to air, since TeenNick is supposed to be Nick's live action and not cartoons

jimpickens
05-08-2021, 04:41 PM
Criminals such as outlaw biker gangs and such are overly romanticized on TV.

KurtfromPitts
05-12-2021, 10:47 AM
Small Wonder was a more entertaining show than The Wonder Years.

cnnbcbs
05-12-2021, 09:33 PM
Small Wonder was a more entertaining show than The Wonder Years.

100 Percent agree!

favoriteshow
05-16-2021, 10:33 AM
Small Wonder was a more entertaining show than The Wonder Years.

I haven't seen Small Wonder in years and think it was more a show targeted for a younger audience. But I've never compared it with Wonder Years, and the only commonality is Wonder in the title. Small Wonder ran from 1985-1989, whereas Wonder Years started in 1988. So one year of overlap.

The Wonder Years started off well, or at least some aspects I liked. I like Kevin's parents, his hippie older sister, Kevin and his relation, reaction with them and the background of the stories often, including teachers and other people around Kevin.

But I never really cared for Kevin himself. Another kid could have been casted for the role and been more charismatic. Or maybe it wasn't Fred Savage per se, but the writing of how they made Kevin and how he reacted to situations. I never cared for his teen sagas he got himself in, and the show was often too much about Kevin and Winnie or something pretty boring. Wayne was kind of a single dimension and often a jerk to Kevin. Sometimes believable but I don't know if they ever had episodes of Wayne being more normal.

The musical score also helped. If the show didn't have it, perhaps it wouldn't be nearly as successful.

Mace Dolex
05-16-2021, 08:25 PM
Gimme a Break is one of the worst sitcoms ever made. In every season. Nell Carter was a good singer but an insufferable actress who was very over-the-top delivering her lines. Nobody in that show was a good actor, they all seemed very stale, and it was just a terrible sitcom that hasn't aged well.
.
Yeah I never liked the show I think I watched it because there was nothing else on, it seemed to be copying Diff'rent Strokes by having a sassy black character but female this time.

Edward216
05-18-2021, 02:54 AM
Roseanne Barr was never funny.

Ed.

KurtfromPitts
05-19-2021, 10:48 AM
I haven't seen Small Wonder in years and think it was more a show targeted for a younger audience. But I've never compared it with Wonder Years, and the only commonality is Wonder in the title. Small Wonder ran from 1985-1989, whereas Wonder Years started in 1988. So one year of overlap.

The Wonder Years started off well, or at least some aspects I liked. I like Kevin's parents, his hippie older sister, Kevin and his relation, reaction with them and the background of the stories often, including teachers and other people around Kevin.

But I never really cared for Kevin himself. Another kid could have been casted for the role and been more charismatic. Or maybe it wasn't Fred Savage per se, but the writing of how they made Kevin and how he reacted to situations. I never cared for his teen sagas he got himself in, and the show was often too much about Kevin and Winnie or something pretty boring. Wayne was kind of a single dimension and often a jerk to Kevin. Sometimes believable but I don't know if they ever had episodes of Wayne being more normal.

The musical score also helped. If the show didn't have it, perhaps it wouldn't be nearly as successful.Once when I worked at a supermarket I discussed The Wonder Years with a co-worker who didn't like it and she said she preferred Small Wonder over TWY.

jimpickens
05-22-2021, 12:53 AM
Jefferson D'Arcy was better than Steve Rhodes.

MA
06-10-2021, 01:11 PM
I prefer the live action The Addams Family movie versions of the following characters:

Cousin Itt

Lurch

Uncle Fester

Grandmama

I find Cousin Itt on the original TV show to be annoying.

Reinhold_Weege
06-13-2021, 01:02 PM
Jefferson D'Arcy was better than Steve Rhodes.

I agree.

Reinhold_Weege
06-13-2021, 02:24 PM
The Simpsons should have ended 20 years ago. Law and Order SVU should have ended 15 years ago.

TVLegend
06-16-2021, 02:53 PM
It’s A Living started to decline when Crystal Bernard got added to the cast in the third season and got even worse when Ann Jillian left and later when Howard married Nancy.

MA
06-16-2021, 03:53 PM
I'm not a fan of the character Bulldog on Frasier.

shotzette
06-16-2021, 06:29 PM
I actually like Dick Sargent on Bewitched.



Same!! I couldn't stand Dick York! I thought he was creepy when I was a little kid, and I never understood why Sam didn't leave him. Yuck!

shotzette
06-16-2021, 06:33 PM
Conversely, one show that I always liked was "My Name is Earl", I could never figure out why that show didn't last longer.

Certain aspects of that plot were clearly designed to shock sensitivities, and (to me) that made it all the more enjoyable. BUT, not everybody sees that kind of shock as entertainment. And I try to respect that POV as well.

I was a big Earl fan! The show was wonderfully satirical and had some great talent in it.

shotzette
06-16-2021, 06:43 PM
The Season 6 move to California didn't kill Laverne & Shirley; the writers were just out of ideas and the cast wanted to move on to other projects.

Father Knows Best had some really creepy undertones. Jim Anderson always looked like he was on the verge of a nervous breakdown.

That Girl's Ann Marie was a self absorbed brat.

Welcome Back, Kotter had the worst writing in the history of television.

Men of a Certain Age was wonderful and should have had a longer run.

Enterprise was better than Voyager; fight me!

King and Maxwell was wonderful and should have had a longer run.

Agents of Shield should have ended after the first season. It was all downhill after that.

Reinhold_Weege
06-16-2021, 08:22 PM
Agents of Shield should have ended after the first season. It was all downhill after that.

:clap: I agree.

RetroGuy2000
06-16-2021, 09:16 PM
Welcome Back, Kotter had the worst writing in the history of television.

I'm afraid that award goes to Small Wonder. :lol:

cnnbcbs
06-24-2021, 04:48 PM
I'm afraid that award goes to Small Wonder. :lol:

Here's mine: Small Wonder was corny but it was good, family fun.

jimpickens
06-24-2021, 11:04 PM
Happy Days should've ended around 1978 and returned around 1982.

DJM77
07-03-2021, 04:15 PM
Cosby was funnier than The Cosby Show.

MA
07-03-2021, 04:16 PM
I like the later seasons of The Cosby Show compared to the earlier ones.

favoriteshow
07-04-2021, 11:52 AM
Three's Company should have had at least season with a black roommate. Maybe played by Esther Rolle, an older roommate, Whoopi Goldberg, at the time was young, or Jackee who was sassy.

It would have provided a better change to the series, after Suzanne Somers. The writers wouldn't have had to tackle difficult themes like racial inequity or excessive police force very directly, like other 80's sitcoms or nowadays woke programming, but maybe indirectly or in rather humorous way, apt for Three's Company.

principehomura
07-04-2021, 12:55 PM
I don't know if it's unpopular, but most of Frasier's secondary characters are anoying and unworthy of the show.

70s show watcher
07-04-2021, 07:42 PM
My potentially unpopular opinions:
Diagnosis Murder sucked and was Dick Van Dyke's worst acting role ever.

Mark Harmon is an awful actor, always has been, and was a terrible addition to St. Elsewhere. One of the worst actors of all time who seems to have only gotten acting roles because of his looks.

Barry Van Dyke, although the son of Dick Van Dyke who is one of the best actors ever, is a terrible actor and always has been.

Candice Bergen is an awful actress and seems to have only gotten a start in her career because of her Dad, Edgar Bergen. She was almost insufferable as Murphy Brown, as much as I like the original show.

Gimme a Break is one of the worst sitcoms ever made. In every season. Nell Carter was a good singer but an insufferable actress who was very over-the-top delivering her lines. Nobody in that show was a good actor, they all seemed very stale, and it was just a terrible sitcom that hasn't aged well.

Cheers is miles better than Frasier.

And, finally, I personally like Becker. While not one of the top sitcoms ever made, it is one of the better ones from the late 90s and has a good cast.I like gimmie a break and always have but I cant stand diagnosis murder

icecream
07-09-2021, 10:24 PM
Sister, Sister, is a much, much better black 90s sitcom than The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.

Dude111
07-09-2021, 10:35 PM
We all have major diff opinions on things........

Mace Dolex
07-10-2021, 11:42 PM
The Simpsons should have ended 20 years ago.
My preferred way would have been this:

The Simpsons while still on top would have ended after season 10 but would continue only with their annual Treehouse Of Terror Halloween specials for another ten years and then when nostalgia for Simpsons kicked in would we be treated with a renewed interest for new Simpsons episodes.

icecream
07-30-2021, 06:32 PM
Coach is a much better Phil Rosenthal show than Everybody Loves Raymond.

DJM77
08-12-2021, 07:35 PM
I'd take the first season of That's My Mama over any season of Good Times.

DJM77
09-05-2021, 09:41 AM
I didn't mind Ricky from The Partridge Family (even though he couldn't sing).

Furienna
09-06-2021, 10:00 AM
I like the later seasons of The Cosby Show compared to the earlier ones.
I think I must agree about this one, because I really liked Pam and her friend Charmaine.

That's a good entry for this thread by the way, that I happen to like them instead of hating them like most other people seem to do.

hatwink
09-10-2021, 11:55 AM
In all reality, Good Times should have ended in 1978.

MA
09-11-2021, 06:13 AM
I think I must agree about this one, because I really liked Pam and her friend Charmaine.

That's a good entry for this thread by the way, that I happen to like them instead of hating them like most other people seem to do.

Thank you.

factsoflife
09-18-2021, 12:18 AM
Designing Women is at times much funnier than The Golden Girls, and its characters more realistic.

Joey is the worst character on Friends.

HauntedThunderman94
03-24-2022, 10:21 PM
I like the last season of Gimme of Break in New York and will gladly watch over the first two seasons which I'm not a big fan of. Seasons 3-6 > Seasons 1-2

Mace Dolex
03-24-2022, 11:11 PM
Here's mine: Small Wonder was corny but it was good, family fun.
I'll take that over junk like Full House.

Furienna
03-25-2022, 07:04 AM
Now I have come up with four entries for this thread:

1: I don't feel that Cliff and Claire from "The Cosby Show" were good parents at all.
But it was like we were supposed to adore them anyway just because they were a doctor and a lawyer.
2: I don't believe that we can blame Judy's disappearance from "Family Matters" on Steve Urkel.
They still had room for other characters, but no writer was interested in poor Judy.
3: I really don't like how "That '70s show" played drug use and even a dog getting high for laughs.
I don't see how that was funny in any way.
4: I don't feel that Steve's wacky inventions ruined "Family Matters".
Sure, it is true that those plotlines hardly were as realistic as others on the same show.
But I feel that there was a much worse problem going on...

jimpickens
03-25-2022, 09:26 PM
70's 80's and 90's sitcoms are overrated and 2000's sitcoms are underrated.

icecream
05-01-2022, 05:14 PM
Abbott Elementary is a bloody awful, unfunny show. I dropped that dreck after seeing the first two episodes.

KurtfromPitts
05-04-2022, 10:57 AM
The second theme to Gimme A Break was better than the first one.

Big D In Charge
05-04-2022, 11:20 AM
season 6 is my fav season next to season 1. I actually thought Olivia had a more natural comedic side than Rudy

dougiezerts
05-08-2022, 11:58 AM
I actually enjoy the episodes of Laverne and Shirley where the girls moved to California. That is until Shirley was written out of it.

Fallon97
05-11-2022, 02:30 PM
I actually enjoy the episodes of Laverne and Shirley where the girls moved to California. That is until Shirley was written out of it.

I enjoy the California episodes as well.

favoriteshow
05-15-2022, 10:46 PM
I liked some of the peripheral characters in early seasons that were written off the series.

On Beverly Hills, 90210, Brandon and Brenda’s parents. They were eventually written off the series so that the show could focus exclusively on the young adults, i.e. Kelly and Donna, but the Walsh family mostly had disappeared.

On Step By Step, Carol’s mom and sister were written off of the series. I guess to put more emphasis on the annoying kids, led by Staci Keanan.

Furienna
05-16-2022, 10:19 AM
I liked some of the peripheral characters in early seasons that were written off the series.

On Beverly Hills, 90210, Brandon and Brenda’s parents. They were eventually written off the series so that the show could focus exclusively on the young adults, i.e. Kelly and Donna, but the Walsh family mostly had disappeared.

On Step By Step, Carol’s mom and sister were written off of the series. I guess to put more emphasis on the annoying kids, led by Staci Keanan.
Well, I can't agree with you that the "Step By Step" kids were annoying.
But I would have liked it if Carol's mum and sister were given some guest appearances later on.

jimpickens
05-16-2022, 10:11 PM
Archie Bunker was absolutely justified in some of his opinions and views and meathead was 100% wrong on everything.

Furienna
05-19-2022, 03:20 AM
Archie Bunker was absolutely justified in some of his opinions and views and meathead was 100% wrong on everything.
I wouldn't say that Meathead always was wrong, but I feel more sympathy for Archie.

jimpickens
05-19-2022, 03:59 AM
At least you pretty understood why Archie was the way he was.

Gemini_89
05-19-2022, 08:41 AM
Myra was the WORST character on Family Matters: she was a psychotic stalker but the fans give her a pass because she was "attractive". Plus I hate how her fans always attack the Laura Winslow character for no real good reason other than the fact that Urkel was in love with Laura from the very first episode.