So I've mentioned a few times in the past how I like noting some parallels between Peekskill and Ancient Greece, and I thought it would be fun to go into more detail on that (and I left the title of this thread all-inclusive in case anyone finds parallels in other mythologies).

In Greek mythology there were lots of gods, but the "12 Great Olympians" were the dozen gods on the "top tier" of all the gods, Zeus and 11 members of his family (well, some say Aphrodite is Zeus's daughter, but some believe in a radically different origin story for her). It can be fun to look for parallels between Eastland characters and ancient deities (they won't be exact parallels, of course, but it's fun to find identifying shared characteristics).

So, don your toga, and give praise to the "Facts"! :lol:

Nancy (NAN-cy) and Hestia (HESS-ti-uh)

In Greek myth, the king of the gods, Zeus, was 1 of 3 brothers, and they had 3 sisters. Hestia was the first-born of all 6 siblings, the goddess of hearth and home. She was the kindest and mildest of all the Olympians, keeping peace, remaining a pacifist, and not taking part in any wars, conflicts, or love affairs on Mount Olympus or down on Earth. She was also 1 of 3 virgin goddesses sworn forever to self-imposed virginity. When the gods Poseidon and Apollo both rivaled for Hestia, she swore upon the head of her brother Zeus to remain forever a virgin. Because of this sacrifice, Zeus granted Hestia the honor of receiving the first rites of every public sacrifice. Because she was so peace-loving and a pacifist, she rarely appears in any myths at all. Hardly any shrines were built to her because every hearth and house in Greece were in essence a shrine to her already.

Nancy was the "first-born" of the Eastland girls, in that she was the first one we met on a story level. She was often kind and mild. She took no part on the battlefield in "The Great Running War", instead gently comforting her fellow goddess Blair upon damage, and pining for peace when conflict was on the scene. Like Hestia, there are hardly any stories about Nancy. Even so, many of the Lost Girl fan base revere her as "the First of the Lost Girls". We always give her this position of honor and respect her as our hallowed introduction to the rich, mythical world of Eastland. Hestia was first of the gods, Nancy was first of the girls. Therefore, I feel it is only right that Nancy be given due honor of receiving the first comparison post.

All hail "Nancia"!

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HAHA!

That is truly great, '80s! Both the comparison and the altered (altared?) image. ;)

HAHA!
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That is truly great, '80s!
Thanks, this kinda stuff is such fun! (I also have a book I adore by a psychologist that looks at the Greek gods and goddesses as personality archetypes, and how they relate to us today---fascinating stuff)


Both the comparison and the altered (altared?) image. ;)
Ahhhhhh,hahahahaha! I see what ya did there! :rofl:
It looks like "Nancia" is saying, "Come, mortals, bring me your phones!" :lol:

Sue Ann (soo ANN) and Hera (HAIR-uh, or HE-ruh)

Hera was was a sister of Zeus and Hestia on Mount Olympus. She was the goddess of marriage, and patron/protector of married women. When Zeus married her she became queen of the gods. As goddess of marriage, Hera's view of matrimony was of course conservative and traditional, and she found favor with those who revered the sanctity of marriage. She scorned promiscuity, detesting Aphrodite's loose morals on sexuality and relationships. Hera also had the greatest wrath of any of the goddesses, and physically attacked fellow goddess Artemis when the gods turned on each other in fighting on Mount Olympus during The Trojan War.

Sue Ann is the most conservative and traditional of the Eastland girls. She strongly believes in what she considers "normal marriages", and would do anything in her power to prevent a divorce ("Keep out of this Blair, we're trying to save a marriage!"). Divorce is a concept which, to her, "sounds awful". Her beliefs on marriage are "It sure is sad when love ends", and "The American way is nice people staying married". She is judgmental toward Blair's attitude of casual sex before marriage, and of other girls being promiscuous. Like Hera, Sue Ann idealizes marriage and vows to not have sex until her wedding night. And Sue Ann can be prone to great wrath. In "The Great Running War" she lashes out to punch Cindy, but accidentally hits Blair, and then, not even giving her accidental victim a second thought, she strives to attack Cindy as best she can, not stopping even as the two girls are forcibly pulled apart. Sue Ann can even be considered "queen of the Lost Girls" as she was given more screen time, more stories, and more dialogue than all the other Lost Girls.

All hail "Sue-Ra", queen of the gods!

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Sue Ann (soo ANN) and Hera (HAIR-uh, or HE-ruh)

Hera was was a sister of Zeus and Hestia on Mount Olympus. She was the goddess of marriage, and patron/protector of married women. When Zeus married her she became queen of the gods.

As goddess of marriage, Hera's view of matrimony was of course conservative and traditional, and she found favor with those who revered the sanctity of marriage. She scorned promiscuity, detesting Aphrodite's loose morals on sexuality and relationships. Hera also had the greatest wrath of any of the goddesses, and physically attacked fellow goddess Artemis when the gods turned on each other in fighting on Mount Olympus during The Trojan War.

Sue Ann is the most conservative and traditional of the Eastland girls. She strongly believes in what she considers "normal marriages", and would do anything in her power to prevent a divorce ("Keep out of this Blair, we're trying to save a marriage!"). Divorce is a concept which, to her, "sounds awful". Her beliefs on marriage are "It sure is sad when love ends", and "The American way is nice people staying married". She is judgmental toward Blair's attitude of casual sex before marriage, and of other girls being promiscuous. Like Hera, Sue Ann idealizes marriage and vows to not have sex until her wedding night. And Sue Ann can be prone to great wrath. In "The Great Running War" she lashes out to punch Cindy, but accidentally hits Blair, and then, not even giving her accidental victim a second thought, she strives to attack Cindy as best she can, not stopping even as the two girls are forcibly pulled apart.

All hail "Sue-Ra", queen of the gods!

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LOL!! Lorsie bowing down to the "queen of the Lost Girls"! :rofl:

LOL!! Lorsie bowing down to the "queen of the Lost Girls"! :rofl:

"Queen of the Lost Girls" Thats very accurate

"Queen of the Lost Girls" Thats very accurate
Your "worship" inspired me to add on a final sentence to the second paragraph! :wave:

Your "worship" inspired me to add on a final sentence to the second paragraph! :wave:
Lollll

Gotta say, '80, nice job linking Sue Ann to Hera!

Any Molly or Cindy like goddesses?

Gotta say, '80, nice job linking Sue Ann to Hera!

Glad you like, I know you and Lorsie are her biggest supporters around here! :wave:

Lollll

Nice long laugh, btw :lol:

Any Molly or Cindy like goddesses?

Why Lorimar, funny you should ask... ;)


Artemis (AR-tuh-mis)

Artemis is the virgin goddess of the hunt and wild things, chastity, patron of young girls, and women in childbirth. In later times she came to be thought of as goddess of the moon, with her twin brother Apollo being god of the sun, but those offices were originally held by the Titans Selene and Helios, goddess of the sun, and god of the moon, respectively (the Titans being the line of gods who ruled before the Olympians). She was the daughter of Zeus and the Titaness Leto, one of Zeus's countless conquests whom he did not marry. Artemis fiercely guarded her chastity, and would never submit to any man or god.

As goddess of the hunt and wild things, Artemis loved the wilderness, preferring to spend her time in the forests and mountains hunting with her loyal band of chaste nymphs rather than keeping to the lofty heights of Mount Olympus.

In her role as goddess of the hunt, Artemis was a female in a traditionally male office. She played against gender stereotypes. She also had a fierce temper, her rage being second only to that of the Hera, queen of the gods. She easily became incensed at injustice and personal slights.

In later times, Artemis came to also be part of what was known as "the triple goddess", three goddesses associated with the moon (Artemis, Selene, and Hecate, as "maiden, mother, and crone"). In this regard, Artemis can be thought of as "the triple common goddess" (in the common room, ha!) associated in different aspects with three Eastland girls: Cindy, Molly, and Jo, linking them as "the triple goddess" of Eastland. They are also all linked by the common bond of, like Artemis, growing up with parents not married to each other.

Cindy (SIN-dee) and Artemis

Artemis could very well have been considered the "tomboy" of the great goddesses, and Cindy is the tomboy of the dorm. Cindy doesn't care to wear dresses and traditional "girls' clothing". Where Artemis is much more comfortable with a short hunting tunic and her hunting equipment of bow, arrows, and quiver, Cindy is much more comfortable with "boys' clothes" and sports equipment of baseball glove, hockey stick, and jump rope. ("See, this dress isn't me. I'm not Blair. I'd much rather have a baseball glove with a good pocket.") Artemis energetically led her band of nymphs through the woods and over the mountains on her hunts, and Cindy was a natural athlete who took easily to running long distance. ("Once she showed me how to pace myself, it was a cinch!")

Cindy is also prone to rage, striking out impulsively. Twice in "Rough Housing" she was indeed ready to "roughhouse" with Blair, and when Sue Ann pushed Cindy in "The Great Running War", Cindy immediately put up her fists and challenged Sue Ann to come at her. Hera and Artemis had the fiercest tempers among the Greek goddesses and fought each other in "The Trojan War", and their counterparts Sue Ann and Cindy were the two girls of the "Eastland pantheon" who came to blows with each other in "The Great Running War".

All hail, "Cindemis"!

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Molly (MAHL-ee) and Artemis

Where Artemis was confident in areas not usually connected to femininity (hunting, sporting), yet had a strong, unwavering sense of herself, so Molly is confident in hobbies not usually connected to femininity (ham radio communication, 35mm photography and film developing) and has a strong, unwavering sense of herself. Artemis remained independent and was not subject to any man or god, and Molly will not compromise her stance as a woman for any man ("No magazine's gonna tell me how to look!", "You're crazy starving yourself for some stupid guy you never met.")

As Artemis was a patron of women and the protector of wild animals and the young, so Molly is an activist for women and the environment ("Stop junking up America you turkeys!"). Like Artemis, Molly demands equality ("I don't trust a system where a man knows more than I do. I'd like to teach him a few things") and gets incensed at injustice, both to herself, and to others ("That's not fair! Why should you know all our scores, and not us??"---she also refuses to let anyone touch the infamous "tainted pizza" until the wrong has been righted). As a feminist, she is greatly offended when womanhood is denied or belittled ("We're women, okay, Mr. Bradley??", "No one's gonna judge me on my cleaveage!").

At the time of this writing, it is currently uknown whether the cinnamon bun was sacred to Artemis.

All hail, "Mollemis"!

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Jo (JOE) and Artemis

Artemis was not traditionally feminine and exhibited masculine qualities, yet she was found very desirable by many males. Jo is not traditionally feminine and exhibits masculine qualities, yet is found very desirable by many males. Artemis is nearly always represented with her hair pulled back or up, and Jo went through all of her Eastland years with her trademark ponytail. Like Artemis, Jo is quick to come to the defense of the young and those not as strong as her (some of her friends), and those not in as well a position to defend themselves (fellow scholarship students, the less fortunate). Artemis could also be wrathful, lashing out on impulse without caring about consequences, and Jo was subject to this as well. (Mr. Gideon, anyone?)

Someone very close to Artemis (her twin brother, fellow archer god Apollo) became very concerned when he felt Artemis was getting too close to Orion, a giant hunter whose company she enjoyed. Four someones very close to Jo (Mrs. Garrett, Blair, Natalie, Tootie) became very concerned when they felt Jo was getting too close to Eddie, by running off to elope with him. In both instances, the male in question became eliminated by her loved ones, and the goddess/student was free from any threat he may have posed.

All hail, "Jo-emis"!

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HAHAHAHA :rofl::rofl::rofl: Those pictures of Molly and Cindy!!!!! Great job Eights, you sure know your Greek mythology!

At the time of this writing, it is currently uknown whether the cinnamon bun was sacred to Artemis.

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HAHAHAHA :rofl::rofl::rofl: Those pictures of Molly and Cindy!!!!! Great job Eights, you sure know your Greek mythology!

Thanks, I've been re-reading some of my favorite Greek myth books lately.

I was hoping you guys would enjoy the surprise "triple goddess" aspect of Artemis with two-thirds of "her" being Lost Girls, lol.

Thanks, I've been re-reading some of my favorite Greek myth books lately.

I was hoping you guys would enjoy the surprise "triple goddess" aspect of Artemis with two-thirds of "her" being Lost Girls, lol.
Haha nice!

Haha nice!
I kind of regret putting the cinnamon bun bit in, because after all that work, that's the only thing Retro responded to! :lol:

I kind of regret putting the cinnamon bun bit in, because after all that work, that's the only thing Retro responded to! :lol:

LOL! Its worth talking about!

LOL! Its worth talking about!

Haha, true, cinnamon buns are always worth talking about!

I made reference to a different mythological connection last summer and Retro said something akin to "This is definitely something worth discussing", so that's why I thought this thread would be a "bigger hit" than it is, haha.

Blair (BLAIR) and Aphrodite (AF-ro-dye-tee)

Aphrodite was the goddess of love and beauty.

"Blairodite", or "Ablairdite", or "Aphroblaire", lol

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I can definitely see Blair as Aphrodite.

Haha, true, cinnamon buns are always worth talking about!

I made reference to a different mythological connection last summer and Retro said something akin to "This is definitely something worth discussing", so that's why I thought this thread would be a "bigger hit" than it is, haha.

Sorry. Work is kicking my butt right now.

I see Blair more as Juno: proud (Juno's symbol is sometime a peacock), and she is often depicted as a queen.

I see Sue Ann as Vesta, goddess of hearth and family.

Sorry. Work is kicking my butt right now.

I see Blair more as Juno: proud (Juno's symbol is sometime a peacock), and she is often depicted as a queen.

I see Sue Ann as Vesta, goddess of hearth and family.

Hmm I could see those

I can too, especially later seasons Blair as Juno or Hera, when she's much more conservative and traditional (sometimes loudly so).

But Hera is also a bitter shrew, so I can see that in Sue Ann when she's ultra-conservative and fighting with liberal Blair, sticking to her traditional guns.

And don't forget the inspiration for the legendary Greek myth of Jason and the Golden Fleece:

"Edna and the Golden Felice"!

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I can too, especially later seasons Blair as Juno or Hera, when she's much more conservative and traditional (sometimes loudly so).

But Hera is also a bitter shrew, so I can see that in Sue Ann when she's ultra-conservative and fighting with liberal Blair, sticking to her traditional guns.

"Bitter shrew"? Sue Ann?! :eek:

"Bitter shrew"? Sue Ann?! :eek:

Lol, I didn't mean that to sound as harsh as it sounds. :o It's just when they fight, Sue Ann does tend to get loud and overbearing and kinda shrill, and very intense. In "Adoption", she is not about to let Blair win at ALL.

So I can picture her playing Hera, bitter at her husband's extreme infidelity and insatiable appetite with anything that moves (regardless of gender or species), sitting up there on her golden Kansas City, Kansas throne steaming! lol

Lol, I didn't mean that to sound as harsh as it sounds. :o It's just when they fight, Sue Ann does tend to get loud and overbearing and kinda shrill, and very intense. In "Adoption", she is not about to let Blair win at ALL.

So I can picture her playing Hera, bitter at her husband's extreme infidelity and insatiable appetite with anything that moves (regardless of gender or species), sitting up there on her golden Kansas City, Kansas throne steaming! lol

Well, I can live with "kinda shrill" when in fighting mode, but I can't agree with "bitter shrew". :lol:

No, she's no Hera IMO.

No, she's no Hera IMO.

Well, she is to me, hence my comparison on page 1, lol. But just in the fun of the game---these girls aren't goddess clones. You have to search for what comparisons you can find and have fun with those.

And I'm still waiting for you to laugh at The Golden Felice. ;)

And I'm still waiting for you to laugh at The Golden Felice. ;)

Golden Felice is very cute.

Golden Felice is very cute.

Sorry I brought you down with the Sue Ann muddied meanings. I wanted to give a good hardy laugh without any hurt feelings, lol.

Now, I can see seasons 1 - 3 Blair as more Aphrodite (especially with some of those punishments Aphrodite whips out!), but actually later conservative, traditional Blair as more Hera.

Sorry I brought you down with the Sue Ann muddied meanings. I wanted to give a good hardy laugh without any hurt feelings, lol.

No need to apologize, '80s! Just keep posting, and I will keep smiling. :wave:

No need to apologize, '80s! Just keep posting, and I will keep smiling. :wave:

Except when we go to the mat on disagreements. :lol: :p :wave:

Except when we go to the mat on disagreements. :lol: :p :wave:

Mat? There's no mat in track! :lol:

Mat? There's no mat in track! :lol:

There's also no "Ann" in "Julie Piekarski"! :lol:

There's also no "Ann" in "Julie Piekarski"! :lol:
It's actually her middle name. :lol:

It's actually her middle name. :lol:

What?? Well, it doesn't belong in an ad when it's not on the show! :nonono:

:lol:

What?? Well, it doesn't belong in an ad when it's not on the show! :nonono:

:lol:
I agree, and it can only have led to confusion. This was on a show where the network executives already thought there were ten, twelve girls on the show. They would have been even more confused by the presence of multiple girls named Julie Ann(e). :crazy:

I agree, and it can only have led to confusion. This was on a show where the network executives already thought there were ten, twelve girls on the show. They would have been even more confused by the presence of multiple girls named Julie Ann(e). :crazy:

"Eggs"actly!

(a little post-Easter humor there :stooges: :lol: )

Haha! Very cute!

And don't forget the inspiration for the legendary Greek myth of Jason and the Golden Fleece:

"Edna and the Golden Felice"!

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Is she a Simpsons character now? :lol:

Lol, I didn't mean that to sound as harsh as it sounds. :o It's just when they fight, Sue Ann does tend to get loud and overbearing and kinda shrill, and very intense. In "Adoption", she is not about to let Blair win at ALL.

So I can picture her playing Hera, bitter at her husband's extreme infidelity and insatiable appetite with anything that moves (regardless of gender or species), sitting up there on her golden Kansas City, Kansas throne steaming! lol

SHREW?!?!? How DARE YOU sir!!!! :mad:

Is she a Simpsons character now? :lol:

Haha! :lol: Well, it's the best I could do, lol.


SHREW?!?!? How DARE YOU sir!!!! :mad:

Not that she IS a bitter shrew, but that she could BE a bitter shrew, if she were settled down and married in Kansas City, Kansas to a powerful man who ran around ravishing every woman, gal, and youth he could find, while she stayed at home stewing in her bitterness at her adulterous husband while SHE stays home tending the kids and home front, a la Hera and Zeus. In THAT context, lol. Based on her hard-headed arguing with Blair (who was also hard-headed, hence their butting heads), and her staunch beliefs in fidelity and tradition, I could see it in that future fictional context.

Haha! :lol: Well, it's the best I could do, lol.




Not that she IS a bitter shrew, but that she could BE a bitter shrew, if she were settled down and married in Kansas City, Kansas to a powerful man who ran around ravishing every woman, gal, and youth he could find, while she stayed at home stewing in her bitterness at her adulterous husband while SHE stays home tending the kids and home front, a la Hera and Zeus. In THAT context, lol. Based on her hard-headed arguing with Blair (who was also hard-headed, hence their butting heads), and her staunch beliefs in fidelity and tradition, I could see it in that future fictional context.

I'll allow it.... for now. :D;)

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Also, "Chloris" was a Greek nymph of springtime and flowers! Just add an "h" to "Cloris", and there ya go! :) In Roman mythology she became "Flora".

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What with all the "Loki" talk lately. :lol: