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View Full Version : June 4: 50th Ann. Set w/ “The Brady Brides”! tlc38tlc38 03-22-2019, 01:33 PM Coming June 4th: https://i.postimg.cc/Y2xCTFxb/DD75-DCEC-5695-4-E64-88-C0-E26-D4-E449827.jpg 1960'sTVfan 03-22-2019, 02:01 PM I've seen this news, I'm mostly interested in the original series, not so interested in the movies and spinoffs. I have all 5 seasons of The Brady Bunch on DVD, the individual season sets that Paramount released some years ago. I'll probably stay with those unless this new set corrects the minor edits that a few episodes have. On the Paramount DVD's, "The Honeymoon" episode is missing the tag scene, and a few season 4 episodes have small, minor edits. dakert 03-22-2019, 04:00 PM The set is missing The Brady Bunch Variety Hour 1960'sTVfan 03-22-2019, 04:35 PM Music clearance issues might have prevented the variety hour series from being included in this new DVD collection. It's also possible that CBS/Paramount doesn't own the rights to that series. TVFactFan 03-23-2019, 04:22 PM The set is missing The Brady Bunch Variety Hour I noticed that too which is why they are trying to promote all that other stuff lol Impressions 03-23-2019, 05:29 PM Excited to see the rare shows like The Brady Brides and The Bradys finally coming on DVD! I’m buying it just for that reason! I don’t care that it doesn’t contain the variety show, it would have been nice, but the show was just crappy camp. I would have also loved to see Pop Up Brady but I guess you can’t win them all. TVFactFan 03-23-2019, 06:18 PM Excited to see the rare shows like The Brady Brides and The Bradys finally coming on DVD! I’m buying it just for that reason! I don’t care that it doesn’t contain the variety show, it would have been nice, but the show was just crappy camp. I would have also loved to see Pop Up Brady but I guess you can’t win them all. Well atleast the Variety Hour is on youtube tlc38tlc38 03-23-2019, 06:27 PM I’m mostly excited about The Brady Brides. I vaguely remember watching it on TV Land (I think) years ago. tlc38tlc38 03-25-2019, 11:56 AM I wonder if The Brady Brides will get a separate release. stevea 03-25-2019, 01:17 PM I also wish somebody would get the Pop-up Brady episodes that were done many years ago. I'd like to see those again. One other mystery on the DVD sets is the tic-tac-toe grid with the cast, that is missing before the tag scene on the multi-part vacation episodes. Bachu 03-28-2019, 06:07 AM Can anyone find/post any links for this set? All I can find is the tvshowsondvd FB blurb and the Target link. It is a shame that for the 50th that they did not release the show on blu ray. Recently I have been watching season 4 of Rhoda on dvd and the oicture quality looks stunning, like HD but in SD. The Brady Bunch dvds look poor in comparrison. This show really needs the love and attention lavished upon like The Lucy Show got on dvd. Sadly I doubt the 3 part episodes will have their grids intact and I doubt we will get the alternative scenes from the pilot. I doubt we will get remastered picture either. I bet this is another slap the episodes on a disk and add the other shows too. I am sure they will feature the 10 episode version of the Brady Brides which starts with the 2 hour movie split into 4 parts. It would be great to have the TV movie version as well. I wonder if we will get the hour long versions of The Bradys or the 2 hour movie version show in Europe? The movie versions all featured the same opening song but I believe the hour long versions featured 3 different versions. I apologise for being all negative about this release but from the little I know, it sounds like a cheap cash in. Will I be buying it, OF COURSE! I have off air copies of The Brady Brides and The Bradys but it will be great to have at least broadcast copy versions. https://intl.target.com/p/brady-bunch-the-50th-anniversary-tv-movie-collection-dvd/-/A-54480698 https://www.closerweekly.com/posts/the-brady-bunch-spinoffs/ https://www.womansworld.com/posts/the-brady-bunch-spinoffs-153793 It would be great if they could include the Day by Day Brady episode. And the Free Spirit one with Robert and Florence and the Out of this Worl one with Florence. Bachu 03-28-2019, 06:07 AM Can anyone find/post any links for this set? All I can find is the tvshowsondvd FB blurb and the Target link. It is a shame that for the 50th that they did not release the show on blu ray. Recently I have been watching season 4 of Rhoda on dvd and the oicture quality looks stunning, like HD but in SD. The Brady Bunch dvds look poor in comparrison. This show really needs the love and attention lavished upon like The Lucy Show got on dvd. Sadly I doubt the 3 part episodes will have their grids intact and I doubt we will get the alternative scenes from the pilot. I doubt we will get remastered picture either. I bet this is another slap the episodes on a disk and add the other shows too. I am sure they will feature the 10 episode version of the Brady Brides which starts with the 2 hour movie split into 4 parts. It would be great to have the TV movie version as well. I wonder if we will get the hour long versions of The Bradys or the 2 hour movie version show in Europe? The movie versions all featured the same opening song but I believe the hour long versions featured 3 different versions. I apologise for being all negative about this release but from the little I know, it sounds like a cheap cash in. Will I be buying it, OF COURSE! I have off air copies of The Brady Brides and The Bradys but it will be great to have at least broadcast copy versions. https://intl.target.com/p/brady-bunch-the-50th-anniversary-tv-movie-collection-dvd/-/A-54480698 https://www.closerweekly.com/posts/the-brady-bunch-spinoffs/ https://www.womansworld.com/posts/the-brady-bunch-spinoffs-153793 It would be great if they could include the Day by Day Brady episode. And the Free Spirit one with Robert and Florence and the Out of this Worl one with Florence. Bachu 03-29-2019, 04:46 AM This forum has some interesting information. https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/the-brady-bunch-50th-anniversary-might-we-finally-see-a-brady-blu-ray.360889/ Suggestions include, could the original negatives be lost hence the dvds we got were cobbled to together from a variety of sources which is why some scenes had poor picture quality. If they could at least remaster the episodes by going back to the original negatives then even in SD we should get picture quality hopefully as good as the fourth season of Rhoda that I am watching. I do fear this will be a release with no restoration. stevea 03-29-2019, 09:46 AM Post 32 on HTF is the most interesting, although the whole thread is a good read. I agree, we will probably see a recycle of what's already been done. The only thing I can hope for is that they might have found some of the missing elements. Bachu 03-29-2019, 11:55 AM Post 32 on HTF is the most interesting, although the whole thread is a good read. I agree, we will probably see a recycle of what's already been done. The only thing I can hope for is that they might have found some of the missing elements. Considering how popular the show is, how cheap this set is and the cheap option was that they picked when they produced the original dvds, sadly, I doubt it. Even something like the attention lavished on The Lucy Show dvds would have been nice. I would even settle for a bare bones release with episodes struck from the original negatives so they at least looked as good as some other shows where this has been done. I mean, THIS IS THE BRADY BUNCH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE! Has a show ever had so many spin offs??? If they cannot pull the stops out for the 50th anniversary, then I doubt they ever would. stevea 03-29-2019, 01:45 PM I really doubt the original negatives are gone. They may be hard to find, I'll grant. At the least, if the grids from the trip episodes are still missing, with modern technology, they could probably be recreated with footage from other episodes. I've seen what wizards on Youtube do to recreate openings/credits of old cartoons (the originals of which have been altered over the years)--it's amazing. It amazes me, when shows were generally mastered to videotape (in the 90s??), that full, unedited "safety" copies were not made. At that time they probably used 35mm prints as the source, since videotape syndication episodes have better quality than 16mm films that were shipped around to stations years ago. Bachu 03-29-2019, 02:17 PM As I understand it, the bits they wanted were transferred from film to tape to make the editing process quicker and easier. Back then, who knew HD was 20 years in the future. Just shows, you should never cut corners. ;) It is imagine to hard that a show like this had the negatives lost or junked but stranger things have happened. I would be so happy just to have new prints made from the negatives because old shows recorded on 35mm film can look stunning in SD. In the late 80s/early 90s a station in Britain called Sky One screened TBB. Straight after they screened TBBrides and the The Bradys all showed up on the Sky Movie channels. They must have bought a job lot. The Brady Brides was 10 episodes starting with syndicated half hour versions of the TVM. I am sure that is what we will get here. I just hope they do not trim the opening credits at the end like in this clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7uEwvt5rrw The episodes I have, after the fade to black, the theme continues for a few more seconds. Bachu 03-29-2019, 02:19 PM Anyone know when the set is due to be released? stevea 03-29-2019, 03:12 PM Yes, you can tell when they've developed new prints from the original negatives; at least, I think I can. My Three Sons, seasons 1 and 2, look absolutely wonderful, as does Hazel Season 1, and most of Leave It To Beaver. It's probably cheaper to do black and white, because they don't have to do color correction. Bachu 03-30-2019, 08:57 AM Has anyone got all the missing 'grids' from the 3 part episodes? i have 5 that I recorded from Sky almost 20 years ago now. Also, regarding the missing tag from Greg Gets Grounded; did it ever have one. The way the episode plays, nothing feels like it is missing though the episode is about 20-30 seconds shorter than the others. I probably did many years ago but I feel I need to dig out my off air copy. When Sky screened the show, only a small handful of episodes were cut though a lot had the grids cut off though the tags were present. Did the first episode ever have a tag? Can anyone say what the scene was? Same for Greg gets Grounded. Impressions 03-30-2019, 10:56 AM This all feels like a rush job to get it all out on DVD. Hopefully we get extras. stevea 03-30-2019, 03:21 PM Has anyone got all the missing 'grids' from the 3 part episodes? i have 5 that I recorded from Sky almost 20 years ago now. Also, regarding the missing tag from Greg Gets Grounded; did it ever have one. The way the episode plays, nothing feels like it is missing though the episode is about 20-30 seconds shorter than the others. I probably did many years ago but I feel I need to dig out my off air copy. When Sky screened the show, only a small handful of episodes were cut though a lot had the grids cut off though the tags were present. Did the first episode ever have a tag? Can anyone say what the scene was? Same for Greg gets Grounded. No, but if they aired someplace, the grids should have been found for the DVD. It seems nobody goes the extra mile anymore. I don't know why, but those missing grids really bug me. Bachu 03-30-2019, 04:31 PM This all feels like a rush job to get it all out on DVD. Hopefully we get extras. It does to me as well. I think it is released in June. I hope there will be extras but what I have read suggests not so far. It is the 50th. They should pull out all the stops. The only things I do not have official copies off is TBBrides and The Bradys. Everything else on that set is a duplication. Remastered video would make it worthwhile. Bachu 03-30-2019, 04:33 PM I don't know why, but those missing grids really bug me. Me too! The episodes suffer as a result as the natural flow of those parts of the episodes is spoilt as a result, especially for part one of the Hawaii episodes with the 'wipeout'. TeeVeeCloset 04-01-2019, 09:18 AM I am very weary of this set, could be edits somewhere, there is nothing like your own original self recorded master, which is what i did recording the entire one time CBS broadcasts with commericlas of "The Bradys" all those years ago in SP speed and they transferred to DVD beautiful, most likely will stay with those as I just don't trust an official release not to be missing something. Screwy Wabbit 04-01-2019, 11:00 PM I am very weary of this set, could be edits somewhere, there is nothing like your own original self recorded master, which is what i did recording the entire one time CBS broadcasts with commericlas of "The Bradys" all those years ago in SP speed and they transferred to DVD beautiful, most likely will stay with those as I just don't trust an official release not to be missing something. Wish I could see those. While studio-released DVDs have better picture quality, there's something special about seeing old shows with the original commercial breaks intact. Sure, many of the old commercials are on YouTube nowadays, but you just don't know which commercials were broadcast with which episode. It would be great to see an early 1970s vintage BB episode with all the commercials intact. Now if they really wanted to satisfy the completists, they would include some of the original ABC network promos and maybe even The World of Sid and Marty Krofft at the Hollywood Bowl. Bachu 04-04-2019, 05:40 PM 'The Brady-est Collection: THE BRADY BUNCH: 50TH ANNIVERSARY TV & MOVIE COLLECTION Pre-Order thru April 23rd - (Release date June 4th) https://www.target.com/p/brady-bunch-the-50th-…/-/A-54480698 The collection breakdown and special features is as follows: “The Brady Bunch: The Complete Series” Special Features: Commentary by Sherwood Schwartz in “The Honeymoon”; Commentary by Barry Williams, Christopher Knight and Susan Olsen in “A Camping We Will Go” and “The Hero” “The Brady Kids: The Complete Animated Series”: All 22 episodes. Special Features: Episodic Promos "The Brady Brides”: All 10 episodes "A Very Brady Christmas" "The Bradys”: All 6 hours “The Brady Bunch,” “The Brady Kids: The Complete Animated Series,” “The Bradys,” “The Brady Brides” and A Very Brady Christmas are presented in full screen format with English Mono audio (“The Bradys” in English Stereo) and English SDH subtitles (excluding “The Brady Bunch”) ----------------------------------------------- The Brady Bunch Movie A Very Brady Sequel The Brady Bunch in the White House Growing Up Brady The Brady Bunch Movie and A Very Brady Sequel arrive in widescreen format with English 5.1 Dolby Digital, English 2.0 Dolby Digital and French 2.0 Dolby Digital audio with English subtitles. Additional Brady movies, including The Brady Bunch in the White House and Growing Up Brady, are presented in full screen format with Dolby Digital and English Stereo audio.' Looks like a repackage job. No new extras. No deleted scenes for the movies. No missing commentary for season 2 episodes that i read on this board that were recorded. The show and the fans deserve better. MA 04-04-2019, 05:45 PM So it’s all still going to be the same and nothing new? Bachu 04-04-2019, 06:01 PM Looks like it. The Bradys and Brides are new but they could have released them separate which no doubt they will do in about 5 years. 10 episode version of The Brady Brides so not the TVM version. The Bradys says all 6 hours. i wonder if that means all 6 episodes rather than all three 2 hour movie versions? Didn't one of the movie versions get released with the Shag Pile carpet complete series release? MA 04-04-2019, 06:10 PM They should’ve included The Brady Bunch Variety Hour though. Bachu 04-04-2019, 06:19 PM I bet the songs prevented that getting a release. Shame as I would love to have that on dvd. I hope they change the box art to this set as it is awful. I also hope Amazon sell it as I am not sure Target ship to Great Britain. $69.99 isn't a bad price though for what we get though for me I'll be paying $69.99 for just two shows that I do not have. MA 04-04-2019, 06:21 PM I'm sure that you can watch it on YouTube or something. Svenfan1234 04-04-2019, 06:34 PM They should’ve included The Brady Bunch Variety Hour though. CBS/Paramount does not own the rights to The Brady Bunch Variety Hour. Sid & Marty Krofft Productions does, but not CBS/Paramount. That's why they're not releasing it. Screwy Wabbit 04-07-2019, 12:46 PM CBS/Paramount does not own the rights to The Brady Bunch Variety Hour. Sid & Marty Krofft Productions does, but not CBS/Paramount. That's why they're not releasing it. That doesn't really make sense, either. It was a joint production between Paramount and Krofft, since Paramount presumably owns the rights to the characters. Nobody else can make a show with Marcia, Greg, Jan, Peter, etc. without Paramount's permission. Krofft is also very open to releasing their programs on DVDs. I don't know of any Krofft Saturday morning shows that haven't been released, some even a couple of different ways, like in sampler compilations with episodes of other Krofft shows or second editions. Unlike Paramount, they know that just sitting on shows (like Love, American Style after season 1) isn't going to make them one red cent. Svenfan1234 04-07-2019, 01:08 PM That doesn't really make sense, either. It was a joint production between Paramount and Krofft, since Paramount presumably owns the rights to the characters. Nobody else can make a show with Marcia, Greg, Jan, Peter, etc. without Paramount's permission. Krofft is also very open to releasing their programs on DVDs. I don't know of any Krofft Saturday morning shows that haven't been released, some even a couple of different ways, like in sampler compilations with episodes of other Krofft shows or second editions. Unlike Paramount, they know that just sitting on shows (like Love, American Style after season 1) isn't going to make them one red cent. CBS/Paramount owns the rights to The Brady Bunch and the characters, while Sid and Marty Krofft owns the rights to the show itself. That's why it's not included in the DVD package. Bachu 04-07-2019, 03:22 PM Rhino released two random episodes that were uncut as far as I know though, ad bumpers were missing. Rhino strikes me as a small company yet somehow they managed to clear all the songs. Because the show was on tape it is cheaper to clear music though of course there is still an expense. Perhaps The Variety Hour did not sell well which is why they did not release more??? https://www.rhino.com/ Screwy Wabbit 04-07-2019, 09:54 PM CBS/Paramount owns the rights to The Brady Bunch and the characters, while Sid and Marty Krofft owns the rights to the show itself. That's why it's not included in the DVD package. Again, the show was not wholly owned by Krofft. Both IMDb and Wikipedia can tell you it was a joint production. Says so right in the end credits, "Produced in association with Paramount Television." If Paramount could only include stuff they alone produced, then how are they including The Brady Kids, which was another co-production, that time with Filmation? Svenfan1234 04-07-2019, 10:20 PM https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/tv-on-dvd-news-roundup.357672/page-16 Here's some insight into The Brady Bunch Hour and explaining why Sid and Marty Krofft Productions and not CBS/Paramount. Hope this helps. Screwy Wabbit 04-07-2019, 10:42 PM What reason can you think of for the Kroffts to deny Paramount permission to include it in the set since obviously Paramount wouldn't have to pay anybody else for rights to the characters? Don't you think they'd want to make some money off it before the few fans of the show die off? Heck, they even allowed Rhino to release the complete run of Pink Lady and Jeff, arguably an even worse and more obscure show. Bachu 04-08-2019, 02:15 PM It could be that Paramount/CBS have no interest in releasing Variety Hour which is a shame. Someone should cash in on releasing it. They could do worse than release those two episodes from mannix featuring the Brady house. https://www.metv.com/stories/mannix-spent-a-whole-lot-of-time-in-the-brady-bunch-house Screwy Wabbit 04-09-2019, 08:13 PM It could be that Paramount/CBS have no interest in releasing Variety Hour which is a shame. Someone should cash in on releasing it. I agree with you that music issues are likely the stumbling block. Paramount is notoriously cheap in that respect, most notably in the way they butchered the Odd Couple episodes for DVD to avoid paying songwriters' royalties. 1960'sTVfan 04-09-2019, 09:35 PM I'll probably stay with the original DVD season sets from Paramount, no plans at this time to buy this new release. I'm not interested in the movies or follow-up series, just interested in the original series. Too bad the original series has only 117 episodes, that really isn't very many episodes for a five season show. Bachu 04-10-2019, 05:43 PM I bought the dvds when they first came out and they had the lenticular cover. Would would make this set great is if they used the lenticular cover again so you can see all the actors/cartoon characters that portrayed the characters. Bachu 04-10-2019, 05:50 PM 'The Brady-est Collection: THE BRADY BUNCH: 50TH ANNIVERSARY TV & MOVIE COLLECTION Pre-Order thru April 23rd - (Release date June 4th) https://www.target.com/p/brady-bunch-the-50th-…/-/A-54480698 The collection breakdown and special features is as follows: “The Brady Bunch: The Complete Series” Special Features: Commentary by Sherwood Schwartz in “The Honeymoon”; Commentary by Barry Williams, Christopher Knight and Susan Olsen in “A Camping We Will Go” and “The Hero” “The Brady Kids: The Complete Animated Series”: All 22 episodes. Special Features: Episodic Promos "The Brady Brides”: All 10 episodes "A Very Brady Christmas" "The Bradys”: All 6 hours “The Brady Bunch,” “The Brady Kids: The Complete Animated Series,” “The Bradys,” “The Brady Brides” and A Very Brady Christmas are presented in full screen format with English Mono audio (“The Bradys” in English Stereo) and English SDH subtitles (excluding “The Brady Bunch”) ----------------------------------------------- The Brady Bunch Movie A Very Brady Sequel The Brady Bunch in the White House Growing Up Brady The Brady Bunch Movie and A Very Brady Sequel arrive in widescreen format with English 5.1 Dolby Digital, English 2.0 Dolby Digital and French 2.0 Dolby Digital audio with English subtitles. Additional Brady movies, including The Brady Bunch in the White House and Growing Up Brady, are presented in full screen format with Dolby Digital and English Stereo audio.' Looks like a repackage job. No new extras. No deleted scenes for the movies. No missing commentary for season 2 episodes that i read on this board that were recorded. The show and the fans deserve better. This is what the season two review had to say about the missing commentaries. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/thebradybunchseason2dvdreview.html 'According to Barry Williams Official Website, he did episode commentaries with Susan Olsen and Christopher Knight for seasons 1-3. I don't understand why Paramount chose not to include them here. ' stevea 04-10-2019, 06:06 PM What reason can you think of for the Kroffts to deny Paramount permission to include it in the set since obviously Paramount wouldn't have to pay anybody else for rights to the characters? Don't you think they'd want to make some money off it before the few fans of the show die off? Heck, they even allowed Rhino to release the complete run of Pink Lady and Jeff, arguably an even worse and more obscure show. You'd think any business would want to make money, but sometimes there's some stubbornness in people who make the decisions. An off topic example: ABKCO Records sat on the Cameo/Parkway catalog of recordings (Chuuby Checker, Bobby Rydell, the Dovells, the Orlons) in the neighborhood of thirty years, before finally releasing a CD set in 2005. (How much more money could they have made if they had released a CD set in the 90s, when so many more fans of 60s music were still alive?) A TV example where there was money to be made, and release was delayed, probably due to fighting over money: Batman. stevea 04-10-2019, 06:11 PM I bought the dvds when they first came out and they had the lenticular cover. Would would make this set great is if they used the lenticular cover again so you can see all the actors/cartoon characters that portrayed the characters. I dislike DVD sets with the swinging gates inside. Usually, it's very difficult to get the DVDs to release. Bachu 04-11-2019, 01:30 PM Never had a problem myself. The only ones I hate are those where disks over lap. Bachu 04-15-2019, 12:59 PM What would folk like to see on this set that probably won't be on this set? I would like to see the two hour movie version of The Brady Girls Get Married. I would also like to see deleted scenes from the movies; Susan played a post woman and Christopher played a coach and even appeared in one of the trailers I saw. Clips of them on other shows as themeselves promoting the show would be nice. Alternate scenes from the pilot. The Brady episode of Day by Day. And that is just for starters. stevea 04-15-2019, 01:29 PM I don't care much about the subsequent shows, I'd just like to see a good mastering of all five seasons. Evidently that's not happening. Screwy Wabbit 04-23-2019, 08:19 PM If they were going to remaster, they might as well do 4k scans of the films and release Blu-rays, but that's evidently not happening, either. I don't think Paramount likes that format. Have they released any of their classic shows on Blu-ray at all? Wildchats 05-16-2019, 06:41 AM I read that they are putting all 5 seasons of the show, the Brady Kids, The Brady Brides, Very Brady Christmas, and The Bradys all in one DVD collection! Plus the 3 Brady Films The Brady Bunch Movie (Hopefully with deleted scenes restored), A Very Brady Sequel, and Brady Bunch In The White House along with Growing Up Brady. This sort of sucks. Originally, they released the seasons. Then they released all 5 with A Very Brady Christmas and The Bradys. Now they are releasing every TV movie but in that big collection. I already own all of that! They should release The Brady Girls Get Married/The Brady Brides as one collection and The Brady's as one collection after they do this. Bachu 05-17-2019, 05:17 PM There is already a thread for this here. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=380675 Once this set sells they will probably release the others as standalone releases. Companies are there to make money, not please the fans in the fairest way possible. I just hope the episodes are better quality but i doubt it as I think we would have heard about that by now. Bachu 05-18-2019, 05:10 AM Not long to go now until this gets a release. I am looking forward to it to get better copies than the off air ones I have for The Bradys and The Brady Brides. Still seemingly a great shame this is probably for the most part just a repackage with no better transfers of the episodes and as it is the 50th and they have not pulled out all the stops even with all the free promotion the renovation of the house isgiving them it is doubtful they ever will. Bachu 06-01-2019, 03:37 AM Considering this is just a repackage with a couple of extras that I have as off air copies I am rather too excited about this release and cannot wait until it is released next week. Living in Great Britain I do not expect it to arrive until the week after and most of all I look forward to watching (hopefully) much better quality episodes than I have of Brides and Bradys. Unless someone beats me to it I'll also be looking for the missing grids on the three parters. 1960'sTVfan 06-01-2019, 11:56 AM With this new release, I'd be curious to know if "The Honeymoon" episode has it's tag scene restored. The tag is cut/missing from this episode in the original season 1 release. Bachu 06-01-2019, 01:01 PM I think a season 4 episode was also missing a TAG. have to say I have never seen either so I would love to know what happened in them. Did the pilot actually have one? It would also be great to see those alternative scenes from the pilot. TV Guy 06-04-2019, 10:18 PM I’m not convinced the pilot has a tag. It seems complete with the family marching up the stairs at the honeymoon hotel. That said, the “squares” for parts 1 and 2 of both the Hawaii and Grand Canyon trips were intact for the first cycle of syndication back in the 70s. I remember the Grand Canyon episode had a particularly dramatic music cue as the squares filled in when Bobby and Cindy were lost (I believe they re-used that cue when Peter got fired from the bike shop). I don’t know why they’re not on the episodes now. 1960'sTVfan 06-04-2019, 10:47 PM I think a season 4 episode was also missing a TAG. have to say I have never seen either so I would love to know what happened in them. Did the pilot actually have one? I'm not 100 percent sure but I seem to recall that The Honeymoon episode did indeed have a tag scene when it originally aired in 1969. It was 50 years ago so my memory may or may not be correct. The episode runs a little under 25 minutes on the DVD, this is a little short for a season 1 episode which indicates the possibility there originally was a tag scene. stevea 06-04-2019, 11:09 PM I’m not convinced the pilot has a tag. It seems complete with the family marching up the stairs at the honeymoon hotel. That said, the “squares” for parts 1 and 2 of both the Hawaii and Grand Canyon trips were intact for the first cycle of syndication back in the 70s. I remember the Grand Canyon episode had a particularly dramatic music cue as the squares filled in when Bobby and Cindy were lost (I believe they re-used that cue when Peter got fired from the bike shop). I don’t know why they’re not on the episodes now. This is very interesting. If these syndication films existed Paramount should have been able to restore the squares. But this would probably require some legwork. Or they might have actually had to locate the negatives to restore the squares. It's really strange they disappeared on both of the multi-part episodes. These DVD issues are sure far from perfect. There are also problems with the third season of Leave It To Beaver. But no one saves "old" copies of shows--once the DVDs come out, they seem to be the gold standard. stevea 06-09-2019, 07:07 AM In The Bradys 1st episode, Florence sings a familiar song at Bobby's wedding. I don't remember the title but I think it's a Streisand song. I'd be curious to know if CBS cuts the song on the DVDs. Bachu 06-09-2019, 01:13 PM In The Bradys 1st episode, Florence sings a familiar song at Bobby's wedding. I don't remember the title but I think it's a Streisand song. I'd be curious to know if CBS cuts the song on the DVDs. My set is due to arrive next Friday as it working its way from the US of A to Great Britain. If no one else lets you know, I'll try to as I will be watching Brides and the Bradys. If, as I believe, that this set is just a repackage with no new remastering of anything previously released I doubt I will even watch anything else. Well, perhaps the night of the 50th anniversary I might start a rewatch of Bunch with a double bill every week for about 69 weeks. Does anyone have any contact email addresses for CBS who are releasing the show on dvd? i would like to write them and give them a piece of my mind for what a shoddy effort they made with the show for the 50th but until I have the set myself I won't be able to see if the same issues are still present from when it was released first time round. stevea 06-09-2019, 01:19 PM CBS DVD cuts virtually any song. So I'd bet this one is, too. Thanks for checking, when you get it. I'd also like a way to communicate with CBS DVD. Bachu 06-13-2019, 01:21 PM So, my set arrived today. Impressions. Despite the fact that this was being shipped to Great Britain it came in a jiffy bag so the sleeve that covers the plastic casing was a tad dented on the corners and at least one tiny bit of plastic in the set had broken. The sleeve is still too garish IMO. The plastic casing is rubbish. 3 disks stacked on top of each other and those 3 disks are stacked on another 3 disks! I would say that there is no remastering on this set for Bunch. Menus and trailers are the same as the the original release about 10 years ago. Surely MyGyver is no longer NEW to dvd!!! The pilot and Greg Gets Grounded are still missing the tag. The 3 parters are still missing the grid before the tag. Episodes are not subittled. The only improvement these disks have is that the episode titles are written on the disks for Bunch and Kids. All 10 episodes of Brides are on one disk. Episode titles are not written on the disks which is odd as they are brand new to dvd. Episodes 1-4 are present in the TVM format. The song mentioned is cut. Picture quality is poor IMO. It is also poor for the rest of the sitcom episodes. For some reason a modern Paramount logo bookends the start and end of these episodes or at least the couple I looked at. There is one extra in the form of material for a sitcom about the movers. What I quickly looked at suggests most of it came from the actual Brides episode. All episodes of Brides appear to be subtitled. Did the first two episodes of The Bradys air as a feature length one? That is how they are presented here. All episodes appear to be subittled. Ad break bumpers tend to appear at the mid point of the episodes. Picture quality looks a bit like vhs and not much better. Next time trailers are present as are recaps on some episodes. Perhaps they were never there on all of them? All three episodes are split over two disks. Episode titles do not appear on the disks. The laugh track is present on the clips I looked at. The song that Florence sings at the wedding just after the minister arrives is the same as the version I have that I recorded from Sky which was the movie length version so unless that one was cut or there is another song I am guessing a song wasn't cut here but no promises. I think I noticed a variation in the theme music but the vocal one that was only on the feature length versions did not jump out at me so I am guessing it is not present even as an extra. The Brady Bunch Movie - when I popped the disk in, it looked just the same as the original dvd so i would say it is. I have not checked the Kids disks or the rest of the movies but I am guessing they are carbon copies of what came before. If you are a big fan of the show and have never bought it on dvd before this is a bargin for everything that you get. If, like me, you own all the other stuff released all you get here that is new to dvd is Brides and Bradys which will porbably be released in a year of two as separate releases. So, they put the show out for it's 50th with no remastering of the original episodes from the episodes I checked to see if missing stuff was put back. Brides and Bradys appear to have had no remastering either. It really is a shoddy release. Episodes remastered from HD prints can look really quite stunning even when presented on SD disks and watched through a blu ray player but we are not even given that here. If they couldn't pull out all the stops for the 50th set I doubt they ever will. To not even present Brides and Bradys in a remastered format is also really poor. I honestly do not get how a show as popular and as famous as this (I mean, what other show had the house used for establishing shots gutted so the inside matches the outside?) got such poor treatment. stevea 06-13-2019, 01:45 PM The first episode of the Bradys was 2 hours. It ended with Bobby's wedding. The song Florence sang was some (I think) Barbra Streisand song that is quite familiar, but I don't remember the name. The version I have is the one that ran on CBS in 2/1990, commercials and all. It would amaze me if CBS actually licensed this song. Maybe they blew the budget on that and cut corners on the mastering. There is another post about those multi-part episodes and the grids. According to that post the grids were present on 1970s-era syndication films (probably 16mm). If anyone has these on Beta tape/sourced from Beta tape (I say Beta because it sounds like it's pre-VHS era) I'd be open to a Bradys trade! If they were on syndication episodes CBS should have been able to find them for the original release years ago. Bachu 06-13-2019, 01:59 PM The first episode of the Bradys was 2 hours. It ended with Bobby's wedding. The song Florence sang was some (I think) Barbra Streisand song that is quite familiar, but I don't remember the name. The version I have is the one that ran on CBS in 2/1990, commercials and all. It would amaze me if CBS actually licensed this song. Maybe they blew the budget on that and cut corners on the mastering. There is another post about those multi-part episodes and the grids. According to that post the grids were present on 1970s-era syndication films (probably 16mm). If anyone has these on Beta tape/sourced from Beta tape (I say Beta because it sounds like it's pre-VHS era) I'd be open to a Bradys trade! If they were on syndication episodes CBS should have been able to find them for the original release years ago. If you can tell me where the song is on the Bradys I can check for you but as I said, the song on the dvd is the same as the one I recorded off the TV but that could have been cut. I have all but 1 of the missing grids. i will try and put them together and upload to Youtube over the weekend. Bachu 06-13-2019, 04:52 PM https://youtu.be/aihfHUlJAtM 1960'sTVfan 06-13-2019, 05:17 PM Thanks to Bachu for the review of this new DVD set. Really a shame that no effort was made to correct the few issues on the original DVD season sets. Sounds like this new DVD set was put together as a quick cash grab to take advantage of the series 50th anniversary. I'll just pass on this new DVD set and keep the original season sets. Regarding the original five season series, as far as I can tell, this is what's missing on the DVD's: Season 1: The pilot episode "The Honeymoon" is missing the tag scene. Season 3: The three "Grand Canyon" episodes don't have the grids/fill in squares prior to the tag scenes. Season 4: The three "Hawaii" episodes don't have the grids/fill in squares prior to the tag scenes. Also, "Pass The Tabu" has a scene missing, roughly 20-30 seconds is cut from the episode. "Love And The Older Man" doesn't have the grids/fill in squares prior to the tag scene. "Greg Gets Grounded" is missing the tag scene. These are the only edits that I'm aware of. As far as I know, the other episodes are complete. stevea 06-13-2019, 08:16 PM Youtube Wow...I'm sure it would have been near impossible for them to find these... Bachu 06-14-2019, 03:15 PM When Bunch airs in America, are the grids always removed? The ones I posted were from Sky TV showings at the start of the 90s so they exisit here even if the episodes are poor quality prints. Perhaps 16mm rather than 35mm. I forgot about LATOM. My off air copy is missing that one as well though whereas the dvd lets some music play before cutting, my off air mutes the music before cutting so the cut is less obvious. I have all my off air copies but never got round to comparing the missed dialogue scene in Pass The Tabu. stevea 06-14-2019, 03:34 PM In that case maybe the LATOM one is film damage. I didn't look up the epsidoe but my thought is that's the one where Marcia swoons over the dentist. But as for the multi-part episodes, now I'm wondering whether the grids were shown on syndication episodes before the DVD sets. MeTV uses the newer syndication episodes (which I assume were made when the DVDs were mastered), so they're missing on current showings. Right now BB isn't on cable at all, I don't think, so there's no other source to compare to. In any case I'd really like to trade for those. Then I could edit and make complete episodes. I'm gonna put out a few feelers to see if anyone has BB from N@N or TV Land. Bachu 06-14-2019, 03:48 PM In any case I'd really like to trade for those. Then I could edit and make complete episodes. Can you not use the clips I put on youtube? stevea 06-14-2019, 03:50 PM I wouldn't have a clue on how to do that. But I asked a trading parter, to see if she has them from any other source. MA 06-14-2019, 03:55 PM I wonder if there were any changes made to The Brady Bunch when the show aired on N@N or TV Land. stevea 06-14-2019, 04:00 PM Right. Suddenly I want to see those episodes from either Nick or TV Land. I wish BB was still on Hallmark or whatever that other cable channel is that had it for awhile. It just amazes me how so many DVD sets have flaws of one kind or another. And with BB, they recycle them with the same flaws. MA 06-14-2019, 04:04 PM Right. Suddenly I want to see those episodes from either Nick or TV Land. I wish BB was still on Hallmark or whatever that other cable channel is that had it for awhile. It just amazes me how so many DVD sets have flaws of one kind or another. And with BB, they recycle them with the same flaws. I believe that it was Hallmark, yes. Bachu 06-14-2019, 06:41 PM I wouldn't have a clue on how to do that. But I asked a trading parter, to see if she has them from any other source. I use something called clipgrab. https://clipgrab.org/ You paste the web address from the page with the video into the clipgrab space and you can download it. Failing that, send me a PM and I should be able to email you grid sections. I watched The Brady Girls Get Married this evening though on the disk menu it is called The Brady Brides. It is the first time I have seen it in the TVM format. I noticed the following differences between this and my off air copies: When Wally and Marcia are in the canteen and Marcia goes to pay for the meals, there are a couple of extra lines in the sitcom version however, the sitcom version then cuts out about 1-2 minutes of action with Jan and Phillip and starts from Phillip producing a list of songs. After Carol finishes her telephone conversation with Peter about him not being able to make it to the wedding, Alice and Carol have a couple of extra lines in the sitcom version. The sitcom version, like the TVM cuts to the restuarant but the TVM has extra scenes in that it starts with Wally and Marcia lone together before Jan and Phillip join them. On the sitcome version the scene starts from the girls talking over each other. A cut towards the middle of the restuarant scene also occurs in the sitcom version with perhaps 30-60 seconds cut. The TVM has extra lines between Alice and Carol after Carol mentions putting Gilbert and Sullivan back together again. At 1hr 6mins and 40 seconds there is some tape damage visible on screen so these prints came from a video tape and were not remastered. In the TVM Phillip is walked into the house blindfolded. In the sitcom version this scene starts from Philip saying he hates the idea of them all living together. In the TVM Marcia has a scene with the movers, followed by a scene with Jan and the movers. The Jan scene is not on the sitcom version. EDIT - And of course part of Carol singing is cut from the dvd but is in the sitcom version and no doubt is in the TVM version but just not this version because of the rights no doubt. stevea 06-14-2019, 06:58 PM I'm not surprised that a videotape was used. I think many DVD sets involving CBS-owned material are sourced from 80s or 90s videotapes. Bachu 06-14-2019, 07:13 PM I would agree. I think that is probably the easiest way for things to be distributed. Nowadays when a network buys a tv show the seller probably puts all the episode on a usb stick and sends them through the post in a jiffy bag. :D I am sure I read, possibly and most likely on this board when the original dvds came out that the original negatives for Bunch were damaged and that is why they had to track down many scenes in the first season or two from a variety of sources. The impression I have is that complete episodes were hard to find and that only edited versions mainly existed. I know I sound like a broken record but has any other show ever had so many spins off with either the original cast or people spoofing them? Desipte this, it's release on dvd has been very poor. It really does feel like someone reached up to the shelf and used the first copy to hand of all the shows for their releases even if the picture quality wasn't much good. stevea 06-14-2019, 07:25 PM I think I read that too. It might have been a link on this board. I find it hard to believe that all 100+ episodes have damaged negatives. A few, yes. They did manage to track down those BB in color bumpers that preceded the first couple of seasons. A more likely explanation would be, "we can't easily find the negatives". And like I said, this is not unique in the CBS/Sony arena. There are a lot of older sitcoms they own that you can tell were not remastered (picture quality, color quality inconsistencies, garbled audio, etc.). Yet we're paying prices as if they were. 1960'sTVfan 06-14-2019, 08:25 PM Not including the episodes that have the grids/fill in squares missing, only 3 episodes have scenes edited from them. "The Honeymoon" and "Greg Gets Grounded" are missing their tag scenes, and the small edit in "Pass The Tabu". CBS sure gave Lucy the royal treatment on DVD, I don't have I Love Lucy on DVD but I have The Lucy Show, as far as I know only one episode in those sets is edited, "Lucy And Pat Collins" from season 5 is edited but the other shows are complete. The TV series that gets my vote for worst DVD treatment by CBS is Gomer Pyle USMC. Each of the five seasons has several edited episodes, most of the edits are because of music. And to make it worse, CBS couldn't even keep the sets uniform. Seasons 1-4 have the 30 episodes on five DVD's, six episodes each disc. But with season 5, CBS chose to cram the 30 episodes on to four DVD's, two discs with seven episodes each and the other two discs with eight episodes each. :rolleyes: Shoddy DVD treatment all the way around given to this series by CBS. stevea 06-14-2019, 10:04 PM Oh yeah, here are claims that the BB negs. are toast, but from 1951 or so, we have ALL of Lucy beautifully remastered. Gomer was an atrocity (and I'm betting it's another one they didn't remaster), as was Odd Couple (they might have gotten enough complaints to go back and remaster at least S1 of that). My Three Sons S1 and S2 (although remastered) were a mess due to music. They're always too cheap to license music (unless, of course, it's Lucy.) My Three Sons S3, out recently, appears to be mastered from 16mm syndication prints (6 edited), and two songs edited out. Yet it's divided into two sets at ridiculously high prices. Sorry, way off topic! stevea 06-14-2019, 10:11 PM Not including the episodes that have the grids/fill in squares missing, only 3 episodes have scenes edited from them. "The Honeymoon" and "Greg Gets Grounded" are missing their tag scenes, and the small edit in "Pass The Tabu". Has anyone ever seen the tag scene from The Honeymoon, to know it actually was done? 1960'sTVfan 06-14-2019, 11:04 PM I tend to believe "The Honeymoon" episode originally had a tag scene when it first aired. The episode runs a little under 25 minutes on the DVD, whereas the other season 1 episodes run about 25:30, so the shorter run time of "The Honeymoon" likely indicates it's missing the tag scene. Bachu 06-15-2019, 03:38 AM I would agree that the shorter runtime suggests the Honeymoon had a tag but at the same time, it was a pilot and sometimes those are different from regular episodes. 1960'sTVfan 06-15-2019, 11:24 AM Someone over at Home Theater Forum also says that "The Honeymoon" episode has a tag/epilogue scene. It's mentioned in post #3 of the 50th Anniversary thread. Bachu 06-16-2019, 05:21 AM Someone over at Home Theater Forum also says that "The Honeymoon" episode has a tag/epilogue scene. It's mentioned in post #3 of the 50th Anniversary thread. Or it could be the Mandala Effect. 'The Mandela effect is the pseudoscientific belief that some differences between one's memories and the real world are caused by changes to past events in the timeline. Many Mandela effect believers believe it is caused by accidental travel between alternate universes, although some others propose that history has been deliberately altered after the fact by malicious extradimensional beings within the same timeline or by experiments at CERN. It was named after Nelson Mandela, whom some people erroneously believed to have died in prison in the 1980s. (Instead see Steve BikoWikipedia's W.svg, who did die in prison and even had a movieWikipedia's W.svg made about him starring Denzel Washington.) Another common false memory is thinking the title of the children's book series The Berenstain BearsWikipedia's W.svg is spelled as The Berenstein Bears.' :lol: I watched Gorilla of My Dreams last night. Despite some forced comedy it was still funny to me. Sadly, the picture quality was poor. I am watching the SD disk on a blu ray player on a 50inch widescreen tv BUT in its correct 4:3 aspect ratio (I don't get people who watch full screen tv shows stretched to widescreen!???). There is a kind of ghosting effect to the image. In establishing shots and on close ups as well, the mouths and eyes of the cast have a kind of shadow effect. The 'prints' they used for this episode should have been binned and a better one found. This set deserved better! Bachu 06-16-2019, 09:07 AM Couple of other points. The half hour sitcom version of the final half hour of the TVM for Brides features white lettering in the opening credits as well as a credit in the opening credits for Barbara Cason who was the neighbour. The final 6 episodes all featured Alice as a neighbour. I guess when they decided to make a series that Alice being a regular Brady seemed a better fit though Casons character was good. I do find it odd that Carol appeared in all the episodes as a guest star. Perhapps if the series had continued the other Bradys could have dropped in. The TVM has, I'm guessing, what is the original Paramount logo at the end. The sitcom versions for Brides all feature a modern one so the final second or thwo of the closing theme is cut short. Not in a major way that spoils enjoyment but if you are listening with the sound up you will probably notice it. Bachu 06-17-2019, 02:01 PM The Newlywed Game was a very funny episode. Breast and thighs! Thighs and breasts! Picture quality is still poor and fuzzy. In the wide shots when Carol is hosting the game and then when Bob is just looks at their mouths and eyes; a horrible fuzzy mess. EDIT - The very modern paramount logo at the start of the episodes is also suffering from the ghosting effect. I now feel that it is to do with some awful production technique rather than the quality of the episodes though they themselves are not in good nick. Bachu 06-17-2019, 04:01 PM The Mom Who Came To Dinner IS CUT! When Harry cannot sleep, this scene cuts out after Harry tells Wally he will be breathing on his neck if they cannot sing him to sleep. Phillip should then sing Moon River to him. Almost two minutes is missing! It means that Wallys last line of the episode about a Huckleberry friend makes no sense. And the cut scene is seen in a freeze frame during the closing credits. Picture quality is still poor and to my ears there was a slight sound issue noticeable during the opening. The song seemed to dip and rise in sound volume. Bachu 06-19-2019, 04:40 PM Have now finished all Brides episodes. Picture quality never improves. Shame on CBS/Paramount as the show would no doubt look wonderful remastered from the original negatives. stevea 06-19-2019, 04:43 PM Judging by another recent release, I don't think they're remastering anything now. Bachu 06-22-2019, 05:04 PM I made a start on The Bradys this evening. This, I feel, will be the first time I have watched the show in broadcast order and as originally aired. Picture quality is marginally better than Brides but that is because it is 10 years younger than that show IMO. The first episode still sufferes from the ghosting I mentioned before. That aside, I have to say that I enjoyed the first feature length episode very much. Bachu 06-27-2019, 12:42 PM A MOVING EXPERIENCE - A couple of video tape tape drop outs but also about 5 seconds of visual footage is missing after the opening credits. We hear Mike speak but the screen is blank. Missing is some footage of highway construction as well as the on screen credits for at least the guys who play the Brides husbands. An enjoyable episode otherwise though it is a shame they got a chimp to do quality control. Bachu 06-27-2019, 02:36 PM HAT IN THE RING - Original Airdate: February 23, 1990 Get your guitars out cuz the Bradys have a re-jigged theme tune. They also have canned laughter which feels veru out of place. I really liked this episode. Although I have never seen them; shows such as Seventh Heaven, Dr Quinn, Highway to Heaven that all get stripped across tv channels Mon-Fri, I imgaine The Bradys having the same sort of vibe. It isn't an amazing show but it has a nice feel about it. Picture quality is on a par with the other episodes though no black outs and no tape drop outs. Bachu 06-29-2019, 04:35 PM BOTTOM'S UP - Original Airdate: March 2, 1990 Marcia becomes an alcoholic to the accompaniment of a laugh track. Quite a good episode. I love the music used when Marcia is about to start the car with her kids in the back and she is intoxicated. Also, the scene with Marcia breaking down to Carol and Wally is very good. THE PARTY GIRLS - March 9, 1990 Another decent episode. This series deserved a longer run. The fact that only 5 (or 6) episodes were made is odd. Most shows normally complete an order for 13. I mean, if ratings were that bad, how close to the air dates was the show actually in production? Picture quality is as good as other episodes on this set. Not good that is. Well, for the shows 50th I plan to watch the original show at the rate of two episodes back to backas well as watching the Variety Hour episodes that I downloaded from YouTube many moons ago. TV Guy 07-02-2019, 08:58 PM Someone over at Home Theater Forum also says that "The Honeymoon" episode has a tag/epilogue scene. It's mentioned in post #3 of the 50th Anniversary thread. I’ve seen that thread. But they don’t explain why, beyond the reason that “every other episode has a tag” and the shorter running time. But I don’t believe The Honeymoon has a tag scene. And here’s why (caution - this is a long explanation): When The Brady Bunch first ran in syndication in the 1970s, the syndicated version included the “In Color” bumpers at the beginning of the shows. They also included another bumper that played after the squares filled in, before the final commercial break, where one of the kids (or a staff announcer in the first season) said “The Brady Bunch will return in a moment” over a sting of the theme music. The bumpers for seasons 1 and 2 just showed the squares for this message, while seasons 3-5 showed a still photo of the family standing on the staircase or seated on the landing at the bottom of the staircase. For the bumper in the pilot episode, they played the season 1 bumper music (similar to the closing theme), but with no voiceover. This was typical of ABC at the time; if a sitcom had a tag scene, they’d use a “We’ll be back in a moment” bumper. And if there was no tag, the bumper would just have a sting of music without the voiceover. Made sense, because if there was no tag, there was no reason to say “we’ll be back in a moment”. For example: “Too Close for Comfort”, in its ABC run, sometimes had a tag, and the bumper before the final commercial break would have a shot of the house and Ted Knight announcing that the show would be back in a moment. For the non-tag episodes, the bumper would have a sting of music over the shot of the house, with no voiceover. I distinctly remember that Brady Bunch bumper in the pilot, with no voiceover, because it was different than every other episode. Not conclusive evidence, of course, but something to think about. 1960'sTVfan 07-02-2019, 09:10 PM I’ve seen that thread. But they don’t explain why, beyond the reason that “every other episode has a tag” and the shorter running time. But I don’t believe The Honeymoon has a tag scene. And here’s why (caution - this is a long explanation): When The Brady Bunch first ran in syndication in the 1970s, the syndicated version included the “In Color” bumpers at the beginning of the shows. They also included another bumper that played after the squares filled in, before the final commercial break, where one of the kids (or a staff announcer in the first season) said “The Brady Bunch will return in a moment” over a sting of the theme music. The bumpers for seasons 1 and 2 just showed the squares for this message, while seasons 3-5 showed a still photo of the family standing on the staircase or seated on the landing at the bottom of the staircase. For the bumper in the pilot episode, they played the season 1 bumper music (similar to the closing theme), but with no voiceover. This was typical of ABC at the time; if a sitcom had a tag scene, they’d use a “We’ll be back in a moment” bumper. And if there was no tag, the bumper would just have a sting of music without the voiceover. Made sense, because if there was no tag, there was no reason to say “we’ll be back in a moment”. For example: “Too Close for Comfort”, in its ABC run, sometimes had a tag, and the bumper before the final commercial break would have a shot of the house and Ted Knight announcing that the show would be back in a moment. For the non-tag episodes, the bumper would have a sting of music over the shot of the house, with no voiceover. I distinctly remember that Brady Bunch bumper in the pilot, with no voiceover, because it was different than every other episode. Not conclusive evidence, of course, but something to think about. Perhaps you're right. I seem to recall a tag scene in The Honeymoon episode with the Brady family in their hotel room, but it was 50 years ago and my memory could be playing tricks on me. Impressions 07-04-2019, 06:53 PM I got my DVD set last week. Love the set. Don't love how they've layered the discs on top of each other, and there's no episode titles to coincide with them. It's just lazy design. I jumped right into the "rare" episodes that Hulu doesn't have, like "Do Re Mi" as well as the spin-offs. It was a joy to see that episode 'cause I loved the singing episodes. And I bet Hulu couldn't show it for the music licenses. The quality is good, obviously not remastered but they look like home movie quality. Disappointed? Yes. Surprised? No. This is supposed to be a 50th anniversary set. I expected it to look better than good, but I knew this set was a hasty money grab so I settled for it. (Not sure if we're allowed to post screen grabs here...but I'll post some if we're allowed to). I watched an episode of The Brady Kids, that looked good. I had never seen it before, so didn't know what to expect. It was a quirky show. I'll admit, it was a little boring, only 'cause it was not aimed at my age bracket, but kinda cool nevertheless. Then I watched a little bit of The Brady Brides. Looked like an old film, but hey, that's what you get from an almost 40 year old TV show. But I loved seeing it again. Still working through those episodes. Then I watched all episodes of The Bradys, because I had not seen them all before and they sparked my curiosity. These look like they're straight out of the VCR. But hey, it's a rare show, so I'l settle for it. I enjoyed it. The only thing that put me off was, why the heck is there a laugh track the second episode way in, I thought this was supposed to be a dramatic show only? Plus it sounded like a muffled track. Then the other thing is, why the heck did they move the house? Wasn't the whole point of the dad running for office so they wouldn't move? Weird storyline, but I watched it all the way through. Would have been nice to see the real Marsha, cause the fake Marsha's acting ability was pretty poor (especially during the alcoholic episode). Does anyone know the real reason why they couldn't get Maureen? Overall, I'm happy with the buy. Would have like to see remastered episodes obviously for Blu-Ray. They could have easily put the theatrical films on Blu-Ray but chose not to either. Would have been overjoyed if they had the variety show, but that would be too good to be true. Oh well. I'm happy with the set for now. Maybe if we're lucky, we'll get upgraded episodes within the next decade. stevea 07-04-2019, 07:46 PM ...I jumped right into the "rare" episodes that Hulu doesn't have, like "Do Re Mi" as well as the spin-offs. It was a joy to see that episode 'cause I loved the singing episodes. And I bet Hulu couldn't show it for the music licenses... I'm surprised CBS included the music. Normally they don't license it either. Bachu 07-05-2019, 03:13 PM Dough Re Mi had their music though? And no music was cut from the original dvds so I would have been surprised if they had been cut on this release. The only track I can think of that might of caused an issue was the Davy Jones song. The laugh track in The Bradys was silly and seemed very out of place. I thought Leah Ayres as the fake Marcia was good but that is just my opinion. I think Barry wrote in his book that come The Bradys, Maureen decided it was just time to move on. I wonder if there are a bunch of scripts for The Bradys that never got produced. I thought they moved the house because of the freeway. I know Mike then stood but I assumed the freeway would have been in by that time. Something I find odd is that I think fake Marcia, Wally and their kids were the only cast members who filmed at the real house. None of the original Bradys got scenes outside the real house. For the price, the set is mostly good value for money save for the awful looking copies of Brides and Bradys. Considering it is the 50th, they SHOULD have pulled out all the stops. What with the house being built inside, a release has never had so much free publicity. stevea 07-05-2019, 03:47 PM I've only watched the first Bradys so far, the movie-length one. I don't even remember a laugh track, but it could be because I'm so used to them. I'll recheck. The ones I have were original broadcasts, recorded off WCBS in New York. Bachu 07-05-2019, 05:11 PM The laugh track doesn't arrive until HAT IN THE RING - Original Airdate: February 23, 1990. Impressions 07-08-2019, 08:44 PM I watched The Brady Brides Get Married, and I find the whole premise completely ridiculous. And do I have questions. How the hell does Marsha fall in love with a guy in 7 days? Does she just get married to please her sister and her parents, so that the eldest daughter gets married before, and in this circumstance, at the same time? If so, that's stupid! What the hell does Marsha find in Wally? I would have never pictured her falling for him in the original show. She seemed like she liked the athletic type. Why is Jan so straight-laced? I thought Marsha was the perfectionist in the original show. Also, how the hell does nobody get wet after the wedding moves inside? You can tell the rain was added in post-production. It's so fake! Then we get to the 1/2 hour shows. There's an episode about preventing robbers, and a robber just so happens to come across in this episode? Oh, ok, then. What are the chances of that? Then I think there's another episode where Carol stays over and she makes too much noise with the record player while out on the cot, and then the neighbor, police, and even so far as the ambulance come over after too much noise is made at the house! WTF? This show is so over-the-top and forced, no wonder it didn't last! I'm having a hard time getting through these episodes. I've got three more left. Bachu 07-09-2019, 01:36 PM * Bachu 07-11-2019, 12:59 PM I watched The Brady Brides Get Married, and I find the whole premise completely ridiculous. And do I have questions. How the hell does Marsha fall in love with a guy in 7 days? Does she just get married to please her sister and her parents, so that the eldest daughter gets married before, and in this circumstance, at the same time? If so, that's stupid! What the hell does Marsha find in Wally? I would have never pictured her falling for him in the original show. She seemed like she liked the athletic type. Why is Jan so straight-laced? I thought Marsha was the perfectionist in the original show. Also, how the hell does nobody get wet after the wedding moves inside? You can tell the rain was added in post-production. It's so fake! Then we get to the 1/2 hour shows. There's an episode about preventing robbers, and a robber just so happens to come across in this episode? Oh, ok, then. What are the chances of that? Then I think there's another episode where Carol stays over and she makes too much noise with the record player while out on the cot, and then the neighbor, police, and even so far as the ambulance come over after too much noise is made at the house! WTF? This show is so over-the-top and forced, no wonder it didn't last! I'm having a hard time getting through these episodes. I've got three more left. Well, Marcia met Wally and seccumed to his charms and they fell in love. Don't forget Marcia and Harvey Klinger and his bugs. I wonder whether they saw Marcia as the 'sexy' one so made Jan more straight laced. Once the series starts proper though Jan does become a little more relaxed. I agree about the fake rain and no one getting wet. They could have at least shown a few people holding towels. The robber turning up is one of those sitcom tropes as the plot has to have a start, middle and end. I thought Phillip rigged up a button that called ALL the emergency services and Carol pressed it when they were going to play a game hence all the emergency services coming. Of course it is silly that they would all just turn up when they didn't know the nature of the emergency. It is OTT and a lot less naturalistic than Bunch was but I still really enjoy it. The spin off I struggled with the most was Kids. Impressions 07-13-2019, 11:34 AM Maybe Marsha's and Jan's personality had changed after attending college. The fashion world is known to be more "free spirited" than the architectural world, which is driven by "standardization and rules," which could explain how their personality had to change to fit their careers and the narrative flipped to match that. So I can understand that. It would make sense. I watched the remaining three episodes. Some were so unbelievable like "The Siege" episode, with the FBI getting involved with Wally's parking tickets. Completely ridiculous. The writers were already getting into territory of writing material that you would see late in series run, where the writers would up with outrageous plots to keep people interested. "Cool Hand Phil" was not too bad, at least you got to see some dimensional aspects of Phil's character, which was refreshing. "A Pretty Boy is Like A Melody" was probably my favorite episode of the series. It was amusing seeing Phil and Wally dress up as models. Overall, this series was a hit-and-miss. I don't think it was ever meant to be a series, but the networks got greedy, and wanted to turn it into one, and they ended up getting a show that was terrible. I think they could've done way better. It would have been nice to see more than Carol and Alice involved after the movie episodes. It's like the other characters didn't exist. I'm sure Robert Reed saw the episodes and thought some of the plots were bonkers and passed. Bachu 07-14-2019, 05:24 AM In theory the show could have had most of the other Bradys guest star is some capacity. I read somewhere that Sherwood had an idea for a sitcom about two couples sharing a house but no network would but it. With Jan and Marcia he got his wish and a built in audience. I do think it was rushed into production and possibly that is why we got the scripts we did. Bachu 07-24-2019, 01:15 PM The script to The Brady Girls Get Married. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pGIXptikXY31Q-B3_-J1SpmQsPhcKaLZ/view I assume everyone is aware of this fantastic blog? http://verybradyblog.blogspot.com/ MA 07-24-2019, 01:30 PM The script to The Brady Girls Get Married. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pGIXptikXY31Q-B3_-J1SpmQsPhcKaLZ/view I assume everyone is aware of this fantastic blog? http://verybradyblog.blogspot.com/ Yes, I am aware of that blog. Bachu 07-26-2019, 06:52 PM the 1/2 hour shows. There's an episode about preventing robbers, and a robber just so happens to come across in this episode? Oh, ok, then. What are the chances of that? I have been watching season one of I Love Lucy and in the episode called The Fur Coat, Ricky comes up with a plan for neighbour Fred to rob him and Lucy. Guess what, a REAL burgler turns up! :lol: |