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Sal
03-10-2019, 11:14 AM
Those of you who are not happy with MeTV not making many changes to their schedule will be even more displeased with Antenna TV. For the spring of 2019, the only - repeat, the only - programming change they have made is replacing "Small Wonder" with "Gimme A Break" Sundays at 12 and 12:30 pm, which for me is a big downgrade. Otherwise, everything remains the same.

Antenna TV - Spring 2019 (https://antennatv.tv/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Antenna_TV_2ndQ_2019.pdf)

Merry24
03-10-2019, 02:30 PM
I wonder if Antenna TV will Return to its Saturday Summer Marathons like they did a couple Summers back.

I would love to see New 1950’s & 1960’s & 1970’s & 1980’s Shows added.

I would also love to see the Weekday Morning Shows spread through the Schedule instead of just in a block. ( Although I love the Saturday Night-Early Sunday morning block).

Example perhaps they can have

5AM-6AM Mchale’s Navy

9AM-10AM Father Knows Best

10AM-11AM Hazel

12pm-1pm Partridge Family

3pm-4pm I Dream Of Jeannie

6pm-7pm Dennis the Menace

9pm-10pm Bewitched

12AM-1AM Burns And Allen

1AM-2AM Jack Benny

3AM-4AM Joey Bishop

cfr1970
03-11-2019, 07:39 PM
Those of you who are not happy with MeTV not making many changes to their schedule will be even more displeased with Antenna TV. For the spring of 2019, the only - repeat, the only - programming change they have made is replacing "Small Wonder" with "Gimme A Break" Sundays at 12 and 12:30 pm, which for me is a big downgrade. Otherwise, everything remains the same.

Antenna TV - Spring 2019 (https://antennatv.tv/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Antenna_TV_2ndQ_2019.pdf)

Thanks for this. The website is still showing the current schedule and I was wondering what they had in store for spring....and it's apparently nothing! I guess we'll have to wait till July for any changes.

I have to say my Antenna TV viewing has dropped drastically since the 2019 change. They must still have the viewers though since the schedule isn't changing. Oh well. Many people must like it.

Merry24
03-11-2019, 10:56 PM
My Suggestion for the 3rd Quarter Schedule is...

Monday’s-Friday’s
5AM-6AM Mchale’s Navy
6AM Welcome Back Kotter
6:30AM Head Of The Class
7AM-8AM 227
8AM-9AM Family Ties
9AM-10AM Father Knows Best
10AM-11AM Hazel
11AM Benson
11:30AM Gimmie A Break
12pm-1pm The Partridge Family
1pm-2pm Archie Bunkers Place
2pm-3pm Barney Miller
3pm-4pm I Dream Of Jeannie
4pm-5pm Maude
5pm-6pm Growing Pains
6pm-7pm Dennis the Menace
7pm-8pm Alice
8pm-9pm Three’s Company
9pm-10pm Bewitched
10pm-11pm Johnny Carson

11pm-2AM Summer Block Party
Mel’s Monday’s Of ALICE
Tony’s Tuesday’s Of I DREAM OF JEANNIE
BEWITCHED- be Wednesday’s
THREE’S COMPANY Thursday’s
PARTY CRASHER Friday’s

2AM-3AM Burns And Allen
3AM-4AM Joey Bishop
4AM-5AM Johnny Carson

Saturday’s
5AM Hazel
5:30AM Joey Bishop
6AM Jack Benny
6:30AM Burns And Allen
7AM Father Knows Best
7:30AM Dennis the Menace
8AM-9AM Mork & Mindy
9AM-1pm E/I
1pm-2pm Just The 10 Of Us
2pm-3pm Silver Spoons
3pm-4pm The Hogan Family
4pm-5pm My Two Dads
5pm-6pm 227
6pm-7pm Three’s A Crowd
7pm-8pm The Ropers
8pm Welcome Back Kotter
8:30pm Mchale’s Navy
9pm Lotsa Luck
9:30pm Partridge Family
10pm-11:30pm Johnny Carson
11:30pm Joey Bishop
12AM Burns And Allen
12:30AM Jack Benny
1AM Father Knows Best
1:30AM Dennis the Menace
2AM Hazel
2:30AM Paul Lynde Show
3AM Bewitched
3:30AM I Dream Of Jeannie
4AM Mchale’s Navy
4:30 Partridge Family

Sunday’s
5AM Hazel
5:30AM Joey Bishop
6AM Jack Benny
6:30AM Burns And Allen
7AM Father Knows Best
7:30AM Dennis the Menace
8AM-9AM Mork & Mindy
9AM-10AM Sabrina The Teenage Witch
10AM-11AM Gimmie A Break
11AM-12pm Family Ties
12pm-1pm Growing Pains
1pm-2pm Just The 10 Of Us
2pm-3pm Silver Spoons
3pm-4pm Hogan Family
4pm-5pm My Two Dads
5pm-6pm 227
6pm-7pm Maude
7pm-8pm Barney Miller
8pm-9pm Welcome Back Kotter
9pm-10pm Head Of The Class
10pm-11:30pm Johnny Carson
11:30pm Soap
12AM-1AM Benson
1AM-2AM Wings
2AM-3AM Murphy Brown
3AM-4AM Coach
4AM-5AM Becker

Merry24
03-21-2019, 10:31 AM
According to an onair promo Antenna TV will have a Gimmie A Spring Break Marathon Of Gimmie A Break April 14, 2019 Sunday from 5AM-10pm.

icecream
03-21-2019, 01:53 PM
I know Svenfan will be watching every minute of the Gimme a Break! marathon. :lol:

Svenfan1234
03-21-2019, 02:35 PM
I know Svenfan will be watching every minute of the Gimme a Break! marathon. :lol:

Every. Single. Crunched. Minute. ;) :lol: :wave:

tlc38tlc38
03-21-2019, 02:39 PM
I know Svenfan will be watching every minute of the Gimme a Break! marathon. :lol:

I’d watch too if I got the channel. I love Nell!

Svenfan1234
03-21-2019, 02:47 PM
If Antenna TV were to change their schedule without removing anything:
5AM-3:30PM would remain unchanged
3:30PM Head of the Class replacing Soap
4:30PM 2nd episode of Benson replacing 227
5:30PM 2nd episode of 227 replacing Gimme a Break!
12:00AM 2 episodes of Becker replacing Coach and Murphy Brown
1:00AM 2 episodes of Wings replacing Becker
2:00AM 2 episodes of Family Ties replacing Growing Pains at 2AM
3:00AM Coach
3:30AM Gimme a Break!
4:00AM Murphy Brown
4:30AM Dear John

On Sundays, I would replace Coach at 7PM with Wings and at 11:30PM & 12AM with Dear John. etc...

Bonniegirl
03-21-2019, 03:44 PM
I’d watch too if I got the channel. I love Nell!

Nell's funny ! And I LOVE Jonathan!! :eyes:


https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/julies-birthday-episode-25-aired-51185-pictured-jonathan-silverman-as-picture-id138462676

icecream
03-21-2019, 06:00 PM
This is what I would schedule after Memorial Day if they aren't adding new shows for awhile. Small Wonder remains off the lineup as I am guessing its rights expire in April.

Weekdays
5AM McHale's Navy
5:30AM McHale's Navy
6AM Bewitched- Dick Sargent seasons
6:30AM Gimme a Break!
7AM The Hogan Family- Sandy Duncan seasons
7:30AM Dennis the Menace
8AM Father Knows Best
8:30AM Father Knows Best
9AM The Joey Bishop Show
9:30AM The Joey Bishop Show
10AM Burns and Allen
10:30AM Burns and Allen
11AM The Jack Benny Program
11:30AM The Jack Benny Program
12PM Hazel- Don DeFore seasons
12:30PM The Partridge Family
1PM Barney Miller
1:30PM I Dream of Jeannie
2PM Bewitched- Dick York seasons
2:30PM Sabrina, the Teenage Witch- ABC seasons
3PM Welcome Back, Kotter
3:30PM Head of the Class- Howard Hesseman seasons
4PM Benson
4:30PM Benson
5PM 227
5:30PM Silver Spoons
6PM Growing Pains- Growing Pains and Family Ties would make a much better block of shows the whole family can watch early evenings than the Norman Lear shows.
6:30PM Growing Pains
7PM Family Ties
7:30PM Family Ties
8PM Murphy Brown
8:30PM Archie Bunker's Place
9PM Alice
9:30PM Barney Miller
10PM Johnny Carson
11PM Wings
11:30PM Wings
12AM Coach
12:30AM Alice
1AM Three's Company
1:30AM Three's Company
2AM Soap
2:30AM Maude
3AM Dear John
3:30AM Becker
4AM Johnny Carson encore

Saturdays
5AM 227
5:30AM Gimme a Break!
6AM Sabrina, the Teenage Witch- WB seasons
6:30AM Sabrina, the Teenage Witch- WB seasons
7-9AM E/I Shows
9AM Father Knows Best
9:30AM Dennis the Menace
10AM Hazel season 5
10:30AM Head of the Class season 5
11AM Valerie- Valerie Harper seasons
11:30AM Valerie- Valerie Harper seasons
12PM Silver Spoons
12:30PM My Two Dads
1-9PM Saturday Summerthons Return.
9PM Johnny Carson
10:30PM The Jack Benny Program
11PM Lotsa Luck!
11:30PM The Paul Lynde Show
12AM Bewitched
12:30AM I Dream of Jeannie
1AM The Joey Bishop Show
1:30AM Burns and Allen
2AM McHale's Navy
2:30AM Three's Company
3AM Barney Miller
3:30AM Alice
4AM Murphy Brown
4:30AM Wings

Sundays
5AM Growing Pains
5:30AM Growing Pains
6AM Family Ties
6:30AM Family Ties
7-9AM E/I Shows
9AM Becker
9:30AM Becker
10AM Dear John
10:30AM Dear John
11AM 227
11:30AM 227
12PM Gimme a Break!
12:30PM Welcome Back, Kotter
1PM The Partridge Family
1:30PM Sabrina, the Teenage Witch
2PM Bewitched
2:30PM Bewitched
3PM I Dream of Jeannie
3:30PM I Dream of Jeannie
4PM My Two Dads
4:30PM My Two Dads
5PM Coach
5:30PM Coach
6PM Wings
6:30PM Wings
7PM Murphy Brown
7:30PM Murphy Brown
8PM Barney Miller
8:30PM Barney Miller
9PM Alice
9:30PM Alice
10PM Benson
10:30PM Benson
11PM Johnny Carson
12:30AM Three's Company
1AM The Ropers
1:30AM Three's a Crowd
2AM Soap
2:30AM Soap
3AM Archie Bunker's Place
3:30AM Archie Bunker's Place
4AM Maude
4:30AM Maude

Svenfan1234
03-21-2019, 06:03 PM
I don't think Murphy Brown is returning to a decent timeslot anytime soon because of 1.) the revival (crapvival.) 2.) It was before Johnny Carson until recently so it must've bombed and made Johnny go with it. That's my theory on why Johnny Carson's earlier and Murphy later. Remember that Antenna literally spent millions of dollars on the Johnny Carson deal so they're not going to take kindly to any show that's not performing well before/after Johnny Carson.

icecream
03-21-2019, 06:09 PM
I agree the Murphy Brown revival was crap but those episodes are not part of Antenna's package. Fortunately they just have the original run from the 80s and 90s. Also, I did not have it lead directly into Johnny Carson like before. Barney Miller remains its lead-in on weeknights, and Sundays there are three hours separating Murphy and Johnny.

Svenfan1234
03-21-2019, 06:11 PM
I agree the Murphy Brown revival was crap but those episodes are not part of Antenna's package. Fortunately they just have the original run from the 80s and 90s. Also, I did not have it lead directly into Johnny Carson like before. Barney Miller remains its lead-in on weeknights, and Sundays there are three hours separating Murphy and Johnny.

True, you don't have it before Johnny, but having it anywhere before say 12AM is not where they're going to put it now. They don't want it anymore, they're just going to let it die at this point until its rights expire. I don't think it has anything to do with the revival, I think it has everything to do with Johnny though. They have even gone as far as to remove Murphy Brown from promos and they have removed the Candice Bergen episode of Johnny Carson from rotation permanently. I don't see it on their episode guide anymore.

icecream
03-21-2019, 06:17 PM
Are they getting new episodes of Johnny Carson by any chance and removing some of the episodes they have already played a lot? His ratings have probably dropped from when they were new episodes every day in 2016, and now the 90 minute episodes no longer encore.

Svenfan1234
03-21-2019, 06:19 PM
Are they getting new episodes of Johnny Carson by any chance and removing some of the episodes they have already played a lot? His ratings have probably dropped from when they were new episodes every day in 2016, and now the 90 minute episodes no longer encore.

Not 100% sure, but if you look at their episode guide on their website, the Candice Bergen episode is not listed which aired back in 2017 but never again. It's probably due to the fact that the ratings for Murphy Brown were probably unbelievably low. I think they're adding in new episodes here and there but I think they're picking the ones that they think the viewers will most likely tune in to see.

VisualSensation
03-21-2019, 11:36 PM
Are they getting new episodes of Johnny Carson by any chance and removing some of the episodes they have already played a lot? His ratings have probably dropped from when they were new episodes every day in 2016, and now the 90 minute episodes no longer encore.

I still have a season pass for Johnny Carson on my Tivo. The most recent recording is from September. Nothing is scheduled to record through the end of the month.

TVQuack
03-30-2019, 09:47 PM
Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a good antenna to purchase to watch this channel? Unfortunately my cable provider doesn't carry it :(

icecream
04-02-2019, 10:52 PM
Some funny quips by Johnny Carson tonight considering recent events: If all of you (the studio audience) give me a dollar, I can buy 20th Century Fox. He also mentioned Wells Fargo bank having financial problems (I don't remember the exact comment).

Merry24
04-21-2019, 07:23 PM
According to Antenna TV Facebook on May 12, 2019 Sunday Antenna TV will air a Hazel Marathon. It’s called Maid for the day Mother’s Day Marathon 5AM-10pm.

Svenfan1234
04-21-2019, 07:24 PM
According to Antenna TV Facebook on May 12, 2019 Sunday Antenna TV will air a Hazel Marathon. It’s called Maid for the day on Mother’s Day. Starting at 5AM-10pm.

I'd rather watch that marathon than the stupid Gimme a Spring Break Marathon anyday.

cfr1970
04-21-2019, 08:43 PM
I'd rather watch that marathon than the stupid Gimme a Spring Break Marathon anyday.

Well I for one enjoyed the Gimme a Break marathon last week. :p

Hazel is good, but only up until the Baxters left and before those 2 impostors and their little girl came along. It was just too weird that the parents would just up and abandon their kid like that and it ruins the show.

They should've just had them killed off instead.

Svenfan1234
04-21-2019, 09:00 PM
Well I for one enjoyed the Gimme a Break marathon last week. :p

Hazel is good, but only up until the Baxters left and before those 2 impostors and their little girl came along. It was just too weird that the parents would just up and abandon their kid like that and it ruins the show.

They should've just had them killed off instead.

Good for you :p

I probably won't watch much of the Hazel marathon because it is Mother's Day.

1960'sTVfan
05-14-2019, 03:04 PM
I now have recorded and saved on my DVR the 19 Paul Lynde Show episodes that Antenna TV has been running. Would be great if they could acquire the 7 episodes still missing and run those as well, but as of right now chances of that happening seem fairly slim. Who else besides me has been recording these?

Merry24
05-15-2019, 12:45 AM
According to Antenna TV Facebook May 19, Sunday Tim Conway Tribute with Mchale’s Navy Marathon from 9AM-10pm. Than Tim Conway will guess on Johnny Carson at 10pm-11:30pm. Than at 11:30pm-12:30AM 2 Coach episodes with Tim Conway.

Svenfan1234
05-15-2019, 09:43 AM
Does anybody have any idea if Antenna TV is changing their schedule for the summer like Me-TV is?

1960'sTVfan
05-15-2019, 10:43 AM
Sad to learn about Tim Conway passing away, although I'm not fond of his type of comedy and I don't think he's funny. Having said that, I'd be curious to see episodes of his short lived 1960's sitcom Rango.

mandyrenee
05-15-2019, 03:37 PM
Does anybody have any idea if Antenna TV is changing their schedule for the summer like Me-TV is?

Good question. Last year they changed it around July.

They really need to shake their schedule up IMO.

Svenfan1234
05-15-2019, 03:50 PM
Good question. Last year they changed it around July.

They really need to shake their schedule up IMO.

It's been the same schedule since January. And they haven't added any new shows since last July(!) which would be What's Happening Now, The Paul Lynde Show, Lotsa Luck, and Archie Bunker's Place.

mandyrenee
05-15-2019, 04:03 PM
It's been the same schedule since January. And they haven't added any new shows since last July(!) which would be What's Happening Now, The Paul Lynde Show, Lotsa Luck, and Archie Bunker's Place.

Yeah, their schedule is starting to get kind of stale. They used to add tons of new programs around January.

They do need put some of their stuff they've been showing for a while on hiatus and add some other new stuff. I have a feeling they have long term contracts on several of their shows like Barney Miller for example. I think they've had Barney Miller on their schedule for several years now.

icecream
05-15-2019, 06:14 PM
Some shows that haven't aired anywhere (diginet or cable) for a long time include Who's the Boss, Perfect Strangers, The Courtship of Eddie's Father, December Bride, and C.P.O. Sharkey. If Antenna TV could get the rights to those 5 shows they could have a schedule like this that featured new additions from several decades.

Weekdays
5AM Father Knows Best
5:30AM Father Knows Best
6AM Dennis the Menace
6:30AM The Hogan Family
7AM The Joey Bishop Show
7:30AM The Joey Bishop Show
8AM Burns and Allen
8:30AM Burns and Allen
9AM McHale's Navy
9:30AM Hazel
10AM Coach
10:30AM Wings
11AM Silver Spoons
11:30AM Sabrina, the Teenage Witch
12PM Bewitched
12:30PM Bewitched
1PM I Dream of Jeannie
1:30PM I Dream of Jeannie
2PM December Bride
2:30PM December Bride
3PM The Courtship of Eddie's Father- I thought about a full hour of this but not enough for weekdays with 73 episodes.
3:30PM The Jack Benny Program- give this show a decent slot for a change.
4PM Benson
4:30PM 227
5PM Three's Company
5:30PM Alice
6PM Welcome Back, Kotter
6:30PM Head of the Class
7PM Perfect Strangers
7:30PM Perfect Strangers
8PM Family Ties
8:30PM Growing Pains
9PM Who's the Boss?
9:30PM Who's the Boss?
10PM Johnny Carson
11PM Barney Miller
11:30PM Wings
12AM Coach
12:30AM Murphy Brown
1AM Alice
1:30AM Archie Bunker's Place
2AM Maude
2:30AM Gimme a Break!
3AM Three's Company
3:30AM Barney Miller
4AM Johnny Carson

Saturdays
5AM Dear John
5:30AM Dear John
6AM Becker
6:30AM Becker
7-9AM E/I Shows
9AM Who's the Boss?
9:30AM Perfect Strangers
10AM 227
10:30AM 227
11AM Benson
11:30AM Benson
12PM Growing Pains
12:30PM Growing Pains
1PM Mork and Mindy
1:30PM Mork and Mindy
2PM Father Knows Best
2:30PM Dennis the Menace
3PM McHale's Navy
3:30PM McHale's Navy
4PM Hazel
4:30PM Hazel
5PM The Partridge Family
5:30PM The Partridge Family
6PM I Dream of Jeannie
6:30PM Bewitched
7PM The Paul Lynde Show
7:30PM Lotsa Luck!
8PM December Bride
8:30PM The Courtship of Eddie's Father
9PM C.P.O. Sharkey
9:30PM C.P.O. Sharkey
10PM Johnny Carson
11:30PM The Joey Bishop Show
12AM Burns and Allen
12:30AM The Jack Benny Program
1AM Soap
1:30AM Soap
2AM Archie Bunker's Place
2:30AM Three's Company
3AM The Ropers
3:30AM Three's a Crowd
4AM Barney Miller
4:30AM Barney Miller

Sundays
5AM I Dream of Jeannie
5:30AM December Bride
6AM Bewitched
6:30AM The Paul Lynde Show
7-9AM E/I Shows
9AM Alice
9:30AM Alice
10AM The Ropers
10:30AM Three's a Crowd
11AM Three's Company
11:30AM Barney Miller
12PM The Partridge Family
12:30PM The Partridge Family
1PM Mork and Mindy
1:30PM Mork and Mindy
2PM Family Ties
2:30PM Family Ties
3PM Coach
3:30PM Coach
4PM Wings
4:30PM Wings
5PM The Hogan Family
5:30PM Silver Spoons
6PM Welcome Back, Kotter
6:30PM Head of the Class
7PM Perfect Strangers
7:30PM Perfect Strangers
8PM My Two Dads
8:30PM My Two Dads
9PM Who's the Boss?
9:30PM Who's the Boss?
10PM Johnny Carson
11:30PM Barney Miller
12AM Murphy Brown
12:30AM Murphy Brown
1AM Soap
1:30AM Soap
2AM Gimme a Break!
2:30AM Lotsa Luck!
3AM Becker
3:30AM Becker
4AM Dear John
4:30AM Dear John

Svenfan1234
05-15-2019, 06:21 PM
This is what I would schedule:
I would add Chico and the Man, It's a Living, & Perfect Strangers to the lineup.

Shows that would leave would be Dear John, Coach, Soap, & The Joey Bishop Show

Weekdays
5am The Jack Benny Program 2x
6am McHale's Navy 2x
7am Hazel 2x
8am Father Knows Best 2x
9am Dennis the Menace 2x
10am Burns and Allen 2x
11am The Partridge Family 2x
12pm I Dream of Jeannie 2x
1pm Bewitched 2x
2pm Sabrina, the Teenage Witch 2x
3pm The Hogan Family 2x
4pm Benson 2x
5pm Three's Company 2x
6pm Chico and the Man 2x
7pm It's a Living 2x
8pm Alice 2x
9pm Perfect Strangers 2x
10pm Johnny Carson
11pm Barney Miller 2x
12am Wings 2x
1am Becker 2x
2am Gimme a Break!
2:30am Maude
3am Archie Bunker's Place
3:30am 227
4am Johnny Carson

Saturdays
5am The Paul Lynde Show
5:30am Bewitched 2x
6:30am I Dream of Jeannie 2x
7:30am E/I programming
11:30am Three's Company
12:00pm Family Ties 2x
1:00pm Silver Spoons 2x
2:00pm Head of the Class 2x
3:00pm The Hogan Family 2x
4:00pm Perfect Strangers 2x
5:00pm Chico and the Man 2x
6:00pm It's a Living 2x
7:00pm Alice 2x
8:00pm Three's Company 2x
9:00pm Barney Miller 2x
10:00pm Johnny Carson
11:30pm Three's Company
12:00am Maude 2x
1:00am Mork & Mindy 2x
2:00am Welcome Back, Kotter 2x
3:00am Barney Miller
3:30am Johnny Carson

Sundays
5am Lotsa Luck!
5:30am Archie Bunker's Place
6am Maude
6:30am Mork & Mindy
7am The Ropers
7:30am Three's a Crowd
8am Three's Company 2x
9am Barney Miller 2x
10am Mork & Mindy 2x
11:00am Three's Company 2x
12:00pm Family Ties 2x
1:00pm Silver Spoons 2x
2:00pm Head of the Class 2x
3:00pm The Hogan Family 2x
4:00pm Perfect Strangers 2x
5:00pm Chico and the Man 2x
6:00pm It's a Living 2x
7:00pm Alice 2x
8:00pm My Two Dads 2x
9:00pm Growing Pains 2x
10:00pm Johnny Carson
11:30pm Three's Company
12:00am Maude 2x
1:00am Mork & Mindy 2x
2:00am Welcome Back, Kotter 2x
3:00am Barney Miller
3:30am Johnny Carson

mandyrenee
05-15-2019, 06:52 PM
Cozi TV has the rights to "My Favorite Martian". They just recently added it back to their schedule.

You're right about all of the other shows you mentioned. It would be great to see them in Antenna TV's lineup.

icecream
05-15-2019, 07:14 PM
Cozi TV has the rights to "My Favorite Martian". They just recently added it back to their schedule.

You're right about all of the other shows you mentioned. It would be great to see them in Antenna TV's lineup.In that case I will replace My Favorite Martian with December Bride. Harry Morgan was great in M*A*S*H and Dragnet, but December Bride has not been played like them.

mandyrenee
05-15-2019, 07:22 PM
In that case I will replace My Favorite Martian with December Bride. Harry Morgan was great in M*A*S*H and Dragnet, but December Bride has not been played like them.

I had never heard of that show so I looked it up. It sounds very interesting. Plus Antenna TV needs to add some more of those older shows IMO.