View Full Version : Eighties supermodel Nastasia Urbano is dealing with homelessness.


Steve M.
03-01-2019, 09:20 PM
Spain's Nastasia Urbano, one of the top models of the 1980s and a muse of Yves Saint Laurent, has been homeless and lving in the streets of Barcelona.

Read her story here . . .


https://elpais.com/elpais/2019/02/07/inenglish/1549531740_861020.html

. . . and read about her ongoing comeback here!

https://elpais.com/elpais/2019/02/22/inenglish/1550833013_334939.html

Steve M.
03-01-2019, 09:21 PM
You can help Nastasia Urbano. Go to her GoFundMe page here!

https://www.gofundme.com/ayuda-a-nastasia-urbano-help-nastasia-urbano?fbclid=IwAR1Wjo03LY2u21GzkKosHtGySTchWo38P5K4_xB74bmHDWhevyVqu0rm6iU

MA
03-01-2019, 09:23 PM
I hope she can find a home soon!

Steve M.
03-01-2019, 09:55 PM
I hope she can find a home soon!

She's currently staying with a friend, but she needs €6,000 (US$6,840) to get her own place and continue her modeling comeback. She just needs a little more money.

Steve M.
03-31-2019, 12:13 PM
WE DID IT!

The GoFundMe campaign for Nastasia Urbano met its €6,000 goal on March 30, 2019, after 54 days of fundraising. Thanks to everyone here who donated. :)

Babalu
03-31-2019, 05:18 PM
I'd be amazed if she isn't homeless again soon. It's rarely a money problem. It's a lifestyle problem.

Steve M.
03-31-2019, 05:43 PM
I'd be amazed if she isn't homeless again soon. It's rarely a money problem. It's a lifestyle problem.

She doesn't have a bad lifestyle, she just had a rotten husband who swindled her.

Lee
04-01-2019, 01:04 AM
I'd be amazed if she isn't homeless again soon. It's rarely a money problem. It's a lifestyle problem.

Has anyone told you you can be very judgemental at times? Maybe you're a little too
conservative for your own good. Maybe you should try to be more compassionate like
me.

Lee
04-01-2019, 01:06 AM
She doesn't have a bad lifestyle, she just had a rotten husband who swindled her.

Maybe Babalu should look more into her backstory before he criticizes her situation

Steve M.
04-01-2019, 09:28 AM
Has anyone told you you can be very judgemental at times? Maybe you're a little too conservative for your own good. Maybe you should try to be more compassionate like me.

Thank you, Lee. :)

Babalu
04-01-2019, 09:57 AM
Has anyone told you you can be very judgemental at times? Maybe you're a little too conservative for your own good. Maybe you should try to be more compassionate like me.

My point is that most homeless people that live on the streets are mentally ill, not poor. No matter how much money you give them, they will wind up on the streets again. What they need is to be kept in a facility where they can be taken care of and made sure to take their medication. There are exceptions, of course. But the failure of the medical system in the USA is directly related to liberal civil rights groups and politicians suing to set mentally ill people "free" from mental institutions in the 1970's and 1980's to roam the streets and do harm to themselves and others. This is a documented fact.

There was a celebrated case in NYC where a teenager was threatening to jump off a bridge. He was talked off the bridge by a policeman who talked him off the bridge by actually promising to adopt him. The kid was in bad circumstances and this heroic cop really did legally adopt him, took him home, and took care of him. A few years later the kid was back on the bridge again. Call it judgmental if you want. That's fine with me. I'm a realist. I choose not to live in a feel good fantasy world of things that aren't possible.

Steve M.
04-01-2019, 10:35 AM
Nastasia Urbano is not mentally ill. She's working as a model again.

Steve M.
04-01-2019, 11:19 AM
If you actually read that first story, it's obvious that there were significant depression issues there.

She has been dealing with depression, but it's hardly the whole story. She also had a complicated domestic life and a husband that took advantage of her. She's been handling her medical issues very well, considering her bad luck.

Babalu
04-01-2019, 12:13 PM
If you actually read that first story, it's obvious that there were significant depression issues there.



This is the main case Babalu is referring to:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Connor_v._Donaldson

If you were around then (mid- to late-70s), the effect was striking. Within a couple of years, crazy people just filled the streets of major cities. They passed word very quickly that if someone picked them up all they had to do was say that they weren't thinking of harming anyone, and they were released to go back to their grates and boxes to live. In recent years, a lot of our nuttier binge killers have been questioned and released in the same way.


Actually I was referring to New York but the principle is the same. Here's an article from the liberal New York Times criticizing the equally liberal Mario Cuomo on NYS's homeless crisis in a 1990 article:

https://www.nytimes.com/1990/04/17/opinion/lost-lesson-of-mental-health.html

''Deinstitutionalization'' - removing mental patients from big state hospitals for more humane treatment in communities - has become a textbook example of failed social policy. Yet Gov. Mario Cuomo of New York and the State Legislature now behave as if it never happened. If allowed to prevail, their denial of a disastrous history will inflict new suffering on thousands of mental patients and the communities they inhabit.

Back in the 1960's, state mental hospitals held more than 80,000 patients; overcrowding and other abuses led reformers to call for their release to community programs. During the 1970's, hospital populations fell below 20,000.

But if the state succeeded in pushing patients out, it failed miserably at providing community care. Upstate towns dependent on hospitals, and unions of hospital workers, pressured lawmakers to keep the hospitals open and heavily staffed. That limited money for communities.

Many discharged patients, and thousands of new ones whom hospitals refused to take in, migrated to New York City and its suburbs. For a time they found shelter in cheap hotels. When the 1980's real estate markets eliminated many of them, the patients wound up on the street. As the mentally ill homeless have become more visible, state officials have finally begun to respond with more support for community programs, residences and caseworkers. But that effort is in trouble. To save $43 million, Albany would resume deinstitutionalization in a big way.

Another perfect example of liberals confusing fantasy and reality.

Steve M.
03-04-2022, 10:53 AM
I'm happy to report that not only is Nastasia Urbano no longer dealing with homelessness, she's doing very well with love and support from her family. Here she is in September 2021, celebrating her sixtieth birthday. :heart: :heart: :heart:

GentlemanJim
03-04-2022, 12:25 PM
Glad she is out of harm's way. But there are a lot of different pieces on the game board here.

It's not uncommon for people who make their living off of the fortune of good looks, to fall on hard times once the blossom is off the bud.

I've been watching the expose on the A&E channel, describing what a hideous Rasputin Hugh Hefner was. And can't help but to notice how all the people griping all have characteristics in common.

They all worked for an organization who's stock in trade was the promotion of female beauty, they were all blessed to be born with good looks, which would have faded regardless of whatever career they chose.

While their spotlights were burning brightly, they lived lives of luxury that most mere mortals can only fantasize about. And now with Hefner gone and their prospects bleak, they have a convenient whipping boy.


It's true, there were a few tragedies. Just as I am sure there are at JP Morgan Chase bank, or General Motors. But this "Empire of Evil" that these women are trying to establish, is likewise a fantasy world

I grew up with several friends who got by on their good looks for most of their lives who are dealing with these very same stark realities later in life. Glad I was born ugly and smart. .

GentlemanJim
03-04-2022, 12:30 PM
Could very well be an aspect of vanity at work here, as well? People born beautiful seldom learn humility until given no other choice? When all you have to do is walk into a room, and people are falling at your feet....what kind of valuable life skill does that teach you?

MA
03-04-2022, 03:48 PM
Good to know that Natasha is doing better!

Steve M.
03-04-2022, 09:49 PM
Good to know that Natasha is doing better!

:heart: :heart: :heart:

Theda Bara
03-05-2022, 12:10 AM
I am so glad to hear that Nastasia is doing a lot better, and has resolved her homelessness. I wish her nothing but the very best :)

Steve M.
03-12-2022, 11:28 PM
I am so glad to hear that Nastasia is doing a lot better, and has resolved her homelessness. I wish her nothing but the very best :)

That is very nice of you! :) :heart: