Did I hear another Thompson? Wally ‘s trying to find another guy to go to Bellport and mentions some guy but he carries a briefcase.

I'll check. I need to re-watch the 2 episodes from today anyway. They edited a lot out of Nobody Loves Me.

Right you are. Arthur Thompson.

Wonder why Wally and his friends didn't think of inviting one or two of the girls they knew.

Whenever Beaver says, "Gus and the net," I hear "Gus and Annette."

“Gus and Annette.” LOL

Right you are. Arthur Thompson.

Wonder why Wally and his friends didn't think of inviting one or two of the girls they knew.

Arthur sounds like Dudley McMillan. They both carry briefcaases.

Was Beaver's Fear Burt Mustin's final appearance?

Was Beaver's Fear Burt Mustin's final appearance?

Yes, it was.

Beaver by then was more or less done hanging around the firehouse.

In Beaver's next-to-last visit to the firehouse, in "Nobody Loves Me," Gus tells Beaver about the two younger kids that come by to hang out there.

“Gus and Annette.” LOL

When he was mumbling on the way into the amusement park, it did sound like Gus 'n' Annette.

I was on a roller coaster (or as Beaver called it, rolly coaster) once, very little, at an amusement park--Willow Grove, near Philadelphia. I don't remember much about it--I can't imagine my dad going on it, as he didn't like high places, either.

Thanks for substantiating another Thompson. Have to add him to the list. I guess Gus went on to Andy Griffith and later All in the Family. I loved Gus. I never went on a roller coaster my stomach wasn’t up to it. Once I went on a ride when I was 10 and a guy said you kids don’t know what you’re getting into. It was horrid!!

Thanks for substantiating another Thompson. Have to add him to the list. I guess Gus went on to Andy Griffith and later All in the Family. I loved Gus.

Gus added a lot to the show. He was on 15 times, and probably should have been used more.

Mustin played a lot of character roles. In this case, he played a recurring character and did a darn good job.

Gus added a lot to the show. He was on 15 times, and probably should have been used more.

Gus was only on 15 episodes?! It seemed like a lot than that, but it always does with characters like that on sitcoms like Hymie and Siegfried on Get Smart.

Mustin was in:

1-1 Beaver Gets 'Spelled
1-3 Black Eye
1-6 Brotherly Love
1-20 Lonesome Beaver
1-28 Next Door Indians
1-36 Beaver and Henry
2-27 A Horse Named Nick
2-30 Beaver's Newspaper
4-6 Beaver's Big Contest
4-9 Beaver's I.Q.
4-20 Beaver's Tonsils
4-34 Junior Fire Chief
5-20 Nobody Loves Me
5-21 Beaver's Fear

Another character actor of the era, Will Wright, appears in one episode (1-18 Child Care) as Pete the Fireman.

Another character actor of the era, Will Wright, appears in one episode (1-18 Child Care) as Pete the Fireman.

And, in another episode, "The Clubhouse," Beaver went to see a third fireman, Charlie, played by yet another actor.

Don't know why, in those two episodes, we see Pete and Charlie instead of Gus; maybe those actors just happened to be available.

I think it's interesting that Gus was not on during season 3.

I thought that was interesting, too. And only 2 appearances in season 2.

The most appearances were in season 1, followed by season 4.

I think the only time we ever saw Gus out of the firehouse was in the horse episode...didn't he come over to see the horse when he wouldn't get up? (A little trivia about that episode: it's the only episode written by Hugh Beaumont, and according to Mathers they had all kinds of trouble filming the horse scenes, because of the horse. I'll bet Hugh took some ribbing for that!)

Gus helped Beaver in so many episodes whether it was fixing something, offering advice or saving his neck like the baby rabbits. I think I read the horse would lie down when he was supposed to be up and had gas.

Yep, I liked when he used his oil concoction that would fix anything, and of course it got the typewriter working again.

Gus could talk to Beaver on his level whereas Ward would talk down to him. He told Beaver that education was very important and he should not sit back and just think he will be successful. He told him the bad news about garnets and let’s not forget how he let Wally and Beaver take his boat out fishing since they were a man and a half. Gus was Beaver’s best friend.

I think telling Beaver how to educate people about fire safety and not writing citations was one of Gus’s best moments.

In one episode Ward said the parent talks as an adult and the son listens as a child. One thing Ward could have tried to do was soft-peddle the big words. Then Beaver wouldn't have had to say (so many times), Wally, what did dad mean?, after Ward left.

I agree about the the Junior Fire Chief episode. Gus's talk changed Beaver's whole attitude for the better. After Miss Landers heard his explanation for no citations, all she could do was gently correct Beaver's usage of learned/taught.

Mustin was in:

1-1 Beaver Gets 'Spelled
1-3 Black Eye
1-6 Brotherly Love
1-20 Lonesome Beaver
1-28 Next Door Indians
1-36 Beaver and Henry
2-27 A Horse Named Nick
2-30 Beaver's Newspaper
4-6 Beaver's Big Contest
4-9 Beaver's I.Q.
4-20 Beaver's Tonsils
4-34 Junior Fire Chief
5-20 Nobody Loves Me
5-21 Beaver's Fear

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Burt was a regular on Johnny Carson
IIRC during a visit he spoke about being on the set in silent movies ...
He was very youthful for his age !

I remember him from Adam 12, Bonanza, All in the Family, & Andy Griffith ....


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also this episode Beavers Fear seems like Beavers acting is pretty bad +-
as with the older he got the worse it got (?)

I actually thought the bad acting came from the bad writing, like making Beaver too dumb for his age. I'm trying to remember another show like that. It's driving me crazy!

I remember now: it was Full House from season 6 onward and all of Fuller House that I thought the acting is bad only because the writing is bad.

Jerry Mathers shot up, and the writing didn't catch up quickly enough.

They did have seasoned, well-known writers. Connelly and Mosher didn't keep a good enough eye on continuity, or hire someone who would. There were some lines that definitely should have been re-written but weren't.

Also, some thought should have been given to the kind of stuff we point out, like wouldn't a wedding be planned far in advance (Gilbert's father in Night in the Woods)?

The one thing some of us have pointed out is that Jerry seemed to be a better actor when he was younger. I do think that's true.

Does anybody know where the roller coaster scenes were filmed?

Does anybody know where the roller coaster scenes were filmed?

LOL

I know some of the scenes were filmed on the studio Back Lot, and rather poorly at that - props with painted backgrounds ...

Right the scenes where they're supposedly doing the ride are fake-backgrounded, like when people are riding in cars on TV. Note at the beginning and end of the ride they are on realistic-looking roller coaster cars. Those short scenes may have been filmed at a real amusement park somewhere. But having them really ride a roller coaster and film it would probably have cost way more than In The Soup.

Like most shows they had excellent film editors, who kind of work magic. Actually it creates a pretty realistic-looking ride.

One episode I wish they had done on location was A Night in the Woods. The set design wasn't bad, but a real woods would have looked way better. They probably would have had to do the Eddie-on-the-ledge scene on the soundstage still. Finding a real setup like that one would have been near impossible. In the real world it would have been by-bye Eddie.

And in every episode he helps out Beaver in some way. Except in Nobody Loves Me. Beaver feels left out because he has Mousey and Wilbur. I don’t recall Gus in Beaver Becomes a Hero.

Beaver looked for him at the auxiliary firehouse in Beaver’s Prep School.

And in every episode he helps out Beaver in some way. Except in Nobody Loves Me. Beaver feels left out because he has Mousey and Wilbur. I don’t recall Gus in Beaver Becomes a Hero.

Beaver looked for him at the auxiliary firehouse in Beaver’s Prep School.

Beaver did his first sentimental tour in Nobody Loves Me. He was legitimately depressed. But he also uncharacteristically asserted himself: "OK, send me to reform school for spillin' a glass o' water." At that point W&J were still in the dark (and probably would never have gotten a clue if Wally hadn't said something to June.)

Then he did his second tour in Beaver's Prep School. This time he was dreading (kind of) being sent to Fallbrook. The tree carving visit was interesting.

I don't know how Gus would be involved in Beaver Becomes a Hero. Maybe MeTV cuts it out. I'll check it out on the DVD. (Here's some possible dialog: "Gus, the paper mis-spelled my name. Can you figure out a way to get that changed?" "I'll oil your typewriter again and you can print a new one.")

Yup just checked it out on IMDB and he appeared in 14 episodes of LITB. Not in Beaver Becomes a Hero.

I also checked the episode credits for Beaver Becomes a Hero: I thought Burt Mustin might have been scheduled but didn't appear. He's not in the credits, either.

Somebody ought to correct the Wikipedia episode list for season 4, but I don't know how to do it. I corrected my list on here.

This is one of my favorite episodes! I love that Eddie got Beaver so scared about riding that roller coaster and then Beaver ended up having a blast while Eddie was hanging onto Lumpy for dear life!

This is really a good episode. It's well written, and something that could really happen. Beaver had a good scene with Mr. Gus, in Burt Mustin's final appearance. At Bellport, I liked the way they twisted it around and had Eddie turn green during the ride.

On location shots, in front of the Cleaver house, must have been early on a Hollywood morning, because you could see their breath.

The roller coaster shots, all done on the soundstage, were very well synchronized, and made to look quite realistic in post production. It must have been one of the more-expensive episodes to produce.

Right the scenes where they're supposedly doing the ride are fake-backgrounded, like when people are riding in cars on TV. Note at the beginning and end of the ride they are on realistic-looking roller coaster cars. Those short scenes may have been filmed at a real amusement park somewhere. But having them really ride a roller coaster and film it would probably have cost way more than In The Soup.



like when people are riding in cars on TV.

and some times they do it this way
imagine being in the car during this shot lol

This is really a good episode. It's well written, and something that could really happen. Beaver had a good scene with Mr. Gus, in Burt Mustin's final appearance. At Bellport, I liked the way they twisted it around and had Eddie turn green during the ride.

On location shots, in front of the Cleaver house, must have been early on a Hollywood morning, because you could see their breath.

The roller coaster shots, all done on the soundstage, were very well synchronized, and made to look quite realistic in post production. It must have been one of the more-expensive episodes to produce.

Yes, the roller coaster "footage" was quite well done, especially given the time period in which it was accomplished in.

Rewatching the scene a few times, I focused on Eddie's and Beaver's emotions/manners, vis-a-vis their facial expressions from the beginning of the ride to the end. Very well played by the actors ( and by the director's direction thereof ) in that we can see the gradual 180 degree shift from opposite ends of the spectrum of their respective moods, and how each other morphed at seemingly the exact same rate. Like two chameleons swapping colors, and for the briefest time, had similar "colors".