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Jon
01-17-2019, 05:48 PM
Anyone else heard about this? I hope it is true

https://productionbulletin.com/database/

Todd Mueller
01-17-2019, 11:55 PM
AWESOME! I so hope this is legit!

drew790
01-18-2019, 11:36 AM
I need to know who they're getting to host before I truly get excited.

MA
01-18-2019, 11:41 AM
I wonder the same thing. Who is going to be hosting it?

Jon
01-18-2019, 11:42 AM
The reddit user who shared that info had a membership to this site Production Bulletin so he was able to post the details that are whited out in the link.

Show description from the site : UNSOLVED MYSTERIES (NETFLIX (S)) February 2019 21 LAPS ENTERTAINMENT 10201 West Pico Blvd., Building 41, Suite 400, Los Angeles, CA 90064 PHONE: 310-369-7170 FAX:310-969-0809 STATUS: FEBRUARY 2019 PRODUCER: Terry Dunn Meurer, Christine Lenig COSGROVE-MEURER PRODUCTIONS 4303 W. Verdugo Ave., Burbank, CA 91604 818-843-5600 FAX: 818-843-8585 NETFLIX 5800 Sunset Boulevard, Hollywood, CA 90028 310-734-2900 lahiring@netflix.com The series reboot uses re-enactments and interviews to retell the circumstances of, well, mysteries that are unsolved. Covering crimes, tales of lost love, unexplained history and paranormal events, viewers are encouraged to call in with information that might solve the mystery

MA
01-18-2019, 11:46 AM
I had a good feeling the show would be coming to Netflix.

Vronksy
01-18-2019, 03:06 PM
Confirmed: Netflix is Rebooting Unsolved Mysteries (https://bloody-disgusting.com/tv/3542379/theres-rumor-netflix-rebooting-unsolved-mysteries/)

No other details released, but this publication did evidently get confirmation that the show is happening.

tarheelslim
01-18-2019, 03:18 PM
The reddit user who shared that info had a membership to this site Production Bulletin so he was able to post the details that are whited out in the link.

Show description from the site : UNSOLVED MYSTERIES (NETFLIX (S)) February 2019 21 LAPS ENTERTAINMENT 10201 West Pico Blvd., Building 41, Suite 400, Los Angeles, CA 90064 PHONE: 310-369-7170 FAX:310-969-0809 STATUS: FEBRUARY 2019 PRODUCER: Terry Dunn Meurer, Christine Lenig COSGROVE-MEURER PRODUCTIONS 4303 W. Verdugo Ave., Burbank, CA 91604 818-843-5600 FAX: 818-843-8585 NETFLIX 5800 Sunset Boulevard, Hollywood, CA 90028 310-734-2900 lahiring@netflix.com The series reboot uses re-enactments and interviews to retell the circumstances of, well, mysteries that are unsolved. Covering crimes, tales of lost love, unexplained history and paranormal events, viewers are encouraged to call in with information that might solve the mystery

I sure did not expect this of Netflix (the only major streaming platform UM has not been on?), especially not with the same format as the original (according to the above).

Pretty excited...

drew4824
01-18-2019, 03:37 PM
Here is a bit more detail: https://deadline.com/2019/01/netflix-unsolved-mysteries-shawn-levy-1202537462/

Looks like it will run 12 episodes and include 1 case per show.

Labonte18
01-18-2019, 04:10 PM
Here is a bit more detail: https://deadline.com/2019/01/netflix-unsolved-mysteries-shawn-levy-1202537462/

Looks like it will run 12 episodes and include 1 case per show.

I suspect it will run more than that.. Once they see the production costs, which are fairly low, and the views I suspect it will pull.. I think they'll be quite happy. The only thing.. They need to put the new shows under their own category, not lump them in with the classic Unsolved Mysteries episodes as season 15 or whatever.

Just a thought.. I'm betting they renew it.. Expand it.. And someone at Netflix starts saying "Should we talk to John Walsh about reviving America's Most Wanted?"

drew790
01-18-2019, 04:39 PM
1 case per show.

Ugh. I don't know if I have it in me for either a 30 or 60 minute lost love episode. That was the beauty of doing segments.

drew790
01-18-2019, 04:39 PM
Hopefully this deal includes the original Stack series, then I can cancel Prime.

tarheelslim
01-18-2019, 04:55 PM
Hopefully this deal includes the original Stack series, then I can cancel Prime.

I have to imagine they will add RSUM, it just doesn't make any sense that they wouldn't (they would basically be promoting the original series on other platforms if they weren't showing it, it's hard to believe they would do that).... isn't Forensic Files licensed through Filmrise to Netflix?

tarheelslim
01-18-2019, 04:57 PM
I suspect it will run more than that.. Once they see the production costs, which are fairly low, and the views I suspect it will pull.. I think they'll be quite happy.

The bummer is it always seems to take so long for Netflix to add more of their originals. Perhaps production for this show will be faster than the scripted ones and it won't take 1-2 years for new batches.

Kane
01-18-2019, 04:58 PM
Ugh. I don't know if I have it in me for either a 30 or 60 minute lost love episode. That was the beauty of doing segments.

I agree with you, Drew790. The one-case-per-episode strategy doesn't sit well with me. Sure, it works for other true crime shows, but just because they do it doesn't mean UM should follow suit. The beauty of the show was having 3 to 4 episodes per one-hour episode, especially since it's a public service program. Limiting each episode to one case will mean a considerable limit to number of cases they cover, as well as a limit to the number of cases they eventually solve. UM doesn't need to have any case (even unsolved murders) drawn out to a full hour, in which case the segments will be long-winded and they will have to add "filler" to complete the whole episode. There are already plenty true crime shows doing that without UM joining in.

Also, while I have no issue with UM being on a streaming service, new episodes of the series should not be limited to that outlet. It needs to be on television as well, and I think we can all agree on that.

5thcorps
01-18-2019, 05:05 PM
They should stick with the proven 3-4 segments per airing. There is no reason to utilize a complete episode to give the basic facts, descriptions, information law enforcement contacts. They will end up solving more cases if they return to the original multi-segment format.

drew790
01-18-2019, 05:12 PM
Insert obligatory pitch for Lance Henrickson to host here.

5thcorps
01-18-2019, 05:16 PM
How about William Shatner? He did a great job on Rescue 911 years ago and with his own talk show. Brian Dennehy would do a great job

drew790
01-18-2019, 05:19 PM
Shatner is corny.

tarheelslim
01-18-2019, 05:21 PM
How about William Shatner? He did a great job on Rescue 911 years ago and with his own talk show.

Actually... "William Shatner Is Returning As Host Of Rescue 911 Reboot"

https://www.cinemablend.com/television/2460669/william-shatner-is-returning-as-host-of-rescue-911-reboot

Kane
01-18-2019, 05:35 PM
How about William Shatner?

Shatner? Not unless you really want an egomaniac.

5thcorps
01-18-2019, 05:38 PM
I thought he did great on Rescue 911, which was basically born off of UM. But as the post states above they're revamping that too. I could see Brian Dennehy doing it and bringing some of his own intensity to it. I fear they're gonna try to get some stupid trendy idiot

Huskerz85
01-18-2019, 05:39 PM
Hope they include *some* classic piece......like the graphics, or the music or (please please please!) both! Having the original intro (voiced by Danny Dark) would be awesome too (the new guy voicing it on the Amazon edits reminds me of Napoleon Dynamite)

DP1
01-18-2019, 05:41 PM
Very happy to hear that the show is coming back although I agree, they should produce them as 3-4 segments per episode. As noted, almost all of these crime-related shows do one an episode and by restricting UM to this, you are making it like all the rest.

That being said, I'm excited about the show's return. With it being on Netflix, that means there will be a LOT of exposure to help these old and new cases be solved. Plus, it might lead to the old Robert Stack episodes being on it. A nice story coming just days after what would have been his 100th birthday.

But it won't be the same without Robert Stack.

I also hope they don't give the show too much of a polished look. UM looked better and was more creepy when it was more "low budget."

But anyway, this is good news on so many levels!

Guardian
01-18-2019, 05:42 PM
How about William Shatner? He did a great job on Rescue 911 years ago and with his own talk show. Brian Dennehy would do a great job

Actually, I have been championing this since Robert Stack died (Shatner I mean). While the host is important imo, I’m just happy to have the show back.

I’m not overly thrilled about 1 segment per show, but it works well for Disappeared, so I think UM will make it work. Plus it leaves more time to get more info in per case. UM unfortunately had to edit a lot of content for time in the original run. Although the streaming vehicle would eliminate this anyway, I think from a production cost standpoint, it makes sense. Each episode will have research, travel, and re-enactment costs for a single area/case. So I can deal with it. Besides, people will binge watch anyway so it only makes sense.

Labonte18
01-18-2019, 06:15 PM
Shatner would do a great job, I think. However.. Shatner is 87.

I would think that since they're only doing one case per episode.. It might just be a good voice actor with no screen time. That would also help keep costs down.

If they do expand to 60 minutes and do the 3-4 per episode (I am assuming 20-30 minutes if they're doing a single case) then maybe they get a host.

everybodylovesrs
01-18-2019, 06:48 PM
That they are only doing one case per episode shows that Cosgrove-Muerer have not learned anything.

They will probably get some loser like Carrot Top to host the show. If not, David Duchovny. They have no clue. :(

GDAWG
01-18-2019, 07:20 PM
One case per show is not exciting. It makes them more like Dateline or 48 Hours.

My pick to host is Stacey Keach. Or Keith David.

drew790
01-18-2019, 07:24 PM
Can you imagine 60 minutes about the polio girl looking for her childhood friend?

I'd die.

Todd Mueller
01-18-2019, 08:06 PM
Can you imagine 60 minutes about the polio girl looking for her childhood friend?

I'd die.

Dammit... I just sprayed coffee all over my keyboad reading this. :lol:

Guardian
01-18-2019, 08:09 PM
My guess is we may not see much, if any Lost Love episodes. If they do, I could see them combining those into more of a theme based episode. So while maybe not separate segments like the original series, they might do one episode with 2 or 3 lost loved that share a common theme of sorts. Just a thought though.

Guardian
01-18-2019, 08:11 PM
Also, with it being on Netflix, even if they did a full hour for a single Lost Love case, with streaming rather than TV, you can easily just skip to the next episode

JannTosh
01-18-2019, 08:15 PM
Don’t expect it to be anything like the original Stck version. It will be completely different in tone and presentation. It will probably be exactly like an ID show with the name Unsplved Mysteries on it

Kane
01-18-2019, 08:38 PM
That they are only doing one case per episode shows that Cosgrove-Muerer have not learned anything.

Sad but true. Those who don't learn from history are destined to repeat it. The 2008 Spike version of UM was met with a negative reception from fans. And what happens? They decide to reboot it again, this time as a one-case-per-episode series. It may be fashionable for true crime shows to use that approach, but that doesn't mean UM should follow suit. Fans will be disappointed again. Fans want the UM they know and love, not the one that gets rebooted as a faceless entity. As the old saying goes, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

drew790
01-18-2019, 09:25 PM
I think it's early days to really be saying they haven't learned, IMO.

We know next to nothing really except for that one line. If the episodes are short, it's not a big deal. Unsolved Mysteries did do 20 minute segments at times. All we really have is 12 episodes but no run time. If they're half hourish episodes this actually helps tell a more complete story, since with 30 years going by we know that was an issue for them. According to another site's write up they're giving it a decent budget akin to their other docuseries, this is good.

I hate that Farina version as much as anyone, I don't even consider it Unsolved Mysteries, but I'm not imagining Google Earth or stock rock music will be in Netflix's future.

Jon
01-18-2019, 10:16 PM
Given that this revival will be from the producer of Stranger Things and the popularity of 80s/90s nostalgia is as high as ever, I'd expect this version to be celebratory of the original style of the show.

Guardian
01-18-2019, 11:23 PM
Given that this revival will be from the producer of Stranger Things and the popularity of 80s/90s nostalgia is as high as ever, I'd expect this version to be celebratory of the original style of the show.

My thoughts exactly. When I first saw this was the case, I got super excited because I’m sure they will do it right. I’m sure some things will be updated. Personally, I’d love to see the re-enactments done on 16mm film as the early seasons were. It gives it that gritty, grainy, creepy look to it. But I know they will likely be shooting all digital. But I am just glad to have the series back.

As far as run time, I think longer segments will be fine. As I said before, with binge watching a thing now, I think it really won’t be a big deal. Most will sit and watch the season over a weekend anyway so who cares if it’s only one story per episode? I say just think of the entire season as one big episode with -2 segments. Just skip to the next episode if you don’t like the segment/episode that is on.

DazzlerSparkler
01-19-2019, 02:21 AM
Interesting but it wont work without Rob.

Also....ugh the acting. It will not hold a candle to early UM when they shot on film

tsaun
01-19-2019, 05:18 AM
Jonathan Frakes might be good

hostedbyrobertstack
01-19-2019, 07:50 AM
This is amazing news! Amazing in the sense that it's coming back, although I have soon realized from having UM on streaming that I really only "rewatch" seasons 1-5, and skip the rest. High hopes since this is being redone by Stranger Things producer, as that show is pretty high quality and true to the era. Hopefully they realize that is what people want and remember about UM.

DALLASTEXAN!!
01-19-2019, 08:00 AM
I'm happy it is coming back. It won't be 1989 version, but I don't care. I got my Amazon Prime to comfort me.

MA
01-19-2019, 08:11 AM
I can picture John Larroquette being the host.

drew790
01-19-2019, 10:30 AM
Tony Todd would also be good I think.

drew790
01-19-2019, 10:35 AM
I'm happy it is coming back. It won't be 1989 version, but I don't care. I got my Amazon Prime to comfort me.

This right here.

Nothing and no one will ever touch what Robert Stack did. If I go into it expecting to watch a lost episode of the NBC era I'm going to be disappointed.

I would HOPE they learned from the mistakes of the Spike hackery, though on the flip side it's the only version that current average viewers likely know since it's all that gets replayed on TV. (I don't get Lifetime not airing their own version) I'm just going to remain optimistic until I have a reason not to be, and I've already disowned one remake and replayed the OG into the ground I'll do it again if it warrants it.

Netflix has been killing it with the crime docs lately. The Innocent Man, Murder Mountain, Evil Genius, and obviously Making a Murderer, they've all been well produced without a google map in site :lol:

alistaircranium
01-19-2019, 10:44 AM
Also, while I have no issue with UM being on a streaming service, new episodes of the series should not be limited to that outlet. It needs to be on television as well, and I think we can all agree on that.



Sorry to burst your bubble, but you thought wrong.

Ad-supported broadcast television will not be around in ten years. Streaming is the future. Netflix has over 200 million subscribers worldwide. A new version of Unsolved Mysteries on a broadcast network would be lucky to get 5 million viewers. The only people who still watch broadcast networks religiously are the old farts who watch those insipid CBS procedurals.


Unsolved Mysteries being rebooted on Netflix is a great move and I for one cannot wait to add it to my list and begin streaming.

alistaircranium
01-19-2019, 10:48 AM
I like the format change. There is no need for segments on a show without commercials. And I agree with everyone who's mentioned binge-watching. When you sit down and watch 3-4 episodes, it'll feel like you watched a long episode with segments.

Netflix, along with other streaming outlets and cable networks, do long opening credits with theme music whereas the regular broadcast networks have phased those out, so I'm confident the original theme music will return (of course I imagine it will be a newly recorded version).

I would be very surprised if they don't get a host, but at the same time, Robert Stack is irreplaceable. They'll have to have a narrator, but will that person also be a host? BTW, I'm still crossing my fingers for Christopher Walken to host.

DP1
01-19-2019, 10:59 AM
I tried to think of old actors for Robert Stack's era but they are almost all sadly gone. Just going to throw an old actor's name out there...Bruce Dern.

Kane
01-19-2019, 12:34 PM
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you thought wrong.

Ad-supported broadcast television will not be around in ten years. Streaming is the future. Netflix has over 200 million subscribers worldwide. A new version of Unsolved Mysteries on a broadcast network would be lucky to get 5 million viewers. The only people who still watch broadcast networks religiously are the old farts who watch those insipid CBS procedurals.

Well, I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but if you really think that UM doesn't need to be on television, then you're in the minority. And if you think that broadcast networks are only watched by "old farts," then you have been brainwashed into believing it. That being said, I do feel that UM doesn't have a chance of coming back to primetime television. I feel that If it were to come back as a first-run series on television, it would have to be through either syndication or cable (the former of which would be a better option IMHO).

There is no denying that primetime network viewership has been doing downhill in recent years. But cable and streamlining services are not the only reasons for it. Another is that there is so much trash on primetime that is being jammed down our throats.

alistaircranium
01-19-2019, 01:02 PM
Well, I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but if you really think that UM doesn't need to be on television, then you're in the minority.

Is that so?! I'd love to see the stats!!! Care to share? :lol::lol::lol:

No use in arguing. Unsolved Mysteries is being rebooted on Netflix where it belongs. So I guess I win. ;)

Just don't make blanket statements as if you speak for everyone.

drew790
01-19-2019, 01:21 PM
Well, I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but if you really think that UM doesn't need to be on television, then you're in the minority. And if you think that broadcast networks are only watched by "old farts," then you have been brainwashed into believing it. That being said, I do feel that UM doesn't have a chance of coming back to primetime television. I feel that If it were to come back as a first-run series on television, it would have to be through either syndication or cable (the former of which would be a better option IMHO).

There is no denying that primetime network viewership has been doing downhill in recent years. But cable and streamlining services are not the only reasons for it. Another is that there is so much trash on primetime that is being jammed down our throats.

Syndication would be even worse than cable. It's not the juggernaut it was 25 years ago, cable has taken that over. Most of the memable / pop culture moments coming out of TV these days are coming from the Bravos, Es, TLCs, Paramount Networks, etc. Syndication has been mostly relegated to reruns of Network/Cable shows or daytime fare. Crime Watch Daily couldn't make it.

Kane
01-19-2019, 01:38 PM
Is that so?! I'd love to see the stats!!! Care to share? :lol::lol::lol:

No use in arguing. Unsolved Mysteries is being rebooted on Netflix where it belongs. So I guess I win. ;)

Just don't make blanket statements as if you speak for everyone.


Maybe I exaggerated a bit. But I did so to emphasize that there are in fact still plenty of people who still watch televsion. And if that makes them "old farts" in your prejudiced view, then so be it.

yellowVWchase
01-19-2019, 02:00 PM
My guess is we may not see much, if any Lost Love episodes. If they do, I could see them combining those into more of a theme based episode. So while maybe not separate segments like the original series, they might do one episode with 2 or 3 lost loved that share a common theme of sorts. Just a thought though.

This was my thinking. It's not like it's 1989 anymore, where you don't have access to genealogical websites, the internet, and social media, all of which would help you in finding your long-lost cousin who was adopted by a Swiss family in Iowa in 1930. "Lost Loves" would be the easiest to solve, and would probably be solved by the family members themselves with all the tech available at our fingertips today.

DALLASTEXAN!!
01-19-2019, 04:12 PM
This right here.

Nothing and no one will ever touch what Robert Stack did. If I go into it expecting to watch a lost episode of the NBC era I'm going to be disappointed.

I would HOPE they learned from the mistakes of the Spike hackery, though on the flip side it's the only version that current average viewers likely know since it's all that gets replayed on TV. (I don't get Lifetime not airing their own version) I'm just going to remain optimistic until I have a reason not to be, and I've already disowned one remake and replayed the OG into the ground I'll do it again if it warrants it.

Netflix has been killing it with the crime docs lately. The Innocent Man, Murder Mountain, Evil Genius, and obviously Making a Murderer, they've all been well produced without a google map in site :lol:
I agree, I think the difference now is we will have new episodes and maybe some netflix momentum to look forward to. But the new episodes are what we all have been wanting for a long time.

hostedbyrobertstack
01-19-2019, 06:26 PM
Actually, I forgot to mention, the good thing about UM being revived by Netflix is that I have actually noticed with most NF original programming that the production value is much higher than most of the "sitcoms" that are on network television. They seem to take pride in many of their shows.

sffan
01-19-2019, 07:35 PM
Thought a reboot would never happen! It's been 8 years since Farina's UM ended and nearly 17 since the OG run ended. I agree with the notion that Netflix viewers have a craving for true crime documentary series, look at Making a Murderer, Murder Mountain, ect... I think this new UM could attract young netflix viewers and could run for awhile, if the quality is there. As for the one segment per episode I have mixed feelings, but if each episode is around 30 minutes I don't see it as being a huge issue as one could watch multiple episodes in one sitting. I do hope they could do some updates from old cases thrown in there such as the EAR/ONS/GSK, but not sure if that would fit in.

ChandlerMurielB1
01-19-2019, 08:22 PM
Hmm... not sure about this. I'm worried they'll make it like one of those cheap, crappy shows on C&I...

I think a character actor who is known for creepy roles would be a good host, though. Someone like Steve Buscemi, Willem Dafoe, Tom Noonan or Clint Howard.

GDAWG
01-19-2019, 08:41 PM
Thought a reboot would never happen! It's been 8 years since Farina's UM ended and nearly 17 since the OG run ended. I agree with the notion that Netflix viewers have a craving for true crime documentary series, look at Making a Murderer, Murder Mountain, ect... I think this new UM could attract young netflix viewers and could run for awhile, if the quality is there. As for the one segment per episode I have mixed feelings, but if each episode is around 30 minutes I don't see it as being a huge issue as one could watch multiple episodes in one sitting. I do hope they could do some updates from old cases thrown in there such as the EAR/ONS/GSK, but not sure if that would fit in.

48 Hours and 20/20 did specials on the Golden State Killer, and 48 Hours updated the episode they did on him from a few years before. Crime Watch Daily also had a feature on him, so I don't think we'll see him mentioned in the reboot.

drew790
01-19-2019, 10:20 PM
I'd actually like to see the new series stick to its own cases, rather than updating the originals. They can let Filmrise do that in their streaming episodes (they updated their updates at least once already).

I'm mostly unconcerned about the while '08 fiasco because we know this will be original cases. For the stylistic faults that version had 80% of its problem was that it didn't produce a minute of original content. Flipping from video to 80s film and back again, claiming credit for updates from "a recent broadcast" when everyone in the footage had a damn mullet, etc. It looked a mess.

Kane
01-20-2019, 12:28 PM
One case per show is not exciting. It makes them more like Dateline or 48 Hours.

I totally agree, GDAWG. It's as though UM is trying to copy other shows. A recent show emulating an older show is one thing, but it an older show emulating a more recent one is something else entirely. Although it is not yet known as to how long each new episode will actually be (a half-hour, full-hour, etc.), the one-segment-per-episode method will severely undermine the purpose of UM, if not defeat it. The show's segments were very effective in saying a lot in 12 to 15 minutes, especially the missing persons and wanted segments. The show effectively played like a newsmagazine (e.g. 60 Minutes and 20/20) in the sense of featuring 3 or 4 stories per one-hour episode.

Todd Mueller
01-20-2019, 12:36 PM
Although it is not yet known as to how long each new episode will actually be (a half-hour, full-hour, etc.), the one-segment-per-episode method will severely undermine the purpose of UM, if not defeat it. The show's segments were very effective in saying a lot in 12 to 15 minutes, especially the missing persons and wanted segments. The show effectively played like a newsmagazine (e.g. 60 Minutes and 20/20) in the sense of featuring 3 or 4 stories per one-hour episode.

I couldn't agree more, Kane. You hit the nail on the head. If they are truly trying to get back to what made UM great, it needs to be a (small) variety of cases that are 15-20 minutes and creepy AF. The nice thing is that they aren't locked into a 60 minute time frame of cases and ads. On Netflix, if it only goes 50 minutes or goes 1:10, who cares? That will give them a little more leeway but hopefully they still capture the spirit of the classic episodes.

Todd Mueller
01-20-2019, 12:39 PM
The only people who still watch broadcast networks religiously are the old farts who watch those insipid CBS procedurals.

"Old farts"... as in anyone over 18? :rolleyes:

Seriously, how immature are you? Grow up.

drew790
01-20-2019, 02:28 PM
The show's segments were very effective in saying a lot in 12 to 15 minutes.

Except we know with the benefit of 20+ years of hindsight that this isn't true. That they left out or skewed a lot of details to fit a narrative into an allotted amount of time.

Kane
01-20-2019, 02:31 PM
Except we know with the benefit of 20+ years of hindsight that this isn't true. That they left out or skewed a lot of details to fit a narrative into an allotted amount of time.

Even so, it doesn't justify limiting the number of cases to one per episode.

Jon
01-20-2019, 03:30 PM
IIRC there are shows on Netflix that run under 25 minutes. I'd guess the initial season will be twelve one-segment 20-25 minute episodes, and subject to reception/viewership they'll release seasons later with 2X as many episodes or more.

yellowVWchase
01-20-2019, 04:25 PM
Hmm... not sure about this. I'm worried they'll make it like one of those cheap, crappy shows on C&I...

I think a character actor who is known for creepy roles would be a good host, though. Someone like Steve Buscemi, Willem Dafoe, Tom Noonan or Clint Howard.

Tom Noonan would be great, but I doubt they would offer it and I doubt he would be interested in taking it.

James Elroy hosted a show on cable a while back, and he was fairly good. But he's not a household name/face.

If Jerry Orbach were still alive, I would love to see him do it; he has a fantastic stage voice that can go from warm to downright ominous.

EighthStreet
01-20-2019, 04:43 PM
Jonathan Frakes might be good

You know, Tim Russ from Voyager could be a good choice.

Labonte18
01-21-2019, 01:08 AM
My pick to host is Stacey Keach.

I swear, I just had to look this up.. I thought he was dead.


Nothing and no one will ever touch what Robert Stack did.

he *IS* dead, so.. Nothing's going to bring the 80's version back. Personally, I don't get all the hate for the Spike version, other than the fact that they didn't shoot any new episodes. Farina.. He had a tough act to follow, and I think he did a fine job. no matter who was put in there, and no matter who goes in now.. Comparisons to Stack will abound.

You know, Tim Russ from Voyager could be a good choice.

Lord.. Are we going through all the Star Trek actors? John deLancie?

The host, if they use one, is very important. I mean, Joe Pesci is a great actor, but.. Put him in there? Well, that'd make one hell of an SNL skit, I think. But not a great run of UM. "After robbin' da bank, dese two a-holes hop into a car.."

Assuming they use an on-air host.. Whoever it is needs to have a distinguishable voice. And a lack of a regional accent. No Boston/New York.. No THICK southern drawl.. Some off the wall names.. James Earl Jones or Morgan Freeman, though they're probably too expensive.. And if it's just off-screen voice work.. Peter Cullen. He certainly has the 80's nostalgia..

drew790
01-21-2019, 01:50 AM
he *IS* dead, so.. Nothing's going to bring the 80's version back.

Which is what I've been saying across the whole thread, including the next sentence that you cut off. "If I go into it expecting to watch a lost episode of the NBC era I'm going to be disappointed. "

The problem with the Farina era was not Farina.

isotope
01-21-2019, 01:52 AM
Assuming they use an on-air host.. Whoever it is needs to have a distinguishable voice. And a lack of a regional accent.

Christopher Walken would be my dream pick.

VERY excited about this. There is huge interest in unsolved crimes (there's a reason the original UM ran for so many years) and I cannot imagine this show would be too expensive to produce - if streaming numbers are solid for the first season, I see Netflix commissioning dozens of further episodes....who knows, we may eventually get to the truth about Resurrection Mary! :lol::lol:

drew790
01-21-2019, 01:57 AM
Christopher Walken would be my dream pick.

VERY excited about this. There is huge interest in unsolved crimes (there's a reason the original UM ran for so many years) and I cannot imagine this show would be too expensive to produce - if streaming numbers are solid for the first season, I see Netflix commissioning dozens of further episodes....who knows, we may eventually get to the truth about Resurrection Mary! :lol::lol:

I guess it can be taken as an indicator of the success of Filmrise's release of the classic series as well, we don't get a whole lot in the way of streaming numbers and even less so for rerun series but there's no way this got picked up to series if they weren't doing well on Prime or the Filmrise app.

TheCars1986
01-21-2019, 10:03 AM
Am I the only one who likes the concept of one case per episode? That way UM cannot afford to cut additional information out of cases to fit a 12 minute time frame. The more information presented, the better. Also excited that the guys behind Stranger Things are producing this. I definitely think this will be a cool throwback to the original version with Stack.

drew790
01-21-2019, 11:18 AM
Am I the only one who likes the concept of one case per episode? That way UM cannot afford to cut additional information out of cases to fit a 12 minute time frame. The more information presented, the better. Also excited that the guys behind Stranger Things are producing this. I definitely think this will be a cool throwback to the original version with Stack.

I prefer smaller segments but I'm not opposed to 1 case per episode either. Until it's an hour of a Lost Love case, then I'll toss something :D

TheCars1986
01-21-2019, 12:27 PM
I prefer smaller segments but I'm not opposed to 1 case per episode either. Until it's an hour of a Lost Love case, then I'll toss something :D

I don't see how they would be able to stretch a lost love case to an hour, especially this day in age with technology helping reunite people more than ever before.

Labonte18
01-21-2019, 12:30 PM
Am I the only one who likes the concept of one case per episode? That way UM cannot afford to cut additional information out of cases to fit a 12 minute time frame. The more information presented, the better. Also excited that the guys behind Stranger Things are producing this. I definitely think this will be a cool throwback to the original version with Stack.

It can go either way. I certainly agree that on some cases, they needed more time than they had available.. Of course.. We can also look at "Final Appeal" as for how things went with one case for an hour. True that is something of an apples-to-oranges situation, but..

Some of them.. I think "mothman" was one that went 2 breaks? Ugh.. I certainly hope they avoid the truly outlandish things like that. Some of that style (Unsolved Phenomenon) case would be OK.. I mean, the Taos Hum and Marfa Lights cases at least had some proof that they actually existed. Nazca Lines was another good one. But stay away from the monster of the week type stuff.

DALLASTEXAN!!
01-21-2019, 12:35 PM
I think the one episode format can be successful. Like it or not the old format did not last the test of time in regards to gaining and keeping viewers. there were too many poor quality segments and in turn the show did not age well. Viewers like myself and many others obviously remained loyal, but even the loyal viewers have all complained about this on here. I think taking one good story and making it high quality is important. In some ways UM were already doing this with their final appeal format as Labonte18 mentioned. I also look back at some of the 20-30 minute segments like Audrey Moate, Rudolph Hess, Huey Long etc. those were high quality and went into more depth than the shorter ones. I enjoy those.

amandab1234
01-21-2019, 02:11 PM
There’s an APP called Tubi Tv that has UM for free (similar to amazon except it’s free) if anyone’s interested just FYI

Labonte18
01-21-2019, 03:37 PM
I think the one episode format can be successful. Like it or not the old format did not last the test of time in regards to gaining and keeping viewers. there were too many poor quality segments and in turn the show did not age well. Viewers like myself and many others obviously remained loyal, but even the loyal viewers have all complained about this on here. I think taking one good story and making it high quality is important. In some ways UM were already doing this with their final appeal format as Labonte18 mentioned. I also look back at some of the 20-30 minute segments like Audrey Moate, Rudolph Hess, Huey Long etc. those were high quality and went into more depth than the shorter ones. I enjoy those.

Huey Long and Amelia Earhart were two of the finest segments, I think, they ever did. You could do a 2 hour episode on Amelia Earhart. And Discovery/History seems to do just that every year or two

Unfortunately, those are also two cases that likely will never be truly "solved".. Regardless of what press releases TIGHAR puts out. I despise them for their sensationalism. Earhart has a better chance than Huey Long. The Long case is strongly suspected that Weiss didn't actually kill him, but again, that's something that can really never truly be known.

drew790
01-21-2019, 03:56 PM
I don't see how they would be able to stretch a lost love case to an hour, especially this day in age with technology helping reunite people more than ever before.

I don't know either, but it was mentioned in the original write up so I'm assuming it's a plan.

60 minutes about the magic rock .... :D

drew790
01-21-2019, 03:57 PM
I think the one episode format can be successful. Like it or not the old format did not last the test of time in regards to gaining and keeping viewers. there were too many poor quality segments and in turn the show did not age well. Viewers like myself and many others obviously remained loyal, but even the loyal viewers have all complained about this on here. I think taking one good story and making it high quality is important. In some ways UM were already doing this with their final appeal format as Labonte18 mentioned. I also look back at some of the 20-30 minute segments like Audrey Moate, Rudolph Hess, Huey Long etc. those were high quality and went into more depth than the shorter ones. I enjoy those.

True. The large volume of segments led to content fatigue and segments about gorillas and boy geniuses.

TheCars1986
01-21-2019, 04:15 PM
I don't know either, but it was mentioned in the original write up so I'm assuming it's a plan.

60 minutes about the magic rock .... :D

Netflix's press release says nothing about the content of the segments, but if they are only going to do 12 episodes with one case per episode, I would think that would mean they are leaning towards missing people/murder/wanted, etc.

drew790
01-21-2019, 04:51 PM
"The 12-part show will use re-enactments in a documentary format to profile real-life mysteries and unsolved crimes, lost love, cases involving missing persons and unexplained paranormal events. "

Is the original Deadline announcement.

Whether that ends up happening remains to be seen, but that's what was said in a bunch of the articles floating around.

RevengeTypeBurn
01-21-2019, 06:12 PM
Am I the only one who likes the concept of one case per episode? That way UM cannot afford to cut additional information out of cases to fit a 12 minute time frame. The more information presented, the better. Also excited that the guys behind Stranger Things are producing this. I definitely think this will be a cool throwback to the original version with Stack.

No, I like it too. I love the original series. Everything about it; production values, the 16mm film, score, format, host, and so on and so on. But it's not 1992 anymore. Streaming is the medium now. A reboot of UM which does not feed into the binge/share paradigm is guaranteed to fail, and would likely not have made it out of development. I am overjoyed that CMP appears to understand this, because it's a sign they're serious about doing this show right and collaborating with the Netflix people to bring the show into the new era.

I think a single segment (the mentioned 20-30 minute running length) format with the heart and soul of UM brought into a modern production and promotion pipeline could be a wonderful thing.

alistaircranium
01-21-2019, 06:14 PM
My prediction is that Netflix will release this series in October, just in time for Halloween.

mtaylor72
01-22-2019, 09:12 AM
Well, I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but if you really think that UM doesn't need to be on television, then you're in the minority. And if you think that broadcast networks are only watched by "old farts," then you have been brainwashed into believing it. That being said, I do feel that UM doesn't have a chance of coming back to primetime television. I feel that If it were to come back as a first-run series on television, it would have to be through either syndication or cable (the former of which would be a better option IMHO).


I agree with everything you've said, Kane.

People need to keep in mind that UM is not a sitcom or a work of fiction. It makes logical sense that it be aired on a broadcast network just like it was back in its glory days in order to gain more exposure to help solve cases. Especially if these cases are going to be new. Broadcast TV is free; Netflix isn't (unless it's included free as part of your cellular or cable subscription). Free means more viewers. It's just common sense.

Mike82
01-22-2019, 09:32 AM
Broadcast TV is free; Netflix isn't (unless it's included free as part of your cellular or cable subscription). Free means more viewers. It's just common sense.

Where I live (Canada), standard cable costs us about $100 or so a month and Netflix is $11. I think there is a basic option for very basic Broadcast TV but it still costs about $30 a month. Not to mention I can watch Netflix at work! That's not even getting into how annoying modern commercials are.

drew790
01-22-2019, 09:37 AM
Where I live (Canada), standard cable costs us about $100 or so a month and Netflix is $11. I think there is a basic option for very basic Broadcast TV but it still costs about $30 a month. Not to mention I can watch Netflix at work! That's not even getting into how annoying modern commercials are.

Right?

The networks have cancelled their similar shows. They didn't pick this up when it was being shopped around. Isn't something better than nothing?

A number of cases were also solved from Lifetime airings ... Lifetime was not free.

Kane
01-22-2019, 10:22 AM
I agree with everything you've said, Kane.

People need to keep in mind that UM is not a sitcom or a work of fiction. It makes logical sense that it be aired on a broadcast network just like it was back in its glory days in order to gain more exposure to help solve cases. Especially if these cases are going to be new. Broadcast TV is free; Netflix isn't (unless it's included free as part of your cellular or cable subscription). Free means more viewers. It's just common sense.

Thank you, Mtaylor72. If it were a scripted series (action, sitcom, or drama) being produced exclusively for a streamlining service, that would be another story. If a canceled network TV series were producing new episodes for a streamlining service (a la NBC's Community), especially for the purpose of producing enough episodes to make the show eligible for daily second-run syndication, then I could live with that. But as you clearly understand, UM isn't just any TV series. It's a TV series that profiles cases for viewers to help solve. By limiting the show to first-run streamlining, it limits the amount of viewership to people with streamlining subscriptions and risk limiting the amount of success they could potentially get in solving cases. Even in the age of streamlining services, there will always be a need for broadcast (or "over the air") television. Like you said, it's common sense. So much so that rejecting it would be foolish.

bip05
01-22-2019, 11:12 AM
according to this article:

https://bloody-disgusting.com/tv/3542642/netflixs-reboot-unsolved-mysteries-promises-maintain-chilling-feeling-original/

TheCars1986
01-22-2019, 11:22 AM
Stranger Things is one of the most watched TV shows of all time. Same with the Bird Box movie. Both exclusively to Netflix. Streaming is the future. You don't need to be on network TV to reach millions of people.

alistaircranium
01-22-2019, 12:36 PM
Stranger Things is one of the most watched TV shows of all time. Same with the Bird Box movie. Both exclusively to Netflix. Streaming is the future. You don't need to be on network TV to reach millions of people.

Thank you. Netflix has over 148 million subscribers worldwide, 60 million of whom are in the United States. Their reach is quite substantial.

Jon
01-22-2019, 01:44 PM
Netflix statement:
"This modern take on the classic series will maintain the chilling feeling viewers loved about the original, while also telling the stories through the lens of a premium Netflix documentary series. Each episode will focus on one mystery and once again will look to viewers to help aid investigators in closing the book on long outstanding cases.”

I can't ask for more than that

Source: https://bloody-disgusting.com/tv/3542642/netflixs-reboot-unsolved-mysteries-promises-maintain-chilling-feeling-original/

Edit: my bad...bip05 already shared that link

drew790
01-22-2019, 02:16 PM
Thank you. Netflix has over 148 million subscribers worldwide, 60 million of whom are in the United States. Their reach is quite substantial.

You can't buy a TV pretty much these days without Netflix installed on it as an app, same for any kind of disk player or smart tv stick.

If they could solve crimes from niche network Lifetime, where people had to buy postage and mail in tips, Netflix and twitter are going to be a breeze.

Guardian
01-23-2019, 12:12 AM
Assuming they use an on-air host.. Whoever it is needs to have a distinguishable voice. And a lack of a regional accent. No Boston/New York.. No THICK southern drawl.. Some off the wall names.. James Earl Jones or Morgan Freeman, though they're probably too expensive.. And if it's just off-screen voice work.. Peter Cullen. He certainly has the 80's nostalgia..

Peter Cullen! Haha Optimus Prime hosting UM! I love it!

Guardian
01-23-2019, 12:38 AM
As far as the streaming or cable debate, as well as a thought on the 1 case per episode, it really comes down to a few things

-Like it or not, streaming is the future. Even the cable companies are seeing this with allowing Netflix, YouTube, and other similar apps onto their service through a cable box. So while there are a lot of hold outs for the broadcast market, it is going away. That’s just a fact.

-Money. Cable is expensive. Broadcast tv is expensive to produce. This is why more and more the higher quality shows with better production values are being produced for streaming.

As far as the 1 case per episode, it goes back to:

-Money. By limiting each episode to 1 case, Netflix can produce each episode at a higher quality by focusing each episodes budget on a single case. If they divided it up into 4 or 5 segments for an hour long episode, that requires 4 to 5 individual segments that have to be produced. Not sure how many folks on here are familiar with how productions like this really work (I do short film and video production), but even with shorter segments, the cost of travel, actors, crew, etc would be higher per episode.

So 1 case per show is really a responsible budgeting stance. And I think we’ll get a better production value because of it. Netflix knows that with their proven “binge watching” viewers, that the feeling of the original shows will still be there as people will watch multiple cases in 1 sitting. Many smart TVs even have the option of skipping the intro of each episode when binge watching. So fire it up, watch the intro for the 1st episode, then binge watch four 30 minute episodes (skipping the subsequent intros) and you basically get a long Unsolved Mysteries episode. It makes perfect sense.

DP1
01-23-2019, 01:24 AM
Thank you. Netflix has over 148 million subscribers worldwide, 60 million of whom are in the United States. Their reach is quite substantial.

Agreed. Netflix will give Unsolved Mysteries massive exposure and buzz. That is good not only for the show but for the cases that they are presenting. It's the best possible chances for some of those cases to be solved.

drew790
01-23-2019, 09:31 AM
Just look at how many people are watching a show about cleaning your house ...

Labonte18
01-23-2019, 11:26 AM
Peter Cullen! Haha Optimus Prime hosting UM! I love it!

Thanks for catching it.. But, I'm serious about it. Think about how distinguished and recognizable a voice Peter Cullen has. OP obviously wasn't his own voice, but if you hear him speak, his natural voice is quite good.

Now, he has something of a face for radio... So.. That's why I said if it were VO only.

Todd Mueller
01-23-2019, 12:06 PM
So 1 case per show is really a responsible budgeting stance. And I think we’ll get a better production value because of it. Netflix knows that with their proven “binge watching” viewers, that the feeling of the original shows will still be there as people will watch multiple cases in 1 sitting. Many smart TVs even have the option of skipping the intro of each episode when binge watching. So fire it up, watch the intro for the 1st episode, then binge watch four 30 minute episodes (skipping the subsequent intros) and you basically get a long Unsolved Mysteries episode. It makes perfect sense.

I guess this ultimately comes down to the actual cases they pick. Watching 20-30 minutes on a story like Tommy Ziegler would be cool. Watching 20-30 minutes on Resurrection Mary, the Fertility Statues, the Magic Rock, et. al. will turn many viewers off. You could lump most Lost Loves stories in the latter category as well.

If the cases are cool and well done, then I think it will be okay. Yes, many people like binge watching Netflix so it will have more of the feel of the original broadcast. I always liked having 3-4 cases per night but that was in the day when you had to wait a week for each new episode.

I am optimistic that this will be well done and fun. I just really don't want a repeat of the Farina disaster. Hopefully CM has learned their lesson from that.

RevengeTypeBurn
01-23-2019, 12:11 PM
I guess this ultimately comes down to the actual cases they pick. Watching 20-30 minutes on a story like Tommy Ziegler would be cool. Watching 20-30 minutes on Resurrection Mary, the Fertility Statues, the Magic Rock, et. al. will turn many viewers off. You could lump most Lost Loves stories in the latter category as well.

I would have to think we won't get the worst of the Lost Loves. Just like how the 3-4 segments, "special alerts", the telecenter, etc were a product of the media culture of their time, I think those were too.

isotope
01-23-2019, 08:44 PM
I would have to think we won't get the worst of the Lost Loves. Just like how the 3-4 segments, "special alerts", the telecenter, etc were a product of the media culture of their time, I think those were too.

I just don't see how a "Lost Loves" segment is really credible or compelling in the age of social media. I never really liked these segments, although I can see why UM had them (appeals to a wider demographic, offered a respite from all the stories of murders and abductions, and more often than not, had a happy ending) - but its very difficult to believe that its completely impossible to track someone down these days - unless they actively don't want to be found.

cordwainer1453
01-23-2019, 10:49 PM
As the old saying goes, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

That is by the way, NOT the definition of insanity. Just some junk that get repeated in the internet. Einstein never said it either.

Todd Mueller
01-23-2019, 11:32 PM
That is by the way, NOT the definition of insanity. Just some junk that get repeated in the internet. Einstein never said it either.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/716dbIAuvYL._SX679_.jpg

Kane
01-24-2019, 10:51 AM
That is by the way, NOT the definition of insanity. Just some junk that get repeated in the internet. Einstein never said it either.

That's funny. I didn't even mention Einstein. Even if he never said it, that doesn't mean variations of the alleged quote were never uttered. In fact, a pamphlet that was published by Narcotics Anonymous in 1981 includes the following words: "Insanity is repeating the same mistakes and expecting different results."

tarheelslim
01-24-2019, 11:18 AM
One of the earliest stories on the reboot mentioned the types of segments that will be included in the new show and Lost Loves was in there.

I haven't been able to figure out if that list was just copied from the original series by the writer of the article or if it came from Netflix/Cosgrove.

Todd Mueller
01-24-2019, 03:11 PM
One of the earliest stories on the reboot mentioned the types of segments that will be included in the new show and Lost Loves was in there.

I haven't been able to figure out if that list was just copied from the original series by the writer of the article or if it came from Netflix/Cosgrove.

Some of the "Lost Loves" were cool, like the kid who met the soldiers during WW II. But I agree with previous posters that most of the standard Lost Loves (looking for adoptive parents, siblings, etc.) is almost moot in the internet age. They certainly are a lot less compelling and I doubt they could fill 20-30 minutes worth of story (absent extraordinary circumstances).

alistaircranium
01-26-2019, 10:51 AM
There will probably only be one Lost Loves episode in the season, and I'm sure it'll be a doozy. It'll be something that can't easily be solved with social media.

Guardian
02-02-2019, 09:29 PM
I can’t see there being much in the way of lost loves.

One thing I have to say I am happy about the more I think of it is the single segment per show. The reason I say this is because so many documentary shows being made in the last 10 years or so that have more than 1 segment per show (not even talking mystery shows in particular, just documentaries in general), have the absolute most annoying approach. They constantly jump back and forth from case to case. So you get a few minutes of the first story, then the first few minutes of the next story. They then go back to the first story, then second, first and so on. Absolutely the most annoying presentation of a story I have seen.

So with a revival of Unsolved Mysteries, I could see them going this route if it were multiple segments per episode, just because that is a current trend. So for me that is one saving grace for the single segment format.

drew790
02-03-2019, 02:29 AM
The more I think about it the more I'm happy about it as well.

I look at threads on this board, like Chaim Weiss as an easy example, and there's enough stuff to fill a 6 part documentary and it's crammed into 12 minutes. We'll get to have better information and a more complete narrative.

MA
02-03-2019, 06:31 AM
No news on a host yet?

SitcomsHeydayfan
03-13-2019, 01:16 AM
Details please? :wave:

One problem is this new UM won't have the audience UM had on NBC.

Guardian
03-13-2019, 02:55 AM
Details please? :wave:

One problem is this new UM won't have the audience UM had on NBC.

Latest they have said is “sometime in 2019”. So my guess is probably some time in the fall.

As far as the viewer numbers, don’t underestimate Netflix. In 2018, it had over 148 million subscriptions worldwide. Of course not every single one will be tuning in to every show, but crime documentaries are insanely popular on Netflix. If they give it enough hype, it will likely do better than on NBC. At least in my opinion.

Streaming is really the future of TV. While everyone may not agree with this, that is just how it is. Not to say cable is going away though. Cable will have its place for a while. Personally, my belief is cable as we know it now will be going away as it will likely become a hybrid of sorts with services like Netflix. But even that will be a few years down the road.

alistaircranium
03-13-2019, 08:43 AM
It's a safe bet that it will premiere in October as a tie-in to Halloween.

And you're right. UM on Netflix will have a bigger audience than it did on NBC.

MA
03-13-2019, 09:53 AM
Have they announced the host yet?

Kane
03-13-2019, 11:30 AM
Have they announced the host yet?

No. Based on the lack of reports on the matter, they probably haven't even made a hiring decision yet. If they have anyone specific in mind, they're not saying. When they finalize their decision, it will be officially announced.

SitcomsHeydayfan
03-13-2019, 07:16 PM
It's a safe bet that it will premiere in October as a tie-in to Halloween.

And you're right. UM on Netflix will have a bigger audience than it did on NBC.

That's impossible. On NBC you had to just turn on your TV. Millions don't even have Netflix and even of those who do only a small percentage will watch UM.

There are 120 million U.S. TV households in the U.S. The latest figures on the news said about HALF of homes get Netflix. Out of those that do get Netflix maybe 5% will watch UM?

Remember UM has a cult following on here but almost nobody in the public remembers it anymore. So there is NO way Netflix has the reach NBC had!

Chichester Crowe
03-13-2019, 07:46 PM
That's impossible. On NBC you had to just turn on your TV. Millions don't even have Netflix and even of those who do only a small percentage will watch UM.

There are 120 million U.S. TV households in the U.S. The latest figures on the news said about HALF of homes get Netflix. Out of those that do get Netflix maybe 5% will watch UM?

Remember UM has a cult following on here but almost nobody in the public remembers it anymore. So there is NO way Netflix has the reach NBC had!

Just some quick math based on UM Nielson ratings and the above estimate of 148M Netflix subscriptions:
To reach the high-watermark of UM viewership, 11.2% (16.6M) of Netflix subscribers would have to watch it. To match the low point of UM viewership, 6% (8.6M) of Netflix subscribers would have to watch it.

Unsolved Mysteries (the '19 reboot) is being produced by the folks behind Stranger Things, which is a cultural behemoth that commands the attention of a large swath of Netflix subscribers (I'm guessing much more than 12% of subscribers).

I'm also a believer that UM shifting their time slot from Wednesday nights to Friday nights significantly reduced viewership. With Netflix, you could just watch whenever you feel, "you do you".

I'm also guessing that Film Rise's upload of the entire series to the "forbidden site" will significantly boost interest as well.

SitcomsHeydayfan
03-16-2019, 01:44 AM
I'm also guessing that Film Rise's upload of the entire series to the "forbidden site" will significantly boost interest as well.

Who is that & what's the site please? You can PM me if you like. :wave:

drew790
03-16-2019, 09:52 AM
All of the big hits people are talking about are not coming from network television. It's not 1987 anymore.

SitcomsHeydayfan
03-16-2019, 11:25 AM
All of the big hits people are talking about are not coming from network television. It's not 1987 anymore.

But you had shows getting a larger slice of the TV audience back then because now you have a zillion more options & distractions.

Not only was there no smartphones, tablets, or streaming in 1987 there wasn't even an internet yet! Quote a lot of people didn't even have a home computer either!

Chichester Crowe
03-16-2019, 12:23 PM
Who is that & what's the site please? You can PM me if you like. :wave:

Youtube. I just like calling it the "forbidden site" as that is what it was referred to as on this forum for many years.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzirOgADPOz0eapgwBcX9Gw/featured

alistaircranium
03-16-2019, 03:33 PM
That's impossible. On NBC you had to just turn on your TV. Millions don't even have Netflix and even of those who do only a small percentage will watch UM.

There are 120 million U.S. TV households in the U.S. The latest figures on the news said about HALF of homes get Netflix. Out of those that do get Netflix maybe 5% will watch UM?

Remember UM has a cult following on here but almost nobody in the public remembers it anymore. So there is NO way Netflix has the reach NBC had!

Netflix has 140 million subscribers.

alistaircranium
03-16-2019, 03:35 PM
All of the big hits people are talking about are not coming from network television. It's not 1987 anymore.

Thank you. I find it hysterical when people think broadcast television is still huge. I'm guessing these people are senior citizens who have recently been shown how to use the internet by their grandchildren.

Welcome to 2019, people! Wake up and face reality!

SitcomsHeydayfan
03-16-2019, 06:46 PM
Netflix has 140 million subscribers.

Netflix has 60 million U.S. subscribers so only half as much as TV homes in the USA.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/250937/quarterly-number-of-netflix-streaming-subscribers-in-the-us/

SitcomsHeydayfan
03-16-2019, 06:49 PM
Youtube. I just like calling it the "forbidden site" as that is what it was referred to as on this forum for many years.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzirOgADPOz0eapgwBcX9Gw/featured

LOL..I thought you were talking about the Dark web or some illegal site! :lol:

drew790
03-16-2019, 08:07 PM
But you had shows getting a larger slice of the TV audience back then because now you have a zillion more options & distractions.

Not only was there no smartphones, tablets, or streaming in 1987 there wasn't even an internet yet! Quote a lot of people didn't even have a home computer either!

I remember, I was there.

What's your point though? That's the model we're operating in now, the model the new show will debut to. Netflix has 150 million household subscribers worldwide, the show will be debuting worldwide not just on a single broadcast network in a single country. Netflix is more integrated into modern smart televisions than cable or satellite services, to say nothing of the litany of stick/box devices people own for the same purposes.

If broadcast television is the end all and be all why did NBC cancel the show in 97? They didn't have any of the distractions you mention then.

alistaircranium
03-16-2019, 09:08 PM
Netflix has 60 million U.S. subscribers so only half as much as TV homes in the USA.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/250937/quarterly-number-of-netflix-streaming-subscribers-in-the-us/

I know this may come as a bit of a shock to you, but there are actually hundreds of countries on this planet. It's not just the United States. Mind blowing!!!!!

sdb4884
03-17-2019, 08:24 AM
Maybe there won't be an official host just a voice over guy or something like that?

Kane
03-17-2019, 11:19 AM
Maybe there won't be an official host just a voice over guy or something like that?

There would have to be an official host. The lack of one would be pointless. Besides, the physical presence of the host is just as essential to UM as the vocal presence. It adds substance to the show. I would think that the producers would want a permanent host, not a hired gun or anything of that nature.

Guardian
03-17-2019, 11:59 PM
I was not implying that network television is not without its audience, it still has a heavy following. But look at the trends, more and more ambitious series are being produced and are surviving in a streaming only format. It is a much more accurate way for companies to find their demographic as well. They can track what is watched in each household. Not like through Nielsen ratings which is only statistical.

The 148 million subscribers I referred to was world wide. Not just the US.

People do still remember Unsolved Mysteries, and those I have talked to are actually quite excited it is coming back. I’ll admit that currently most are unaware that it is coming back, but once official ads start popping up, believe me, even casual viewers will know it is coming.

I still watch cable tv myself, but less and less as streaming platforms expand. Personally, I think we will see more of a streaming/cable hybrid in years to come. You will likely pay for internet through a cable provider like Comcast. That provider will provide direct access to streaming sites such as Amazon and Netflix as part of the package you purchase through them. That’s my thought on how it will go. But like it or not, cable tv as we know it today will not last more than a few more decades at the most. And that is being optimistic about it.

To each their own of course. I am not trying to attack or insult anyone that watches cable tv, but look at it this way: when was the last time someone turned on an AM radio to listen to a radio drama? Yeah right? While radio dramas are still produced (in much lesser quantities than in the past) those that still exist have adapted to a new platform: the internet. Television will follow in the same manner. I still have a vcr, but rarely use it over my dvd/Blu-ray player and streaming. But even dvd and Blu-ray are starting to wind down. Go to a store and tell me if they have the same amount of physical media they used to carry. Like I said, not to attack anyone, but it is the reality of it. The tech adapts and/or eventually goes away.

SitcomsHeydayfan
03-18-2019, 12:19 AM
I remember, I was there.

What's your point though? That's the model we're operating in now, the model the new show will debut to. Netflix has 150 million household subscribers worldwide, the show will be debuting worldwide not just on a single broadcast network in a single country. Netflix is more integrated into modern smart televisions than cable or satellite services, to say nothing of the litany of stick/box devices people own for the same purposes.

If broadcast television is the end all and be all why did NBC cancel the show in 97? They didn't have any of the distractions you mention then.

How is a worldwide audience going to help find a missing person or solved an unsolved murder in Kokomo, IN or Sedalia, MO??

UM was always designed for American audiences.

SitcomsHeydayfan
03-18-2019, 12:19 AM
I know this may come as a bit of a shock to you, but there are actually hundreds of countries on this planet. It's not just the United States. Mind blowing!!!!!

See my post directly above. :wave:

Thiussat
03-18-2019, 03:14 AM
Excellent news. I hope Netflix is able to Make UM Great Again. The fact the "Stranger Things" crew is involved is encouraging news.

Chichester Crowe
03-18-2019, 11:27 AM
How is a worldwide audience going to help find a missing person or solved an unsolved murder in Kokomo, IN or Sedalia, MO??

UM was always designed for American audiences.

While UM was designed for American television, it doesn't preclude international audiences. British nationals watched the program and criminals have been apprehended in nations as far away as India.

The unspoken premise here is that Netflix's True Crime Thriller programming only appeals to American audiences. I'm going to presume that's false.

alistaircranium
03-18-2019, 12:24 PM
The unspoken premise here is that Netflix's True Crime Thriller programming only appeals to American audiences. I'm going to presume that's false.

THANK YOU! I'm glad you said it. It's hard to keep my cool when dealing with arrogant, delusional Americans who think their country is the centre of the universe.

Guardian
03-18-2019, 12:50 PM
With more world wide viewers, it opens up the possibility of having Mysteries from other countries as well. There are a lot of weird unsolved cases out there from all over the world. No reason not to include those as well

drew790
03-18-2019, 01:26 PM
Excellent news. I hope Netflix is able to Make UM Great Again.

:drink:

drew790
03-18-2019, 01:27 PM
How is a worldwide audience going to help find a missing person or solved an unsolved murder in Kokomo, IN or Sedalia, MO??

UM was always designed for American audiences.

Ask Joe Sheppard.

Thiussat
03-18-2019, 03:14 PM
THANK YOU! I'm glad you said it. It's hard to keep my cool when dealing with arrogant, delusional Americans who think their country is the centre of the universe.

Please don't judge us all that way.

As a yank myself, I welcome our UK/Aussie/SA/Scandinavian and other English speaking brothers. Everyone else is welcome too, although because I am a lazy American, they will have to speak English since I cannot speak their language.

I would be perfectly fine with a new UM show covering foreign mysteries, especially those from English speaking nations. I say that because I can culturally relate to places like the UK since we're not that far removed from them. I would have a harder time relating to, say, a mystery in India or Mongolia. (I am speaking strictly of true crime mysteries).

I guess I could enjoy mysteries from France or Germany. They are culturally close to us, but there is that language barrier (French are much like us Yanks and think the world revolves around them. They only know French and aren't keen on learning English especially).

The original UM did cover a few foreign mysteries, but they were mainly in the supernatural/UFO/Nazi gold/lost treasure realm. I would enjoy some good true crime stories from abroad as well. I know there's some good ones out there worthy of coverage.

Guardian
03-18-2019, 05:57 PM
I think it could work. Of course with the show produced here, logically most Mysteries will still be based within the US, but I think with the combination of the host giving narration and the use of translators (just like in the few segments in non English speaking countries in the past), it would be a nice fit.

Kicksave1980
03-18-2019, 06:42 PM
I know this may come as a bit of a shock to you, but there are actually hundreds of countries on this planet. It's not just the United States. Mind blowing!!!!!

I'm not sure, but I think that the point trying to be made is that while Netflix does have a worldwide footprint, their selection varies greatly by country and not all programming is available from one location to the other. Not everything is available everywhere. Of course, if they have announced that UM will be worldwide on Netflix, disregard.

This is why I use a VPN to access content that's only available in the Canadian or Euro netflix markets, and I know that a lot of people in other places do the same to specifically access the US version of the platform because the selection is typically larger than anywhere else in the world. Different, but larger.

drew790
03-18-2019, 10:05 PM
When Netflix produces & owns it, it's everywhere.

Kicksave1980
03-18-2019, 10:12 PM
When Netflix produces & owns it, it's everywhere.

Thanks, I hadn’t considered that. Makes sense.

tarheelslim
03-19-2019, 10:50 AM
When Netflix produces & owns it, it's everywhere.

I think that is generally true but there may be exceptions. If they don't have subtitles for a country's language I don't know if they include it in that country.

I watch a Netflix-produced Japanese reality show and it is available every week or 2 in Japan, but its released in batches every few months to the rest of the world.

tarheelslim
03-19-2019, 10:59 AM
A lot of times with a new show Netflix does not release info in advance. We may not even know who the host is until its released. I don't know if they have release dates ahead of time for everything either.

I thought I'd read that they were starting production in Feb or March but I can't find that now.

drew790
03-19-2019, 11:56 AM
A lot of times with a new show Netflix does not release info in advance. We may not even know who the host is until its released. I don't know if they have release dates ahead of time for everything either.

I thought I'd read that they were starting production in Feb or March but I can't find that now.

This is also true. We generally get little in way of casting announcements for new shows until we get a trailer a month ahead. We get more for returning shows and Unsolved Mysteries because of its following and history kind of falls in between the two. (New show, established fan base). I'd expect to get a host announcement but it may not come until when we get a trailer. The nature of the show also allows them to hire a host much later into the production cycle than the segment filming.

Netflix does a good job promoting its originals within their app, and on social media. When it launches it will be front and center to entice viewership.

I also think the fan base is being downplayed by some people in this thread. Just because they haven't been active on SO, Reddit, had access to the various bootlegs for the last 15 years does not mean there aren't fans of the show. So many from my personal circle of friends are rediscovering the show now that they have access to it once again from Prime and even more now from the free streaming on things like Youtube and Tubi. If the numbers coming from Prime and the other streaming outlets ahead of the series commission weren't favorable it wouldn't be happening.

IMSONNYBURNETT
03-19-2019, 01:41 PM
In today's PC America, they'll have to find a host that won't offend the Snowflakes and appeases every single minority. I'm thinking Kaitlyn Jenner maybe?

Kicksave1980
03-19-2019, 02:09 PM
In today's PC America, they'll have to find a host that won't offend the Snowflakes and appeases every single minority. I'm thinking Kaitlyn Jenner maybe?


Glad to see that the art of irony is still alive and well.

Fletch
03-19-2019, 05:03 PM
Liev Schreiber would be my dream pick to take on hosting duties for the new UM. Great actor not to mention an amazing voice for narrating. It's no wonder he's one of the most sought after voice talents in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2Qpwo8Utis&t=23s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8uggvSFsl0

Kicksave1980
03-19-2019, 07:52 PM
Liev Schreiber would be my dream pick to take on hosting duties for the new UM. Great actor not to mention an amazing voice for narrating. It's no wonder he's one of the most sought after voice talents in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2Qpwo8Utis&t=23s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8uggvSFsl0

He would be a fantastic choice. I love his voice work on the many sports shows that he has done. And of course, his role in Goon.

Fletch
03-19-2019, 08:58 PM
He would be a fantastic choice. I love his voice work on the many sports shows that he has done. And of course, his role in Goon.

Haha... I didn’t want to sound biased since he does a ton of stuff for the NHL (30 year ice hockey player here :D).

Kicksave1980
03-19-2019, 09:00 PM
Haha... I didn’t want to sound biased since he does a ton of stuff for the NHL (30 year ice hockey player here :D).

See my username ;)

And I agree. His NHL stuff is top notch!

Fletch
03-19-2019, 09:31 PM
See my username ;)

And I agree. His NHL stuff is top notch!

:cheers:

Chichester Crowe
03-20-2019, 05:36 PM
This is also true. We generally get little in way of casting announcements for new shows until we get a trailer a month ahead. We get more for returning shows and Unsolved Mysteries because of its following and history kind of falls in between the two. (New show, established fan base). I'd expect to get a host announcement but it may not come until when we get a trailer. The nature of the show also allows them to hire a host much later into the production cycle than the segment filming.

Netflix does a good job promoting its originals within their app, and on social media. When it launches it will be front and center to entice viewership.

I also think the fan base is being downplayed by some people in this thread. Just because they haven't been active on SO, Reddit, had access to the various bootlegs for the last 15 years does not mean there aren't fans of the show. So many from my personal circle of friends are rediscovering the show now that they have access to it once again from Prime and even more now from the free streaming on things like Youtube and Tubi. If the numbers coming from Prime and the other streaming outlets ahead of the series commission weren't favorable it wouldn't be happening.

Just read all of the comments and views so far on YT...clearly people are loving it.

Hot Jock
03-20-2019, 05:52 PM
In today's PC America, they'll have to find a host that won't offend the Snowflakes and appeases every single minority. I'm thinking Kaitlyn Jenner maybe?

https://media.giphy.com/media/K0AnEB2t2EM/giphy.gif

Chichester Crowe
03-20-2019, 06:22 PM
:rotflmao: Yup.

I think I've already said this, but Jeremy Irons would be my pick for host.

Hot Jock
03-20-2019, 06:25 PM
Dennis Haysbert would be my top choice. Tall, imposing figure with an authoritative voice. 👍

RaidenKhan
03-21-2019, 02:56 AM
Dennis Haysbert would be my top choice. Tall, imposing figure with an authoritative voice. 👍

Love this idea.

Cheers,
Matt

Fletch
03-21-2019, 01:59 PM
Dennis Haysbert would be my top choice. Tall, imposing figure with an authoritative voice. 👍

Another solid choice for sure.

Jefffr0mJax
03-31-2019, 08:58 PM
Dennis Haysbert would be my top choice. Tall, imposing figure with an authoritative voice. 👍

That would be tremendous.

DP1
04-01-2019, 10:10 AM
Another vote for Dennis Haybert. He would be a great choice and his voice and presence would be perfect.

Chichester Crowe
05-18-2019, 09:28 PM
According to this the pilot has been filmed.

http://www.jimgoldblum.com/unsolved-mysteries/

GDAWG
05-18-2019, 11:20 PM
Hopefully, the new host is on location like Stack and not in a call center like Farina.

sdb4884
05-19-2019, 12:17 AM
Hopefully, the new host is on location like Stack and not in a call center like Farina.

Yes and no lazy Google Earth graphics or Star Trek control room either :lol:

tlc38tlc38
05-19-2019, 08:37 AM
I wonder how many “filler” segments they’ll do like the aphrodisiac, fertility statues, etc...

At this point, they could do an entire series of episodes just based on the Clintons.

SitcomsHeydayfan
05-19-2019, 10:04 AM
According to this the pilot has been filmed.

http://www.jimgoldblum.com/unsolved-mysteries/

Only 10 episodes??

It didn't say who the new host is so who is the new host?

Fletch
05-20-2019, 01:32 AM
I hope they don’t bother with Lost Loves, The Unexplained, etc. There’s enough shows dedicated to UFO’s, ghosts, etc. and the majority of lost love cases can be solved via the internet (in my opinion). I’d love to see the show focus on wanted, unexplained death and missing persons cases.

Chichester Crowe
05-20-2019, 11:01 AM
I hope they don’t bother with Lost Loves, The Unexplained, etc. There’s enough shows dedicated to UFO’s, ghosts, etc. and the majority of lost love cases can be solved via the internet (in my opinion). I’d love to see the show focus on wanted, unexplained death and missing persons cases.

Without supernatural or lost love segments, it ceases to be UM.
UM was primarily a public service platform married to horror/sci-fi theater.

I've heard the anti-supernatural sentiment, and frankly I can't understand it.
Scientists can't even explain the fundamental nature of consciousness....and the jury is still out on ghosts and UAPs (they're not called UFOs anymore).

Also, not everyone watching UM is an adult. Some are 7-8 years old, like I was when I first watched the program. It's true that my tastes have changed, and I now prefer the true crime segments, but when I was a child, the ghosts, aliens, and lost treasures were what captivated me. (Oddly enough I hated Lost Loves as a kid but am very fond of these segments today). I still think that the Halloween episode is one of the best UM episodes ever.

Based on the show-runners pedigree (Stranger Things) I imagine that the show will be a pastiche, like Star Wars or Quentin Tarantino's movies...somehow capturing the uncertainty of the analog age in a new package/aesthetic.

drew790
05-20-2019, 11:19 AM
Without supernatural or lost love segments, it ceases to be UM.
UM was primarily a public service platform married to horror/sci-fi theater.

I've heard the anti-supernatural sentiment, and frankly I can't understand it.
Scientists can't even explain the fundamental nature of consciousness....and the jury is still out on ghosts and UAPs (they're not called UFOs anymore).

Also, not everyone watching UM is an adult. Some are 7-8 years old, like I was when I first watched the program. It's true that my tastes have changed, and I now prefer the true crime segments, but when I was a child, the ghosts, aliens, and lost treasures were what captivated me. (Oddly enough I hated Lost Loves as a kid but am very fond of these segments today). I still think that the Halloween episode is one of the best UM episodes ever.

Based on the show-runners pedigree (Stranger Things) I imagine that the show will be a pastiche, like Star Wars or Quentin Tarantino's movies...somehow capturing the uncertainty of the analog age in a new package/aesthetic.


So agree. Unsolved Mysteries isn't Unsolved Mysteries without the supernatural and unexplained. Now, lost loves? That can go kick rocks unless they can come up with some really good period pieces.

Fletch
05-20-2019, 07:09 PM
I dunno... I just tend to want to see murderers brought to justice and missing persons found more than focus on seeing segments on things that will never be solved or cannot be solved. I guess that’s what I get for coming from a law enforcement family :)

drew790
05-20-2019, 08:48 PM
Welp, I guess those of us that enjoy a paranormal story want to see murderers go free. What a loaded statement...

Fletch
05-20-2019, 10:25 PM
Welp, I guess those of us that enjoy a paranormal story want to see murderers go free. What a loaded statement...

Not what I was implying whatsoever. It’s a matter of personal preference in regards to which segments I find the most interesting. Nothing more :)

isotope
05-20-2019, 10:55 PM
Only 10 episodes??




Netflix are testing the water (same way NBC did back in 1987 with a few specials). If enough customers stream it, they'll commission a second series in no time. Netflix cannot get enough successful original content.

tarheelslim
05-21-2019, 10:16 AM
Netflix are testing the water (same way NBC did back in 1987 with a few specials). If enough customers stream it, they'll commission a second series in no time. Netflix cannot get enough successful original content.

Unfortunately with the streaming series, they are usually not more than 10 eps at a time and it usually seems to take more than a year to get a new season.

Hopefully the production on this will be more straightforward and it won't take forever to get more eps.

DK2
05-21-2019, 08:07 PM
I'm just glad the series is coming back at all. Hopefully with a good host. I personally wouldn't mind Virginia Madsen coming back. Shes older now and face it shes the only one among the original hosts whose still around. It would give ties to the old series. I personally had no issues with Dennis Farina. If the show on Spike was allowed to have done new cases/stories then it would've been better. But he did a good job with how that repackaged series ended up looking. I too am wondering about the amount of episodes after that production person stated 10 but the Netflix press announcement said 12. And its a fact Netflix's hour long shows only get 10 shows a season. But I'm wondering if UM will be at 12 shows? I mean I remember UM producers saying in old interviews how they got the show made by NBC was that it was really cheap to make. Could that still be the case now and they will have 12 shows instead of 10?
I must put in my thoughts too that the series must explore all areas of subject matter that it did before. I mean its called Unsolved Mysteries. If it only covers crime than it shouldn't be called UM, right? Its all the topics that gives the show its uniqueness and entertainment value.

Fletch
05-21-2019, 11:03 PM
Deep down I don’t care what they do as long as they don’t butcher the legacy of the original theme ;)

Garfunkel'sGhost
05-22-2019, 07:28 AM
I am excited for the new UM. That being said, I have to remind myself that no one could be as good as Stack. Whoever they get has some very large shoes to fill.

Chichester Crowe
05-22-2019, 09:04 AM
I dunno... I just tend to want to see murderers brought to justice and missing persons found more than focus on seeing segments on things that will never be solved or cannot be solved. I guess that’s what I get for coming from a law enforcement family :)

To be fair, the show is about "unsolved" mysteries, but I see your point.

Mathematically speaking, UM had a greater success rate with Lost Loves than with Wanted Fugitives.

Also, I wouldn't mind if they interviewed Michael Shermer or others like him during the paranormal segments. Bunk is bunk. Watch one season of In Search Of.... to see what badly done paranormal TV looks like decades later. Don't get me wrong, it's entertaining, but listening to Leonard Nimoy tell us that killer bees will over-take North America by 1990 is laughable in hindsight.

I've pointed this out elsewhere, but UM didn't "Jump the Shark" like other TV shows. The decline in quality of supernatural segments correlates with the progressive slide in ratings and eventual NBC cancellation. Correlation isn't causation, however. This also coincides with the inclusion of high-profile media crimes like Jon Benet Ramsey, Tupac Shakur, and Kurt Cobain.

I think it can be fairly assessed that Meurer-Cosgrove were not very invested in the supernatural segments as the show waned. That or they felt serious competition from Cops and America's Most Wanted, which both proved to have greater longevity than UM.

dynoguy88
05-22-2019, 11:06 AM
I just hope they do away with the notion that viewers don't have big enough attention spans to see what SHOULD be a fully fledged segment. You cannot cram enough information, regardless of the subject matter, in to a 4 minute segment like the Farina version of the show often did. As a child AND as an adult, I'm drawn to UM because they presented their segments in a story like format.

Mike82
05-22-2019, 02:38 PM
I've pointed this out elsewhere, but UM didn't "Jump the Shark" like other TV shows. The decline in quality of supernatural segments correlates with the progressive slide in ratings and eventual NBC cancellation. Correlation isn't causation, however. This also coincides with the inclusion of high-profile media crimes like Jon Benet Ramsey, Tupac Shakur, and Kurt Cobain.

I would argue that having those cheap celebrity cash-ins are by definition jumping the shark. One of the things I loved about UM was that it was about real people (not goofy over-the-top stereotypes like in "reality" TV) and they took the time for us to really get to know them in just a few minutes.

It may have faded away on its own but these ridiculous segments certainly accelerated UM's demise. In fact, it was so rarely aired here in Nova Scotia by the end that I was shocked to find a never before seen episode after Sept 11, 2001: prior to that, there might have been one episode a month if I was lucky.

Kane
05-23-2019, 11:13 AM
I think it can be fairly assessed that Meurer-Cosgrove were not very invested in the supernatural segments as the show waned. That or they felt serious competition from Cops and America's Most Wanted, which both proved to have greater longevity than UM.

I suspect it had more to do with competition than with not being as invested in the supernatural cases as before. It's no secret that there was competition between UM and America's Most Wanted, especially in terms of success in getting cases resolved. UM has helped close literally hundreds of cases (the number is now probably past 400), while AMW brought about the capture of over 1,200 fugitives over the course of its 24-year run. Even if UM were to stick to only criminal cases, it would still have a very long way in topping AMW in the number of captured fugitives.

In any case, the variety of stories was one of the best things about UM. In fact, series producer Stuart Schwartz considered it one of the show's strengths.

Todd Mueller
05-23-2019, 06:13 PM
In any case, the variety of stories was one of the best things about UM. In fact, series producer Stuart Schwartz considered it one of the show's strengths.

I loved the variety, before it got silly. I always thought some of the supernatural stuff was really cool. The Kecksburg UFO is one of my favorite segments. But as we've discussed before, the cool/fascinating turned into the dumb and laughable. If they choose to do truly interesting supernatural stories, I'm all for it. At this point I can't believe they would risk the future of the new show by doing a whole episode on fertility statues or the sexual magic of chocolate... :lol:

Chichester Crowe
05-23-2019, 06:38 PM
I would argue that having those cheap celebrity cash-ins are by definition jumping the shark. One of the things I loved about UM was that it was about real people (not goofy over-the-top stereotypes like in "reality" TV) and they took the time for us to really get to know them in just a few minutes.

It may have faded away on its own but these ridiculous segments certainly accelerated UM's demise. In fact, it was so rarely aired here in Nova Scotia by the end that I was shocked to find a never before seen episode after Sept 11, 2001: prior to that, there might have been one episode a month if I was lucky.

Just to be clear, I do believe UM "Jumped the Shark', they just did it differently than most programs, and it's really only noticed in the supernatural and high-profile case segments. The majority of the true crime segments continued to be good right up until NBC cancelled them.

drew790
05-23-2019, 08:08 PM
I loved the variety, before it got silly. I always thought some of the supernatural stuff was really cool. The Kecksburg UFO is one of my favorite segments. But as we've discussed before, the cool/fascinating turned into the dumb and laughable. If they choose to do truly interesting supernatural stories, I'm all for it. At this point I can't believe they would risk the future of the new show by doing a whole episode on fertility statues or the sexual magic of chocolate... :lol:

Right? :lol:

The supernatural and the legends were what made this show what it was, it contributed to that intangible quality it had to scare the ever-loving crap out of you.

If they were to do an episode of the quality of say the Victorio Peak treasure mystery, I'd be all in. If they spent 40 minutes on a rock with the power to grant strip mall success I'll lead an armed rebellion.

Fletch
05-23-2019, 09:25 PM
If they spent 40 minutes on a rock with the power to grant strip mall success I'll lead an armed rebellion.

:lol:

GDAWG
05-24-2019, 02:12 AM
So are they revisiting old cases or doing new ones?

Fletch
05-25-2019, 12:17 AM
So are they revisiting old cases or doing new ones?

That’s an unsolved mystery.

Jon
05-25-2019, 10:42 AM
That’s an unsolved mystery.

Someone, somewhere knows the truth.

Fletch
05-26-2019, 01:14 AM
Someone, somewhere knows the truth.

Perhaps it’s the head of programming at Netflix... perhaps it’s you.

Guardian
05-29-2019, 07:03 PM
So are they revisiting old cases or doing new ones?

As I understand the announcement, it will be all new cases. The main change seems to be that each episode will be 1 case rather than multiple cases. So think Forensic Files (without the crime being solved of course), or Disappeared.

I am curious as to if they would update any old cases that are solved. I’m meaning like, okay Dale Kerstetter is still missing, but let’s say the new UM premieres with all new cases. Then sometime after the premiere, the Kerstetter case is solved. Will they film an update for season 2 of the new series?

The single case format could prohibit this, but then they could also include updates as bonus episodes at the end of a season I guess.

Labonte18
05-30-2019, 04:00 PM
As I understand the announcement, it will be all new cases. The main change seems to be that each episode will be 1 case rather than multiple cases. So think Forensic Files (without the crime being solved of course), or Disappeared.

I am curious as to if they would update any old cases that are solved. I’m meaning like, okay Dale Kerstetter is still missing, but let’s say the new UM premieres with all new cases. Then sometime after the premiere, the Kerstetter case is solved. Will they film an update for season 2 of the new series?

The single case format could prohibit this, but then they could also include updates as bonus episodes at the end of a season I guess.


I think they'd be smart to do that. But it all depends on whether the new producers want this to be a totally new show or not. I think that would be a bad move if they ignored the previous version as it may alienate some of the fans.

Hasho
06-02-2019, 09:02 AM
I hope they bring back the creepy locations where the host is standing and the fog.

jbjr56
06-03-2019, 12:41 AM
I think they'd be smart to do that. But it all depends on whether the new producers want this to be a totally new show or not. I think that would be a bad move if they ignored the previous version as it may alienate some of the fans.

Well the premiere can’t get here fast enough! Just rolled through all the seasons on Prime again. I Hope they can find a way to reserve 5 minutes to old cases should they be solved. Maybe they can title it from the Archives of Unsolved Mysteries. Might have to some quick editing of any present cases they are doing.

GDAWG
06-04-2019, 01:37 AM
As I understand the announcement, it will be all new cases. The main change seems to be that each episode will be 1 case rather than multiple cases. So think Forensic Files (without the crime being solved of course), or Disappeared.

I am curious as to if they would update any old cases that are solved. I’m meaning like, okay Dale Kerstetter is still missing, but let’s say the new UM premieres with all new cases. Then sometime after the premiere, the Kerstetter case is solved. Will they film an update for season 2 of the new series?

The single case format could prohibit this, but then they could also include updates as bonus episodes at the end of a season I guess.

I would like to see them do bonus episodes where a lot of the cases featured on Unsolved Mysteries that were unsolved at the time of airing were later solved other than a quick update blurb. One episode could be dedicated to the East Area Rapist. Another could be about the murders of Jay Cook and Tanya Van Cuylenborg.

JenniferS.
06-14-2019, 11:54 PM
https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2019/01/222116/netflix-reboot-unsolved-mysteries

What do you all think of this?

Todd Mueller
06-15-2019, 09:22 AM
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=380421

bell83
06-15-2019, 11:55 AM
https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2019/01/222116/netflix-reboot-unsolved-mysteries

What do you all think of this?

At first I was like
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/024/725/disgusted.jpg

But reading it had me all
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/934939171361132585/B9376B13A1959C41A7B29D383345002100D032F2/?imw=637&imh=358&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=true

Tap Dancer
06-15-2019, 01:00 PM
I'm not interested. I want fresh, "new" mysteries.

bell83
06-15-2019, 01:39 PM
I'm not interested. I want fresh, "new" mysteries.

That's what they're doing, though isn't it? Or did I misunderstand?

TheCars1986
06-17-2019, 07:46 AM
That's what they're doing, though isn't it? Or did I misunderstand?

My understanding is these will be new cases featured, although I think it will only be one case per episode.

bell83
06-17-2019, 10:02 AM
My understanding is these will be new cases featured, although I think it will only be one case per episode.

Yeah, that's what I had thought, and what had attracted my curiosity.

Kane
06-17-2019, 10:04 AM
My understanding is these will be new cases featured, although I think it will only be one case per episode.

You understand correctly. It will be new episodes. 12 episodes have been commissioned for Netflix, and each episode will consist of only one case, instead of the standard 3 or 4.

sdb4884
06-18-2019, 08:40 AM
You understand correctly. It will be new episodes. 12 episodes have been commissioned for Netflix, and each episode will consist of only one case, instead of the standard 3 or 4.

I'm disappointed by that.

MA
06-18-2019, 08:46 AM
Do we know who the host will be yet?

Kane
06-18-2019, 09:04 AM
Do we know who the host will be yet?

No. When a hiring decision is finalized, it will be announced on the show's official web site.

bell83
06-18-2019, 09:18 AM
I'm disappointed by that.

I think it might be a good thing. I'm cautiously optimistic. My concern is it basically would turn UM into every other crime show (Forensic Files, Disappeared, Justice Files, etc) but that MAY not be a bad thing. It would also give the ability to really explore the whole of the case and not cram it into a 12 minute segment.

Tap Dancer
06-21-2019, 06:36 PM
I'm sorry; I misunderstood before. I thought it was going to be the same old stories rehashed a third time. I'm glad they'll be giving us new cases, but I would prefer they stick to the format of multiple segments per episode.

GDAWG
06-21-2019, 11:36 PM
I think it might be a good thing. I'm cautiously optimistic. My concern is it basically would turn UM into every other crime show (Forensic Files, Disappeared, Justice Files, etc) but that MAY not be a bad thing. It would also give the ability to really explore the whole of the case and not cram it into a 12 minute segment.

This is true. Earlier this year, CBS 48 Hours explored the Jodi Huisentrut disappearance, and even mentioned potential suspects, which Unsolved Mysteries never talked about.

macbeth06
06-25-2019, 09:45 PM
No I want it on TV not behind some paywall for netflix

TJ
07-30-2019, 10:27 PM
The case of Lena Chapin, who vanished without a trace in Dent County, Missouri in 2006, will be one of the episodes featured in the upcoming Netflix series.

http://www.thesalemnewsonline.com/news/local_news/article_9acc794e-b2dd-11e9-acee-139d2f556b16.html

spiraleyes
07-30-2019, 10:41 PM
I wonder how this will be without Stack.

Labonte18
07-31-2019, 04:19 PM
I wonder how this will be without Stack.

A fair shade better than it would be with him.

He doesn't talk much now.

DP1
08-01-2019, 08:24 AM
Found some news on the new Unsolved Mysteries...

EDIT: My apologies, I see this article was already posted.

tarheelslim
08-01-2019, 11:19 AM
The case of Lena Chapin, who vanished without a trace in Dent County, Missouri in 2006, will be one of the episodes featured in the upcoming Netflix series.

http://www.thesalemnewsonline.com/news/local_news/article_9acc794e-b2dd-11e9-acee-139d2f556b16.html

The first crumb of info we've gotten in a while... interesting

Labonte18
08-01-2019, 02:50 PM
Know this is a bit OT here, but I hadn't heard about this, and I always considered UM and Rescue 911 to be 'complimentary' shows.

https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/rescue-911-reboot-series-1203015488/

UMfan0682
08-13-2019, 07:22 PM
I found an article from January 2019 featuring an interview with John Cosgrove. He stated the new show will not feature a host. I wonder if anything has changed since...

Here is the article:
https://www.channelnonfiction.com/interview-with-john-cosgrove-co-creator-of-unsolved-mysteries-series-a-show-headed-to-netflix/

tarheelslim
08-14-2019, 11:32 AM
I found an article from January 2019 featuring an interview with John Cosgrove. He stated the new show will not feature a host. I wonder if anything has changed since...

Here is the article:
https://www.channelnonfiction.com/interview-with-john-cosgrove-co-creator-of-unsolved-mysteries-series-a-show-headed-to-netflix/

"It’ll be very different and there’s no host and no narrator, so it will be pure documentary style."

I guess I can envision this and see how it could work.... clip of a family member talking cuts straight to a recreation of what may have happened, or an interview with LE.

Guardian
09-15-2019, 02:01 AM
I found an article from January 2019 featuring an interview with John Cosgrove. He stated the new show will not feature a host. I wonder if anything has changed since...

Here is the article:
https://www.channelnonfiction.com/interview-with-john-cosgrove-co-creator-of-unsolved-mysteries-series-a-show-headed-to-netflix/

Well, f#$% there goes any real interest I have in the new series. I can't stand how the newer shows are done either in all text or with some artsy camera angles introducing a survivor or family member telling the story. I'm sure I'll still watch it, but they are shooting themselves in the foot for trying to make it so contemporary.

Why do they think they are getting the numbers that they are on streaming services? BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE THE ORIGINAL FORMAT. If it isn't broke, don't fix it. Minor adjustments for a new era are to be expected, but Unsolved Mysteries without a host? Check please.

tarheelslim
09-16-2019, 03:42 PM
Well, f#$% there goes any real interest I have in the new series. I can't stand how the newer shows are done either in all text or with some artsy camera angles introducing a survivor or family member telling the story. I'm sure I'll still watch it, but they are shooting themselves in the foot for trying to make it so contemporary.

I assume the fact that the production company behind Stranger Things is involved means it will be self-consciously retro.

drew790
09-17-2019, 08:00 PM
The Stranger Things connection doesn't mean there's anything retro about Unsolved Mysteries. But "The producers behind Cheaper By The Dozen 2" or "The producers behind Night at the Museum" doesn't have the same curb appeal.

Todd Mueller
09-21-2019, 04:35 PM
Well, f#$% there goes any real interest I have in the new series. I can't stand how the newer shows are done either in all text or with some artsy camera angles introducing a survivor or family member telling the story. I'm sure I'll still watch it, but they are shooting themselves in the foot for trying to make it so contemporary.

Why do they think they are getting the numbers that they are on streaming services? BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE THE ORIGINAL FORMAT. If it isn't broke, don't fix it. Minor adjustments for a new era are to be expected, but Unsolved Mysteries without a host? Check please.

I agree and I was hoping for more of the original format -- creepy and with a host.

I have the feeling now that the new episodes will be similar to the new UM episodes they did for a while on YouTube (for example, Maura Murray). In those they have the surviving relatives/friends narrate the case as scenes are played. They aren't bad but they definitely don't have the same look and feel of classic UM. It's more of that story format which isn't bad but it is very different than what we all grew up with.

Chichester Crowe
09-22-2019, 11:44 AM
Well, f#$% there goes any real interest I have in the new series. I can't stand how the newer shows are done either in all text or with some artsy camera angles introducing a survivor or family member telling the story. I'm sure I'll still watch it, but they are shooting themselves in the foot for trying to make it so contemporary.

Why do they think they are getting the numbers that they are on streaming services? BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE THE ORIGINAL FORMAT. If it isn't broke, don't fix it. Minor adjustments for a new era are to be expected, but Unsolved Mysteries without a host? Check please.

I share your feelings, but realistically, how should they produce the show?
There's quite a bit of intangibles that make the original show great. People complain about the conciseness of the segments, but that too is why it's great. Here's a photo or sketch; quick dramatization; quick speculation; opposing viewpoint; and on to the next story. They left details out all the time, and that's where our imaginations kicked in.

It's also difficult to replicate a former state in time. Nostalgia gets very close, but intentionally gets it wrong, to differentiate from the source material. Stranger Things is an exercise in aesthetics, but seemingly fails to capture the actual zeitgeist of the period. To explore this concept I have two experiments:

1) Watch all the 80s "kid cast" films. Then watch Super 8. The aesthetic is there, but the films rings hollow.

2) Watch as much of this channel as you can. https://www.youtube.com/user/80sCommercialVault/
It will figuratively transport you back in time, to the 1980s. I can watch 80s films back-to-back, but the only thing that will actually take me back there are these commercials. It's a unique experience that only occurs with people who lived during that time. Young folks watch these commercials and just laugh.

Another thing I want to mention is perception; how humans thought in the 80s and 90s. The unexplained segments at the beginning of the series were taken seriously, likely due to modernist thinking (There's a logical explanation for this, and it's extraterrestrials). Near the end of the series, the unexplained segments suffered tremendously in quality, I speculate, due to a shift towards postmodernism. Why bother searching for the truth if the truth is whatever you want it to be?

What are we hoping for here, ultimately? A dramatized crime/mystery show with an 80s aesthetic that tries to solve 21st century crimes/mysteries with an 80s frame of mind? Can you imagine that? It's a wishy-washy concept. They'd have to pretend not to be aware of certain scientific and cultural advancements to interact in that hypothetical space. Even the original UM suffered from presentism in some places.

Things were scarier and more mysterious when you had to reach a land line to call the police; Things aren't that scary or mysterious when everyone has a computer more powerful than the Apollo Lunar Module in their front pocket.

tarheelslim
09-23-2019, 11:43 AM
I share your feelings, but realistically, how should they produce the show?
There's quite a bit of intangibles that make the original show great. People complain about the conciseness of the segments, but that too is why it's great. Here's a photo or sketch; quick dramatization; quick speculation; opposing viewpoint; and on to the next story. They left details out all the time, and that's where our imaginations kicked in.

It's also difficult to replicate a former state in time. Nostalgia gets very close, but intentionally gets it wrong, to differentiate from the source material. Stranger Things is an exercise in aesthetics, but seemingly fails to capture the actual zeitgeist of the period. To explore this concept I have two experiments:

1) Watch all the 80s "kid cast" films. Then watch Super 8. The aesthetic is there, but the films rings hollow.

2) Watch as much of this channel as you can. https://www.youtube.com/user/80sCommercialVault/
It will figuratively transport you back in time, to the 1980s. I can watch 80s films back-to-back, but the only thing that will actually take me back there are these commercials. It's a unique experience that only occurs with people who lived during that time. Young folks watch these commercials and just laugh.

Another thing I want to mention is perception; how humans thought in the 80s and 90s. The unexplained segments at the beginning of the series were taken seriously, likely due to modernist thinking (There's a logical explanation for this, and it's extraterrestrials). Near the end of the series, the unexplained segments suffered tremendously in quality, I speculate, due to a shift towards postmodernism. Why bother searching for the truth if the truth is whatever you want it to be?

What are we hoping for here, ultimately? A dramatized crime/mystery show with an 80s aesthetic that tries to solve 21st century crimes/mysteries with an 80s frame of mind? Can you imagine that? It's a wishy-washy concept. They'd have to pretend not to be aware of certain scientific and cultural advancements to interact in that hypothetical space. Even the original UM suffered from presentism in some places.

Things were scarier and more mysterious when you had to reach a land line to call the police; Things aren't that scary or mysterious when everyone has a computer more powerful than the Apollo Lunar Module in their front pocket.

A lot of this is dead on.

If they try to recreate the original, that is almost certainly doomed to fail. For the reasons above and many others, it's not feasible.

I'm sure that they are not trying to make it like all the present day ID channel stuff, because there is no point in wasting the UM name and franchise to try to pawn off yet another one of those shows.

It has to be something that harnesses some of the spirit and vibe of the OG but adapted to 2019. I'm hopeful that they have the right people on board to make it happen, but we won't know until we see it.

Todd Mueller
09-24-2019, 11:27 AM
I never had high hopes that this would be even close to the original. I just hope CM learned from the disaster that was the Farina remakes. The overuse of sound effects, the fake call center, and the poor graphics are what really sunk that reboot.

They don't need to try to recreate what Stack did. Just keep the same pacing, feeling, and storytelling as the original and that will be fine. The early music was creepy because it was simple. When it comes to UM, less is more in terms of sound, graphics, and special effects.

tarheelslim
09-24-2019, 02:37 PM
I never had high hopes that this would be even close to the original. I just hope CM learned from the disaster that was the Farina remakes. The overuse of sound effects, the fake call center, and the poor graphics are what really sunk that reboot.

The budget for that version must have been *tiny*.

...which makes me think they must've made a ton of money off of it considering how many times those eps got shown.

UMlover
10-16-2019, 09:56 AM
I'd love to see this on Netflix around Halloween, but doubtful it will be released then as we've heard nothing about it.

tarheelslim
10-16-2019, 10:49 AM
I'd love to see this on Netflix around Halloween, but doubtful it will be released then as we've heard nothing about it.

You never know with Netflix. There is very little communication about anything.

Guardian
10-23-2019, 12:45 AM
A lot of good points made here about the era of the original show. I don't disagree, but I feel there could be a medium between original and contemporary. Personally, I think a key element in that situation would be having a host. It just won't feel right without it.

Blasphemy I know, but I'll be honest, if the Farina version had not just re-edited old segments and actually done new cases, I'd have been fine with its presentation. Would it have been as good? No, but the heart of what the series was would still be there. I think the Farina era would have caught on a bit more and been more respected had they produced new segments.

And to be clear, the google maps and sound effects were overused. However, I think they might have been able to get away with the "24" call center in this scenario.

Huskerz85
10-23-2019, 11:49 AM
I never had high hopes that this would be even close to the original. I just hope CM learned from the disaster that was the Farina remakes. The overuse of sound effects, the fake call center, and the poor graphics are what really sunk that reboot.

They don't need to try to recreate what Stack did. Just keep the same pacing, feeling, and storytelling as the original and that will be fine. The early music was creepy because it was simple. When it comes to UM, less is more in terms of sound, graphics, and special effects.

Exactly. Let the music serve as a nostalgic touch and bring in a suitable host to keep things grounded, but other than that, don't worry too much about making a throwback - just try to do better than the Farina garbage.

tarheelslim
10-23-2019, 02:14 PM
bring in a suitable host to keep things grounded

There is not going to be a host on the new UM

roncore
12-02-2019, 11:33 AM
I'm really surprised we haven't had any updates on this reboot at all. Other than those couple of mentions, it's completely quiet. Netflix shows usually move a little faster than this, or at least have a little more promotion.

everybodylovesrs
12-04-2019, 04:20 PM
I'm really surprised we haven't had any updates on this reboot at all. Other than those couple of mentions, it's completely quiet. Netflix shows usually move a little faster than this, or at least have a little more promotion.

My guess is Cosgrove turned in a pile of rubbish and Netflix said, Nah, go back and work on it some more.

Todd Mueller
12-08-2019, 12:27 PM
I'm really surprised we haven't had any updates on this reboot at all. Other than those couple of mentions, it's completely quiet. Netflix shows usually move a little faster than this, or at least have a little more promotion.

It does make you wonder... Is it just taking this long to produce? Are they waiting for a certain time to release it? Do they not have enough cases yet? Are they waffling on having a host vs. not?

It's been well over a year, and not only are the shows not released yet, we haven't had any real updates, either. I hope this means they are working that much harder to make it awesome.

tarheelslim
12-08-2019, 03:30 PM
It does make you wonder... Is it just taking this long to produce? Are they waiting for a certain time to release it? Do they not have enough cases yet? Are they waffling on having a host vs. not?

It's been well over a year, and not only are the shows not released yet, we haven't had any real updates, either. I hope this means they are working that much harder to make it awesome.

It was announced at the beginning of this year, and it sounded like they hadn't started work on it yet at that point. I believe Cosgrove also said that it would take longer to make episodes with the new no-host/no-narrator format (which makes sense).

Chichester Crowe
12-08-2019, 03:42 PM
The "No Host/No Narrator" setup is a mistake.

I believe it was one of the featurettes on the First Look releases, that mentioned bad acting in the re-enactments. Basically, they said you can tell the difference between bad actors and good ones, as well as the progression of quality in the re-enactment writing.

The tale-tell sign was how much Stack was narrating. If he talked over the re-enactment, instead of letting the actors portray the event, then it was garbage.

One solid host could make up for any perceived campy-ness that comes across in the editing room.

JannTosh
01-12-2020, 01:32 PM
so from what I am hearing about this revival it is basically UM in name only.

jOHnNyD
01-12-2020, 04:55 PM
UM was a unique combination of pacing, editing, music, the limited special effects of the time, and the host. If it’s something with some of those elements done well enough it could work, but after the Farina remake I question if Cosgrove is even interested in putting out anything but a jazzed up remake. You would think that he would want a product that would only enhance the value of the old show, ie make new fans then want to go back and watch old episodes.

drew790
01-13-2020, 03:35 PM
At this rate I'm not expecting it to happen.

And if it does, if it takes over a year to make a season what's the point? It's not about solving mysteries clearly.

MA
01-13-2020, 05:00 PM
Not having a host and narrator is a bad idea.

ghosthouse
01-13-2020, 09:30 PM
One thing about Netflix...they certainly take their time with shows. The last seasons they released for Mindhunter and Stranger Things were both released well over a year after the previous seasons.

RaidenKhan
01-16-2020, 05:30 AM
Add me to the growing contingent annoyed with how this is being handled. I actually think it's a mistake. Look at how HLN is handling this Forensic Files relaunch next month: same format, same music, same feel, just new cases. Taking advantage of the popularity and the nostalgia by, you know, actually recreating what people liked about the show. What is the point of trying to coast on name recognition by releasing a product that bears no resemblance to the original? It baffles me that executives seem to repeatedly not understand tthis.

Bring back the original music, the quality and intrigue of the cases covered, the look and mood of the segments, and get Dennis Haysbert as host (kudos to whoever it was on here who floated that brilliant suggestion), and people will love it. On the other hand, release some hostless, I.D.-quality, Unsolved Mysteries-in-name-only tripe and it will come and go in the blink of an eye. Just because you call something by a certain name doesn't make it so.

Cheers,
Matt

RaidenKhan
01-16-2020, 05:30 AM
Add me to the growing contingent annoyed with how this is being handled. I actually think it's a mistake. Look at how HLN is handling this Forensic Files relaunch next month: same format, same music, same feel, just new cases. Taking advantage of the popularity and the nostalgia by, you know, actually recreating what people liked about the show. What is the point of trying to coast on name recognition by releasing a product that bears no resemblance to the original? It baffles me that executives seem to repeatedly not understand this.

Bring back the original music, the quality and intrigue of the cases covered, the look and mood of the segments, and get Dennis Haysbert as host (kudos to whoever it was on here who floated that brilliant suggestion), and people will love it. On the other hand, release some hostless, I.D.-quality, Unsolved Mysteries-in-name-only tripe and it will come and go in the blink of an eye. Just because you call something by a certain name doesn't make it so.

Cheers,
Matt

Huskerz85
01-16-2020, 12:26 PM
Add me to the growing contingent annoyed with how this is being handled. I actually think it's a mistake. Look at how HLN is handling this Forensic Files relaunch next month: same format, same music, same feel, just new cases. Taking advantage of the popularity and the nostalgia by, you know, actually recreating what people liked about the show. What is the point of trying to coast on name recognition by releasing a product that bears no resemblance to the original? It baffles me that executives seem to repeatedly not understand tthis.

Bring back the original music, the quality and intrigue of the cases covered, the look and mood of the segments, and get Dennis Haysbert as host (kudos to whoever it was on here who floated that brilliant suggestion), and people will love it. On the other hand, release some hostless, I.D.-quality, Unsolved Mysteries-in-name-only tripe and it will come and go in the blink of an eye. Just because you call something by a certain name doesn't make it so.

Cheers,
Matt


Amen!!

drew790
01-16-2020, 12:57 PM
Add me to the growing contingent annoyed with how this is being handled. I actually think it's a mistake. Look at how HLN is handling this Forensic Files relaunch next month: same format, same music, same feel, just new cases. Taking advantage of the popularity and the nostalgia by, you know, actually recreating what people liked about the show. What is the point of trying to coast on name recognition by releasing a product that bears no resemblance to the original? It baffles me that executives seem to repeatedly not understand this.

Bring back the original music, the quality and intrigue of the cases covered, the look and mood of the segments, and get Dennis Haysbert as host (kudos to whoever it was on here who floated that brilliant suggestion), and people will love it. On the other hand, release some hostless, I.D.-quality, Unsolved Mysteries-in-name-only tripe and it will come and go in the blink of an eye. Just because you call something by a certain name doesn't make it so.

Cheers,
Matt


This!

tarheelslim
01-16-2020, 06:40 PM
Bring back the original music, the quality and intrigue of the cases covered, the look and mood of the segments, and get Dennis Haysbert as host (kudos to whoever it was on here who floated that brilliant suggestion), and people will love it. On the other hand, release some hostless, I.D.-quality, Unsolved Mysteries-in-name-only tripe and it will come and go in the blink of an eye. Just because you call something by a certain name doesn't make it so.

There's no way that that is going to be the look/feel of this show. They could've made the whole season in a month if that's what they were going for. Those shows are a dime a dozen and Netflix wouldn't need to waste their time on something like that when there are already entire networks devoted to cranking out that stuff.

If they tried to recreate the Stack era, that would be an almost guaranteed failure. I think it is smart that they're trying to figure out a way to carry the franchise into the future without the monumental presence of The Stack (which cannot be reproduced by just throwing a similar guy in there). I look forward to seeing what they've come up with.

RaidenKhan
01-16-2020, 08:09 PM
If they tried to recreate the Stack era, that would be an almost guaranteed failure.

Agree to disagree. :)
I think success or failure would depend entirely on the choice of host and the quality of the segments. Of course it could never be the same, because Stack is irreplaceable. But does that mean you have to release something that bears zero resemblance to the show people loved, while disengenuously using that show's name?

It would be different enough by default, due to the passage of time, technology, and a new host. They don't have to try to reinvent it from the ground up. This never works.

Cheers,
Matt

Chichester Crowe
01-17-2020, 02:05 PM
Similarly to UM, In Search Of... has three iterations.
The original is a classic. Nemoy and the creepy 70's sound mixing is a unique brand.

The 2002 Mitch Pileggi revival is right on par with the Dennis Farina UM revival. Almost none of the original identity was preserved. They feel soul-less, just going through the motions. Neither of these iterations invokes the power of the originals.

I've only watched some of the forbidden site trailers for the 2018 Zach Quinto revival, but as you can see from the advertisement, they are incorporating some of the original aesthetic. Here's a quote from Quinto via Variety:

"Whereas Leonard was the host of “In Search of” in a very traditional way — welcoming the audience in from a studio, oftentimes in a sort of blazer and turtleneck vibe, and then handing it off to a prerecorded segment that delved into whatever topic they were exploring — I wanted to be on the ground. I wanted to have the audience’s experience of the show be firsthand and through my eyes, and so that was number one. I wanted to be on the ground; I wanted to travel; I wanted to conduct interviews myself, and I was grateful that my partners at Propagate [Content] and Fremantle and Universal were open to that. That was the launching point, and then — in terms of partnering with History and figuring out what searches we were going to embark upon — that became a different conversation about how much do we want to honor where the show came from, and how much do we want to take it in a new direction."

The Netflix UM revival will not be the NBC UM. Even with the proliferation of fictional narratives taking place in the 80s and 90s in current media, it will never be able to capture that zeitgeist. Remember: Nostalgia intentionally gets things wrong, and that's mostly because of the way humans tend to remember things (rosily).

I think the more important question to ask is, "Will I enjoy this?"
Or alternatively, "Will this show be successful in finding missing persons and tracking down fugitives?"

I'm a huge fan of Dawn of the Dead (1978). I also enjoy Dawn of the Dead (2004). While the latter does not have the existential depth of the former, I can still appreciate them both, as they were passionately produced and well articulated.

drew790
01-17-2020, 02:54 PM
The Quinto version is enjoyable.

For me, I never expected to tune into 1980s UM on Netflix. I don't think that was ever a realistic expectation. What I had hoped for was an updated version in that vein. Creepy but modern music, reenactments, something to creep me TF out with modern filming techniques, and a suitable host to guide me through it.

After botching the format so badly in 2008 with weird psudo rock music, scan lines, and google earth, I'd hoped they'd have learned to stick with what works but update it. DOesn't sound like that's the case, but whenever this thing airs I'll still be watching.

Chichester Crowe
01-18-2020, 01:28 PM
Doesn't sound like that's the case, but whenever this thing airs I'll still be watching.

I'll be watching as well. However, my track record with modern television isn't so good. Basically WestWorld and Rick & Morty are the only modern shows I like.

jOHnNyD
01-18-2020, 11:35 PM
You can’t replace Robert Stack but if you put in a Dennis Haysbert, keep the same music and have 4 mysteries per episode of various themes I think it has the potential to work. I think it’s a mistake to have 1 story per episode. A unique feature of unsolved mysteries is you would go from a UFO story to a lost love segment to a murder. That made UM what it truly is as much as Robert Stack.

Souldriver5440
01-19-2020, 04:36 AM
Hey could somebody pm the link to this forbidden site. I’m not a narc just a huge fan. What kind of test do you have to pass to find out?!