Of all the parents of the girls we got to see visit (it was always a highlight to me as a kid to see a "Facts" girl's mom or dad walk through that cafeteria arch to come visit), who were your favorites? What do you love about them? :)

Poll choices are in chronological order. :)

Great topic!

I think my favorite parent is Jo's dad. Sure, he messed up his life, and the whole family's lives, but he honestly was trying to make amends.

Molly's father is probably my next favorite. He has more love for Molly than three of Blair's fathers.

There are things I like about both Monica and Prototype Monica, but things I don't like as well. They both seemed abusive in some ways. At least Prototype Monica recommends drinking plenty of milk, which is good advice.

Mr. Warner seems quite absentee, but not as much as Tootie's parents, who seem very bossy on the rare occasion they actually see their daughter. And of course Alexandra's parents are very disappointing.

I don't like Natalie's mom.

Mr. Branch, Nina's father, seems kinda sleazy.

Alas, we never see Cindy's parents, or Nancy's, or Sue Ann's, though we know Sue Ann's mother is 41 in 1980.

^---Hey! You replied while I was posting my poll! :lol: (why would it show my thread before I was done with my poll?? lol)

Great topic!

Right?? Not praising myself, I just think it's a topic that hasn't really been broached here before, and we have to have opinions on the parents.


They both seemed abusive in some ways.

That's interesting. I've never thought of Monica (the real Monica, #2) as "abusive".


Mr. Branch, Nina's father, seems kinda sleazy.

Haha, yeah, "Facts" parents were different in the '70s. ;) lol :grineyes:


I don't like Natalie's mom.

This shocks me.

Alright, I voted for Molly's dad, and Jo's mom and dad. I'd forgotten to mention Rose in my previous post, and that woman was a saint.

Right?? Not praising myself, I just think it's a topic that hasn't really been broached here before, and we have to have opinions on the parents.


It definitely deserves some discussion, so kudos!


That's interesting. I've never thought of Monica (the real Monica, #2) as "abusive".

I feel like... she waltzes into Blair's life when it's convenient for her, or when she needs help, but where was she during all of Blair's big events? Even Prototype Monica came to Parents' Night. Monica 2.0 never did that, as far as I recall.

And that Monica even was bad-mouthing her ex in front of Blair.


Haha, yeah, "Facts" parents were different in the '70s. ;) lol :grineyes:

:lol: What a difference a year makes!


This shocks me.

Why?

^---Hey! You replied while I was posting my poll! :lol: (why would it show my thread before I was done with my poll?? lol)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I feel like... she waltzes into Blair's life when it's convenient for her, or when she needs help, but where was she during all of Blair's big events? Even Prototype Monica came to Parents' Night. Monica 2.0 never did that, as far as I recall.

And that Monica even was bad-mouthing her ex in front of Blair.

I guess I can understand it sometimes, like when she finds out in front of Blair that Blair's father won't make it to her graduation---oo, there ya go Retro, Monica did come to her graduation, lol. I do like it how she and Blair find some more closeness when Monica comes first to town in "A Friend in Need".


Why?

Because I love Evie. She reminds me in some ways of my own mother. So you saying she doesn't like her sounds in a way like you don't like my mom, haha. ;) I also feel so bad for her during this scene-stopping exchange:

Evie: "Natalie, I'm your mother :) -- "

Natalie: "Not my real mother! :mad:"

Tootie: "Natalie! :eek: "

Natalie: "Well she's not! You adopted a stranger and I'm still just a stranger to you! :mad:"

Evie: :(

Evie is one of my favorites because of the type of person she is (some of that is in Rose as well, who also reminds me a bit of my mom).

Monica is one of the ones who I remember most vividly from childhood. I kinda remember Dr. Green and David Warner from those formative years, but I really remember Monica.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

:lol:

No option for Judy Parker? :mad::lol:

No option for Judy Parker? :mad::lol:

Haha! Nope! She did float through my mind of course, but ya gotta be on screen ;)

I don't like Natalie's mom.



WHAAAAAT? Why not? We need details.

Justin Branch - Nina's dad (season 1): No! A cheater and scumbag!
"Prototype" Monica Warner - Blair's mom: I always had a soft spot for her, tbh.
Mr. Ramsey - Tootie's dad (season 1): He was too hard on Mrs. G.
Dr. Parker - Molly's dad (season 1): I liked him, he was a good guy.
Charlie Polniaczek - Jo's dad: He was definitely trying to make up for his mistakes.
Monica Warner - Blair's mom (season 2, on): Wasn't she in season 3 on? ;) She was OK but I don't like the way she yelled at Geri! I get she had a looming diagnosis but REALLY?
Dr. Green - Natalie's dad: Only time we see him he's cheating and then POOF dead.
Evie Green - Natalie's mom: I thought she was cute, I like her.
David Warner - Blair's dad: When do we see him? Do we ever?
Rose Polniaczek - Jo's mom: I think she might be my favorite. She's hardworking but always so supportive and loving.
Diane Ramsey - Tootie's mom: I liked her, Tootie seemed hard on her.
Kevin McKenna - Pippa's dad: Im not there yet, but Im guessing he's Australian? :D

WHAAAAAT? Why not? We need details.

I know, right? I'm not saying he should change his opinion, it's just that it's such a surprise!

Maybe he had a really bad experience with a cello or a set of encyclopedia!

No option for Judy Parker? :mad::lol:
Sadly, her one big on-screen role got cut. But we know it existed! :lol:

That's interesting. I've never thought of Monica (the real Monica, #2) as "abusive".
"NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS GERI!!!!! :mad::mad::mad:"

This shocks me.
Right?! WTF? We need some explanation stat!

Justin Branch - Nina's dad (season 1): No! A cheater and scumbag!

Wow! No love yet for Mr. Branch in this thread! :lol:


Monica Warner - Blair's mom (season 2, on): Wasn't she in season 3 on? ;)

D'oh! Ya got me, Lorsie! But really, I think of her as Blair's mom as soon as the later part of season 1, from "Molly's Holiday!" ("What's that, dear? You cut up my credit cards? I just ran your favorite sweater down the garbage disposal!" - as Retry and I agree, that so sounds like Marge-Monica! lol)



Dr. Green - Natalie's dad: Only time we see him he's cheating and then POOF dead.

:lol: There's just something funny about the way you say that! Kinda like season 2 Tootie, haha!


David Warner - Blair's dad: When do we see him? Do we ever?

Yes! Twice! :lol: Remember when he visited in season 3?? With his tax issues?? He and Blair had a talk in the lounge??



Kevin McKenna - Pippa's dad: Im not there yet, but Im guessing he's Australian? :D

Haha, maybe!

"NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS GERI!!!!! :mad::mad::mad:"

Haha, okay, yeah, I know...but still, yeah, what she was going through! And if you're gonna snap at somebody, it's gonna be at somebody ya love. But, she does immediately apologize!

Actually, I'm predicting the leaders in this poll are gonna be Charlie and Monica. They had the most appearances, get lots of fan feedback, and heck, there was even an episode about 'em!

WHAAAAAT? Why not? We need details.

Justin Branch - Nina's dad (season 1): No! A cheater and scumbag!

Did he actually cheat? Was he married to Mrs. Branch? Not defending the guy, just asking if we know that.


"Prototype" Monica Warner - Blair's mom: I always had a soft spot for her, tbh.

But if Mr. Branch is married, wouldn't that make her a cheater as well? Or does she get a pass because of all the milk?


Monica Warner - Blair's mom (season 2, on): Wasn't she in season 3 on? ;) She was OK but I don't like the way she yelled at Geri! I get she had a looming diagnosis but REALLY?

Yeah, the Geri-yelling is another example of her abusiveness. I mean, here Geri was, reeling from the news that she was no longer a Warner, and now Monica yells at her.


David Warner - Blair's dad: When do we see him? Do we ever?

We will see him.


Kevin McKenna - Pippa's dad: Im not there yet, but Im guessing he's Australian? :D

Nah, he's from Uzbekistan, of course! :lol:

Yes! Twice! :lol: Remember when he visited in season 3?? With his tax issues?? He and Blair had a talk in the lounge??

Ohhh right. He put stuff in Blair's name. Eh he didn't leave a big impression. Tbh all the dads on the show were kinda jerks

Did he actually cheat? Was he married to Mrs. Branch? Not defending the guy, just asking if we know that.



But if Mr. Branch is married, wouldn't that make her a cheater as well? Or does she get a pass because of all the milk?



Yeah, the Geri-yelling is another example of her abusiveness. I mean, here Geri was, reeling from the news that she was no longer a Warner, and now Monica yells at her.



We will see him.



Nah, he's from Uzbekistan, of course! :lol:

You still haven't explained your dislike of Evie! You may not leave until you spill Retry! :nonono:

"
Right?! WTF? We need some explanation stat!

She's so meek she reminds me of a mouse.

Did he actually cheat? Was he married to Mrs. Branch? Not defending the guy, just asking if we know that.

Yeah, he's married. Remember Miss Mahoney telling Mrs. Garrett she saw Mr. Branch kissing a woman in the garden? And when she wonders who it is, Mrs. Garrett says, "If we're lucky, maybe it's Mrs. Branch with very long lips!"

And Blair chastises her oversexed prototype mother, by referring to her hook-up as "a married man!"


But if Mr. Branch is married, wouldn't that make her a cheater as well?

Well, if she's single, which we presume she is, then she's not a cheater. But she is obviously an accessory! :lol:


Yeah, the Geri-yelling is another example of her abusiveness. I mean, here Geri was, reeling from the news that she was no longer a Warner, and now Monica yells at her.

Haha, she's still Warner then. Maybe we can pretend in season 5 that she took "Gery Tyler" as a stage name! :nod:

Haha, okay, yeah, I know...but still, yeah, what she was going through! And if you're gonna snap at somebody, it's gonna be at somebody ya love. But, she does immediately apologize!

Actually, I'm predicting the leaders in this poll are gonna be Charlie and Monica. They had the most appearances, get lots of fan feedback, and heck, there was even an episode about 'em!

Im gonna have to go with Rose and Dr. Parker as my fav mother and fav father.

Ohhh right. He put stuff in Blair's name. Eh he didn't leave a big impression. Tbh all the dads on the show were kinda jerks

Not Molly's dad. He loved his daughter three times as much as Blair's dad. :lol:

She's so meek she reminds me of a mouse.

LOL but she does yell at Nat when she doesn't wanna hear about her real mom.

She's so meek she reminds me of a mouse.

I think Prototype Monica is even meeker, lol.

But, what's wrong with meek? The meek shall inherit the earth---and roles on "Facts". ;)

Not Molly's dad. He loved his daughter three times as much as Blair's dad. :lol:

Yep thats why he's my fav father.

Im gonna have to go with Rose and Dr. Parker as my fav mother and fav father.

Interesting combo! Go Dr. Parker, some season 1 dad love! :lol:

I think Prototype Monica is even meeker, lol.

But, what's wrong with meek? The meek shall inherit the earth---and roles on "Facts". ;)

Meek? She's making out with a married man, telling Blair to kiss him, and slaps her in the face! Not exactly meek to me...

Not Molly's dad. He loved his daughter three times as much as Blair's dad. :lol:
So did Jo's dad! :lol: :bighug:

Meek? She's making out with a married man, telling Blair to kiss him, and slaps her in the face! Not exactly meek to me...

I mean her screen presence and her voice. She seems kind of like a shrinking violet to me, and you almost have to turn up the volume to hear her! :lol:

Yeah, he's married. Remember Miss Mahoney telling Mrs. Garrett she saw Mr. Branch kissing a woman in the garden? And when she wonders who it is, Mrs. Garrett says, "If we're lucky, maybe it's Mrs. Branch with very long lips!"

And Blair chastises her oversexed prototype mother, by referring to her hook-up as "a married man!"

Ah, right, I blanked on that part.


Well, if she's single, which we presume she is, then she's not a cheater. But she is obviously an accessory! :lol:

But if someone has sex with a married person, I'd consider that cheating, too.


Haha, she's still Warner then. Maybe we can pretend in season 5 that she took "Gery Tyler" as a stage name! :nod:

We will have to! Same with Cindy "Baker".

LOL but she does yell at Nat when she doesn't wanna hear about her real mom.

I LOVE that.

SO much.

Meek? She's making out with a married man, telling Blair to kiss him, and slaps her in the face! Not exactly meek to me...
I agree.

Yep thats why he's my fav father.

Well, Jo's dad did the same! lol

Also: we got this thread to 3 pages in just an hour and 13 minutes! :lol:

And no, my thumb did not jerk! :lol:

Tonight's episode title: "Posting"! :stooges:

Ah, right, I blanked on that part.



But if someone has sex with a married person, I'd consider that cheating, too.



We will have to! Same with Cindy "Baker".

I don't think they got that far yet, Monica did end up staying over with Blair instead.

Haha! Yep.

I LOVE that.

SO much.

Whys that?

Well, Jo's dad did the same! lol

Also: we got this thread to 3 pages in just an hour and 13 minutes! :lol:

And no, my thumb did not jerk! :lol:

Tonight's episode title: "Posting"! :stooges:

Yeah but didn't he cheat as well? Geez Tootie's dad was the only non-cheater of the core four?
I think we're all on here at the same time and keep have new posts popping up that we have to respond to.

But if someone has sex with a married person, I'd consider that cheating, too.

Do you? Because they're not cheating "on" someone. Oh wait, yeah, then you could say they're cheating "with" someone.


We will have to! Same with Cindy "Baker".

Haha, yep---"People will be expecting to see Emmanuel Lewis with your name on magazine covers! We gotta change it!"

Whys that?

Look for more details tomorrow (consider this post "TO BE CONTINUED", haha popcorn: ).


Yeah but didn't he cheat as well? Geez Tootie's dad was the only non-cheater of the core four?
I think we're all on here at the same time and keep have new posts popping up that we have to respond to.

Whoa whoa whoa, leave Charlie alone! :lol: We never heard of him cheating! At least, not as far as "Bought and Sold". If I do hear any such talk I'll let you know, but I don't think he did. And what about David? We don't know that he ever cheated either! Gosh Lorsie, don't go being a Molly and being so "anti-man"! :p

Do you? Because they're not cheating "on" someone. Oh wait, yeah, then you could say they're cheating "with" someone.

Exaaaactly!!!


Haha, yep---"People will be expecting to see Emmanuel Lewis with your name on magazine covers! We gotta change it!"

:lol:

Whoa whoa whoa, leave Charlie alone! :lol: We never heard of him cheating! At least, not as far as "Bought and Sold". If I do hear any such talk I'll let you know, but I don't think he did. And what about David? We don't know that he ever cheated either! Gosh Lorsie, don't go being a Molly and being so "anti-man"! :p

David and Charlie cheated financially: David with his taxes, Charlie with stealing stuff.

Whoa whoa whoa, leave Charlie alone! :lol: We never heard of him cheating! At least, not as far as "Bought and Sold". If I do hear any such talk I'll let you know, but I don't think he did. And what about David? We don't know that he ever cheated either! Gosh Lorsie, don't go being a Molly and being so "anti-man"! :p
I thought he did? Maybe Im mistaken. Blair definitely alluded to both parents cheating. Im not anti-man! I AM a man! :lol:

David and Charlie cheated financially: David with his taxes, Charlie with stealing stuff.

AHA!!!!!!


;)

David and Charlie cheated financially: David with his taxes, Charlie with stealing stuff.

Oh no! It's another anti-man Molly! I'm gonna have to stand up for my brotherhood around here! :lol:


Im not anti-man! I AM a man! :lol:

Retro and Lorsie:

" 'Facts' dads can't be trusteeeeed
Our :heart:s feel like they're busteeeeed
Boy are we disgusteeeeeed
We got a right to post the bluuuuuuues!"

I thought he did? Maybe Im mistaken. Blair definitely alluded to both parents cheating. Im not anti-man! I AM a man! :lol:

Monica and David cheating?? Alright, you show me where! (or, if I come upon it in my viewing, I'll tell you, lol)

" 'Facts' dads can't be trusteeeeed
Our :heart:s feel like they're busteeeeed
Boy are we disgusteeeeeed
We got a right to post the bluuuuuuues!"

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Im not anti-man! I AM a man! :lol:

You're younger than us! You're a :baby: man! :lol: :D

You're younger than us! You're a :baby: man! :lol: :D

:rolleyes::lol:

Monica and David cheating?? Alright, you show me where! (or, if I come upon it in my viewing, I'll tell you, lol)

I’m still on season 6. Maybe after I get back around I’ll tell ya.

Hey! I just thought of something!

Maybe Mrs. Branch found out about her husband and Prototype Monica, and she was LIVID: :livid: --- and Justin warned her, so then she went out and had a complete plastic surgery body makeover, even having her voice changed, her legs shortened, and hair blond hair pulled out and brown hair sewn in! THAT'S why she's different after season 1!

:lol:

:crazy:

Hey, it can fit in as your personal fan theory if you want! LOL!

Hey! I just thought of something!

Maybe Mrs. Branch found out about her husband and Prototype Monica, and she was LIVID: :livid: --- and Justin warned her, so then she went out and had a complete plastic surgery body makeover, even having her voice changed, her legs shortened, and hair blond hair pulled out and brown hair sewn in! THAT'S why she's different after season 1!

:lol:

:crazy:

Hey, it can fit in as your personal fan theory if you want! LOL!

:rofl:

In my 10 or 12 girls version of FOL season 1 Nina knew her father was very friendly...

Hey! I just thought of something!

Maybe Mrs. Branch found out about her husband and Prototype Monica, and she was LIVID: :livid: --- and Justin warned her, so then she went out and had a complete plastic surgery body makeover, even having her voice changed, her legs shortened, and hair blond hair pulled out and brown hair sewn in! THAT'S why she's different after season 1!

:lol:

:crazy:

Hey, it can fit in as your personal fan theory if you want! LOL!

But why go to the trouble of changing your entire body, but keeping the same name? :lol:

But why go to the trouble of changing your entire body, but keeping the same name? :lol:

Ahhhh,hahaha! :lol:

Maybe to hold onto all her $$$ easier? lol

After all, she could just always say, "My dear, you obviously have the wrong Monica Warner!" lol

:schmack:

(just ignore that emoji still showing Prototype Monica, haha)

(just ignore that emoji still showing Prototype Monica, haha)
:brent

:schmack:

(just ignore that emoji still showing Prototype Monica, haha)

Yeah, where is the Monica 2.0 emoji? There isn't even a "rich woman snapping at girl with cerebral palsy" emoji!


I even found a second emoji for Miss Mahoney:

:explode:

I even found a second emoji for Miss Mahoney:

:explode:

Haha! Yeah, when Mr. Bradley keeps upping the girls' curfew! :lol:

Haha! Yeah, when Mr. Bradley keeps upping the girls' curfew! :lol:

IM IN BED AT 11:15!

IM IN BED AT 11:15!

Haha! Yeah, gotta give that perm time to rest all its curl! ;)

Whys that?

Look for more details tomorrow (consider this post "TO BE CONTINUED", haha popcorn: ).

Here we go Lorsie, get your popcorn: ready! :)

From post #331 of the Season 2 props/sets/decor discussion thread (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=373576&page=23):

"Dearest Mommie" I do believe is the episode that deeply touches me, and chokes me up, more than any other episode across 9 seasons. Natalie's not my favorite girl, and I don't even have a personal connection to adoption at all, but I just get so washed over with emotion at the end of this show. When Natalie and her mother have made up, and are sitting on the couch chatting in such a casual, familial mother/daughter way, and the camera slowly pans in framing the framed photo between them on that table behind the couch, and we hear Natalie and her mom bonding through the sharing in their chat as our view is focused on a photograph of Natalie and her mother, holding each other and smiling so big, clearly connecting on a plane of pure, happy, unbreakable love as mother and daughter in that moment, captured for all time in immortality...that 15 or so seconds of that, ending the show, just gets to my heart and sends such an emotional surge through me. There is just something so perfect about witnessing that "live" bonding between them while we see a frozen moment of just how strong their mother/daughter love it at the same time. It is perhaps the most perfect ending of any episode in this series.

One thing I love and respect so much about this final act, at the Green home, is the utter honesty they showed (of course, par for the course for this show!). The "fact" that they showed Evie snap at Natalie, "No, I don't wanna hear another word about it!"---and then reel around in shame, apology, and love, saying "I'm sorry. I didn't mean to react like that", and then Natalie a bit stung and regretful shrinking back with, "I shouldn't have told you", and Evie supporting and encouraging her with maternal warmth with "Yes, you should! I'm your mother!"---the writing, direction, and acting in those moments are simply brilliant.

So, it's basically the realism of that moment I love, Lorsie. You might expect Evie to be written to understand and listen to Natalie what has to say, but she's only human---it stings at first, in a panicked moment of "Will she love her birth mother more?"

And then I love how she immediately regrets it and apologizes, and is there for Natalie again like a true mother. :grouphug:

And then Retry even said, and I quote: "I will definitely look out for this one, on my re-watch!"

I watch a show on TLC called "Long Lost Family" about adoptees searching for family members (usually birth mom, sometimes "birth dad", or a sibling they were separated from), or people searching for a child/children they gave up for adoption. It's an hour and is such an experience to watch---and the revelations and the reunions get to me, and I get "allergies in my eyes"...[sniff sniff]... :blush:

I can just imagine hanging out in the lounge, watching it with Natalie and the girls every week. popcorn: :so

So, it's basically the realism of that moment I love, Lorsie. You might expect Evie to be written to understand and listen to Natalie what has to say, but she's only human---it stings at first, in a panicked moment of "Will she love her birth mother more?"

And then I love how she immediately regrets it and apologizes, and is there for Natalie again like a true mother. :grouphug:

And then Retry even said, and I quote: "I will definitely look out for this one, on my re-watch!"

I watch a show on TLC called "Long Lost Family" about adoptees searching for family members (usually birth mom, sometimes "birth dad", or a sibling they were separated from), or people searching for a child/children they gave up for adoption. It's an hour and is such an experience to watch---and the revelations and the reunions get to me, and I get "allergies in my eyes"...[sniff sniff]... :blush:

I can just imagine hanging out in the lounge, watching it with Natalie and the girls every week. popcorn: :so

I agree, this was a good moment. I remember it well. It was very realistic and had a lot of heart.

I agree, this was a good moment. I remember it well. It was very realistic and had a lot of heart.

:nod:

Just checking, since you quoted my post at the top of the page---did you see my first post at the bottom of page 4?

Rose Polniaczek - Jo's mom: I think she might be my favorite. She's hardworking but always so supportive and loving.


Jo's mom sucked. When Jo was going to run off and marry Eddie, we learn that the mom dumped Jo at Eastland all so her boyfriend could move in. She was selfish.

Jo's mom sucked. When Jo was going to run off and marry Eddie, we learn that the mom dumped Jo at Eastland all so her boyfriend could move in. She was selfish.

She sent Jo there because Jo had fallen in with a bad crowd (skipping school and staying out nights), and wanted better for her daughter. But, it did sound like they changed some of the perception of her character from hearing about her with the boyfriend, to when we finally meet her two seasons later.

Haha yes, I saw both! ;) Look for more details tomorrow (consider this post "TO BE CONTINUED", haha popcorn: ).

Here we go Lorsie, get your popcorn: ready! :)

From post #331 of the Season 2 props/sets/decor discussion thread (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=373576&page=23):

"Dearest Mommie" I do believe is the episode that deeply touches me, and chokes me up, more than any other episode across 9 seasons. Natalie's not my favorite girl, and I don't even have a personal connection to adoption at all, but I just get so washed over with emotion at the end of this show. When Natalie and her mother have made up, and are sitting on the couch chatting in such a casual, familial mother/daughter way, and the camera slowly pans in framing the framed photo between them on that table behind the couch, and we hear Natalie and her mom bonding through the sharing in their chat as our view is focused on a photograph of Natalie and her mother, holding each other and smiling so big, clearly connecting on a plane of pure, happy, unbreakable love as mother and daughter in that moment, captured for all time in immortality...that 15 or so seconds of that, ending the show, just gets to my heart and sends such an emotional surge through me. There is just something so perfect about witnessing that "live" bonding between them while we see a frozen moment of just how strong their mother/daughter love it at the same time. It is perhaps the most perfect ending of any episode in this series.

One thing I love and respect so much about this final act, at the Green home, is the utter honesty they showed (of course, par for the course for this show!). The "fact" that they showed Evie snap at Natalie, "No, I don't wanna hear another word about it!"---and then reel around in shame, apology, and love, saying "I'm sorry. I didn't mean to react like that", and then Natalie a bit stung and regretful shrinking back with, "I shouldn't have told you", and Evie supporting and encouraging her with maternal warmth with "Yes, you should! I'm your mother!"---the writing, direction, and acting in those moments are simply brilliant.

Haha yes, I saw both! ;)

Oh, haha, you didn't have to quote it too :lol: , I just wasn't clear if you saw it or not since my 2nd post started a new page. :typing:

Jo's mom sucked. When Jo was going to run off and marry Eddie, we learn that the mom dumped Jo at Eastland all so her boyfriend could move in. She was selfish.

Hmm i don't remember that, I do remember they had trouble contacting her when Jo was planning to elope. They also never make reference to her seeing anyone once she appears.

Hmm i don't remember that, I do remember they had trouble contacting her when Jo was planning to elope. They also never make reference to her seeing anyone once she appears.

Yeah, Mrs. Garrett tells Blair in "The New Girl Part 1" Rose send Jo to Eastland for a better life because "Jo met a boy who got her into trouble"---"truancy, staying out all hours". It seemed like Jack was a new boyfriend by the time of "Teenage Marriage". And the picture we get there of Rose isn't quite the same as the sweet, down-to-earth Rose we eventually meet.

Yeah, Mrs. Garrett tells Blair in "The New Girl Part 1" Rose send Jo to Eastland for a better life because "Jo met a boy who got her into trouble"---"truancy, staying out all hours". It seemed like Jack was a new boyfriend by the time of "Teenage Marriage". And the picture we get there of Rose isn't quite the same as the sweet, down-to-earth Rose we eventually meet.

Interesting. I figured it was the same bf since they got engaged.

Interesting. I figured it was the same bf since they got engaged.

What are you talking about? :confused:

What are you talking about? :confused:

Idk... who is Jack? Are you thinking of Eddie?

Haha, no, I'm not thinking of Mr. French Breakfast of Champions! :lol: Jack! Rose's new boyfriend's name in "Teenage Marriage" is Jack!

C'mon Lorsie, get with the program! popcorn: :so

:p

Haha, no, I'm not thinking of Mr. French Breakfast of Champions! :lol: Jack! Rose's new boyfriend's name in "Teenage Marriage" is Jack!

C'mon Lorsie, get with the program! popcorn: :so

:p

Sorry :(

Following Lorsie's model of going through the list:

Justin Branch - at first we may think he's a friendly good-lookin' "guy's guy" kind of guy, but he is WAY too friendly! I'm really sorry that Nina's father turns out to be a jerk (even by '70s standards, haha). Well, okay, at least he does love his daughter and comes to Parents' Night for her. I respect that, but I do not respect how loose he keeps his marriage (unless he is open and this is okay with Mrs. Branch, but I doubt it is).

"Prototype" Monica - why did they hire her to play Blair's mother? I just think she's too tall, and too quiet---to be Blair's mom, that is. There's nothing wrong with being tall and quiet (just ask any giraffe, haha). But I'm not too keen on how openly flirty/leading she is, not to mention slapping her own daughter in front of everyone.

Mr. Ramsey - take a chill pill, "Buffalo"! lol...he turns out okay in the end, but otherwise he's an obstacle all along the way.

Dr. Parker - now this is a parent! lol..true he is the one who walked away from Mrs. Parker, but he loves his daughter so much, and wants her to be happy. Also, we get the feeling that he and Mrs. Parker are at least civil now that they're separated, and everyone is getting used to the new situation.

Charie - who doesn't love Charlie? He's one of the most classic "Facts" folks. He is very much in my childhood memories of watching this show. He may have gone bad, but he turned back around, redeemed himself, and fought his way be in his daughter's life. This dad is aces. Also, he and Rose get along pretty well after everything that's happened, and I really like that.

Monica - another classic "Facts" parent. Like Charlie, she is very much ingrained in my childhood memories of this show. In fact, so much so that I thought she appeared more than she actually did! I like her sophistication and affinity for the good things in life, without going so overboard as to be a turn-off.

Dr. Green - ah, the second nameless "Facts" father! At least with Tootie's dad we got 2 nicknames, but we have no idea of what Dr. Green's name is. I'm sorry that he felt something amiss in his marriage to Evie to feel he had to cheat on her. I like seeing how pained he is seeing how badly he hurt Natalie, because that shows he's not all bad. And while I don't condone what he did, "getting killed off" down the road seems a bit heavy! lol

Evie - what a wonderful mother. She loves her daughter as though she's her own genetic child, and she looks out for her best interests, keeping her future in mind. She kind of reminds me of my mom in that certain "mom love" she has, being friendly, genial, and liked by her daughter's friends. She also has a kind of housecoat thing like my mom has sometimes worn, lol.

David Warner - while far from Father of the Year, I think he does really love Blair in his own way, he just doesn't (or can't) show it in much of a typical fatherly way.

Rose - such a sweet lady, and such a good mother to work so long and so hard for her daughter, to try to afford a better life for her. She turns out to be so great, I always wish we'd met her much sooner than right before the end of the cafeteria age.

Diane - I haven't seen her episodes much, but I liked finally seeing Tootie's mom. We really should have met her in the cafeteria age, though. I remember liking her okay enough.

Kevin - I liked him better than Pippa! lol

Nice list Eights! Gosh what did Pippa do? Isn't she wallpaper like Nancy? :lol:

Sorry :(

Aww, don't be sorry---be Lorsie! :D

Nice list Eights! Gosh what did Pippa do? Isn't she wallpaper like Nancy? :lol:

The difference is Nancy fit in, and Nancy has charter Lost Girl status! :cheer:

Aww, don't be sorry---be Lorsie! :D

;)

The difference is Nancy fit in, and Nancy has charter Lost Girl status! :cheer:

Not to mention she has her phone phone:

Jo's mom sucked. When Jo was going to run off and marry Eddie, we learn that the mom dumped Jo at Eastland all so her boyfriend could move in. She was selfish.

I got the distinct impression that this was Jo's belief about what had happened, rather than what actually happened. Jo's perspective was completely warped, as shown by the fact that she had no problem shoplifting, threatening someone, or stealing a van. Clearly, Jo was in denial about why she got sent to Eastland: it was to protect her from the bad elements to which she had become accustomed, not so that Rose could simply shack up with a guy: if that were the case, Jo would have returned home when Rose and Jack broke up. And that didn't happen.

The difference is Nancy fit in
But did Nancy really fit in? She didn't even get in "The Group".

But did Nancy really fit in? She didn't even get in "The Group".

Cuz of Roger!

But did Nancy really fit in? She didn't even get in "The Group".

You know what I mean. ;) She was organic to the show, and was there before the dawn of the series itself. :)

You know what I mean. ;) She was organic to the show, and was there before the dawn of the series itself. :)

She got the first storyline of anyone. Actually that’s an interesting thought. Based on airdate order the first storyline for each girl was: Nancy, Cindy, Blair, Sue Ann, Tootie, Natalie, Molly (filming order would only switch the last 2)

She got the first storyline of anyone. Actually that’s an interesting thought. Based on airdate order the first storyline for each girl was: Nancy, Cindy, Blair, Sue Ann, Tootie, Natalie, Molly (filming order would only switch the last 2)

I think the order was:
0. TGS - Nancy
1. RH - Cindy
2. LMLD - Blair
3. TROMG - Mrs. Garrett
4. IQ - Nancy/Sue Ann
5. O - Tootie
6. ED - Blair
7. D - Sue Ann
8. FOL - Blair
9. FF - Blair/Tootie
10. A - Natalie
11. R - Sue Ann/Cindy
12. MH - Molly
13. D - Sue Ann/Blair

So I agree with your listing of the order of the first storyline for each girl. Molly's sole storyline was so late in the season; can you imagine waiting and waiting all year for your one big episode!? :lol:

So I agree with your listing of the order of the first storyline for each girl. Molly's sole storyline was so late in the season; can you imagine waiting and waiting all year for your one big episode!? :lol:

Plus it was filmed sixth I believe

Plus it was filmed sixth I believe

That's had me wondering for a while now about that theory that Retro alerted us to, that perhaps Molly was in the "running" (ha) to be kept on? He showed us that FOL promo on YouTube that went, "See what Blair, Tootie, Natalie, and Molly have to teach Mrs. Garrett about the facts of love, on The Facts of Life!". And Molly claims that she was originally going to be kept on. Well, if they highlighted her in that promo because the producers were at that point behind keeping Molly, then perhaps after filming MH they said, "Let's hold this off until near the end of the season, to really showcase her before the season finale since she'll still be here next year."

Who knows?

That's had me wondering for a while now about that theory that Retro alerted us to, that perhaps Molly was in the "running" (ha) to be kept on? He showed us that FOL promo on YouTube that went, "See what Blair, Tootie, Natalie, and Molly have to teach Mrs. Garrett about the facts of love, on The Facts of Life!". And Molly claims that she was originally going to be kept on. Well, if they highlighted her in that promo because the producers were at that point behind keeping Molly, then perhaps after filming MH they said, "Let's hold this off until near the end of the season, to really showcase her before the season finale since she'll still be here next year."

Who knows?

Its possible thats what they were thinking. Its so weird that they have them going on break, when I first saw it I assumed it was the finale (N@N didn't air Dope so it was the last to air in the cycle) but it makes more sense as a spring vacation really.

Its possible thats what they were thinking. Its so weird that they have them going on break, when I first saw it I assumed it was the finale (N@N didn't air Dope so it was the last to air in the cycle) but it makes more sense as a spring vacation really.

Oh that's right, you were "Dope"less in your first exposure to the show! Wow, I can't imagine that...it was such a BIG DEAL to see that as a little boy! :eek: lol

Oh that's right, you were "Dope"less in your first exposure to the show! Wow, I can't imagine that...it was such a BIG DEAL to see that as a little boy! :eek: lol

I missed quite a few season 1 eps! I never saw Overachieving, Dieting, Flashflood, Running, or Dope!

:eek2:

Dude, you missed almost HALF the first season! lol

LOL I know, right? But I used to look at the episode list on nick@nites website and hope I would get to see them someday.

Oh, poor little Lorsie... :baby:

And now, you have! :clap:

Yes I have! NOW Ive seen all of seasons 2-5 as well!

^---That's right! I remember it being controversial that N@N wouldn't air "Breaking Point", either!

Wow, how ironic that this show even had an episode about banning media, eh? "Read No Evil"

a.k.a.:

":read: :nonono: :devil:"

lol

^---That's right! I remember it being controversial that N@N wouldn't air "Breaking Point", either!

Wow, how ironic that this show even had an episode about banning media, eh? "Read No Evil"

a.k.a.:

":read: :nonono: :devil:"

lol

Yeah I hadn’t seen that one either. The only ones I remember watching with the lost girls on nick were the season 2 episodes and TLC.

":read: :nonono: :devil:"



Eights, you are becoming quite the expert at well-crafted sentences using nothing but emoticons!

Or, how should I say that in your language? Oh, right:

:clap

Yeah I hadn’t seen that one either. The only ones I remember watching with the lost girls on nick were the season 2 episodes and TLC.
OMG, you poor, deprived guy! But things are better, now that you've seen all the Eastland episodes, and many of the Edibles episodes, too. :grouphug:

Eights, you are becoming quite the expert at well-crafted sentences using nothing but emoticons!

Or, how should I say that in your language? Oh, right:

:clap

Lol, thanks, though it's because of S.O.'s vast library that we're able to delve into it so! lol

(but I still can't believe they don't have a "Sh!" emoticon! lol)

So it turns out (Lorsie), Monica didn't yell at Geri that intensely, lol. But she did snap a bit there, and she snapped at Blair in the hotel room. But it's like when Evie snapped at Natalie: I understand the circumstances, and it helps that they are immediately remorseful and apologize. It's only because of the extremely sensitive situations they were in which caused them to snap.

And who knows, Geri may have appreciated Monica treating her just like any other member of the family, and not giving her "special treatment".

So it turns out (Lorsie), Monica didn't yell at Geri that intensely, lol. But she did snap a bit there, and she snapped at Blair in the hotel room. But it's like when Evie snapped at Natalie: I understand the circumstances, and it helps that they are immediately remorseful and apologize. It's only because of the extremely sensitive situations they were in which caused them to snap.

And who knows, Geri may have appreciated Monica treating her just like any other member of the family, and not giving her "special treatment".

I guess it just seemed more intense to me but you’re right. I’m sure Geri was a little shaken at first but appreciated getting a real response and not a sugarcoated one.

Jo's parents were awesome. I like Blair's mother #2 but I'm biased because I think Marj Dusay is a great actress. Her father was alright. Natalie's parents are boring. Tootie's mom was funny. It's a shame she wasn't in more episodes. I didn't care for her father though.

Jo's parents were awesome.

I agree. There's so much to like about both Rose and Charlie... just not together.

I like Blair's mother #2 but I'm biased because I think Marj Dusay is a great actress.

She definitely is a great actress. But Monica #2 seems abusive to Blair, IMO. I don't really like her character.


Natalie's parents are boring.

Maybe not her affair-having father, but her mother, for sure.

Tootie's mom was funny. It's a shame she wasn't in more episodes. I didn't care for her father though.

It's funny because Tootie's mom is also Kim Fields' mom. I wish we would have seen Tootie's "Aunt Pat"! :lol:

You didn't mention Molly's father or Nina's father!

Lol, thanks, though it's because of S.O.'s vast library that we're able to delve into it so! lol

(but I still can't believe they don't have a "Sh!" emoticon! lol)

Sure they do!

:nonono::gossip

or the "cork it" emoticon:

:baby:

...just have to get creative!

Natalie's parents are boring.

Maybe not her affair-having father, but her mother, for sure.

Nope, not at all. No one sees Evie's snapped reaction coming in "Mommie Dearest", so that alone makes her interesting.

She definitely is a great actress. But Monica #2 seems abusive to Blair, IMO. I don't really like her character.


You didn't mention Molly's father or Nina's father!


I agree she was snappy in "A Friend in Deed" but she needed to be. I wouldn't have bought the episode story if she wasn't angry. I don't understand why it was a standalone storyline and not a continuation later on for Blair. The other time she was snappy was "A New Life" and that was believable too. The episodes she's really tough in were storylines the character needed reaction to. Cancer is ******** and I don't know what women in the middle age actually feel when pregnant, but I'm sure anger or despair are some of the feelings. My favorite Monica episode is "Sisters". She wasn't mean in that one and the way Natalie was acting about Jo and Blair being step sisters was funny.

I don't remember Nina's father. I do remember Molly's father. He was alright. The actor though will always be Mr. Brindle from Small Wonder to me.

or the "cork it" emoticon:

:baby:

...just have to get creative!

No thats his emoticon to call me a baby :lol: :crysoup::crybaby:

Nope, not at all. No one sees Evie's snapped reaction coming in "Mommie Dearest", so that alone makes her interesting.

I'll definitely have to re-watch to see.

I'll definitely have to re-watch to see.

Do it NOW! Run, don't WALK!!!!!

I agree she was snappy in "A Friend in Deed" but she needed to be. I wouldn't have bought the episode story if she wasn't angry. I don't understand why it was a standalone storyline and not a continuation later on for Blair. The other time she was snappy was "A New Life" and that was believable too. The episodes she's really tough in were storylines the character needed reaction to. Cancer is ******** and I don't know what women in the middle age actually feel when pregnant, but I'm sure anger or despair are some of the feelings.

I don't disagree with your assessment, but I also feel like there was a repeated pattern of abuse: Monica would waltz into Blair's life, demand help, and then exit stage left, only to do the same thing a year later.


My favorite Monica episode is "Sisters". She wasn't mean in that one and the way Natalie was acting about Jo and Blair being step sisters was funny.

I don't recall most of the sixth season episodes very well, and need to re-watch them.


I don't remember Nina's father. I do remember Molly's father. He was alright. The actor though will always be Mr. Brindle from Small Wonder to me.

Ah, yes, Brendan Brindle. Never knew that was the same guy. Funny how he had another red-haired daughter! :lol:

Is Mr. Brindle the main dad or a minor char? I never watched SW, I was shocked to find out it even existed a few years ago!

Mr. Brindle (who was annoying) wasn't in every episode, but I seem to recall he was in quite a few.

And I think Blair's mother was fine. She tried to hide her condition from her daughter to spare her worrying and thought she was doing the right thing, and then next we saw her she came to her daughter's graduation---which is more than Mr. Warner did.

Well, I had a hunch, and I was right---the actor who played Justin Branch, Donald May, was also an army sgt. in a 1987 episode of "Mama's Family" called "Buck Private Bubba". Funny how he plays "ladies' man" on FOL :grineyes: , but plays goofy on MF :cuckoo

But when he was Justin Branch on FOL---if IMDB has his birth date right, he was 52! :eek:

Well, I had a hunch, and I was right---the actor who played Justin Branch, Donald May, was also an army sgt. in a 1987 episode of "Mama's Family" called "Buck Private Bubba". Funny how he plays "ladies' man" on FOL :grineyes: , but plays goofy on MF :cuckoo

But when he was Justin Branch on FOL---if IMDB has his birth date right, he was 52! :eek:

:lookaroun:rofl:

Is Mr. Brindle the main dad or a minor char? I never watched SW, I was shocked to find out it even existed a few years ago!

:lol:

Small Wonder is one of the strangest sitcoms of the 1980s: a show where the father invents a life-like robot, which they raise as their "daughter", but keep her in a closet when they're not making her do the housework.

It was Metromedia's last big hit before they were bought out by 20th Century Fox, to become the Fox Network, so it occupies a unique moment in TV history. The writing and acting were dreadful, but it proved there was definitely a market for sitcoms that didn't originate on ABC, CBS, or NBC.

Well, I had a hunch, and I was right---the actor who played Justin Branch, Donald May, was also an army sgt. in a 1987 episode of "Mama's Family" called "Buck Private Bubba". Funny how he plays "ladies' man" on FOL :grineyes: , but plays goofy on MF :cuckoo

But when he was Justin Branch on FOL---if IMDB has his birth date right, he was 52! :eek:

Wow, 52! I would not have guessed that.

:lol:

Small Wonder is one of the strangest sitcoms of the 1980s: a show where the father invents a life-like robot, which they raise as their "daughter", but keep her in a closet when they're not making her do the housework.

It was Metromedia's last big hit before they were bought out by 20th Century Fox, to become the Fox Network, so it occupies a unique moment in TV history. The writing and acting were dreadful, but it proved there was definitely a market for sitcoms that didn't originate on ABC, CBS, or NBC.

what network was it on?

what network was it on?

IIRC, it wasn't; it was syndicated.

what network was it on?
'80s is right: it was syndicated, in this case by Metromedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metromedia), the predecessor of Fox (and a descendant of the DuMont Network).

'80s is right: it was syndicated, in this case by Metromedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metromedia), the predecessor of Fox (and a descendant of the DuMont Network).

Ohhhh interesting! I didn't know there was a "predecessor" to Fox!

Ohhhh interesting! I didn't know there was a "predecessor" to Fox!

Yep. Metromedia produced many shows at their facilities at Metromedia Square. Some of these shows they then sold to any station that would air them (the syndication model), and others they produced for NBC, CBS, and ABC. Among the shows they produced for NBC were some TV programs I'm fairly sure you're familiar with: Diff'rent Strokes, The Facts of Life, and many others.

Wow I had no clue!

Now that jingle is stuck in my head... "Metro. Media. Television. Eleven. Eleven. Eleven."

Now that jingle is stuck in my head... "Metro. Media. Television. Eleven. Eleven. Eleven."

:lol:

There was a "19" version (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEzxZqiAXXY), too, for the Cincinnati station. After the buy-out by Fox, Metromedia's logo became this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1W7ubZ7QAU). It was actually named MVP Video Productions, which stood for... Metromedia Video Productions Video Productions. :lol:

:lol:

There was a "19" version (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEzxZqiAXXY), too, for the Cincinnati station. After the buy-out by Fox, Metromedia's logo became this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1W7ubZ7QAU). It was actually named MVP Video Productions, which stood for... Metromedia Video Productions Video Productions. :lol:

Hmm not quite as funky as MMT

I don't disagree with your assessment, but I also feel like there was a repeated pattern of abuse: Monica would waltz into Blair's life, demand help, and then exit stage left, only to do the same thing a year later.



I don't recall most of the sixth season episodes very well, and need to re-watch them.



Ah, yes, Brendan Brindle. Never knew that was the same guy. Funny how he had another red-haired daughter! :lol:


I see what you're saying with Blair's mother. I don't think every time she came around she was a bad mother. Sometimes parents need help too. It wasn't just Monica that was a bad parent to Blair. David was also a crappy father. Blair's visits with him were tax write offs. She didn't have a great support system in her home life so that's why I always understood why she wanted to stay with Mrs. Garrett and the girls even after high school was over. That was her first real experience of what a family was like. Some don't understand how rare that is for a few people in this world.


I hope you have the DVD collection to see season 6 uncut, or at least more additional scenes than what syndication shown. I'm not entirely convince the season 6 DVD set is uncut. Bus Stop is still missing some scenes.


Yep, he'll always be Harriett's father to me. He wasn't a series regular on Small Wonder, but when he would appear, he was very funny. Sad Shout Factory couldn't release the remaining two seasons. So many great episodes I'll never get to see again.

I see what you're saying with Blair's mother. I don't think every time she came around she was a bad mother. Sometimes parents need help too. It wasn't just Monica that was a bad parent to Blair. David was also a crappy father. Blair's visits with him were tax write offs. She didn't have a great support system in her home life so that's why I always understood why she wanted to stay with Mrs. Garrett and the girls even after high school was over. That was her first real experience of what a family was like. Some don't understand how rare that is for a few people in this world.

I definitely feel like Mrs. Garrett was a better mother to Blair than Blair's real mother (either one of them). And as you say, David using Blair as a tax write-off was horrible.

Sure, parents can need help, too, but we didn't see Monica or David often enough for them to feel like Blair's family: just people who showed up to dump their problems on Blair.

I don't feel that way about Charlie and Rose; maybe because we saw them more often (11+6 for Charlie and Rose vs. 9+5 for Monica and David), or because more depth was given to Charlie and Rose, or their characters were just given storylines that made me feel for them in a way that didn't come across as well for the uber-rich Warners. I wanted Rose to be able to keep sending Jo to Eastland. I wanted Charlie to clean up his act for the sake of his daughter. But I wanted Blair's parents to stop treating her like a tax write-off, or someone to complain to about their ex-spouse.


I hope you have the DVD collection to see season 6 uncut, or at least more additional scenes than what syndication shown. I'm not entirely convince the season 6 DVD set is uncut. Bus Stop is still missing some scenes.

I only own the first four seasons on DVD, but am considering getting Seasons 5 and 6 on DVD eventually, once work settles down a bit.


Yep, he'll always be Harriett's father to me. He wasn't a series regular on Small Wonder, but when he would appear, he was very funny. Sad Shout Factory couldn't release the remaining two seasons. So many great episodes I'll never get to see again.

I see many episodes are on YouTube and other streaming sites, if that helps.

I feel Blair's mom is pretty much like most of the other parents. We still saw her more than Evie or Diane or any of the dads. Then again, when we see them is dependent on what stories the writers want to show us.

Perhaps no coincidence that the new girl brought in from crying on a commercial got to have her parents on the most, hmmmm...

Perhaps no coincidence that the new girl brought in from crying on a commercial got to have her parents on the most, hmmmm...


Well Alex and Nancy had the best chemistry of father / daughter than any of the other girls with the actors playing their father. Charlie was also a likable character. There was depth to the character of Charlie. I'm glad he was around a lot. I enjoy most of his episodes.

I feel Blair's mom is pretty much like most of the other parents. We still saw her more than Evie or Diane or any of the dads.

Any of the dads except Charlie, that's true. But she only visited three times during the Eastland years. That works out to less than once per year, and that's even including her pre-facelift episode. Yet she only lived 45 minutes away in Manhattan. Contrast this with Tootie's parents, who lived far away in DC.


Perhaps no coincidence that the new girl brought in from crying on a commercial got to have her parents on the most, hmmmm...

True. And we even see Rose's apartment.

Well Alex and Nancy had the best chemistry of father / daughter than any of the other girls with the actors playing their father. Charlie was also a likable character. There was depth to the character of Charlie. I'm glad he was around a lot. I enjoy most of his episodes.

They definitely did have a great chemistry between them. My understanding is that when Nancy McKeon needed a father on The Division, they asked Alex Rocco to play her dad because their chemistry had always just been great.

They definitely did have a great chemistry between them. My understanding is that when Nancy McKeon needed a father on The Division, they asked Alex Rocco to play her dad because their chemistry had always just been great.

More than just that. He played her father on her show Can't Hurry Love and in a TV more she did about the mafia. She said in the Paley festival they're in a trivia game on one of the questions about who has played father / daughter in more than two series. She considers him her father. That's why it puzzled me she didn't say anything about his passing in 2015.

More than just that. He played her father on her show Can't Hurry Love and in a TV more she did about the mafia. She said in the Paley festival they're in a trivia game on one of the questions about who has played father / daughter in more than two series.

I didn't remember that about CHL; thanks for the info.


She considers him her father. That's why it puzzled me she didn't say anything about his passing in 2015.

People handle grief in their own way. She didn't attend Charlotte Rae's memorial, unlike Mindy, Kim, Julie, and Mackenzie. She's very private.

Well even though she was recast we technically see Blair's mom first of any parent.

Any of the dads except Charlie, that's true. But she only visited three times during the Eastland years. That works out to less than once per year, and that's even including her pre-facelift episode. Yet she only lived 45 minutes away in Manhattan.

Well Natalie's parents were in NY as well. The parental visits always seemed pretty rare, even in the Eastland years; memorable, for sure (for the most part), but rare. I can only think of Charlie appearing three times off the top of my head (counting "Graduation" as once, since it was a single story over two episodes). As a kid I always wondered how the parents felt about seeing their kids so infrequently (granted, it was a private/boarding school, though).

You seem to really have a deep-seated issue with Monica Warner. I wanna get you two together over an Edna Garrett dinner in the cafeteria and talk things over, lol:

Before:

:argue:

After:

:cheers:

(Lorsie will even serve)

Well Natalie's parents were in NY as well. The parental visits always seemed pretty rare, even in the Eastland years; memorable, for sure (for the most part), but rare. I can only think of Charlie appearing three times off the top of my head (counting "Graduation" as once, since it was a single story over two episodes). As a kid I always wondered how the parents felt about seeing there kids so infrequently (granted, it was a private/boarding school, though).

You seem to really have a deep-seated issue with Monica Warner. I wanna get you two together over an Edna Garrett dinner in the cafeteria and talk things over, lol:

Before:

:argue:

After:

:cheers:

(Lorsie will even serve)

Did Retro delete his comment you quoted or am I missing something?

Did Retro delete his comment you quoted or am I missing something?

You are missing something. :) The post is still there (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showpost.php?p=5474022&postcount=131).

You are missing something. :) The post is still there (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showpost.php?p=5474022&postcount=131).

Haha whoops! Thanks.

Well Natalie's parents were in NY as well.

Yep. Another reason to not like them.

The parental visits always seemed pretty rare, even in the Eastland years; memorable, for sure (for the most part), but rare. I can only think of Charlie appearing three times off the top of my head (counting "Graduation" as once, since it was a single story over two episodes).

But Jo only attended Eastland for three years. Blair attended Eastland for six or seven years.


You seem to really have a deep-seated issue with Monica Warner. I wanna get you two together over an Edna Garrett dinner in the cafeteria and talk things over, lol:

Why? So she can slap me?

:schmack:

Or yell at me?
:cuss:

Or use me as a tax write-off?

:typing::dollar::dollar:

Or ditch me during Parents' Night so she can be with a married man?

:grineyes::eyes:

Or make me babysit her baby?

:baby:

Or blame me for her cancer diagnosis?

:fart:

Or talk bad about my father?

:livid:

No thanks! I'll have dinner with Charlie and Rose instead.

:cheers::liplick:

Yep. Another reason to not like them.



But Jo only attended Eastland for three years. Blair attended Eastland for six or seven years.



Why? So she can slap me?

:schmack:

Or yell at me?
:cuss:

Or use me as a tax write-off?

:typing::dollar::dollar:

Or ditch me during Parents' Night so she can be with a married man?

:grineyes::eyes:

Or make me babysit her baby?

:baby:

Or blame me for her cancer diagnosis?

:fart:

Or talk bad about my father?

:livid:

No thanks! I'll have dinner with Charlie and Rose instead.

:cheers::liplick:

Wow Monica was a jerk when you think of it like that

Yep. Another reason to not like them.

Charlie and Rose didn't visit that much more. It's a boarding school. None of the parents visit that much, and I wouldn't expect them to. In LMLD Mrs. Garrett even says "It's not every parent who came up here to see her daughter on Parents' Night" (paraphrasing, if not verbatim), making it sound like a rare time when parents would come to visit.


But Jo only attended Eastland for three years. Blair attended Eastland for six or seven years.

But we didn't see those years (but I wish we had gotten to!).


Why? So she can slap me?

:schmack:

Now that was all Prototype Monica! :lol:


Or yell at me?

Well, most of them did at one point, and that's only natural.


Or use me as a tax write-off?

:typing::dollar::dollar:

Haha, but that was her dad. I definitely never said he was Father of the Year, lol.


Or ditch me during Parents' Night so she can be with a married man?

:grineyes::eyes:

More "Proto", lol.


Or make me babysit her baby?

:baby:

Haha...I don't watch those later seasons as much (indeed, you don't even have them! lol) I dislike that whole pregnancy storyline with Monica. I wish they had never written her having another baby.


Or blame me for her cancer diagnosis?
:fart:

:eek: She didn't do that.


Or talk bad about my father?

Well, yes, if he's distant and doesn't attend your graduation! Even Lorsie attended your graduation! And even Charlie and Rose fought in front of Jo.


No thanks! I'll have dinner with Charlie and Rose instead.

Sorry. They're eating with me right now. ;)

Actually, I'm surprised. I had no idea until this thread that you actively disliked any of the parents. I think that's kind of sad, because as a child, I always thought it was such a fun part of the show when they would show up at the school. I loved how not only were their children glad to see them, but their children's friends were glad to see them (except Tootie and Natalie's dads). That made it all seem even more family-oriented with the girls.

Wow Monica was a jerk when you think of it like that
YEP. Exactly.

Wow Monica was a jerk when you think of it like that

Then don't think of it like that. Look at my remarks. ;)

(I have more problems with Prototype Monica)

Btw Retro, I believe the term 'prototype' was all Eights.Hey, you came up with the 'Prototype' designation. I just use it where appropriate. :lol:

Then don't think of it like that. Look at my remarks. ;)

(I have more problems with Prototype Monica)

OK but some was accurate

Charlie and Rose didn't visit that much more.

Charlie and Rose are broke. Charlie's so desperate to provide for his family that he resorts to stealing. Rose is so broke that she takes extra shifts at work to help Jo get through school. For them, even the gas money to get up to Peekskill is a challenge. And yet, the pair of them are seen the most frequently in Peekskill.

Monica and David have all the money and resources in the world. If they wanted to, they could visit every month. But they don't. Sure, David's at work. But Monica doesn't even have a job, that I'm aware of, outside of painting, which she seems to do as a hobby.

In LMLD Mrs. Garrett even says "It's not every parent who came up here to see her daughter on Parents' Night" (paraphrasing, if not verbatim), making it sound like a rare time when parents would come to visit.

Even Molly's mom and dad came, when they were needed.


But we didn't see those years (but I wish we had gotten to!).

When Blair accepted her Harvest Queen awards, I'm willing to bet she did it alone, without her parents there to cheer her on. She says it herself: Molly's parents care more for Molly than Blair's parents care for Blair.


Haha...I don't watch those later seasons as much (indeed, you don't even have them! lol) I dislike that whole pregnancy storyline with Monica. I wish they had never written her having another baby.


No, but I've seen them. And Monica is no better in them than when she was snapping at a girl with Cerebral Palsy, or coming up to Eastland just to take off with a married man and slap her daughter for objecting.


Sorry. They're eating with me right now. ;)

See? Even you'd prefer to eat with Charlie and Rose over Monica and David! :lol:


Actually, I'm surprised. I had no idea until this thread that you actively disliked any of the parents. I think that's kind of sad, because as a child, I always thought it was such a fun part of the show when they would show up at the school. I loved how not only were their children glad to see them, but their children's friends were glad to see them (except Tootie and Natalie's dads). That made it all seem even more family-oriented with the girls.

Blair says it herself: her mother treats her more like a shopping friend than a daughter.

OK but some was accurate

I always assumed "Facts" fans enjoyed seeing the parents pop up*. But Retro has burst that balloon for me, lol.

*(with perhaps the exception of Dr. Green---it was neat getting to see him, but we didn't like why we saw him---we didn't get a chance to enjoy him first, lol)

Even Molly's mom and dad came, when they were needed.



ALLEGEDLY. We never find out if her mom actually came up there, even if she was supposed to in the original script.

Monica and David have all the money and resources in the world. If they wanted to, they could visit every month.

But they shouldn't, should they? I would think parents wouldn't be encouraged to visit a private/boarding school except for rare/special occasions. Maybe on a weekend though.


Even Molly's mom and dad came, when they were needed.

Well her dad was picking her up for spring break, and they lived only about 15 or 20 minutes away (since Molly's mom was on her way there while Dr. Parker was there).


When Blair accepted her Harvest Queen awards, I'm willing to bet she did it alone, without her parents there to cheer her on. She says it herself: Molly's parents care more for Molly than Blair's parents care for Blair.

Well, she said that about her dad(s). Blair speaks fondly of her mother.


No, but I've seen them. And Monica is no better in them than when she was snapping at a girl with Cerebral Palsy, or coming up to Eastland just to take off with a married man and slap her daughter for objecting.

Geri is her niece, and she doesn't give her special treatment. And like Christopher, I can certainly understand her snapping given her extreme situation. I wouldn't hold that against anyone (if it's someone in your family). And I actually like seeing her not being sugar-coating with Geri, but treating her indeed like family, since she is, "different" or not. It's very real, which this show often tried to be.


See? Even you'd prefer to eat with Charlie and Rose over Monica and David! :lol:

Not really, I was just getting your goat. ;) I'd actually enjoy dinner with any of them.


Blair says it herself: her mother treats her more like a shopping friend than a daughter.

Actually she doesn't say daughter, I think she says they're more shopping "something" (cohorts, acquaintances), "but we're not friends". Because then Monica says, "Friends, huh? Okay...[nervous sigh from her situation]...so how should we start?" So she's ready to try. :)

ALLEGEDLY. We never find out if her mom actually came up there, even if she was supposed to in the original script.

Well her mom was on her way, but they lived nearby.

Well her mom was on her way, but they lived nearby.

She sure took her sweet time... ;)

She sure took her sweet time... ;)

Yet another script problem, lol. From how they talked, she should have been there already!

Guess the actress they hired had to cancel

Well they could have grabbed somebody else---I guess it was just a change in the final script.

They should've had the ultimate plot twist- Mollys mother was Miss Mahoney the whole time!!!!

:uplol:

"Molly Mahoney", lol

:uplol:

"Molly Mahoney", lol

"Woman don't have to take their husbands last names Eighties, stop being so regressive!"

"Woman don't have to take their husbands last names Eighties, stop being so regressive!"

:rofl:

Mr. Ramsey has a first name!! :eek: It's revealed in "Let's Party" when Tootie's brother Marshall visits!

Tootie: [on hotel room telephone] "Hello, I'd like to make a collect call to Washington, D.C., person to person. To a Mr. Harrison Ramsey."

Harrison! His first name is Harrison!

Mr. Ramsey has a first name!! :eek: It's revealed in "Let's Party" when Tootie's brother Marshall visits!

Tootie: [on hotel room telephone] "Hello, I'd like to make a collect call to Washington, D.C., person to person. To a Mr. Harrison Ramsey."

Harrison! His first name is Harrison!
Nice catch! Harrison "Buffalo" "Rifle" Ramsey!

Nice catch! Harrison "Buffalo" "Rifle" Ramsey!Haha, now he has "7, 8" different names!

So, Retro, since hardly any guys at all are named "Harrison", I guess it won't surprise you that two male characters on FOL were named Harrison! Tootie's dad, and Blair's sleazo friend who took Jo "through" the club at the cotillion!

Haha, now he has "7, 8" different names!

So, Retro, since hardly any guys at all are named "Harrison", I guess it won't surprise you that two male characters on FOL were named Harrison! Tootie's dad, and Blair's sleazo friend who took Jo "through" the club at the cotillion!

Yeah, you're right: that slimeball!

Dr. Green has a first name, too! This completes all the parents' names!

Sy! Dr. Sy Green! His name is revealed in season 5's "A Death in the Family".

(I wonder if the actor saw that episode at home and thought, "Well, there's a show I'll never be on again", lol)

Dr. Green has a first name, too! This completes all the parents' names!

Sy! Dr. Sy Green! His name is revealed in season 5's "A Death in the Family".

(I wonder if the actor saw that episode at home and thought, "Well, there's a show I'll never be on again", lol)

You might say he said it with a "sigh"? ;)

You might say he said it with a "sigh"? ;)
Ahhhhh,hahaha! I see what ya did there! :rofl:

I just love it when Mrs. Garrett coaches not only her girls in life, but their parents as well. :) Trying to get Charlie not to run away but to force Jo to talk to him, encouraging Diane to communicate better with Tootie by digging with better questions...so sweet :)

And did you ever notice, all the male parents call her "Mrs. Garrett", but all the female parents call her "Edna"? Interesting...I don't know that Charlie never called her "Edna" in his several appearances, but that seems to be the basic "rule".

I love the parental appearances on this show. It's always given the show that "extended family" feel outside their daily school family. :)

I just love it when Mrs. Garrett coaches not only her girls in life, but their parents as well. :) Trying to get Charlie not to run away but to force Jo to talk to him, encouraging Diane to communicate better with Tootie by digging with better questions...so sweet :)

And did you ever notice, all the male parents call her "Mrs. Garrett", but all the female parents call her "Edna"? Interesting...I don't know that Charlie never called her "Edna" in his several appearances, but that seems to be the basic "rule".

I love the parental appearances on this show. It's always given the show that "extended family" feel outside their daily school family. :)

Yes too bad Molly’s dad wasn’t. That’s very interesting! I hadn’t noticed the men calling her Mrs G.

I love the parental appearances on this show. It's always given the show that "extended family" feel outside their daily school family. :)

I definitely feel that way about Charlie and Rose. They seemed the most fleshed-out and empathetic of the parents.

Too bad we didn't see Molly's parents a little more.

I liked Tootie's mom, Joe's dad, and Blair's mother and father.

I liked CHARLIE and MONICA best: i really think those two would have made a great couple!!!! (they hit it well on the 'sisters' episode).

I know MRS G was more of a mother figure to BLAIR, but MONICA always cracked me up with the way she held herself and had her 'brilliant ideas' like her daughter!!!!

And out of all the parents, i felt that MRS G bonded better with MONICA than the other mothers! (they seemed to have those 'heart to heart' talks).

I liked Jo's dad (he seems to be a really cool parent to hang out with).

I liked Tootie's Mom for the same reasons and the other girls liked her too in that episode "Mother and Daughter". I liked the fact that Tootie's parents were black lawyers on tv at the time and they weren't a negative racial stereotype.

I didn't relate to Blair's parents nor cared about them at all.

Natalie's parents were just boring.

I liked Jo's dad (he seems to be a really cool parent to hang out with).

I liked Tootie's Mom for the same reasons and the other girls liked her too in that episode "Mother and Daughter". I liked the fact that Tootie's parents were black lawyers on tv at the time and they weren't a negative racial stereotype.

I didn't relate to Blair's parents nor cared about them at all.

Natalie's parents were just boring.





I didn't care for DAVID WARNER either, but MONICA was fun.

NATALIE's dad was the boring one: her mother on the other hand had a great chemistry with her, and she was very caring.

JO's parents were both great.

TOOTIE's mum was funny, but her dad was a rather stern man lol!!!!!

:bouncers:bouncers:bouncers:bouncers:bouncers:bouncers:bouncers:bouncers

Miko's dad was left off the list.

Miko's dad was left off the list.

I can see your point, but I was sticking to the main cast members. The ones who were series regulars.

I can see your point, but I was sticking to the main cast members. The ones who were series regulars.

Nina's dad is listed and we never got any confirmation if we even saw Nina.

Nina's dad is listed and we never got any confirmation if we even saw Nina.

Oh! Touché! You got me there. :lol:

Well, when I made this poll, I hadn't seen TAoM in a couple of years. But Nina had been a hot topic around here before then, and it's fascinating that we meet a girl's parent without meeting the girl! lol.

Okay, so I guess if I could, I'd go add Mr. Wakamatsu in. That's the trouble with polls though, once they're published, that's it. No editing. :( :mad:

Tootie is the only one of the four girls whose childhood was not marred by death or divorce.

Tootie is the only one of the four girls whose childhood was not marred by death or divorce.

That’s true! If you include the lost girls Nancy and Sue Ann werent either.

Tootie is the only one of the four girls whose childhood was not marred by death or divorce.

But we never seen her parents together which indicated that they led completely separate lives.

I wonder why Tootie's father appeared only in one episode.
Anyway, I like Mr. Polniaczeck and Mrs. Warner (played by Marj Dusay, of course).

I wonder why Tootie's father appeared only in one episode.


It's weird. But it's not like Tootie's mom appeared frequently, either, though: two episodes in nine seasons.

We really don't know anything about Nancy O's parents. She does seem to be the least developed character of the Elite Eight.

There were hints that Cindy was being raised by a single father. There were lots of story lines they could have developed with that.

There were hints that Cindy was being raised by a single father. There were lots of story lines they could have developed with that.

Not so "single" once he married a girl young enough to be his daughter! :eek:

We really don't know anything about Nancy O's parents. She does seem to be the least developed character of the Elite Eight.


Well, we know Nancy's father didn't approve of her having sex. And we know her parents could afford to send their daughter to Eastland, until her father lost his job. We also see her family tree, with her parents pictured.

Okay, not much, but it's something. :lol:

It's weird. But it's not like Tootie's mom appeared frequently, either, though: two episodes in nine seasons.

It's weird she first appeared in season 5, five years after the show's premiere :confused:

Why do these "parents" even bother having kids if they're just gonna throw them in a boarding school? What's the point? Talk about lazy and negligent.

Why do these "parents" even bother having kids if they're just gonna throw them in a boarding school? What's the point? Talk about lazy and negligent.

It's to give their kids a better education and teach independence.

It's weird she first appeared in season 5, five years after the show's premiere :confused:

Yeah. That's a loooonggg time not to see a character.

Why do these "parents" even bother having kids if they're just gonna throw them in a boarding school? What's the point? Talk about lazy and negligent.

I never felt Rose and Charlie were negligent: we saw them often. But Tootie's parents are good examples of neglectful parents. The only times we see them, they're demanding. And we see them quite infrequently: Tootie's dad once; her mom twice... in nine years!

Why parents send their kids to boarding schools.
https://parenting.firstcry.com/articles/advantages-and-disadvantages-of-boarding-school/

It's to give their kids a better education and teach independence.

And they get to miss out on their entire childhood in the process! Brilliant! BTW, they could send their children to PRIVATE schools for a "better education." Private school, not boarding school where the kids get raised by other people and are all but completely out of their parent's lives. These are selfish, neglectful "parents." No kid has to go to boarding school for a better education or independence. That's just an excuse. If the "parents" wanted to give their kids a better education while being active in their day to day lives, they would send them to a PRIVATE school!

And they get to miss out on their entire childhood in the process! Brilliant! BTW, they could send their children to PRIVATE schools for a "better education." Private school, not boarding school where the kids get raised by other people and are all but completely out of their parent's lives. These are selfish, neglectful "parents." No kid has to go to boarding school for a better education or independence. That's just an excuse. If the "parents" wanted to give their kids a better education while being active in their day to day lives, they would send them to a PRIVATE school!

How many people do you know that went to boarding schools?

I never felt Rose and Charlie were negligent: we saw them often. But Tootie's parents are good examples of neglectful parents. The only times we see them, they're demanding. And we see them quite infrequently: Tootie's dad once; her mom twice... in nine years!

Charlie never had any say about Jo attending boarding school. As for Rose, she used the excuse that she wanted to give Jo a better education and get her out of the Bronx, but in the "Teenage Marriage" episode, we learn it was all a lie. Rose got rid of Jo so she could have her boyfriend move in. Selfish witch! Even Blair tells Jo: "that was a scuzzy thing your mom did." And when Natalie went to visit her mom in the city in that adoption episode, she told her mom: "Don't worry, MRS. GARRETT said it's okay." These girls were all being raised by Mrs. Garrett and school staff, not their "parents." Their so called parents are too busy being selfish, lazy and neglectful. Another example is the episode where Monica Warner is sick and Blair says to her mother that their relationship is more like FRIENDS and not mother/daughter. None of these adults are parents. They are just egg and or sperm donors.

How many people do you know that went to boarding schools?

Probably as many as you do. And FYI, nothing I said is untrue.

Probably as many as you do. And FYI, nothing I said is untrue.

So how many people do you know went to a boarding school? My father worked at one.

Charlie never had any say about Jo attending boarding school. As for Rose, she used the excuse that she wanted to give Jo a better education and get her out of the Bronx, but in the "Teenage Marriage" episode, we learn it was all a lie. Rose got rid of Jo so she could have her boyfriend move in. Selfish witch! Even Blair tells Jo: "that was a scuzzy thing your mom did." And when Natalie went to visit her mom in the city in that adoption episode, she told her mom: "Don't worry, MRS. GARRETT said it's okay." These girls were all being raised by Mrs. Garrett and school staff, not their "parents." Their so called parents are too busy being selfish, lazy and neglectful. Another example is the episode where Monica Warner is sick and Blair says to her mother that their relationship is more like FRIENDS and not mother/daughter. None of these adults are parents. They are just egg and or sperm donors.

At least 3 of the girls went to real boarding schools (Felice, Mindy, and Molly). They all turned out OK.

So how many people do you know went to a boarding school? My father worked at one.

Firstly, I already answered you. Secondly, it does not matter because everything I said is true.

Charlie never had any say about Jo attending boarding school. As for Rose, she used the excuse that she wanted to give Jo a better education and get her out of the Bronx, but in the "Teenage Marriage" episode, we learn it was all a lie. Rose got rid of Jo so she could have her boyfriend move in.

I think that was coming from cynical Jo's perspective. When we see Rose in later episodes, she no longer even has a boyfriend, so if Rose's motive was to keep Jo at Eastland because of a boyfriend, where's the motivation for her to keep her at Eastland after she and her boyfriend broke up?


Selfish witch! Even Blair tells Jo: "that was a scuzzy thing your mom did." And when Natalie went to visit her mom in the city in that adoption episode, she told her mom: "Don't worry, MRS. GARRETT said it's okay." These girls were all being raised by Mrs. Garrett and school staff, not their "parents."

It's only natural that at a boarding school, the staff would need to give permission to minors; otherwise, the staff would be on the phone with the parents every five minutes.


Their so called parents are too busy being selfish, lazy and neglectful. Another example is the episode where Monica Warner is sick and Blair says to her mother that their relationship is more like FRIENDS and not mother/daughter. None of these adults are parents. They are just egg and or sperm donors.

What's even worse is that when the parents do finally come to the school, they slap their daughters (Monica Warner), make demands like certain staff cannot speak to them (Rifle Ramsey), or just boss them around (Diane Ramsey).

I do feel as though Charlie and Rose are different: Rose entered Jo into Eastland because she wanted something better for her daughter. Rose was stuck in a situation where she would be a waitress, and she was being sexually harassed by her male customers. Back in that era, many men would pinch waitresses on the butt, and Jo reveals this is happening to Rose. Rose knows if Jo doesn't get a good education, Jo's chances for a career are minimal.

We actually see Rose and Charlie on a regular basis; not the single time we see Tootie's dad.

I think that was coming from cynical Jo's perspective. When we see Rose in later episodes, she no longer even has a boyfriend, so if Rose's motive was to keep Jo at Eastland because of a boyfriend, where's the motivation for her to keep her at Eastland after she and her boyfriend broke up?Because Jo was already settled at Eastland and to take her out after the breakup would only further prove Rose's calculated deception.

It's only natural that at a boarding school, the staff would need to give permission to minors; otherwise, the staff would be on the phone with the parents every five minutes.I know. That was my point. The school staff are the "parents."

What's even worse is that when the parents do finally come to the school, they slap their daughters (Monica Warner), make demands like certain staff cannot speak to them (Rifle Ramsey), or just boss them around (Diane Ramsey).I felt so bad for Blair when her trampy mom slapped her and humiliated her in front of all her classmates. I also hated her for practically forcing Blair to kiss her male friend by shaming her. That woman was such a tramp and lousy mother.

Charlie never had any say about Jo attending boarding school. As for Rose, she used the excuse that she wanted to give Jo a better education and get her out of the Bronx, but in the "Teenage Marriage" episode, we learn it was all a lie. Rose got rid of Jo so she could have her boyfriend move in. Selfish witch! Even Blair tells Jo: "that was a scuzzy thing your mom did." And when Natalie went to visit her mom in the city in that adoption episode, she told her mom: "Don't worry, MRS. GARRETT said it's okay." These girls were all being raised by Mrs. Garrett and school staff, not their "parents." Their so called parents are too busy being selfish, lazy and neglectful. Another example is the episode where Monica Warner is sick and Blair says to her mother that their relationship is more like FRIENDS and not mother/daughter. None of these adults are parents. They are just egg and or sperm donors.



All i can say, is that those girls were very lucky to have MRS G in their lives: the 'feisty red haired' had the biggest heart of all, and yes, she was definitely more of a mother figure to those girls (especially to BLAIR whose mother MONICA was more of a 'play pal'):grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug:

All i can say, is that those girls were very lucky to have MRS G in their lives: the 'feisty red haired' had the biggest heart of all, and yes, she was definitely more of a mother figure to those girls (especially to BLAIR whose mother MONICA was more of a 'play pal'):grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug:

Mrs. G. may have had some faults, but she was much more of a parent than any of those biological moms and dads. The girls were very lucky to have Mrs. G. in their lives. Mrs. G. also truly loved and cared for all of those girls. It was much more than a job for her.

Mrs. G. may have had some faults, but she was much more of a parent than any of those biological moms and dads. The girls were very lucky to have Mrs. G. in their lives. Mrs. G. also truly loved and cared for all of those girls. It was much more than a job for her.



Well said Wawwie: words spoken from the heart!!!!:heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:

Because Jo was already settled at Eastland and to take her out after the breakup would only further prove Rose's calculated deception.

So Rose kept Jo at Eastland, at great expense to herself, when she couldn't afford it, to hide her deception at putting Jo at Eastland because of her boyfriend? I don't believe that. I think Jo was bitter about being placed at Eastland, and blamed her mother and her mother's boyfriend, when the truth is what Mrs. Garrett says: that Jo was getting into trouble in the Bronx, and that Rose wanted her in a better place. There would have been no point in keeping Jo at Eastland, and then insisting she attend Langley, if it was all about Rose hiding her deception about why she placed Jo there in the first place. People don't work two jobs for seven years just to hide the truth that they didn't want their daughter anymore.


I know. That was my point. The school staff are the "parents."

I know you know, and that that was your point. I was agreeing with you.


I felt so bad for Blair when her trampy mom slapped her and humiliated her in front of all her classmates. I also hated her for practically forcing Blair to kiss her male friend by shaming her. That woman was such a tramp and lousy mother.

Prototype Monica definitely had a different feel to Second Monica. That kiss scene is soooo cringe-worthy, in retrospect.

Prototype Monica definitely had a different feel to Second Monica. That kiss scene is soooo cringe-worthy, in retrospect.
Very creepy and almost like child abuse.

Very creepy and almost like child abuse.

It definitely has a creepy feel to it. But in 1982-ish, when I first saw this episode, I would probably have disagreed with you. It was a different time.

One thing I just thought about was did they have Jo's mother be a waitress because Nancy M.'s brother TV mother was perhaps the most famous waitress in the 70s?

Was Molly's real parents lazy for sending her to boarding school? Her father was blind and out on the road a lot. Molly certainly has had the most successful and most enduring acting career of any of the Elite Eight.

Were Mindy's parents lazy for sending her to a boarding school? I don't know if Mindy was like Kimberly Drummond and went home on weekends? She graduated a year early?

Were Felice's parents lazy for sending her to boarding school? Her parents had busy lives with her father being a real estate developer and her mother being a well known actor agent, including all 3 daughters and Mindy. Felice ended up going to Brown University and developing programs for special needs students.

One thing I just thought about was did they have Jo's mother be a waitress because Nancy M.'s brother TV mother was perhaps the most famous waitress in the 70s?

Hmmmm!!! I never thought of that! Cool idea.

It definitely has a creepy feel to it. But in 1982-ish, when I first saw this episode, I would probably have disagreed with you. It was a different time.




I absolutely agree with you Retro!!!!!

Back in the 80 s it would have been perfectly normal to have a child kiss an old boyfriend on the cheek, as well as slap them in front of everyone (like MONICA did with BLAIR) but in today society you would be taking to the court!!!!:bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash: