Where does the show fit in with you in your love of television?

I'm all about inclusiveness and I felt bad about not having a casual/middle of the road choice, so here we go, all bases covered! lol

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I voted I enjoy the show this time.

Bumping a thread after 8 hours, really Eights? ;)

I voted I enjoy the show this time.

Wait, what---why? I mean, if that's true, that's fine, but I figured it was one of your favorite shows! lol


Bumping a thread after 8 hours, really Eights? ;)

Hahaha! Well, only because this is the RETOOLED poll (how's that, Retro? lol), and I want it to be above the other one since this one now has the "average" option. :)

Well it is a big fav but I have lots of 80s shows I loved. I consider shows 80s shows even if they were mainly in the 90s like Full House, Family Matters (first 4 seasons)

RETOOLED? Don't use that around the lost girls...

Well it is a big fav but I have lots of 80s shows I loved.

Oh wow, I didn't know that!


I consider shows 80s shows even if they were mainly in the 90s like Full House, Family Matters (first 4 seasons)

Wha---why would you do that? :lol:

Oh wow, I didn't know that!




Wha---why would you do that? :lol:

Because they start in the 80s! DUH! :cuckoo:D

Because they start in the 80s! DUH! :cuckoo:D

Hahaha! Well, just be careful which shows you do that with. "The Golden Girls" is definitely consider an '80s show, since 5/7ths of it was in the '80s, lol.

See, if they're mainly the the '90s, I call 'em '90s. :p

Hahaha! Well, just be careful which shows you do that with. "The Golden Girls" is definitely consider an '80s show, since 5/7ths of it was in the '80s, lol.

Haha I watched it a little bit because I was a Mamas Family fan so seeing 2 familiar actresses made me intrigued.

Haha I watched it a little bit because I was a Mamas Family fan so seeing 2 familiar actresses made me intrigued.

It is an unbelievably classic comedy. Maybe someday you'll find your way to Miami again. :)

It is an unbelievably classic comedy. Maybe someday you'll find your way to Miami again. :)

I actually go to Florida a few times a year.

....oh you meant... I see what you did there...

haha...and awesome that you get to go to Florida!

Hahaha! Well, only because this is the RETOOLED poll (how's that, Retro? lol), and I want it to be above the other one since this one now has the "average" option. :)

Bumping your current poll to get it above the older one won't help matters any. Best thing you can do is contact an administrator and ask them to delete the one you no longer want open.

Honestly, this show is my favorite show of all. I think it's because I grew up with it being an 80's child. I definitely prefer this female cast show to any other show with a female cast. These actresses just clicked. They weren't awkward with each other and you could tell on screen they liked being around each other. They were funny. It's amazing that children actors can portray the type of material these girls were given the first 4 years. I never get tired of watching this show. I've literally let every episode play and found out it takes almost 4 whole days for the complete series to play, this is including the pilot and 3 TV movies. While some prefer The Golden Girls or Designing Women, I prefer The Facts of Life girls. They have the best chemistry of any cast.

Very interesting Christopher, thanks for sharing your thoughts. :)

I've let every episode play and found out it takes almost 4 whole days for the complete series to play, this is including the pilot and 3 TV movies.

Lol, wow---that's awesome!

Honestly, this show is my favorite show of all. I think it's because I grew up with it being an 80's child. I definitely prefer this female cast show to any other show with a female cast. These actresses just clicked. They weren't awkward with each other and you could tell on screen they liked being around each other. They were funny. It's amazing that children actors can portray the type of material these girls were given the first 4 years. I never get tired of watching this show. I've literally let every episode play and found out it takes almost 4 whole days for the complete series to play, this is including the pilot and 3 TV movies. While some prefer The Golden Girls or Designing Women, I prefer The Facts of Life girls. They have the best chemistry of any cast.

I couldn't agree more. Except about the episodes running for four days, which I didn't know. Cool "fun fact"! :lol:

I'm also glad that, unlike TGG, where we eventually heard that Bea and Betty didn't get along, we've never heard of the "core four" plus Mrs. G not getting along. Sure, there was the Molly/Mindy thing, and the Geri/Charlotte thing, but no rivalry from the core cast. I like that.

I couldn't agree more. Except about the episodes running for four days, which I didn't know. Cool "fun fact"! :lol:

I'm also glad that, unlike TGG, where we eventually heard that Bea and Betty didn't get along, we've never heard of the "core four" plus Mrs. G not getting along. Sure, there was the Molly/Mindy thing, and the Geri/Charlotte thing, but no rivalry from the core cast. I like that.

Geri/ Charlotte thing? First I’m hearing of that. Go on. popcorn:

Geri/ Charlotte thing? First I’m hearing of that. Go on. popcorn:

:lol:

I'm also glad that, unlike TGG, where we eventually heard that Bea and Betty didn't get along, we've never heard of the "core four" plus Mrs. G not getting along.

Well, they professionally got along, and anything non-getting-along-wise was all on Bea's part. For the record, Betty said she adored Bea.

But don't forget about the sensationalism when Nancy, Kim, and Mindy confronted Lisa about not reading books on set! :lol:

:read:

:nonono:

Geri/ Charlotte thing? First I’m hearing of that. Go on. popcorn:
In one of the interviews, Geri said she felt alternately accepted, then rejected, by Charlotte. Charlotte, when she heard this, said during an interview that she didn't know anything about it, and it must be Geri's problem. Geri then felt even more rejected by Charlotte.

I'm paraphrasing, here, but that was the gist of the interviews, and that part of Geri's book. They of course subsequently made up.

I'm paraphrasing, here, but that was the gist of the interviews, and that part of Geri's book. They of course subsequently made up.

Because that's what Mrs. Garrett would have them do! :) (and one of them was the woman who played Mrs. Garrett, haha)

Well, they professionally got along, and anything non-getting-along-wise was all on Bea's part. For the record, Betty said she adored Bea.

I wish we'd gotten Bea's side.


But don't forget about the sensationalism when Nancy, Kim, and Mindy confronted Lisa about not reading books on set! :lol:

:read:

:nonono:

Does that even count as a spat? I mean, I think that was just Lisa needing to be reminded of professionalism on set: you don't seem into your job if you're concentrating on reading something that's not a script.

I wish we'd gotten Bea's side.

Yeah, we sort of get some if through comments by those who knew her, but it would be nice to hold her accountable. But I still :heart: GG! :bighug:

Does that even count as a spat? I mean, I think that was just Lisa needing to be reminded of professionalism on set: you don't seem into your job if you're concentrating on reading something that's not a script.

LOL it was a joke! Hence my ":lol:"...because yeah, during "Facts", that's the biggest thing they could dig up as "cast tensions" for one of the show's documentaries, lol.

Oh, Retry! ;)

Because that's what Mrs. Garrett would have them do! :) (and one of them was the woman who played Mrs. Garrett, haha)
:lol:

And she didn't even have to rip a photo of Geri Warner/Tyler and Mrs. Garrett in half to get them to make up! :lol:

:lol:

And she didn't even have to rip a photo of Geri Warner/Tyler and Mrs. Garrett in half to get them to make up! :lol:

:lol:

"Buddies forever!....well, for a while, anyway...and then not so much for a bit...but then back again!" lol

LOL it was a joke! Hence my ":lol:"...because yeah, during "Facts", that's the biggest thing they could dig up as "cast tensions" for one of the show's documentaries, lol.

Oh, Retry! ;)

Yeah, if they really wanted to dig up cast tensions, they could have unearthed the Molly/Mindy catfight! ;)

"Coming up, tensions on the set lead to three of the Facts girls confronting their fellow cast-mate on her addiction. And later, a long-last cast member talks about the intimidation she says she felt from a fellow cast-member. These controversies and more when we return!"

:lol:

:lol:

"Buddies forever!....well, for a while, anyway...and then not so much for a bit...but then back again!" lol

:rotflmao::rofl:

In one of the interviews, Geri said she felt alternately accepted, then rejected, by Charlotte. Charlotte, when she heard this, said during an interview that she didn't know anything about it, and it must be Geri's problem. Geri then felt even more rejected by Charlotte.

I'm paraphrasing, here, but that was the gist of the interviews, and that part of Geri's book. They of course subsequently made up.

Oh my! Well its good they made up, though Charlotte saying it was Geri's problem doesn't seem very Mrs G like..

Oh my! Well its good they made up, though Charlotte saying it was Geri's problem doesn't seem very Mrs G like..

No, but then again, Charlotte wasn't Mrs. G.

So all these years later, I wonder how much Geri was projecting, and how much was true. I do believe Geri's account, that Charlotte's assistant made things worse.

I'm also glad that, unlike TGG, where we eventually heard that Bea and Betty didn't get along, we've never heard of the "core four" plus Mrs. G not getting along. Sure, there was the Molly/Mindy thing, and the Geri/Charlotte thing, but no rivalry from the core cast. I like that.


And you could see that on screen. Bea wasn't a good enough actress to hide her dislike of Betty when filming. It ruins the rewatch of that show because you think what kind of abuse did Betty get during the filming of that episode? Same can be said about Shannen and Alyssa on Charmed. Shannen really didn't like Alyssa during her last season. However, I'm on Shannen's side with this LOL :lol: On Desperate Housewives, you can easily see Teri was not fond of being with the other girls in scenes during the later years. Season 8, Teri just looked like she was done being in that show. Her facial expressions were obvious. I don't know why actors / actresses think they can hide their true feelings of others when performing with people they don't like.

Don't forget the Kim / Cloris rumor. Rumor has it Kim was not happy with Cloris replacing Charlotte. I don't know how much of that is true. In the episode "Ready or Not", it really shows on screen Kim had a problem with Cloris because there looked like tension between them. However in the following episodes like "Fast Food", Kim acts with Cloris like she did with Charlotte. I don't know if they wrote Tootie to take time to adjust to Beverly Ann and Kim played the part or if the rumors were true. In the TV Land awards interview years later she didn't seem to have a problem with her though. Kim is an extraordinary actress so I'm hoping it was all acting during Cloris's first episodes.

Surprise about Geri and Charlotte. I never would have thought those two had issues. I agree with Charlotte when she says that's Geri's problem because it's always easy to interpret things that we misread from others.

Bea wasn't a good enough actress to hide her dislike of Betty when filming.

Wow. Don't let Bea fans hear you say that, haha.


It ruins the rewatch of that show

Well, I don't agree with that. It's one of my favorite sitcoms, and such good "comfort food" TV. popcorn: :so

No, but then again, Charlotte wasn't Mrs. G.

So all these years later, I wonder how much Geri was projecting, and how much was true. I do believe Geri's account, that Charlotte's assistant made things worse.

Very true, I heard Jaleel White say JoMarie Payton was awful to him in an interview, but years later when MOST of the cast reunited (Minus Jaimee Foxworth :mad:), they seemed to have made up.

Yeah, there were rumors/stories of Marla Gibbs and Jackee on "227" too, but they re-established their friendship years ago. They say so on one of the "227" DVD bonus features. popcorn: :so

Yeah, there were rumors/stories of Marla Gibbs and Jackee on "227" too, but they re-established their friendship years ago. They say so on one of the "227" DVD bonus features. popcorn: :so

I’ve heard about that as well

Very true, I heard Jaleel White say JoMarie Payton was awful to him in an interview, but years later when MOST of the cast reunited (Minus Jaimee Foxworth :mad:), they seemed to have made up.

Well, he did steal her show, and made a mockery of the name Family Matters (a show where the family didn't matter at all, as it became the Urkel Show).

And like you, I'm still burning up about the reunion snub to Jaimee Foxworth. :mad:

And you could see that on screen. Bea wasn't a good enough actress to hide her dislike of Betty when filming. It ruins the rewatch of that show because you think what kind of abuse did Betty get during the filming of that episode?

I truly hope the fighting has been exaggerated. I like TGG, and I hate even the thought of "the girls" not getting along.


Same can be said about Shannen and Alyssa on Charmed. Shannen really didn't like Alyssa during her last season. However, I'm on Shannen's side with this LOL :lol:

I enjoyed Charmed until Shannen left; the show, after her departure, declined in quality. The show had started with demons and such, and slowly devolved into this show with leprechauns, pixies, etc.

I make no judgements in who was right/wrong in the Shannen/Alyssa dispute, but it eventually ruined the show for me.


On Desperate Housewives, you can easily see Teri was not fond of being with the other girls in scenes during the later years. Season 8, Teri just looked like she was done being in that show. Her facial expressions were obvious. I don't know why actors / actresses think they can hide their true feelings of others when performing with people they don't like.

Never saw that one.


Don't forget the Kim / Cloris rumor. Rumor has it Kim was not happy with Cloris replacing Charlotte. I don't know how much of that is true. In the episode "Ready or Not", it really shows on screen Kim had a problem with Cloris because there looked like tension between them. However in the following episodes like "Fast Food", Kim acts with Cloris like she did with Charlotte. I don't know if they wrote Tootie to take time to adjust to Beverly Ann and Kim played the part or if the rumors were true. In the TV Land awards interview years later she didn't seem to have a problem with her though. Kim is an extraordinary actress so I'm hoping it was all acting during Cloris's first episodes.

I thought Tootie's interactions with Beverly Ann were all part of the script.


Surprise about Geri and Charlotte. I never would have thought those two had issues. I agree with Charlotte when she says that's Geri's problem because it's always easy to interpret things that we misread from others.

And Geri does admit that during the taping of the show, she lacked a lot of emotional maturity because of being sheltered by her disability. Which I think makes a lot of sense when you consider she'd never even left home when she was first on FOL. Suddenly, she went from a girl who still lived at home, to a young lady expected to interact with a cast who already all knew each other and were familiar with one another.

Well, he did steal her show, and made a mockery of the name Family Matters (a show where the family didn't matter at all, as it became the Urkel Show).

And like you, I'm still burning up about the reunion snub to Jaimee Foxworth. :mad:

Agreed!

Me too, even messaged her on Facebook. Jo Marie apparently stepped up for her and tried to convince them to let her join to no avail.

I truly hope the fighting has been exaggerated. I like TGG, and I hate even the thought of "the girls" not getting along.

Oh, there was no fighting period. Betty said she adored Bea. Anything "off" was on Bea's part.

Oh, there was no fighting period. Betty said she adored Bea. Anything "off" was on Bea's part.

"Maybe it was Bettys problem"

"Maybe it was Bettys problem"

Betty had no problem. I just told you, she adored Bea, lol. Listen, Lorsie. ;)

Agreed!

Me too, even messaged her on Facebook. Jo Marie apparently stepped up for her and tried to convince them to let her join to no avail.

Wow. Glad Jo Marie stuck up for Jaimee. Wish some others had...

Oh, there was no fighting period. Betty said she adored Bea. Anything "off" was on Bea's part.
Well, that's what I mean: we don't have Bea's side. We only have Betty's side.

Some people who knew speak for her, so though we don't have her side from her herself, there is insight.

Betty had no problem. I just told you, she adored Bea, lol. Listen, Lorsie. ;)

Just quoting Charlotte :D

Wow. Glad Jo Marie stuck up for Jaimee. Wish some others had...
I do know Jaimee is vey close with Shawn Harrison and Cherie Johnson still. I think she's in touch with Darius as well.

"Maybe it was Bettys problem"
:lol:

I truly hope the fighting has been exaggerated. I like TGG, and I hate even the thought of "the girls" not getting along.

I enjoyed Charmed until Shannen left; the show, after her departure, declined in quality. The show had started with demons and such, and slowly devolved into this show with leprechauns, pixies, etc.

I make no judgements in who was right/wrong in the Shannen/Alyssa dispute, but it eventually ruined the show for me.



Remember Rue, and I think Betty as well, said Estelle felt relief when Bea left the show? I don't think any of it was exaggerated since other cast members felt Bea's animosity on the set.

As for Charmed, that's how I feel too. I never finished the show after Shannen was fired. I think they made a mistake in getting rid of her instead of Alyssa. From what I read and heard from others, Shannen wanted the show to be serious like Buffy. Brad Kern took over the show though and wanted the show the way it became, fluff and girls in tight skimpy outfits. The show was no where near as good as the first 3 years. I take Shannen's side because Alyssa had no problem following along what the show became. It wasn't a respectable show anymore. It was just how much less can the women wear when fighting fairy tale characters.

Remember Rue, and I think Betty as well, said Estelle felt relief when Bea left the show? I don't think any of it was exaggerated since other cast members felt Bea's animosity on the set.

I don't remember that interview, and didn't know about that. I know Bea herself said she felt resentful of being on the show, and was ready to leave.

I do wish that Bea had done several more guest appearances on The Golden Palace, even just phoned-in cameos, so I could consider that show canon. :lol:


As for Charmed, that's how I feel too. I never finished the show after Shannen was fired.

Same. Stopped watching in Season Five.

I think they made a mistake in getting rid of her instead of Alyssa.

I don't see why they couldn't have just done a season with, say, Phoebe stuck in New York. Get the actresses on different sets and you eliminate the feud. Then you can reintroduce them a year later, when things have settled down.


From what I read and heard from others, Shannen wanted the show to be serious like Buffy. Brad Kern took over the show though and wanted the show the way it became, fluff and girls in tight skimpy outfits. The show was no where near as good as the first 3 years. I take Shannen's side because Alyssa had no problem following along what the show became. It wasn't a respectable show anymore. It was just how much less can the women wear when fighting fairy tale characters.

I agree that the show became silly fluff in skimpy outfits. WTF, Brad Kern! :mad: