'80sSitcoms was asking me about the FOL scripts that I have; he was specifically asking about "Dope" because he realized the character Gail went nameless in the broadcast version of the show. Here are the scripts I currently own:

Season Zero
The Girls' School

Season One
IQ [Second Revision, with extra scenes]
IQ [Final Revision]
The Slumber Party (DS)
Overachieving
Dieting
Emily Dickinson
The Facts of Love
Flash Flood
Golden Cavities (Teaser)
Romeo and Juliet (Teaser)
Clones (Teaser)
Running
Molly's Holiday
Dope
Homework (Teaser)

Season Two
The New Girl, Part 2
Teenage Marriage, Part 1
Teenage Marriage, Part 2
Breaking Point [transcript only]
Bought and Sold [partial script only]
Gossip

Season Three
N/A

Season Four
A Royal Pain

Season Five
The Halloween Show

Season Six
N/A

Season Seven
The Facts of Life Goes to Venice

Season Eight
N/A

Season Nine
N/A


I take requests, and am happy to post most of these in "The Group".

[fan gasp]

You have "Molly's Holiday"?? Yes, PLEASE share that with "The Group"! :D

(also..."Homework"? :confused: )

[fan gasp]

You have "Molly's Holiday"?? Yes, PLEASE share that with "The Group"! :D


Your wish is my command! I was going to save it for Christmas, as the script date shows that it was filmed right before Christmas 1979, but since it's officially Christmas season now, I guess it wouldn't hurt to reveal it a little early, as a special Christmas surprise.





(also..."Homework"? :confused: )


It's an odd little script. I believe it was meant to be a cold open or closing sting for another episode, if the episode ran short. Ultimately, it wasn't used, though it might have been taped.

Your wish is my command! I was going to save it for Christmas, as the script date shows that it was filmed right before Christmas 1979, but since it's officially Christmas season now, I guess it wouldn't hurt to reveal it a little early, as a special Christmas surprise.

Oh, whenever you want is fine---I have still "Gossip" and "Running" to get to! :lol:



It's an odd little script. I believe it was meant to be a cold open or closing sting for another episode, if the episode ran short. Ultimately, it wasn't used, though it might have been taped.

Oh my gosh, you have GOT* to share that.

*(if you please, lol)

Oh, whenever you want is fine---I have still "Gossip" and "Running" to get to! :lol:


Okay, per your request, "Molly's Holiday" is now posted in "The Group"; it's the version of the script with the alternate ending, and the one that gives more insight Cindy's family life, so I know you'll enjoy it! Merry (early) Christmas! :tree::stocking::cc:



Oh my gosh, you have GOT* to share that.

*(if you please, lol)


I definitely will... once you have the time to read the scripts I've already posted! :happyface


It's a script I never expected, and didn't know existed. (And there are others, like that, too.)

Okay, per your request, "Molly's Holiday" is now posted in "The Group"; it's the version of the script with the alternate ending, and the one that gives more insight Cindy's family life, so I know you'll enjoy it! Merry (early) Christmas! :tree::stocking::cc:

Haha, thanks!



I definitely will... once you have the time to read the scripts I've already posted! :happyface

lol! Well it won't hurt to have 'em all up and ready! ;) (and it must be short)


It's a script I never expected, and didn't know existed. (And there are others, like that, too.)

WHAT?

!!!

lol! Well it won't hurt to have 'em all up and ready! ;) (and it must be short)

Very short, indeed!


WHAT?

!!!

Once I started collecting scripts, I really started to realize that FOL was always a work in progress. Lines were cut or added, even on the day the episode was taped; scenes were cut, sometimes even after taping; and some scenes, and even entire scripts, never made it to broadcast, and definitely not DVD.

"Homework" is a good example of a "lost script", but there are definitely others; one such "lost" script was even posted here on these boards many years ago. I'm in the process of tracking it down.

We who have seen the completed episodes countless times tend to get in the mindset of "this is what happened in the episodes", forgetting that there are entire storylines, scripts, characters, character names, important lines, etc., that we never knew: an Alternate Facts Reality.

There is, I'm sure, an Alternate Facts Reality where Nancy had a decent number of lines; where Sue Ann visits Wichita for the summer; and where Cindy's original last name is revealed. There's even an Alternate Facts Reality where we meet Molly's mother. :happyface

Very short, indeed!

You are teasing me!! :lol: I don't have to wait to print out a "very short, indeed!" script, I'd go online to that in a heartbeat! lol



Once I started collecting scripts, I really started to realize that FOL was always a work in progress. Lines were cut or added, even on the day the episode was taped; scenes were cut, sometimes even after taping; and some scenes, and even entire scripts, never made it to broadcast, and definitely not DVD.

Yeah, I've largely realized those aspects of shows, but I just hadn't thought about actual scripts that didn't make it.


There is, I'm sure, an Alternate Facts Reality where we meet Molly's mother. :happyface

Haha...ikr?? I was stunned when watching this as an adult and seeing that Molly's mother, Mrs. Parker, never made it onto the screen. I mean, we were set up and teased to see her! --- Mrs. Garrett: "And Molly's mother makes foouuuurr!"---that was the commerical lead-in line, whetting our appetites to see the "Clash of the Parkers" when Molly's mother walked through the door---but she never did!

You are teasing me!! I:lol:
I would never tease you! At least not seriously. I'm just trying to get you to read the scripts I've already posted, so we can discuss them at GREAT LENGTH! I am dying to discuss them with someone who will treasure them as much as I do, but the most I can get is, "I'll read them later" or "It was cool"-type comments.



I don't have to wait to print out a "very short, indeed!" script, I'd go online to that in a heartbeat! lol
You didn't print the others yet? *sniffles*


Haha...ikr?? I was stunned when watching this as an adult and seeing that Molly's mother, Mrs. Parker, never made it onto the screen. I mean, we were set up and teased to see her! --- Mrs. Garrett: "And Molly's mother makes foouuuurr!"---that was the commerical lead-in line, whetting our appetites to see the "Clash of the Parkers" when Molly's mother walked through the door---but she never did!
Well, then, get ready to have your socks knocked off when you read "Molly's Holiday"!

Did you post the script to Girls' School?

Did you post the script to Girls' School?


I haven't, yet. Is that the next one you'd like to see, Lorimar? (I think you guys might be interested to see the "new" character who never made it off the script).

I haven't, yet. Is that the next one you'd like to see, Lorimar? (I think you guys might be interested to see the "new" character who never made it off the script).

Yes I would! Im curious to see Homework as well but it must be short if you think its a cold open. Who's in it?

Yes I would!


Well, then, your wish is my command! Merry (early) Christmas, Lorimar! :santa::frosty::rednose:



Im curious to see Homework as well but it must be short if you think its a cold open. Who's in it?


"Homework"? Blair and Sue Ann.

Well, then, your wish is my command! Merry (early) Christmas, Lorimar! :santa::frosty::rednose:






"Homework"? Blair and Sue Ann.

Yay!

Of course the stars of season 1 ;)

Yay!

Of course the stars of season 1 ;)


Indeed!

I would never tease you! At least not seriously. I'm just trying to get you to read the scripts I've already posted, so we can discuss them at GREAT LENGTH! I am dying to discuss them with someone who will treasure them as much as I do, but the most I can get is, "I'll read them later" or "It was cool"-type comments.

Ohhh, poor Retro! I can totally empathize with you, I know exactly what you are saying.


You didn't print the others yet? *sniffles*

Having 2 jobs, and visiting family on rare free times on those weekends when I have some free times, I just haven't stopped into Edna's Edibles & Copies (ha!) to print them out yet. But I will!


Well, then, get ready to have your socks knocked off when you read "Molly's Holiday"!

You mean----!!!!!!!!!

I haven't, yet. Is that the next one you'd like to see, Lorimar? (I think you guys might be interested to see the "new" character who never made it off the script).

Of COURSE we will be!!!!!!!!! :D


Who's in it?

Shhhhh! Nononononooooo! I don't want to know ahead of time! I want to find out when I read it!


"Homework"? Blair and Sue Ann.

Arrrrgh! Dang you, Lorimar! See? Now we know it's just Blair and Sue Ann. No one else. Not my favorite.

#DEFLATED

:(

Well, I can tell you this: Lorimar does NOT get a "Facts" Gold Star™ today.

Ohhh, poor Retro! I can totally empathize with you, I know exactly what you are saying.


Well, then I look forward to at long last reading your comments on the scripts. :lol:



Having 2 jobs, and visiting family on rare free times on those weekends when I have some free times, I just haven't stopped into Edna's Edibles & Copies (ha!) to print them out yet. But I will!


Sorry to hear about the workload. Up until May of this year, I was in the same boat, and my job had become really abusive.

Of COURSE we will be!!!!!!!!! :D




Shhhhh! Nononononooooo! I don't want to know ahead of time! I want to find out when I read it!




Arrrrgh! Dang you, Lorimar! See? Now we know it's just Blair and Sue Ann. No one else. Not my favorite.

#DEFLATED

:(

Well, I can tell you this: Lorimar does NOT get a "Facts" Gold Star™ today.
Sorry 80s. I will get you some cheese dip as a peace offering. Delivered by Cindy herself.

Sorry 80s. I will get you some cheese dip as a peace offering. Delivered by Cindy herself.


:lol: Cindy didn't even bring out the cheese dip the first time!

:lol: Cindy didn't even bring out the cheese dip the first time!

I know that’s what makes it so rare ;)

Ooh, a most uncommon event: Cindy Webster actually bringing out the cheese dip...?

Just updated the script list to add a pretty rare find.

Just updated the script list to add a pretty rare find.

IQ???? OMG my fav episode!!!!!

IQ???? OMG my fav episode!!!!!
Oh, no, IQ isn't that hard to find, but Venice is, in my experience.

Oh, no, IQ isn't that hard to find, but Venice is, in my experience.

Haha well thats cool too. I hadn't notice IQ was there then I guess, otherwise I would have requested that one. :lol:

Oh, no, IQ isn't that hard to find, but Venice is, in my experience.

"Venice"? Is this a joke, or am I missing something here? :confused:

And nice try, Lorimar. "Peace offering" indeed, pssh....

"Venice"? Is this a joke, or am I missing something here? :confused:



No joke. The Facts of Life Goes to Australia was originally a different script called The Facts of Life Goes to Venice. It was to have starred Mrs. G (it was written in February 1986). Instability in Italy caused the production to become delayed, and eventually Venice became Sydney and the Outback. TJ, the site administrator, confirmed these details back in 2001.

^---ooo, interesting...would've been neat to see Mrs. G in an Italian kitchen! (if they would have her still be gourmet Edna by that point)

"Venice"? Is this a joke, or am I missing something here? :confused:

And nice try, Lorimar. "Peace offering" indeed, pssh....

:(

Eh, ya can't stay out of sorts at laid-back Lorimar for too long. Gimme that dip. ;)

I take requests

"Rough Housing"!!!

"Flash Flood"!!!


(and will gladly see anything from the dorm and cafeteria years!)

Eh, ya can't stay out of sorts at laid-back Lorimar for too long. Gimme that dip. ;)

Yay :D *passes the dip*

Yay :D *passes the dip*

It's nice to know that even if Mrs. Garrett can't count on Cindy, I can count on you! :lol:

It's nice to know that even if Mrs. Garrett can't count on Cindy, I can count on you! :lol:

Lol always ;)

(and will gladly see anything from the dorm and cafeteria years!)


Your wish is my command, and since Lorimar requested IQ, I have linked that script in "The Group" (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/group.php?groupid=1).

Your wish is my command, and since Lorimar requested IQ, I have linked that script in "The Group" (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/group.php?groupid=1).

You’re amazing. :D I’ll try not to spoil this time 80s... ;)

You’re amazing. :D I’ll try not to spoil this time 80s... ;)

Haha, thanks, but OMG I have so much to print out! Can I get a bulk discount?? :lol:

You mean you still haven't printed them?! :eek:

Dude, I had a 17-hour day yesterday. lol

Oh, '80s! That doesn't sound good at all. :eek:

I hope you can go back to just one job. You are missing out on life.

Thanks, though fortunately, most days are not 17-hour days! lol

Anyway, I just uploaded 5 scripts to FedEx to see what a cost would be to have them print them, then pick them up:

$159.39

:eek2:

I am going to have to rethink my printing options, lol.

Eek! Yeah, don't do that. That's crazy.

Can't you just take them to the local library, on a thumb drive, and get them printed for, like 5c per copy? That's what our local college library charges.

Ya know, I think there must be something weird about printing to them online. You're right, if you stop in the store and print a black and white copy, it is something like 5 cents a page or so. The website was wanting $29 - $32 per script! (maybe it sensed they were "Facts" scripts and realized their value! lol) I'll stop by and check that out! (they have computers there, so you can just nicely go online and print them from the 'net)

Ya know, I think there must be something weird about printing to them online. You're right, if you stop in the store and print a black and white copy, it is something like 5 cents a page or so.

Yeah, even 10c per page for black and white would still only be, like, $4.00.

The website was wanting $29 - $32 per script! (maybe it sensed they were "Facts" scripts and realized their value! lol)

Haha!

"Scanning... scanning... Gold alert. The phrase 'Blair Warner' detected. Must add $25.00 surcharge, luxury fee."

:lol:


I'll stop by and check that out! (they have computers there, so you can just nicely go online and print them from the 'net)

Hope you're able to get them for a reasonable price!

"Scanning... scanning... Error. The phrase 'Blair Warner' detected. Must add $25.00 surcharge, luxury fee."

:lol:

Or in my case, "Scanning...scanning...Error. The phrase 'Cindy Webster' detected. Must add $25.00 ransom fee.", lol


Hope you're able to get them for a reasonable price!

Yeah, I'm sure I will. :) (psst---any chance of "Rough Housing" or "Flash Flood" ---or anything else season 1!---being uploaded within a couple of hours? Just checking before I leave the office to do errands before going home, lol)

:lol:
Or in my case, "Scanning...scanning...Error. The phrase 'Cindy Webster' detected. Must add $25.00 ransom fee.", lol


Haha! :lol:



Yeah, I'm sure I will. :) (psst---any chance of "Rough Housing" or "Flash Flood" ---or anything else season 1!---being uploaded within a couple of hours? Just checking before I leave the office to do errands before going home, lol)


I put a list of the scripts I have on the first page, and RH and FF are not on it, so I can't upload those. I do, however, have some other S1 scripts... One moment...

I put a list of the scripts I have on the first page, and RH and FF are not on it, so I can't upload those.

Ah, forgive me..."memory error" :lol:

But, ya never know, you could have acquired one or both of those sometime today; ya never know! lol


I do, however, have some other S1 scripts... One moment...

:eek:

:D

Okay, uploaded.

Ah, the "Homework" nugget---thanks! :)

Enjoy! I know I did!

Lol nice

I browse the board and caught wind of this...just joined. Would love to read “Venice” if you ever have the time to share! Thanks!

I browse the board and caught wind of this...just joined. Would love to read “Venice” if you ever have the time to share! Thanks!

Welcome, Sitcommania! Per your request, I have linked "FOL Goes to Venice" in "The Group" (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/group.php?groupid=1).

(If you have any problems with the download, please let me know. I had to link this script a little differently, as it exceeded the attachment size SitcomsOnline has.)

Hope you're able to get them for a reasonable price!

Well thanks, but this is tougher than I thought...turns out it must black and white copies that are, like, 5 cents a page. I was thiiiiiiiis close to clicking "Print" at a copy store on "The Girls' School" when I asked just to be sure how much black and white printed pages are (assuming it was 5 cents), and an employee there said "49 cents a page". :eek:


I immediately closed the document! lol


That was gonna be like 24 bucks for the script, which would be roundabout $125 or so I guess for 5 (and a bit more for "Homework"). Maybe a library might be cheaper. In fact, I seem to recall them being 10 cents a page when I last printed out something at one, though, granted, that was at least a few years ago.


The search continues!


(this could be a script in intself! :lol: )

Well thanks, but this is tougher than I thought...turns out it must black and white copies that are, like, 5 cents a page. I was thiiiiiiiis close to clicking "Print" at a copy store on "The Girls' School" when I asked just to be sure how much black and white printed pages are (assuming it was 5 cents), and an employee there said "49 cents a page". :eek:


I immediately closed the document! lol


That was gonna be like 24 bucks for the script, which would be roundabout $125 or so I guess for 5 (and a bit more for "Homework"). Maybe a library might be cheaper. In fact, I seem to recall them being 10 cents a page when I last printed out something at one, though, granted, that was at least a few years ago.


The search continues!


(this could be a script in intself! :lol: )


Yes, I do recommend a library. Most libraries aren't going to gouge you.

Yes, I do recommend a library. Most libraries aren't going to gouge you.


The Eastland Library sure wouldn't!


I'll try to find one that wasn't funded by the KKK ;)

The Eastland Library sure wouldn't!

I'll try to find one that wasn't funded by the KKK ;)


Haha! :lol:

The Eastland Library sure wouldn't!


I'll try to find one that wasn't funded by the KKK ;)

:eek4: Yeah good idea...

Welcome, Sitcommania! Per your request, I have linked "FOL Goes to Venice" in "The Group" (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/group.php?groupid=1).

(If you have any problems with the download, please let me know. I had to link this script a little differently, as it exceeded the attachment size SitcomsOnline has.)

Thanks Retro! 🙏 very generous of you!!

Thanks Retro! �� very generous of you!!
Oh, no problem!

It's my belief that fans of the show gain a better understanding of the show, its production, character motivations, etc., through the reading of these scripts. I had wondered, for years, why some things were written the way they were, or what the story behind certain scenes and events, and these scripts provided some answers... and, naturally, raised new questions.

Being able to share these scripts with others makes it possible for me to discuss this show with other fans of the series.

I have updated the list, as the last two scripts I was waiting for have finally come in.

Awesome! Hope to see Dope soon

Awesome! Hope to see Dope soon

Haha! Lorsy, you troublemaker! You need to hang out with me and Retro, not Tumpy and Gail! ;)


I have updated the list, as the last two scripts I was waiting for have finally come in.

There's nothing new there! :confused:

There's nothing new there! :confused:

You may have to hit 'refresh' on your browser.

You may have to hit 'refresh' on your browser.

I know that! I'm not some dog catcher in Paramus, New Jersey! :lol:

But really, I refreshed 3 times! lol...and I did twice just now. A doubter would say you've added nothing new, and are just toying with us, lol. Maybe there's a delay for some reason? :confused:

I know that! I'm not some dog catcher in Paramus, New Jersey! :lol:

But really, I refreshed 3 times! lol...and I did twice just now. A doubter would say you've added nothing new, and are just toying with us, lol. Maybe there's a delay for some reason? :confused:

That's weird. I can see it just fine.

Well, here's the updated S1 list:

IQ
The Slumber Party (DS)
Dieting
The Facts of Love
Flash Flood
Golden Cavities Teaser
Romeo and Juliet
Clones
Running
Molly's Holiday
Dope
Homework

OH.


MY.


GOSH.


Can I PLEEEEEEASE call into work tomorrow?!???? :lol:


Thanks Retrooooooo!!! :D

Awesome! Hope to see Dope soon

Okay, give me a few minutes.

OH.


MY.


GOSH.


Can I PLEEEEEEASE call into work tomorrow?!???? :lol:


Thanks Retrooooooo!!! :D
Hahaha!

You don't need MY permission! :lol:

In fact, I think you should!

Lol, yes, but now there's no reason to---still no new scripts :(

Lol, yes, but now there's no reason to---still no new scripts :(

Hold your horse! These things take time. I had to edit a post in order to add an attachment, then had to link the attachment in "The Group".

Per Lorimar's request, "Dope" is now uploaded. Which one would you like?

Hold your horse! These things take time. I had to edit a post in order to add an attachment, then had to link the attachment in "The Group".

Per Lorimar's request, "Dope" is now uploaded. Which one would you like?

OMG another teaser?! Which episode was that?

OHH! It was a misunderstanding! Just like "Three's Company"! :lol:

Retro, when you said you updated the list, I thought you meant you uploaded them into The Group! :lol: I thought they were all "there" but not showing up!

Okay, if I get to pick the next one, FLASH FLOOD!! :D

OMG another teaser?! Which episode was that?

Please don't tell us here! lol---I know you'll tell us in "The Group" under the posting for it, and I'd like to find out when I first go read it, please. :)

(Lorsie's like Sue Ann and Cindy---he can't resist a secret!)

OHH! It was a misunderstanding! Just like "Three's Company"! :lol:

Retro, when you said you updated the list, I thought you meant you uploaded them into The Group! :lol: I thought they were all "there" but not showing up!

But I thought...

But you said...

But Mr. Furley...

*slaps forehead*

Oh, it was all just a big misunderstanding!

:lol:


Okay, if I get to pick the next one, FLASH FLOOD!! :D

You got it!

But I thought...

But you said...

But Mr. Furley...

*slaps forehead*

Oh, it was all just a big misunderstanding!

:lol:

Haha!

By the way, look at us guys chattering around here tonight...we should have our own sitcoms, called "Night Owls"! :lol:


You got it!


No no! I don't want a flash flood, I just want the script! :p :D

Haha!

By the way, look at us guys chattering around here tonight...we should have our own sitcoms, called "Night Owls"! :lol:

That depends.. am I gonna star in the show, and then get written out after 13 episodes? :lol:


No no! I don't want a flash flood, I just want the script! :p :D

Okay, it's in "The Group".

That depends.. am I gonna star in the show, and then get written out after 13 episodes? :lol:

Haha! No way, we'll be an immediate hit! :D


Okay, it's in "The Group".

WOO-HOO! Thanks!! (can't wait to catch some scripts this weekend!!)

That depends.. am I gonna star in the show, and then get written out after 13 episodes? :lol:



Okay, it's in "The Group".

Haha I’m definitely a night owl. You would never be written out, you’re too important.

Hooray!

Book report due? Then grab your roach and your bong!
Haha! At this late hour, that really did make me " :lol: "!

You would never be written out, you’re too important.

But Lorsie...THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT JULIE PIE THOUGHT.

(!!)

But Lorsie...THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT JULIE PIE THOUGHT.

(!!)
Haha, that's what I just thought, too! :lol:

Haha! At this late hour, that really did make me " :lol: "!
Happy to provide a little entertainment! You guys keep me in stitches!

Haha, that's what I just thought, too! :lol:

lol, right? Aside from Lisa, Julie could have rested more comfortably than anyone (except perhaps Kim, or about as equal as Kim) knowing she would be back. But she wasn't!

Also, Lorsie,

THAT'S WHAT VALERIE HARPER THOUGHT

You guys keep me in stitches!

Oh yeah?? Well YOU guys are keeping me up typing on my keyboard when I'm supposed to be sleeping in my bed to get up for work in 6 hours and 45 minutes!

I might as well go out for track!! :lol:

Not just Valerie Harper. Roseanne, Sasha Mitchell, Hayley Mills, Chuck Cunningham...

Oh yeah?? Well YOU guys are keeping me up typing on my keyboard when I'm supposed to be sleeping in my bed to get up for work in 6 hours and 45 minutes!

I might as well go out for track!! :lol:

Sorry, '80s! We'll let you sleep, now. New scripts are here, but they're 40 years old. They can wait another night...

Haha! "40 years old and 1 night", lol.

(also: who's "Sasha Mitchell"? :confused: And as a Disney fan, I loved Hayley Mills in a few of her classic Disney films!)

Maybe not just Valerie, but she was definitely the case that started it all (at least, at her level [i.e., not Chuck Cunningham] ). The one that shocked all of Hollywood (well, maybe that's a bit dramatic, but you get it, lol).

Also, fun fact, if you care :lol: : I'm reading the scripts in production order! :read:

Not just Valerie Harper. Roseanne, Sasha Mitchell, Hayley Mills, Chuck Cunningham...

Lmao i don’t think Chuck really thought he was untouchable. He was recast after season 1 and only appeared twice in season 2. The others on the list were actually title characters, minus Sasha. Suzanne Somers thought so as well on TC

Haha! "40 years old and 1 night", lol.

(also: who's "Sasha Mitchell"? :confused: And as a Disney fan, I loved Hayley Mills in a few of her classic Disney films!)

Maybe not just Valerie, but she was definitely the case that started it all (at least, at her level [i.e., not Chuck Cunningham] ). The one that shocked all of Hollywood (well, maybe that's a bit dramatic, but you get it, lol).

Also, fun fact, if you care :lol: : I'm reading the scripts in production order! :read:

He played Cody on Step by Step with Patrick Duffy and Suzanne Somers. He was introduced as the cousin in episode 4 and promoted to regular by episode 6. He stayed until season 5 when he was arrested under domestic abuse charges. Turns out he was protecting his kids from his alcoholic wife. He won custody and got to appear in the second to last episode of the series.

l

(also: who's "Sasha Mitchell"? :confused: And as a Disney fan, I loved Hayley Mills in a few of her classic Disney films!)

Maybe not just Valerie, but she was definitely the case that started it all (at least, at her level [i.e., not Chuck Cunningham] ). The one that shocked all of Hollywood (well, maybe that's a bit dramatic, but you get it, lol).


Also the reason my namesake production company went belly up :lol:

Haha! "40 years old and 1 night", lol.

(also: who's "Sasha Mitchell"? :confused: And as a Disney fan, I loved Hayley Mills in a few of her classic Disney films!)

Lorimar, above, explains who Sasha Mitchell is. He became the break-out star on Step By Step.

Hayley Mills' Disney films are wonderful. I'm sure Disney execs were hoping to re-capture that magic on GMMB.


Maybe not just Valerie, but she was definitely the case that started it all (at least, at her level [i.e., not Chuck Cunningham] ). The one that shocked all of Hollywood (well, maybe that's a bit dramatic, but you get it, lol).

I think it only rocked Hollywood because Valerie took the case public. Prior to that, when TV stars got fired, they just vanished. To some extent, Suzanne Somers may have been a trailblazer, too. They didn't stay silent when they got axed.


Also, fun fact, if you care :lol: : I'm reading the scripts in production order! :read:

I care, and that's awesome!

Yeah I would say Suzanne’s situation was similar, only she wasn’t the namesake of her show. Ironically both worked on Lorimar shows but Suzanne found them to be very adequate paycheck wise.

Yeah I would say Suzanne’s situation was similar, only she wasn’t the namesake of her show. Ironically both worked on Lorimar shows but Suzanne found them to be very adequate paycheck wise.

Well, I think Suzanne Somers later realized what a huge mistake it had been to demand a 500% raise in salary on Three's Company, while holding up production. By the time of SBS, Suzanne had been reduced to doing Thighmasters commercials. I'm sure she welcomed a Lorimar Television paycheck.

Also the reason my namesake production company went belly up :lol:

:lol: Sorry to hear that, Lorsie! :blush:

But, on a happier note, Valerie says the main people involved in that get along now.

Oh that's right, SM was on S-b-S. I remember Cody, "duuuude", lol.


I think it only rocked Hollywood because Valerie took the case public. To some extent, Suzanne Somers may have been a trailblazer, too.

Suzanne was, yes, but regarding Valerie, it rocked Hollywood because it was the first time a seemingly untouchable star ("They can't fire me, I'm the show's title!") on an eponymous series was fired from their own show.

Ironically both worked on Lorimar shows

Oh Lorimar, you troublemaker, you! :lol:


Suzanne had been reduced to doing Thighmasters commercials. I'm sure she welcomed a Lorimar Television paycheck.

"reduced"? I see what you mean, but, since being banished from TC, that woman has done nothing but roll in dough --- and I ain't talkin' the kind of dough at Edna's Edibles! :lol: It's amazing how rich that gadget and all of her books and money-handling have made her (I wouldn't mind being able to call her "Aunt Suzanne", haha).

So Dieting is the only season 1 script you haven't posted? Plus TSP since it has Molly and Cindy.

So Dieting is the only season 1 script you haven't posted? Plus TSP since it has Molly and Cindy.

Dieting, The Facts of Love, and The Slumber Party, yes. So, three Season One scripts left. Should I save them for next year?

Dieting, The Facts of Love, and The Slumber Party, yes. So, three Season One scripts left. Should I save them for next year?

Whatever you want is fine with me. Do you know if TLC is around somewhere?

Whatever you want is fine with me. Do you know if TLC is around somewhere?

I have searched for a long time for The Little Chill, but I've never found it. I'm sure it's "out there", somewhere. But whoever is holding onto it has it locked away.

I have searched for a long time for The Little Chill, but I've never found it. I'm sure it's "out there", somewhere. But whoever is holding onto it has it locked away.

Ah too bad, what about Front Page, or Sex Symbol?

Ah too bad, what about Front Page, or Sex Symbol?
I'd love Sex Symbol, Dear Me, Green-Eyed Monster, Pretty Babies, The Little Chill... any of the post-season-one Lost Girl scripts. Unfortunately, I haven't found most of them, yet: just Gossip and The New Girl, part 2. Eventually, though, I will find them. We're lucky that there are quite a few, as that helps our chances in finding some of them.

Front Page is the Cafeteria-era script I'd most like to see. I want to see how Sue Ann and Cindy's final Eastland scene was scripted. I don't believe they were supposed to vanish into thin air like they did, due to what I suspect was bad editing.

I'd love Sex Symbol, Dear Me, Green-Eyed Monster, Pretty Babies, The Little Chill... any of the post-season-one Lost Girl scripts. Unfortunately, I haven't found most of them, yet: just Gossip and The New Girl, part 2. Eventually, though, I will find them. We're lucky that there are quite a few, as that helps our chances in finding some of them.

Front Page is the Cafeteria-era script I'd most like to see. I want to see how Sue Ann and Cindy's final Eastland scene was scripted. I don't believe they were supposed to vanish into thin air like they did, due to what I suspect was bad editing.

True, one minute they’re at the table the next they’re off to the background

Dieting, The Facts of Love, and The Slumber Party, yes. So, three Season One scripts left. Should I save them for next year?

NO! :lol:

If you have treasures, PLEASE, share them!! :D

The sooner you share them, the sooner they're available to the viewing public! :)

Haha good point Eightsy

NO! :lol:

If you have treasures, PLEASE, share them!! :D

The sooner you share them, the sooner they're available to the viewing public! :)

You got it!

Which one should I share next, you guys? (Please see the first page of this thread for the list of available scripts. I don't have a bunch of the scripts that have been requested... though I sure wish I was able to track some of them down... Definitely Rough Housing, The Little Chill, Sex Symbol, and OMG Front Page).

"The Slumber Party"!
"Dieting"!
"The Facts of Love"!

(okay, that's three, sorry, lol :blush: )

Okay, give me a minute, here...

I'm sorry...I get so caught up in "order"! lol

But really, you can't count DS as a full FOL script, so that gives me leeway to ask for at least 2! :lol: :D

Okay, new script uploaded!

WOO-HOO!

It's like a holiday gift giveaway on a talk show around here! :lol:

You spoil us Retro

Enjoy, guys!

What script is on your Christmas wish list this year, guys?

What script is on your Christmas wish list this year, guys?

You know my answer, I'm sure: "Rough Housing"!

You know my answer, I'm sure: "Rough Housing"!
Sadly, I don't have it. Santa never brought it.

Sadly, I don't have it. Santa never brought it.

Correction: Santa hasn't brought it yet; there's always hope for a Christmas miracle! :lol:

Correction: Santa hasn't brought it yet; there's always hope for a Christmas miracle! :lol:
Haha! I suppose you're right.

Dieting of course! Need to see if the cinnamon buns and rice pudding were in the original script!

Dieting of course! Need to see if the cinnamon buns and rice pudding were in the original script!

Okay, one vote for "Dieting" (which I have), and one vote for "Rough Housing" (which I don't have).

Dieting of course! Need to see if the cinnamon buns and rice pudding were in the original script!

:rofl:

And don't forget the ubiquitous mystery meat!

:rofl:

And don't forget the ubiquitous mystery meat!

Haha of course not! Maybe the knew what the animal was in the original?

Haha of course not! Maybe the knew what the animals was in the original?

:eek:

:rofl:

I added a new script to my collection this week.

I added a new script to my collection this week.
Ooooooo, which one?? :read:

I hope it's "The Lost Girls take the Sitcoms Online 'Facts of Life' Buddies Out to Lunch" :lol: :D :loveya:

Ooooooo, which one?? :read:

I edited the first post in this thread to reflect the addition.

Here is a clue: "beauty crowds me till i die"


I hope it's "The Lost Girls take the Sitcoms Online 'Facts of Life' Buddies Out to Lunch" :lol: :D :loveya:

That doesn't sound like a script! It sounds like a dream come true!

I edited the first post in this thread to reflect the addition.

Here is a clue: "beauty crowds me till i die"
"beauty, mercy have on me" ;)

"She can't be much----look at the way she wears her hair!" Oh, Blair! :lol:

What if Miss Mahoney were passing by her room and overheard, and thought Blair was talking about her? :schmack: :lol:


That doesn't sound like a script! It sounds like a dream come true!
Hey, I would GLADLY work on a script if Julie, Julie Ann, Molly, and Felice signed on!! :clap:

Emily Dickinson? Oh yay!!!

Emily Dickinson? Oh yay!!!

said no high school English student, ever ;)

Do you have the script for Cousin Geri?

said no high school English student, ever ;)

Very true :lol:

Do you have the script for Cousin Geri?
No, but the full list is on page 1 of this thread.

Emily Dickinson? Oh yay!!!
Is that a request?

Is that a request?

Well since you have it, of course! :D

Well since you have it, of course! :D

Done and done! (And I mean done!)

Done and done! (And I mean done!)

Yay!

I have updated my script list with some rare gems, which I'd like to release over this holiday season.

Cool, looking forward. Its really nice of you to share these!

"IQ [Second Revision, with extra scenes]"

!!!!!

"IQ [Second Revision, with extra scenes]"

!!!!!

I take it that's a request? :lol:

Okay, one moment... There's definitely a "new" scene in there that I know you'll LOVE, '80s!

Cool, looking forward. Its really nice of you to share these!

I share them for a selfish reason: so I'll have someone else to talk with about them! :lol:

Okay, IQ, second revision, is now posted in "The Group"!

What others do you have?

What others do you have?
Only the 25 on this list (https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showpost.php?p=5446100&postcount=1), though I'm continually on the look-out for more early scripts. I'd dearly love to get my hands on "Sex Symbol", "Pretty Babies", "The Little Chill", "Front Page", "Green-Eyed Monster", "Dear Me", "Rough Housing", "The Return of Mr. Garrett", 'Like Mother, Like Daughter", "Adoption", and "Fear Strikes Back".

Neat! How do you find them? I love seeing cut things and extra material to any shows or movies that I like.

Neat! How do you find them?

"I have my sources." :lol:

Just kidding.

My scripts were found all over the Internet. One I found on this website. Four I purchased on eBay. Several I found on another forum. Several were purchased on Script City (more reliable) and ScriptFly (less reliable). Some were emailed to me by friends, or available on writers' websites, or Google image searches.


I love seeing cut things and extra material to any shows or movies that I like.

Same here. Seeing additional scenes gives us a better idea of what the writers/producers had intended. It can also shed light on the characters themselves, as we saw with Nancy's cut scene in "Overachieving" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo4UhEW2EO8&feature=youtu.be), or the parts of Molly's lines that are cut for syndication in "The New Girl, part 2". Seeing Nancy talk about her OCD habits, which is something we never knew about her, reveals more of a character that we never got to really explore. And seeing Molly's additional lines reveals the role that Molly Ringwald accepted, rather than the role that aired, and gives insight into why she ultimately left the show as a semi-regular.

"IQ [Second Revision, with extra scenes]"

!!!!!

Whaaaaaat? Omg yes please!

Whaaaaaat? Omg yes please!

It's up, Lorsie! :)

Can I request scripts from when Martha Williamson wrote for the show?

Can I request scripts from when Martha Williamson wrote for the show?

I only have the 25 on this list (https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showpost.php?p=5446100&postcount=1). Williamson wrote for the show during Seasons 8 and 9. I have no scripts from those seasons, and am not really a later-seasons fan, though I wouldn't mind getting the script for episode 8-06, "The Little Chill", when old, familiar friends at last return to Peekskill. That felt like a classic episode!

I only have the 25 on this list (https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showpost.php?p=5446100&postcount=1). Williamson wrote for the show during Seasons 8 and 9. I have no scripts from those seasons, and am not really a later-seasons fan, though I wouldn't mind getting the script for episode 8-06, "The Little Chill", when old, familiar friends at last return to Peekskill. That felt like a classic episode!

Okay, thank you.

After putting it off I finally read the script for Dieting. The only difference I noticed was Mrs Gs line to Blair at the end. I did think the ending was sorta choppy, ending on Sue Ann telling Blair they were even, cut to a freeze frame of Blair. But Mrs Gs line didn’t make much sense either.

After putting it off I finally read the script for Dieting.

YAY! We can finally discuss it!


The only difference I noticed was Mrs Gs line to Blair at the end. I did think the ending was sorta choppy, ending on Sue Ann telling Blair they were even, cut to a freeze frame of Blair. But Mrs Gs line didn’t make much sense either.

Blair's nose was pushed in the pudding, so Mrs. G's line was about her inhaling pudding and thus gaining weight. I feel like they made the right decision to cut that line, as well as Sue Ann's "We're even!". Ending with Blair's face covered in pudding was a stronger ending, so I agree.

I take it that's a request? :lol:

Okay, one moment... There's definitely a "new" scene in there that I know you'll LOVE, '80s!

Oh no you don't! I'm not falling for that again! I learned my lesson of pre-excitement hopes dashed when you played up "something NEW we learn about Cindy's character!" in a script shared here in 2018, only for it to be nothing new about her at all. Lesson learned! :snob:

;)

Whaaaaaat? Omg yes please!

Hahahaha, I knew Lorsie would want that one next!


I feel like they made the right decision to cut that line, as well as Sue Ann's "We're even!". Ending with Blair's face covered in pudding was a stronger ending, so I agree.

Unless I'm misreading something, it sounds like you're saying they cut Sue Ann's line "We're even!" from the script. But it actually is in the final episode. In fact, I think her line is actually longer, with her saying "Now we're even!", which I cannot believe you two Sue Ann fan brigaders would not notice, lol ;), but she definitely does say "We're even!" at least.

Oh no you don't! I'm not falling for that again! I learned my lesson of pre-excitement hopes dashed when you played up "something NEW we learn about Cindy's character!" in a script shared here in 2018, only for it to be nothing new about her at all. Lesson learned! :snob:

;)

Sorry '80s! But I know you will love what happens in one scene...



Hahahaha, I knew Lorsie would want that one next!

Of course!


Unless I'm misreading something, it sounds like you're saying they cut Sue Ann's line "We're even!" from the script. But it actually is in the final episode. In fact, I think her line is actually longer, with her saying "Now we're even!", which I cannot believe you two Sue Ann fan brigaders would not notice, lol ;), but she definitely does say "We're even!" at least.

Ah! I never could hear what she was saying because of the audience laughter. But now we know what she actually said. Which is very cool.

Ah! I never could hear what she was saying because of the audience laughter. But now we know what she actually said. Which is very cool.

That's funny that I knew that line and you didn't, just because I'm usually bad at not being able to make out lines under big laughter or "people talking all at once". lol

That's funny that I knew that line and you didn't, just because I'm usually bad at not being able to make out lines under big laughter or "people talking all at once". lol

I know what you mean, because I'm not great at that myself.

I know what you mean, because I'm not great at that myself.

Oh no! I hoped you were because there's a CINDY line I can't make out in "Overachieving"! I was counting on you! :lol:

Oh no! I hoped you were because there's a CINDY line I can't make out in "Overachieving"! I was counting on you! :lol:

Uh oh. Where's it at?

Uh oh. Where's it at?

It's in Mrs. Garrett's bedroom right after Molly ZINGS Blair with:

"That'll never happen."

"And why not?"

"Because I'm gonna be the president of General Motors."

OOOOoooo! Get 'er, Mols! :lol:

And Mrs. Garrett and the girls laugh and cheer Molly on, and Cindy says SOMETHING to Blair in a dig about Molly getting her, but I cannot tell what it is.

It's in Mrs. Garrett's bedroom right after Molly ZINGS Blair with:

"That'll never happen."

"And why not?"

"Because I'm gonna be the president of General Motors."

OOOOoooo! Get 'er, Mols! :lol:

And Mrs. Garrett and the girls laugh and cheer Molly on, and Cindy says SOMETHING to Blair in a dig about Molly getting her, but I cannot tell what it is.

I'm such garbage at this. I hear "... that, Blair!" :lol:

Sadly, that part of the scene isn't in the version of the script I have.

I'm such garbage at this. I hear "... that, Blair!" :lol:

Sadly, that part of the scene isn't in the version of the script I have.

Haha! Yes, I remember thinking I could at least make out "Blair" at the very end. :lol:

Oh well, thanks for trying! :wave:

She says, “She got you on that one, Blair.”

She says, “She got you on that one, Blair.”

Nice catch, SM!

You'll have to be our Official Hearer from now on! ;)

Lol! Hopefully it’ll stick out better next time you watch it.

Lol! Hopefully it’ll stick out better next time you watch it.

Lol! Hopefully it’ll stick out better next time you watch it.

Lol! Hopefully it’ll stick out better next time you watch it.
I'm sure it will NOW! :lol:

YAY! We can finally discuss it!



Blair's nose was pushed in the pudding, so Mrs. G's line was about her inhaling pudding and thus gaining weight. I feel like they made the right decision to cut that line, as well as Sue Ann's "We're even!". Ending with Blair's face covered in pudding was a stronger ending, so I agree.

Haha yes. I didn’t think it made sense since they were just telling Sue Ann not to worry about her weight so much, and then she tells Blair that? Seems kinda mixed message sounding.

I'm sure it will NOW! :lol:

Times three :lol:

Haha yes. I didn’t think it made sense since they were just telling Sue Ann not to worry about her weight so much, and then she tells Blair that? Seems kinda mixed message sounding.

Yeah, it definitely could be taken that way. That line surely needed to go.

She says, “She got you on that one, Blair.”

Awesome, thanks! Another Cindy line her "Facts" line count! :D


Nice catch, SM!

You'll have to be our Official Hearer from now on!

:lol:

And then we'll see who wins the runner-up position: "Assistant Expert of the Hearing"! :lol:

Interesting that in the New Girl, Part 2 that Molly's lines with Natalie (who she allegedly was not getting along with at that time) were the ones cut.

Interesting that in the New Girl, Part 2 that Molly's lines with Natalie (who she allegedly was not getting along with at that time) were the ones cut.

Good point. Is it possible that their dispute had something to do with that cut line? Is that why Molly felt intimidated? Or was that the producers trying to minimize contact between two child stars?

I think Mindy Cohn has stated that she is shy (in a podcast I listened to),and speaking as a shy person, that can come across as being aloof. I think when Molly Ringwald was asked that question, she only recalled the situation for the sake of giving an answer. I don’t think Mindy Cohn was ever mean.

I think Mindy Cohn has stated that she is shy (in a podcast I listened to),and speaking as a shy person, that can come across as being aloof. I think when Molly Ringwald was asked that question, she only recalled the situation for the sake of giving an answer. I don’t think Mindy Cohn was ever mean.

Molly did say that Mindy was the mean girl on the set and was intimidated by Mindy. Molly has a habit of giving out teases without being specific. I know people who Mindy stayed with when she was having her cancer treatments and they said she was a very nice person. She has a reputation of being nice. Molly, on the other hand, does have a reputation of being a diva. There must have been some kind of bad blood between them at the time since they didn't show Molly and Mindy lines with one another.

Good point. Is it possible that their dispute had something to do with that cut line? Is that why Molly felt intimidated? Or was that the producers trying to minimize contact between two child stars?

Even in the original script, there was no interaction between Molly and Jo. Wonder if the writers and producers felt this would have been too awkward for everyone on the set.

I think Mindy Cohn has stated that she is shy (in a podcast I listened to),and speaking as a shy person, that can come across as being aloof. I think when Molly Ringwald was asked that question, she only recalled the situation for the sake of giving an answer. I don’t think Mindy Cohn was ever mean.

I definitely could see where a shy person could be seen as aloof.

Then again, Melissa Sue Anderson also described herself as shy, but Melissa Gilbert said she was just plain mean, and their rivalry went on for years, so I'm not sure what to make of the Mindy/Molly situation. What could even have happened on the set to cause Molly to feel intimidated? Other than having her lines cut, which we know happened.

Molly did say that Mindy was the mean girl on the set and was intimidated by Mindy. Molly has a habit of giving out teases without being specific. I know people who Mindy stayed with when she was having her cancer treatments and they said she was a very nice person. She has a reputation of being nice. Molly, on the other hand, does have a reputation of being a diva. There must have been some kind of bad blood between them at the time since they didn't show Molly and Mindy lines with one another.

I did always get the impression that La Mol was a bit of a diva, though that seemed to post-date her time on FOL. I certainly got that impression from Molly's book, Getting the Pretty Back, which was supposedly a "self-help" book, but instead felt like it was advice written by Blair Warner: page after page of completely useless "advice", like where to get the best camembert cheese when you visit Paris in Winter, or the best way to uncork a cabernet when your chauffeur has left the corkscrew in the limousine, and you're on the slopes in Aspen, and then you just happen to run into Indira Ghandi, etc., etc...

I don't know that I'd say the lack of lines proves there was bad blood, but it certainly is odd. Molly Parker was just as close to Natalie as she was to Tootie or Blair.

(BTW, forgot to mention: welcome, 80s Dude!!!)

Even in the original script, there was no interaction between Molly and Jo. Wonder if the writers and producers felt this would have been too awkward for everyone on the set.

I don't feel that way, because if so, why give Sue Ann, Nancy, and Cindy lines with Jo? I suspect the producers just expected the Lost Girls to be professional children around the Core Four: say your lines and take the check.

It seems as though the producers had plans to bring Molly back, after TNG2, but we know she decided not to go back, because she felt humiliated, being demoted to semi-regular. Julie Pie seems to have had the opposite feeling, but maybe she didn't feel that way at the time.

During the Paley Festival, the Core Four were asked if it was awkward to work with the Lost Girls after the Cast Purge, and Lisa and Nancy said no. Lisa pointed out that she had already worked with Julie Pie on the NMMC, and Nancy said, "Maybe we're not the people to be asking." Which was a good point.

The producers weren't very mindful of peoples' feelings, IMO, based on the perceptions relayed by Geri, Felice, Molly, and Kelly, albeit many years after the "fact". ;)

I don't feel that way, because if so, why give Sue Ann, Nancy, and Cindy lines with Jo? I suspect the producers just expected the Lost Girls to be professional children around the Core Four: say your lines and take the check.

It seems as though the producers had plans to bring Molly back, after TNG2, but we know she decided not to go back, because she felt humiliated, being demoted to semi-regular. Julie Pie seems to have had the opposite feeling, but maybe she didn't feel that way at the time.

During the Paley Festival, the Core Four were asked if it was awkward to work with the Lost Girls after the Cast Purge, and Lisa and Nancy said no. Lisa pointed out that she had already worked with Julie Pie on the NMMC, and Nancy said, "Maybe we're not the people to be asking." Which was a good point.

The producers weren't very mindful of peoples' feelings, IMO, based on the perceptions relayed by Geri, Felice, Molly, and Kelly, albeit many years after the "fact". ;)

Perhaps because the other lost girls were older, they handled the demotion/firings better than what Molly did. Molly clearly was not a happy camper in that last episode. Her icy stares in Jo's direction when waiting in line with Margo, the lip biting, the eye rolls after she tells Margo to stop harassing Jo.

When watching the original episode (I was almost 16 then), I noticed a change in Molly going from being such a happy child in season 1 to a moody one in this episode. It was only many years later did I find out how she really felt about being on this episode (her worse job ever).

I also wondered why the producers didn't team Molly up with at least one of the other lost girls for moral support. They would have gone through the same feelings Molly did, but handled it better. Instead they isolated a 12 year old child from the group she used to be in and I imagine that the actress playing Margo was basically a complete stranger too (and she was 19 years old at the time). Thought that was quite cruel.

Molly Ringwald has also mentioned that she was supposed to be the fourth girl, until the network requested a brand new character, so there’s another layer. I wonder how they would have been separated from the other girls, though, without Jo’s influence.

Molly Ringwald has also mentioned that she was supposed to be the fourth girl, until the network requested a brand new character, so there’s another layer. I wonder how they would have been separated from the other girls, though, without Jo’s influence.

Molly's mentioned this, but "Dope" (S1E13) strongly indicates Julie Pie would have been kept on, while one documentary says Julie Anne was the last to be expelled. There's even a newspaper article from July 1980 that says Felice was being kept on.

By August 1980, they knew Molly, Felice, Julie Pie, and Julie Anne would be gone; we know this because there were already news stories reporting that only Mindy, Kim, and Lisa had made the cut.

Without Jo, there would have been no punishment, because the whole new-girl-steals-van plot was totally ripped off from the then-recent film Little Darlings. In the film, a spoiled rich girl and a poor street hoodlum girl meet at summer camp, clash, dare each other to do dangerous things, and eventually hotwire the camp van. Brandon Tartikoff loved the film, and wanted to see that plot incorporated into FOL. He even named the character "Foxy".

Perhaps because the other lost girls were older, they handled the demotion/firings better than what Molly did. Molly clearly was not a happy camper in that last episode. Her icy stares in Jo's direction when waiting in line with Margo, the lip biting, the eye rolls after she tells Margo to stop harassing Jo.

When watching the original episode (I was almost 16 then), I noticed a change in Molly going from being such a happy child in season 1 to a moody one in this episode.

Do you really feel as though Molly's mood carried into her performance, here? I do not. I feel as though Molly wasn't given much to do, here, other than go through the line, speak briefly with her friends, and then eat with Margo.


It was only many years later did I find out how she really felt about being on this episode (her worse job ever).

Yeah, I know she felt terrible about doing this episode. Maybe, as you say, being with another Lost Girl would have made it easier. Then again, maybe Molly's despair would have carried over onto another Lost Girl, causing them both to refuse to do more episodes. Which would have sucked, IMO. I love those touches of continuity, where we see other girls at Eastland.


I also wondered why the producers didn't team Molly up with at least one of the other lost girls for moral support. They would have gone through the same feelings Molly did, but handled it better. Instead they isolated a 12 year old child from the group she used to be in and I imagine that the actress playing Margo was basically a complete stranger too (and she was 19 years old at the time). Thought that was quite cruel.

I think the producers believed they were throwing Molly a bone by having her in the episode at all. They certainly weren't perceptive or empathetic folks, later going on to bring in scales to the set, in order to weigh the Core Four.

Molly's mentioned this, but "Dope" (S1E13) strongly indicates Julie Pie would have been kept on, while one documentary says Julie Anne was the last to be expelled. There's even a newspaper article from July 1980 that says Felice was being kept on.


Really? :eek: I never heard this!

She mentions it on Andy Cohen and the Entertainment Weekly interview.

Do you really feel as though Molly's mood carried into her performance, here? I do not. I feel as though Molly wasn't given much to do, here, other than go through the line, speak briefly with her friends, and then eat with Margo.



Yeah, I know she felt terrible about doing this episode. Maybe, as you say, being with another Lost Girl would have made it easier. Then again, maybe Molly's despair would have carried over onto another Lost Girl, causing them both to refuse to do more episodes. Which would have sucked, IMO. I love those touches of continuity, where we see other girls at Eastland.



I think the producers believed they were throwing Molly a bone by having her in the episode at all. They certainly weren't perceptive or empathetic folks, later going on to bring in scales to the set, in order to weigh the Core Four.

When I first saw this episode when it originally aired and I was 15, I thought Molly must have gotten up at the wrong side of the bed and was not happy. I only found out what happened behind the scenes 2 decades later. Looking back, you would notice that Molly is giving icy stares in Jo's direction and she is biting her lips a lot as she was entering the cafeteria with Margo.

So after I saw that I decided consulting the Molly Parker book on body language (who became a body language expert in season 1), This is what they had to say about lip biting, "According to body language expert Molly Parker, biting and chewing on the lip often indicates fear and anxiety. It can mean that the person is uncomfortable in the situation, worried or insecure about something."

And then after Molly gives her last ever FOL line to Margo, she turns her head away from the camera and gave one of those classic Molly Ringwald eye rolls. Molly was such a happy child in season 1, there is not even a hint of happiness in this episode.

Really? :eek: I never heard this!

Yes, it's in the Articles and Photos thread.

She mentions it on Andy Cohen and the Entertainment Weekly interview.

Yes, we LOVE those interviews; as far as I know they are Molly's first talking about FOL since 1986, when she did the infamous "worst job ever" interview.

But the other pieces of info we have, in documentaries and newspaper articles, don't really support Molly's contention. Still, it wouldn't be unknown for producers to be less than forthcoming with information to the acting talent; we know some other girls on this show felt "disappointed" about so many "promises" that had been made, which didn't come true. Felice and Pamela Adlon have both spoken about this.

When I first saw this episode when it originally aired and I was 15, I thought Molly must have gotten up at the wrong side of the bed and was not happy. I only found out what happened behind the scenes 2 decades later. Looking back, you would notice that Molly is giving icy stares in Jo's direction and she is biting her lips a lot as she was entering the cafeteria with Margo.

So after I saw that I decided consulting the Molly Parker book on body language (who became a body language expert in season 1), This is what they had to say about lip biting, "According to body language expert Molly Parker, biting and chewing on the lip often indicates fear and anxiety. It can mean that the person is uncomfortable in the situation, worried or insecure about something."


:lol::lol::lol::lol:


And then after Molly gives her last ever FOL line to Margo, she turns her head away from the camera and gave one of those classic Molly Ringwald eye rolls. Molly was such a happy child in season 1, there is not even a hint of happiness in this episode.

I do not see signs of unhappiness, here, but it's true that she was exceedingly unhappy with her new role.

As far as we know, there was never any "not getting along" or "disputes" between Molly and Mindy. And Molly never said the words Mindy was "a mean girl". She just had to give an answer to "Who was the mean girl on the set?", and she obviously was desperately trying to come up with SOME sort of answer to answer the question for the sake of being asked it, and she answered in a way that was obvious that she was just saying Mindy just to say someone, because that's the closest she could get. I liked that. She didn't just go, "Oh, Mindy!" :lol: She had to REACH for an answer, and then she couldn't even say anything bad about Mindy. All she could say she was she was "intimidated" by her. That's it. Just intimidated. :)

I also don't see any "icy stares". And as far as Margo, I see it as Molly Parker being uncomfortable with Margo continuing to instigate stuff.

I can though see the theory of Molly Ringwald's performance being hampered by her humiliation and bitterness, but not to the point of it overwpowering her. "Just enough", lol.

I would like to see the Molly/Mindy thing covered in the Reelz FOL Documentary. While I'm glad they got together as adults, and Molly could now see that Mindy was a nice person, it did seem as though Molly thought Mindy was perhaps mean, based on her response. Then again, maybe she was just intimidated by the girl hand-picked by Charlotte to appear on the show: the one who wasn't even in the backdoor pilot, who wasn't even a theater-trained actress or a professional child, and yet still made the cut during the Cast Purge. We all know Molly did not take being Margo's sidekick well... then again, who would? Margo was downright cruel. :lol:

As far as we know, there was never any "not getting along" or "disputes" between Molly and Mindy. And Molly never said the words Mindy was "a mean girl". She just had to give an answer to "Who was the mean girl on the set?", and she obviously was desperately trying to come up with SOME sort of answer to answer the question for the sake of being asked it, and she answered in a way that was obvious that she was just saying Mindy just to say someone, because that's the closest she could get. I liked that. She didn't just go, "Oh, Mindy!" :lol: She had to REACH for an answer, and then she couldn't even say anything bad about Mindy. All she could say she was she was "intimidated" by her. That's it. Just intimidated. :)

I wonder why Molly's lines with Natalie/Mindy were never shown in the final edit?

OMG, 80s Dude, we posted at the same time!

I wonder why Molly's lines with Natalie/Mindy were never shown in the final edit?

It was probably just happenstance. Natalie was at the end of the lunch line. If they want to cut an exchange, it just makes sense to cut the last exchange, at the end of the line.

Is there a script for "Overachieving"? I saw it was listed in the first post, but I don't see it in the group.

Is there a script for "Overachieving"? I saw it was listed in the first post, but I don't see it in the group.

That is because it was never requested, so I never uploaded it. But per your request, I have done so now (https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/group.php?groupid=1)! :)

Merry belated Christmas!

That is because it was never requested, so I never uploaded it. But per your request, I have done so now (https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/group.php?groupid=1)! :)

Merry belated Christmas!

Thanks alot. Happy New Year.

That is because it was never requested

EVERYTHING is requested. By default. :lol:

EVERYTHING is requested. By default. :lol:

Even "Best Sister"? :lol:

Even "Best Sister"? :lol:

:rotflmao:

Ya got me there!

The only reason I would EVER be interested in seeing that script is if there were any changes in lines of Mrs. Garrett and the core four, or any Lost Girls who were miraculously originally scripted. In short, anyone who was NOT the guest star, lol (no offense to the guest star, it's just my utter aversion to the very plot).