Recently I purchased a massive Unsolved Mysteries DVD collection. I have been in the mood to binge so really good segments. What are the absolute best, most memorable segments you've seen? Something that left you terrified or thinking about it for some time after

The Circleville Letter Writer case is probably at the top of my list. I can vividly remember to this day remember watching it as it aired with my grandmother in her living room and how it captivated me even then. I've never forgotten it.

The Matthew Chase case. I can remember watching it as a kid and how frightening that photograph at the ATM was with his presumed captor and murderer standing right behind him.

The Wacker Case sticks out just because it's so odd and unique. So many theories abound and you're not quite sure what the truth is. It's fun to speculate though.

The Blind River Rest Stop Murder. I would say hands down this gets my vote for the scariest segment. That computer generated composite drawing of the perpetrator is haunting. Gord McAlister is truly one of the most sympathetic human beings you'll ever come across. You just want to reach through the screen and give him as a hug as you hear him describe watching his wife and life companion be gunned down right infront of him and how he doesn't really care if he lives or dies because life without her just isn't the same.

Those are the top of my list that have continually stuck with me over the years.

Ugh Steve Dahl was soooooo handsome in the Matt Chase segment
I think they were dating.

Sharon Kinne for obvious reasons. Shes batshit. The whole case is batshit. But the acting is legendary.

Nelson DeCloud and Elizabeth Ortiz are also very iconic segments.

Dexter Stefonek is just so sad to me. An older guy who recently lost his wife is driving back home across no man's land all alone and is offed by some random degenerate.

The Stanley Gryziec case is sad in much the same way--that sad piano theme that comes on as they're loading him into the ambulance and the camera pans back on his grief-stricken wife gets me every time....(there's also the reputed mob/gambling connection that was alluded to in a thread on the boards here that is still quite intriguing)

For me, theses are the ones:

-Kevin Ives and Don Henry
-Bobbi Oberholtzer and Annette Schnee
-Christi Nichols
-A.J. Breaux
-Rhonda Hinson

Wow, I've never tried to narrow down a list of the cases that have stuck with me the most but I'll give it a shot.

-Terri McClure
-Tommy Zeigler
-O'Neal Moore
-Selena Edon
-Circleville Writer
-Paul Ferrell/Cathy Ford
-Charlie Anderson
-Kristi Gunderson Lee
-Veronica Jefferson
-Assassination of Huey Long
-Brushy Bill Roberts/Billy the Kid
-Butch Cassidy/William T. Philips
-Tracy Wofford-Bunn
-Tara Calico

Too many to count, but I'll narrow down to one: Amy Billig. Her mother went on such a brave crusade to find her and bring her home, yet 44 years later she has never been found. Reading Without a Trace was really gut-wrenching. Her parents spent so much time and money trying to find her, and were preyed upon by people who just wanted money. Then you add Henry Blair into the mix. Imagine if UM had touched on those horrible phone calls he made for nearly two decades to torment Susan Billig? It just adds another heartbreaking layer to the case.

Personally, I think she encountered foul play shortly after her disappearance and the biker sightings were probably all false/mistaken identity. I believe some people had good intentions (such as the store clerk who thought Amy kept coming in to buy vegetarian soup) while others were just stringing Susan along to get money. Besides the bikers, Susan was also nearly extorted by two sixteen-year-old twin brothers who demanded funds for her daughter's safe return. Eventually, a biker claimed she was killed/OD'd and then thrown in a swamp. There's no proof of that claim, however.

There's more to the story, but it's a saga with no satisfying ending. I do hope that someday her family will have answers, but there likely won't be unless someone talks.

This is a great question OP, and honestly my answer is the same as WD's...too many to count, lol. Some of the cases that have haunted me over the years are the Matt Chase and Patsy Wright murders. Those segments put me off night visits to the ATM, and cough syrup for years *shudder*.

I've also been deeply moved by the Kerstetter disappearance and the Matt Flores case. Same with the Foguth and Merrifield murders. And good lord the Mike Emert murder and Bible/Freeman case bothered me for years! I was relieved to see those finally get solved. I also avidly follow the Huisentruit case.

See what I mean?? Too many to count...

The David Hurley case has always disturbed me. The Wacker case as well.

Fritz and the Soldiers
Roxanne and Christopher Jeeves
Patsy Wright
Orange Socks
IH 70 Killer
Tara Breckenridge
christy nichols
"debbie"
stephanie booker
ohio truck driver segment
charles morgan
matt flores

Too many to count, but I'll narrow down to one: Amy Billig. Her mother went on such a brave crusade to find her and bring her home, yet 44 years later she has never been found. Reading Without a Trace was really gut-wrenching. Her parents spent so much time and money trying to find her, and were preyed upon by people who just wanted money. Then you add Henry Blair into the mix. Imagine if UM had touched on those horrible phone calls he made for nearly two decades to torment Susan Billig? It just adds another heartbreaking layer to the case.

Personally, I think she encountered foul play shortly after her disappearance and the biker sightings were probably all false/mistaken identity. I believe some people had good intentions (such as the store clerk who thought Amy kept coming in to buy vegetarian soup) while others were just stringing Susan along to get money. Besides the bikers, Susan was also nearly extorted by two sixteen-year-old twin brothers who demanded funds for her daughter's safe return. Eventually, a biker claimed she was killed/OD'd and then thrown in a swamp. There's no proof of that claim, however.

There's more to the story, but it's a saga with no satisfying ending. I do hope that someday her family will have answers, but there likely won't be unless someone talks.
I have seen this segment several times, but I watched this segment today and it felt like it was my first time watching it.

The Tanya VanCuylenborg and Jay Cook murders. The segment is creepy as heck and the thought of an innocent young couple out on their first overnight trip, being murdered by some psychopath really gets to me. I'm so glad that the guy has been captured through genetic genealogy. I believe the case is going to trial next April. I think he's only been charged with Tanya's murder and the prosecutors are working on getting him charged with Jay's murder too. Lets keep our fingers crossed.

Recently I purchased a massive Unsolved Mysteries DVD collection.

Did you get it from Ioffer? I recently purchased a huge DVD collection from there. I love it!! I don't have Amazon Prime so the DVDs are the perfect option for me.

There's a number that really pique my interest, but two that are more local to me and one of them never even made it on Unsolved Mysteries, other than as a web entry.

First is the Heirs of Walter Rice and the second is the Blue Ridge Savings Murders.. Which many outside the area have likely never heard of.. But 3 people shot to death in a bank branch in 2003.. Still unresolved. And the building is still there today, vacant. I believe Blue Ridge Savings failed the government stress tests after 2008 and was forced to sell.

https://goo.gl/maps/UrLLQ4QfjHU2

The Marie Hilley segment for sure. Watch it if only for the acting, Taylor Simpson-Wood as Hilley is wonderful! Very well-made segment imo.

The ones that stuck out for me as a kid (like I still remembered them as an adult, so they must have had some impact compared to other segments):

Elizabeth Campbell
Amy Billig
Connecticut River Valley Killer
Wadada
Ohio Prostitute Killer
Bonnie Wilder

Frontera
Maria Socoro LaPine
Amy Billig
Patsy Wright
EAR
Amber Schultz

I have many!

Circleville Writer
Cindy James
Debra Poe
The Wackers
Cindy Anderson
Doreen Picard/Susan Laferte
Wendy Camp
Son of Sam
Annette Burnside
Tallman Ghost
Look at it Omar
Angie Hammond
Ohio Prostitute Killer
Boston Rapist
I 70 Killer
Connecticut Valley Killer
Jerry Bright
L'enfant
Judy Himes

There are a ton of them but Star Palumbo really sticks with me. She doesn't come up on here much

Adam Hecht
Kari Lynn Nixon (https://www.pressrepublican.com/news/local_news/mother-pushes-to-keep-daughter-s-killer-in-prison/article_9ef7e85f-0b79-5047-8748-fa9842ba06fb.html)
Tommy Burkett (I think likely suicide but possible cover-up of something)
Danny Casolaro (I think likely suicide)
Tommy Zeigler
Cindy Anderson
Kurt Sova
Tim Molnar
Nyleen Kay Marshall

The most compelling UM cases to me were:

Jeremy Bright
Cindy James
Dave Bocks
Keith Warren
Kurt Sova
Danny Casolaro
Lisa Bishop (Freedon)
Amy Bradley
Jesslyn Rich
Arnold Archambeau and Ruby Bruguier
Patricia Meehan
Angela Hammond
Charles Southern
Don Henry and Kevin Ives
Cynthia Anderson
Leonard Dirickson
Tami Lynn Leppard
Dick Hansen
Eric Tamiyasu

Kurt Sova - all those sightings before they found his body
Tara Calico - ugh, that Polarioid...!
The Circleville Letters - "the joke is on you. Ha. Ha."
Debra Poe - Megadeath guy!
The Mad Butcher of Kingsbury Run - Elliot Ness and decapitations
Jean Elroy - despite the heavy-handed narration parts by James Elroy

There was also a case of a guy who disappeared from some form of metal refining plant - it wasn't Dexter Stefonek and the missing platinum, though. This guy apparently was going to be a whistleblower and expose the company's unsafe practices (or something to that effect), and he went missing. Then they began to find human remains in one of the smelting or refining furnaces, and they believe he was either pushed in there, or that he was killed and that the body was disposed of inside the furnace. That one stuck with me for some reason.

There was also a case of a guy who disappeared from some form of metal refining plant - it wasn't Dexter Stefonek and the missing platinum, though. This guy apparently was going to be a whistleblower and expose the company's unsafe practices (or something to that effect), and he went missing. Then they began to find human remains in one of the smelting or refining furnaces, and they believe he was either pushed in there, or that he was killed and that the body was disposed of inside the furnace. That one stuck with me for some reason.

I remember that one! I can't remember the victim's name, but I definitely remember the story. What really gets me about that story was that the family couldn't bury the victim's remains because they were too radioactive.

I remember that one! I can't remember the victim's name, but I definitely remember the story. What really gets me about that story was that the family couldn't bury the victim's remains because they were too radioactive.

Dave Bocks. http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Dave_Bocks

Sadly, this case is still unsolved.

Too many to count, but I'll narrow down to one: Amy Billig. Her mother went on such a brave crusade to find her and bring her home, yet 44 years later she has never been found. Reading Without a Trace was really gut-wrenching. Her parents spent so much time and money trying to find her, and were preyed upon by people who just wanted money. Then you add Henry Blair into the mix. Imagine if UM had touched on those horrible phone calls he made for nearly two decades to torment Susan Billig? It just adds another heartbreaking layer to the case.

Personally, I think she encountered foul play shortly after her disappearance and the biker sightings were probably all false/mistaken identity. I believe some people had good intentions (such as the store clerk who thought Amy kept coming in to buy vegetarian soup) while others were just stringing Susan along to get money. Besides the bikers, Susan was also nearly extorted by two sixteen-year-old twin brothers who demanded funds for her daughter's safe return. Eventually, a biker claimed she was killed/OD'd and then thrown in a swamp. There's no proof of that claim, however.

There's more to the story, but it's a saga with no satisfying ending. I do hope that someday her family will have answers, but there likely won't be unless someone talks.

The phone call creep, Henry Blair, when Amy had written in her diary that "Hank" wanted her to go to South America, and "Hank" is a nickname for Henry and Blair had ties to South America--too much coincidence!

Kurt Sova - all those sightings before they found his body
Tara Calico - ugh, that Polarioid...!
The Circleville Letters - "the joke is on you. Ha. Ha."
Debra Poe - Megadeath guy!
The Mad Butcher of Kingsbury Run - Elliot Ness and decapitations
Jean Elroy - despite the heavy-handed narration parts by James Elroy

There was also a case of a guy who disappeared from some form of metal refining plant - it wasn't Dexter Stefonek and the missing platinum, though. This guy apparently was going to be a whistleblower and expose the company's unsafe practices (or something to that effect), and he went missing. Then they began to find human remains in one of the smelting or refining furnaces, and they believe he was either pushed in there, or that he was killed and that the body was disposed of inside the furnace. That one stuck with me for some reason.

Was that even Tara in the Polaroid? They determined the boy was not Mike. If the girl was not Tara, who the hell were those poor kids? Has anyone else claimed to know them? To this day can't stand the sight of a white van!

Angie Hammond. Breaks my heart every time, especially the look in Rob's eyes. That broke him, I think.

I thought the ominous phone calls from the East Area Rapist were among the more creepier of the mysterious calls.

-Keith Reinhard/Tom Young: no other story comes close, for me. I first saw it on Lifetime 25 years ago this coming summer, and it still has such a creepiness (both the actual story and the segment). And the fact that over 30 years have gone by, and Keith Reinhard is still missing. Not even a sign of his remains.
-The Bunk Bed Ghost story/Fall 1988: The ghost in this segment seems especially ominous, compared to other ghost stories on UM over the years (and it's a far, far cry from the Mann Family ghost story of just five years later).
-Stanley Grezyec (SIC?): It just felt like the police were either grossly incompetent or in on it, and there was a serious criminal element to it. Then, along with Esther Grezyec dying so soon of a broken heart.
-Phillip Innis Frazier: The fact that, just like with Reinhard/Young, his killer has never been found and it too has been over 30 years. Anyone who can kill like that has no empathy or remorse.
-The Casie Nicole: The angle of the boat picking up the other boat mates and kidnapping them, followed by the weird calls. Where are those other men? It would have been different if they were lost at sea, but to think that they survived the boat sinking and then to encounter nefarious people at sea.
-Rogest Cain: The saddest UM story I ever saw, made even sadder by the production values. I've got to hand it to UM, back in those days (late 1980s/early 1990s), they could create any emotion, but still, the story is so sad. He seemed like such an honest, hard-working man, and then to have a brain issue (or so we think) and disappear. Sadly, I doubt if he would be alive today, and will he family ever find him after three decades have passed?
-Leah Roberts: This one just has such a creepy feel to it. I think she disappeared, and according to an update after the UM segment aired (and Amazon did not add this to the segment), the wire to the starter relay was cut, leading to the car being driven off the hill without obvious means. But she still hasn't been found after about 19 years; no small feat in approximately two decades of increasing surveillance and being in the era of the internet, social media, smartphones, etc.

Was that even Tara in the Polaroid? They determined the boy was not Mike. If the girl was not Tara, who the hell were those poor kids? Has anyone else claimed to know them? To this day can't stand the sight of a white van!

I highly doubt it was Tara Calico. But yeah, even these days, if I see a white van in a parking lot, I immediately look at the ground for Polariods...

I have three that I’ve seen either as a kid or recently that have stuck with me.

1. Look At It Omar. I was about 7 or 8 when it first aired and so it really creeped me out, I always wondered what happened with that fire. I was happy when I saw it again on Prime that they had solved the case.

2. Alberta Elaine. This I don’t remember seeing as a kid but it has stuck with me since I saw it recently on Prime. First of all, I just had a daughter born so the idea of not being here as she grows up would be horrible to me. I can’t imagine what that guy went through all those years. As the case played out on tv, all I could think was that we will get some happy reunion video at the end. Sort of expect. Then it ends and the update is that the daughter was murdered in an explosion 30 years earlier. Ouch. Almost felt like a gut punch because that guy looking for his daughter seeemed like a really good guy and you wanted him to have a happy ending.

3. Men in Black. I was a kid when this came out and I thought it was creepy. Especially since my cousin was a huge conspiracy nut and since he was in his late teens at that point was able to talk me in to believing anything. I recently rewatched it. As an adult I could just sit back and laugh.

I've mentioned in this thread that the David Hurley case haunts me the most. To elaborate on that it's the circumstances. Not just the shooting, but when he arrived home, his wife woke up to his voice in the middle of the night and to him telling her he'd been shot. That to me is one of the creepiest reenactments ever. I can't begin to imagine what went through his wife's head at that moment. Maybe I'm crazy but the utter sadness/pointlessness of all of it is why I find it haunts me so much. I pray they find the scum that did it. :mad:

I've mentioned in this thread that the David Hurley case haunts me the most. To elaborate on that it's the circumstances. Not just the shooting, but when he arrived home, his wife woke up to his voice in the middle of the night and to him telling her he'd been shot. That to me is one of the creepiest reenactments ever. I can't begin to imagine what went through his wife's head at that moment. Maybe I'm crazy but the utter sadness/pointlessness of all of it is why I find it haunts me so much. I pray they find the scum that did it. :mad:

It was a senseless shooting. And another tragic factor was that he appeared to be doing fine once he arrived at the hospital when out of nowhere, he went in to acute cardiac arrest.

According to the Unsolved wiki page, authorities stated that they have a suspect in the case that they believe is responsible, but that they do not have enough evidence to charge him. :mad:

The Blind River Rest Stop Murder. I would say hands down this gets my vote for the scariest segment. That computer generated composite drawing of the perpetrator is haunting. Gord McAlister is truly one of the most sympathetic human beings you'll ever come across. You just want to reach through the screen and give him as a hug as you hear him describe watching his wife and life companion be gunned down right infront of him and how he doesn't really care if he lives or dies because life without her just isn't the same.


The Blind River Rest Stop is one of those segments that I just can’t handle. For all the jokes about the silly UFO and ghost re-enactments, Blind River proves that the people involved with the show could produce a damn good, low-budget horror short. Gord’s interview just makes it even more harrowing; you can see the raw pain carved onto his face, and you know he really means it when he says he wished he had died that night with his wife. While I know there is no such thing as closure, I always hoped that Gord somehow managed to make a happy life for himself in the subsequent years and knew some joy.

Though the scariest part of the case for me had to be the complete lack of any clear motive. Yeah, murder is always bad, but it’s easier to understand, once you have some kind of motive to work with. Like “I killed him for the insurance money” or “I killed her because how dare she think of leaving me for another man” or “I just wanted to rob someone but they put up more of a fight than I thought things went to hell,” something along those lines. Even “I’m a sadist who enjoys hurting people,” while scary, would make some sense.

The Blind River Killer didn’t get anything from the crime, except for the satisfaction that comes from killing two complete strangers. If he did get any money or jewelry from his victims, it was probably barely enough to pay for a few meals.

I would have to say the Wackerhagen case also sticks with me. The police seem to have an idea who the culprit of the murder(s) is, but won't release the information publicly. After Jayme Closs was rescued in WI after her abductor had murdered her parents and held her in captivity, I couldn't help but think of this case and wonder if we'll ever find out who abducted the Wackerhagens and killed Dub's girlfriend.

I would have to say the Wackerhagen case also sticks with me. The police seem to have an idea who the culprit of the murder(s) is, but won't release the information publicly. After Jayme Closs was rescued in WI after her abductor had murdered her parents and held her in captivity, I couldn't help but think of this case and wonder if we'll ever find out who abducted the Wackerhagens and killed Dub's girlfriend.


I think you need to say "abducted and killed the Wackerhagens".. Not a chance in hell they're alive after all this time.

I wish we knew what evidence they uncovered a few years ago. My suspicion on this is that Dub was involved, knowingly or not, with drugs via him being a trucker and Chance was taken to keep Dub in line. "You don't do what we say, we'll kill the boy"

Of course, once his usefulness was over.. Both were killed.

I was in the shower this morning thinking about the Megan Curl case. What a horrible and sad case. What makes it even more strange that the guy wasn't ever found even though the neighbor got an excellent look at him.

Elizabeth Campbell and Annette Cayedito.

There are many I often think of even now.

Debbie Wolfe, that one gave me nightmares! Very badly botched case.

Orange socks, could that not be solved with DNA, as the victims were found in fairly good condition?

Jeremy Bright, sounds like his friend Johnny took a secret to his grave.

That guy who ended up in the river for not buying the other guy's truck, which may have involved a ghost or just a newspaper reader with a hunch.

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Sharon Marshall, finally identified as Suzanne Sevakis. I wasn't sure this case would ever be solved. Suzanne was a very sweet, smart girl who could have had a wonderful future if Franklin Delano Floyd hadn't kidnapped her. The abuse she suffered during her short life is just heartbreaking. Franklin Delano Floyd is a soulless monster.

The segments that stuck with me the longest:
I-70 killer(the bridal shop in wichita is not far from where my in laws used to live)
David Hurley(happened not too far from me)
Michael Rosenblum(also local)
Christophe Day. the father just broke my heart. I know that on here i remember reading that the sister was thinking that he may not be dead and the mother was just saying so, but i saw no outcome of that search.

Orange socks, could that not be solved with DNA, as the victims were found in fairly good condition?

When the Jay Cook & Tanya Van Cuylenborg case was finally recently solved after 31 years thanks to forensic genealogy, I began to get excited over the thought of this also being used to solve the orange sock murders.

Bobbie Oberholtzer fought back against her attacker with a large key ring and he bled over her mitten...

http://www.rockymountaincoldcase.com/images/oberholtzer_7_glovetissue50.jpg

If investigators are doing this kind of testing, they're keeping quiet about it. Identifying this man would close the chapter on the Oberholtzer side of the case. I'm not sure it would for Annette Schnee, outside of a confession. While it appears she had been raped because her clothes were in disarray, there was no DNA testing in 1982. Her body had been in the creek for 6 months before being found and I'm not sure what could have been tested.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that developments come along. This segment still haunts me 25 years later.

When the Jay Cook & Tanya Van Cuylenborg case was finally recently solved after 31 years thanks to forensic genealogy, I began to get excited over the thought of this also being used to solve the orange sock murders.

Bobbie Oberholtzer fought back against her attacker with a large key ring and he bled over her mitten...

http://www.rockymountaincoldcase.com/images/oberholtzer_7_glovetissue50.jpg

If investigators are doing this kind of testing, they're keeping quiet about it. Identifying this man would close the chapter on the Oberholtzer side of the case. I'm not sure it would for Annette Schnee, outside of a confession. While it appears she had been raped because her clothes were in disarray, there was no DNA testing in 1982. Her body had been in the creek for 6 months before being found and I'm not sure what could have been tested.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that developments come along. This segment still haunts me 25 years later.
Absolutely. I agree with this. I think this is one that I expect will be solved because of the dna evidence.

Patsy wright is another one I always go back to because it’s in my hometown and aside from the UM segment there is not much media coverage that I know of. Robin did a good podcast about patsy.

Amy Bechtel is another case that stays with me and I have really wondered about it of late. I am also into running and the outdoors. she deserves justice.

The man in my avi comes to mind. I’ve always wondered if he lived a sad/lonely life. Did anyone ever wonder what happened to him? Tried to reach out to him & never did but not realizing or wondering why. Did he have a family? Not even immediate family but any cousins? Just a sad case all around

Maybe if filmrise had picked this up, someone would’ve remembered say an uncle who went missing & it was him but back then they were too young to realize what was going on

Elizabeth Campbell and Annette Cayedito.

These two I always wondered about. 1) Annette- I used to live about 45 miles from Gallup in the heart of Navajo country so I was fascinated with the case when I first saw it. My gut feeling is the Mom knew something. However It could of been a freak that stalked the neighborhood. 2) Elizabeth - the case was just creepy and the whole thing scared me. And I was in my 20’s at the time. I resent her boyfriend for not calling her parents or stopping her from taking off.
On top of that, both cases had twists like the eyewitness accounts and in Annette’s case the phone calls. Been a fan of the show ever since Robert Stack hosted it. Made my Wednesday’s more interesting

I think I watched Doogie Howser afterwords to blunt some of the freaky cases on UM. lol

Most of the folks here have listed the genuinely creepy segments.
Here's some that haven't been brought up:

-Bill Henderson
-John & Linda Sohus
-Dennis Depue
-Beverly McGowan
-Signal Mountain Murders
-Ethel Kidd
-David Fisher
-Wendy Camp

I'll second these suggestions:

-Dexter Stefonek
-Dale Kerstetter
-Don Henry & Kevin Ives
-Patricia Meehan
-Phillip Fraser
-Redwood City Arsonist
-Dick Hanson
-Matthew Chase
-Dave Bocks
-Cindy James
-Judy Himes

While many, MANY cases have stuck with me through the years, there are some cases that are harder to digest if you really think about how much the victims suffered.

Lisa Marie Kimmel, Gus Hoffman and Ashley Freeman and Lauria Bible were tortured for days by their captures before being murdered. And as far as I know, 3 of those 4 bodies have yet to be found.

Killing is horrible enough. That's a given. But people who take THAT much delight in making their victims suffer? Hell is too good of a place for them.

The story of the Craun kids. They were the 7 kids who were taken out of their non-heated, non-plumbed home and taken in by the local police for a while to live in the jail until the kids could find good homes. I love how the Police officers let the kids basically have the run of the jail and the yard, played with them and were very kind to them. Even giving them candy bars on Christmas with their meals. I feel they did the best to help these kids feel normal in a very abnormal situation. God bless all of those involved.

The Lost Loves segments like Charlie Best, Cathy Loving, Judy Davis and Becky Terry all stick with me.

In terms of UD/Murder/Wanted, hands down, Beverly McGowan for more reasons than the "Sam" composite sketch.

1. The brutality of it. Senseless. Absolutely vicious, and for what????
2. Having a sibling myself and not being able to even think about this happening to them. I feel for Beverly's sister and brother.
3. Elaine Parent and the way she chillingly, convincingly, scammed everyone. Having met (nonlethal) people like this, I loathe them.
4. Lack of closure for Beverly's family because Elaine took the coward's way out.

The Lost Loves segments like Charlie Best, Cathy Loving, Judy Davis and Becky Terry all stick with me.

I actually went out recently and found Madeline Underwood's grave. She died local to me. Sadly.. Unmarked.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/263323887/madeline-opel-fentress_house

The lost loves that were solved were always great. Even the ones with sad outcomes.. I know there was one where they found the person had died in Alaska.. And another where a boyfriend/husband had blown them both up in a car.. But.. At least the person searching got resolution.

I actually went out recently and found Madeline Underwood's grave. She died local to me. Sadly.. Unmarked.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/263323887/madeline-opel-fentress_house

The lost loves that were solved were always great. Even the ones with sad outcomes.. I know there was one where they found the person had died in Alaska.. And another where a boyfriend/husband had blown them both up in a car.. But.. At least the person searching got resolution.

Wow, a local connection to Madeline! I'm so sorry it was unmarked.

Wow, a local connection to Madeline! I'm so sorry it was unmarked.

Madeline had quite the life.. I mean, both her and Ada did..

I believe that Madeline and Ada lived next door to each other in Chicago when they were 18-19 or so.. Both were married.

Madeline married Bobby Fentress who.. Was arrested and went to jail for murder for quite some time. I know he wound up being released and actually did some good, working with at risk youth trying to keep them out of trouble.. His mother owned a jewelry store as I recall.

They divorced and she married Bobby Gene House who was stationed at Great Lakes Naval station.. When he separated from the Navy, they moved to Greenville, South Carolina and divorced sometime in the late 60's or early 70's.

They had several children. One passed away back in 2011 but the rest are alive. I've talked to several people in a Greenville history facebook group who remembered her. None of them knew her story. Even after the UM episode they never really connected her to being THAT Madeline Underwood. Don't think she hid it or anything.. Just.. Not something that would come up in conversation.

The best segments are the ones that no matter which way you look at it, no matter what theory you have, theres a dozen things that tell you you're right but twelve things that tell you you're wrong.

The Cindy James case is like that, there are many things that tell you that she was doing all this to herself, yet things that tell you that someone else must have been involved.

The same goes for danny casalero, he was clearly getting death threats, but i doubt how much he really knew and why go to a hotel in the middle of nowhere?

One of the cases that has always stood out for me is the black hope cemetery curse, i don't believe in ghosts but something was going on there.

Madeline had quite the life.. I mean, both her and Ada did..

I believe that Madeline and Ada lived next door to each other in Chicago when they were 18-19 or so.. Both were married.

Madeline married Bobby Fentress who.. Was arrested and went to jail for murder for quite some time. I know he wound up being released and actually did some good, working with at risk youth trying to keep them out of trouble.. His mother owned a jewelry store as I recall.

They divorced and she married Bobby Gene House who was stationed at Great Lakes Naval station.. When he separated from the Navy, they moved to Greenville, South Carolina and divorced sometime in the late 60's or early 70's.

They had several children. One passed away back in 2011 but the rest are alive. I've talked to several people in a Greenville history facebook group who remembered her. None of them knew her story. Even after the UM episode they never really connected her to being THAT Madeline Underwood. Don't think she hid it or anything.. Just.. Not something that would come up in conversation.

Wow, even after her childhood and the UM reunion on one of the most iconic shows of all time, she still had what you might call an adventurous journey. And maybe she was just too modest to bring it up or make it the central topic of conversation. She was busy living her life and this was just one part of it. Albeit a major milestone.

The best segments are the ones that no matter which way you look at it, no matter what theory you have, theres a dozen things that tell you you're right but twelve things that tell you you're wrong.

The Cindy James case is a little like that, there are many things that tell you that she was doing all this to herself, yet things that tell you that someone else must have been involved.

The same goes for danny casalero, he was clearly getting death threats, but i doubt how much he really knew and why go to a hotel in the middle of nowhere?

One of the cases that has always stood out for me is the black hope cemetery curse, i don't believe in ghosts but something was going on there.

I agree about the complex cases. The Wackers, Danny Casolaro, Cindy James, Amy Bradley, Patsy Wright, Tami Lynn Leppert, Debby Race, Kurt Sova, Dale Kerstetter and some of the business/government related cases, Megan Curl, Su Taraskiewicz. These are the ones we debate in multi-page threads on this board and that books and podcasts still argue over.

I agree about the complex cases. The Wackers, Danny Casolaro, Cindy James, Amy Bradley, Patsy Wright, Tami Lynn Leppert, Debby Race, Kurt Sova, Dale Kerstetter and some of the business/government related cases, Megan Curl, Su Taraskiewicz. These are the ones we debate in multi-page threads on this board and that books and podcasts still argue over.


Yeah, I've always been fascinated by the Danny Casolaro case. last year i watched the netflix mini series. Now i've come to believe that it was maybe a lot more simple.

Yeah, I've always been fascinated by the Danny Casolaro case. last year i watched the netflix mini series. Now i've come to believe that it was maybe a lot more simple.

Hold the phone, there's a Netflix documentary??? I have to check that out.

Hold the phone, there's a Netflix documentary??? I have to check that out.

It's called "american conspiracy: the octopus murders"

i think it's 5 or 6 episodes, it's these 2 guys who become obsessed with the conspiracy and try to carry on what danny started, they take his notes, his papers and go on from there.

they interview his family, friends, speak to people involved, it's pretty good!

it lead me to believe that danny was murdered, but it wasn't some CIA conspiracy, rather that he just pissed off the wrong people.

Wow, even after her childhood and the UM reunion on one of the most iconic shows of all time, she still had what you might call an adventurous journey. And maybe she was just too modest to bring it up or make it the central topic of conversation. She was busy living her life and this was just one part of it. Albeit a major milestone.

Madeline died in 1978, so.. She had already passed well before the time the UM episode aired.

Ada is the one who reunited with Charlie Best and his surviving kids. She lived until 1997 I believe.. Died of lung cancer in.. Indiana, I think and was cremated. I found her Death Certificate.

Their sister Louise, who stayed with relatives during the whole time Ada and Madeline were at the Bests' house, died shortly after Madeline in 1979. She lived in Chicago as well and was cremated as well.

Their father, Thomas, died in 1963.

The best segments are the ones that no matter which way you look at it, no matter what theory you have, theres a dozen things that tell you you're right but twelve things that tell you you're wrong.


I'll take "Things that start a fight on the internet" for $100, Alex.

Madeline died in 1978, so.. She had already passed well before the time the UM episode aired.

Ada is the one who reunited with Charlie Best and his surviving kids. She lived until 1997 I believe.. Died of lung cancer in.. Indiana, I think and was cremated. I found her Death Certificate.

Their sister Louise, who stayed with relatives during the whole time Ada and Madeline were at the Bests' house, died shortly after Madeline in 1979. She lived in Chicago as well and was cremated as well.

Their father, Thomas, died in 1963.

Oh that's right. I remember that now about Madeline.