I'm just curious to know if this is anywhere such as YouTube and whatnot.

Thank you.

I have never seen them available for download, or on YT.

So it must be hard to find then, because I see nothing but the original version and Dennis Farina when looking.

Really peed off that none of them appeared on the Amazon seasons, yet we had loads of James Bond's wife who was hopeless.

Really peed off that none of them appeared on the Amazon seasons, yet we had loads of James Bond's wife who was hopeless.

So even Amazon is just Stack and Farina too?

So even Amazon is just Stack and Farina too?

I only got the Stack ones-Keely Shaye Smith is on loads of them & even Lu Hanessian-who was a much better fit than Mrs Bond.

I'm just curious to know if this is anywhere such as YouTube and whatnot.

Thank you.

Here is a link to Virginia Madsen segment(s) from UM. Its at a different site. Let me know when u get it and if you saw it ok or not. Thanks.

https://archive.org/details/um.11.vhs/UNSOLVED+MYSTERIES+-+SEASON+11/um.s11.e2.mp4

Thats a good site for finding good WMV/MP4 media isnt it?? (Its nice they dont block HTTP!!)

Bobby Stack was the BEST host on that show.....

Wow, I had no idea the show moved to CBS for a few years after NBC dropped it in 1997. I don't even remember the CBS version or knew it existed till now. Interstingly enough its had 5 networks over the years. I think by far NBC's version was the best, with Lifetime doing an admirable job as well. No one and I mean no one was every as good narrating and story telling like Robert Stack was.

Wow, I had no idea the show moved to CBS for a few years after NBC dropped it in 1997. I don't even remember the CBS version or knew it existed till now. Interstingly enough its had 5 networks over the years. I think by far NBC's version was the best, with Lifetime doing an admirable job as well. No one and I mean no one was every as good narrating and story telling like Robert Stack was.

It only ran on CBS for 2 seasons from 1997-1999, at the same time it was running on Lifetime, though I don't believe Lifetime started producing new episodes till it was officially canceled on CBS.

I think most would agree that the NBC years were the best. It also conincided with the time that the show had the highest ratings, highest budget, and best health for Robert Stack.

In fact the show was originally produced on film and was of higher quality, in my opinion, during the years it was a top 20 show. One of the producers mentioned during the Agatha Christie segment, around 1990-1994, that they actually had a fairly decent budget to get vintage cars, clothes etc, for period pieces like that one.

I think the CBS and Lifetime segments were switched from film to tape, and it was also evident that Stack was getting older, not his fault, just the way life is.

As an actor, I liked Denis Farina, but I never watched during the Spike TV years. It always seemed like they were omitting key details and adding cheap graphics to make old Stack-era episodes seem new.

I don't recall if Spike ever produced completely original episodes or not.

Here is a link to Virginia Madsen segment(s) from UM. Its at a different site. Let me know when u get it and if you saw it ok or not. Thanks.

https://archive.org/details/um.11.vhs/UNSOLVED+MYSTERIES+-+SEASON+11/um.s11.e2.mp4

Thank you for the link.

It only ran on CBS for 2 seasons from 1997-1999, at the same time it was running on Lifetime, though I don't believe Lifetime started producing new episodes till it was officially canceled on CBS.

I think most would agree that the NBC years were the best. It also conincided with the time that the show had the highest ratings, highest budget, and best heath for Robert Stack.

In fact the show was originally produced on film and was of higher quality, in my opinion, during the years it was a top 20 show. One of the producers mentioned during the Agatha Christie segment, around 1990-1994, that they actually had a fairly decent budget to get vintage cars, clothes etc, for period pieces like that one.

I think the CBS and Lifetime segments were switched from film to tape, and it was also evident that Stack was getting older, not his fault, just the way life is.

As an actor, I liked Denis Farina, but I never watched during the Spike TV years. It always seemed like they were omitting key details and adding cheap graphics to make old Stack-era episodes seem new.

I don't recall if Spike ever produced completely original episodes or not.

It felt to me like CBS was trying to reinvent it as their version of The X-Files complete with Mulder and Scully vibe.

I think I read that many of Madsen's segments were redubbed by Stack for Lifetime reruns. I wish someone would speak on why they erased her so completely from the legacy of the show.

Farina's era never produced anything original.

It felt to me like CBS was trying to reinvent it as their version of The X-Files complete with Mulder and Scully vibe.

I think I read that many of Madsen's segments were redubbed by Stack for Lifetime reruns. I wish someone would speak on why they erased her so completely from the legacy of the show.

Farina's era never produced anything original.

Because producers would have to negotiate a new contract with her to her royalties/lump sump to have any episodes/segments with her in it in the Filmrise syndication package. Either theirs no money in the budget or its too much of a hassle right now

Anyone have in their Unsolved Mysteries collection the segments of Nyleen Marshall,Bill Rundle,Kari Lynn Nixon,Kristi Krebs,Dale Kerstetter,Patricia Carlton, Trenchcoat Robbers,segments(or any other I didn't mention) with the Lifetime update at the end(blue background,update typed out,creepy theme music playing)?

Or record Lifetime reruns from 1997-2006?

Because producers would have to negotiate a new contract with her to her royalties/lump sump to have any episodes/segments with her in it in the Filmrise syndication package. Either theirs no money in the budget or its too much of a hassle right now

It just seems weird that those details wouldn't have been already included in her original contract. It was the late 90s, the show was already in syndicated repeats locally and globally. Reruns should have been a standard item in her deal, but they've been blacklisting her since the Lifetime era when every show was shooting for syndication number goals.

It just seems weird that those details wouldn't have been already included in her original contract. It was the late 90s, the show was already in syndicated repeats locally and globally. Reruns should have been a standard item in her deal, but they've been blacklisting her since the Lifetime era when every show was shooting for syndication number goals.

Yeah a good example of the bureaucracy of television, even when theirs not much money involved or the original contracts were vague, there's still red tape preventing content from having an official release

I don't recall if Spike ever produced completely original episodes or not.

They never did. The Spike version was merely a series of re-edited versions of old segments.

Personally, I was unhappy with the Spike incarnation. The way UM was presented on primetime was one of the things that made it popular IMHO. Much of the look and feel of the primetime version was retained for the Lifetime incarnation, but those qualities went out the window when Spike picked up the series. As a result, UM was diluted. But it goes to show how a television program can be mismanaged it when falls into the wrong hands.

They never did. The Spike version was merely a series of re-edited versions of old segments.

Personally, I was unhappy with the Spike incarnation. The way UM was presented on primetime was one of the things that made it popular IMHO. Much of the look and feel of the primetime version was retained for the Lifetime incarnation, but those qualities went out the window when Spike picked up the series. As a result, UM was diluted. But it goes to show how a television program can be mismanaged it when falls into the wrong hands.

Thanks for the reply. I don't want to hyjack the initial point of this thread, and I don't have any inside information, but when you talk about being "mismanaged when it falls into the wrong hands", are you referring specifically to SPIKE?

I don't know who owns the rights to UM, but if it is Cosgrove/Meurer, part of me wants to "blame" them for allowing Spike TV and Netflix to revamp the show in any form.

Yet, part of me realizes that if Spike, and later Netflix, open classic UM to a wider audience, it's a good thing, and of course, I'll never clame someone for financially benefiting from content they produced.....Everyone needs money.

If Robert Stack didn't have lesser salary demands than Raymond Burr or Karl Maldin, classic UM would also probably have been completely different.

Thanks for the reply. I don't want to hyjack the initial point of this thread, and I don't have any inside information, but when you talk about being "mismanaged when it falls into the wrong hands", are you referring specifically to SPIKE?

In a sense, yes. I'm not convinced that the Spike network was even legitimately invested in UM. I cite their inconsistent scheduling of it as one of the ways they mishandled the show. It was clear from the get-go that UM was incompatible with the Spike network.

I don't know who owns the rights to UM, but if it is Cosgrove/Meurer, part of me wants to "blame" them for allowing Spike TV and Netflix to revamp the show in any form.

Cosgrove/Meurer Productions owns UM. If they are genuinely to blame, I believe it would be for allowing the show to become an eyesore, which the Spike version certainly was. And if you ask me, I say they caved to Spike.

Yet, part of me realizes that if Spike, and later Netflix, open classic UM to a wider audience, it's a good thing, and of course, I'll never blame someone for financially benefiting from content they produced.....Everyone needs money.

Indeed. I don't have an issue with UM being open to a wider audience, but it always was anyway (at least to me). Of course, if you want your show to do that, you should always exercise caution, because, no matter how well-intentioned, trying to be all things to all people can be a recipe for disaster.

Yeah a good example of the bureaucracy of television, even when theirs not much money involved or the original contracts were vague, there's still red tape preventing content from having an official release

I bet she was a CBS mandated thing that Stack and the producers were probably not happy with but ate to stay in production and that's why they retconned her back out the first chance they could.

In a sense, yes. I'm not convinced that the Spike network was even legitimately invested in UM. I cite their inconsistent scheduling of it as one of the ways they mishandled the show. It was clear from the get-go that UM was incompatible with the Spike network.



Cosgrove/Meurer Productions owns UM. If they are genuinely to blame, I believe it would be for allowing the show to become an eyesore, which the Spike version certainly was. And if you ask me, I say they caved to Spike.



Indeed. I don't have an issue with UM being open to a wider audience, but it always was anyway (at least to me). Of course, if you want your show to do that, you should always exercise caution, because, no matter how well-intentioned, trying to be all things to all people can be a recipe for disaster.


I think with CM and Spike it was a case of "I need to reno my house and the check cleared so whatever"

Spike's mandate was TEEVEE FOR MEHN (polar opposite to Lifetime) and all that atmospheric music and narration was womans junk and had to go. Electric guitars and scan lines cause this is Unsolved Mysteries for MEHN. :D

I think with CM and Spike it was a case of "I need to reno my house and the check cleared so whatever"

Spike's mandate was TEEVEE FOR MEHN (polar opposite to Lifetime) and all that atmospheric music and narration was womans junk and had to go. Electric guitars and scan lines cause this is Unsolved Mysteries for MEHN. :D

You're post made me chuckle. I rarely watched SPIKE and didn't appreciate their rendition of Unsolved Mysteries.

Unsolved Mysteries was one of the main reeasons I ever watched Lifetime, and that continued when Lifetime started producing new episodes of UM.

Of course, streaming and the internet has made channel hopping even easier. I rarely watch one or two channels exclusively and just focus on the shows I enjoy.