There were some episodes where Felice's role was big, and other episodes where her role was small. Which episode was her best work? Which episode do you feel Felice had the best chance to shine?

This is a multiple choice poll, so you can vote for more than one episode, if you can't decide on just one.

Looks like we both picked the same answers except for The Little Chill. She certainly had more substance than Cindy but she wasn't given enough for me to vote that episode.

Looks like we both picked the same answers except for The Little Chill. She certainly had more substance than Cindy but she wasn't given enough for me to vote that episode.
I see what you're saying, Lorimar, but for me there is just enough Nancy to make me feel like she shone, here. She's even the first of "our" Eastland girls to get pregnant. Though I do think much of the episode is Sue Ann-centric.

Wow, even "archival footage"---you definitely took everything into consideration! lol

For me it's no contest, TGS hands down.

Honorable mentions go to "Gossip" and "Dear Me" for a look at her rivalry with Blair and her friendship with Blair, respectively.

Wow, even "archival footage"---you definitely took everything into consideration! lol

Well, I wanted to be as complete as possible. I didn't want anyone complaining later on that they couldn't vote for TWWW2. You could see part of the back of Nancy's head for a few frames.


For me it's no contest, TGS hands down.

That does seem to be the general consensus. Interestingly enough, that's got to be the episode with the most characters: not just the regular cast (minus one teacher), but also the entire DS crew! And yet, Nancy has a good-sized role, here, despite there being exactly 1,000,000 girls! :lol:


Honorable mentions go to "Gossip" and "Dear Me" for a look at her rivalry with Blair and her friendship with Blair, respectively.

Good point about "Dear Me". That seems to be a mostly Tootie-centric episode, but Nancy does get some time to shine, too.

"Gossip" was a very good episode for Nancy. She had a prominent role, and even got some time with an Eastland globe! :lol:

Well, I wanted to be as complete as possible. I didn't want anyone complaining later on that they couldn't vote for TWWW2. You could see part of the back of Nancy's head for a few frames.

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That does seem to be the general consensus. Interestingly enough, that's got to be the episode with the most characters: not just the regular cast (minus one teacher), but also the entire DS crew! And yet, Nancy has a good-sized role, here, despite there being exactly 1,000,000 girls! :lol:

Hahaha! Yes, what irony...the episode in the dorm where there are 1,000,000 girls and some adults, Nancy actually gets the meatiest appearance around! lol...really, they could find a way for her to shine over about 27 people (including the few adults who appear), but they couldn't find a way for her to shine over first 9, then 8 other people?? ('79 and '80 shows, respectively)


Good point about "Dear Me". That seems to be a mostly Tootie-centric episode, but Nancy does get some time to shine, too.

Yup, when I think of Nancy in the cafeteria years, G, DM, and GEM immediately spring to mind.


"Gossip" was a very good episode for Nancy. She had a prominent role, and even got some time with an Eastland globe! :lol:

The only girl who did! With one of the "10, 12" globes! :lol:

:lol:

Interestingly enough, Jerrett Lennon, the original Mark Foster from Step By Step, stated on this board that he gets residual checks from that show, from scenes in the opening credits where just the back of his head/leg/etc can be seen. Since that's the case, it's possible that Felice gets a check for TWWW2, too. (I know Lorimar participated in that thread).


Hahaha! Yes, what irony...the episode in the dorm where there are 1,000,000 girls and some adults, Nancy actually gets the meatiest appearance around! lol...really, they could find a way for her to shine over about 27 people (including the few adults who appear), but they couldn't find a way for her to shine over first 9, then 8 other people?? ('79 and '80 shows, respectively)

I know: it's so weird. "Well, we only have 22 minutes for so many actors..." "But you only had 22 minutes during the pilot, too!" "Well, we're working on a character..." "But I had a character!"

As you recently noted, Felice did well in the backdoor pilot: she had a gamut of different emotions that she managed to portray very well.

The only thing that I can think is that maybe she didn't test well in a focus group, because what we saw on screen couldn't have caused her part to vaporize like it did.


The only girl who did! With one of the "10, 12" globes! :lol:

Hahah!

But I think there must have actually been 10, 12 globes! :lol:

Interestingly enough, Jerrett Lennon, the original Mark Foster from Step By Step, stated on this board that he gets residual checks from that show, from scenes in the opening credits where just the back of his head/leg/etc can be seen. Since that's the case, it's possible that Felice gets a check for TWWW2, too. (I know Lorimar participated in that thread).

Nice for such actors! lol


The only thing that I can think is that maybe she didn't test well in a focus group, because what we saw on screen couldn't have caused her part to vaporize like it did.

I don't know; no one's ever mentioned a focus group, but it is a possibility. So far I've always thought that the writers just ran with these other characters they created---and new character Cindy, and new girl Mindy---and "Nancy" just unintentionally got shoved back to the back burner.


But I think there must have actually been 10, 12 globes! :lol:

Ha!

I don't know; no one's ever mentioned a focus group, but it is a possibility. So far I've always thought that the writers just ran with these other characters they created---and new character Cindy, and new girl Mindy---and "Nancy" just unintentionally got shoved back to the back burner.


How could that sidelining have been unintentional? We saw she had plenty of lines in an episode where there were 13 other actors with lines (the four Drummonds, Mr. Crocker, Mrs. Garrett, Mr. Robinson the board guy, Blair, Molly, Sue Ann, Tootie, Jennifer, and Laura). Yet when there only 10 characters, she couldn't get more than ten lines per episode, outside of "IQ"? She had a phone bit, an umbrella bit, or a putting-on-tight-pants bit. But the writers even scripted her on-air firing.

^---lol, well Mrs. Garrett sure didn't keep Sue Ann in "Garrett's Group" for long! ;)


How could that sidelining have been unintentional? We saw she had plenty of lines in an episode where there were 13 other actors with lines (the four Drummonds, Mr. Crocker, Mrs. Garrett, Mr. Robinson the board guy, Blair, Molly, Sue Ann, Tootie, Jennifer, and Laura). Yet when there only 10 characters, she couldn't get more than ten lines per episode, outside of "IQ"? She had a phone bit, an umbrella bit, or a putting-on-tight-pants bit. But the writers even scripted her on-air firing.

Because it seems cruel for them to shove her away on purpose, lol...I want to give the benefit of the doubt. With Felice having gone to the producers distraught, "What happened to my character?!" they eased her mind "promising" her she was going to have material to do. But among the characters they quickly saw what a great rivalry/duo Blair and Sue Ann were, what comics Tootie and Natalie were, the intriguing idea of a tomboy, being sure to give the ERA girl some feminist lines, and Nancy just "got lost the in the shuffle".


Possibly. Of course I can't say that for sure, but I just like to think she slipped through the cracks, rather than the writers dropped her through the cracks! lol

Because it seems cruel for them to shove her away on purpose, lol...I want to give the benefit of the doubt. With Felice having gone to the producers distraught, "What happened to my character?!" they eased her mind "promising" her she was going to have material to do. But among the characters they quickly saw what a great rivalry/duo Blair and Sue Ann were, what comics Tootie and Natalie were, the intriguing idea of a tomboy, being sure to give the ERA girl some feminist lines, and Nancy just "got lost the in the shuffle".

Possibly. Of course I can't say that for sure, but I just like to think she slipped through the cracks, rather than the writers dropped her through the cracks! lol

I just don't see how it could have been anything but a conscious decision. Especially after she went to Al Burton and asked why her role had been reduced. Surely at that point, the writers must have seen how small her role had become, even if they hadn't done it intentionally.

And because scripts are rewritten up until the day of taping, they could have reassigned a few of Sue Ann or Blair's lines to her at any point. But they did not.

^---lol, well Mrs. Garrett sure didn't keep Sue Ann in "Garrett's Group" for long! http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/wink.gif

Interestingly enough, Jerrett Lennon, the original Mark Foster from Step By Step, stated on this board that he gets residual checks from that show, from scenes in the opening credits where just the back of his head/leg/etc can be seen. Since that's the case, it's possible that Felice gets a check for TWWW2, too. (I know Lorimar participated in that thread).




Sure did! I was the original poster too and he stumbled on it after Googling himself.

Lol, Retro, this is definitely a case of "DON'T GO IN THE BASEMENT!!" :lol:


Sure did! I was the original poster too and he stumbled on it after Googling himself.

Wow, how cool!

I know, I just wanna shake Sue Ann and yell, "NOOOOOOOOOOOO don't go in the basement!"

I know, I just wanna shake Sue Ann and yell, "NOOOOOOOOOOOO don't go in the basement!"

Edna did warn them never to go down into the basement...

Especially when the "electrility" goes out! I love that flub by her! :lol:

It's kinda cool they left it in. No-one talks perfectly all the time.

It's kinda cool they left it in. No-one talks perfectly all the time.


It's also kinda amazing that not one of those girls messed up the take by laughing when she flubbed it; if they even noticed (but you'd think a couple of them would have noticed). Then again, most of them were professionals; perhaps only Mindy may have busted out with a laugh, if anyone would have, lol; then again, she had the very next line, which was a punch line, so perhaps she was concentrating on her timing and wording.

Still only four votes for Felice's best episode. Where are all the Felice fans? Alex?

They're hidden behind the wallpaper!

I.Q., because it showed the pressure so often placed on young girls to succeed in
school and it also showcased great acting from Felice Schachter and Julie Piekarski

I.Q., because it showed the pressure so often placed on young girls to succeed in
school and it also showcased great acting from Felice Schachter and Julie Piekarski

Hey Lee! Thanks for the vote! I agree the episode really presented the pressure on kids to succeed in school. It's one of the few episodes where we actually even see an Eastland classroom.

It's one of my favorites because we get to see so much of the Lost Girls: an episode that focuses on two of them, even!

So, I wonder, just when did Felice go to the producers in panic over her character? :confused:

Was it immediately after "Rough Housing"? Since she was the star of "The Girls' School" only to be relegated to living wallpaper in the very next episode (going from DS to FOL), that could have been a shock to her.

Was it right before "I.Q."? Because she sure didn't do much in those first three episodes prior.

Or was it after the hiatus? I'm thinking it was probably before, but maybe in the first episode or two after hiatus is when she went to them. Come to think of it, the first few episodes after the hiatus---"Overachieving", "Emily Dickinson", and "Molly's Holiday"---I believe have no Roger existing yet.

So, I wonder, just when did Felice go to the producers in panic over her character? :confused:

Was it immediately after "Rough Housing"? Since she was the star of "The Girls' School" only to be relegated to living wallpaper in the very next episode (going from DS to FOL), that could have been a shock to her.

Was it right before "I.Q."? Because she sure didn't do much in those first three episodes prior.

Or was it after the hiatus? I'm thinking it was probably before, but maybe in the first episode or two after hiatus is when she went to them. Come to think of it, the first few episodes after the hiatus---"Overachieving", "Emily Dickinson", and "Molly's Holiday"---I believe have no Roger existing yet.

Now that is interesting, and it deserves some thought. Was "on the phone with Roger" the producers' concession to Felice after she talked with them about the size of her role? Is that why we got Roger, the Umbrella Scene, the Pants Scene, the "Flower in Your Hair" moment?

Right? It's very interesting to ponder...

The drama of sighting the elusive Nancy Olson---she's rarer than an okapi! ;)

(courtesy January 1992 "Another World")

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The drama of sighting the elusive Nancy Olson---she's rarer than an okapi! ;)

(courtesy January 1992 "Another World")

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:uplol: too funny

:uplol: too funny
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And Felicia even looks like she's camouflaged to go spy in a rain forest---her coat looks like a leopard and her hat is colored like an okapi! :lol:

You may wanna spell check Eights ;)

Brilliant, '80s!

Brilliant, '80s!
Thanks, this is a fun new way to think---the elusiveness of Nancy as seen by others in TV Land, lol.

:D

And Felicia even looks like she's camouflaged to go spy in a rain forest---her coat looks like a leopard and her hat is colored like an okapi! :lol:
Ohhhhhhhhhh :bonk::bonk:

Ohhhhhhhhhh :bonk::bonk:
Oh, Lorsie! :lol:


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Oh, Lorsie! :lol:


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:lol::D

:lol::D
Felice, meet Felicia, lol ---> Felicia Gallant: Romance Novelist, Restaurateur, and Talk Show Host! (Really! She hosted "Breakfast With Felicia"! :lol: ) Talk about your full-plated soap opera character! :lol:

Felice, meet Felicia, lol ---> Felicia Gallant: Romance Novelist, Restaurateur, and Talk Show Host! (Really! She hosted "Breakfast With Felicia"! :lol: ) Talk about your full-plated soap opera character! :lol:

Lol! Well she sounds like she did well for herself

Lol! Well she sounds like she did well for herself
Yup, she was Fanny Grady, a poor girl from Gold Street (ironically named, haha) in Chicago, and she remade herself into the flamboyant, over-the-top, unbelievable "Felicia Gallant"! :lol:

I liked the episode about Nancy's trip to Africa!

(a tribute to a recent reference at this board about how Felice, the tallest of the girls, was the "giraffe" among them)

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I liked the episode about Nancy's trip to Africa!

(a tribute to a recent reference at this board about how Felice, the tallest of the girls, was the "giraffe" among them)

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:uplol:

:uplol:

Mrs. Garrett would need quite the stepladder to put a flower in her hair! :lol:

Mrs. Garrett would need quite the stepladder to put a flower in her hair! :lol:

Haha she sure would. Unless she could get Nancy to bend her neck down.

HEY!

I bet I know what Nancy and Roger would name their son!

"ALEXANDER GRAHAM"!!

:rofl:

HEY!

I bet I know what Nancy and Roger would name their son!

"ALEXANDER GRAHAM"!!

:rofl:

:lol: He was Nancy’s hero after all!

HEY!

I bet I know what Nancy and Roger would name their son!

"ALEXANDER GRAHAM"!!

:rofl:
Alexander Graham Butler?! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Alexander Graham Butler?! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Yup! Alexander Graham "B."! lol


:lol: He was Nancy’s hero after all!

She probably wrote essays and research papers on him! :lol:

So, from the "Sesame Street" thread here I shared this FOL-meets-SS crossover on social media, plugging in the actresses' names:

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And then, THIS happened:

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And then, THIS happened:

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Congrats bud :D

Congrats bud :D

lol, thanks, I am STILL stunned!!!!!!!

And then, THIS happened:

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Haha! That's awesome, '80s! So glad that not just Molly but now Felice has shared in our Lost Girls love! And so cool that she liked a Sue Ann/Cindy photo! (Although she's in it, she got Nancied there, obviously). And it's one of your SS crossovers, even! :lol:

Haha! That's awesome, '80s! So glad that not just Molly but now Felice has shared in our Lost Girls love!

Thanks! And Julie too, when she messaged me and then winked at me! That means all the Lost Girls BUT Julie Anne have acknowledged me---which is ironic, because she's always been my favorite Lost Girl! :lol:


And so cool that she liked a Sue Ann/Cindy photo! (Although she's in it, she got Nancied there, obviously).

I think of it as an "everybody-but-Molly" photo, lol. Molly got "Nancied"!


And it's one of your SS crossovers, even! :lol:

Yes, I like to think Felice appreciates the quirky humor of that. :lol:

Thanks! And Julie too, when she messaged me and then winked at me! That means all the Lost Girls BUT Julie Anne have acknowledged me---which is ironic, because she's always been my favorite Lost Girl! :lol:


:lol: Here's hoping that some day you'll get some acknowledgement from "Cindy" as well!


I think of it as an "everybody-but-Molly" photo, lol. Molly got "Nancied"!

Ironically, Molly was taking photos in that scene! :lol:

True! :lol:

Still only four votes for Felice's best episode. Where are all the Felice fans? Alex?

Felice's fans went to the basement.

Felice got more airtime in some Season 2 and 3 episodes than she did in many season 1 episodes.

Felice got more airtime in some Season 2 and 3 episodes than she did in many season 1 episodes.

Certainly in "Gossip", where she had more lines than (I think) Natalie, at least.

But I don't think her parts in "Pretty Babies", "Dear Me", "Green-Eyed Monster", "Gossip", or "Sex Symbol" were any larger than her parts in Season One.

Certainly in "Gossip", where she had more lines than (I think) Natalie, at least.

But I don't think her parts in "Pretty Babies", "Dear Me", "Green-Eyed Monster", "Gossip", or "Sex Symbol" were any larger than her parts in Season One.

Oh, I'd wager that Nancy spoke more in "Gossip" than she did in any season 1 episode minus "I.Q." (and by "speaking more", I don't necessarily mean how many lines, but how many syllables)

Oh, I'd wager that Nancy spoke more in "Gossip" than she did in any season 1 episode minus "I.Q." (and by "speaking more", I don't necessarily mean how many lines, but how many syllables)

Woops. I didn't mean to include "Gossip" in that second sentence. I definitely agree that "Gossip" was her biggest role between "IQ" and "The Little Chill". It was a decent, meaty role. I wish they'd all had something like this, at least once, in S2 or S3.

Woops. I didn't mean to include "Gossip" in that second sentence. I definitely agree that "Gossip" was her biggest role between "IQ" and "The Little Chill". It was a decent, meaty role. I wish they'd all had something like this, at least once, in S2 or S3.

Oh my gosh! Sue Ann in the kitchen...Cindy in the lounge...ohhhh, the stuff of fans' dreams!! :D

Oh my gosh! Sue Ann in the kitchen...Cindy in the lounge...ohhhh, the stuff of fans' dreams!! :D

And Molly in the school library, protesting book banning. Surely she would have come back for a really decent role!

And Molly in the school library, protesting book banning. Surely she would have come back for a really decent role!

Haha that would be a good one

I felt this thread was an appropriate place to "hang up" this defining moment of Nancy's screen time after I.Q.

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I felt this thread was an appropriate place to "hang up" this defining moment of Nancy's screen time after I.Q.

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Hahahahaha!

'80s, you have such a talent for these humorous images. They tickle me every time.

I mean, sure it's terrible that Felice's role as Nancy became bizarrely small, and for no discernable reason, but I don't mind laughing at the humor in it... after all, we're about forty years removed from the situation.

Thanks, I'm glad to share some talent here, lol...and yes, I know what you mean; I feel the same! :grouphug:

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Althooouuuugh, if you think about it, Nancy had NO episode of her own. We like to say TGS was her only starring episode ("I.Q." not counting because she shares it with "that Sue Ann" [lol]), but really, she shares this one with Mrs. Garrett since it's Mrs. Garrett's vehicle to get her from the penthouse to the dorm.

So Nancy really didn't get ANY episode all her own!

Althooouuuugh, if you think about it, Nancy had NO episode of her own. We like to say TGS was her only starring episode ("I.Q." not counting because she shares it with "that Sue Ann" [lol]), but really, she shares this one with Mrs. Garrett since it's Mrs. Garrett's vehicle to get her from the penthouse to the dorm.

So Nancy really didn't get ANY episode all her own!


Absolutely agree on that one: NANCY didn't get this episode ALONE, since it was MRS G's introduction to the show, and she definitely made it!:wave::wave::wave:

Althooouuuugh, if you think about it, Nancy had NO episode of her own. We like to say TGS was her only starring episode ("I.Q." not counting because she shares it with "that Sue Ann" [lol]), but really, she shares this one with Mrs. Garrett since it's Mrs. Garrett's vehicle to get her from the penthouse to the dorm.

So Nancy really didn't get ANY episode all her own!

Thanks for agreeing. ;)

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:lol::lol::lol::lol:

But did any other lost girl get their own slot in the intro? I think not! ;)

But did any other lost girl get their own slot in the intro? I think not! ;)

Well, they all did, lol---you just cut out Blair! :lol: ;)

Well, they all did, lol---you just cut out Blair! :lol: ;)

I did not :nonono:;)

Well, they all did, lol---you just cut out Blair! :lol: ;)


Yep, the first interaction between BLAIR vs MRS G is a classic: she was a very NAUGHTY girl!!!!!:lol::lol::lol:


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This Felice thread needs that Air Quote "All American Girl" meme.

This Felice thread needs that Air Quote "All American Girl" meme.


ALL AMERICAN!:D:D:D


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This Felice thread needs that Air Quote "All American Girl" meme.

Well I would post it here, except that "Diff'rent Strokes" doesn't think Felice is:



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Well I would post it here, except that "Diff'rent Strokes" doesn't think Felice is:



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I AM FROM THE 'BALKANS!':lol::lol::lol::


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