Antenna TV said that What's Happening Now is coming to their schedule in a few weeks on Facebook, along with a few others. I was wondering when/if anybody here would have the info or schedule in general so we would have a better idea as to what's coming/leaving.

Also, on Antenna TV's website, for some reason starting July 2, it's nearly all movies except for Flipper, Mister Ed, and Green Acres...? What's going on? Anybody know?

Also, on Antenna TV's website, for some reason starting July 2, it's nearly all movies except for Flipper, Mister Ed, and Green Acres...? What's going on? Anybody know?

That's This's schedule

That's This's schedule

On Antenna's schedule... probably in error considering What's Happening Now!! is coming among other shows not announced yet. I hope we get info soon on what this actually is.

Yesterday I saw a promo for a musical themed marathon on Sunday, July 15. Antenna will be showing a variety of different shows of episodes with musical numbers in them!! ;)

Cool, huh?:):cool:

Yesterday I saw a promo for a musical themed marathon on Sunday, July 15. Antenna will be showing a variety of different shows of episodes with musical numbers in them!! ;)

Cool, huh?:):cool:

Yeah, it's probably going to be the same lineup but with musical episodes of each show that they can find. Like Murphy Brown will have the episode with Aretha Franklin, etc. It does sound cool! :cool:

Yeah, it's probably going to be the same lineup but with musical episodes of each show that they can find. Like Murphy Brown will have the episode with Aretha Franklin, etc. It does sound cool! :cool:



It sounds fun! :)I like marathons with a theme that show a variety of different shows! ;)

It sounds fun! :)I like marathons with a theme that show a variety of different shows! ;)

I know you do.:) I just can't wait for the new shows to hear what they are besides What's Happening Now!

I wish we got this channel...

Antenna posted on their Facebook page that Archie Bunker's Place would be airing weeknights at 7:30 starting July 16. Ugh, just when they had mostly phased out the Norman Lear shows. This would also suggest that the schedule overhaul won't start until the 16th and the old lineup will still be airing the weeks of July 2 and July 9.

Antenna posted on their Facebook page that Archie Bunker's Place would be airing weeknights at 7:30 starting July 16. Ugh, just when they had mostly phased out the Norman Lear shows. This would also suggest that the schedule overhaul won't start until the 16th and the old lineup will still be airing the weeks of July 2 and July 9.

Have any other shows been announced besides that and What’s Happening Now?

Have any other shows been announced besides that and What’s Happening Now?Not yet.

Do they have any plans for a 4th of July marathon? I will be going to my aunt’s for the 4th and she has it. Hopefully it will be of a show I don’t care to watch. Because I have to spend time with my family too.

Do they have any plans for a 4th of July marathon? I will be going to my aunt’s for the 4th and she has it. Hopefully it will be of a show I don’t care to watch. Because I have to spend time with my family too.

Just do what I do at my aunt's house on the holidays and sit in front of the TV and watch Antenna TV, isolating yourself.

I doubt there will be a July 4 marathon this year. Their July 15 music marathon has been advertised several times this week, but nothing for July 4 which is over a week earlier.

Antenna posted on their Facebook page that Archie Bunker's Place would be airing weeknights at 7:30 starting July 16. Ugh, just when they had mostly phased out the Norman Lear shows. This would also suggest that the schedule overhaul won't start until the 16th and the old lineup will still be airing the weeks of July 2 and July 9.

I will admit though, ABP is a rare show to see.

A family member really enjoys the show but all we can find is Season 1 on DVD.

So it will be nice to rip them so they have decent copies of S2-4.

I prefer to see stuff not released on Home Media air so you can record and keep stuff.

Me-TV seems to air stuff already released except Love Boat.

Antenna TV has a few shows I'd like to watch; shame they've made the channel unwatchable with the credit crunch. And they used to be one of the better "retro-channels".

Antenna TV has a few shows I'd like to watch; shame they've made the channel unwatchable with the credit crunch. And they used to be one of the better "retro-channels".

That’s so true. I’m in the same boat. Wish I could see What’s Happening Now and Archie Bunker’s Place but the credit crunch does make it unwatchable for me. But others don’t mind as much so to each his own.

Antenna TV has a few shows I'd like to watch; shame they've made the channel unwatchable with the credit crunch. And they used to be one of the better "retro-channels".

We know, enough already! :mad:

Antenna posted on their Facebook page that Archie Bunker's Place would be airing weeknights at 7:30 starting July 16. Ugh, just when they had mostly phased out the Norman Lear shows. This would also suggest that the schedule overhaul won't start until the 16th and the old lineup will still be airing the weeks of July 2 and July 9.

I'm so glad they're finally bringing this to the network after teasing about it for a couple of years now. I haven't watched it since a kid so all these episodes will be "new" to me.
And 7:30pm weeknights is actually when Get TV now airs All in the Family, but i'll switch over for Archie Bunker's Place and then back to Get TV at 8pm for more All in the Family.

Just do what I do at my aunt's house on the holidays and sit in front of the TV and watch Antenna TV, isolating yourself.



I can’t do that

I'm so glad they're finally bringing this to the network after teasing about it for a couple of years now. I haven't watched it since a kid so all these episodes will be "new" to me.
And 7:30pm weeknights is actually when Get TV now airs All in the Family, but i'll switch over for Archie Bunker's Place and then back to Get TV at 8pm for more All in the Family.



Yay!! Archie Banker's place!!! :)I haven't seen that sinse it was first run!! That will be cool to see again! :cool:Also What's happenin now will be cool too! ;)

Yay!! Archie Banker's place!!! :)I haven't seen that sinse it was first run!! That will be cool to see again! :cool:Also What's happenin now will be cool too! ;)

The only thing I clearly remember of Archie Bunker's Place is when Edith died and Archie was sitting on the bed crying. I was about 10 years old and that scene really did me in. It seems kinda silly now, but at that age, those characters were like real people to me.

I have just a very vague memory of What's Happening Now. I think I was mid teens by then and didn't even bother tuning in to it...but will now to see how it progressed from the original.

Yay!! Archie Banker's place!!! :)I haven't seen that sinse it was first run!! That will be cool to see again! :cool:Also What's happenin now will be cool too! ;)

Whatever show gets rid of that horrid Gimme a Break eventually I'll be happy with lol! Yes, I'm interested to see both What's Happening Now and Archie Bunker's Place on Antenna!

We know, enough already! :mad:

I don't understand why every single thread about Antenna TV or MeTV or any channel has to turn into bashing Antenna TV for their credit crunching. They don't butcher like Logo, so I am perfectly OK with them. Credit crunching is such a minor thing anyway, and we're getting stuff like What's Happening Now and Archie Bunker's Place, only seen recently on FamilyNet before it rebranded into The Cowboy Channel, so they'll finally be seen on a channel most can get, regardless of credit crunching. And btw I am pretty sure recordings of both from FamilyNet exist if you know where to look without credit crunching... But I am just pleased to have these both on Antenna. They're both pretty rare shows.

That’s so true. I’m in the same boat. Wish I could see What’s Happening Now and Archie Bunker’s Place but the credit crunch does make it unwatchable for me. But others don’t mind as much so to each his own.

It's not like the whole show's crunched, just the end credits/show open. It's so incredibly minor that since they have great shows like Alice, Growing Pains, Head of the Class, The Hogan Family, Silver Spoons, Benson, etc. a minor thing like credit crunching can be accepted if that's what it takes to get an extra commercial, not edit shows, and bring us more shows like this. As I see it, you take the good and you take the bad with these kinds of networks. But whatever, cool, keep on credit crunch hating, you're truly missing out on some rarely seen gems thanks to Antenna though.

Who watches shows for the credits?! I thought the important stuff happened in between the opening and closing credits. Am I missing something?

Not watching a whole show just because of the credits is extreme!

I don't understand why every single thread about Antenna TV or MeTV or any channel has to turn into bashing Antenna TV for their credit crunching. They don't butcher like Logo, so I am perfectly OK with them. Credit crunching is such a minor thing anyway, and we're getting stuff like What's Happening Now and Archie Bunker's Place, only seen recently on FamilyNet before it rebranded into The Cowboy Channel, so they'll finally be seen on a channel most can get, regardless of credit crunching. And btw I am pretty sure recordings of both from FamilyNet exist if you know where to look without credit crunching... But I am just pleased to have these both on Antenna. They're both pretty rare shows.

Same here, I was saying enough already to the user who is always bitching about the credit crunches btw.

Same here, I was saying enough already to the user who is always bitching about the credit crunches btw.

Yeah, I saw your reply.

Who watches shows for the credits?! I thought the important stuff happened in between the opening and closing credits. Am I missing something?

Not watching a whole show just because of the credits is extreme!

I agree with you. It used to annoy me but then I thought "oh, well, they're bringing us seldom seen shows, maybe not classics, but who'd ever thought we'd see some of these again on TV?" It's not a big issue to me and I'll still watch Antenna, but it's hardly unwatchable. And plus, it's free. Who can beat that?:cool:

Back on the topic of new shows, I hope they announce another one tonight. I would really like to see stuff like Chico and the Man and It's a Living like I mentioned, but that probably won't happen this schedule change, unfortunately. What goes along the lines of What's Happening Now and Archie Bunker's Place? Flo maybe? Maybe stuff like Perfect Strangers and Step by Step could come, seeing as they do work with WB now and they are WB property. All just pure speculation btw.

I agree with you. It used to annoy me but then I thought "oh, well, they're bringing us seldom seen shows, maybe not classics, but who'd ever thought we'd see some of these again on TV?" It's not a big issue to me and I'll still watch Antenna, but it's hardly unwatchable. And plus, it's free. Who can beat that?:cool:

If we're talking about what bus us about the shows, my pick is the adding of more commercials during the show. It's only recently that they've been fading out mid scenes to break for commercial and it's startling.

Antenna TV never used to do this and it takes you right out of the show. But like you say, it's free TV and shows we otherwise wouldn't be able to see unless we cough up dough for the DVD's. So just have to live with it.

Back on the topic of new shows, I hope they announce another one tonight. I would really like to see stuff like Chico and the Man and It's a Living like I mentioned, but that probably won't happen this schedule change, unfortunately. What goes along the lines of What's Happening Now and Archie Bunker's Place? Flo maybe? Maybe stuff like Perfect Strangers and Step by Step could come, seeing as they do work with WB now and they are WB property. All just pure speculation btw.

I'd LOVE to see It's A Living again. Wow, I haven't thought of that show in AGES!

If we're talking about what bus us about the shows, my pick is the adding of more commercials during the show. It's only recently that they've been fading out mid scenes to break for commercial and it's startling.

Antenna TV never used to do this and it takes you right out of the show. But like you say, it's free TV and shows we otherwise wouldn't be able to see unless we cough up dough for the DVD's. So just have to live with it.

I know, Antenna has some pretty seldom seen shows like Webster, Dear John, Head of the Class, The Hogan Family, Alice, Murphy Brown, Silver Spoons, Benson, and now more rarely seen gems like What's Happening Now and Archie Bunker's Place.

Logo, a cable channel similar to TV Land airs frequently played old shows like Married...With Children, The Nanny, The Golden Girls and shows like that has WAY too many commercials and too much editing and that, to me, is what makes it unwatchable. For most of these shows, I don't expect uncut, but I'd at least like an editing job that doesn't make the show unwatchable. And btw, I haven't seen All in the Family on Get so I don't know if they edit it differently than Antenna's syndicated prints had.

I'd LOVE to see It's A Living again. Wow, I haven't thought of that show in AGES!

It was on Logo for literally a couple days earlier this year, but I'd love to see it on Antenna. They'd probably run it uncut! I'd love to see it too, it'd go great with Alice.:cool:

It was on Logo for literally a couple days earlier this year, but I'd love to see it on Antenna. They'd probably run it uncut! I'd love to see it too, it'd go great with Alice.:cool:

Yeah that would be neat!! :)Have the waitress shows on back to back!! ;)

The only thing I clearly remember of Archie Bunker's Place is when Edith died and Archie was sitting on the bed crying. I was about 10 years old and that scene really did me in. It seems kinda silly now, but at that age, those characters were like real people to me.

I have just a very vague memory of What's Happening Now. I think I was mid teens by then and didn't even bother tuning in to it...but will now to see how it progressed from the original.

I remember a blind man who was a regular customer at Archie's bar and Archie had two nieces. Stephanie and another girl who I can picture what she looks like but I forget her name. Other than that, I really don't remember much so the show will seem new to me! ;):wave:

This is directly from Antenna TV's affiliate site:

3rd Quarter Schedule Changes



Starting the week of 7/16, Antenna TV will be adding four new shows to their line-up. Archie Bunker’s Place and What’s Happening Now!! will be airing Monday-Friday, while The Paul Lynde Show and Lotsa Luck will joining our weekend schedule on Saturdays. Please see below for the following changes:



– Welcome Back Kotter added at 3p Mon-Fri starting 7/16
– What’s Happening Now!! added at 5p Mon-Fri starting 7/16
– Gimme’ a Break moved to 5:30p Mon-Fri starting 7/16
– Three’s Company moved to 7p Mon-Fri starting 7/16
– Archie Bunker’s Place added at 7:30p Mon-Fri starting 7/16
– Family Ties moved to 2a Mon-Fri starting 7/16
– The Hogan Family moved to 2:30a Mon-Fri starting 7/16
– Head of the Class moved to 3a Mon-Fri starting 7/16
– Silver Spoons moved to 3:30a Mon-Fri starting 7/16
– The Paul Lynde Show added at 6:30p Saturday starting 7/21
– Lotsa Luck added at 7p Saturday starting 7/21
– Barney Miller added at 1:30a Saturday starting 7/21
– Archie Bunker’s Place added at 2a Saturday starting 7/21
– Alice added at 2:30a Saturday starting 7/21
– Mork and Mindy moved to 3a Saturday starting 7/21
– Soap added at 11p Sunday starting 7/22

– The Paul Lynde Show added at 6:30p Saturday starting 7/21
– Lotsa Luck added at 7p Saturday starting 7/21



I never seen either of these shows above but glad Antenna TV is expanding the oldie shows for Saturday evenings. I really enjoy them and I recall someone mentioned a few weeks ago that it would be great if they started the older classics from the 6PM hour on Saturdays and here they are.

I wonder if Antenna TV reads these boards and our opinions matter?

– The Paul Lynde Show added at 6:30p Saturday starting 7/21
– Lotsa Luck added at 7p Saturday starting 7/21



I never seen either of these shows above but glad Antenna TV is expanding the oldie shows for Saturday evenings. I really enjoy them and I recall someone mentioned a few weeks ago that it would be great if they started the older classics from the 6PM hour on Saturdays and here they are.

I wonder if Antenna TV reads these boards and our opinions matter?

It's still starting at 6:30

It's still starting at 6:30

Hazel is on 6:30PM on Saturdays, so perhaps they'll push her up to 6pm now? Or would that have been in the list above if they were doing that?

Hazel is on 6:30PM on Saturdays, so perhaps they'll push her up to 6pm now? Or would that have been in the list above if they were doing that?

It would have been on the list

If those are all the changes I am glad Coach remains in the 10PM hour with Murphy Brown right after. Welcome Back, Kotter returning to weekday afternoons is nice. Too bad Head of the the Class isn't airing after it again, that would make a wonderful block with Kotter, HOTC, and Benson back-to-back.

If those are all the changes I am glad Coach remains in the 10PM hour with Murphy Brown right after. Welcome Back, Kotter returning to weekday afternoons is nice. Too bad Head of the the Class isn't airing after it again, that would make a wonderful block with Kotter, HOTC, and Benson back-to-back.

Enjoy Coach while it lasts, it most likely won't be there come the fall. I would've rather it had been like 10pm Murphy, 10:30 Becker, 11 Wings with Coach at 12:30 and 1 or something like that.

Remember the Paul Lynde show slightly, Lotsa Luck with Dom Deluise was a funny show- both are 1 season shows, but its good that Antenna TV is bringing life back into these lost sitcoms.

– The Paul Lynde Show added at 6:30p Saturday starting 7/21
– Lotsa Luck added at 7p Saturday starting 7/21



I never seen either of these shows above but glad Antenna TV is expanding the oldie shows for Saturday evenings. I really enjoy them and I recall someone mentioned a few weeks ago that it would be great if they started the older classics from the 6PM hour on Saturdays and here they are.

I wonder if Antenna TV reads these boards and our opinions matter?


Never even heard of either one of these

Just do what I do at my aunt's house on the holidays and sit in front of the TV and watch Antenna TV, isolating yourself.


Absolutely not! It’s anerica’s birthday!

Never even heard of either one of theseThey were both one season wonders that were cancelled after one season, just 26 episodes for The Paul Lynde Show and 22 for Lotsa Luck. Paul Lynde would best be known for playing Uncle Arthur on Bewitched, he was also the center square on the original Hollywood Squares. Lotsa Luck stars Dom DeLuise, he appeared on Johnny Carson a few times.

Lotsa Luck Is a good add. Jerry Lewis fans will recognize Kathleen Freeman who plays Dom Deluise’s mother. Plus I think the DVD’s are OOP.

Paul Lynde was incredibly funny on Bewitched and Hollywood Squares. I've never seen his show.

ABP has really not been on much at all. TV Land showed a few season 1 episodes many years ago. It was part of a strange package they had with a few early-season episodes of several shows.

Paul Lynde was incredibly funny on Bewitched and Hollywood Squares. I've never seen his show.

ABP has really not been on much at all. TV Land showed a few season 1 episodes many years ago. It was part of a strange package they had with a few early-season episodes of several shows.

APB was recently on something called Family Net (till it became what I think is the Cowboy Channel). It wasn't in our package, but we could still see the programming on the on screen guide.

Yay!! Archie Banker's place!!! :)I haven't seen that sinse it was first run!! That will be cool to see again! :cool:Also What's happenin now will be cool too! ;)

As long as they keep Gimme A Break on at a good time for you, because I know you like it :wave:

Paul Lynde was incredibly funny on Bewitched and Hollywood Squares. I've never seen his show.

ABP has really not been on much at all. TV Land showed a few season 1 episodes many years ago. It was part of a strange package they had with a few early-season episodes of several shows.

TV Land aired ABP from September 2002 until about April 2003.

APB was recently on something called Family Net (till it became what I think is the Cowboy Channel). It wasn't in our package, but we could still see the programming on the on screen guide.

I wish FamilyNet was still around. No credit crunch and good shows.

So no more Webster?

As long as they keep Gimme A Break on at a good time for you, because I know you like it :wave:

I DO like it!!! I think Gimme a break is a sweet show!!:) I like Nell as the Nanny when the girls were young,:) and than in later seasons when one of the girls found her love Jonathan!!!:) I LOVE Jonathan!!!!! :heart::eyes::love:

Don't tell Sven!!!!! :lol:

So no more Webster?Not on weekdays. Webster remains Sundays at noon.

So Antenna TV is going to add Lotsa Luck and The Paul Lynde Show. Interesting, I might tune in for those. Another short lived sitcom from that early 1970's time frame that I'd like to see is Temperature's Rising. Maybe Antenna could acquire that one too.

On the subject of the credit crunches, I don't like it either but have learned to live with it. And another thing that I've noticed Antenna has started doing is time compresssing/speeding up the shows so they can sneak in another minute of commercial time. For example, The Joey Bishop Show episodes now have 8 minutes of commercials when before the episodes had 7 minutes of commercials. I haven't noticed any additional cuts to the episodes, so they must be speeding them up so they can throw in another minute of commercial time. :rolleyes:

Antenna TV isn't free, at least it isn't free for me, it's part of my cable TV package so I'm paying for the channel. Cable TV is a rip off but this is the way I choose to receive TV. These companies rope you in and give you a good deal for a year, then after the year is over they start hammering you with annual price increases and before you know it you are paying double the amount compared to when you first started. This is what's happened to me. Eventually I will probably have to do something about it but I don't know what I want to do.

It is ridiculous what these retro TV stations are allowed to get away with, the way they mess with the shows. Edited shows, time compression, credit crunching, widescreen telecasting, the FCC should put a stop to it all but it won't happen because the FCC doesn't care.

It is ridiculous what these retro TV stations are allowed to get away with, the way they mess with the shows. Edited shows, time compression, credit crunching, widescreen telecasting, the FCC should put a stop to it all but it won't happen because the FCC doesn't care.

Jeez, you know the "S" in "USA" stands for "states" and not "socialist", right? And the FCC stands for Federal Communications Commission, not Federal Communication Commies.

TV commercials and advertising used to be well regulated in America.And it was great.However all the good regulations were removed quite some time ago.I would be totally in favor of TV advertising being regulated again,but the chance of that happening is slim.Meanwhile things like netflix are taking over and TV channels are putting themselves out of business.

Jeez, you know the "S" in "USA" stands for "states" and not "socialist", right? And the FCC stands for Federal Communications Commission, not Federal Communication Commies.

Well if you enjoy all the crap these retro TV channels pull, then good for you. Watch it all day and all night if you like. The main reason I've paid any attention to Antenna TV recently is because I like The Joey Bishop Show. Otherwise I seldom watch the channel. Out of curiosity, I might tune in next month to see Lotsa Luck and The Paul Lynde Show, but that's it.

I remember in 2005 when MeTV first went on the air in Chicago. They would air shows uncut, full closing credits too, no credit crunching. That's how it should be. Since then, these retro channels, including MeTV, have become wastelands. I'm glad I have most of my favorite shows on DVD and seldom have to rely on the retro channels.

Antenna TV isn't free, at least it isn't free for me, it's part of my cable TV package so I'm paying for the channel.

Here it's both. We can get it free with an antenna (which I never do) and it's also part of our cable package (which is how I'd watch). So basically, like you, we pay for it.

Well if you enjoy all the crap these retro TV channels pull, then good for you. Watch it all day and all night if you like. The main reason I've paid any attention to Antenna TV recently is because I like The Joey Bishop Show. Otherwise I seldom watch the channel. Out of curiosity, I might tune in next month to see Lotsa Luck and The Paul Lynde Show, but that's it.

I remember in 2005 when MeTV first went on the air in Chicago. They would air shows uncut, full closing credits too, no credit crunching. That's how it should be. Since then, these retro channels, including MeTV, have become wastelands. I'm glad I have most of my favorite shows on DVD and seldom have to rely on the retro channels.

Yes I agree most retro channels have gone downhill now. I still watch MeTV some but it’s disappointing because of their overplay of westerns and letting Mash and Hogan’s Heroes hog the same spots for years. Decades occasionally has something good on their binge marathons but most of the time it’s something boring. Most of the others crunch credits now so I avoid them like the plague.

I remember in 2005 when MeTV first went on the air in Chicago. They would air shows uncut, full closing credits too, no credit crunching. That's how it should be. Since then, these retro channels, including MeTV, have become wastelands. I'm glad I have most of my favorite shows on DVD and seldom have to rely on the retro channels.

They even aired shows such as Silver Spoons complete with their original bumpers. You don't even get that on commercial DVD sets.

The few sitcoms that the Starz networks show (like The Jeffersons) are shown uncut. So there must be a way to make it work as a business model.

MeTV not only edits shows, they time compress them slightly, at times. They also converted to some sort of standard def. widescreen feed, which totally hoses the look of all these 80s videotaped shows (and other shows that aren't converted to hi-def.). MeTV blames Warners (for instance, for how Mama's Family looks), but I think it has more to do with all their video conversions, just to satisfy sponsors who want widescreen for their ads.

Here it's both. We can get it free with an antenna (which I never do) and it's also part of our cable package (which is how I'd watch). So basically, like you, we pay for it.

Next year I'm probably going to have to try and make some changes/adjustments to my cable service. I'll have to contact Spectrum and see what they can do. My bill is already too high as it is, it's going to get higher next year unless I explore other options.

Here it's both. We can get it free with an antenna (which I never do) and it's also part of our cable package (which is how I'd watch). So basically, like you, we pay for it.

In this convoluted world of cable TV, we pay for local channels because they are somehow able to charge cable companies for the rights to carry their channels (and if the two sides get into a snit, they yank the channel). Some of these fees are undoubtedly pass-thru fees that the networks charge to local channels for their programming. And on top of all that nonsense, there are the all the inane ads from the original networks and the local channels. And to top it all off, try finding something to watch in the wee hours. On almost all channels, it's infomercials. The whole thing is a huge ripoff.

Yes I agree most retro channels have gone downhill now. I still watch MeTV some but it’s disappointing because of their overplay of westerns and letting Mash and Hogan’s Heroes hog the same spots for years. Decades occasionally has something good on their binge marathons but most of the time it’s something boring. Most of the others crunch credits now so I avoid them like the plague.

I don't think I get the Decades channel so I can't offer a comment about them, but the channels I do get, MeTV, Antenna TV, Cozi, RTV, Logo, yeah there are problems with all of them.

They even aired shows such as Silver Spoons complete with their original bumpers. You don't even get that on commercial DVD sets.

The few sitcoms that the Starz networks show (like The Jeffersons) are shown uncut. So there must be a way to make it work as a business model.

MeTV not only edits shows, they time compress them slightly, at times. They also converted to some sort of standard def. widescreen feed, which totally hoses the look of all these 80s videotaped shows (and other shows that aren't converted to hi-def.). MeTV blames Warners (for instance, for how Mama's Family looks), but I think it has more to do with all their video conversions, just to satisfy sponsors who want widescreen for their ads.

MeTV was great back in the day when they first started out, I used to watch that channel a lot. Then later they added a second channel, MeTOO, which I believe no longer exists, they also added ThisTV which was mostly for movies and that channel is still active as far as I know.

In this convoluted world of cable TV, we pay for local channels because they are somehow able to charge cable companies for the rights to carry their channels (and if the two sides get into a snit, they yank the channel). Some of these fees are undoubtedly pass-thru fees that the networks charge to local channels for their programming. And on top of all that nonsense, there are the all the inane ads from the original networks and the local channels. And to top it all off, try finding something to watch in the wee hours. On almost all channels, it's infomercials. The whole thing is a huge ripoff.

Cable is a rip off, but this is the method how I've received TV channels since the 1980's, so I'm used to it. My bill used to not change that much from year to year, but now I get these annual increases and it's getting out of hand. Switching to a dish/satellite service doesn't sound good, I don't think I want to do that, so next year I plan to try and work out a better deal with the cable service and hopefully lower my monthly bill.

Next year I'm probably going to have to try and make some changes/adjustments to my cable service. I'll have to contact Spectrum and see what they can do. My bill is already too high as it is, it's going to get higher next year unless I explore other options.

Yes, there's lots of options these days, so you should be able find something suitable. But you're also a sports watcher, right?, and sports watchers can find it hard to cut the cord. I myself need it for the local teams, like the Yankees and Islanders, alone (the NY Jets are always free because no one would be willing to pay for them :wave:). But I figure if I have to pay for stuff, it may as well be for things I like. Imagine I was forced to stay home and watch Alice every night. I'd be kissing my own grits.....

Yes, there's lots of options these days, so you should be able find something suitable. But you're also a sports watcher, right?, and sports watchers can find it hard to cut the cord. I myself need it for the local teams, like the Yankees and Islanders, alone (the NY Jets are always free because no one would be willing to pay for them :wave:). But I figure if I have to pay for stuff, it may as well be for things I like. Imagine I was forced to stay home and watch Alice every night. I'd be kissing my own grits.....

Yes I'm a sports watcher but it depends what it is. I like watching the NHL playoffs every year, this years playoffs just recently completed were fun to watch. I'm not really a close fan of any team so there's no stress, I just sit back and enjoy the games. With the NBA playoffs it's a little different, I follow the Jazz so if they are in the playoffs I'll watch their games. If they aren't in the playoffs or if they lose a series and get eliminated, I'm not interested in the other teams so I don't watch the games.

My cable TV bill has gotten too high, so next year I plan to contact the cable service Spectrum and see if I can get a different deal with a lower price.

Yes, there's lots of options these days, so you should be able find something suitable. But you're also a sports watcher, right?, and sports watchers can find it hard to cut the cord. I myself need it for the local teams, like the Yankees and Islanders, alone (the NY Jets are always free because no one would be willing to pay for them :wave:). But I figure if I have to pay for stuff, it may as well be for things I like. Imagine I was forced to stay home and watch Alice every night. I'd be kissing my own grits.....I found someone else who doesn't like Alice either. A lot of this board raves about it, but I tried a few episodes when I got Antenna back and didn't care for it much.

I found someone else who doesn't like Alice either. A lot of this board raves about it, but I tried a few episodes when I got Antenna back and didn't care for it much.

Alice is an OK show but I don't care for Linda Lavin all that much. Vic Tayback is the one who carried the show, along with Polly Holliday, series should have been called Mel's Diner in my opinion.

Then when Flo got her own show, it didn't succeed because the character of Flo didn't go over well as a leading role. She was better as a supporting character in Alice. But I guess after awhile Polly and Linda didn't get along too well, it was Linda's show so it was bye bye Polly.

Alice is an OK show but I don't care for Linda Lavin all that much. Vic Tayback is the one who carried the show, along with Polly Holliday, series should have been called Mel's Diner in my opinion.

Then when Flo got her own show, it didn't succeed because the character of Flo didn't go over well as a leading role. She was better as a supporting character in Alice. But I guess after awhile Polly and Linda didn't get along too well, it was Linda's show so it was bye bye Polly.

I haven't seen Alice since the days it originally aired and was so excited to view it again when it came to Antenna TV. That excitement ended quickly though because after Flo departed, it just became unwatchable for me but I slugged through to the end of the series. I think the show was only good during the Flo years.

I met Philip McKeon (Tommy on Alice) a couple of months ago and he told me that Linda still doesn’t like Polly and they haven’t spoken at all. But Linda does keep in touch him still. I know Diane Ladd (Belle) wasn’t crazy about Lavin either so she left the show. It’s too bad that after all these years there’s still such animosity. They were a great cast and put on a good show.

I’ve never seen Alice but I would like to. Hopefully Warner will hurry and release the last three seasons on DVD so I can see it in full but it may take me some time because it’s so expensive.

[QUOTE=Madness;5381496]I met Philip McKeon (Tommy on Alice) a couple of months ago and he told me that Linda still doesn’t like Polly and they haven’t spoken at all. But Linda does keep in touch him still. I know Diane Ladd (Belle) wasn’t crazy about Lavin either so she left the show. It’s too bad that after all these years there’s still such animosity. They were a great cast and put on a good show.[/QUOTE

Watching the first few seasons with Lavin & Holliday, it appears they got on well together....but it was probably just good acting. Sad to know they had a falling out that was never mended. I never knew that.

I wonder if Lavin was miffed that Holliday got popular during the series and spun off with her own show?

I’ve never seen Alice but I would like to. Hopefully Warner will hurry and release the last three seasons on DVD so I can see it in full but it may take me some time because it’s so expensive.

Alice ROCKS!!!!:) It's not only a really funny show but a heartwarming show too!!;)

Alice ROCKS!!!!:) It's not only a really funny show but a heartwarming show too!!;)

Yeah, and Flo is f**kin' sexy. I'd gladly kiss her grits!

I turned on Antenna TV a few minutes early waiting for Silver Spoons, found my affiliate had preempted something for the first time. Catholic Mass was airing, it is usually on the main FOX station but they have World Cup coverage all day. The mass aired instead of Gimme a Break, so not much of a loss. :p And it is back to Antenna program now for Silver Spoons. I am glad my FOX affiliate is not doing this during the week, Antenna's Facebook page has had viewers complaining about Jerry Springer airing instead of Antenna shows. And I do not think WFFT will be airing Cubs games on Antenna like WANE did. :rolleyes:

I turned on Antenna TV a few minutes early waiting for Silver Spoons, found my affiliate had preempted something for the first time. Catholic Mass was airing, it is usually on the main FOX station but they have World Cup coverage all day. The mass aired instead of Gimme a Break, so not much of a loss. :p And it is back to Antenna program now for Silver Spoons. I am glad my FOX affiliate is not doing this during the week, Antenna's Facebook page has had viewers complaining about Jerry Springer airing instead of Antenna shows. And I do not think WFFT will be airing Cubs games on Antenna like WANE did. :rolleyes:

The main Fox station where I live is also showing World Cup coverage all day as well.

Alice ROCKS!!!!:) It's not only a really funny show but a heartwarming show too!!;)

Alice needs a full series DVD release.

Alice needs a full series DVD release.

stevea, I agree what you said

I turned on Antenna TV a few minutes early waiting for Silver Spoons, found my affiliate had preempted something for the first time. Catholic Mass was airing, it is usually on the main FOX station but they have World Cup coverage all day. The mass aired instead of Gimme a Break, so not much of a loss. :p And it is back to Antenna program now for Silver Spoons. I am glad my FOX affiliate is not doing this during the week, Antenna's Facebook page has had viewers complaining about Jerry Springer airing instead of Antenna shows. And I do not think WFFT will be airing Cubs games on Antenna like WANE did. :rolleyes:


Reminds me of my Sinclair-owned MeTV before with ASN. They'd randomly put games on when you expected MeTV programming.

I can only image Antenna TV fans seeing Jerry Springer. Doesn't seem like they'd be in the same demo group. LoL

I found someone else who doesn't like Alice either. A lot of this board raves about it, but I tried a few episodes when I got Antenna back and didn't care for it much.

That's how I feel about Alice, Murphy Brown and Wings. All shows that get raved about on this board, but I just don't get the appeal of at all. Granted, Murphy Brown is kinda dated and relies heavily on events that were current at the time and I'm not really much of a political person.

It would be nice to see Flo on Antenna TV.

Family Member enjoys it but they don't have $40 to buy both seasons online and aren't really a tech person even if they could.

They enjoy Alice on.

Antenna may have it's Credit Crunch but at least they seem to not be sizing the video weird to where actual video is cut off like MeTV is doing to many shows with their weird aspect ratio.

I'd rather watch some temporary squashing than the entire show cut off, LoL.

Antenna may have it's Credit Crunch but at least they seem to not be sizing the video weird to where actual video is cut off like MeTV is doing to many shows with their weird aspect ratio.


Amen to this! MeTV looks WEIRD all this time. Antenna has standard definition. I read someplace that MeTV's sponsors wanted their ads to be in widescreen, thus the screwed up aspect ratios on every show. Some shows look even worse than others.

Amen to this! MeTV looks WEIRD all this time. Antenna has standard definition. I read someplace that MeTV's sponsors wanted their ads to be in widescreen, thus the screwed up aspect ratios on every show. Some shows look even worse than others.

I may be a perfectionist but I've seen Carol Burnett episodes from before and now and notice like half an inch or so just chopped off the video.

Not so bad when it's part of the set but strange when heads are cut off.

Was hoping they would put Carol on Antenna but so far MeTV has always had it.

Well I prefer MeTV even if the picture is stretched because there’s no credit crunch and I can hear the full closing theme.

Since I can't afford my Comcast bill, I'm was actually using FuboTV and now Directv Now. Antenna TV and ME-TV isn't on either of them.

Well I prefer MeTV even if the picture is stretched because there’s no credit crunch and I can hear the full closing theme.

Well I watch METV and Antenna TV because they air different shows and I watch the shows for the show not the song at the end of the show.

So when you watch METV do you just turn it on at the very end to hear the theme ?

The effort you put into being a troll is hilarious.

Well I watch METV and Antenna TV because they air different shows and I watch the shows for the show not the song at the end of the show.

So when you watch METV do you just turn it on at the very end to hear the theme ?

The effort you put into being a troll is hilarious.

I don't think cookie trolls. He just really doesn't like the credit crunch and brings it up once in a while. Okay, more than once in awhile. But there's no malicious intent I can see.


#LetBigCookieComplainAboutTheCreditCrunch

I agree, he's not a troll. My troll definition is someone who posts controversial statements, hoping for a fight with another poster or other posters. Or someone who goes to a show site for the sole purpose of trashing it.

As someone who probably has OCD on some things, I'd say he's just OCD over this. He probably needs to get over it 'cause 98% chance it ain't gonna change.

I don't think cookie trolls. He just really doesn't like the credit crunch and brings it up once in a while. Okay, more than once in awhile. But there's no malicious intent I can see.


#LetBigCookieComplainAboutTheCreditCrunch

Thank you. I just brought it up here because someone else said that the crunch didn’t bother them as much as MeTV stretching the picture so I just stated back that for me it’s the opposite. Treky also hates the credit crunch and is usually the first to mention it so I’m usually just responding to him to nod in agreement with him. But everyone is free to express themselves and their opinions. For some people the credit crunch doesn’t bother them so they are more than welcome to watch Antenna if that’s what they please. It’s just a thing I really hate so I choose not to watch but to each his own.

I don't think cookie trolls. He just really doesn't like the credit crunch and brings it up once in a while. Okay, more than once in awhile.A WHOLE lot more than once in awhile. Any time Antenna is even mentioned he is likely to bring up not watching because of the credit crunch. We know! ever since he first complained about it thousands of his posts earlier. I bet in the last two years since the crunch started over 70% or 80% of his posts have been this same broken record. He rudely brought it up in threads I and other posters made where we were clearly not happy losing our Antenna affiliates. :rolleyes2 Fortunately I have my affiliate back now but other Antenna fans sadly don't yet.

EDIT: I am adding a link to a thread I made last year about LAFF being a poor replacement for Antenna. thebigcookie inserted his same broken record in that very thread, he has claimed to be echoing treky other places but treky had not even posted in my thread. I could not find my original thread about losing my Antenna affiliate but he did the same thing there, and on at least one other poster's thread who had complained about losing their affiliate. Quite rude I would say and troll like.

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=366941

A WHOLE lot more than once in awhile. Any time Antenna is even mentioned he is likely to bring up not watching because of the credit crunch. We know! ever since he first complained about it thousands of his posts earlier. I bet in the last two years since the crunch started over 70% or 80% of his posts have been this same broken record. He rudely brought it up in threads I and other posters made where we were clearly not happy losing our Antenna affiliates. :rolleyes2 Fortunately I have my affiliate back now but other Antenna fans sadly don't yet.

EDIT: I am adding a link to a thread I made last year about LAFF being a poor replacement for Antenna. thebigcookie inserted his same broken record in that very thread, he has claimed to be echoing treky other places but treky had not even posted in my thread. I could not find my original thread about losing my Antenna affiliate but he did the same thing there, and on at least one other poster's thread who had complained about losing their affiliate. Quite rude I would say and troll like.

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=366941

That was a long time ago I brought it up in your thread. You have it back now so go watch it and let me be.

I hate the credit crunches too but there is nothing can be done with it. It's either that or nothing and Antenna TV at least is airing some shows that haven't been seen in years.

I hate the credit crunches too but there is nothing can be done with it. It's either that or nothing and Antenna TV at least is airing some shows that haven't been seen in years.The Paul Lynde Show in a few weeks will sure be nice. Several others I never would have seen without Antenna like Head of the Class, Mr. Belvedere, Bachelor Father, My Two Dads, Silver Spoons, and many more.

Yes, it will. I've never seen it. I'd also like to see the Bill Dana Show. I'd never heard of that until he died a few years ago.

Yes, it will. I've never seen it. I'd also like to see the Bill Dana Show. I'd never heard of that until he died a few years ago.I hadn't even heard of Bill Dana until I saw this post. I read the description of The Bill Dana Show in my primetime directory, sounds interesting.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this as much as the credit crunch. How about the facts, that at least when I had Antenna, they would go to the commercials at the wrong times?

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this as much as the credit crunch. How about the facts, that at least when I had Antenna, they would go to the commercials at the wrong times?

That’s another thing I don’t like about Antenna. They show commercials at the wrong times and put them in where they don’t belong. This channel has really gone downhill.

This hitting breaks at the wrong time must be another one of those things that starts somewhere, and spreads. I first noticed it on TV Land a few years ago--now Antenna is really bad with this, and now I notice it on MeTV, as well. What makes it worse on Antenna is that our local channel clock must not match Antenna's, so they always cut in about a second too soon. May not sound like much, but they always cut off the last word of dialog in the show. I called the local channel, but evidently no one cares.

A 6 year old child could figure out where the break goes, but I guess these TV big thinkers can't.

I agree, he's not a troll. My troll definition is someone who posts controversial statements, hoping for a fight with another poster or other posters. Or someone who goes to a show site for the sole purpose of trashing it.

As someone who probably has OCD on some things, I'd say he's just OCD over this. He probably needs to get over it 'cause 98% chance it ain't gonna change.

I agree not a troll by definition, but they need to get a life. Wow

Comes down to I would rather see some shows without credits than not at all.

The cutting in and out is really bad, if these shows were on other channels with no crunches or bad cuts I’d watch that channel, but there not.

The credit crunch wouldn't bother me so much if they didn't mute the sound. I like listening to the closing music of shows.

It hasn't stopped me from watching the shows but it makes me sad.

The credit crunch wouldn't bother me so much if they didn't mute the sound. I like listening to the closing music of shows.

It hasn't stopped me from watching the shows but it makes me sad.

Yeah, it makes me sad too but it's whatever. I can live with the credit crunch, and even down the future if we got shows like Chico and the Man and It's a Living, I'd be more happy to have them crunched than not at all. Sure, I'd like to see the credits, but I can live without them.

I like The Joey Bishop Show, will probably also tune in for The Paul Lynde Show and Lotsa Luck. But aside from that, I seldom watch the channel. I tune in sometimes on the weekend to see the 90 minute Carson shows, it depends who his guests are. Antenna TV is by no means a great channel, but they aren't as bad as some of the other retro channels. I would prefer to have the full closing credits but I live with the credit crunches. The shows are edited so they might as well edit/crunch the credits too. :crazy: :lol:

The Paul Lynde Show in a few weeks will sure be nice. Several others I never would have seen without Antenna like Head of the Class, Mr. Belvedere, Bachelor Father, My Two Dads, Silver Spoons, and many more.
I don't believe I ever saw the Paul Lynde Show. I can't remember. I remember Lotsa Luck from when it originally aired. The whole family watched it and loved it. Haven't seen it since though. The other shows you mentioned are all great and haven't been on TV in years.

Yeah, it makes me sad too but it's whatever. I can live with the credit crunch, and even down the future if we got shows like Chico and the Man and It's a Living, I'd be more happy to have them crunched than not at all. Sure, I'd like to see the credits, but I can live without them.
I would do the dance of joy if Chico and the Man ever came on. Except for one episode, I haven't seen that show since 1978.

Yes, it will. I've never seen it. I'd also like to see the Bill Dana Show. I'd never heard of that until he died a few years ago.
I bought a cheap VHS of the show about12 or 13 years ago. The picture was awful but at least I saw it. I liked it.

The credit crunch wouldn't bother me so much if they didn't mute the sound. I like listening to the closing music of shows.

It hasn't stopped me from watching the shows but it makes me sad.
My biggest problem is in the beginning when they have the opening credits or the tag in a small box while the closing credits air. It is very distracting.

My biggest problem is in the beginning when they have the opening credits or the tag in a small box while the closing credits air. It is very distracting.

That’s exactly why I don’t like it. Plus the closing music is missing. I can live with a crunch if the music is not muted. Decades sometimes crunches on weekdays just to display the name of the show coming up next in plain text but the music is not muted and played at full volume. That crunch doesn’t bother me that much and I will still watch. I just don’t like the way Antenna overlaps shows and then in printing has to show a stupid promo that we’ve already seen during regular commercial breaks.

I agree it’s annoying, but to not watch a show I have been wanting to see again for 20-30 years just because of it. I would bet cookie does watch Antenna.

I agree it’s annoying, but to not watch a show I have been wanting to see again for 20-30 just because of it. I would bet cookie does watch Antenna.

No I don’t watch Antenna.

No I don’t watch Antenna.

Yeah I know...

Is Archie Bunker's Place starting from the first episode to the end or is it just selective episodes like TVland used to do?

^TV Land had a strange package of several episodes of a few shows from Sony...one show was ABP, the others were (IIRC) Father Knows Best, Donna Reed, Dennis the Menace, Hazel, and Burns and Allen.

I'd bet Antenna has the whole series...I imagine they'd start with S1 EP 1. I'll be looking forward to that...I haven't seen it (other than the few TV Land showed) since they were originally on.

^TV Land had a strange package of several episodes of a few shows from Sony...one show was ABP, the others were (IIRC) Father Knows Best, Donna Reed, Dennis the Menace, Hazel, and Burns and Allen.

I'd bet Antenna has the whole series...I imagine they'd start with S1 EP 1. I'll be looking forward to that...I haven't seen it (other than the few TV Land showed) since they were originally on.

I'm looking forward to seeing it on Antenna TV. Never seen it beyond the pilot.

Some marathons planned:

Antenna TV will be airing four exciting stunts in 3rd Quarter:

As kids go back to school, you can too with a Head of the Class Back to School Marathon on Sunday 8/19:

– Head of the Class Back to School Marathon added at 5a-11:30p Sunday 8/19

Antenna TV kicks off College Football season with a Coach Back-to-Football Marathon airing Saturday 9/1.

– Coach Back-to-School Marathon added at 1p-11:30p Saturday 9/1

Spend Labor Day at Mel’s Diner with the Alice Labor Day Marathon airing all day long on Monday 9/3.

– Alice Labor Day Marathon added at 5a-11:30p Monday 9/3

And finally, Mork and Mindy celebrates 40 years on Friday, 9/14 and Antenna TV will be celebrating with the Mork and Mindy 40th Anniversary Marathon.

– Mork and Mindy 40th Anniversary Marathon added at 5a-11:30p Friday 9/14

All times are ET

Some marathons planned:

To kick off the college football season I'll actually be watching college football.

I'm looking forward to seeing it on Antenna TV. Never seen it beyond the pilot.

Would be awesome, I never seen the whole series either. Hope they saw all of them. TVland was not good when they aired the show the way they did. I never seen the death of Edith. I may cry. was one of my favorite female characters.

I'm looking forward to seeing it on Antenna TV. Never seen it beyond the pilot.

You likely missed your chance to see it unedited and uncrunched.

One of those higher up, obscure cable channels no one knew existed, Family Net, had the show for ages. With only a few exceptions, they aired the shows unedited and they didn't do crunches.

Unfortunately, Family Net became a cowboy channel sometime last year.

However, if Antenna winds up airing the season 2 premiere unedited, I'll be thrilled. That was one of the few episodes Family Net aired split into two syndicated episodes.

However, if Antenna winds up airing the season 2 premiere unedited, I'll be thrilled. That was one of the few episodes Family Net aired split into two syndicated episodes.

That seems unlikely. The only way it's available unedited is in the hour-long version. Back when ABP was on Crackle, they posted the unedited version though. I wish they'd finish up releasing the show on DVD.

What a time not to have Antenna TV. But is Antenna TV having there Summer marathons every Saturday? If not, maybe these stunts make up for it.

What a time not to have Antenna TV. But is Antenna TV having there Summer marathons every Saturday? If not, maybe these stunts make up for it.

Not this year.

That seems unlikely. The only way it's available unedited is in the hour-long version. Back when ABP was on Crackle, they posted the unedited version though. I wish they'd finish up releasing the show on DVD.

I've been waiting for Shout to get their hands on it for ages and release a complete series box set, the way they have with so many other Sony/Lear shows.

Shout or some company needs to make some kind of deal with Sony and CBS Dist., and issue these older shows on DVD.

People always talk about streaming, but that's at some company's whim. It can be yanked at any time. A DVD is yours, period.

I don't know if this is a fluke with my guide data in my DVR or not.

It says Highway Patrol will air on Antenna TV 7/9 4:30AM EST.

Interestingly the same exact episode that is to air on THIS at the same date/time.

I never heard/seen HP on ATV only THIS.

EDIT: Guess just bad guide data. Other sites say Johnny on at that time. It's also claiming Rat Patrol will air.

Yeah I saw that too. Carson shows 60 minutes a half hour before that (and that should probably be 90 minutes). Looks like a mess up to me.

I didn't know THIS had HP back on, though.

I also saw that but it was a mistake. they had rat patrol on too at 4am. I thought it was only me with my provider.

I just saw yesterdays Archie Bunker's Place and its just sad to know they kill Edith off and I dont know why they would do that. Edith made Archie the way Archie was. She put Archie more neural character than without her. Not sure I'll like this show when Edith is not on it. I'll keep watching though. I couldnt find anything on why they kill Edith off, Does anyone know why?

I just saw yesterdays Archie Bunker's Place and its just sad to know they kill Edith off and I dont know why they would do that. Edith made Archie the way Archie was. She put Archie more neural character than without her. Not sure I'll like this show when Edith is not on it. I'll keep watching though. I couldnt find anything on why they kill Edith off, Does anyone know why?

Jean Stapleton was tired of doing it and wanted off the show.

I'm thinking at first they weren't going to have Edith die? That is why they gave her those working hours of 12-8 at the home for the mentally impaired!;) So that if they did have scenes at the house and not the bar it would explain where Edith was. That would be a big chunk of time for her to be out if the house! ;)

Yesterday when I was watching, I was thinking , wow 8 hours a day , that's lot for an older woman back in the day to be working if her Husband was making enough/ good money! :eek:Most likely she would only work part time just to be out of the house a little bit and have her own "pocket money" ! ;)And those hours 12-8 seemed strange?:confused: So that is what got me thinking at first they weren't going to kill off Edith! ;)

Anyone agree? Thoughts on this.

Thats what i was thinking, why give her a job if shes not going to be around long.

Thats what i was thinking, why give her a job if shes not going to be around long.

Yeah, and those long strange hours too! Like I said in my other post, that would put Edith out of the house a lot ! ;)

And I'm showing my age here , 1979-80 was when I first started getting jobs. Minimum wage was around $2.50- $3.00 an hour. They were paying Edith 5.00, that wasn't a bad job! Hard working with the mentally unstable that many hours though! :confused:

Yeah, and those long strange hours too! Like I said in my other post, that would put Edith out of the house a lot ! ;)

And I'm showing my age here , 1979-80 was when I first started getting jobs. Minimum wage was around $2.50- $3.00 an hour. They were paying Edith 5.00, that wasn't a bad job! Hard working with the mentally unstable that many hours though! :confused:


Also to work with the mentally unstable she would need much more credentials than just working at an old age home a few hours a week in her previous job.

It's like the writers put very little thought into what to realistically do with Edith's character. They should've just killed her off from the get go of ABP.

Also to work with the mentally unstable she would need much more credentials than just working at an old age home a few hours a week in her previous job.

It's like the writers put very little thought into what to realistically do with Edith's character. They should've just killed her off from the get go of ABP.


Yeah, Totally!!! ;) I think they would definatly be looking to hire someone who was more trained in the care of the mentally ill for that position and esp.for that many hours! I think they would have had a lot more applicants much more qualified than Edith! ;)

Edith coming in applying , a sweet middle aged lady who did have job experience at the elderly home but no formal training and esp. No formal training in the mentally disabled field, they might like her and give her a try in a lower position like a few days a week, a few hours a day shift at minimum or a tiny bit higher than minimum wage and see how it goes ! I dought they seriously would hire her for the main position at two or two and a half dollars over minimum! They surely would have hired a more qualified , experienced person and back in the day a younger person being there weren't all the discrimination against age and all the labor laws back than like now!! ;)

Yeah, Totally!!! ;) I think they would definatly be looking to hire someone who was more trained in the care of the mentally ill for that position and esp.for that many hours! I think they would have had a lot more applicants much more qualified than Edith! ;)

Edith coming in applying , a sweet middle aged lady who did have job experience at the elderly home but no formal training and esp. No formal training in the mentally disabled field, they might like her and give her a try in a lower position like a few days a week, a few hours a day shift at minimum or a tiny bit higher than minimum wage and see how it goes ! I dought they seriously would hire her for the main position at two or two and a half dollars over minimum! They surely would have hired a more qualified , experienced person and back in the day a younger person being there weren't all the discrimination against age and all the labor laws back than like now!! ;)

For 9 seasons AITF kept firmly grounded in reality so much that those characters were like real people with situations that mirrored real life. That's why Edith suddenly working F/T at her age and in that era seems like such a glaring error made by the writers. The character would just NEVER do that unless she absolutely had to.

And yeah, to just waltz in and pick up a job like that with no experience was too out of the realm of reality that AITF always kept itself grounded in. They should've put more thought into it, especially when they showed in the previous season how much Edith wanted to care for little Stephanie....only to now dump her onto Archie to be a FT career woman is absurd.

It's something Gloria would do, but not Edith.

For 9 seasons AITF kept firmly grounded in reality so much that those characters were like real people with situations that mirrored real life. That's why Edith suddenly working F/T at her age and in that era seems like such a glaring error made by the writers. The character would just NEVER do that unless she absolutely had to.

And yeah, to just waltz in and pick up a job like that with no experience was too out of the realm of reality that AITF always kept itself grounded in. They should've put more thought into it, especially when they showed in the previous season how much Edith wanted to care for little Stephanie....only to now dump her onto Archie to be a FT career woman is absurd.

It's something Gloria would do, but not Edith.

Yeah I totally agree. Edith was that grandma/mother everyone wanted, she was a very caring lady and she would of stayed to take care of the kid first before heading out to a full time job. It was very out of character for her. Maybe thats where her frustration came from because they didn't know how to write for her. It's a shame of a show without her. I think Archie would be out of place without his lovely dingbat around to keep him in line.

Yeah I totally agree. Edith was that grandma/mother everyone wanted, she was a very caring lady and she would of stayed to take care of the kid first before heading out to a full time job. It was very out of character for her. Maybe thats where her frustration came from because they didn't know how to write for her. It's a shame of a show without her. I think Archie would be out of place without his lovely dingbat around to keep him in line.


Yeah even though ABP was a good show it wasn't nearly as good as AITF !;) It really lost alot of it's charm without Edith! :(

Yeah even though ABP was a good show it wasn't nearly as good as AITF !;) It really lost alot of it's charm without Edith! :(

I'll go even further and say it lost it's charm even with Edith.

After watching the first 5 episodes this week on Antenna TV it just doesn't have the same essence that AITF had. Even Archie & Edith seem to be "off" from what they were in the previous series. I can't really put my finger on it though....they both just seem "off".

And there's little things I notice that pulled me out of the show on Friday's episode. For one, it was snowing out like it was the middle of winter and the episode aired October 14, 1979. When I saw the snow falling, I thought I somehow missed the Thanksgiving reunion episode that i'm looking forward to see until I looked up the schedule.

And secondly, there was never a thermostat on the living room wall right by the stairs before. Usually, AITF was good at continuity in regards to the set. (Remember Irene's basement lock that trapped Archie in the cellar? That stayed there for seasons afterwards.)

I notice these little things after seeing the episodes dozens of times over and over lol. So tonight when I saw Archie turn up the thermostat I was like, "That was NEVER there before!"

I'm going to watch this entire series cycle through to it's end, but I think for me, it's more for curiosity sake to see the continuation of Archie's character evolve and then get right back to my beloved AITF episodes.

I swear, I can watch those 9 seasons over and over again and never tire of it. :heart:

I'll go even further and say it lost it's charm even with Edith.

After watching the first 5 episodes this week on Antenna TV it just doesn't have the same essence that AITF had. Even Archie & Edith seem to be "off" from what they were in the previous series. I can't really put my finger on it though....they both just seem "off".

And there's little things I notice that pulled me out of the show on Friday's episode. For one, it was snowing out like it was the middle of winter and the episode aired October 14, 1979. When I saw the snow falling, I thought I somehow missed the Thanksgiving reunion episode that i'm looking forward to see until I looked up the schedule.

And secondly, there was never a thermostat on the living room wall right by the stairs before. Usually, AITF was good at continuity in regards to the set. (Remember Irene's basement lock that trapped Archie in the cellar? That stayed there for seasons afterwards.)

I notice these little things after seeing the episodes dozens of times over and over lol. So tonight when I saw Archie turn up the thermostat I was like, "That was NEVER there before!"

I'm going to watch this entire series cycle through to it's end, but I think for me, it's more for curiosity sake to see the continuation of Archie's character evolve and then get right back to my beloved AITF episodes.

I swear, I can watch those 9 seasons over and over again and never tire of it. :heart:


Yeah, it's been alot of years , and I only saw ABP first run never in rerums but hang in there, SPOILER ALERT : New characters will be added down the line to keep it interesting and yeah like I said before it's a pretty good show from what I remember ! ;)

Now that you mention it, it did seem almost like Jean Stapleton was just there, like she really wasn't into doing the show anymore but was trying her best to not show it! :confused: And Carroll O'Connor seemed like he wanted to do more bar scenes than home scenes at that point! ;)

Yeah, it's been alot of years , and I only saw ABP first run never in rerums but hang in there, SPOILER ALERT : New characters will be added down the line to keep it interesting and yeah like I said before it's a pretty good show from what I remember ! ;)

Now that you mention it, it did seem almost like Jean Stapleton was just there, like she really wasn't into doing the show anymore but was trying her best to not show it! :confused: And Carroll O'Connor seemed like he wanted to do more bar scenes than home scenes at that point! ;)

I know actress Anne Meara comes in at some point and i'm really looking forward to seeing her in this. I loved her role on "The King of Queens" as Spence's mother. (which is another 9 season sitcom that I can watch over and over and never tire of.)

And secondly, there was never a thermostat on the living room wall right by the stairs before. Usually, AITF was good at continuity in regards to the set. (Remember Irene's basement lock that trapped Archie in the cellar? That stayed there for seasons afterwards.)



If I recall correctly, they moved back to CBS Television City from Metromedia Square between season 9 and ABP S1. So there's your explanation for set differences.

Back to Edith working . And all of us thinking it was out of character for her to take a job with that many hours till 8PM at night (also we never mentioned how if she was off at 8 she would be out after dark most likely on a Subway or walking home being she didn't drive! A lady by herself at night in NY!! How unsafe!!!)!! :eek::confused:

Anyway I was thinking it would have been much better and much more in character for Edith to take a job as a lunch lady at Stephanie's school! ;)Daytime hours, she would be near Stephanie while working and home when Stephanie was home from school!;) Couldn't you picture Edith as a lunch lady? Working in a school cafeteria? I think that would be a perfect position for her , I think even Archie would approve of that job!;) Way better than a center for the mentally ill !! That was just strange!!!:confused:

If I recall correctly, they moved back to CBS Television City from Metromedia Square between season 9 and ABP S1. So there's your explanation for set differences.

I never knew they changed studios. Yes, that could definitely explain set changes. I do remember reading that they stopped having studio audiences beginning in season 9....could that have been because of the studio change?

Back to Edith working . And all of us thinking it was out of character for her to take a job with that many hours till 8PM at night (also we never mentioned how if she was off at 8 she would be out after dark most likely on a Subway or walking home being she didn't drive! A lady by herself at night in NY!! How unsafe!!!)!! :eek::confused:

Anyway I was thinking it would have been much better and much more in character for Edith to take a job as a lunch lady at Stephanie's school! ;)Daytime hours, she would be near Stephanie while working and home when Stephanie was home from school!;) Couldn't you picture Edith as a lunch lady? Working in a school cafeteria? I think that would be a perfect position for her , I think even Archie would approve of that job!;) Way better than a center for the mentally ill !! That was just strange!!!:confused:

That would have been a good idea and more fun than Edith working in a mental hospital where you never saw her. They could have had great scenes with Edith and Stephanie in the school cafeteria.

I also thought to myself why didn't they just have Edith help out in Archie's bar part time? It was the most logical choice since she was half owner of the business when he forged her name on the mortgage loan. (Or as Archie would say..."TRACED Edith! I TRACED!") lol.

I think by that time though Jean Stapleton wanted out and only agreed to a handful of episodes in the first season and when the writers realized that couldn't work long term always filming around Edith, she just said to kill her off instead. (which I agree with)

I think she was just done with television in general by that point. I read she was offered the lead role in "Murder, She Wrote" that went to Angela Lansbury because she didn't want to do another TV series.

I could see her doing Lansbury's role and think it would have fit her perfectly.

She did take later, bit parts (she had early character parts, too). I remember her in a bit part of a first-season Everybody Loves Raymond.

I never knew they changed studios. Yes, that could definitely explain set changes. I do remember reading that they stopped having studio audiences beginning in season 9....could that have been because of the studio change?

It wasn't the first time they moved.

I'm going from memory, but the show was originally shot at Television City for the first five seasons, then Lear's shows moved en masse to Metromedia Square when AITF season 6 started. You could tell the difference then because the show was lit differently, and they started using more and different camera angles and inserted close-ups. Eventually, it was that style of shooting, which was more like a one camera show instead of the traditional three camera live audience show, that probably led to the audiences going away.

I mean, if they were already shooting a good portion of the show without an audience when they went back to get close-ups and handheld shots and everything else, why not just do it entirely like a one camera show?

I know the last season didn’t have a studio audience at all. The episode was filmed then later the tape was played before a live audience to get laughter and responses.

SPOILER: (DON'T READ UNLESS YOU'VE VIEWED THE PAUL LYNDE SHOW TONIGHT): Changing the subject to the Paul Lynde Show, which just aired, the plot was a little weak and hard to adapt to, but Lynde makes up for it by his over the top comedy.

He's an attorney trying to cope with life, with a new son in law who is extremely bright, but seems to cause trouble (mostly for him) at every turn. Example: he was about to evict a theater owner (Dick Van Patten) who was evidently showing X rated movies, but the son in law uses his law knowledge to talk the owner out of accepting the eviction. Won't reveal the end...

I had been forgetting that I want to watch The Paul Lynde Show and Lotsa Luck on Saturday's on Antenna TV, today I remembered and watched these for the first time.

I liked The Paul Lynde Show, But I think Paul Lynde was better as a supporting chatacter, for example as Uncle Arthur in Bewitched. In his own show, he seems to get a little overbearing after awhile, maybe that's a reason why his sitcom didn't get a second season, I don't know, but still overall I enjoyed the episode, it was fun.

Lotsa Luck was good too, I liked this one a little more and I've always liked Beverly Sanders, she was cute looking back in those days. :eyes:

I'll have to remember now to watch both shows on Saturdays, either that or go ahead and program my DVR to record them in case I forget again. :lol:

The Paul Lynde Show has some funny moments (LOL, in fact), but I think you're right about his niche being a supporting actor. The premise of this show isn't really well-defined enough to carry it on for the long haul. There's only so much you can do with a show about a guy who doesn't approve of the man his daughter married. The younger daughter is a tad too smart mouth, too.

Maybe they should have spun him off as Uncle Arthur.

I have yet to see Lotsa Luck.

After Paul Lynde's sitcom was cancelled, he was given a role the following season in the re-vamped Temperature's Rising sitcom, but then that series ended up being cancelled too.

I have very little recollection of Temperature's Rising, I did watch it occasionally back in the day when it originally aired on ABC. I do remember actress Nancy Fox, she played the role of a student nurse, I remember her because she was cute looking. :eyes: The cute ones I remember. ;) :lol:

I just discovered there are episodes of Temperature's Rising posted on You Tube. Very cool, I'll have to watch some of these and get familiar with the show again. :)

I had been forgetting that I want to watch The Paul Lynde Show and Lotsa Luck on Saturday's on Antenna TV, today I remembered and watched these for the first time.

I liked The Paul Lynde Show, But I think Paul Lynde was better as a supporting chatacter, for example as Uncle Arthur in Bewitched. In his own show, he seems to get a little overbearing after awhile, maybe that's a reason why his sitcom didn't get a second season, I don't know, but still overall I enjoyed the episode, it was fun.

Lotsa Luck was good too, I liked this one a little more and I've always liked Beverly Sanders, she was cute looking back in those days. :eyes:

I'll have to remember now to watch both shows on Saturdays, either that or go ahead and program my DVR to record them in case I forget again. :lol:


Because of my work schedule I have to miss Paul Lynde and Lotsa Luck! :(However I did get off work earlier a couple of Saturdays! I was able to watch 2 Lotsa Luck eps. and but only about 5 minutes of Paul Lynde :(

I think Lotsa Luck is really good, very funny!:) Such a 70's NY comedy! Love the Mother, and the old east coast type house they live in! And Beverly Sanders with her VERY thick glasses, She is a cute lady and in this show they are trying to make her look less attractive obviously! :D IDK is she even wearing a fake nose, along with the big , thick glasses? Her nose isn't usually as big as it is in this show I don't think? ;) Remembering her from Rhoda and guest starring on One day at a time and Sanford and Son! ;)

Because of my work schedule I have to miss Paul Lynde and Lotsa Luck! :(However I did get off work earlier a couple of Saturdays! I was able to watch 2 Lotsa Luck eps. and but only about 5 minutes of Paul Lynde :(

I think Lotsa Luck is really good, very funny!:) Such a 70's NY comedy! Love the Mother, and the old east coast type house they live in! And Beverly Sanders with her VERY thick glasses, She is a cute lady and in this show they are trying to make her look less attractive obviously! :D IDK is she even wearing a fake nose, along with the big , thick glasses? Her nose isn't usually as big as it is in this show I don't think? ;) Remembering her from Rhoda and guest starring on One day at a time and Sanford and Son! ;)

Beverly Sanders is a cute looking woman, in some ways she resembles Cathy Baker from Hee Haw. In yesterdays episode of Lotsa Luck, Beverly was wearing curlers and a hair net, wearing frumpy looking clothes too but she still looked cute. Then later in the episode she was wearing a bedroom dress and she looked mighty fine displaying that nighty. :eyes:

While watching Paul Lynde Show and Lotsa Luck yesterday, aside from the credit crunches, I noticed there were fewer commercials than usual and it looked like Antenna TV ran both shows uncut. If anything was missing, it wasn't much. I thought that was interesting.

Antenna TV should air The Joey Bishop Show uncut instead of these edited versions they've been airing. But if they would do that, I'd have to record all the episodes again and make another set of DVD's, it was enough work the first time around recording the edited ones and I don't know if I'd want to go through the process all over again.

DVD's of Lotsa Luck can still be purchased, but the set has been out of print for awhile and sellers are drastically marking up the price. :rolleyes:

Paul Lynde Show runs over 24 minutes--pretty sure there are no edits. I don't want to re-ignite the credits issue, but it does make a mess of getting a nice, clean copy of a show.

I think others have made the point that Antenna TV does not edit the shows--they run the length they get. Other stations also do this--I know a local station, WHMB here, used to run My Three Sons full-length, for example.

I really wish Sony would provide full-length of all their episodes in syndication--it would reduce the garbage ads on Antenna TV immensely--they probably receive very little revenue from those extra ads. I know we've had the Joey Bishop discussion before, but I imagine SFM provides them the syndication cuts. It'd be nice to know whether they have a syndication or full-length option.

The RTV channel has also been airing The Joey Bishop Show, I watched some of those and they air the episodes more complete than Antenna TV does, there are scenes on the RTV airings that Antenna TV doesn't show.

But now I can no longer watch Joey Bishop on RTV because that time slot has been taken over by either a useless 30 minute infomercial or a garbage local program.

The RTV channel in my area is terrible. Most of the RTV programs aren't even seen, much of the schedule is filled with useless infomercials and trashy local programs like the one about deadbeat dad's who don't pay their child support. And this garbage is what part of my expensive monthly cable TV bill goes towards paying. It is ridiculous.

Sounds like My Three Sons, season 12 on MeTV. They had scenes that the Odyssey/Hallmark version didn't, and sometimes vice versa. Also subpar quality--needs remastering. They have a '70s Viacom logo at the end.

The RTV channel has also been airing The Joey Bishop Show, I watched some of those and they air the episodes more complete than Antenna TV does, there are scenes on the RTV airings that Antenna TV doesn't show.

But now I can no longer watch Joey Bishop on RTV because that time slot has been taken over by either a useless 30 minute infomercial or a garbage local program.

The RTV channel in my area is terrible. Most of the RTV programs aren't even seen, much of the schedule is filled with useless infomercials and trashy local programs like the one about deadbeat dad's who don't pay their child support. And this garbage is what part of my expensive monthly cable TV bill goes towards paying. It is ridiculous.

You're probably talking about stuff such as Maury and The Jerry Springer Show.

You're probably talking about stuff such as Maury and The Jerry Springer Show.

I don't think the RTV channel in my area has Maury or Jerry Springer, but much of the time they show other useless garbage instead of the actual programs on the RTV lineup. It's a terrible channel.

Paul Lynde Show runs over 24 minutes--pretty sure there are no edits. I don't want to re-ignite the credits issue, but it does make a mess of getting a nice, clean copy of a show.

I think others have made the point that Antenna TV does not edit the shows--they run the length they get. Other stations also do this--I know a local station, WHMB here, used to run My Three Sons full-length, for example.

I really wish Sony would provide full-length of all their episodes in syndication--it would reduce the garbage ads on Antenna TV immensely--they probably receive very little revenue from those extra ads. I know we've had the Joey Bishop discussion before, but I imagine SFM provides them the syndication cuts. It'd be nice to know whether they have a syndication or full-length option.

I should have bought the Lotsa Luck DVD's a few years back when the set first came out but I wasn't really interested at the time. But now that I've seen an episode and reminded how cute Beverly Sanders is :eyes:, I'm interested in the DVD's :lol:. Problem is the DVD's are now out of print and most sellers want a small fortune for it. Oh well that's the way it goes.

I would buy The Paul Lynde Show series on DVD if it was released with the uncut episodes. I'm not planning to collect the episodes from Antenna TV. I did that with seasons 1, 3, and 4 of The Joey Bishop Show, made my own DVD's. There are two episodes from season 3 that have minor technical problems and I want to record those again, they're scheduled to air at the end of this month so if I can record them problem free I'll be done.

I don't think the RTV channel in my area has Maury or Jerry Springer, but much of the time they show other useless garbage instead of the actual programs on the RTV lineup. It's a terrible channel.

Sorry.

Sorry.

It's OK, RTV isn't a very good retro channel anyway, the only time I tuned in was to see The Joey Bishop Show, and since that's now been taken away I don't watch the channel at all now.

I'm just surprised that the local station in my area that carries RTV is allowed to get away with not airing most of RTV's shows and airing other garbage instead. I would think that the people running RTV wouldn't approve, maybe they don't care, I don't know, it's crazy. :crazy:

It's OK, RTV isn't a very good retro channel anyway, the only time I tuned in was to see The Joey Bishop Show, and since that's now been taken away I don't watch the channel at all now.

I'm just surprised that the local station in my area that carries RTV is allowed to get away with not airing most of RTV's shows and airing other garbage instead. I would think that the people running RTV wouldn't approve, maybe they don't care, I don't know, it's crazy. :crazy:

Back home, we don't even get RTV.

Back home, we don't even get RTV.

You aren't missing much, although RTV does show some rare old sitcoms that aren't seen on other channels, for example they have I Married Joan, Life With Elizabeth, Private Secretary, but the video quality of these isn't very good, they definitely haven't been restored in any way. RTV also has Petticoat Junction and The Lucy Show, but the video quality of those isn't too good either and when the closing credits roll there is different music playing in the background, it isn't the original music. Maybe these are old syndication prints from years ago that they are airing, I don't know.

From what I've seen of RTV, they seem to be a pretty low budget channel. They sort of remind me of another low budget cable channel I used to watch in the 1980's, the name of the channel was Tempo Television, it was located in Tulsa Oklahoma. I became a fan of Tempo TV because they would show East Side Kids movies and I like those, but again the station had poor quality prints and the video quality wasn't very good, I have since found better copies.

I remember one Halloween night I was watching Tempo TV and they were showing an obscure low budget spooky movie, it wasn't really that spooky but it sure was strange, I don't remember the name of the movie and don't remember who the actors were, I just remember thinking at the time, what the hell is this and why are they showing this obscure drivel? :crazy: :lol:

You aren't missing much, although RTV does show some rare old sitcoms that aren't seen on other channels, for example they have I Married Joan, Life With Elizabeth, Private Secretary, but the video quality of these isn't very good, they definitely haven't been restored in any way. RTV also has Petticoat Junction and The Lucy Show, but the video quality of those isn't too good either and when the closing credits roll there is different music playing in the background, it isn't the original music. Maybe these are old syndication prints from years ago that they are airing, I don't know.

From what I've seen of RTV, they seem to be a pretty low budget channel. They sort of remind me of another low budget cable channel I used to watch in the 1980's, the name of the channel was Tempo Television, it was located in Tulsa Oklahoma. I became a fan of Tempo TV because they would show East Side Kids movies and I like those, but again the station had poor quality prints and the video quality wasn't very good, I have since found better copies.

I remember one Halloween night I was watching Tempo TV and they were showing an obscure low budget spooky movie, it wasn't really that spooky but it sure was strange, I don't remember the name of the movie and don't remember who the actors were, I just remember thinking at the time, what the hell is this and why are they showing this obscure drivel? :crazy: :lol:

Shame that Decades will be dropped where I am come September.

Shame that Decades will be dropped where I am come September.

I've never had the Decades channel, my cable service doesn't offer it as far as I know.

From what I've seen of RTV, they seem to be a pretty low budget channel.


I haven't seen RTV in years, but back in 2009 or 2010 it was the first retro digital subchannel in existence in my area. They had mostly shows that now air on the other networks (adam 12, dragnet, etc), with the addition of a few like Kate and Allie and The Bold Ones, which I don't think have been aired since then. Once the competition picked up they lost a lot of affiliates (AntennaTV replaced it here in 2011) and they settled for showing mostly public domain sitcoms on low power stations.

I've never had the Decades channel, my cable service doesn't offer it as far as I know.

Shame that it's being dropped in order for something I won't be watching.

I hope Antenna gets more WB shows (namely Chico and the Man, It's a Living, Perfect Strangers, My Sister Sam and Flo). Flo would make sense seeing as they already air Alice. It's a Living would go great in a block with Alice and Murphy Brown.

Shame that Decades will be dropped where I am come September.

I know what you mean; our area will lose it too.:(

Did Decades will still be avaliable in Tampa Bay ? If yes, HOOORAY ! If not, UUUUUUGH :(

At least if Tampa Bay lose Decades, we are going to get The Division reruns on Start TV, WOO HOO ! I love this show alongside Strong Medecine and 1-800 Missing, my favourite Lifetime drama series.

Antenna shows a lot of shows I like, I wish I could get this channel!

Luckily, I open several of the series they show on DVD.

Is Antenna airing Lotsa Luck out of order?

The Paul Lynde Show seems to match up with an episode list.

But for LL, my DVR is telling me that episodes aired in the following order:

8, 4, 3, 2.

Don't care as long as I can get them all, but ATV normally seems to air in order with slight deviation like skipping a Christmas episode at times until next airing.

I noticed also that Antenna TV is airing the Lotsa Luck episodes out of order. I don't know why that is.

I went ahead and bought the DVD set of Lotsa Luck, found a used set on ebay in great condition, had to pay more than I wanted to for it because the set is out of print but at least I now have the DVD's. I've already watched a few episodes and they are funny, will watch some more later. Dom DeLuise is funny and Beverly Sanders is a honey, she's cute looking. :eyes:

With the Paul Lynde Show, looks maybe like Antenna TV might be skipping an episode, on Antenna's website, episode 5 is airing next but then the following week it shows episode 7 is airing. Don't know what's wrong with episode 6, maybe they will air it at a later time.

I'm not planning to record and collect the Paul Lynde episodes, just watch them when Antenna runs them. If the series gets released on DVD with the uncut episodes I might buy it though.

I know what you mean; our area will lose it too.:(

Sorry to hear your area will be losing it too. :(

I haven't seen RTV in years, but back in 2009 or 2010 it was the first retro digital subchannel in existence in my area. They had mostly shows that now air on the other networks (adam 12, dragnet, etc), with the addition of a few like Kate and Allie and The Bold Ones, which I don't think have been aired since then. Once the competition picked up they lost a lot of affiliates (AntennaTV replaced it here in 2011) and they settled for showing mostly public domain sitcoms on low power stations.
Our cable company dropped RTN a few years ago. It had really fallen since their heyday.

Another reason I'm glad I bought the Lotsa Luck DVD set is that it has the series pilot episode. I don't know if Antenna TV plans to run this episode or not. The DVD set actually has 23 episodes, the 22 series episodes plus the pilot.

I watched the pilot last night and it was funny, Olive accidentally breaks the family's toilet and the episode is about their adventures to replace it. After Stanley installs the new toilet (it is 1970's style, orange with a purple lid and seat :crazy:), he discovers that the bathroom door won't close, when he attempts to close the door it bumps into the bowl of the just installed toilet. :lol:

I think there is an error on the first disc of the DVD set regarding episode titles. The pilot episode is unnamed, but I believe the episode's title is "Olive's Present". However, this same title is used for the series first official episode (disc 1 episode 1) and I think this is probably incorrect. The end result is, "Olive's Present" is the title of the pilot episode, and the actual title of the series first official episode is a mystery.

From a visual standpoint, Lotsa Luck resembles other sitcoms from the era like All In The Family and Sanford And Son. It was a good enough show to stay on the air for a few seasons, but in the one season it had I guess it didn't draw enough ratings so the network cancelled it. Too bad.

The Paul Lynde Show has some funny moments (LOL, in fact), but I think you're right about his niche being a supporting actor. The premise of this show isn't really well-defined enough to carry it on for the long haul. There's only so much you can do with a show about a guy who doesn't approve of the man his daughter married. The younger daughter is a tad too smart mouth, too.

Maybe they should have spun him off as Uncle Arthur.

ABC wanted a 9th season of Bewitched but Elizabeth Montgomery didn't want to do the show anymore so Paul Lynde ended up getting his own show.

Spinning him off as Uncle Arthur in a new series probably wouldn't have worked either, Paul Lynde having the lead role in a sitcom just didn't go over too well, he was the type of actor who was better when playing a lesser/supporting role.

Having said that, I agree that The Paul Lynde Show does have it's funny moments, I have to give Antenna TV credit for bringing some of these one season sitcoms from 40-50 years ago out of the darkness and giving people a chance to see them again. I'm not collecting the episodes from Antenna TV, but if the series would get a DVD release with the uncut episodes I would probably buy it.

I watched the Paul Lynde episode yesterday on Antenna TV and didn't care that much for it, too much shouting and yelling, Paul Lynde was mostly annoying, I can see why this series didn't get renewed for a 2nd season.

In some ways I think they tried to copy All In The Family with this show, with the arguing and controversial topics, but All In The Family is funny while Paul Lynde's show is only occasionally funny, overall it just doesn't go over that well.

But I would probably still buy a DVD set of the series if it was released with the uncut episodes. It's a one season sitcom from the early 70's, still a decent enough era for TV shows, in the late 70's is when TV shows started going into decline.

These are pretty close to uncut, running over 24 minutes.

I saw that episode--probably the worst in the series so far. A lot of pointless slapstick.

These are pretty close to uncut, running over 24 minutes.

I saw that episode--probably the worst in the series so far. A lot of pointless slapstick.

Yes the episode yesterday wasn't very good. Maybe the ep. they show next week will be better.

I'm not recording the episodes, but aside from the credit crunching nonsense, Antenna does seem to run the shows uncut or close to uncut, which is surprising. I wish they would show the Joey Bishop's uncut.

These episodes don't have the choppiness typical of their other edited Screen Gems shows. At over 24 minutes my guess is these are complete episodes, for a 1972 show.

I did copy the first 5, but didn't bother to keep last night's. If they were going to skip an episode, it should have been that one.

One interesting thing about this show is that it's a multi-camera sitcom. I'm not aware of any Screen Gems production prior to this that's multi-camera. It has nice-looking sets, better than most multi-camera sitcoms.

I agree Paul Lynde's sitcom is visually pleasing with that early 1970's vibe, it's a flawed sitcom but from a visual/sets viewpoint it has appeal.

Actually I like The Paul Lynde Show better than Lotsa Luck but I don't really love either.

In my opinion Lotsa Luck is funnier than The Paul Lynde Show, another plus with Lotsa Luck is that it has Beverly Sanders, I think she's cute looking. :eyes:

In Paul Lynde's sitcom, Pamelyn Ferdin is sort of cute looking but she's too young. :lol:

In my opinion Lotsa Luck is funnier than The Paul Lynde Show, another plus with Lotsa Luck is that it has Beverly Sanders, I think she's cute looking. :eyes:

In Paul Lynde's sitcom, Pamelyn Ferdin is sort of cute looking but she's too young. :lol:

Neither are what I would call fantastic, but they're fun shows. To me, The Paul Lynde Show is better. But that's just me.

Kudos to Antenna for dusting off shows like these. I'm hopeful for others, such as The Governor and J.J., Funny Face, and The Brian Keith Show.

Kudos to Antenna for dusting off shows like these. I'm hopeful for others, such as The Governor and J.J., Funny Face, and The Brian Keith Show.

Funny Face with Sandy Duncan, Sandy is another cutie, she was a honey back in those days, nice boobs too, she wore her hair short but on her the short hairstyle looked good. If I recall, she had an eye problem and ended up losing sight in one eye which caused her show to be cancelled at mid season. Then the next season they re-vamped the show and brought it back, but it didn't succeed and it too was cancelled at mid season.

The Brian Keith Show aka The Little People, from what I remember the show took place in Hawaii so Brian Keith wore those Hawaiian shirts all the time, he played the role of a children's doctor so there were a lot of kids in the show. And if I recall, there was an actress in the show playing the role of a nurse, she had that Polynesian look and had long black hair, I'm not sure about this but that's what I recall.

I would also like to see these short lived sitcoms:

Please Don't Eat The Daisies

Hey Landlord

OK Crackerby with Burl Ives

Rango with Tim Conway

And here's an interesting one from 1974, Paul Sand In Friends And Lovers. This one is interesting because it's a MTM show, CBS gave it a lot of publicity and it was predicted to be a hit show of the 1974-75 season, but it turned out to be a ratings failure and was cancelled at mid season. I think part of the problem might have been that most people didn't know who Paul Sand was so they didn't tune in to watch the show. I would like to see these episodes too.

Maybe Antenna TV should start a new TV channel/sister station where they show all these short lived sitcoms (two seasons or less) from the 60's and 70's.

Paul Sand might have drawn CBS' attention by his first season appearance on MTM Show. His scenes with Mary and the adding machine (I guess the calculator hadn't been invented yet) were pretty funny. It was one of the better episodes in a pretty lackluster season, where the best episode was the pilot.

Antenna could do a two hour block of these "One Hit Wonders" on Sunday afternoon...TV Land used to do a block like that, years ago.

Neither are what I would call fantastic, but they're fun shows. To me, The Paul Lynde Show is better. But that's just me.

Neither show is a classic but both have their fun moments. I went ahead and bought the Lotsa Luck DVD set, paid more than I wanted to for it but at least I now have the DVD's. I would probably buy Paul Lynde's show on DVD if it was released with the uncut episodes.

Paul Sand might have drawn CBS' attention by his first season appearance on MTM Show. His scenes with Mary and the adding machine (I guess the calculator hadn't been invented yet) were pretty funny. It was one of the better episodes in a pretty lackluster season, where the best episode was the pilot.

Antenna could do a two hour block of these "One Hit Wonders" on Sunday afternoon...TV Land used to do a block like that, years ago.

GetTV has aired some long unseen sitcoms like Peter Loves Mary, Ghost & Mrs. Muir, Nanny & The Professor, and Girl With Something Extra. I recorded PLM and GWSE but not the other two.