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http://www.tmz.com/2018/06/01/abc-talking-roseanne-reboot-centered-sara-gilbert-character/

"The powers that be at ABC are exploring the possibility of re-branding the show and focusing on the character Darlene instead of Roseanne," according to TMZ, in a report confirmed by TV Line (http://tvline.com/2018/06/01/roseanne-spinoff-darlene-sara-gilbert-abc-renewed/). "We're told Sara's been calling cast members to gauge their interest in the event ABC gives the reboot the green light. We're told John Goodman is 'very interested," says TMZ. Many Roseanne reviews said that the revival really revolved around Darlene, and not Roseanne Conner. Darlene was even considered by some to be the best reason to watch Roseanne (https://www.thecut.com/2018/03/darlene-is-the-best-character-on-the-new-roseanne-reboot.html). ALSO: Joe Rogan defends Roseanne on his podcast. (http://thought-valerie-jarrett-was-jewish/)

Wouldn’t be horrible. Obviously they’re going to try to find a way to shut Roseanne out of the profits, if they go that route. We might be seeing a legal battle here soon.

I think it best to just let it go.

I wasn't initially excited about the reboot when it was first announced but decided to watch it. I watched all 9 episodes. It was ok but not great.

I'll just choose to pretend season 10 never existed.

Another "reboot" is not a good idea.

I hope it happens. The cast is strong enough to go on without her.

I hope it happens. The cast is strong enough to go on without her.
That's for damn sure!

Go Sara, Michael, Lecy!!! They do not need Roseanne anymore. They are no longer dopey children. They are all middle aged adults. Big difference.

Report: ABC to hear Roseanne spinoff ideas, but it doesn't want Roseanne Barr to benefit financially (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/roseanne-canceled-abc-open-spinoff-ideas-1116621)

The Hollywood Reporter says there have been no formal discussions to revive Roseanne without Rosanne Barr, but a meeting between producers and ABC is scheduled for next week. As The Hollywood Reporter's Lesley Goldberg reports, ABC is "open to potential spinoff ideas with a catch: they have to be without Roseanne Barr and the actress and former head writer of the sitcom would not be able to financially benefit from any new incarnation of the series." Producers are up for any idea, including the Darlene-centered spinoff (https://www.tmz.com/2018/06/01/abc-talking-roseanne-reboot-centered-sara-gilbert-character/) that TMZ reported on earlier Friday. Still, Goldberg adds, "continuing Roseanne without Barr attached in any form may prove challenging. The series was created by Matt Williams and is based upon a character created by Barr. That could make an offshoot a thorny debate as it's unclear if just the character of Roseanne Conner falls under Barr's oversight."

ALSO:

"There was always a feeling that something was going to happen," (https://people.com/tv/roseanne-cancellation-feeling-something-going-to-happen-roseanne-barr/) a Roseanne show source tells People magazine. "There was always a heightened awareness with her and we were always on edge about her going off track...But you just hold your breath until it does. Did we think she would say something like that? No. But then it all fell apart.”
Since Roseanne Barr has ownership/backend, she could mount a legal challenge over a Roseanne spinoff (https://deadline.com/2018/06/roseanne-followup-spinoff-without-roseanne-abc-darlene-pitch-meeting-problems-1202402239/)
Why did Roseanne stay off Twitter throughout Friday? (https://deadline.com/2018/06/roseanne-radio-silent-day-1202402291/)
Why would Roseanne's Trump-supporting fans tune in for a spinoff revolving around liberal Darlene? (https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/abc-is-trying-to-figure-out-how-to-keep-profiting-off-o-1826497732)

Report: ABC to hear Roseanne spinoff ideas, but it doesn't want Roseanne Barr to benefit financially (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/roseanne-canceled-abc-open-spinoff-ideas-1116621)

The Hollywood Reporter says there have been no formal discussions to revive Roseanne without Rosanne Barr, but a meeting between producers and ABC is scheduled for next week. As The Hollywood Reporter's Lesley Goldberg reports, ABC is "open to potential spinoff ideas with a catch: they have to be without Roseanne Barr and the actress and former head writer of the sitcom would not be able to financially benefit from any new incarnation of the series." Producers are up for any idea, including the Darlene-centered spinoff (https://www.tmz.com/2018/06/01/abc-talking-roseanne-reboot-centered-sara-gilbert-character/) that TMZ reported on earlier Friday. Still, Goldberg adds, "continuing Roseanne without Barr attached in any form may prove challenging. The series was created by Matt Williams and is based upon a character created by Barr. That could make an offshoot a thorny debate as it's unclear if just the character of Roseanne Conner falls under Barr's oversight."

ALSO:

"There was always a feeling that something was going to happen," (https://people.com/tv/roseanne-cancellation-feeling-something-going-to-happen-roseanne-barr/) a Roseanne show source tells People magazine. "There was always a heightened awareness with her and we were always on edge about her going off track...But you just hold your breath until it does. Did we think she would say something like that? No. But then it all fell apart.”
Since Roseanne Barr has ownership/backend, she could mount a legal challenge over a Roseanne spinoff (https://deadline.com/2018/06/roseanne-followup-spinoff-without-roseanne-abc-darlene-pitch-meeting-problems-1202402239/)
Why did Roseanne stay off Twitter throughout Friday? (https://deadline.com/2018/06/roseanne-radio-silent-day-1202402291/)
Why would Roseanne's Trump-supporting fans tune in for a spinoff revolving around liberal Darlene? (https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/abc-is-trying-to-figure-out-how-to-keep-profiting-off-o-1826497732)

I read the article about "Why would Roseanne's Trump supporting fans tune in for a spinoff revolving around liberal Darlene"? And my response is, this...

Who said people are only tuning in for the politics, and also, who said the show had to have a conservative voice to be successful? Roseanne was a liberal show in the '80s and '90s that depicted working class America, and when it was liberal, it was subtle. Obviously it did well enough to last for 9 seasons.

The economic divide in America and the family are reasons why people are tuning in, not so much the political divide between the characters, I would argue. People are turned off when shows get heavy on politics or agenda driven storylines anyway!

Also, I think the show can survive without Roseanne, a lot of people are alienated to the reboot already because of her alt-right thinking and support of Donald Trump.

In addition, John and Laurie are two of the strongest actors in Hollywood (stronger and more successful that Roseanne, I'd argue), plus all the children are all grown up and all but Becky have their own children, so there's still plenty to discuss and they can all carry the weight of the show. Throw in some other characters in there that we haven't heard in awhile and they've still got more plots to work with! Who said it had to be all about Roseanne? I think Roseanne is overrated anyway.

While Roseanne's comments were deplorable I did not hear any out cry when Hillary insulted many key voters in Michigan and Pennsylvania when she called them deplorable. It was this remark that may have cost her those states in the election. Second the idea of replacing Roseanne is not new. In the early 1990s there was talk of the same idea but never developed. It never developed because Roseanne was to much of a big figure to ignore. In fact The new show would start under the cloud of controversary. I also see a major lawsuit against the new show as Roseanne still has a major financial stake in the characters in show.

While Roseanne's comments were deplorable I did not hear any out cry when Hillary insulted many key voters in Michigan and Pennsylvania when she called them deplorable. It was this remark that may have cost her those states in the election.

Because calling people deplorable and calling a black person an "ape" are two separate things. Also, what does this situation have to do with Hillary? Hillary is not on this show.The 2016 presidential race is completely separate from this show. I don't understand how people can even make these comparisons.

While Roseanne's comments were deplorable I did not hear any out cry when Hillary insulted many key voters in Michigan and Pennsylvania when she called them deplorable. It was this remark that may have cost her those states in the election. Second the idea of replacing Roseanne is not new. In the early 1990s there was talk of the same idea but never developed. It never developed because Roseanne was to much of a big figure to ignore. In fact The new show would start under the cloud of controversary. I also see a major lawsuit against the new show as Roseanne still has a major financial stake in the characters in show.
Don't rally care about that. Hillary's not on ABC. But Joy Behar is and she insulted all Christians by saying what she said on the View. And all the stuff that is said even on ESPN which is owned by ABC which if the same thing was said about Obama they would have lost their job. What Roseanne said was deplorable and racist and if ABC wants to cancel her show then fine. Just be consistent about it. And Roseanne has always been a problem even in the 1990's. ABC knew who she was and so did everyone connected to her show. They put up with it then. Now everybody is trying to act with such outrage. If she attacked somebody from the right or even an African-American conservative an apology probably would have been enough. It's the double standard I hate. I'm done talking on the subject .

Don't rally care about that. Hillary's not on ABC. But Joy Behar is and she insulted all Christians by saying what she said on the View. And all the stuff that is said even on ESPN which is owned by ABC which if the same thing was said about Obama they would have lost their job. What Roseanne said was deplorable and racist and if ABC wants to cancel her show then fine. Just be consistent about it. And Roseanne has always been a problem even in the 1990's. ABC knew who she was and so did everyone connected to her show. They put up with it then. Now everybody is trying to act with such outrage. If she attacked somebody from the right or even an African-American conservative an apology probably would have been enough. It's the double standard I hate. I'm done talking on the subject .

Me too.

I'm with the people who mentioned Joy Behar. That's one "lady" I cannot tolerate.

ABC will be under tremendous pressure by liberals to continue the show without her. All that mock crying about the cast and crew being unemployed. If the show were canceled some other show would take its place and those people are unemployed now. Liberals desperately want to see the show succeed without her so they can tout that America really hates Trump supporters. Of course, they all have been bashing the show saying how horrible it was, but magically with everything being the same except Rosanne they will all love it. I haven't ever watched the Roseanne Show nor will I start now.

ABC could make a Roseanne spinoff announcement as early as this week (http://www.tmz.com/2018/06/04/abc-roseanne-reboot-announcement-imminent/)
TMZ reports that executive producer Tom Werner began negotiations for a Roseanne Barr-less Roseanne over the weekend. "His involvement has all but sealed the deal," says TMZ, which adds: "There is a possible snag. Although ABC seems to have good cause to fire Roseanne as both the star and executive producer, the network may be contractually bound to pay her a fee or back end or both for her participation in creating the show. ABC, of course, could argue it's now a different show." The Hollywood Reporter adds that "it's likely the entire cast (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/roseanne-spinoff-inches-closer-reality-at-abc-1117075) — sans star Roseanne Barr — and creative team, including showrunner Bruce Helford and the same writing staff, and crew would return for whatever the new incarnation is." Deadline, meanwhile, says following the weekend meeting with Werner, Roseanne producers and ABC executives are scheduled to have a "creative meeting" tonight (https://deadline.com/2018/06/roseanne-update-small-progress-spinoff-followup-series-abc-1202403495/) to pitch ideas for a new series.

ALSO:

Roseanne revival's biggest flaw was finding inspiration in the Hillbilly Elegy version of the white working class (https://www.salon.com/2018/06/02/the-roseanne-revival-we-really-needed-is-the-one-theyd-never-make/)
Roseanne Barr's Twitter followers jumped more than 35% after Roseanne cancelation (https://www.thewrap.com/roseanne-barr-twitter-followers-jump-more-than-35-percent-after-show-cancellation/)

Roseanne Barr posts a cryptic tweet amid talks of ABC spinning off Roseanne without her (http://ew.com/tv/2018/06/05/roseanne-barr-future-of-abc-comedy/)
"I'm making restitution for the pain I have caused," she tweeted late this morning.

Report: ABC heard a Darlene-centered Roseanne spinoff pitch, but it wouldn't be ready by September (https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/roseanne-abc-sara-gilbert-1202833524/)
Sara Gilbert and fellow producers Tom Werner and Bruce Helford met on Monday with ABC Entertainment president Channing Dungey to discuss a potential spinoff focusing on Darlene Conner, according to Variety. While things are looking optimistic, ABC still hast yet to resolve several hurdles, including how the network could proceed without Roseanne Barr benefitting financially. There is also the question of when it would launch. The earliest, according to Variety, is November. "Working in the spinoff’s favor," says Variety, "is the belief that curiosity would drive large audiences to the show’s premiere in much the same way that the Roseanne debut benefited from questions over whether and how Barr’s support for President Donald Trump would manifest itself onscreen."

ALSO:

Why a Roseanne spinoff without Roseanne Barr is inevitable (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/television/article-why-a-roseanne-free-roseanne-spinoff-is-inevitable/)
Tom Arnold says President Trump "Billy Bush'd" Roseanne Barr after Roseanne cancelation (https://twitter.com/RichEisenShow/status/1004105583497134081)

I actually liked the supporting cast better than I like Roseanne.

Sara Gilbert and John Goodman would be a great job with a new show.

Hope ABC tries this idea!

At this point I'm just over the reboot. A Roseanneless spinoff is a bad idea. Just leave it be and forget all this mess ever happened.

Let's just all forget that the Roseanne reboot never even happened in the first place.

I actually liked the supporting cast better than I like Roseanne.

Sara Gilbert and John Goodman would be a great job with a new show.

Hope ABC tries this idea!

I hope so, too. I wonder how Roseanne would be written off, though.

I hope so, too. I wonder how Roseanne would be written off, though.
She'll die the same non-death Dan did in season 9.

At this point I'm just over the reboot. A Roseanneless spinoff is a bad idea. Just leave it be and forget all this mess ever happened.
I agree. They're trying to compare it to Valerie Harper and it's not the same thing. The Hogan family was just on the air for a year and a half when they killed her off and the show had just as much episodes if not more about the kids. Roseanne's comedy came from Roseanne and how she delt with her family. Not the same thing. Plus people have watched her in syndication for decades. There's a lot more history of show's flopping when they replace a major star than succeeding. I do agree that to have any chance John Goodman has to be involved in it. He's the best one of the supporting cast.

She'll die the same non-death Dan did in season 9.

They'll probably just kill her, but they really should say the character was sent to a mental hospital for psychological help.

They'll probably just kill her, but they really should say the character was sent to a mental hospital for psychological help.

:lol:

I think what they will actually do is have the show set in Darlene's new house/apartment, with Dan and Jackie coming over, with Roseanne not coming over, due to her recent knee surgery.

Does anyone find this idea stupid to give the show to Sara Gilbert? Sara Gilbert's acting skills are probably the weakest of all the actors, and yet they're going to have her be the main star, over Emmy awarding winner actress, Laurie Metcalfe, and Golden Globe winnng actor, John Goodman?

Wanda Sykes won't return for a Roseanne-less Roseanne spinoff, says Barr turned into "crazy people" (https://www.ajc.com/blog/radiotvtalk/wanda-sykes-won-work-roseanne-show-minus-roseanne-think-going-move/Zk7pofi6qgMaAZJfJrNNkN/)

“It’s crazy when you deal with people. They’re one way to your face and then on social media, they turn into crazy people,” Sykes told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution on Friday, in her first comments since tweeting (https://twitter.com/iamwandasykes/status/1001494592649342979) she was quitting Roseanne as a consulting producer hours after Roseanne Barr's racist tweet. “They type in words and not realize there are faces on the other end of these things... The majority of stuff people write on Twitter they’d never do to someone’s face. For me, if I have something to say, I’ll say it to your face absolutely!” Barr has implied (https://twitter.com/iamwandasykes/status/1001494592649342979) that Sykes' tweet led ABC to quickly cancel her show. “It wasn’t my tweet that put any pressure on ABC," said Sykes. "It was her Tweet! All I said was I wasn’t coming back.” While Sykes says Roseanne's cancelation was a "shame," she wouldn't be up for a potential spinoff without Barr. “I think I’m going to move on,” she said.

ABC is said to be optimistic about a Roseanne spinoff, but there are legal questions over Roseanne Barr's creative credit (https://deadline.com/2018/06/roseanne-spinoff-update-both-hopeful-about-decision-time-nears-abc-1202408413/)
ABC is trying to figure out if Barr would have a creative and ownership stake of a spinoff that doesn't include the character Roseanne Conner, explains Deadline's Nellie Andreeva. "If she was creator or co-creator of the mothership series, that is pretty unavoidable, but her specific credit could make it possible," says Andreeva. "The opening credits for the revival (which mirror those for the original series, read: Roseanne is created by Matt Williams, based on a character created by Roseanne Barr. If Williams is considered the sole creator of the series, with Barr only credited for originating the character that became Roseanne Conner, if a follow-up series does not feature Roseanne Conner, one could make an argument that Barr is not entitled to profits. However, things are not that simple — after all Roseanne, the series, exists because of the character created by Barr. The complexity of the issue explains the prolonged legal review and delayed pickup decision. The case has to be iron-clad as a new series without Barr would likely trigger a lawsuit by the comedian."

Report: Roseanne Barr may forego profits from potential Roseanne spinoff to allow it to proceed (https://pagesix.com/2018/06/12/roseanne-seriously-considering-forgoing-profits-from-potential-spinoff/)
ABC reportedly has been trying to figure out a way to proceed with the spinoff without Barr (https://deadline.com/2018/06/roseanne-spinoff-update-both-hopeful-about-decision-time-nears-abc-1202408413/) having a creative credit or ownership participation. ABC tried to settle the matter with Barr over the weekend, according to Deadline. Now Page Six is reporting that Barr is "seriously considering" dropping any connection to the potential spinoff. “Roseanne feels so bad about her antics she is trying to figure out a way to help people harmed by the cancellation," a source close to Barr tells Page Six. "She’s considering giving up financial and creative participation in a spinoff so the people she loves can have jobs. Barr holding on is a stumbling block.”

Guess they can kill Roseann off on her knee surgery

Guess they can kill Roseann off on her knee surgery

They could, but wouldn't that be somber first season?

Better just to not mention her, and have the action take place in another house, with Dan and Jackie coming over to the house regularly, with Roseanne presumably unable to come over, due to knee issues and recuperation.

Report: Roseanne Barr could soon sign an agreement cutting her off from a proposed Roseanne spinoff (https://deadline.com/2018/06/roseanne-spinoff-update-optimism-deal-abc-title-roseanne-barr-agreement-1202411838/)

It looks like ABC's demand that Barr have no creative or financial involvement in a Roseanne spinoff is about to be met. "I hear Barr is expected to sign an agreement that would remove her from the potential spinoff and prevent her from suing over it," reports Deadline's Nellie Andreeva. "Terms of the agreements are unclear but it may involve a one-time payment from production company Carsey-Werner to Barr in exchange of her relinquishing any rights so she won’t be entitled to any profits from the spinoff." She adds that ABC is likely to proceed with the spinoff once confirmation of Barr's non-involvement has been met. "I hear, barring any last-minute change of mind by Barr — which would not be completely out of character — her agreement is expected to be signed soon," says Andreeva, adding: "I hear ABC has seven days after that to make a decision on a pickup." Andreeva also reports that ABC is leaning toward using The Conners as the spinoff title, emphasizing the family and its connection with the Roseanne series. The title Darlene was also under consideration because of the focus on Sara Gilbert's character. Meanwhile, Roseanne Barr appeared ready to "move on" and possibly sign the agreement, judging by a tweet this morning. "I forgive everyone who hurt me," she tweeted. "I forgive as fast as I can everyday. That is why I am able to live free. I want the best for everyone-I want no more racism or anti semitism or classism. I want peace! Let's all move on & help FREEDOM!"

I hope so, too. I wonder how Roseanne would be written off, though.


Like they always do with witches, they'll drop a house on her. LOL.

Ed.

Does anyone find this idea stupid to give the show to Sara Gilbert? Sara Gilbert's acting skills are probably the weakest of all the actors, and yet they're going to have her be the main star, over Emmy awarding winner actress, Laurie Metcalfe, and Golden Globe winnng actor, John Goodman?

Them wanting to build the show around Sara Gilbert tells me they will make the show very political, which is mistake. The most amount of viewers they'll ever get will tune in for the first episode of "The Conners", so there's no reason to alienate viewers with political jokes.