View Full Version : Which shows have been cancelled due to the star's bad behavior


TMC
05-31-2018, 03:32 AM
It's not unprecedented for the star to be fired and the show continued on. There's Valerie Harper with Valerie (later The Hogan Family), Charlie Sheen on Two and a Half Men, and more recently, Clayne Crawford on Lethal Weapon.

But how about when a show is outright canceled because the star did something that was inappropriate. I'm obviously bringing this up in light of the revival of Roseanne being pulled off the air due to Roseanne Barr's offensive comments on Twitter. Bare in mind that I'm not talking about news programs or talk shows, just scripted shows. Therefore, I'm not counting Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher, Countdown with Keith Olbermann, or The O'Reilly Factor with Bill O'Reilly.

Before Roseanne, the one show that immediately came to mind was Grace Under Fire 20 years prior. ABC simply put, got fed up with Brett Butler's behavior on set (she simply became unreliable, egotistical, and erratic) and pulled the plug about half way into the season.

Another show that immediately comes to mind that came to an end due to the star's behavior was TNT's Witchblade. If I remember correctly, Yancy Butler had to go to rehab for substance abuse and the show never resumed production.

The proverbial straw that broke the camel's back for What's Happening!! back in 1979 was when Fred Berry called the producers racists. The network and producers retorted that since he (Fred Berry was already causing trouble with his ego and drug problems) didn't like working for "racists", they were going to cancel the show after three years.

Yong Fang
05-31-2018, 06:59 AM
One could argue The Smothers Brothers original 1967-1969 show, was an example of a network (CBS) getting tired of a show and the demands of the performers and just axing it as more trouble than was its worth.

I just saw this last night called Smothered about the Brothers battle, and especially Tommy against censorship and the standards and practices of CBS.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xnnmcP6FkWk

I personally think that Tommy Smothers was a jerk who got a big head, and really ruined a hip, cool show with way too much left wing politics. He also very publically complained in the press and on his own show about how unfair CBS is treating them. If Tommy just would have chilled out a bit, his show probably would have stayed on a few more years.

Yong Fang
05-31-2018, 06:59 AM
One could argue The Smothers Brothers original 1967-1969 show, was an example of a network (CBS) getting tired of a show and the demands of the performers and just axing it as more trouble than was its worth.

I just saw this last night called Smothered about the Brothers battle, and especially Tommy against censorship and the standards and practices of CBS.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xnnmcP6FkWk

I personally think that Tommy Smothers was a jerk who got a big head, and really ruined a hip, cool show with way too much left wing politics. He also very publically complained in the press and on his own show about how unfair CBS is treating them. If Tommy just would have chilled out a bit, his show probably would have stayed on a few more years.

tlc38tlc38
05-31-2018, 08:23 AM
Grace Under Fire: although it probably would've ended after 5 seasons anyway

JamesG
05-31-2018, 11:56 AM
I don't know if you can count FX's "Louie" since the show was on hiatus before Louis C.K.'s scandal broke out. Before that C.K. and FX said they were "unsure" about bringing it back.

They definitely won't be bringing it back now.



Also, Netflix fired Kevin Spacey from "House of Cards" after his scandal came out and they announced its final season shortly after.

Same for Jeffrey Tambor on Amazon's "Transparent".

Chocolate Moose
05-31-2018, 12:05 PM
It's not unprecedented for the star to be fired and the show continued on. There's Valerie Harper with Valerie.


I don't remember this ... What did she do?

RetroGuy2000
06-01-2018, 12:05 AM
I don't remember this ... What did she do?

She feuded with the producers, so they killed off her character. I don't remember if she died painfully in a fire, or died painfully in an auto accident, but suffice to say, the remaining characters didn't bemoan her loss for very long. They brought in Aunt Sandy Duncan, changed the name to The Hogan Family, and soon Valerie wasn't even a memory.

RetroGuy2000
06-01-2018, 12:16 AM
She wasn't really the "star" (though I think she thought she was), but Susanne Somers' behavior on Three's Company is a good example of the show going on without the misbehaving actor/actress.

tenter
06-01-2018, 12:33 AM
I'm not sure if this fits into this thread.. but Sam and Cat cancelled 4 years ago due to rumors that main stars feuding each other, sometimes showing rehearsals late, due to some personal issues.

Also on last season (season 4) Nicky Ricky Dicky and Dawn, character Dicky played by Mace Coronel left the show due to issues and drama on the set midway of season 4, and was replaced by foreign exchange character.

treky
06-01-2018, 01:17 AM
I'm not sure if this fits into this thread.. but Sam and Cat cancelled 4 years ago due to rumors that main stars feuding each other, sometimes showing rehearsals late, due to some personal issues.

Also on last season (season 4) Nicky Ricky Dicky and Dawn, character Dicky played by Mace Coronel left the show due to issues and drama on the set midway of season 4, and was replaced by foreign exchange character.
never heard of either show.

JamesG
06-01-2018, 04:57 AM
I don't know how much the scandal had to do with the show not coming back since it didn't get great ratings, but Jeremy Piven had a sex scandal during "Wisdom of the Crowd's" run.

tenter
06-01-2018, 08:48 AM
never heard of either show.
Both are Nickelodeon shows

70s show watcher
06-01-2018, 05:27 PM
the client list was cancelled mainly because jennifer love hewiett tried to pull the same power play with that shows producers that she pulled on the set of ghost whisperer except this time it backfired on her and the producers canned both her and the show

Torgo
06-01-2018, 05:47 PM
She feuded with the producers, so they killed off her character. I don't remember if she died painfully in a fire, or died painfully in an auto accident, but suffice to say, the remaining characters didn't bemoan her loss for very long. They brought in Aunt Sandy Duncan, changed the name to The Hogan Family, and soon Valerie wasn't even a memory.

Car accident.

RetroGuy2000
06-01-2018, 10:04 PM
Car accident.
Thanks. It's been years since I saw the episodes in question. I remember there being a fire episode and a car accident episode, and couldn't remember which was which.

JamesG
06-03-2018, 06:53 PM
I always thought that "Pee Wee's Playhouse" was canceled due to Paul Reuben's infamous "movie theater incident", but after looking into it I found out that it had been canceled before that.

The Saturday morning reruns were pulled after the incident happened.

loaferman
06-07-2018, 01:22 PM
I have not watched the show, but I read that the leads on the "Lethal Weapon" TV series are going to be replaced for next season due to them being difficult on the set. Not exactly a cancellation but I wonder how many other shows recast the lead and are successful.

icecream
06-07-2018, 06:04 PM
I have not watched the show, but I read that the leads on the "Lethal Weapon" TV series are going to be replaced for next season due to them being difficult on the set. Not exactly a cancellation but I wonder how many other shows recast the lead and are successful.Daman Wayans is remaining a lead next season. Clayne Crawford was recast.

TMC
06-09-2018, 04:37 AM
Daman Wayans is remaining a lead next season. Clayne Crawford was recast.

Nine TV shows that went on without a key performer (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.arts.tv/V8oCwzVf8K8)

factsoflife
06-09-2018, 01:57 PM
She feuded with the producers, so they killed off her character. I don't remember if she died painfully in a fire, or died painfully in an auto accident, but suffice to say, the remaining characters didn't bemoan her loss for very long. They brought in Aunt Sandy Duncan, changed the name to The Hogan Family, and soon Valerie wasn't even a memory.


She was killed off-screen in a car accident. I remember this because I recall watching the episode and finding the wording they used odd; they said "automobile accident" instead of "car accident" which I found an odd choice of words; even if it is accurate.

RetroGuy2000
06-09-2018, 02:12 PM
She was killed off-screen in a car accident. I remember this because I recall watching the episode and finding the wording they used odd; they said "automobile accident" instead of "car accident" which I found an odd choice of words; even if it is accurate.

Thanks. Torgo reminded me, too. I couldn't remember which one it was, likely because there had also been a fire episode around that time.

TMC
06-13-2018, 04:33 AM
I always thought that "Pee Wee's Playhouse" was canceled due to Paul Reuben's infamous "movie theater incident", but after looking into it I found out that it had been canceled before that.

The Saturday morning reruns were pulled after the incident happened.

The movie theater incident undoubtedly killed that show's syndication value for the longest time. I do recall Fox Family Channel (now Freeform) airing Pee-Wee's Playhouse for a time in the early morning hours. And I'm almost certain that Pee-Wee's Playhouse was also briefly on Adult Swim for a few weeks several years back.

TMC
06-13-2018, 04:44 AM
Does Cybill (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.datalounge.com/thread/16868987-cybil&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwihuKKhn9DbAhVQXq0KHfqsAQM4ChAWCAUwAA&client=internal-uds-cse&cx=012934500974320822133:_voyjogdwma&usg=AOvVaw0GSz1FDk7mpJZRk7U-xfyq) count as another show (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.datalounge.com/thread/19266998-cybill-the-tv-show&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwihuKKhn9DbAhVQXq0KHfqsAQM4ChAWCBkwCA&client=internal-uds-cse&cx=012934500974320822133:_voyjogdwma&usg=AOvVaw1wWl3f1fr7tMiMqjcaUCoG) that was out and out canceled due to the star's bad behavior? While it was never a huge ratings success, it still did respectable numbers over the four years that it was on the air. According to Cybill Shepherd, CBS was uncomfortable with her feminist leanings and frank depiction of female sexuality.

I've always heard rumors (even dating back to her Moonlighting (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.datalounge.com/thread/12606493-moonlighting&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwihuKKhn9DbAhVQXq0KHfqsAQM4ChAWCBYwBw&client=internal-uds-cse&cx=012934500974320822133:_voyjogdwma&usg=AOvVaw1_Lbgtq16-Z-xz9qeGs3DZ) days) that Cybill Shepherd was a major diva/egomaniac (https://moviechat.org/tt0111932/Cybill/58c75e8b6b51e905f67e73c1/Is-Shepherd-as-big-a-bitch-as-all-the-gossip-claims) behind the scenes. Like for instance, she was upset that Christine Baranski (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.datalounge.com/thread/9000615-the-cybill-shepherd-christine-baranski-feud&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwihuKKhn9DbAhVQXq0KHfqsAQM4ChAWCBQwBg&client=internal-uds-cse&cx=012934500974320822133:_voyjogdwma&usg=AOvVaw0eSRlEkNHfkwqN8jKMID_Q) won an Emmy for the show before she did.

Babalu
06-13-2018, 06:00 AM
Does Cybill count as another that was out and out canceled due to the star's bad behavior? While it was never a huge ratings success, it still did respectable numbers over the four years that it was on the air. According to Cybill Shepherd, CBS was uncomfortable with her feminist leanings and frank depiction of female sexuality.

I of course never watched the show so I don't know what the sexual content was but there is no snowball's chance in hell that CBS or any other insanely liberal mainstream network would be uncomfortable with feminism. To Hollywood, on screen male bashing equals comedy.

RetroGuy2000
06-13-2018, 06:35 AM
Does Cybill (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.datalounge.com/thread/16868987-cybil&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwihuKKhn9DbAhVQXq0KHfqsAQM4ChAWCAUwAA&client=internal-uds-cse&cx=012934500974320822133:_voyjogdwma&usg=AOvVaw0GSz1FDk7mpJZRk7U-xfyq) count as another show (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.datalounge.com/thread/19266998-cybill-the-tv-show&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwihuKKhn9DbAhVQXq0KHfqsAQM4ChAWCBkwCA&client=internal-uds-cse&cx=012934500974320822133:_voyjogdwma&usg=AOvVaw1wWl3f1fr7tMiMqjcaUCoG) that was out and out canceled due to the star's bad behavior? While it was never a huge ratings success, it still did respectable numbers over the four years that it was on the air. According to Cybill Shepherd, CBS was uncomfortable with her feminist leanings and frank depiction of female sexuality.

I've always heard rumors (even dating back to her Moonlighting (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.datalounge.com/thread/12606493-moonlighting&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwihuKKhn9DbAhVQXq0KHfqsAQM4ChAWCBYwBw&client=internal-uds-cse&cx=012934500974320822133:_voyjogdwma&usg=AOvVaw1_Lbgtq16-Z-xz9qeGs3DZ) days) that Cybill Shepherd was a major diva/egomaniac (https://moviechat.org/tt0111932/Cybill/58c75e8b6b51e905f67e73c1/Is-Shepherd-as-big-a-bitch-as-all-the-gossip-claims) behind the scenes. Like for instance, she was upset that Christine Baranski (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.datalounge.com/thread/9000615-the-cybill-shepherd-christine-baranski-feud&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwihuKKhn9DbAhVQXq0KHfqsAQM4ChAWCBQwBg&client=internal-uds-cse&cx=012934500974320822133:_voyjogdwma&usg=AOvVaw0eSRlEkNHfkwqN8jKMID_Q) won an Emmy for the show before she did.

Thanks for those links. Cybill Shepherd has had problems with every show she's been on: she didn't like the producers, couldn't get along with her co-stars or was a nightmare to the crew. When an actor has problems in every job he or she has, it's clear where the problem lies.

loaferman
06-13-2018, 03:14 PM
Thanks for those links. Cybill Shepherd has had problems with every show she's been on: she didn't like the producers, couldn't get along with her co-stars or was a nightmare to the crew. When an actor has problems in every job he or she has, it's clear where the problem lies.

I really enjoyed "Moonlighting" but apparently between Cybill and Bruce they had a great deal of trouble getting a new episode made. They finally started using episodes featuring the supporting cast. It seemed like at times it would go about a month between new episodes.

RetroGuy2000
06-13-2018, 04:56 PM
I really enjoyed "Moonlighting" but apparently between Cybill and Bruce they had a great deal of trouble getting a new episode made. They finally started using episodes featuring the supporting cast. It seemed like at times it would go about a month between new episodes.

I remember the very short seasons. Looking it up, I see now that there were very few episodes per season: they only produced 66 episodes over 5 years. And having to resort to using the supporting cast to get episodes produced... haha, I wasn't aware of that! :lol:

I also remember all the rumors of feuds between the two stars, which were public knowledge way back in the 1980s. One would think that if you had a reputation for being "difficult", you'd try to tone down the cast squabbles on later shows, but Cybill never has.

TMC
06-13-2018, 07:30 PM
I can't believe that I left out The Wonder Years and Fred Savage (http://www.looper.com/125867/why-fred-savage-cant-get-cast-in-hollywood-anymore/):
A scandal dating to Fred Savage's*Wonder Years*years may also have prevented others from wanting to work with him. In 2018, Star (via RadarOnline (https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2018/01/wonder-years-actor-fred-savage-sued-lawsuit-sexual-misconduct-claims/)) uncovered a lawsuit filed in 1993 by a Wonder Years costumer named Monique Long, who alleged that when she worked on the show in 1992, Savage, 16 at the time, tried to touch her inappropriately, relentlessly asked her out, and made multiple comments of a sexual nature, including begging her to sleep with him. Long says she sought assistance from Dan Lauria, Savage's TV dad, whom she claims told her to actually go for it — to be Savage's "first," as it were, even though that would be illegal (Long was 32 at the time).*

Long ultimately accepted an out-of-court settlement, but Alley Mills (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/wonder-years-mom-alley-mills-show-canceled-due-ridiculous-fred-savage-harassment-lawsuit-194709096.html), Savage's TV mom on The Wonder Years, later claimed that the reason The Wonder Years was canceled in 1993 was because of that suit. "They wanted to avoid a scandal or something, but it made them look guilty," Mills told Yahoo! in 2018. "You know, you don't pay someone off when there was no crime, you just fire the girl."

Read More: http://www.looper.com/125867/why-fred-savage-cant-get-cast-in-hollywood-anymore/?utm_campaign=clip

TMC
06-27-2018, 08:49 PM
Bella Thorne vents at Freeform after reading on Twitter that the cable net is canceling Famous in Love after two seasons (http://www.tvguide.com/news/famous-in-love-canceled-after-2-seasons/)

"If this is how I find out our show is canceled..I’m going to be so upset," Thorne tweeted. "Very hurtful freeform. I woulda liked a phone call maybe." According to The Hollywood Reporter's Lesley Goldberg, Freeform wanted more money from Hulu to pay for the "expensive series." Goldberg further reports that the cancelation was a relief (https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/famous-in-love-cancelled-because-bellas-a-b-tch.1670453/) for the show's production because Thorne, with her on-set "diva-like behavior," often clashed with showrunner I. Marlene King (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/famous-love-canceled-2-seasons-freeform-1123477), adding: "Sources note Thorne actively wanted off of Famous in Love, with the actress and social media star having refused to participate in Freeform-organized live-tweets during its second season." UPDATE: Showrunner I. Marlene King denied Famous in Love was canceled and denied having a feud with Bella Thorne (https://deadline.com/2018/06/famous-in-love-renwed-canceled-freeform-marlene-king-season-3-1202417818/): "FACT: The ENTIRE @FamousInLoveTV cast and crew are crossing our fingers and toes as we light candles for a S3 pickup. #Raige On!," King tweeted, adding in another tweet: "Despite what may be out there I am not in a feud w @bellathorne. We have, and have always had, a friendly and professional relationship."

TMC
08-27-2018, 03:47 AM
CBS canceled (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=12291.0) Lou Grant over Ed Asner's position on El Salvador.

https://www.nytimes.com/1982/02/23/movies/heston-awaits-asner-s-reaction-to-protest.html

Schmo
07-01-2019, 12:09 PM
I really enjoyed "Moonlighting" but apparently between Cybill and Bruce they had a great deal of trouble getting a new episode made. They finally started using episodes featuring the supporting cast. It seemed like at times it would go about a month between new episodes.

And after the film Die Hard became a huge success, Bruce wanted to concentrate on his movie career.

factsoflife
07-01-2019, 12:54 PM
Does Cybill (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.datalounge.com/thread/16868987-cybil&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwihuKKhn9DbAhVQXq0KHfqsAQM4ChAWCAUwAA&client=internal-uds-cse&cx=012934500974320822133:_voyjogdwma&usg=AOvVaw0GSz1FDk7mpJZRk7U-xfyq) count as another show (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.datalounge.com/thread/19266998-cybill-the-tv-show&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwihuKKhn9DbAhVQXq0KHfqsAQM4ChAWCBkwCA&client=internal-uds-cse&cx=012934500974320822133:_voyjogdwma&usg=AOvVaw1wWl3f1fr7tMiMqjcaUCoG) that was out and out canceled due to the star's bad behavior? While it was never a huge ratings success, it still did respectable numbers over the four years that it was on the air. According to Cybill Shepherd, CBS was uncomfortable with her feminist leanings and frank depiction of female sexuality.

I've always heard rumors (even dating back to her Moonlighting (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.datalounge.com/thread/12606493-moonlighting&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwihuKKhn9DbAhVQXq0KHfqsAQM4ChAWCBYwBw&client=internal-uds-cse&cx=012934500974320822133:_voyjogdwma&usg=AOvVaw1_Lbgtq16-Z-xz9qeGs3DZ) days) that Cybill Shepherd was a major diva/egomaniac (https://moviechat.org/tt0111932/Cybill/58c75e8b6b51e905f67e73c1/Is-Shepherd-as-big-a-bitch-as-all-the-gossip-claims) behind the scenes. Like for instance, she was upset that Christine Baranski (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.datalounge.com/thread/9000615-the-cybill-shepherd-christine-baranski-feud&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwihuKKhn9DbAhVQXq0KHfqsAQM4ChAWCBQwBg&client=internal-uds-cse&cx=012934500974320822133:_voyjogdwma&usg=AOvVaw0eSRlEkNHfkwqN8jKMID_Q) won an Emmy for the show before she did.


Cybill (the sitcom) was cancelled through no fault of Cybill Shepherd or it's writing. It was canned because Shepherd turned down Les Moonves inappropriate advances and he cancelled it as revenge.

Given what we now know about Moonves, this is hardly a surprising piece of news. Shepherd has confirmed this as being why her show was yanked off the air despite garnering solid ratings.

factsoflife
07-01-2019, 12:57 PM
I remember the very short seasons. Looking it up, I see now that there were very few episodes per season: they only produced 66 episodes over 5 years. And having to resort to using the supporting cast to get episodes produced... haha, I wasn't aware of that! :lol:

I also remember all the rumors of feuds between the two stars, which were public knowledge way back in the 1980s. One would think that if you had a reputation for being "difficult", you'd try to tone down the cast squabbles on later shows, but Cybill never has.


The "Moonlighting" situation was a bit more bit complex than just Cybill and Bruce not getting along. The showrunner Glenn Gordon Caron also reportedly had a difficult time writing the episodes and getting them produced fast enough. He would reportedly constantly rewrite each episode; often changing the entire script at the last minute, causing massive delays and often resulting in reruns airing when a new episode couldn't be produced in time. Often costing the studio and network more money than it should have and causing production to run long into the night.

This added to the already tense situation between Bruce and Cybill.

But the final nail in the coffin was when Maddie and David slept together and ratings plummeted downward.

megamanj2004
07-01-2019, 07:15 PM
What's Happening!! - was canned because of Fred "Rerun" Berry's continued demands of asking for money and walking out. Ernest Thomas eventually followed him again. When WH!! came back as What's Happening Now!! and Fred "Rerun" Berry tried to pull that same power play card on the producers again, he was shown the door after the 1st season.

Grace Under Fire - No doubt! Because of what she did on this show, Brett Butler has never been trusted to headline another regular series of her again since.

Roseanne (the revival) - Enough said!

Too2muchtv
07-02-2019, 01:12 PM
Empire, Jessie Smollet.

favoriteshow
07-02-2019, 09:02 PM
She feuded with the producers, so they killed off her character. I don't remember if she died painfully in a fire, or died painfully in an auto accident, but suffice to say, the remaining characters didn't bemoan her loss for very long. They brought in Aunt Sandy Duncan, changed the name to The Hogan Family, and soon Valerie wasn't even a memory.

This stemmed from a salary/pay dispute, not a bad behavior issue. If she had got her salary request or a compromise met, creative differences in the show's direction would be easily settled.

She ultimately won her case against Lorimar.

jehobden
08-31-2019, 02:26 AM
She feuded with the producers, so they killed off her character. I don't remember if she died painfully in a fire, or died painfully in an auto accident, but suffice to say, the remaining characters didn't bemoan her loss for very long. They brought in Aunt Sandy Duncan, changed the name to The Hogan Family, and soon Valerie wasn't even a memory.

Valerie Hogan died in an auto accident just a few months prior to the time of the season premiere. A few episodes after the season premier, the Hogan's house burned down, so that's probably where you heard about the fire.

hawkeye123
08-31-2019, 02:36 AM
I never knew that about Grace Under Fire.

Coffeecup
09-04-2019, 12:01 PM
I never read or heard about Fred Savage's alleged story. Oh my. I watched him on a game show that he hosted, Child Support and he seemed like a nice man. Hollywood life must be a usual way to live.

PracTz
03-24-2022, 07:52 PM
I can't believe that I left out The Wonder Years and Fred Savage (http://www.looper.com/125867/why-fred-savage-cant-get-cast-in-hollywood-anymore/):

I never heard of that either! When he did his 'Boy Meets World' guest shot on his kid bro Ben's show, I thought him playing a professor trying to coerce Topanga (and it seemed other co-eds) to sleep with him to up their grades was a case of casting against type but I wonder if it's possible that the latter show's showrunners may have actually heard of the scandal on his previous show? If so, did they read him the Riot Act and tell him he'd better treat ALL female cast members and offcamera employees like plutonium if he wanted to have even THIS role considering how he seemed to have blown his own starring role?!

Maybe that's why he's now directing and pitching Goldfish with his kid bro nowadays.

TMC
03-25-2022, 03:11 AM
I never read or heard about Fred Savage's alleged story. Oh my. I watched him on a game show that he hosted, Child Support and he seemed like a nice man. Hollywood life must be a usual way to live.

I hate to suggest that "where's there's smoke, there's fire" but Fred Savage later did this show with Rob Lowe for Fox called The Grinder. And a female crew member for that show (https://www.vulture.com/2018/03/fred-savage-accused-of-physical-harassment-on-grinder-set.html) accused him (https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/fred-savage-and-fox-getting-sued-for-harassment-assault-discrimination.1496911/) of attacking (https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/21/entertainment/fred-savage-harassment/index.html) and harassing (https://www.indiewire.com/2018/03/fred-savage-accused-harassment-grinder-crew-1201942283/) her. In fairness to Fred, the suit was eventually dismissed (https://pagesix.com/2019/04/24/fred-savage-and-accuser-settle-harassment-lawsuit-out-of-court/).

TMC
03-25-2022, 03:18 AM
I never heard of that either! When he did his 'Boy Meets World' guest shot on his kid bro Ben's show, I thought him playing a professor trying to coerce Topanga (and it seemed other co-eds) to sleep with him to up their grades was a case of casting against type but I wonder if it's possible that the latter show's showrunners may have actually heard of the scandal on his previous show? If so, did they read him the Riot Act and tell him he'd better treat ALL female cast members and offcamera employees like plutonium if he wanted to have even THIS role considering how he seemed to have blown his own starring role?!

Maybe that's why he's now directing and pitching Goldfish with his kid bro nowadays.

I remember Fred Savage did this made for TV movie (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/NoOneWouldTell) for NBC back in 1996 called No One Would Tell (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_One_Would_Tell), where he plays Candace Cameron's abusive boyfriend (https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Bobby_Tennison#:~:text=Robert%20%22Bobby%22%20Tennison%20is%20the,was%20portrayed%20by%20Fred%20Savage.). I guess the best way to explain it would be to call it a Lifetime (https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/no-one-would-tell-fred-savage-candace-cameron.2888153/) variation (https://yourdream.liveyourdream.org/2019/11/no-one-would-tell-the-amy-carnevale-story/) of that movie Fear but with Kevin Arnold and DJ Tanner instead of Mark Wahlberg and Reese Witherspoon.

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TMC
03-26-2022, 01:35 AM
Since it was recently mentioned in another thread (https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showpost.php?p=6032258&postcount=4), Car 54, Where Are You? being dropped after only two seasons (https://jacksonupperco.com/2020/09/08/the-ten-best-car-54-where-are-you-episodes-of-season-two/) due in no small part (https://m.facebook.com/groups/79132544765?view=permalink&id=10159101791814766) to Joe E. Ross (https://billyingram.blogspot.com/2013/06/oooh-oooh-weird-life-death-of-joe-e-ross.html).

icecream
03-26-2022, 08:51 AM
It is a good thing Car 54 was cancelled when it was. Otherwise we might have never gotten the brilliance of The Munsters.

icecream
04-11-2022, 02:03 PM
This is just speculation, but was Geena Davis a horrible person to get along with? Commander in Chief was a strong hit its first several months as ABC's Tuesday anchor. But it had at least three showrunners in only one season. ABC moved Commander in Chief against the Thursday wolves of Without a Trace and ER, then after just a few weeks there it was relegated to summer burn-off with not even a full 22 episode season. The Geena Davis Show was also cancelled after one season on ABC. Ratings were not strong on that one, but it still did better than timeslot replacement What About Joan? which somehow pulled off a season 2 renewal.

Chocolate Moose
04-11-2022, 03:23 PM
I never knew that about Grace Under Fire.

it's pretty common knowledge

rusty spike
04-11-2022, 03:27 PM
It's rumored that Lassie was biting cats and chasing squirrels when the show ended in 1973.

stevea
04-11-2022, 06:19 PM
I never knew that about Grace Under Fire.

An almost three-year-old post, but here's the story on Grace Under Fire--it started with Butler's behavior in front of the 12-year-old-actor--

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Paul_Steuer#Acting

He committed suicide on New Year's Day, 2018 at age 33.

TMC
04-11-2022, 10:31 PM
CBS cancelled (https://www.imdb.com/review/rw2119190/?ref_=tt_urv) Airwolf (https://www.get.tv/gettv-blog/airwolf-10-facts-about-1980s-series-starring-jan-michael-vincent-and-ernest-borgnine) after three seasons in 1986 at least partially, due (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166030/trivia) to Jan-Michael Vincent (https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:8hvjMpGNYY4J:https://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-jan-michael-vincent-20190308-story.html+&cd=12&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)'s severe alcohol problems (http://athpod.com/2019/05/10/airwolf-35-years-on/).

TMC
05-07-2022, 05:40 AM
I never heard of that either! When he did his 'Boy Meets World' guest shot on his kid bro Ben's show, I thought him playing a professor trying to coerce Topanga (and it seemed other co-eds) to sleep with him to up their grades was a case of casting against type but I wonder if it's possible that the latter show's showrunners may have actually heard of the scandal on his previous show? If so, did they read him the Riot Act and tell him he'd better treat ALL female cast members and offcamera employees like plutonium if he wanted to have even THIS role considering how he seemed to have blown his own starring role?!

Maybe that's why he's now directing and pitching Goldfish with his kid bro nowadays.

It has just gotten even worse (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10791653/Fred-Savage-FIRED-Wonder-Years-following-investigation-inappropriate-conduct-set.html) for Fred Savage!

TMC
12-28-2022, 09:43 PM
I just stumbled upon an all too similar discussion (https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/zxklbt/successful_tv_shows_that_got_cancelled_because_of/) elsewhere to this one.

MikeLutton
12-28-2022, 10:03 PM
i clicked on that it asked for my password i quickly clicked off be carefull