Recently, the Golden State Killer and the killer of Jay Cook and Tanya Van Cuylenborg have been arrested thanks to forensic genealogy. The investigators uploaded the killer's DNA to a genealogical website, GEDMatch. They then created family trees based on relatives, which led them to the suspects. Similar methods were also used to identify Jane/John Does, like Buckskin Girl and Lyle Stevik.

Which cases could be solved using forensic genealogy methods?

I think they should use this for the Orange Sock Murders case (Bobbi Oberholtzer and Annette Schnee). They have the presumed killer's DNA from blood on Bobbi's glove and tissues with her backpack.

They could also use these methods to identify the Sumter County Does.

My first thought was the unidentified dead, Little Miss Panasoffkee being the first one that came to mind. I think it's a wonderful possibility.

Did any other unknown killers leave their DNA at crime scenes?

Connecticut River Killer

I think we're going to see a lot more of these cases solved by DNA geneology in the next couple of years. I thought the East Area case was the least likeliest to be solved. Then bam.

What a great tool!

Didn't they just practically solve Jennifer Odom's murder using the same technique? A guy whose son was in the database for DUI was eyed as the source of the DNA at her crime scene.

I also wonder if the Sulphur police department collected any unknown DNA from the Ellender crime scene? They could use familial DNA and find the rest of those who killed Eric and Pam. Their murders have always bothered me.

My first thought was the unidentified dead, Little Miss Panasoffkee being the first one that came to mind. I think it's a wonderful possibility.

Has her DNA been collected? Also, has the torso of the young boy found in Canada which might be Clifford Sherwood or his friend Georges been located? If the boy proves to be neither, one possibility ruled out, but they might determine who the boy was. If the boy is Clifford, you can almost rule out his father Tex being involved unless Tex was the sort of horrible person who would murder his own son just to get back at his ex-wife. Both boys probably were either murdered by someone else or died accidentally. If the boy is Georges, though...for a long time I suspected Tex took both boys and whacked Georges, certainly to eliminate a witness and possibly to terrify Clifford into never telling. I always hoped, if he felt he had to kill Georges, that Tex took him away telling Clifford he was giving him a ride home. I always hoped Clifford was not traumatized by having to see his friend murdered and knowing his own father did it because of him! And maybe either died in misery or lived and is still living with the guilt!

Has her DNA been collected? Also, has the torso of the young boy found in Canada which might be Clifford Sherwood or his friend Georges been located? If the boy proves to be neither, one possibility ruled out, but they might determine who the boy was. If the boy is Clifford, you can almost rule out his father Tex being involved unless Tex was the sort of horrible person who would murder his own son just to get back at his ex-wife. Both boys probably were either murdered by someone else or died accidentally. If the boy is Georges, though...for a long time I suspected Tex took both boys and whacked Georges, certainly to eliminate a witness and possibly to terrify Clifford into never telling. I always hoped, if he felt he had to kill Georges, that Tex took him away telling Clifford he was giving him a ride home. I always hoped Clifford was not traumatized by having to see his friend murdered and knowing his own father did it because of him! And maybe either died in misery or lived and is still living with the guilt!

I'm pretty sure it was. I know they were doing isotope analysis on her remains, and it came back showing she was from somewhere near the Aegean, and it turned out there was some woman who came here from Greece who may have actually known her, and came to the States with her (along with some other women who were supposed to be maids and stuff). So I'm thinking they probably took DNA as well.

Totally forgot about the Sherwood case. I'm not sure about that. I hope that can be figured out, if it hasn't been, already...

The blobs :D

Any case where they have DNA of the killer could be solved this way. I bet after the GSK arrest and Tanya Van Cuylenborg news, lots of old murderers are a bit shaken right now.

Would be something if Zodiac is solved. I doubt it, though, because I don't believe they have a reliable DNA sample of him.

Any case where they have DNA of the killer could be solved this way. I bet after the GSK arrest and Tanya Van Cuylenborg news, lots of old murderers are a bit shaken right now.

Would be something if Zodiac is solved. I doubt it, though, because I don't believe they have a reliable DNA sample of him.

They could have pulled DNA from the torn piece of shirt that belonged to the last victim, Paul Stine

They could find the anonymous male from Wisconsin, and at LEAST solve the letter/phone call portion of Nyleen's case. That's assuming his DNA is on the envelope.

the letter/phone call portion of Nyleen's case. That's assuming his DNA is on the envelope.

I didn't even think of that one. That would be incredible. Find out who that sick f*** is/was and maybe even find out what happened to her.

They could have pulled DNA from the torn piece of shirt that belonged to the last victim, Paul Stine

He wrote letters too, right?

I think they should use this for the Orange Sock Murders case (Bobbi Oberholtzer and Annette Schnee). They have the presumed killer's DNA from blood on Bobbi's glove and tissues with her backpack.

:eek: I never thought of that. I hope they indeed test that blood now.

Jeff giving Bobbie that key ring may now be the difference in FINALLY getting this killer captured. Fingers crossed.

They could find the anonymous male from Wisconsin, and at LEAST solve the letter/phone call portion of Nyleen's case. That's assuming his DNA is on the envelope.

As much as it pains me, I think that's an extreme long shot.

The letter was handled by workers at Child Find of America, law enforcement and Nyleen's family. Even Robert Stack held the letter at the beginning of the segment. Wouldn't all of their DNA cover up the letter writer's?

As much as it pains me, I think that's an extreme long shot.

The letter was handled by workers at Child Find of America, law enforcement and Nyleen's family. Even Robert Stack held the letter at the beginning of the segment. Wouldn't all of their DNA cover up the letter writer's?

Not if it's under the stamp/envelope flap, I think. Worth a shot, regardless...

Little Miss Panasoffkee and the Sumter County, SC does.

The Boston rapist, even though the statute of limitations has apparently run out (there shouldn't be a statute of limitations for rape cases, imo).

As much as it pains me, I think that's an extreme long shot.

The letter was handled by workers at Child Find of America, law enforcement and Nyleen's family. Even Robert Stack held the letter at the beginning of the segment. Wouldn't all of their DNA cover up the letter writer's?

I'm talking about parts he licked: the flaps and the stamp. Those won't get affected, right?

I'm talking about parts he licked: the flaps and the stamp. Those won't get affected, right?

My bad. I didn't even think of that. Maybe there is some hope after all.

the shroud of turin...c'mon man!

I would love to see the Orange Sock Murders and Nyleen Marshall's case cracked.

I know we've all agreed that LE botched the crime scene something fierce, but... was there anything left behind with Eric Tamiyasu?

the shroud of turin...c'mon man!

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Then we get to find out who the Last Scion is! And I get get my Holy Bartender!

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Then we get to find out who the Last Scion is! And I get get my Holy Bartender!


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On a serious note I think the sky is the limit on these cold cases. It’s probably dependent on location, resources, and the amount of pressure from the public or from leadership to investigate cold cases. That’s why I think shows like UM are important because law enforcement are linked with the public. In a way it holds them accountable as well as they have very difficult jobs and public perception will always pressure them to have high standards in solving crime and investigating in a professional manner.

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On a serious note I think the sky is the limit on these cold cases. It’s probably dependent on location, resources, and the amount of pressure from the public or from leadership to investigate cold cases. That’s why I think shows like UM are important because law enforcement are linked with the public. In a way it holds them accountable as well as they have very difficult jobs and public perception will always pressure them to have high standards in solving crime and investigating in a professional manner.

+10.

I know it's another extreme long shot since it's been 37 years. But what about Rhonda Hinson?

This info was posted in 2012...

(Investigators) Weatherman and Sharpe realized one of the few pieces of evidence kept at the sheriff’s office, Hinson’s sweater, likely contained DNA from the person who pulled her from the car.

They sent the sweater to an SBI lab and found DNA in the armpits that did not belong to Hinson.

A DNA profile is logged in state and national DNA databases, and the sheriff’s office is just waiting for someone to enter a match.

New DNA samples are entered into these databases daily, including samples from every person in North Carolina charged with a felony and many convicts, and Weatherman is hopeful this is how investigators will crack the case.

Apparently, the sweater Rhonda was wearing was bought by her mother on the afternoon, just hours before she ended up being murdered. Again, it's asking a lot but I wonder if there is enough DNA on the sweater to be tested for forensic genealogy.

I know it's another extreme long shot since it's been 37 years. But what about Rhonda Hinson?

This info was posted in 2012...



Apparently, the sweater Rhonda was wearing was bought by her mother on the afternoon, just hours before she ended up being murdered. Again, it's asking a lot but I wonder if there is enough DNA on the sweater to be tested for forensic genealogy.


But that would mean it'd been handled by store employees and customers and likely never washed to remove their profiles.

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Then we get to find out who the Last Scion is! And I get get my Holy Bartender!

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What about the Bobbie Oberholtzer and Annette Schnee murders? Weren't both raped and killed by the same man? I'm sure there's physical evidence that was taken from their bodies and the orange socks, so hopefully they'll use familial DNA technology to find Bobbie and Annette's killer.

the shroud of turin...c'mon man!

Even worse. An examination did reveal some very old male human DNA, but since it's been handled by everybody for thousands of years could be from anyone.

Are any of you having your DNA tested and if so do you plan to enter it in a database?

Jeremy Bright...IF the blood-soaked clothing had been seized as evidence, it could be tested against Jeremy's relatives and see if the blood was Jeremy's. Then that makes the guy with the bloody clothing a prime suspect if he isn't already!

What about the Bobbie Oberholtzer and Annette Schnee murders? Weren't both raped and killed by the same man? I'm sure there's physical evidence that was taken from their bodies and the orange socks, so hopefully they'll use familial DNA technology to find Bobbie and Annette's killer.

You're much more likely to find crucial DNA evidence from Bobbie's glove, which was covered in the blood of her attacker as well as those bloody tissues.

http://www.rockymountaincoldcase.com/images/oberholtzer_7_glovetissue50.jpg

With Annette, that's going to be a much taller task since she was abducted first and did not seem to have anything useful to defend herself with, unlike Bobbie. It's believed she was raped because she was found with some of her clothes on inside out. Probably from being forced to get dressed again in a hurry. I guess they could test her clothes. But I think she's much more of a long shot.