Let's revisit this tragic case. Amy Bradley, a 23-year-old Virginia college student, went aboard the cruise ship Rhapsody of the Seas with her parents and brother in March 1998. On the early morning of March 24, 1998, Amy partied at the ship's dance club and was seen with a member of the ship's band, who witnesses said was flirting with and dancing too close to Amy. Ron said that at 5:30 that morning, he saw Amy asleep on the balcony of their suite. A half hour later, he awoke to find her gone. Amy's parents attempted to have the crew search for her. They claimed to have searched all 999 rooms for her, but Amy's parents later found out that no such search was conducted. When the ship docked in Curacao, the Bradleys searched the island for Amy, but were unable to find her. The Royal Caribbean cruise company believes Amy either accidentally fell overboard or deliberately jumped from the ship, but her parents believe she was taken off the ship against her will.

There were possible sightings of Amy Bradley in Curaçao in 1998 and 1999. Two Canadian tourists reported seeing a woman resembling Amy on a beach in Curaçao in August 1998. The woman's tattoos were reportedly identical to Bradley's. Bradley's tattoos included a Tasmanian Devil spinning a basketball located on her shoulder, the sun placed on her lower back, a Chinese symbol located on her right ankle, and a gecko lizard on her navel. She also had a navel ring. A member of the Navy stated that he had seen Bradley in a brothel in 1999. He claimed she told him that "her name was Amy Bradley and begged him for help," explaining that she was not allowed to leave.

There was another potential sighting in 2005, when a witness named Judy Maurer claimed to have seen Bradley in a department store restroom in Barbados.The witness claimed a woman entered the restroom with a couple of men, who were threatening her if she did not follow through on a deal. When she approached the distraught woman after the men left, she claimed the woman said her first name was Amy and that she was from Virginia before the men re entered the bathroom to take her. Mauer called authorities, who created composite sketches of three men and the woman based on her account.

Bradley's mother and father appeared on the November 17, 2005 episode of Dr. Phil. An image of a young woman resembling Amy Bradley that was emailed to her parents was shown on the program, and it suggests that she might have been sold into sexual slavery.

There is a $250,000 reward offered by the Bradley family for information leading to Amy Bradley's return and a $50,000 reward for information leading to her verifiable location. The FBI is offering a $25,000 reward for information leading to her recovery. Her case has been featured on America's Most Wanted, Unsolved Mysteries, Disappeared and Vanished.

I'll admit that I don't know a lot of details about this case, but I tried to research it in the past and I got really confused by the popular theory that she is still alive and is being sex-trafficked. I guess my questions are:

1.) Why did RC lie about the room searches?Did they at least stop everyone from leaving and entering at that time? How can they be so sure that someone didn't kill Amy and then stuff her body in a suitcase?
2.) While I don't think Amy fell overboard, wasn't she afraid of the water? I've also heard that she was a lifeguard and on her school swim team. Are both true? If so, it seems really odd that someone who participated in swim activities would be afraid of water...
3.) Aside from the "sightings" and that photo (the one of "Jas") has there ever been any other evidence that Amy is still alive? If these people saw her and she identified herself as Amy, then why did none of them immediately call the police? In these stories, there are always several men who conveniently come and take her away before any more can be said.
4.) Do her parents think she's alive, or do they think she's dead? I don't know how true this is, but I read on a message board that the Bradley's were swindled by a conman who claimed to be a private investigator who basically staged photos and told them that Amy was still alive. Are these photos available to be seen? They aren't the same ones as the "Jas" person, are they?
5.) Was the "Jas" in the photos ever contacted or proven that it wasn't Amy?

This is such a weird ass case. The majority seems to think Amy is still alive, but I just can't imagine how she wouldn't have been found after all these years. What's so special about her that would warrant her being kidnapped and held for all these years? And all this time, would she never have a moment alone without her captors? It just seems strange to me that a few individuals would dedicate their lives to pimping out this woman and then watching her every move. Yes, I realize human trafficking is a legitimate business but from documentaries I've watched normally, it's a bit more, faceless? Normally these men are herding hundreds of women, and not always the same ones. Kidnapping a woman off of a cruise ship and keeping her working well into her forties seems like not only a stretch, but a serious commitment. I just can't imagine real sex traffickers having interest in someone for that long, especially once Amy grew older. Seems like to me they would have used her and got rid of her once she aged out.

Actually, the more I think about it, the less sense it makes. I'm not saying Amy wasn't pretty, but from looking at pictures she seemed a bit tomboy-ish to me. From what I've gathered, traffickers look for girls with a specific look (I hear of aspiring models being tricked and sold this way) and Amy doesn't fit that profile.

But I also don't think she went overboard either. Did Alistair have a way to take her off the ship? Maybe she didn't get kidnapped or went overboard, maybe she was killed some other way.

1. It would have been logistically impossible to conduct a search of that nature. Plus they aren't law enforcement-they are ship crew & nothing like this had ever happened to them previously. At the time they likely thought she had either disembarked to party, was crashed out onboard somewhere drunk, or had hooked up with somebody on the ship & was in their room, let's not forget while the Bradley's were frantic she had only been missing for a very short time. I think the Bradley's probably misunderstood what they were told had happened or like most people heard what they wanted to hear, their time frames/stories are a tad confusing.

2. She was afraid of the open water of the ocean. I am afraid of heights but have no issue standing on a bridge looking down or being in a tall building, put me up in the air in a helicopter & my palms would be sweating like mad.

3. No, these were all people who came forward after national publicity when a reward was on the table.

4. No, that was a guy who contacted them in late 1999 & the con game happened in 2000, he used a couple of people he knew who would get a cut to pose as her & the captor. The photos have never been made public.

5. Nope, there is a photograph with a woman in the background taken in that area who also resembles Jas somewhat. Best guess is she was a wannabe model or legit escort who never came forward for obvious reasons-like getting out of that life & starting a family, or not wanting the authorities on her case. Often adult/porn services photos can be taken years before-so it is quite possible they were 5-10 years old. I did hear a podcast on the case where one of the hosts said he knew the guy who took them & he was in the adult business & it was just a casting audition/photos for cash situation, but he never elaborated with any details.

Well yes, this is the problem. LE have been unable to find her in 20 years, yet we are supposed to believe she is being led around in public by a bunch of incompetent goons who draw attention to themselves at every turn yet nobody can find them. Supposedly she was smuggled into America somehow in 2003 & has been smuggled all around the world for 20 years without one assumes her fake passport being detected or the yachts they use being raided by customs agents, now she is no longer a sex slave apparently but smuggling something else that the people making the claims refuse to say.

As you say what is so special about her that she would be kidnapped? There are any number of women willing to sell their bodies in that part of the world & no offence to Amy but she was hardly model material. The risk of kidnapping a US citizen & knowing the FBI & LE in the Caribbean will be hunting for her & you is incredibly high risk for low reward & then we are supposed to believe they are advertising her on websites, putting her in brothels attended by US citizens etc.

If we go by her fathers statements & that of witnesses she left the outside of the cabin between 5.30-6.00 am & got into an elevator, she plainly wasn't abducted from her sleeping position just outside the room her family were in. She had either arranged to meet somebody or was having trouble sleeping & wanted to wander-whether she met with foul play or just simply fell overboard due to alcohol consumption we will likely never know.

Sadly it seems the Bradley family believe she was abducted, that Jas is her & that she is still being held against her will 20 years on. Despite the con done on them they buy into certain people & one in particular who for whatever reason have filled their heads with lurid & frankly unbelievable tales in recent years while claiming they are in on the LE investigations.

Yeah this one's open and shut for me. She's dead. She fell overboard, the end.

The photos that have swirled around online don't convince me, they're very generic. I could see them taking a US citizen, in general, despite the risk because they probably want to have different types for the demands of their .... "customers"(ugh!). But, like James said, she didn't physically seem the type if that indeed was to have gone down.

The brothel thing. How much did the navy guy drink? Is he remembering the right name? Given the publicity the family was making could a random girl drop her name to try to get out of her own jam? All of this stuff is so flimsy you can poke a million holes in it

Agree with last 2 posts.

While its sad that people are left in a state of uncertainty of what happened to her, w out closure I believe that the only real logical and non emotional explanation is that she fell overboard at some point. Now, you can possibly say well maybe the fall overboard happened as a result of foul play, and that might be possible but I just do not buy any other theories.

She is not being sex trafficked. I am 99.9% certain of that.

The only 2 scenarios for me are 1: Fell overboard via too much drinking or 2: Fell overboard via foul play.

The only 2 scenarios for me are 1: Fell overboard via too much drinking or 2: Fell overboard via foul play.
I think these are the two most plausible theories. It's just too much of a stretch that she was taken from the ship and no one saw a thing. I used to be of the camp that there's no way she fell because she was terrified of the railing, but I still buy that more than the trafficking. It's also within the realm of possibility that she was assaulted and thrown overboard. Seedy things happen on cruise ships. It was five something in the morning, she was intoxicated, alone, and completely vulnerable. A mishap with the railing or another person on the cruise ship are much more likely than an elaborate kidnapping.

Eyewitness testimony is often mistaken, no matter how good a witness intentions might be. The women cited in the Vanished segment who "saw" her on the beach/in a bathroom? Too implausible, in my opinion. Why on Earth would a trafficked victim be allowed to roam around like that, even guarded? The navy guy who claims she identified herself in a brothel? Questionable at best.

The Vanished segment goes into a lot of detail about several incidents in which the Bradleys were duped by people who wanted to squeeze money out of them by pretending to have information about their daughter. I think that's probably the case with many of the stories.

Eyewitness testimony is often mistaken, no matter how good a witness intentions might be. The women cited in the Vanished segment who "saw" her on the beach/in a bathroom? Too implausible, in my opinion. Why on Earth would a trafficked victim be allowed to roam around like that, even guarded? The navy guy who claims she identified herself in a brothel? Questionable at best.
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Indeed.

It's also not like her tattoos were the most unique. WB's marketing machine had the looney toons everywhere in the 90s (child of that era), way more than you'd see now. Space Jam was also out 2 years before the disappearance. The Tasmanian Devil with a basketball ... not unique at all.

Chinese symbols are also common place, and easily mistaken to people who don't understand the language. Many who have them don't even know what they mean, they just "looked cool".

A sun tramp stamp ... what else is there to say here?

Yeah this one's open and shut for me. She's dead. She fell overboard, the end.

I’m in 100% agreement with this and always have been.

She was trashed and was outside on a balcony. Homegirl either lost her footing and fell over the edge or was vomiting over the edge and just fell out. While I’m certainly not proud of this, I have been inebriated to the point of being able to stand up but unable to keep my balance for more than one pace. Several times. The last time as recent as about 3-4 years ago. I can totally see somebody in that state of drunkenness falling over a stomach-high balcony. Especially in surroundings that they weren’t used to.

None of the other theories make any sense to me and I’ll be nice and leave it at that.

I’m in 100% agreement with this and always have been.

She was trashed and was outside on a balcony. Homegirl either lost her footing and fell over the edge or was vomiting over the edge and just fell out. While I’m certainly not proud of this, I have been inebriated to the point of being able to stand up but unable to keep my balance for more than one pace. Several times. The last time as recent as about 3-4 years ago. I can totally see somebody in that state of drunkenness falling over a stomach-high balcony. Especially in surroundings that they weren’t used to.

None of the other theories make any sense to me and I’ll be nice and leave it at that.

Agreed in full. I don't like to use the terms "overrated" and "underrated" while discussing true crime cases, but this would definitely be my pick for most overrated case that gets the most discussion.

My thoughts on this case have changed, and its ironically only because of something that happened to me last week:

So, without getting into TOO much stuff that's off topic, I got hospitalized for severe dehydration last week. (I had food poisoning. I wasn't re-hydrating after vomiting as I should have.) I went to the ER and felt horrible. While the techs were in the process of sitting me up to get a chest X-Ray, I felt like I was going to vomit. I said that, grabbed the vomit bag... and blacked out. I was told I was unconscious for about thirty seconds. In that time, the E.R. techs had moved my body back down on the hospital bed, were running vitals, and had started an IV and I didn't know/feel a thing because I was obviously unconscious. I'd never passed out like that before and had no idea how time passes, etc. when you're out like that.

Based on this new life information for me, I believe Amy Bradley was vomiting over the side of the ship (or thought she had to vomit and therefore leaned over the ship), passed out, slumped over the rail, and was knocked overboard. Nothing else makes sense to me anymore.

All it would take was one good ebb and poof ...

My thoughts on this case have changed, and its ironically only because of something that happened to me last week:

So, without getting into TOO much stuff that's off topic, I got hospitalized for severe dehydration last week. (I had food poisoning. I wasn't re-hydrating after vomiting as I should have.) I went to the ER and felt horrible. While the techs were in the process of sitting me up to get a chest X-Ray, I felt like I was going to vomit. I said that, grabbed the vomit bag... and blacked out. I was told I was unconscious for about thirty seconds. In that time, the E.R. techs had moved my body back down on the hospital bed, were running vitals, and had started an IV and I didn't know/feel a thing because I was obviously unconscious. I'd never passed out like that before and had no idea how time passes, etc. when you're out like that.

Based on this new life information for me, I believe Amy Bradley was vomiting over the side of the ship (or thought she had to vomit and therefore leaned over the ship), passed out, slumped over the rail, and was knocked overboard. Nothing else makes sense to me anymore.

While I didn't ever black out from a series of bouts of food poisonings years back, I sure as hell got dizzy & weak to where even lying down was painful, very unsteady & sleeping was in & out of bizarre nightmares as my body was really hot.

My thoughts on this case have changed, and its ironically only because of something that happened to me last week:

So, without getting into TOO much stuff that's off topic, I got hospitalized for severe dehydration last week. (I had food poisoning. I wasn't re-hydrating after vomiting as I should have.) I went to the ER and felt horrible. While the techs were in the process of sitting me up to get a chest X-Ray, I felt like I was going to vomit. I said that, grabbed the vomit bag... and blacked out. I was told I was unconscious for about thirty seconds. In that time, the E.R. techs had moved my body back down on the hospital bed, were running vitals, and had started an IV and I didn't know/feel a thing because I was obviously unconscious. I'd never passed out like that before and had no idea how time passes, etc. when you're out like that.

Based on this new life information for me, I believe Amy Bradley was vomiting over the side of the ship (or thought she had to vomit and therefore leaned over the ship), passed out, slumped over the rail, and was knocked overboard. Nothing else makes sense to me anymore.

How are you feeling now? :( Hopefully much better!

I'm wondering if Drew is the same one I had to ban due to crass statements? Anyways, don't forget that witnesses saw Amy and Yellow, a member of the ship's band, walk up the stairs to the upper deck, and he came back minutes later by himself. Amy was NOT alone. I don't know if anyone testified as to how inebriated Amy was or might have been during the time she left her parents' suite, but if she didn't accidentally fall overboard (doubtful, given that Amy hated the open waters and wouldn't have gotten near the railing), then the bass player made more sexual advances towards Amy in her intoxicated state, she resisted, and was pushed or thrown off the ship.

My thoughts on this case have changed, and its ironically only because of something that happened to me last week:

So, without getting into TOO much stuff that's off topic, I got hospitalized for severe dehydration last week. (I had food poisoning. I wasn't re-hydrating after vomiting as I should have.) I went to the ER and felt horrible. While the techs were in the process of sitting me up to get a chest X-Ray, I felt like I was going to vomit. I said that, grabbed the vomit bag... and blacked out. I was told I was unconscious for about thirty seconds. In that time, the E.R. techs had moved my body back down on the hospital bed, were running vitals, and had started an IV and I didn't know/feel a thing because I was obviously unconscious. I'd never passed out like that before and had no idea how time passes, etc. when you're out like that.

Based on this new life information for me, I believe Amy Bradley was vomiting over the side of the ship (or thought she had to vomit and therefore leaned over the ship), passed out, slumped over the rail, and was knocked overboard. Nothing else makes sense to me anymore.

As I started reading this, I totally thought you were going to go with a "Tom Sawyer/Max Planck" sort of story and say you were clinically dead for a few minutes and that you met Amy Bradley who said she fell over the side on her own and that it wasn't your time yet and you should return to your life on Earth... :D :lol:

In all seriousness, that sounds HORRIBLE and I hope you are feeling back to normal. I can't imagine barfing and blacking out like that... Scary.

Agree with last 2 posts.

While its sad that people are left in a state of uncertainty of what happened to her, w out closure I believe that the only real logical and non emotional explanation is that she fell overboard at some point. Now, you can possibly say well maybe the fall overboard happened as a result of foul play, and that might be possible but I just do not buy any other theories.

She is not being sex trafficked. I am 99.9% certain of that.

The only 2 scenarios for me are 1: Fell overboard via too much drinking or 2: Fell overboard via foul play.

I totally agree with this. I think the trafficking stories are just red herrings/false hope. I feel really bad for her family and if it were my daughter/sister I would never give up hope or stop looking. But sadly, I think she fell off or was pushed of the boat and died at sea.

I'm wondering if Drew is the same one I had to ban due to crass statements? Anyways, don't forget that witnesses saw Amy and Yellow, a member of the ship's band, walk up the stairs to the upper deck, and he came back minutes later by himself. Amy was NOT alone. I don't know if anyone testified as to how inebriated Amy was or might have been during the time she left her parents' suite, but if she didn't accidentally fall overboard (doubtful, given that Amy hated the open waters and wouldn't have gotten near the railing), then the bass player made more sexual advances towards Amy in her intoxicated state, she resisted, and was pushed or thrown off the ship.

Don't remember reading this, I remember seeing witnesses saying she was on her own in an elevator but don't recall any mention of her being seen with him or anybody else. Any links to this?

I'm wondering if Drew is the same one I had to ban due to crass statements? Anyways, don't forget that witnesses saw Amy and Yellow, a member of the ship's band, walk up the stairs to the upper deck, and he came back minutes later by himself. Amy was NOT alone. I don't know if anyone testified as to how inebriated Amy was or might have been during the time she left her parents' suite, but if she didn't accidentally fall overboard (doubtful, given that Amy hated the open waters and wouldn't have gotten near the railing), then the bass player made more sexual advances towards Amy in her intoxicated state, she resisted, and was pushed or thrown off the ship.

To the first point, no I'm no such person.

She was also not that afraid of the open water or the railing to go to sleep next to both. An inebriated person with limited balance and an ebb of the ship at the wrong moment is all it would take.

As for the bass player going upstairs, there were hundreds of people on that boat and I'm sure more than a few had that short Lisa Rinna-esq 90s hair that he could have been walking with. Were the witnesses sober? It's not like we have CCTV evidence here.

The trafficking theory was never credible in this situation. Assaults by crew members do occur, but other than the alleged sighting with the musician there's no strong evidence that leads to that conclusion. In all likelihood she accidentally fell overboard, whether that was due to inebriation, being disoriented due to lack of sleep or trying to conquer her fear by leaning or standing on the railing will never be known for certain. Now people are having accidental falls in an attempt to get the perfect selfie.

I thought it was possible Amy had been kidnapped for a long time, but not anymore. I never thought that woman in the photo was Amy, though. The picture looks like it was taken many years before Amy disappeared. And even if she had been kidnapped, I don't believe she would have still been alive in 2005. Anyway, I think Amy got sick and fell overboard after her father drifted off to sleep. She may have normally been afraid of the water, but I doubt she felt as afraid at the time because she was drunk.

My theory is, she met with foul play and never made it off that boat alive. What actually happened, we will most likely never know but it was no accident imo.

As a teenager seeing this for the first time I never thought this was much of a mystery and little has changed my mind. It sounds clearly like a case of her falling overboard while nearly unconscious from being drunk: that would explain why nobody heard a scream and it would be like finding a needle in a haystack for anyone to see a body in the water, especially at night. There is certainly a slim possibility that somebody could have accidently or intentionally knocked her overboard but all signs point to at unfortunate accident.

I've heard it said that Amy couldn't have fallen overboard because she was afraid of water but there is a reason alcohol is sometimes referred to as "liquid courage". It doesn't rob your free will but it certainly can make you take very foolish risks you wouldn't otherwise. I can appreciate that large organizations like to cover up things like this but there is no conspiracy and it's ridiculous to detain everyone just because an adult is missing.

A crazy thought but the Titantic movie came out less than a year before her disappearance. Maybe she alone or with a fellow drunk person (or even a crew member) thought it would be a great idea to reenact that famous scene from the movie? I certainly saw more than one person get WAY too close to the edge when I was a passenger on a ferry.

My theory is, she met with foul play and never made it off that boat alive. What actually happened, we will most likely never know but it was no accident imo.That’s what I tend to go along with. Which is probably why the cruise ship didn’t do a thorough search. The cruise line seems pretty shady and knew a lot more than they would admit.

That’s what I tend to go along with. Which is probably why the cruise ship didn’t do a thorough search. The cruise line seems pretty shady and knew a lot more than they would admit.

I find it unlikely-there was no incidents of kidnapping on this vessel before or since, there was a rape in 2010, but that is it for nearly 21 years. We have to remember that she had been missing for a very short time-while the family might have been frantic to the Captain it was likely just another drunk youngster gone off for a tryst with another passenger, or she had gone exploring. To expect him to stop everybody disembarking with zero evidence of a crime is ridiculous, as is expecting them to be searching like they are the FBI, they are sailors, not trained law enforcement & there were probably very poor or even no protocols in place for this kind of stuff back then &no experience of it happening.

As a teenager seeing this for the first time I never thought this was much of a mystery and little has changed my mind. It sounds clearly like a case of her falling overboard while nearly unconscious from being drunk: that would explain why nobody heard a scream and it would be like finding a needle in a haystack for anyone to see a body in the water, especially at night. There is certainly a slim possibility that somebody could have accidently or intentionally knocked her overboard but all signs point to at unfortunate accident.

I've heard it said that Amy couldn't have fallen overboard because she was afraid of water but there is a reason alcohol is sometimes referred to as "liquid courage". It doesn't rob your free will but it certainly can make you take very foolish risks you wouldn't otherwise. I can appreciate that large organizations like to cover up things like this but there is no conspiracy and it's ridiculous to detain everyone just because an adult is missing.

A crazy thought but the Titantic movie came out less than a year before her disappearance. Maybe she alone or with a fellow drunk person (or even a crew member) thought it would be a great idea to reenact that famous scene from the movie? I certainly saw more than one person get WAY too close to the edge when I was a passenger on a ferry.

The Titanic angle is an interesting idea.

I find it unlikely-there was no incidents of kidnapping on this vessel before or since, there was a rape in 2010, but that is it for nearly 21 years. We have to remember that she had been missing for a very short time-while the family might have been frantic to the Captain it was likely just another drunk youngster gone off for a tryst with another passenger, or she had gone exploring. To expect him to stop everybody disembarking with zero evidence of a crime is ridiculous, as is expecting them to be searching like they are the FBI, they are sailors, not trained law enforcement & there were probably very poor or even no protocols in place for this kind of stuff back then &no experience of it happening.

Agree with everything.

The uproar from confining hundreds of passengers to the boat with nothing more to go on than an adult is off somewhere would have been a customer service nightmare for an entity whose sole business is hospitality. Especially with a consenting adult and no evidence there was anything wrong

The Titanic angle is an interesting idea.

Agreed.

Titanic theory interesting and plausible as well. Even more so than the trafficking theory.

I think the least plausible of all the theories discussed is "she was sent into human trafficking".

Agreed.

Titanic theory interesting and plausible as well. Even more so than the trafficking theory.

I think the least plausible of all the theories discussed is "she was sent into human trafficking".

While I agree (now) that Amy was not likely a victim of human trafficking, I think a lot of people don't realize just *how* common it really is. I had no idea until I took a required work seminar about it three years ago. It happens so quickly and so commonly that it really is scary.

In all honesty, if I weren't 99% sure that Johan VanDerSloot killed Natalie Holloway and disposed of her body, I'd think she had been a victim of human trafficking, too.

I’ve always been skeptical of the human trafficking theory regarding both Amy Bradley and Natalie Holloway. I’m not going to say that trafficking doesn’t happen, but I just can’t get behind that theory in the cases mentioned. Two girls both from well-to-do families whose cases have received a considerable attention? Not going to buy it. Probably a likely trafficking victim is someone impoverished, someone who likely wouldn’t have too many people looking for them. If they were trafficked, it’s unlikely that they’re still around. It’s not an occupation that comes with high life expectancy. Even ignoring that, probably their handlers would have killed them once their cases blew up.

After thinking about it I think the most likely scenario was that she was seasick. There's footage of her being drunk, and her brother said she was drunk on the balcony when she got back.

Laying on a balcony of a ship could make you seasick period, but if you're drunk it's really going to make you nauseous. I bet she got seasick and fell overboard when she went to throw up.

What about her family's comments that she was absent from all of the pictures displayed on board of the passengers? Any photo that would have had Amy included was not hung up.
(IIRC, the crew would take photos of nightly events and then post them shortly after)

What about her family's comments that she was absent from all of the pictures displayed on board of the passengers? Any photo that would have had Amy included was not hung up.
(IIRC, the crew would take photos of nightly events and then post them shortly after)

Who knows? Maybe they got lost somehow, perhaps another passenger got them by mistake along with their own, got back home & chucked them, maybe somebody felt slighted by a perceived attitude of the Bradley family & took the photos to annoy/confuse them, or maybe somebody found her attractive & took the photos to keep.

What about her family's comments that she was absent from all of the pictures displayed on board of the passengers? Any photo that would have had Amy included was not hung up.
(IIRC, the crew would take photos of nightly events and then post them shortly after)

Taken by law enforcement?

If this was a tradition, and assuming this meant they had a photo lab on board to process film, then what is the implication they're trying to make? The ship and cruise line are also involved in the human trafficking? Like, at what point do the conspiracies stop?

Taken by law enforcement?

If this was a tradition, and assuming this meant they had a photo lab on board to process film, then what is the implication they're trying to make? The ship and cruise line are also involved in the human trafficking? Like, at what point do the conspiracies stop?

I think the implication was the strangers who came onboard were given the photos by those arranging her to be trafficked off the ship so they could identify their target. Of course it doesn't hold any water as she was dozing/sleeping outside quite happily where she could have been kidnapped & went somewhere else on the ship for reasons only she & whoever she was possibly meeting would know.

That the ship staff were involved in the sex trafficking trade, is also laughable-aside from a staff member raping a women in 2010 in the 21 years it has been sailing there have been no instances of anybody else going missing.

I think the implication was the strangers who came onboard were given the photos by those arranging her to be trafficked off the ship so they could identify their target. Of course it doesn't hold any water as she was dozing/sleeping outside quite happily where she could have been kidnapped & went somewhere else on the ship for reasons only she & whoever she was possibly meeting would know.

That the ship staff were involved in the sex trafficking trade, is also laughable-aside from a staff member raping a women in 2010 in the 21 years it has been sailing there have been no instances of anybody else going missing.

Yeah, it definitely doesn't hold water. Like if it were for the case of identifying the target they'd obliterate all references to her in these photos, even the ones where she's in the background, rather than just giving a kidnapper one or two of the best shots to ID their "target"? They'd go to the lengths of trying to completely disappear her from the ship in all contexts?

I just don't get this one as a case. My brain refuses to wrap around it as a mystery.

What about her family's comments that she was absent from all of the pictures displayed on board of the passengers? Any photo that would have had Amy included was not hung up.
(IIRC, the crew would take photos of nightly events and then post them shortly after)

It's possible that since she was missing that the cruise line didn't put them up or took them down.

Maybe her photos were taken down and distributed amongst the crew to see if anyone had seen her.

I put no stake on the missing photos. No offense but a distraught family will grasp on to any straw for some answers. This is just like "Jasmine" or her being found in a brothel.

Also what's the logic of taking her photos if she was being kidnapped into sex slavery? Her parents could just give more photos

EDIT: I guess the logic is what James said, to give to the kidnapper to identify her. But she was last seen sleep on the balcony and her shoes were still on the balcony. That means they would've scoured the ship high and low until they busted into her parents cabin and went on the balcony without any of her family waking up.

She fell in.

It's possible that since she was missing that the cruise line didn't put them up or took them down.

Maybe her photos were taken down and distributed amongst the crew to see if anyone had seen her.

I put no stake on the missing photos. No offense but a distraught family will grasp on to any straw for some answers. This is just like "Jasmine" or her being found in a brothel.

Also what's the logic of taking her photos if she was being kidnapped into sex slavery? Her parents could just give more photos

EDIT: I guess the logic is what James said, to give to the kidnapper to identify her. But she was last seen sleep on the balcony and her shoes were still on the balcony. That means they would've scoured the ship high and low until they busted into her parents cabin and went on the balcony without any of her family waking up.

She fell in.

Well, if the witnesses are to be believed, she was last seen going up an elevator around 6am. But it's still the same scenario. If she had stayed asleep on the balcony they never would have gotten her and the whole photo theory falls apart. (Also, if it were really for the purposes of identifying the target, why wouldn't they just use copies of the pics rather than disappear "all traces"? Illogical.)

There was nothing specifically special about Amy Bradley to warrant such a planned extraction, like she was a rich heiress to be held for ransom or something and that only she would have suited their needs. There were probably hundreds of brunette women on that boat that if they were really seeking a "type" that they could have grabbed when opportunity better allowed for it.

I can understand not wishing to believe a relative had died, but I'd rather believe that then convince myself for decades that they were being raped and abused daily with very little proof.

Well, if the witnesses are to be believed, she was last seen going up an elevator around 6am.

Either they were mistaken with the time, or lying. There's video footage of Amy and Yellow dancing on the dance floor. After the dance is when her brother had said she came back on the balcony and told him about the dance and something about Yellow.

Either they were seen walking after the dance, and before she returned to the room, or before the dance. Or the eye witnesses lied.

Two of her family members said that she was last seen on the balcony. She was drunk/hungover and her father saw her sleep around 5 am. I doubt she met with Yellow after being passed out drunk on the balcony

Yellow is the worst UM nickname since Caradoc.

Yellow is the worst UM nickname since Caradoc.

Lmao. No kiddin

I watched the Disappeared episode that just aired today. I was disappointed there was no additional information from what already was profiled on "Vanished" (hosted by Beth Holloway), but they do go into some depth about the scam artists trying to con the Bradleys out of money.

Sadly, I still stand by the theory she ended up in the water, whether accidentally or via foul play. And if that is the case, the odds of any trace of her being found are slim to none. It seems highly unlikely she ever left the ship or that someone was able to drag her off without anyone taking notice.

I watched the Disappeared episode that just aired today. I was disappointed there was no additional information from what already was profiled on "Vanished" (hosted by Beth Holloway), but they do go into some depth about the scam artists trying to con the Bradleys out of money.

Sadly, I still stand by the theory she ended up in the water, whether accidentally or via foul play. And if that is the case, the odds of any trace of her being found are slim to none. It seems highly unlikely she ever left the ship or that someone was able to drag her off without anyone taking notice.


I've never been on a cruise, and never will as it's not my thing, but I have to think people are at the dock monitoring departures and arrivals? Surely someone would have seen something.

I've never been on a cruise, and never will as it's not my thing, but I have to think people are at the dock monitoring departures and arrivals? Surely someone would have seen something.

They typically are. However, I think the theory is that she was taken off a different way, via a crew exit.

As I said, I changed my theory on this case about a month ago. :)

I watched the Disappeared episode that just aired today. I was disappointed there was no additional information from what already was profiled on "Vanished" (hosted by Beth Holloway), but they do go into some depth about the scam artists trying to con the Bradleys out of money.

Sadly, I still stand by the theory she ended up in the water, whether accidentally or via foul play. And if that is the case, the odds of any trace of her being found are slim to none. It seems highly unlikely she ever left the ship or that someone was able to drag her off without anyone taking notice.

I have to say that I agree with you here Dreamer. I feel I should preface this by saying that I know nothing about human trafficking (thankfully), and as I refuse to take a cruise, I really know nothing about them either.

When I first began following this case, back in the 90s I guess, I was positive that Bradley had tragically fallen victim to the trafficking trade. As I watched the Disappeared episode just the other day however, I realized that my opinion has changed, and likely had been changed for some time. I too now believe that she sadly fell or was pushed overboard. What I'm always confused about however with regards to this case, is why the "overboard theory" is so unpopular. Maybe one of my fellow posters can explain that to me.

The Bradley family of course are in a horrible position no matter what. Regardless of whether she went overboard, or was trafficked, the fact remains that they still have a missing loved one at the end of it all. I can absolutely understand and applaud their commitment to finding her regardless of the various theories being debated. This is all JMO as always.

The Bradley family of course are in a horrible position no matter what. Regardless of whether she went overboard, or was trafficked, the fact remains that they still have a missing loved one at the end of it all. I can absolutely understand and applaud their commitment to finding her regardless of the various theories being debated. This is all JMO as always.

The hardest part of this case for me is how hard the Bradleys cling to the hope that she's still alive, and how much the case obviously still affects them after all these years. I can't imagine the anguish that must bring them.

The hardest part of this case for me is how hard the Bradleys cling to the hope that she's still alive, and how much the case obviously still affects them after all these years. I can't imagine the anguish that must bring them.

Probably the hardest part of the case for me Smitty, is seeing how many lowlifes have tried to scam the family during what has to be the worst trauma of their lives. Don't get me wrong...I'm absolutely against scam artists under any circumstances, but IMO a person has to be an extra special POS to take advantage of people in these types of situations.

Just watched the video of Amy dancing with Yellow shortly before she disappeared and she looks really drunk/drugged out.

I agree with the rest of you that she most likely fell overboard. Over the years and seeing updates on various Unsolved cases I've put less trust into eye witnesses (Lil Miss case for example). I think witnesses were mistaken when they said they saw Amy at 6 am, about an hour after her father claimed to see her sleeping on the patio.

Do we know if there was a direct drop off in to the water from the Bradley's patio?

If so, I think it's pretty obvious what happened to her.

The hardest part of this case for me is how hard the Bradleys cling to the hope that she's still alive, and how much the case obviously still affects them after all these years. I can't imagine the anguish that must bring them.

I find it hard to fathom that they would rather believe their daughter has spent 20 years as a kidnap victim, force-fed drugs, raped, forced into prostitution etc than fallen off a ship accidentally or met a quick end at a killer's hands than morning.

This will likely sound crude, but I can't imagine it would be very efficient to kidnap just one individual woman for trafficking purposes from an entire cruise ship. There are ways, still employed heavily today, of casting much wider nets, so to speak.

I think she fell overboard.

I find it hard to fathom that they would rather believe their daughter has spent 20 years as a kidnap victim, force-fed drugs, raped, forced into prostitution etc than fallen off a ship accidentally or met a quick end at a killer's hands than morning.

You make a good point. But as a parent, I can understand how clinging to any hope that your child is still alive has to be easier than assuming she is dead. If I were in their shoes, I wouldn’t stop looking and I would hunt down every possible lead.

But as an outsider, I totally agree with you.

This will likely sound crude, but I can't imagine it would be very efficient to kidnap just one individual woman for trafficking purposes from an entire cruise ship. There are ways, still employed heavily today, of casting much wider nets, so to speak.

I think she fell overboard.

I totally agree. While it’s not impossible she was made into a sex slave, the story really doesn’t make much sense. A lot would have to happen for this to come together. Occam’s razor said she fell (or was pushed) overboard. I’m guessing she fell, too.

I have to say that I'm somewhat relieved to see that I'm not the only one who holds the overboard theory. It just seemed for a while there that whenever that theory was debated there was a distinctly negative response. I'm not referring to this board so much as other forums out there. I never understood this, as the overboard theory makes a lot of sense to me.

I am curious about one thing however, as I've personally never been on a cruise. How easy would it be to accidentally fall overboard? Perhaps some of my better educated and more experienced posters can weigh in on that one.

This will likely sound crude, but I can't imagine it would be very efficient to kidnap just one individual woman for trafficking purposes from an entire cruise ship. There are ways, still employed heavily today, of casting much wider nets, so to speak.

Agreed. You would think that targeting her on Curacao would be more efficient and easier to get away with.

Just watched the video of Amy dancing with Yellow shortly before she disappeared and she looks really drunk/drugged out.

I agree with the rest of you that she most likely fell overboard. Over the years and seeing updates on various Unsolved cases I've put less trust into eye witnesses (Lil Miss case for example). I think witnesses were mistaken when they said they saw Amy at 6 am, about an hour after her father claimed to see her sleeping on the patio.

Do we know if there was a direct drop off in to the water from the Bradley's patio?

If so, I think it's pretty obvious what happened to her.
I am not sure about their room on that ship, but if you consider the last credible sighting of Amy was by her father on the patio that is a distinct possibility. they also make a big deal at the beginning about her fear of the overlook, but then don't seem to highlight the fact that she was last seen alone on the balcony?

she had a fear of the overlook, was likely under the influence, and what do some people do under those circumstances? well a lot of times we get bold.

I agree that we cannot hold a lot of stock in the eye witnesses. especially if you consider the alcohol/fatigue factor. It is possible that she was a victim of foul play because it does happen. So I understand the family holding onto hope that she did not fall overboard. It's rather unfortunate that people do take advantage and at some point the family has to steer away from those people.

I have been on a cruise ship at is is very hard to go over board. The side railing on a cruise ship is very high about up to your chin. You have to do some heafty dutty climbing to fall over it or off it. Or some one had to have the stength to toss you over. Or you aveto be standing on something that is near the railing. And it does not sound like she would get to near the railing and had to prod her to do so by her family the one time they got Amy to do it. As for intoxication or being high there was no evidence of that according to her brother. Just Amy smoking a ciggarette. It was the bahavior of that musician Amy was lwas last seen with that makes the family speculate he had something to do with her being taken off ship.

I have been on a cruise ship at is is very hard to go over board. The side railing on a cruise ship is very high about up to your chin. You have to do some heafty dutty climbing to fall over it or off it. Or some one had to have the stength to toss you over. Or you aveto be standing on something that is near the railing. And it does not sound like she would get to near the railing and had to prod her to do so by her family the one time they got Amy to do it. As for intoxication or being high there was no evidence of that according to her brother. Just Amy smoking a ciggarette. It was the bahavior of that musician Amy was lwas last seen with that makes the family speculate he had something to do with her being taken off ship.

She was certainly hitting the booze pretty hard until the early hours when she returned to the family quarters.

She was certainly hitting the booze pretty hard until the early hours when she returned to the family quarters.
I feel bad for the family and I do consider their account to be genuine. But I also think there are two sides to every story and like so many segments we are only hearing the account from the family. I don't remember the segment mentioning her being intoxicated or not, but I am not naïve to think that alcohol was (not) a factor in her disappearance. I don't know of many people that stay up all night on a cruise ship that are not taking part in alcohol consumption. on most cruises I've been on the majority of the cruisers go to bed at night and the party goes on at the clubs. I can only imagine how easy it is for young ladies to get drinks if they want them.

I have been on a cruise ship at is is very hard to go over board. The side railing on a cruise ship is very high about up to your chin. You have to do some heafty dutty climbing to fall over it or off it. Or some one had to have the stength to toss you over. Or you aveto be standing on something that is near the railing. And it does not sound like she would get to near the railing and had to prod her to do so by her family the one time they got Amy to do it. As for intoxication or being high there was no evidence of that according to her brother. Just Amy smoking a ciggarette. It was the bahavior of that musician Amy was lwas last seen with that makes the family speculate he had something to do with her being taken off ship.
I have been on several cruise ships and there are several areas were the rails do not go up to someone's chin(for an average adult). you make the case of having to climb over and I agree that there would take some effort or extreme carelessness/intoxication for someone to jump or fall overboard. with that said I don't know that heavy duty effort is necessary in a lot of places. I have seen other documentaries about people falling and jumping overboard on cruise ships. it does happen and to say that it was not possible for amy to fall or jump overboard...i dont agree with that. I think it is something that the family does not want to consider(naturally i don't blame them). the segment goes out of the way to immediately show how scared she was to go up to the rail on the deck(to negate the falling or jumping overboard), yet she had no problem smoking and sleeping on the balcony alone without her parents or brother sitting with her?

I've never been on a cruise, and never will as it's not my thing, but I have to think people are at the dock monitoring departures and arrivals? Surely someone would have seen something.
Yes they would have seen something if it were abnormal. on cruises today every passenger and crew that enters and exits a ship is scanned on and off and passports are required to sail. The passport law went into effect about 10 years ago or so. As far as I know crew and passengers use the same disembarkment and reembarking process. I’m guessing back then it may not have been the same process because royal Caribbean mentions that she may have disembarked on her on. On a cruise today they would have a documented record and time stamp of someone leaving/returning to the ship as your ship ID card is scanned. That is also how they know that everyone has returned before they sail. I’m not sure what system they used back in 1998.

I've come around more on her possibly falling overboard. I've never been on a cruise but I've heard stories of passengers falling overboard (drunk or not drunk) and it sounds terrifying. Especially if you're alone at that very moment and nobody is around to see it because at that point, you're finished.

So I'm 99% there. The 1% that still continues to nag at me is the sliding glass balcony doors being open. They were closed when Amy's father saw her feet at 5:00 a.m. and they were open when the father woke up an hour later and Amy was gone. Regardless of how drunk or tipsy she might have been, she was coherent enough to stand up, turn in the RIGHT direction and open those doors.

I can only think of two scenarios with her falling off that balcony after opening the doors...

*For some reason, she doesn't leave, stays on the balcony, turns around and eventually walks over to the railing and falls over. (But what would be the point of opening the doors?)

*Some have said she was a smoker and maybe she went to get her cigarettes. She could have left, retrieved her cigarettes from her own room that she was sharing with her brother, come back to her parents room, walked out on the balcony and decided to leave the doors open and THEN fall overboard. (Very possible. But why not use the balcony of her own room instead of going back to her parents? It would be a much shorter trip. Did their room have a balcony?)

Am I reading too much into those doors? I agree that falling overboard is the easiest possible scenario and despite very painful for the family, a much less nightmarish situation than her being sold into a sex slavery ring never to be rescued...but they nag at me.

Am I reading too much into those doors?

Simply put, yes.

Her father could have easily been mistaken as far as remembering seeing the doors open and/or closed. After all, he was half asleep and only had his eyes open for a second or two. Just look at all of the sober, 100% coherent witnesses on UM that were absolutely mistaken regarding their eyewitness testimony. Add being half asleep and in an unfamiliar environment and you don’t have a credible witness at all, especially since he is emotionally attached to the case.

I’ll play along just for fun though. Let’s just say the doors were actually closed at first and then open later. It’s far more plausible that she felt like she had to vomit, stood up to head to the bathroom but realized she wasn’t going to make it in time and turned back towards the railing just after opening the door to puke into the water than it is that there was foul play involved.

It seriously makes no sense to me at all that someone like her would end up a sex slave in some sort of human trafficking scheme. Like, zero. There are a variety of reasons for this and I don’t want to elaborate too much about it because I don’t know if it’s possible to do it without sounding a little bit mean.

It seriously makes no sense to me at all that someone like her would end up a sex slave in some sort of human trafficking scheme. Like, zero. There are a variety of reasons for this and I don’t want to elaborate too much about it because I don’t know if it’s possible to do it without sounding a little bit mean.

I had the same thought. Let's just say she didn't exactly look like a prime target to be kidnapped and leave it at that. I still believe she fell overboard no matter what but it is something to consider.

I've come around more on her possibly falling overboard. I've never been on a cruise but I've heard stories of passengers falling overboard (drunk or not drunk) and it sounds terrifying. Especially if you're alone at that very moment and nobody is around to see it because at that point, you're finished.

So I'm 99% there. The 1% that still continues to nag at me is the sliding glass balcony doors being open. They were closed when Amy's father saw her feet at 5:00 a.m. and they were open when the father woke up an hour later and Amy was gone. Regardless of how drunk or tipsy she might have been, she was coherent enough to stand up, turn in the RIGHT direction and open those doors.

I can only think of two scenarios with her falling off that balcony after opening the doors...

*For some reason, she doesn't leave, stays on the balcony, turns around and eventually walks over to the railing and falls over. (But what would be the point of opening the doors?)

*Some have said she was a smoker and maybe she went to get her cigarettes. She could have left, retrieved her cigarettes from her own room that she was sharing with her brother, come back to her parents room, walked out on the balcony and decided to leave the doors open and THEN fall overboard. (Very possible. But why not use the balcony of her own room instead of going back to her parents? It would be a much shorter trip. Did their room have a balcony?)

Am I reading too much into those doors? I agree that falling overboard is the easiest possible scenario and despite very painful for the family, a much less nightmarish situation than her being sold into a sex slavery ring never to be rescued...but they nag at me.

I think when you look at this case the segment highly discounts the overboard possibility. They start the segment discussing crime on cruise ships and showing how fearful she was to even approach the rail. From there the scene is set and we are left with a number of circumstances (that are normal on a cruise)that give the family hope that she is still alive. But for me there are only 2 possibilities. She was either smuggled off the ship in some type of secrecy or she fell overboard from her balcony. I went on my first cruise in 2007 on a royal Caribbean ship that was probably similar to the same one she was on. Clearly 9 years (from 1998) is a long time and things change. But I just don’t see how a person can be taken off a ship without multiple crew and other passengers finding out about it. This would also be a very unusual crime. while there may be crime at sea there aren’t patterns of tourists being kidnapped off of cruiseliners. And I don’t believe that she would walk out alone, but if she did she would not have very many places to hide after the tourists re-board the ship. The only way she could have been kidnapped for me is if she left the ship alone or with someone else and were victimised later. but that does not fit either based off the family's testimony.

I have seen other documentaries about people falling and jumping overboard on cruise ships. it does happen and to say that it was not possible for amy to fall or jump overboard...i dont agree with that.

What documentaries? Do you remember the names? I'd really like to watch that.

What documentaries? Do you remember the names? I'd really like to watch that.
I do not remember the shows, but it was one of the cable documentary channels. I will keep looking for it and post it if I find it. if you go to the video websites and type in what you are looking for you will find multiple vids of people falling overboard including the woman that I saw in the documentary who was drunk, fell overboard from her balcony, and later sued carnival for (IIRC overserving her alcohol and taking too long to rescue her). her fall was also caught on camera.

If you go on google and search there are cases from just a few months ago with people falling off of ships to their death.

I do not remember the shows, but it was one of the cable documentary channels. I will keep looking for it and post it if I find it. if you go to the video websites and type in what you are looking for you will find multiple vids of people falling overboard including the woman that I saw in the documentary who was drunk, fell overboard from her balcony, and later sued carnival for (IIRC overserving her alcohol and taking too long to rescue her). her fall was also caught on camera.

If you go on google and search there are cases from just a few months ago with people falling off of ships to their death.

Shows the world we live in-can you imagine the scene she would have caused if staff had stopped serving her booze? So she takes zero responsibility for her alcohol intake & reckless behaviour that led to her falling over & looks for compensation instead.

Shows the world we live in-can you imagine the scene she would have caused if staff had stopped serving her booze? So she takes zero responsibility for her alcohol intake & reckless behaviour that led to her falling over & looks for compensation instead.
Absolutely. And it is also troubling that she stated to the media that she could not even remember how she fell.

the woman that I saw in the documentary who was drunk, fell overboard from her balcony, and later sued carnival for (IIRC overserving her alcohol and taking too long to rescue her). her fall was also caught on camera.

I just watched her fall on YouTube. She bounces off one of the lifeboats before hitting the water. Her name is Sarah Kirby and as of 2014, she was suing Carnival including two doctors on board the ship. But four years later, there is virtually no information online as to how that lawsuit turned out.

This woman sounds like a real piece of work. She claims she fell but eyewitnesses said she jumped. A passenger on board also claims that the woman ruined a Jamaican wedding on the ship in her intoxicated state.

I just watched her fall on YouTube. She bounces off one of the lifeboats before hitting the water. Her name is Sarah Kirby and as of 2014, she was suing Carnival including two doctors on board the ship. But four years later, there is virtually no information online as to how that lawsuit turned out.

This woman sounds like a real piece of work. She claims she fell but eyewitnesses said she jumped. A passenger on board also claims that the woman ruined a Jamaican wedding on the ship in her intoxicated state.
Interesting to say the least. I’m sure she got paid to keep quiet...maybe a another round or two on the house? Cruise lines love to rid themselves of any negativity.

Interesting to say the least. I’m sure she got paid to keep quiet...maybe a another round or two on the house? Cruise lines love to rid themselves of any negativity.

They probably settled out of court with a stipulation that both parties are not allowed to discuss the details of the settlement. That’s likely why there hasn’t been any new information on this in 4 years or so. At least that’s my guess.

They probably settled out of court with a stipulation that both parties are not allowed to discuss the details of the settlement. That’s likely why there hasn’t been any new information on this in 4 years or so. At least that’s my guess.
I agree

Here is a brand new 30 minute podcast from her university in brad’s own words.

https://soundcloud.com/user-748895801/revisiting-the-disappearance-of-amy-bradley-96-part-1

Poor guy, he’s like yeah if she had fallen 80 feet down into the open ocean (he says in the canal which isn’t true) she would have swum to shore, and I’m like... you sure about that, bud? It’s a bit much to expect she would have survived.

The poor family is trying so hard to make her alive, they gloss right over what likely happened.

What the FBI agent said in the podcast:

The producer says: Let’s bring in an expert who is revisiting these events (Scientology women and yellow)”

Erin Sheridan, Special Agent with the DC office.

“I basically have been up in this office over 10 years, previous I worked down in the Caribbean in the San Juan division.

The biggest and most difficult thing is the timeline, with any type of case, and with this case as well.

You have statements from family and friends, of course from folks who were witnesses and you basically have to try and piece things together. The timeline is difficult especially because you’re in international waters and folks that don’t have the same time on their wrists because they are from all over the country and someone else is from another part of the country so the timelines are different.”

Ok, here is the rest from Agent Sheridan:

“There are definitely ways I would think of if that is what happened, whether someone goes off willingly you know back then they didn’t track when people exited, they only tracked when you entered back on.

You know when passengers come off these ships you have 2-3-4or 5 thousand people exit and go onto whatever island that may be, so if something nefarious occurred, whether she willingly went off possibly, if that was the situation, or she didn’t, which of course could have been the situation, there are ways, there are different exits, there are egress and things that definitely could have occurred...

But we can basically piece things together to figure out exactly what might have happened. That is why we are doing what we are doing, trying to make that timeline more narrow, you know, trying to make it so that that one piece of evidence or something someone may have that they don’t think is important may be important to us.

You had a young 23 year old woman who graduated, obviously from college and had her whole life ahead of her. She had a new job, apartment, dog a new puppy, planning her life, planning to go out you know into the world and make her way. And she goes on vacation, a cruise with her family, probably one of the last family vacations cruise because now she is getting older and Brad is getting older, a family trip to have fun, a family trip to celebrate and then that’s really the story there, the fact that she had everything.

Whatever exactly happened, we don’t know.

That is why it is extremely important or it is crucial for folks who were on that ship, for folks that might have been on that island that they come forward and they start to provide us with some information that could help the investigation.”

The poor family is trying so hard to make her alive, they gloss right over what likely happened.

*sigh*

Last night was the first time I saw the 2018 'Disappeared' episode about Amy. Other episodes of the series sometimes throw out many possible theories to family members and ask for their opinions on them. However, the falling overboard theory was never brought up to the Bradleys here and never covered.

Despite the fact that I'm 99% sure she fell overboard, this episode was hard to watch. The Bradley family is still clearly in agony.

An accidental death from falling overboard situation would be horrible for friends and family to deal with. The pain is always with you. But I would think that feeling she was abducted and sold in to sex slavery where her life would be on borrowed time would be a feeling that is ten times worse. That's the kind of pain that would make it nearly impossible to get out of bed every morning. If (GOD forbid) I was in their situation, I know which scenario would make it a little easier to go on with my life and it's not the one they're clinging to. Either scenario does not equal her being alive today.

My heart breaks for the Bradley family.

Last night was the first time I saw the 2018 'Disappeared' episode about Amy. Other episodes of the series sometimes throw out many possible theories to family members and ask for their opinions on them. However, the falling overboard theory was never brought up to the Bradleys here and never covered.

Wow, really? It wasn’t even so much as mentioned as a possibility? That’s completely irresponsible journalism IMO. That girl 100% fell overboard drunk that night. That family is never going to accept her death as being an accident and move on, it seems. 😟

Wow, really? It wasn’t even so much as mentioned as a possibility? That’s completely irresponsible journalism IMO. That girl 100% fell overboard drunk that night. That family is never going to accept her death as being an accident and move on, it seems. 😟

Or they tried and they freaked and it wasn't aired? Or maybe only agreed to do the show if they wouldn't give that theory any credence.

Or they tried and they freaked and it wasn't aired? Or maybe only agreed to do the show if they wouldn't give that theory any credence.

If that’s the case, then it’s actually a little hard to feel sorry for them. This case virtually screams, “Occam’s razor” at the top of its lungs.

Wow, really? It wasn’t even so much as mentioned as a possibility? That’s completely irresponsible journalism IMO. That girl 100% fell overboard drunk that night. That family is never going to accept her death as being an accident and move on, it seems. 😟
Unfortuantely you can't say for certain that she fell overboard drunk. It's not a fact that happened. What is a fact is that she's missing and there is no body. That's it. Anything else is opinions, possibilities, and speculation-not facts. Stating she fell overboard drunk isn't a fact.

I would love to know whether the family is in massive denial or they deliberately avoid that theory to add more drama. This case and Katherine Korzillus are the two where I feel bad for the family for wasting so much time and money chasing after ghosts.

Unfortuantely you can't say for certain that she fell overboard drunk. It's not a fact that happened. What is a fact is that she's missing and there is no body. That's it. Anything else is opinions, possibilities, and speculation-not facts. Stating she fell overboard drunk isn't a fact.
It's not a proven fact, but I think a few of us or more strongly believe that it did happen.

I would love to know whether the family is in massive denial or they deliberately avoid that theory to add more drama. This case and Katherine Korzillus are the two where I feel bad for the family for wasting so much time and money chasing after ghosts.
I think they are in denial about her falling overboard. It is strange that in the UM they open by instantly debunking the overboard theory by showing that she was afraid to go near the edge, but the last credible witness of her being alive was her father seeing her on the balcony.

*sigh*

Last night was the first time I saw the 2018 'Disappeared' episode about Amy. Other episodes of the series sometimes throw out many possible theories to family members and ask for their opinions on them. However, the falling overboard theory was never brought up to the Bradleys here and never covered.

Despite the fact that I'm 99% sure she fell overboard, this episode was hard to watch. The Bradley family is still clearly in agony.

An accidental death from falling overboard situation would be horrible for friends and family to deal with. The pain is always with you. But I would think that feeling she was abducted and sold in to sex slavery where her life would be on borrowed time would be a feeling that is ten times worse. That's the kind of pain that would make it nearly impossible to get out of bed every morning. If (GOD forbid) I was in their situation, I know which scenario would make it a little easier to go on with my life and it's not the one they're clinging to. Either scenario does not equal her being alive today.

My heart breaks for the Bradley family.
that's exactly how I feel. I thought the same things after watching the disappeared segment. for a show that usually takes its time to cover every scenario they leave that out? Also I found it strange that they mention that a body was found off the shore of curacao, but it was never analysed for comparison to Amy? I don't know if it is 100% true, but it does seem as if the family wants to consider the kidnapping scenario because that keeps Amy alive, but as you say it doesn't seem like a good life for her if that is what happened. nothing short of a miracle would lead to a happy ending here and I also feel for her family.

It's nice to see a bunch of people finally accepting Occam's Razor in this case instead of the ridiculous sex slavery theories that were thrown around for years.

It's not a proven fact, but I think a few of us or more strongly believe that it did happen.

Then why doesn't the family believe that??

I saw the Disappeared episode on ID that you guys have talked about. Has there been ANY update on this case since the Frank Jones sex scam 20 years ago??

And how do you explain that photo of Amy as a prostitute that looks so much like her??

For those who believe she did NOT fall overboard the how do you explain S2h2k2007's post below?? He/she has looked a lot into this case!

"I do not believe she fell overboard, the boat was preparing to dock and was extremely close to the shore. Amy was captain of the swim club and a trained lifeguard. Also, at this time in the morning people were surely up and would have heard something, the surrounding waters were checked."

I saw the Disappeared episode on ID that you guys have talked about. Has there been ANY update on this case since the Frank Jones sex scam 20 years ago??

And how do you explain that photo of Amy as a prostitute that looks so much like her??

Yes, there was a supposed sighting of her in San Francisco in 2003 & another one in the Caribbean in 2005-although they are both highly dubious.

People bear a resemblance to other people, it doesn't mean they are the same person.

For those who believe she did NOT fall overboard the how do you explain S2h2k2007's post below?? He/she has looked a lot into this case!

"I do not believe she fell overboard, the boat was preparing to dock and was extremely close to the shore. Amy was captain of the swim club and a trained lifeguard. Also, at this time in the morning people were surely up and would have heard something, the surrounding waters were checked."

Being captain of the swim club is not remotely comparable to falling from a great height from a cruise ship into the an ocean when you have certainly spent hours drinking alcohol, possibly taking narcotics & have no life-jacket. You are assuming that Amy would have been awake when she hit the water-the fall alone could have knocked her out cold, she could have hit a rock or something else under the water. Even if she was conscious then her screams could have been mistaken for partying-it was a cruise where the main aim of the younger people was too get loaded & have a good time, or it could have been that nobody was around to hear her as they were either all asleep in their cabins or still partying.

Even if she was conscious then her screams could have been mistaken for partying-it was a cruise where the main aim of the younger people was too get loaded & have a good time, or it could have been that nobody was around to hear her as they were either all asleep in their cabins or still partying.
That's not to mention that the incident happened around 6am. I checked the sunrise/sunset data for this area and the would have been dark until about 6:30am at that time of year: highly unlikely anybody would have seen anything and with the noise of partying unlikely any screams would have been heard.

I do admit I have to chuckle a bit in the wikipedia article where it said investigators had 'no evidence' she fell aboard or committed suicide. Have they ever heard of Occam's Razor?? I do understand a number of people claim to have spotted her in the months and years afterward but then I think of cases like Lisa Kimmel where witnesses are 100% sure they saw her.... after she was killed. Even if the sighting by the US navy guy in the brothel was legitimate I could just as easily be someone trying to get into the USA by impersonating a citizen after reading about Amy's story in the newspaper.

I'm glad this case shines a light on the disgusting practice of human trafficking but the simplest explaination is still the best.

That's not to mention that the incident happened around 6am. I checked the sunrise/sunset data for this area and the would have been dark until about 6:30am at that time of year: highly unlikely anybody would have seen anything and with the noise of partying unlikely any screams would have been heard.

I do admit I have to chuckle a bit in the wikipedia article where it said investigators had 'no evidence' she fell aboard or committed suicide. Have they ever heard of Occam's Razor?? I do understand a number of people claim to have spotted her in the months and years afterward but then I think of cases like Lisa Kimmel where witnesses are 100% sure they saw her.... after she was killed. Even if the sighting by the US navy guy in the brothel was legitimate I could just as easily be someone trying to get into the USA by impersonating a citizen after reading about Amy's story in the newspaper.

I'm glad this case shines a light on the disgusting practice of human trafficking but the simplest explaination is still the best.

Problem with Wikipedia is anybody can alter it-from the Bradley family to the persons who have managed to shut down pretty much every thread about her on every crime website & Reddit with their nonsense. Sure there is no evidence she went overboard, but equally there is no confirmed evidence pointing towards her being trafficked either.

For those who believe she did NOT fall overboard the how do you explain S2h2k2007's post below?? He/she has looked a lot into this case!

"I do not believe she fell overboard, the boat was preparing to dock and was extremely close to the shore. Amy was captain of the swim club and a trained lifeguard. Also, at this time in the morning people were surely up and would have heard something, the surrounding waters were checked."

If she were already unconscious when she fell from the ship (which is my theory at this point), being captain of the swim team was not going to help her.

I sincerely feel for this family-- I do. But I believe she was intoxicated to the point of incapacitation, leaned over the ship to vomit, passed out, and fell overboard.

I was just browsing reddit and noticed someone actually brought up my Titanic theory. A number of people thought it was ridiculous, one mentioned how it was impossible since it was months after the movie came out and one even went so far that it is "disrespectful" to her and her family to even entertain the ridiculous Titanic theory. :confused:

What is it with this case that so few people will believe wild conspiracy theories but suggesting a young drunk woman was acting like a young drunk woman is absurd.

My only question is why is this case still open with the FBI?

Then why doesn't the family believe that??
I’ve posted my thoughts on this already as early as the last few pages. Feel free to go back and read them. I do feel for her family.

I was just browsing reddit and noticed someone actually brought up my Titanic theory. A number of people thought it was ridiculous, one mentioned how it was impossible since it was months after the movie came out and one even went so far that it is "disrespectful" to her and her family to even entertain the ridiculous Titanic theory. :confused:

What is it with this case that so few people will believe wild conspiracy theories but suggesting a young drunk woman was acting like a young drunk woman is absurd.

My only question is why is this case still open with the FBI?
I think the witness leads and the familiy’s urgency to find amy as well as the media coverage keeps pressure on the fbi to continue to listen. Although it does not seem that they are particularly active. I think what we’ve seen in this case like many others, eye witness testimony is not very reliable and pictures or videos of people that look like someone are a dime a dozen.

Being captain of the swim club is not remotely comparable to falling from a great height from a cruise ship into the an ocean when you have certainly spent hours drinking alcohol, possibly taking narcotics & have no life-jacket. You are assuming that Amy would have been awake when she hit the water-the fall alone could have knocked her out cold, she could have hit a rock or something else under the water. Even if she was conscious then her screams could have been mistaken for partying-it was a cruise where the main aim of the younger people was too get loaded & have a good time, or it could have been that nobody was around to hear her as they were either all asleep in their cabins or still partying.

But the waters were checked & they were very close to shore. IF Amy fell so close to shore she would've most likely been found.

I was just browsing reddit and noticed someone actually brought up my Titanic theory. A number of people thought it was ridiculous, one mentioned how it was impossible since it was months after the movie came out and one even went so far that it is "disrespectful" to her and her family to even entertain the ridiculous Titanic theory. :confused:

What is it with this case that so few people will believe wild conspiracy theories but suggesting a young drunk woman was acting like a young drunk woman is absurd.

My only question is why is this case still open with the FBI?

Titanic theory?? The ship didn't hit an iceberg.

But the waters were checked & they were very close to shore. IF Amy fell so close to shore she would've most likely been found.

Tell that to Arnold Archambeau and Ruby Bruguier.

I think the witness leads and the familiy’s urgency to find amy as well as the media coverage keeps pressure on the fbi to continue to listen. Although it does not seem that they are particularly active. I think what we’ve seen in this case like many others, eye witness testimony is not very reliable and pictures or videos of people that look like someone are a dime a dozen.

But if the evidence is so strong that she fell overboard then why hasn't the FBI closed the case by now??

But if the evidence is so strong that she fell overboard then why hasn't the FBI closed the case by now??
You are asking a question to my post that was a response to that same question.

Tell that to Arnold Archambeau and Ruby Bruguier.
Ah well played. I was going to respond with ocean current but that’s so much better.

But if the evidence is so strong that she fell overboard then why hasn't the FBI closed the case by now??

Cases remain open until a body has been found, or the person turns up alive.

Titanic theory?? The ship didn't hit an iceberg.
My theory was that she was reenacting the famous scene from the movie where Jack holds up Rose (the "I'm Flying" scene). The movie came out a few months before this incident and for years afterwards I saw a number of very much sober people getting way too close to the edge of a boat railing pretending to reenact that scene: just imagine what a young drunk person might have done. I still think she just plain fell over accidently likely while vomiting but I don't think my theory is either crazy or insulting to the family: certainly a lot more logical than the cruise ship having a sex trafficking ring.

I believe she was murdered by Yellow or some other guy she met. She was drunk, the guy wanted sex, she said no, she raped and killed her. Then, he disposed of her in a bag, big box, etc, as some kind of "lugagge".

But I dont rule out the human trafficking theory as some sort of conspiracy garbage. There have always been human trafficking and people with a lot of money willing to pay for a sick fantasy. Yes, Amy didnt look as a top model, she was good looking, but tomboyish. But remember that there are sickos with a lot of fantasies. Also, I have read that there are people who would pay to be with a "missing person", its weird to understand for normal people, but sickos dont have rules and limits.

But I believe it was Yellow....she never jumped, she never was abducted, just murdered inside the ship.Of course family would not accept that because it means she's deceased.