View Full Version : Segments where the motive seems to be really nonsensical or bizarre?


Toni-Cipriani
03-04-2018, 11:45 PM
What are some of the cases you've come across in which the motive is just too strange for words? For me, the Zip Gun Bomber is certainly close to one of the strangest cases I've seen

Corkys-Place
03-05-2018, 01:35 AM
Probably the Dick Hansen shooting as none of us know or probably never will know the true motive for such a senseless killing.

Cori aka ChrisSCrush
03-05-2018, 02:39 AM
No sense could be made of the Unabomber as he was frickin' crazy.

Fletch
03-05-2018, 04:04 AM
Probably the Dick Hansen shooting as none of us know or probably never will know the true motive for such a senseless killing.

I’d say that’s about as great an example as any, especially if the motive was in regards to one’s hatred toward a sports team.

ramirez412001
03-05-2018, 06:17 AM
I’d say that’s about as great an example as any, especially if the motive was in regards to one’s hatred toward a sports team.

Which is why the Patriots give Tom Brady an armed motorcade if he travels outside the sacred six. :happyface

ramirez412001
03-05-2018, 06:18 AM
In all seriousness....Beverly McGowan and Dwayne McCorkendale.

RobinW
03-05-2018, 08:24 AM
I've always been baffled about Gary Krueger's motive for the murder of Mike Emert. We'll never know the truth since Krueger is now dead, but he concocted an elaborate ruse and went to a lot of trouble to murder a person he seemingly had no connection with.

TheCars1986
03-05-2018, 08:35 AM
I've always been baffled about Gary Krueger's motive for the murder of Mike Emert. We'll never know the truth since Krueger is now dead, but he concocted an elaborate ruse and went to a lot of trouble to murder a person he seemingly had no connection with.

Ditto for David Merrifield, Gary Simmons, and Jack Brown.

dynoguy88
03-05-2018, 10:48 AM
Even though he was captured long ago, I researched online last year the Joe Weldon Smith court documents just to find some kind of a motive.

All I could find was his nephew mentioning that Joe once told him the worst thing a man can do is get married and have a family.

But that's a pretty weak excuse for bludgeoning your wife and step daughters to death while they sleep.

schmave
03-05-2018, 11:04 AM
Dick Hansen was the first one that popped to mind for me.

asmitty
03-05-2018, 02:17 PM
The disappearance of Pam Page. UM presented no evidence to hint at any unhappiness or issues in their marriage. Other than his story changing and having inconsistencies, there is little or no reason to believe that her husband, Rob, had anything to do with her disappearance other than the spouse always being the most likely suspect.

This one has always stuck out in my mind because I'm on the fence about Rob's guilt.

Huskerz85
03-05-2018, 03:17 PM
The Gainsville Spree Killers

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Gainesville_Killers

Jon
03-05-2018, 03:25 PM
Freakbook pointed out that it makes no sense that Adam Hecht's sudden interest in the homeless was from a sense of caring or out of nobility, as it was presented in the segment. He was probably trying to score drugs and his family either didn't know about it, or did not want the public knowing about it.

dynoguy88
03-05-2018, 03:36 PM
The Gainsville Spree Killers

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Gainesville_Killers

Oh, that's a perfect example. I'd like to know in particular what those boys lives were like. There's so many questions over why they decided to do what they did.

Killing several strangers and decapitating a woman with an ax in front of her two year old child? There are no words.

MegtheEgg86
03-05-2018, 04:52 PM
First case I thought of was Jack Brown.

"Carol", the lady shot in the face in Connecticut, is another.

freakbook
03-05-2018, 07:04 PM
"Carol", the lady shot in the face in Connecticut, is another.

+1.

Now theres no excusing what this scum did, but I wonder if this was a case of road rage? She said he was inching slowly, so I wonder if she was honking and possibly cussing and he snapped?

Very strange

dynoguy88
03-05-2018, 09:18 PM
+1.

Now theres no excusing what this scum did, but I wonder if this was a case of road rage? She said he was inching slowly, so I wonder if she was honking and possibly cussing and he snapped?

Very strange

It was a combination of inching slowly, constantly speeding up and slowing down, crossing the center lane as if out of control and then immediately pulling back. If someone were driving like that in front of me, my first thought would be this person is drunk.

But you also have to take in to account the witness sightings reported on that same road an hour before the shooting of a black pickup truck pulling on and off the road taunting other motorists.

If this is the same man, I don't think that's a guy that snapped from an angry driver behind him. He's simply a d*ck with a gun.

MegtheEgg86
03-05-2018, 09:51 PM
That one always seemed to me like someone with a mental issue, whether an actual illness or under the influence of some substance.

In any event, it's still scary all these many years later.

freakbook
03-05-2018, 10:01 PM
It was a combination of inching slowly, constantly speeding up and slowing down, crossing the center lane as if out of control and then immediately pulling back. If someone were driving like that in front of me, my first thought would be this person is drunk.

But you also have to take in to account the witness sightings reported on that same road an hour before the shooting of a black pickup truck pulling on and off the road taunting other motorists.

If this is the same man, I don't think that's a guy that snapped from an angry driver behind him. He's simply a d*ck with a gun.

Wow, I thought the witness sightings were after the shooting. Yeah this dude was drunk/high, or as Meg said had some serious issues.

I do wonder if something went wrong in his life and he snapped. Maybe a cheating gf or something. Bizarre.

dynoguy88
03-05-2018, 10:20 PM
I do wonder if something went wrong in his life and he snapped. Maybe a cheating gf or something. Bizarre.

I would honestly love to know that myself. Sometimes I wonder if after he shot Carol, he simply drove home to his wife and kid(s). There are so many possibilities.

A bright note on this case, "Carol" seems to have gone on to have a happy life despite the ordeal. I've done some investigating online and found out that she is happily married with two healthy daughters, now adults. She has a great career and is surrounded by many close friends. She's doing great.

amandab1234
03-05-2018, 10:25 PM
The Circleville Letters. Seems like a bit too much over an affair with a bus driver & superintendent

MegtheEgg86
03-05-2018, 10:43 PM
Bruno and Bobo.

Seriously, **** whoever did that.

WishfulDreamer
03-05-2018, 11:02 PM
Bruno and Bobo.

Seriously, **** whoever did that.
Agreed! That happened in my hometown, and I can't watch this segment because it really upsets me. Same for the Nevada Wild Horse Killing segment.

You can still hear the sea lions at night, and I haven't heard any recent report of attacks on them, thankfully.

amandab1234
03-05-2018, 11:07 PM
Bruno and Bobo.

Seriously, **** whoever did that.


lm thankful this segment is one that is almost never shown. This is the one that got to me aside from the dog kennel burning

freakbook
03-05-2018, 11:11 PM
I would honestly love to know that myself. Sometimes I wonder if after he shot Carol, he simply drove home to his wife and kid(s). There are so many possibilities.

A bright note on this case, "Carol" seems to have gone on to have a happy life despite the ordeal. I've done some investigating online and found out that she is happily married with two healthy daughters, now adults. She has a great career and is surrounded by many close friends. She's doing great.

That's great to hear. I'm glad she was able to move on from such a tragic event and life a good life.

I'll add Las Cruces Bowling Alley massacre to the list. Everyone complied, WTF was the point at shooting at a bunch of children? And I don't think I've ever heard of too many bowling alleys getting robbed.

There had to have been something else going on behind the scenes. That made no sense at all.

unsolved243
03-05-2018, 11:49 PM
Roger Dean. Was Roger in on it? Was it a robbery gone wrong? Was the extortionist the same person as the killer? It's just such a bizarre case and there doesn't seem to be a clear motive.

Father Reynaldo Rivera. There doesn't seem to be any reason for him to be killed. At least in Father Kerrigan's case, it seems like he was killed in retaliation for sexual abuse. However, there's no evidence of that in Rivera's case. It seems like they just killed him for being a priest.

Michael Hunter. There seems to be absolutely no motive or evidence at all in his case. He was just shot while riding his bike. The only possible motive would be someone wanting to take his bike.

Thiussat
03-06-2018, 02:16 AM
Bruno and Bobo.

Seriously, **** whoever did that.

Or the lady in Missouri who had a farm where she took in stray dogs. Someone came and killed a couple of her dogs one night. A short while later, the perp came back and burned her kennel to the ground, killing 60 dogs. Dude left graffiti complaining about the noise, but she was a mile away from the nearest neighbor.

**** whoever did that, too.

TheCars1986
03-06-2018, 09:38 AM
What about the killers of the wild horses in Nevada? Was a potential motive ever thrown into that segment?

Mike82
03-06-2018, 10:45 AM
How about Lucie Turmel? She was not only robbed but brutally murdered all for about 2 days pay just so he could 'flash cash' at a family reunion?!? What's worse is that the killer, Ryan Love is not only free but doing great. I would "love" to see a lightning bolt strike him. :mad:

freakbook
03-06-2018, 11:40 AM
The two oil field workers who bodies were found by Ed Bakers burnt vehicle. Coincidence or connected? Always found that weird

bell83
03-06-2018, 11:53 AM
You can still hear the sea lions at night

Tell me, WishfulDreamer...have the sea lions stopped screaming?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KQzlLEISR_8/TK5H0tfqDtI/AAAAAAAABmk/4W7VrAw2-gQ/s1600/silenceofthelambs.jpg


Sorry....I couldn't resist. The sea lion one p***ed me off.

Also, +1 for the person(s) who burned the kennel. That one was just terrible.

justins5256
03-06-2018, 11:56 AM
How about Cindy James? Or the Wackers? Even if you don't believe there was an assailant in either case, it's pretty hard to fathom someone "harassing" themselves.

bell83
03-06-2018, 12:09 PM
Father Reynaldo Rivera. There doesn't seem to be any reason for him to be killed. At least in Father Kerrigan's case, it seems like he was killed in retaliation for sexual abuse. However, there's no evidence of that in Rivera's case. It seems like they just killed him for being a priest.

In the segment, they said that another priest was called, but he said he couldn't go. He didn't have his glasses or something, if I remember right, and said to call back in fifteen minutes and they could send someone else, which ended up being Rivera. My thought on that was that perhaps the first priest that was called was the actual target, but that the person had developed a hatred of all priests (maybe victimization by several different ones?) and figured one priest was just as good as another for a target?

Just my own wild ass theory...

dynoguy88
03-06-2018, 12:43 PM
Bruno and Bobo.

Seriously, **** whoever did that.

Agree.

A sad side note that UM didn't mention in regards to Bruno is that he had a chance to be saved. He lived for almost two months after being shot. Marine life specialists were called to help him, but no one could capture him since he no longer trusted humans. And since his wounds went untreated, he eventually died.

freakbook
03-06-2018, 12:53 PM
The gold sweating magic rock named Katie.

How dey do dat?

Janel "Jaycee" Miller
03-06-2018, 02:32 PM
How about the murder of Trooper John Martin? I don't think a motive was ever established for that killing, was there?

Huskerz85
03-06-2018, 03:52 PM
lm thankful this segment is one that is almost never shown. This is the one that got to me aside from the dog kennel burning

Same here. That dog kennel one is somewhere in seasons 1-3 on Amazon, forget where, but I always FF past it.

TheCars1986
03-06-2018, 04:04 PM
How about the murder of Trooper John Martin? I don't think a motive was ever established for that killing, was there?

I believe this (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=187571&page=2) thread has the best possible motive: Mills and his cronies were hanging out in a pharmacy parking lot late at night, and this aroused Martin's suspicions, so when Martin approached the car, Mills freaked out and shot him and then fled. I found this (https://mylifeofcrime.wordpress.com/2006/07/23/john-lee-martin-murder-11788/) information out as to what led to his capture, and it's pretty interesting.

Todd Mueller
03-06-2018, 04:12 PM
How about Cindy James? Or the Wackers? Even if you don't believe there was an assailant in either case, it's pretty hard to fathom someone "harassing" themselves.

This isn't that hard to believe. There have been lots of documented cases of this type of behavior. Quite simply, they do it for the attention and/or sympathy. I think in Cindy's case, she had some serious mental illness, quite possibly the result of PTSD.

As for the Whackers, I don't know why but I'm sure they did it for the attention. It got them on TV, didn't it? :lol:

In all seriousness, this sadly isn't that rare.

Jon
03-06-2018, 06:51 PM
This isn't that hard to believe. There have been lots of documented cases of this type of behavior. Quite simply, they do it for the attention and/or sympathy. I think in Cindy's case, she had some serious mental illness, quite possibly the result of PTSD.

As for the Whackers, I don't know why but I'm sure they did it for the attention. It got them on TV, didn't it? :lol:

In all seriousness, this sadly isn't that rare.

Absolutely agree. It makes me think of Munchausen Syndrome, which is a form of mental illness. Self-inflicted harassment or feigned illness obviously make no sense, but in these cases we're not dealing with rational minds.

WishfulDreamer
03-06-2018, 10:14 PM
Tell me, WishfulDreamer...have the sea lions stopped screaming?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KQzlLEISR_8/TK5H0tfqDtI/AAAAAAAABmk/4W7VrAw2-gQ/s1600/silenceofthelambs.jpg


Sorry....I couldn't resist.
:lol: No worries, that's one of my favorite films!


The sea lion one p***ed me off.

Also, +1 for the person(s) who burned the kennel. That one was just terrible.
I agree. That's another on my "Don't Watch" list :( Just the thought of those poor animals suffering for no reason. It's a real shame the perpetrator(s) wasn't caught.

dynoguy88
03-07-2018, 10:42 AM
Jay Durham

There's a special place in hell for that trucker. I've sometimes heard this case compared to the Stephanie Booker case. But there's one major difference. While the boat driver was a coward and chose only to save himself, there's no evidence that he intentionally set out to injure the three women. He was just being stupid and careless.

The trucker on the other hand, saw Jay clinging to the front of his truck and sped up in order to impale him against another truck. The intent was obvious.

Terrible that neither case has been solved.

RobinW
03-08-2018, 01:18 AM
I always wished Joe Owens had been captured alive to get more insight into his motive for killing Gladys. Yes, he was clearly a miserable old bastard and it was an unhappy marriage, but I've always wondered what would compel a 70-year old man with no criminal record to suddenly decide to murder his wife after being with her four decades.

schmave
03-08-2018, 03:15 PM
Jay Durham

There's a special place in hell for that trucker. I've sometimes heard this case compared to the Stephanie Booker case. But there's one major difference. While the boat driver was a coward and chose only to save himself, there's no evidence that he intentionally set out to injure the three women. He was just being stupid and careless.

The trucker on the other hand, saw Jay clinging to the front of his truck and sped up in order to impale him against another truck. The intent was obvious.

Terrible that neither case has been solved.

Obviously the driver was a sick POS and your theory is very plausible, but talk about pointless and stupid ... the guy rammed Jay Durham, then wanted to wreck his own truck and smash between the two? Not that the trucker was in his right mind, because he clearly was not.

scarfish
03-09-2018, 05:47 AM
David Hurley
Rohry wychgel
Dwayne mccorkendale
Adam emery
Ethel Kidd
Susan Harrison

Hmm quite a few

TheCars1986
03-09-2018, 07:57 AM
Moses Lall and Lila Buerattan

If the motive was most likely money, it seems to me that exotic birds would be really hard to sell to actually turn a profit. Plus the segment says that more expensive birds were left behind. Just a weird all around segment.

dynoguy88
03-09-2018, 12:58 PM
Obviously the driver was a sick POS and your theory is very plausible, but talk about pointless and stupid ... the guy rammed Jay Durham, then wanted to wreck his own truck and smash between the two? Not that the trucker was in his right mind, because he clearly was not.

It's incredibly disturbing. There was absolutely nothing to be gained by doing this. It just looks like he saw a motorcyclist and decided to kill him.

He could never use the excuse that it was an accident because he made no attempt to slow down or pull over once Jay was clinging to life on the front of his truck. He sped up. Pure evil.