View Full Version : Anybody else DISLIKE the differences between Stack and Dennis re-broadcasts?
johnnyangel 01-08-2018, 12:25 PM :mad:
I am sure this has been posted multiple times before, but I notice A LOT of little changes and nuances with the re-edits and re-broadcasts.
- Certain little parts of many episodes strangely edited out (this may be a moot point to the casual viewer, but I never liked whoever did this or approved this). Just leave it as it was and have Dennis re-narrate!
(I can understand sometimes this being done to perhaps compensate for time needed for "updates" to the old episodes, but still).
- Changes in certain sinister music parts.
- COMPLETE ERRORS during their edits. One main example was the Son of Sam part II episode. "This..is the face of John Carr....and these are some of the composites done of the Son of Sam Killer(s). Many experts believe there is a similarity between these composites...and John Carr..."
(I sat side by side with my computer (Dennis version) and the original Robert Stack version. SOMEBODY PUT ONE OF THE WRONG COMPOSITE DRAWINGS in for the CARR segment part! ) Again to the average viewer they might not have even noticed!
Anybody else have any other opinions on this whole thing? :o
AriadneHaze 01-08-2018, 01:00 PM :mad:
I am sure this has been posted multiple times before, but I notice A LOT of little changes and nuances with the re-edits and re-broadcasts.
- Certain little parts of many episodes strangely edited out (this may be a moot point to the casual viewer, but I never liked whoever did this or approved this). Just leave it as it was and have Dennis re-narrate!
(I can understand sometimes this being done to perhaps compensate for time needed for "updates" to the old episodes, but still).
- Changes in certain sinister music parts.
- COMPLETE ERRORS during their edits. One main example was the Son of Sam part II episode. "This..is the face of John Carr....and these are some of the composites done of the Son of Sam Killer(s). Many experts believe there is a similarity between these composites...and John Carr..."
(I sat side by side with my computer (Dennis version) and the original Robert Stack version. SOMEBODY PUT ONE OF THE WRONG COMPOSITE DRAWINGS in for the CARR segment part! ) Again to the average viewer they might not have even noticed!
Anybody else have any other opinions on this whole thing? :o
Dennis Farina died in 2013, so...
freakbook 01-08-2018, 01:21 PM Someone should just make a Farina hate thread and sticky it.
drew790 01-08-2018, 02:44 PM I can't watch it. It's not Unsolved Mysteries to me. The Farina version can eff off as far as I'm concerned.
AriadneHaze 01-08-2018, 02:56 PM I can't watch it. It's not Unsolved Mysteries to me. The Farina can eff off as far as I'm concerned.
Exactly. I loved him in Crime Story when I was a kid, but I can't handle him on UM.
James T 01-08-2018, 02:59 PM Farina was fine, just the whole Spike production/direction sucked. But of course they were marketing it as a filler to a male audience waiting for machine guns, extreme monster trucks & bikini babes, not to the audience NBC were.
drew790 01-08-2018, 03:04 PM Yes, that's what I meant to say. I fixed the word I missed. Dennis Farina did a fine enough job with the show the producers and network decided to make. But that show is garbage IMO.
Give me some Robert Stack-era UM, or some Bill Kurtis / Paul Wingfield 90s-era A&E crime documentaries any day over these cold Farina UMs, 48 Hours , Crime Watch Daily-esq shows. Or the silly Investigation Discovery shows.
justins5256 01-08-2018, 03:12 PM Is it 2008?
Is it 2008?
If you have investments, let's hope not.
everybodylovesrs 01-08-2018, 05:10 PM i hated on Farina plenty but decided he wasn't the problem. It was Cosgrove. and not even really their fault either, that's what Spike wanted and Cosgrove wanted money.
wiseguy182 01-08-2018, 05:23 PM This thread is awesome.
bell83 01-08-2018, 05:24 PM If you have investments, let's hope not.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
bell83 01-08-2018, 05:31 PM i hated on Farina plenty but decided he wasn't the problem. It was Cosgrove. and not even really their fault either, that's what Spike wanted and Cosgrove wanted money.
It was unfortunate. I like Farina, and I think he would've been a fine host/narrator. Not as good as RS, obviously, but who else could be (until we figure out how to raise the dead or clone people)? The biggest problem was the formatting. It was an atrocity. And the blame lies with Spike and CM.
drew790 01-08-2018, 07:46 PM Even their official social media accounts are all about The Stack.
sdb4884 01-08-2018, 09:12 PM We don’t talk about the Farina episodes
Corkys-Place 01-08-2018, 09:30 PM Dennis Farina died in 2013, so...
Has it been that long already? :confused:
drew790 01-08-2018, 11:26 PM We don’t talk about the Farina episodes
I don't even see there to be a reason to now. My understanding always was that all they did was repackage the original segments, not that they produced any original content unless I'm wrong there. When no one was playing the originals sure, one could settle, but now the real version is back available. Bye Spike.
sdb4884 01-09-2018, 12:42 AM Yeah it was a complete waste of time, I went in watching it thinking it would be new stories but it was just a rehash. I remember Farina saying something like "We don't do that on this show". Mate it was never your show, you can take your star trek set and Google Earth's with you thank you very much.
wiseguy182 01-09-2018, 07:29 AM I agree with the last two posters. If you're going to do re-do something, put a new spin on it to make it different, don't do just a re-hash. Had the new version done some new interviews, gave some more information, something to make it separate from the original, then it would have been more worthwhile. Rehashing the same things is just a waste of everyone's time.
Jediknight1823 01-09-2018, 08:14 AM If you have investments, let's hope not.
On the other hand, it's time to make some bets. Also, invest in Mike Trout, Clayton Kershaw, and Jose Altuve rookie cards. And autograph cards of Michael Jordan and LeBron in their pro uniforms.
schmave 01-22-2018, 03:56 PM Farina was fine, just the whole Spike production/direction sucked. But of course they were marketing it as a filler to a male audience waiting for machine guns, extreme monster trucks & bikini babes, not to the audience NBC were.
This. The re-dos were awful. Dates were even taken out of most cases so as to avoid telling the viewer exactly how old the cases were and that they were all retreads. I don't hold any of that against the late Dennis Farina.
mtaylor72 01-22-2018, 07:07 PM This. The re-dos were awful. Dates were even taken out of most cases so as to avoid telling the viewer exactly how old the cases were and that they were all retreads. I don't hold any of that against the late Dennis Farina.
Them hiding the dates is what I hated the most. And they really went out of their way to hide/withhold them, too. I mentioned this a few times on here, but in many segments that featured home videos with a date/timestamp, they would actually blur out the date on the video. All one has to do is is go and watch the Farina version of the Jaclyn Dowaliby segment and you'll see what I mean.
But if they showed a segment like Roswell or DB Cooper, they had no problem revealing the exact dates. Their logic was idiotic. They seemed to think people weren't smart enough to realize that most of these segments are 20+ years old. Anyone can easily determine that these cases weren't recent (even in 2008) just by looking at the glasses, hairstyles, and clothing the people involved had.
drew790 01-24-2018, 11:44 PM They seemed to think people weren't smart enough to realize that most of these segments are 20+ years old.
The audience was Spike viewers though ...
everybodylovesrs 02-04-2018, 12:06 PM It was unfortunate. I like Farina, and I think he would've been a fine host/narrator. Not as good as RS, obviously, but who else could be (until we figure out how to raise the dead or clone people)? The biggest problem was the formatting. It was an atrocity. And the blame lies with Spike and CM.
I watched a Farina ep recently. It wasn't as bad as I thought . Yes, I miss the dates and them cutting things out and no new cases and blah blah, but it was still watchable and Farina did a great job. I was just biased against it because I liked the original.
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