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TMC
11-29-2017, 09:37 PM
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For the past 76 years, TV viewers have watched the lives of various characters from the comfort of our homes. We followed their stories from week to week; sometimes we laughed with them, sometimes we worried about them. For the shows that stuck around, the main thing was that we could, in some way, relate to them.

The world has changed a lot in recent years. Many of the things that were just fine back in 1941 when TV shows got their start would cause uproars today, and many of the things that we do today would be a scandal in 1941.

When we look at how the world has changed, one aspect is what kinds of characters we see on TV now. We can look back at the classic TV characters of the past and know that if they appeared on a show today, Twitter would just about explode with angry tweets and calls for cancellations.

Which characters would cause such commotion? Well, here are 15 Controversial Characters Who Would Never Be Allowed On TV Today.

15. ARCHIE BUNKER (ALL IN THE FAMILY)

Created by TV icon Norman Lear, Archie Bunker – the main character of All in the Family – was designed to be despised by the audience. Lear’s intent was to shine a light on the bigotry that was so rampant in the country at the time (and sadly, is still all too evident today), and to do that he chose to focus his show on a middle-class New York family.

For Lear, Archie was a parody of right-wing bigotry – he has his creation spout foul things about any race that wasn’t white as well as misquoting the Bible and mispronouncing simple words to show off the idiocy of Archie. What happened instead was that audiences found the character endearing and felt he echoed their own opinions.

In today’s world, Archie would likely have the effect that Lear intended, but the show would never even make it to air.

14. AL BUNDY (MARRIED… WITH CHILDREN)

When Married… with Children first began to air on Fox in 1986, it was almost instantly a hotbed for controversy. Both liberals and conservatives had issues with the characters, most notably Al Bundy.

Bundy was a shoe salesman who today would almost certainly be a Men’s Rights Activist releasing poorly framed videos on YouTube about his personal group, No Ma’am (National Organization of Men Against Amazonian Masterhood). While the character and series did stir up a fair amount of debate when it aired, most people saw the show for what it was – like All in the Family some 20 years earlier, Married… with Children was not trying to make Al look heroic.

Still, with the way the series constantly used women as little more than props in short skirts and crop tops, as well as the off-color jokes (usually at the expense of people who were overweight or women who weren’t attractive), there’s no way a network would go near it today.

13. KLINGER (M*A*S*H)

When M*A*S*H was turned into a TV series, the show took the setting of the Korean War that was established in the movie and used it to comment on the then-current Vietnam War without being so obvious about it that people would get upset. It worked; the show ran for eleven years.

One character created for the series, Sergeant Maxwell Q. Klinger, was a fan favorite. Klinger had no interest in being in a war, and he was doing everything he could to get sent home early, including cross-dressing. Klinger’s thought was that if he could prove to the army that he was crazy, they would discharge him, and his best way for people to think he was crazy was to dress like a woman.

If this were tried today, you can bet that people wouldn’t find it as funny as they did in 1972. The transgender community would rightly look at Klinger as an insult.

12. BO AND LUKE DUKE (DUKES OF HAZZARD)

There are few TV shows that have had the cultural impact of The Dukes of Hazzard. While the show may be about cousins Bo and Luke Duke, what people really remember are two things – the General Lee and Daisy Duke.

Daisy Duke’s style was so iconic that her name is still connected to super short shorts, and the General Lee is one of the most recognizable cars in the world. These days, there no way Bo and Luke would be able to drive around in their orange 1969 Dodge Charger.

Along with the controversy, the name of their car would cause today the giant Confederate flag painted on the roof would not go over well today. Even the 2005 movie made mention of this, with the Duke boys feeling a lot of angry stares as they drove through Atlanta.

11. IT’S PAT! (SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE)

Created by Julia Sweeney on Saturday Night Live, the character of Pat, an androgynous person whose gender everyone is trying to figure out, was such a hit with viewers that the one joke skit was turned into a movie.

Sweeney came up with the character when she was trying to do an imitation of a co-worker back when she was an accountant. Her co-workers thought it was funny, but that she wasn’t convincing as a man. Sweeney decided to take the imitation and add in the question of the character’s gender as part of the gag.

Today, a character like Pat, who along with being androgynous had characteristics that are often signs of autism, likely wouldn’t make it out of dress rehearsal at SNL, if it even got that far.

10. LISA (WEIRD SCIENCE)

Based on the hit John Hughes movie, the Weird Science TV series followed the same basic plot – high school pals Wyatt and Gary use a computer to create a beautiful woman named Lisa. Lisa has magic powers and can pretty much make anything that Gary and Wyatt want happen. Episodes generally had the two boys wanting something, Lisa creating it, and then everything going horribly wrong with plenty of hijinks to make the audience laugh.

The series ran for five seasons on the USA network, becoming one of the first successful cable shows that wasn’t on HBO. It also turned star Vanessa Angel into a late ’90s sex symbol. Today’s audiences may not be as open to the idea of a show where two teen boys create a woman and keep her as their magic slave.

9. NORM (CHEERS)

Cheers is one of the most iconic TV shows to have ever existed. The series followed the day to day lives of a group of guys who all but lived in a Boston bar. The characters were all losers, from a washed-up pitcher looking to regain some of his fame to a mail carrier who lived with his mom, viewers loved them all because they were relatable in so many ways.

Arguably the most loved character was Norm Peterson. In a show with a theme song that exclaimed “you wanna go where everybody knows your name” Norm was the proof of that – in just about every episode when Peterson walks into Cheers, everyone at the bar calls his name.

But would Norm be such a beloved character today? He was, after all, an alcoholic drank the days away while complaining about his wife and being a jerk to his best friend.

8. OVERLY CONFIDENT GAY MAN (IN LIVING COLOR)

When Keenen Ivory Wayans created In Living Color, the sketch series was praised for its diverse cast. Wayans had built a show filled with people of color, giving them a chance to show off their own skills, while Saturday Night Live was filled with young white guys making jokes for young white guys.

Though In Living Color was a boom to many careers, there is no doubt that Jim Carrey is the biggest name to come out of the show, but one of his best-remembered characters wouldn’t be so well received today.

Every Overly Confident Gay Man skit had the same idea – Carrey was a gay man who constantly told people he was gay. That was the whole joke – people were annoyed at how proud Carrey was to be gay.

7. SERGEANT SCHULTZ (HOGAN’S HEROES)

World War II, which saw millions of innocent Jewish people murdered in concentration camps, ended on September 2, 1945. Twenty years later, on September 17, 1965, Hogan’s Heroes premiered on CBS.

The show, about a group of US soldiers being held in a POW camp during WWII, was a sitcom. The idea of that alone – making a sitcom about such a brutal war while people who lived through it were still very much alive – is pretty shocking, but one of the characters is even more shocking by today’s standards.

Sergeant Schultz was a Nazi who worked at the POW camp. The character, played by John Banner (an Austrian-born Jewish man who moved to the US when Hitler annexed Austria) wasn’t played serious. He wasn’t a danger to the heroes of the series. No, he was a joke. In fact, he was a lovable character.

The idea of a TV show existing today that features a lovable Nazi who tortures Americans seems too insane to comprehend.

6. DAN FIELDING (NIGHT COURT)

While the show has faded away over the years, Night Court was one of the biggest sitcoms on TV in the 1980s, right up until it was canceled without getting a finale.

The show, about a judge, two lawyers, and a few other wacky characters who worked nights in a New York courthouse, was edgy for its time – the show reveled in the seediness of Manhattan, and viewers loved it.

One character people really liked was the narcissistic and sex-addicted prosecutor Dan Fielding. Dan, played by John Larroquette, was ostensibly the bad guy on the show. He would prosecute the prostitutes one moment, then request their services the next. He wasn’t very nice to his fellow night court co-workers either, often making fun of their looks or sexually harassing them.

Today, a character like Dan wouldn’t be played or looked at as lovable.

5. HOWLING MAD MURDOCK (A-TEAM)

The A-Team was one of the biggest shows of the 1980s. The series followed four men – all wanted for a crime they didn’t commit – as they traveled around the continental United States helping people deal with problems that could only be fixed by blowing up stuff and fighting guys in denim and flannel.

One of the members of the A-Team was Captain H. M. “Howling Mad” Murdock. As a helicopter pilot in Vietnam, Murdock was declared insane (today it would be from PTSD but in the ’80s that idea didn’t exist) and spends much of his time in an asylum. The rest of the A-Team breaks Murdock out when they have a job to do, but otherwise, they’re happy to leave him in the home.

Today, a character like Murdock wouldn’t be used as comic relief. His PTSD would be considered a serious issue – as it should be.

4. RICKY RICARDO (I LOVE LUCY)

When I Love Lucy first aired, the show was very progressive for its time. Sure, Lucy and Ricky slept in separate beds, but the idea of a mixed-race marriage being on the biggest show on TV in the early 1950s seems almost impossible to believe when you consider just how much of America was against mixed race marriages at the time.

That didn’t stop the character of Ricky Ricardo from being, by today’s standards, very stereotypical. Ricky, a Cuban came to America in search of a singing career, was played by Desi Arnaz, a Cuban who came to America looking for a singing career. In the show, much of the comedy came from Ricky’s reactions to his wife’s antics. He would scream at her in Spanish and sometimes mix up his English.

While much of this was based on the real-life marriage of Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz, today audiences would find Ricky Ricardo to be a little too stereotypical.

3. AMOS ‘N’ ANDY (THE AMOS ‘N’ ANDY SHOW)

Amos ‘n’ Andy started off as a radio show on WMAQ in Chicago. The show, which focused on two African American men who lived in Harlem, was a big hit, leading it to become the first syndicated program in radio. The show was such a hit that Hollywood came calling, and soon enough Amos ‘n’ Andy started appearing in their own movies.

For many people, the movies were the first time they saw Amos and Andy, and they quickly learned that the two black men on the radio were actually two white men – Charles Correll and Freeman Gosden. For the movies, Correll and Gosden performed in blackface.

By the time Amos ‘n’ Andy came to TV in 1951, the idea of two white guys performing in blackface wasn’t going to go over well, so the parts were recast. Still, the basic concept of the show – two easily fooled men speaking in a minstrel show cadence – stayed the same. The “humor” of the show was just plain racism.

2. RALPH KRAMDEN (THE HONEYMOONERS)

While it lasted just 37 episodes, The Honeymooners is one of the best-remembered TV shows in history. The lives of Ralph Kramden, his wife Alice, and their best friends the Nortons set up pretty much every sitcom trope that still exists today.

Overall, the show could still work today – a poor husband and wife try to make ends meet while the husband keeps coming up with get rich quick schemes or falls into other sorts of trouble. The Simpsons has been using this format for nearly 30 years now.

Where the trouble comes in with today’s audiences is Ralph’s temper. Part of the comedy of The Honeymooners is Ralph’s constant boiling rage and how quick he is to scream and yell. Sure, by the end of each episode Ralph has apologized for his behavior, but would today’s audiences be okay Ralph’s constant threats of violence against his wife?

1. JOE JITSU (THE DICK TRACY SHOW)

In 1960, famed newspaper comic strip detective Dick Tracy was given his very own cartoon. Along with the crime-stopper in the yellow trench coat were some newly created sidekicks for the kids to laugh along with.

One of these new characters was Joe Jitsu, an Asian crime fighter who would have his own five-minute adventure every episode. Joe Jitsu was an instant hit with the kids because in the early ’60s, kids loved racist caricatures and boy howdy, was Joe Jitsu one racist caricature.

Along with his look, which is enough to make us shudder, Joe Jitsu had a number of catchphrases which made fun of the most basic of Asian stereotypes. He would say things like “So solly!” and “Excuse, prease!” while beating up criminals.

Today, a character like this would never make it onto a show, animated or otherwise. Thank goodness for that.

Edward216
11-29-2017, 11:06 PM
Wait, what? Weird Science was made into a TV series that lasted 5 seasons? I had absolutely no idea.

Ed.

principehomura
11-30-2017, 04:37 AM
Lol, we don't have anymore characters like these ones because of political correctness, yet we are full of shows glorifying murderers and drug dealers :rolleyes:

WilliamHBonney
12-02-2017, 05:39 AM
Some of these art not true

15.Archie Bunker -I'd say Eric Cartman is pretty much a modern day Archie Bunker

12-Bo and Luke Duke- The charecter's wouldn't be controversial,their car though would never fly on most networks

9-Norm on Cheers
The trope of fat guy who hates spending time with wife and or kid's but would never leave still exists. It will probably still exist sitcoms 100 years from now.


6-John Larroquette from Night Court-Honestly seem's like he would fit in with the kind of sociopathic charecters on It's Always Sunny/Seinfeld and similiar shows


And obvious thing's like Hogan's Heroes and Mash existed when a lot of public were people who went to war or had family who fought in Korea,Nam or WW2 so the writers knew how to handle comedic material from these conflicts in a way that was both relatable and not offensive to the sensitiives of those who fought in combat. There was 1 sitcom on Fox called Enlisted a few years ago but they put it on the Friday night death slot,the series was actually pretty good so I guess you can set a show in the military that is humorous. It might be hard to get a large audience though since there are a lot less vet's and military families then their were 30-40 +years ago.

icecream
12-02-2017, 01:06 PM
9-Norm on Cheers
The trope of fat guy who hates spending time with wife and or kid's but would never leave still exists. It will probably still exist sitcoms 100 years from now.
Norm is the most ridiculous name on the author's list. There are still plenty of alcoholics today, if anything heavy drinking has become even more acceptable. And unlike some who can have a temper, Norm was an easygoing guy everyone could get along with.

Babalu
12-02-2017, 05:00 PM
We've managed to create a whole generation of people who are more traumatized by wars than the people who actually fought in the wars were.


Ah, the snowflakes.

But if really want to see them traumatized watch clips of them the night Hillary lost. :lol:

mets82
12-02-2017, 05:23 PM
Ralph Kramden, Al Bundy, Ricky Ricardo?? Are you kidding me?

jimpickens
12-03-2017, 02:34 AM
Dan Fielding already exists in the form of Glen Quagmire

TMC
12-03-2017, 03:33 AM
Some of these art not true

15.Archie Bunker -I'd say Eric Cartman is pretty much a modern day Archie Bunker

12-Bo and Luke Duke- The charecter's wouldn't be controversial,their car though would never fly on most networks

9-Norm on Cheers
The trope of fat guy who hates spending time with wife and or kid's but would never leave still exists. It will probably still exist sitcoms 100 years from now.


6-John Larroquette from Night Court-Honestly seem's like he would fit in with the kind of sociopathic charecters on It's Always Sunny/Seinfeld and similiar shows


And obvious thing's like Hogan's Heroes and Mash existed when a lot of public were people who went to war or had family who fought in Korea,Nam or WW2 so the writers knew how to handle comedic material from these conflicts in a way that was both relatable and not offensive to the sensitiives of those who fought in combat. There was 1 sitcom on Fox called Enlisted a few years ago but they put it on the Friday night death slot,the series was actually pretty good so I guess you can set a show in the military that is humorous. It might be hard to get a large audience though since there are a lot less vet's and military families then their were 30-40 +years ago.

Tim Allen thought that he was making a modern day Archie Bunker on Last Man Standing, but seem to want to make it like we were supposed to laugh with Archie instead of laugh at him.

TMC
12-03-2017, 03:35 AM
Ralph Kramden, Al Bundy, Ricky Ricardo?? Are you kidding me?

The article clearly pointed out that Ralph Kramden threatening to hit his wife being played for laughs (and without any hint of irony) wouldn't work today.

TMC
12-03-2017, 03:41 AM
Wait, what? Weird Science was made into a TV series that lasted 5 seasons? I had absolutely no idea.

Ed.

Yeah, it aired on the USA Network (usually on Saturday nights if I remember correctly alongside Duckman) from 1994-98. Vanessa Angel played the Kelly LeBrock role on the TV series. Honestly, I consider Lisa from Weird Science to be a variant of the Manic Pixie Dream Girl (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ManicPixieDreamGirl) trope. But because said MPDG in this case, is a bombshell in the guise of a magical genie (Weird Science in that regard, could be looked at as a more bawdy, '80s, teen-centric version of I Dream of Jeannie) the "politically correct" may look at the premise on face value as being sexist.

BigManMike
12-03-2017, 09:33 AM
Can someone post this without the spoilers? It won’t show up on my phone when I highlight it.

yankeesrj12
12-10-2017, 02:07 PM
Norm is the most ridiculous name on the author's list. There are still plenty of alcoholics today, if anything heavy drinking has become even more acceptable. And unlike some who can have a temper, Norm was an easygoing guy everyone could get along with.
Agreed. I recently watched the series on Netflix for the first time and had zero problem with Norm.

bgva
12-10-2017, 06:10 PM
Of course this becomes a political thread, as if both sides don't have easily-offended people who look for things to complain about nowadays.

PhoenixAcres
12-10-2017, 06:35 PM
Can someone post this without the spoilers? It won’t show up on my phone when I highlight it.
Here you go. I don't know why it was put in a spoiler box to begin with.

15. ARCHIE BUNKER (ALL IN THE FAMILY)



Created by TV icon Norman Lear, Archie Bunker – the main character of All in the Family – was designed to be despised by the audience. Lear’s intent was to shine a light on the bigotry that was so rampant in the country at the time (and sadly, is still all too evident today), and to do that he chose to focus his show on a middle-class New York family.



For Lear, Archie was a parody of right-wing bigotry – he has his creation spout foul things about any race that wasn’t white as well as misquoting the Bible and mispronouncing simple words to show off the idiocy of Archie. What happened instead was that audiences found the character endearing and felt he echoed their own opinions.



In today’s world, Archie would likely have the effect that Lear intended, but the show would never even make it to air.



14. AL BUNDY (MARRIED… WITH CHILDREN)



When Married… with Children first began to air on Fox in 1986, it was almost instantly a hotbed for controversy. Both liberals and conservatives had issues with the characters, most notably Al Bundy.



Bundy was a shoe salesman who today would almost certainly be a Men’s Rights Activist releasing poorly framed videos on YouTube about his personal group, No Ma’am (National Organization of Men Against Amazonian Masterhood). While the character and series did stir up a fair amount of debate when it aired, most people saw the show for what it was – like All in the Family some 20 years earlier, Married… with Children was not trying to make Al look heroic.



Still, with the way the series constantly used women as little more than props in short skirts and crop tops, as well as the off-color jokes (usually at the expense of people who were overweight or women who weren’t attractive), there’s no way a network would go near it today.



13. KLINGER (M*A*S*H)



When M*A*S*H was turned into a TV series, the show took the setting of the Korean War that was established in the movie and used it to comment on the then-current Vietnam War without being so obvious about it that people would get upset. It worked; the show ran for eleven years.



One character created for the series, Sergeant Maxwell Q. Klinger, was a fan favorite. Klinger had no interest in being in a war, and he was doing everything he could to get sent home early, including cross-dressing. Klinger’s thought was that if he could prove to the army that he was crazy, they would discharge him, and his best way for people to think he was crazy was to dress like a woman.



If this were tried today, you can bet that people wouldn’t find it as funny as they did in 1972. The transgender community would rightly look at Klinger as an insult.



12. BO AND LUKE DUKE (DUKES OF HAZZARD)



There are few TV shows that have had the cultural impact of The Dukes of Hazzard. While the show may be about cousins Bo and Luke Duke, what people really remember are two things – the General Lee and Daisy Duke.



Daisy Duke’s style was so iconic that her name is still connected to super short shorts, and the General Lee is one of the most recognizable cars in the world. These days, there no way Bo and Luke would be able to drive around in their orange 1969 Dodge Charger.



Along with the controversy, the name of their car would cause today the giant Confederate flag painted on the roof would not go over well today. Even the 2005 movie made mention of this, with the Duke boys feeling a lot of angry stares as they drove through Atlanta.



11. IT’S PAT! (SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE)



Created by Julia Sweeney on Saturday Night Live, the character of Pat, an androgynous person whose gender everyone is trying to figure out, was such a hit with viewers that the one joke skit was turned into a movie.



Sweeney came up with the character when she was trying to do an imitation of a co-worker back when she was an accountant. Her co-workers thought it was funny, but that she wasn’t convincing as a man. Sweeney decided to take the imitation and add in the question of the character’s gender as part of the gag.



Today, a character like Pat, who along with being androgynous had characteristics that are often signs of autism, likely wouldn’t make it out of dress rehearsal at SNL, if it even got that far.



10. LISA (WEIRD SCIENCE)



Based on the hit John Hughes movie, the Weird Science TV series followed the same basic plot – high school pals Wyatt and Gary use a computer to create a beautiful woman named Lisa. Lisa has magic powers and can pretty much make anything that Gary and Wyatt want happen. Episodes generally had the two boys wanting something, Lisa creating it, and then everything going horribly wrong with plenty of hijinks to make the audience laugh.



The series ran for five seasons on the USA network, becoming one of the first successful cable shows that wasn’t on HBO. It also turned star Vanessa Angel into a late ’90s sex symbol. Today’s audiences may not be as open to the idea of a show where two teen boys create a woman and keep her as their magic slave.



9. NORM (CHEERS)



Cheers is one of the most iconic TV shows to have ever existed. The series followed the day to day lives of a group of guys who all but lived in a Boston bar. The characters were all losers, from a washed-up pitcher looking to regain some of his fame to a mail carrier who lived with his mom, viewers loved them all because they were relatable in so many ways.



Arguably the most loved character was Norm Peterson. In a show with a theme song that exclaimed “you wanna go where everybody knows your name” Norm was the proof of that – in just about every episode when Peterson walks into Cheers, everyone at the bar calls his name.



But would Norm be such a beloved character today? He was, after all, an alcoholic drank the days away while complaining about his wife and being a jerk to his best friend.



8. OVERLY CONFIDENT GAY MAN (IN LIVING COLOR)



When Keenen Ivory Wayans created In Living Color, the sketch series was praised for its diverse cast. Wayans had built a show filled with people of color, giving them a chance to show off their own skills, while Saturday Night Live was filled with young white guys making jokes for young white guys.



Though In Living Color was a boom to many careers, there is no doubt that Jim Carrey is the biggest name to come out of the show, but one of his best-remembered characters wouldn’t be so well received today.



Every Overly Confident Gay Man skit had the same idea – Carrey was a gay man who constantly told people he was gay. That was the whole joke – people were annoyed at how proud Carrey was to be gay.



7. SERGEANT SCHULTZ (HOGAN’S HEROES)



World War II, which saw millions of innocent Jewish people murdered in concentration camps, ended on September 2, 1945. Twenty years later, on September 17, 1965, Hogan’s Heroes premiered on CBS.



The show, about a group of US soldiers being held in a POW camp during WWII, was a sitcom. The idea of that alone – making a sitcom about such a brutal war while people who lived through it were still very much alive – is pretty shocking, but one of the characters is even more shocking by today’s standards.



Sergeant Schultz was a Nazi who worked at the POW camp. The character, played by John Banner (an Austrian-born Jewish man who moved to the US when Hitler annexed Austria) wasn’t played serious. He wasn’t a danger to the heroes of the series. No, he was a joke. In fact, he was a lovable character.



The idea of a TV show existing today that features a lovable Nazi who tortures Americans seems too insane to comprehend.



6. DAN FIELDING (NIGHT COURT)



While the show has faded away over the years, Night Court was one of the biggest sitcoms on TV in the 1980s, right up until it was canceled without getting a finale.



The show, about a judge, two lawyers, and a few other wacky characters who worked nights in a New York courthouse, was edgy for its time – the show reveled in the seediness of Manhattan, and viewers loved it.



One character people really liked was the narcissistic and sex-addicted prosecutor Dan Fielding. Dan, played by John Larroquette, was ostensibly the bad guy on the show. He would prosecute the prostitutes one moment, then request their services the next. He wasn’t very nice to his fellow night court co-workers either, often making fun of their looks or sexually harassing them.



Today, a character like Dan wouldn’t be played or looked at as lovable.



5. HOWLING MAD MURDOCK (A-TEAM)



The A-Team was one of the biggest shows of the 1980s. The series followed four men – all wanted for a crime they didn’t commit – as they traveled around the continental United States helping people deal with problems that could only be fixed by blowing up stuff and fighting guys in denim and flannel.



One of the members of the A-Team was Captain H. M. “Howling Mad” Murdock. As a helicopter pilot in Vietnam, Murdock was declared insane (today it would be from PTSD but in the ’80s that idea didn’t exist) and spends much of his time in an asylum. The rest of the A-Team breaks Murdock out when they have a job to do, but otherwise, they’re happy to leave him in the home.



Today, a character like Murdock wouldn’t be used as comic relief. His PTSD would be considered a serious issue – as it should be.



4. RICKY RICARDO (I LOVE LUCY)



When I Love Lucy first aired, the show was very progressive for its time. Sure, Lucy and Ricky slept in separate beds, but the idea of a mixed-race marriage being on the biggest show on TV in the early 1950s seems almost impossible to believe when you consider just how much of America was against mixed race marriages at the time.



That didn’t stop the character of Ricky Ricardo from being, by today’s standards, very stereotypical. Ricky, a Cuban came to America in search of a singing career, was played by Desi Arnaz, a Cuban who came to America looking for a singing career. In the show, much of the comedy came from Ricky’s reactions to his wife’s antics. He would scream at her in Spanish and sometimes mix up his English.



While much of this was based on the real-life marriage of Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz, today audiences would find Ricky Ricardo to be a little too stereotypical.



3. AMOS ‘N’ ANDY (THE AMOS ‘N’ ANDY SHOW)



Amos ‘n’ Andy started off as a radio show on WMAQ in Chicago. The show, which focused on two African American men who lived in Harlem, was a big hit, leading it to become the first syndicated program in radio. The show was such a hit that Hollywood came calling, and soon enough Amos ‘n’ Andy started appearing in their own movies.



For many people, the movies were the first time they saw Amos and Andy, and they quickly learned that the two black men on the radio were actually two white men – Charles Correll and Freeman Gosden. For the movies, Correll and Gosden performed in blackface.



By the time Amos ‘n’ Andy came to TV in 1951, the idea of two white guys performing in blackface wasn’t going to go over well, so the parts were recast. Still, the basic concept of the show – two easily fooled men speaking in a minstrel show cadence – stayed the same. The “humor” of the show was just plain racism.



2. RALPH KRAMDEN (THE HONEYMOONERS)



While it lasted just 37 episodes, The Honeymooners is one of the best-remembered TV shows in history. The lives of Ralph Kramden, his wife Alice, and their best friends the Nortons set up pretty much every sitcom trope that still exists today.



Overall, the show could still work today – a poor husband and wife try to make ends meet while the husband keeps coming up with get rich quick schemes or falls into other sorts of trouble. The Simpsons has been using this format for nearly 30 years now.



Where the trouble comes in with today’s audiences is Ralph’s temper. Part of the comedy of The Honeymooners is Ralph’s constant boiling rage and how quick he is to scream and yell. Sure, by the end of each episode Ralph has apologized for his behavior, but would today’s audiences be okay Ralph’s constant threats of violence against his wife?



1. JOE JITSU (THE DICK TRACY SHOW)



In 1960, famed newspaper comic strip detective Dick Tracy was given his very own cartoon. Along with the crime-stopper in the yellow trench coat were some newly created sidekicks for the kids to laugh along with.



One of these new characters was Joe Jitsu, an Asian crime fighter who would have his own five-minute adventure every episode. Joe Jitsu was an instant hit with the kids because in the early ’60s, kids loved racist caricatures and boy howdy, was Joe Jitsu one racist caricature.



Along with his look, which is enough to make us shudder, Joe Jitsu had a number of catchphrases which made fun of the most basic of Asian stereotypes. He would say things like “So solly!” and “Excuse, prease!” while beating up criminals.



Today, a character like this would never make it onto a show, animated or otherwise. Thank goodness for that.

Dale Key
12-10-2017, 07:07 PM
Al Bundy for President!



I'm just kidding, if someone moved in next door and had that bumper sticker on their truck I would move.

TMC
12-16-2017, 06:47 AM
Can someone post this without the spoilers? It won’t show up on my phone when I highlight it.

15. ARCHIE BUNKER (ALL IN THE FAMILY)

Created by TV icon Norman Lear, Archie Bunker – the main character of All in the Family – was designed to be despised by the audience. Lear’s intent was to shine a light on the bigotry that was so rampant in the country at the time (and sadly, is still all too evident today), and to do that he chose to focus his show on a middle-class New York family.

For Lear, Archie was a parody of right-wing bigotry – he has his creation spout foul things about any race that wasn’t white as well as misquoting the Bible and mispronouncing simple words to show off the idiocy of Archie. What happened instead was that audiences found the character endearing and felt he echoed their own opinions.

In today’s world, Archie would likely have the effect that Lear intended, but the show would never even make it to air.

14. AL BUNDY (MARRIED… WITH CHILDREN)

When Married… with Children first began to air on Fox in 1986, it was almost instantly a hotbed for controversy. Both liberals and conservatives had issues with the characters, most notably Al Bundy.

Bundy was a shoe salesman who today would almost certainly be a Men’s Rights Activist releasing poorly framed videos on YouTube about his personal group, No Ma’am (National Organization of Men Against Amazonian Masterhood). While the character and series did stir up a fair amount of debate when it aired, most people saw the show for what it was – like All in the Family some 20 years earlier, Married… with Children was not trying to make Al look heroic.

Still, with the way the series constantly used women as little more than props in short skirts and crop tops, as well as the off-color jokes (usually at the expense of people who were overweight or women who weren’t attractive), there’s no way a network would go near it today.

13. KLINGER (M*A*S*H)

When M*A*S*H was turned into a TV series, the show took the setting of the Korean War that was established in the movie and used it to comment on the then-current Vietnam War without being so obvious about it that people would get upset. It worked; the show ran for eleven years.

One character created for the series, Sergeant Maxwell Q. Klinger, was a fan favorite. Klinger had no interest in being in a war, and he was doing everything he could to get sent home early, including cross-dressing. Klinger’s thought was that if he could prove to the army that he was crazy, they would discharge him, and his best way for people to think he was crazy was to dress like a woman.

If this were tried today, you can bet that people wouldn’t find it as funny as they did in 1972. The transgender community would rightly look at Klinger as an insult.

12. BO AND LUKE DUKE (DUKES OF HAZZARD)

There are few TV shows that have had the cultural impact of The Dukes of Hazzard. While the show may be about cousins Bo and Luke Duke, what people really remember are two things – the General Lee and Daisy Duke.

Daisy Duke’s style was so iconic that her name is still connected to super short shorts, and the General Lee is one of the most recognizable cars in the world. These days, there no way Bo and Luke would be able to drive around in their orange 1969 Dodge Charger.

Along with the controversy, the name of their car would cause today the giant Confederate flag painted on the roof would not go over well today. Even the 2005 movie made mention of this, with the Duke boys feeling a lot of angry stares as they drove through Atlanta.

11. IT’S PAT! (SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE)

Created by Julia Sweeney on Saturday Night Live, the character of Pat, an androgynous person whose gender everyone is trying to figure out, was such a hit with viewers that the one joke skit was turned into a movie.

Sweeney came up with the character when she was trying to do an imitation of a co-worker back when she was an accountant. Her co-workers thought it was funny, but that she wasn’t convincing as a man. Sweeney decided to take the imitation and add in the question of the character’s gender as part of the gag.

Today, a character like Pat, who along with being androgynous had characteristics that are often signs of autism, likely wouldn’t make it out of dress rehearsal at SNL, if it even got that far.

10. LISA (WEIRD SCIENCE)

Based on the hit John Hughes movie, the Weird Science TV series followed the same basic plot – high school pals Wyatt and Gary use a computer to create a beautiful woman named Lisa. Lisa has magic powers and can pretty much make anything that Gary and Wyatt want happen. Episodes generally had the two boys wanting something, Lisa creating it, and then everything going horribly wrong with plenty of hijinks to make the audience laugh.

The series ran for five seasons on the USA network, becoming one of the first successful cable shows that wasn’t on HBO. It also turned star Vanessa Angel into a late ’90s sex symbol. Today’s audiences may not be as open to the idea of a show where two teen boys create a woman and keep her as their magic slave.

9. NORM (CHEERS)

Cheers is one of the most iconic TV shows to have ever existed. The series followed the day to day lives of a group of guys who all but lived in a Boston bar. The characters were all losers, from a washed-up pitcher looking to regain some of his fame to a mail carrier who lived with his mom, viewers loved them all because they were relatable in so many ways.

Arguably the most loved character was Norm Peterson. In a show with a theme song that exclaimed “you wanna go where everybody knows your name” Norm was the proof of that – in just about every episode when Peterson walks into Cheers, everyone at the bar calls his name.

But would Norm be such a beloved character today? He was, after all, an alcoholic drank the days away while complaining about his wife and being a jerk to his best friend.

8. OVERLY CONFIDENT GAY MAN (IN LIVING COLOR)

When Keenen Ivory Wayans created In Living Color, the sketch series was praised for its diverse cast. Wayans had built a show filled with people of color, giving them a chance to show off their own skills, while Saturday Night Live was filled with young white guys making jokes for young white guys.

Though In Living Color was a boom to many careers, there is no doubt that Jim Carrey is the biggest name to come out of the show, but one of his best-remembered characters wouldn’t be so well received today.

Every Overly Confident Gay Man skit had the same idea – Carrey was a gay man who constantly told people he was gay. That was the whole joke – people were annoyed at how proud Carrey was to be gay.

7. SERGEANT SCHULTZ (HOGAN’S HEROES)

World War II, which saw millions of innocent Jewish people murdered in concentration camps, ended on September 2, 1945. Twenty years later, on September 17, 1965, Hogan’s Heroes premiered on CBS.

The show, about a group of US soldiers being held in a POW camp during WWII, was a sitcom. The idea of that alone – making a sitcom about such a brutal war while people who lived through it were still very much alive – is pretty shocking, but one of the characters is even more shocking by today’s standards.

Sergeant Schultz was a Nazi who worked at the POW camp. The character, played by John Banner (an Austrian-born Jewish man who moved to the US when Hitler annexed Austria) wasn’t played serious. He wasn’t a danger to the heroes of the series. No, he was a joke. In fact, he was a lovable character.

The idea of a TV show existing today that features a lovable Nazi who tortures Americans seems too insane to comprehend.

6. DAN FIELDING (NIGHT COURT)

While the show has faded away over the years, Night Court was one of the biggest sitcoms on TV in the 1980s, right up until it was canceled without getting a finale.

The show, about a judge, two lawyers, and a few other wacky characters who worked nights in a New York courthouse, was edgy for its time – the show reveled in the seediness of Manhattan, and viewers loved it.

One character people really liked was the narcissistic and sex-addicted prosecutor Dan Fielding. Dan, played by John Larroquette, was ostensibly the bad guy on the show. He would prosecute the prostitutes one moment, then request their services the next. He wasn’t very nice to his fellow night court co-workers either, often making fun of their looks or sexually harassing them.

Today, a character like Dan wouldn’t be played or looked at as lovable.

5. HOWLING MAD MURDOCK (A-TEAM)

The A-Team was one of the biggest shows of the 1980s. The series followed four men – all wanted for a crime they didn’t commit – as they traveled around the continental United States helping people deal with problems that could only be fixed by blowing up stuff and fighting guys in denim and flannel.

One of the members of the A-Team was Captain H. M. “Howling Mad” Murdock. As a helicopter pilot in Vietnam, Murdock was declared insane (today it would be from PTSD but in the ’80s that idea didn’t exist) and spends much of his time in an asylum. The rest of the A-Team breaks Murdock out when they have a job to do, but otherwise, they’re happy to leave him in the home.

Today, a character like Murdock wouldn’t be used as comic relief. His PTSD would be considered a serious issue – as it should be.

4. RICKY RICARDO (I LOVE LUCY)

When I Love Lucy first aired, the show was very progressive for its time. Sure, Lucy and Ricky slept in separate beds, but the idea of a mixed-race marriage being on the biggest show on TV in the early 1950s seems almost impossible to believe when you consider just how much of America was against mixed race marriages at the time.

That didn’t stop the character of Ricky Ricardo from being, by today’s standards, very stereotypical. Ricky, a Cuban came to America in search of a singing career, was played by Desi Arnaz, a Cuban who came to America looking for a singing career. In the show, much of the comedy came from Ricky’s reactions to his wife’s antics. He would scream at her in Spanish and sometimes mix up his English.

While much of this was based on the real-life marriage of Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz, today audiences would find Ricky Ricardo to be a little too stereotypical.

3. AMOS ‘N’ ANDY (THE AMOS ‘N’ ANDY SHOW)

Amos ‘n’ Andy started off as a radio show on WMAQ in Chicago. The show, which focused on two African American men who lived in Harlem, was a big hit, leading it to become the first syndicated program in radio. The show was such a hit that Hollywood came calling, and soon enough Amos ‘n’ Andy started appearing in their own movies.

For many people, the movies were the first time they saw Amos and Andy, and they quickly learned that the two black men on the radio were actually two white men – Charles Correll and Freeman Gosden. For the movies, Correll and Gosden performed in blackface.

By the time Amos ‘n’ Andy came to TV in 1951, the idea of two white guys performing in blackface wasn’t going to go over well, so the parts were recast. Still, the basic concept of the show – two easily fooled men speaking in a minstrel show cadence – stayed the same. The “humor” of the show was just plain racism.

2. RALPH KRAMDEN (THE HONEYMOONERS)

While it lasted just 37 episodes, The Honeymooners is one of the best-remembered TV shows in history. The lives of Ralph Kramden, his wife Alice, and their best friends the Nortons set up pretty much every sitcom trope that still exists today.

Overall, the show could still work today – a poor husband and wife try to make ends meet while the husband keeps coming up with get rich quick schemes or falls into other sorts of trouble. The Simpsons has been using this format for nearly 30 years now.

Where the trouble comes in with today’s audiences is Ralph’s temper. Part of the comedy of The Honeymooners is Ralph’s constant boiling rage and how quick he is to scream and yell. Sure, by the end of each episode Ralph has apologized for his behavior, but would today’s audiences be okay Ralph’s constant threats of violence against his wife?

1. JOE JITSU (THE DICK TRACY SHOW)

In 1960, famed newspaper comic strip detective Dick Tracy was given his very own cartoon. Along with the crime-stopper in the yellow trench coat were some newly created sidekicks for the kids to laugh along with.

One of these new characters was Joe Jitsu, an Asian crime fighter who would have his own five-minute adventure every episode. Joe Jitsu was an instant hit with the kids because in the early ’60s, kids loved racist caricatures and boy howdy, was Joe Jitsu one racist caricature.

Along with his look, which is enough to make us shudder, Joe Jitsu had a number of catchphrases which made fun of the most basic of Asian stereotypes. He would say things like “So solly!” and “Excuse, prease!” while beating up criminals.

Today, a character like this would never make it onto a show, animated or otherwise. Thank goodness for that.

Yong Fang
12-17-2017, 04:43 AM
I don't think it would be easy to pinpoint characters that wouldn't work anymore, but themes or language that would not be allowed anymore.

On Sanford and Son, The Jeffersons, Good Times and All in the Family the word "n-word" was used. As a matter of fact, my all time favorite episode of Sanford and Son, "Fred, Legal Eagle" asked a (white) cop in the courtroom why doesn't he arrest white people? The cop defends himself that he does and Fred then retorts "Well, where are they then? There is enough n-words in here to make a Tarzan movie!" Probably got the biggest laugh on that show in their six seasons. Racial stuff is out unless it is portrayed negatively. (Even this message board edits out the so called n-word so as to not offend people).

Homosexuality wouldn't be played up for laughs, like the effeminate gay character who makes the straight male characters uncomfortable around them. There was a side character used in both Sanford and Son and Barney Miller who played that character. Just wouldn't be allowed anymore. I am not sure that Beverly the transvestite woman would be allowed on All In the Family.

Norman Lear wouldn't be able to sell a script of his stuff if he were new in Hollywood now. He really rode a good wave in the 1970's and was one of the right people who was born at the right time. 2010's Lear would be homophobic, racist, sexist. Wouldn't make it.

Hogan's Heroes would have never made it on the air now either. Sort of surprised Jewish groups didn't get mad at CBS when the show was first on, except that all the main Nazis were played by Jewish people. But still, I doubt this show would make it now. Speaking of Jewish guys, Don Rickles if he were a young and unknown comic, wouldn't make it even on a local comedy club amateur night with his classic act. Back to not wanting to "offend" people.

What is nice now in many ways is that there are a lot more networks and studios putting out product that doesn't have to conform to the morality and tastes of the majority of the public of what is offensive or not. I think that people are much more offended and fail to celebrate on the one hand or have a discussion and a meeting of differences of people.

Babalu
12-17-2017, 07:38 AM
I don't think it would be easy to pinpoint characters that wouldn't work anymore, but themes or language that would not be allowed anymore.

On Sanford and Son, The Jeffersons, Good Times and All in the Family the word "n-word" was used. As a matter of fact, my all time favorite episode of Sanford and Son, "Fred, Legal Eagle" asked a (white) cop in the courtroom why doesn't he arrest white people? The cop defends himself that he does and Fred then retorts "Well, where are they then? There is enough n-words in here to make a Tarzan movie!" Probably got the biggest laugh on that show in their six seasons. Racial stuff is out unless it is portrayed negatively. (Even this message board edits out the so called n-word so as to not offend people).

Homosexuality wouldn't be played up for laughs, like the effeminate gay character who makes the straight male characters uncomfortable around them. There was a side character used in both Sanford and Son and Barney Miller who played that character. Just wouldn't be allowed anymore. I am not sure that Beverly the transvestite woman would be allowed on All In the Family.

Norman Lear wouldn't be able to sell a script of his stuff if he were new in Hollywood now. He really rode a good wave in the 1970's and was one of the right people who was born at the right time. 2010's Lear would be homophobic, racist, sexist. Wouldn't make it.

Hogan's Heroes would have never made it on the air now either. Sort of surprised Jewish groups didn't get mad at CBS when the show was first on, except that all the main Nazis were played by Jewish people. But still, I doubt this show would make it now. Speaking of Jewish guys, Don Rickles wouldn't make it even on a local comedy club amateur night with his classic act. Back to not wanting to "offend" people.

What is nice now in many ways is that there are a lot more networks and studios putting out product that doesn't have to conform to the morality and tastes of the majority of the public of what is offensive or not. I think that people are much more offended and fail to celebrate on the one hand or have a discussion and a meeting of differences of people.


I disagree with the last part. Virtually everything now is total and complete PC. Straight white males are the victim of every joke or violent act in movies, TV, or commercials. In one of my favorite movies from the 1970's, The Poseidon Adventure, a small band of survivors of an ocean liner shipwreck travel through the ship to eventually be rescued. There are two couples in the party. Both wives die while both husbands survive. That would never happen today. Everything has to go by the PC book or it doesn't get made. That's why today's entertainment is unwatchable and I stick to the old stuff.

stevea
12-17-2017, 09:17 AM
Another thing that wouldn't make it today is the Burns and Allen Show. The idea of a woman who says dumb things just would not fly. The closest we come to it, in modern times, is the Suite Life of Zack and Cody on Disney. This had a dumb hotel heiress, London Tipton, a parody of Paris Hilton. She was a Gracie Allen-type, and even this, debuting over 10 years ago, would probably not fly today.

Yong Fang
12-18-2017, 04:21 AM
I abhor Married With Children. Everyone has a classic, icon show that they hated, and MWC was it. Ironically liked all the main actors, but I find the show depressing, mean and insulting.

What is non PC about Norm Peterson? He is really an everyman. I am a lot like him. I even had a mailman friend, except he was a forever grad student from Iceland. I am overweight, love beer and have my particular spot in the bar I like. A lot of men over forty has similar attributes, even today. They don't like their job, love their spouse, but find them to be a pain, drinks too much (and I only remember Norm really drunk once.

Coffeecup
12-19-2017, 06:25 PM
I have been watching Gunsmoke the early years and every episode someone is killed. I remember as a child seeing glimpses of the show and feeling so sad that people had to die of gunshots.Also a lot drinking goes on at the Longbranch saloon. Doc, Chester, Kitty and Matt all do a lot of drinking. It was decades before I saw the show again.