View Full Version : Oh, No! Not THEM! (1989) Unaired Pilot


jeff1990
10-25-2017, 12:12 AM
This is probably one of the rarest and most hard to find pilots out there. Oh, No Not Them was essentially an American Remake of the 1980's cult UK series "The Young Ones". If the Clerks 1995 pilot is able to surface then surely someone out there has this. Has anyone ever seen it?

Videoranger007
10-25-2017, 07:25 PM
Nobody has this as it has never been broadcast or leaked by an executive or someone involved with the show. Not even images exist online. Chances are it has been deleted

Spiny Norman
03-08-2018, 05:52 PM
Nobody has this as it has never been broadcast or leaked by an executive or someone involved with the show. Not even images exist online. Chances are it has been deletedThat's not entirely true, the opening credits are on vimeo, and reportedly there had been a sort of teaser/screener.
Not that I have ever seen it - if only!
But I've seen some things turn up that were more unexpected than the Spanish inquisition. Beane's of Boston, the US Are You Being Served? for example, came to light on facebook.

Spiny Norman
11-23-2025, 03:23 PM
Looks like it will finally become available in a few days: https://www.patreon.com/posts/143210147

jeff1990
11-23-2025, 03:24 PM
Hey, that's really awesome. Can't wait.

Spiny Norman
11-23-2025, 05:09 PM
Hey, that's really awesome. Can't wait.PS The script is online somewhere too now. But I prefer to watch it first. You can't really get the full feeling from reading the dialogue from a page, right?

jeff1990
11-23-2025, 05:10 PM
I mean I have yet to watch the original series. But I eventually want to see the pilot for how bad it is.

Spiny Norman
11-23-2025, 05:37 PM
I mean I have yet to watch the original series.It's only 12 episodes. What are you waiting for!

jeff1990
11-23-2025, 05:39 PM
I'm not one for binge watching. I tried it once years ago with Breaking Bad and couldn't. When it comes to TV shows, it's one episode a day for me. I like the suspense, lol.

Spiny Norman
11-24-2025, 08:59 AM
Not sure it would even be that good for bingeing.

But even then, it's "BBC length", 6 episodes a season. Give it 2-3 weeks, and you've seen them all...!

jeff1990
11-24-2025, 09:50 AM
I'd probably be done in about two weeks depending on my work schedule.

jeff1990
11-30-2025, 12:25 AM
Finally found. Can't wait to check it out.

cloggedmind
12-01-2025, 09:17 PM
The outing is not totally without merit. The sets and characters look, move and explode like The Young Ones. The problem was the lack of fine tuning and the constraints of Puritanical American television standards. And some other stuff..

Re-casting the two leads opposite Planer and a less Americanized sitcom structure written by anyone but Mirkin would have helped immensely.

For alternate universe Young Ones, though, Filthy, Rich and Catflap works just fine.

Worthy of note: Nigel Planer revisited the characterization of Neil briefly (as another character caught in a bit of a timey-wimey, machine-y thingy) in the PC CD-Rom adventure, Discworld II.

jeff1990
12-02-2025, 10:48 AM
The outing is not totally without merit. The sets and characters look, move and explode like The Young Ones. The problem was the lack of fine tuning and the constraints of Puritanical American television standards. And some other stuff..

Re-casting the two leads opposite Planer and a less Americanized sitcom structure written by anyone but Mirkin would have helped immensely.

For alternate universe Young Ones, though, Filthy, Rich and Catflap works just fine.

Worthy of note: Nigel Planer revisited the characterization of Neil briefly (as another character caught in a bit of a timey-wimey, machine-y thingy) in the PC CD-Rom adventure, Discworld II.

I love British comedy like Fawlty Towers and I do plan on checking out The Young Ones before watching the unaired pilot. Looks Iike I'm in for some bad tv.

cloggedmind
12-02-2025, 08:48 PM
I love British comedy like Fawlty Towers and I do plan on checking out The Young Ones before watching the unaired pilot. Looks Iike I'm in for some bad tv.

Not sure I've ever heard anyone refer to The Young Ones as "bad tv"? You might be surprised!

Now, as for Oh No, Not Them!? For the uninitiated I can see how it would be excruciating. I don't think Mirkin understood the conceit of early-80's, British anarchic, counter-culture comedy (and the satire embedded within), nor did he get what made what were, essentially, non-sympathetic, unlikeable characters actually likeable!

jeff1990
12-02-2025, 11:02 PM
Not sure I've ever heard anyone refer to The Young Ones as "bad tv"? You might be surprised!

Now, as for Oh No, Not Them!? For the uninitiated I can see how it would be excruciating. I don't think Mirkin understood the conceit of early-80's, British anarchic, counter-culture comedy (and the satire embedded within), nor did he get what made what were, essentially, non-sympathetic, unlikeable characters actually likeable!

When I say "bad tv" I was reffering to Oh No, Not Them! I'm sure The Young Ones is good. I got a lot of TV shows that I'm currently watching so I'll check it out eventually.

Spiny Norman
12-03-2025, 12:32 PM
The outing is not totally without merit. The sets and characters look, move and explode like The Young Ones. The problem was the lack of fine tuning and the constraints of Puritanical American television standards. And some other stuff..

Re-casting the two leads opposite Planer and a less Americanized sitcom structure written by anyone but Mirkin would have helped immensely.

For alternate universe Young Ones, though, Filthy, Rich and Catflap works just fine.

Worthy of note: Nigel Planer revisited the characterization of Neil briefly (as another character caught in a bit of a timey-wimey, machine-y thingy) in the PC CD-Rom adventure, Discworld II.All four reprised their role briefly for a benefit concert with Cliff Richard (or was it Bob Geloff?) too, and I think there was one even less known performance.
In fact while we're on that subject, I used to think, what are these bands doing here in the middle of a tv program? But here, I sort of missed the music.

The gun fight was a bit of an obvious Americanisation, of course. But they generally fail on this point.
Still it's probably a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. I was lucky enough the attend a screening of the Up Pompeii remake and that had stayed TOO close to the original. Audiences used to the Happy Days format wouldn't be able to wrap their head around its style.

Come to think of it, I think The Office probably also worked because corporate offices are such a USthing from US corporate culture, that it was easier to connect back to where its setting came from.

darkrage6
12-11-2025, 09:23 PM
All four reprised their role briefly for a benefit concert with Cliff Richard (or was it Bob Geloff?) too, and I think there was one even less known performance.
In fact while we're on that subject, I used to think, what are these bands doing here in the middle of a tv program? But here, I sort of missed the music.

The gun fight was a bit of an obvious Americanisation, of course. But they generally fail on this point.
Still it's probably a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. I was lucky enough the attend a screening of the Up Pompeii remake and that had stayed TOO close to the original. Audiences used to the Happy Days format wouldn't be able to wrap their head around its style.

Come to think of it, I think The Office probably also worked because corporate offices are such a USthing from US corporate culture, that it was easier to connect back to where its setting came from.That was originally the case with the remake of "Coupling" as the original pilot was a lot closer to the original UK show with a different actress. It was based on the pilot of the original show "Inferno" but it apparently didn't test that well with audiences so the producer of Cheers was brought in to change it more. Personally I thought it was a fine remake, changing one of the characters from a Tory supporter to a Bush supporter worked well enough, but I would like to see the original unaired pilot surface at some point.

jeff1990
12-11-2025, 11:46 PM
I would love to see the missing episodes of Heil Honey, I'm Home. I remember getting the pilot back in 2011. As bad as the show is, it's nowhere near as controversial that they make it out to be. Just unfunny.

Spiny Norman
12-12-2025, 03:40 PM
I would love to see the missing episodes of Heil Honey, I'm Home. I remember getting the pilot back in 2011. As bad as the show is, it's nowhere near as controversial that they make it out to be. Just unfunny.I agree; it's not more shocking than The Producers or 'Allo 'Allo - and the latter initially got some push back too!!

But HHIH is just a two trick pony. Fake '50s sitcom style + it's got adolf in it. And the jokes end there.

jeff1990
12-12-2025, 05:56 PM
Thinking about it, the pilot is due for a re-watch.

Deaks
12-14-2025, 02:28 PM
https://youtu.be/ZmbE74w008c?si=PZBeyKdqfAuLy-nO