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Will and Grace Fanatic
05-13-2002, 12:31 AM
What I mean is when people (usually teenagers and people in there 20's) say that is so gay. That really offends me that when someone doesn't like something they say it is gay. Or if someone doesn't like someone else they'll go for instance mr. miller is so gay. ( that example is of a student talking about a teacher) Does this annoy any one else.

Janice
05-13-2002, 01:40 AM
That gay crack annoys me too, as well as when someone calls someone a ****** or says something is ********.

Will and Grace Fanatic
05-13-2002, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by JanLady617
That gay crack annoys me too, as well as when someone calls someone a ****** or says something is ********.

Yeah, that ****** thing annoys me too.

Mossopp
05-13-2002, 01:14 PM
I can't stand it when I hear people using the word "gay" as an insult. These people don't seem to realise that all they are doing is making themselves look really ignorant.

Kay Scarpetta
05-13-2002, 03:21 PM
The 2 things above annoy me to no end.

Also, when someone says "Jeeze, are you on meds or soemthing?" and they start cracking up afterwards. I hate that, because some people are on meds. Just because your on meds doesn't make you a nut. It makes me feel awful when people say that.

MyStErIoUs ChIck
05-13-2002, 05:09 PM
Yes, it annoys me! I hate when people throw
the word gay around in conversation just to emphasize
their dislike for something or someone. It doesn't only
annoy me, though. It absolutely infuriates me.I'm
afraid that I might snap one day and hurt someone really
bad for saying that. It brings out the belligerent side in
me that's rarely seen. I'm sorry, but it just downright
pisses me off. :mad: :angryfire :livid: :smash:

X4Wrapsumden4X
05-13-2002, 06:32 PM
I use gay and ******** all the time but i dont even mean it towards gay ppl so it shouldnt insult no one

Kitt
05-13-2002, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by X4Wrapsumden4X
I use gay and ******** all the time but i dont even mean it towards gay ppl so it shouldnt insult no one But as you can see, it does insult, annoy and anger people and also makes you seem, as Mossopp said, ignorant.

InspectorExstead
05-13-2002, 09:27 PM
omg, ppl agree with me. i get so offended when they do that, even if they're joking or whatever. they go "omg, we have a test tomorrow, how gay!" and then i tell them to not say that and they get all over my case about how it's not "offensive" and all. it's just an insult. it's, to me, like sticking your middle finger up at someone you know? it's just annoying and i want em to stop.

Pitooey
05-13-2002, 09:37 PM
There was a time when all these words were used and no one thought it was hurting anyone.

Times have changed though and everything is more in the open. Believe it or not I've learned alot from reading these boards as to how people react about words and stuff. I think if a person doesn't like certain words they should just post it or write letters. Educate the public because sometimes we don't know what hurts anymore.

ISmellFine
05-13-2002, 09:43 PM
Ugh...I hate when people say, "That's so gay!" Okay, a couple of weeks ago I was over at one of my friends houses and we were sitting outside on her trampoline and I asked her if she thought being gay was "bad" and she said no. So then at school everyday shes like, "I hate her...she's gay!" Although whoever she's talkin about isn't. And that's why she hates Pink because she thinks shes gay...or something. Geezus. Homophobic freak.

Rockapella722
05-13-2002, 10:27 PM
My best friend recently came out with being bi, so I've tried to stop saying that things are "gay" because I realize how wrong it is.

Cokies
05-14-2002, 01:46 AM
Okay, I admit to have used the word "gay" to describe a lousy situation. But it's really passe now, no one really uses it. No one uses the word "***" either.
Now, ******** is something a tad different. It doesn't irk me like it does others. I mean, calling someone ******** is not wise, but I do use it to decribe a situation that's stupid or confusing.

I don't know, maybe I am just ignorant.

Will and Grace Fanatic
05-14-2002, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by Cokies
Okay, I admit to have used the word "gay" to describe a lousy situation. But it's really passe now, no one really uses it. No one uses the word "***" either.
Now, ******** is something a tad different. It doesn't irk me like it does others. I mean, calling someone ******** is not wise, but I do use it to decribe a situation that's stupid or confusing.

I don't know, maybe I am just ignorant.

Really? no one uses it now. That's actually not true I here people say it all the time.

pontoon
05-14-2002, 03:43 PM
"Excited with merriment...bright & lively in appearance...gleeful...blithe...airy...glad...etc."

If something I find comes under one of those categories, I'll say it looks gay! What I WON'T say is it looks 'homosexual'!

Lemme explain...there ARE homosexuals that DO fall into the above stereotypical descriptions. However...using the word 'gay' does NOT necessarily mean 'homosexual in nature'. Remember...the literal meaning of the word has been around LONG before the slang term for a 'homosexual'!

Now...'********' is another story! To call someone a '******' is IMO a very callous thing to say!

Just my two cents,

pontoon :cool:

Mossopp
05-14-2002, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by pontoon
"Excited with merriment...bright & lively in appearance...gleeful...blithe...airy...glad...etc."
If something I find comes under one of those categories, I'll say it looks gay! What I WON'T say is it looks 'homosexual'!
Lemme explain...there ARE homosexuals that DO fall into the above stereotypical descriptions. However...using the word 'gay' does NOT necessarily mean 'homosexual in nature'. Remember...the literal meaning of the word has been around LONG before the slang term for a 'homosexual'!



It's perfectly ok to use the word "gay" if you mean it in it's proper context. If you say something is gay and you mean that it is "bright and lively in appearance" then that is fine. That isn't what this thread is about though. This thread is about people who use the word "gay" - meaning 'homosexual' - as an insult.
I totally agree with what Indigo said. I too get extremly angry when I walk down the street and hear kids yelling "oh sh#t dude - that so f#cking gay!!!!!". When did "gay" become a term of insult? And more importantly, since when was being "gay" a bad thing?
People make me so mad sometimes I could smack 'em. I have attempted to figure these people out. Once I actually pulled a kid up about it when she said something was "gay". I asked her why she chose that word - why couldn't she say it was "stupid", or "daft" or "crap". And what was her response? She kinda looked at me for a couple of seconds and said "sh#t - I dunno man, it's just gay!"
That's the kind of mentality these people have. Sad, isn't it?

XoVanillaRain90oX
05-14-2002, 05:13 PM
I've used those words a few times in my lifetime to describe something, but now i realize how wrong it is. like today...an example

thomas: shut up you lesbian
jelena: at least im not gay like you!

that was rude! i made a face at them. it sounds so....ignorant.

pontoon
05-14-2002, 05:35 PM
...would you find it offensive if I used the word to describe a gay person, as in 'he's SO gay'? (which is the title of a GREAT Frank Zappa tune, BTW)

For instance...we watched 'The Fisher King' last night, and the character portrayed by Michael Jeter was a bit flamboyant and 'bright and lively in appearance'. Would you consider it to be an insult to use the word 'gay' to DESCRIBE a gay person? IE..."Michael Jeter SURE looked gay in that movie".

And I've often wondered how the word evolved into a 'catch phrase' for homosexuals?

And PLEASE don't get me wrong here...I'm not trying to pin a label on anyone! It's just that these days it's getting to be a real struggle trying NOT to offend anyone. And I'm sorry...but some homosexuals appear to be more 'gay' (in the true meaning of the word) than others.

And as far as using the word 'gay' to describe a "lousy situation"...well, that would just be wrong. Morally AND grammatically!

pontoon :cool:

Jordan
05-14-2002, 08:17 PM
I hate it too! :mad: :mad: :mad:

MyStErIoUs ChIck
05-14-2002, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by shyguy418


Really? no one uses it now. That's actually not true I here people say it all the time.


oh yeah, I hear it everyday of my life.
I go to a religious school, so I guess
all the kids think it's ok to throw the
word gay around and make hurtful
comments about homosexual people
because it's supposedly an abomination
to God. Personally, I'm not a big fan of
the Bible...not at all...BUT I don't even
interpret it as being against God's will
because I never saw anything in there
that said "homosexual people are
going to hell". I think what really disgusted
God was the fact that there was all kinds of
threesomes and orgys going on, so the ppl
who wrote the Bible might have misunderstood
Jesus for saying that homosexuality was wrong
instead of writing that multiple sex partners was
a sin. OK, that's just an idea I have that could
possibly be true. Please don't slander me.

MyStErIoUs ChIck
05-15-2002, 12:08 AM
Another thing that angered me was that today
at drama class, I found a very disturbing line
in my script about homosexuality. I'm not going
to say what it was, but I was offended. I'll leave
it at that. I told my director that I would decline
to be in the play if she didn't take it out, so she
did.

Czas na Zywiec
05-15-2002, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by MyStErIoUs ChIck



oh yeah, I hear it everyday of my life.
I go to a religious school, so I guess
all the kids think it's ok to throw the
word gay around and make hurtful
comments about homosexual people
because it's supposedly an abomination
to God. Personally, I'm not a big fan of
the Bible...not at all...BUT I don't even
interpret it as being against God's will
because I never saw anything in there
that said "homosexual people are
going to hell". I think what really disgusted
God was the face that there was all kinds of
threesomes and orgys going on, so the ppl
who wrote the Bible might have misunderstood
Jesus for saying that homosexuality was wrong
instead of writing that multiple sex partners was
a sin. OK, that's just an idea I have that could
possibly be true. Please don't slander me.

We were talking about this in our Bible Study group. (I'ma Catholic BTW) And we were talking all about Homosexuality and they said as long as you don't act on the sex or get tempted you have sex, it's okay to be gay. I mean the church doesn't say it's wrong, because we are all human beings, but acting on your temptation is wrong, like any other sin.

MyStErIoUs ChIck
05-15-2002, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by Ricky Ricardo


We were talking about this in our Bible Study group. (I'ma Catholic BTW) And we were talking all about Homosexuality and they said as long as you don't act on the sex or get tempted you have sex, it's okay to be gay. I mean the church doesn't say it's wrong, because we are all human beings, but acting on your temptation is wrong, like any other sin.


Do you mean that two homosexual
people having sex in general is a
sin or were you referring to multiple
partner sex?

Czas na Zywiec
05-15-2002, 01:08 AM
Originally posted by MyStErIoUs ChIck



Do you mean that two homosexual
people having sex in general is a
sin or were you referring to multiple
partner sex?

Well any sex in general is a sin if your not married LOL. But I meant any kind of sex. Straight sex without marriage is a sin in the Catholic church too.

Janice
05-15-2002, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by Ricky Ricardo


Well any sex in general is a sin if your not married LOL. But I meant any kind of sex. Straight sex without marriage is a sin in the Catholic church too.
It's too bad those accused (and convicted) Catholic priests don't practice what they preach.

Kay Scarpetta
05-15-2002, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by JanLady617
It's too bad those accused (and convicted) Catholic priests don't practice what they preach.

Took the words right outta my mouth. If you think of it, it kind of brings shame to the Catholic churches along with beliefs of the whole denomination

Mossopp
05-15-2002, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by pontoon
...would you find it offensive if I used the word to describe a gay person, as in 'he's SO gay'? (which is the title of a GREAT Frank Zappa tune, BTW)

For instance...we watched 'The Fisher King' last night, and the character portrayed by Michael Jeter was a bit flamboyant and 'bright and lively in appearance'. Would you consider it to be an insult to use the word 'gay' to DESCRIBE a gay person? IE..."Michael Jeter SURE looked gay in that movie".

Actually yeah, I think that describing a falmboyant person as "gay" is kind of offensive. There are a lot of flamboyant people who aren't nesessarily gay and visa versa. The idea that all gay people are flamboyant is a stereotype, and stereotypes are a dangerous thing.

And I've often wondered how the word evolved into a 'catch phrase' for homosexuals?

You almost sound like my father. He's always moaning on about how he's not sure what things he can say and what he can't because the "poofs" have "stolen all our words". He thinks that gay people have stolen words like 'gay' and 'dyke' and now he can't use them in their proper context anymore. My father is a bigot of the highest order - you've no idea what I have to put up with! I can relate to what Indigo has to endure from teachers at her school cos I have to hear it every day at home.
Actually I'm not entirely sure as to the origin of "gay" becoming a term for homosexuality. I believe that it's an acronym -
Good
As
You
Like I said though, I'm not sure. If anyone does know the real origin I'd be interested to hear it.

Sitcomwriter
05-15-2002, 04:00 PM
While I sometimes say "That's ******" I don't really like "That's so gay"!

vienna waits
05-15-2002, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by Sitcomwriter
While I sometimes say "That's ******" I don't really like "That's so gay"!

You're back I see...................

Mr. Shy Guy
05-15-2002, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by tootieismyfav


You're back I see...................

I was just gonna say that.

Czas na Zywiec
05-15-2002, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by Lisa Whelchel Forever


Took the words right outta my mouth. If you think of it, it kind of brings shame to the Catholic churches along with beliefs of the whole denomination

OMG, I know what you mean. My parents are really weird on the subject and it makes us Catholics looks sooo horrible and it's just a shame. But I still stick firm to my beliefs. As long as I know what's wrong and stay abstinent until I get married (Which I really believe in no matter what) then I know that I did the right thing.

Kitt
05-15-2002, 08:43 PM
I don't see much room for any interpretation other than rudeness and ignorance for using the word 'gay' as it was presented in this thread but the ignorance is slightly understandable because language is always evolving. Pontoon's - to use newpaper jargon - 'Other View' opened the subject of evolving language. I was thinking about evolving language today and had begun to organize and write down my thoughts about it. But then I happened on to a paragraph in an essay that I was reading, which fortunately or unfortunately (I'm not sure which because I would rather have written the paragraph myself), says just what I wanted to say, and more, about the mystery, invention and the evolution of language.

"Writing is in fact a mystery, an invention that grew out of the most mysterious and revolutionary human invention of all, which was language--the environment we inhabit and that inhabits us. Of all the secondary environments we have created, language seems the most like a natural system, something that grows, evolves, embraces. metamorphoses and hybridizes according to laws that we can partially deduce but didn't devise and can't control. But when you are using it all the time, talking to yourself even when you are trying to listen to somebody else, language doesn't seem mysterious or revolutionary at all. It seems like self generated static."
--Franklin Burroughs

AllIWantIsYourClutch
05-16-2002, 04:38 PM
We had choir rehersal yesterday and it was in the gym and this guy walked by and this stupid preppy popular girl behind me goes "******!!!!!" really loud. And I thought of you guys and I was talking to my friend and I said (LOUD) "God...That was so rude! Doesn't she know that people are offended by that?! LIKE ME?!!??" and i turned around and she gave me a dirty look. Ahaha. It was great.

MyStErIoUs ChIck
05-18-2002, 03:24 PM
I think I'm going to start calling people straight
for fun and see how they react to it. "Man,
you're so damn straight!" :lol: I think it would
be interesting to hear what people say about it
since it's usually straight people using the word
gay as an insult. I know two wrongs don't make
a right, but I want to see what'll happen if I say
straight instead of gay. :D

Mossopp
05-19-2002, 07:57 AM
:lol: That's a great idea, Indigo! I'm gonna start doing that too!

MyStErIoUs ChIck
05-19-2002, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by Mossopp
:lol: That's a great idea, Indigo! I'm gonna start doing that too!

Yeah, ya know...only to the people who deserve it
though. The ones who show their stupidity and use
the word gay excessively for absolutely no purpose,
but to reveal their disrespect for people who live a
lifestyle differently than them. We'll kinda be stooping
to their level, but hey...it's all in fun (as they would say).
:D

Kay Scarpetta
05-19-2002, 12:06 PM
Good idea, Indigo! Lets see how they like it