The updates on Amazon have been seemingly on point but I actually had to rewatch the update on Pam Page twice to make sure I didn't read it wrong. It said police no longer consider her husband (Robert Page) a suspect but still have no idea what happened to her. Ok and OJ is innocent :rolleyes:

I googled the case to see where this was citied and I couldn't find anything. Robert Page died of cancer in 2010 but that still doesn't mean police don't consider him still the prime suspect. Everything in that episode and in every article on the case point to his guilt. He was the last one with her, he lied repeatedly, changed his story multiple times when confronted with other facts or an eye witness, forged a letter, refused a lie detector test, lied to her family that he reported her missing when he neve had ect. I honestly can't see how a homicide detective would not consider him the prime suspect in her disappearance regardless of he's alive or deceased.

I think first film accidentally messed up that update for sure.

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I'm in total agreement with you on this one. This dude was so guilty it was unreal. Like, Paul Pollis/Stephen Marfeo/Mark Nichols level of guilty IMO. The only thing that keeps him from being included at the very top of the list of "Guiltiest spouses in UM history" was that he wasn't as stupid as those other guys were and refused to appear on camera. There's really no way that Rob Page wasn't somewhat involved in Pam's disappearance and murder.

Some of these Amazon updates are depressing as hell because some really disgusting people are not locked up anymore. For instance, I didn't know that Paul Stamper was released from jail in 2002. Kidnapping, attempted murder, sending a hitman to murder but him attacking the wrong person and escape from jail gave him a whopping ten years behind bars.

Likewise, one of the five arsonists from Kansas City that killed 6 firemen got their life sentence reduced to 22 years and is now a free man.

So many face palms.

Some of these Amazon updates are depressing as hell because some really disgusting people are not locked up anymore. For instance, I didn't know that Paul Stamper was released from jail in 2002. Kidnapping, attempted murder, sending a hitman to murder but him attacking the wrong person and escape from jail gave him a whopping ten years behind bars.

Likewise, one of the five arsonists from Kansas City that killed 6 firemen got their life sentence reduced to 22 years and is now a free man.

So many face palms.
Don't forget Dave Freeman. POS barely served anytime at all for imprisoning a man, using all of his money, and killing him. :(

The Paul Stamper update really shocked me. Only 10 years? I'm sure his ex-wife was pretty freaked out when she heard. Hopefully he's been behaving himself for the past 15 years, but nonetheless, that sentence is ridiculous.

I agree with you guys, the updates are depressing. I just can't believe the Pam Page update is accurate. I couldn't find one article that said police don't consider Robert Page a suspect. Maybe it was an error and they meant to say he's now deceased.

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Don't forget Dave Freeman. POS barely served anytime at all for imprisoning a man, using all of his money, and killing him. :(

The Paul Stamper update really shocked me. Only 10 years? I'm sure his ex-wife was pretty freaked out when she heard. Hopefully he's been behaving himself for the past 15 years, but nonetheless, that sentence is ridiculous.

Let out early on parole, like many others, sadly. We could probably make an entire thread out of horrible people who got slaps on the wrist.

I was also reading up on Ryan Love, the guy who murdered the taxi driver, Lucie Turmel. 19 years in prison and let out early on parole. The guy stabbed her 17 times in the neck and face, left her to the side of the road, took her money AND her cab. The whole point of the attack was because he had a family reunion coming up and he wanted to flash that $130 in stolen cab fairs to his family members in order to impress them. :rolleyes:

That man walks the streets today and is considered low risk by law enforcement. Lucie's family is resigned to the mentality that some punishment was better than none.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/killed+Banff+cabbie+less+than+1990+gets+full+parole/7227167/story.html

Oddly enough, the Farina segment (made prior to Rob's death), says that police no longer consider him a suspect in his wife's disappearance. Maybe there was more information to lead police to see that someone else could've been involved, or that she did indeed run off to start a new life.

He admitted printing and signing her "disappearance" note and he ditched her car at the donut shop... But yet he's not a suspect?!? I always thought his guilt was north of 99% certain.

Here (http://m.peoriatimes.com/mobile/news/article_6524e54e-c9e1-54b6-8c9a-14ff5e133c80.html) is an article after Rob's death that states Pam's family still thinks he did it.

Hmm... Maybe RobinW needs to do a podcast about this case! :)

He admitted printing and signing her "disappearance" note and he ditched her car at the donut shop... But yet he's not a suspect?!? I always thought his guilt was north of 99% certain.

Here (http://m.peoriatimes.com/mobile/news/article_6524e54e-c9e1-54b6-8c9a-14ff5e133c80.html) is an article after Rob's death that states Pam's family still thinks he did it.

Hmm... Maybe RobinW needs to do a podcast about this case! :)


I'm exactly what I'm saying. I read that article. It said nothing about police having any evidence pointing in a different direction. Plus, her family is pinning all their hopes of learning pams fate on that Rob told one of his family members before he died.

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I noticed a lot of felons get released after serving a certain number of years and its troubling to say the least. Have any aside from Dark Dante reformed?

Oddly enough, the Farina segment (made prior to Rob's death), says that police no longer consider him a suspect in his wife's disappearance. Maybe there was more information to lead police to see that someone else could've been involved, or that she did indeed run off to start a new life.

After watching the Pam Page story again, this still just boggles my mind...

What possible evidence could there be the would make Rob "not a suspect"? I realize he is dead now, but this has to be an error by UM/FilmRise or a misunderstanding. On my personal Guilt Meter, I have Rob Page about Mark Nichols and Jule Caylor (and that is saying a lot).

Oddly enough, all of the articles since his death have his family still maintaining their belief that Rob is guilty. I can't imagine the police would actively clear him unless they had specific evidence to show she left on her own or Rob didn't do it. With him admitting that he printed and signed the note and staged her car, this is beyond comprehension.

Rob is, in my mind, the only suspect. If you've seen the segment, it goes without words. It is really sad that she has never been found, and especially frustrating that he went to the grave without giving her family the peace of having her back.

What possible evidence could there be the would make Rob "not a suspect"? I realize he is dead now, but this has to be an error by UM/FilmRise or a misunderstanding. On my personal Guilt Meter, I have Rob Page about Mark Nichols and Jule Caylor (and that is saying a lot).

The only thing I can figure is that the police substantiated the missing money, and could have had witnesses who they deemed credible who claimed to have seen Pam after the date of her disappearance.

Not according to her family or an updated article a few years ago...

Not according to her family or an updated article a few years ago...

I think he's guilty too, but I don't know why UM would still claim that he was no longer a suspect unless they were told that by law enforcement.

I just watched this segment and there's no way in heck that Rob wasn't involved. It's unfortunate that he took the secret of where her body is to his grave.

Sometimes the police will have evidence they use to clear someone, but as in most murder cases, they hold things back. I was surprised myself at that update. But the lack of anything specific from the police as to why is more frustrating than it is unusual.

Sometimes it’s tough to watch unsolved crime shows because even with updates, they may still leave you hanging. Unlike fictional shows or crime shows about cases that have been solved where they usually wrap up all loose ends, with police holding back info though in ongoing cases, we don’t get that closure.

I always figured him for guilty too, but they must have something substantiating his innocence or they wouldn’t have worded it that way in both the Farina and Stack updates.

The update is absolutely wrong! I just posted my latest article on my blog about Pam Page and I have a letter on there that the family was given that proves the UM update is incorrect. Plus a lot more details that UM didn't mention.

https://lostnfoundblogs.com/f/pam-page-a-forged-farewell

The update is absolutely wrong! I just posted my latest article on my blog about Pam Page and I have a letter on there that the family was given that proves the UM update is incorrect. Plus a lot more details that UM didn't mention.

https://lostnfoundblogs.com/f/pam-page-a-forged-farewell

Thank you for posting this, CD! The article was great -- but this part of it is very important. I will post part of your article here:

Pam’s family does want me to clear something up. I’m not sure of the source but there are reports out there that state that Rob is no longer a suspect in Pam’s disappearance. That is absolutely NOT the case. In fact, I will share with you a letter the family received 2 years ago from the Maricopa County Attorney’s office that should clear up any confusion. I will attach a photo of it but will type it out as well so it’s easy to read:

Dear Frisby Family:

I have reviewed the summary of this case and the appended Fact Chronology which includes the most recent witness statements. I have also spoken with Detectives Mark Stribling and Dennis Olson about their review of and follow-up on this case. If this matter was submitted to me today for consideration of charges I believe we would have a reasonable likelihood of conviction (despite Pam’s body never being found) of Robert Page on the charge of Murder in the Second Degree. We really have no solid information to prove premeditation for a count of Murder in the First Degree. This case offers nothing in the way of alternative explanations of Pam Page’s disappearance to warrant continuing working this case in efforts to find other suspects. In view of the fact that suspect Robert Page is now deceased I consider this case closed.

Sincerely,

Bob Shutts
Attorney-Cold Case Supervisor

As I suspected, the update on UM is totally wrong. I don't know if they heard wrong or if they were told wrong, but obviously Rob has NOT been cleared as a suspect.

While this was suspected by many of us, it also calls into question the accuracy of many of the other UM updates on cases like this. I suspect they many not have done (or be doing) thorough research on some of these case updates. That is doing a huge disservice to the viewers, but an even bigger disservice to the families of the victims. :mad: