as the Cleavers?

I am...mostly. I was NOT in high school

Clean cut? Not much left to cut up there, anymore, unfortunately!

I agree with your tag line...I'm living in the wrong time...I want to live next door to the Cleavers.

I don't wear a tie at dinner, or pearls when I vacuum.

Uh, right! No ties. I'd be more like Ward in 1957, when he's more casual (and less perfect).

And definitely no pearls.

I like how both June and Ward are still all dressed up at 11:00 pm waiting for Wally to come home. I think my family was the furthest thing from The Cleavers. Could never picture two married people sitting next to each other on the sofa reading books at night like our own June and Ward.

I like how both June and Ward are still all dressed up at 11:00 pm waiting for Wally to come home. I think my family was the furthest thing from The Cleavers. Could never picture two married people sitting next to each other on the sofa reading books at night like our own June and Ward.

The wife and I do do that on occasion, but we definitely aren't dressed up, more like sweats and t-shirts.

nope. as the priest once told me in church when I was a small child - "you are a HEATHEN, now go sit outside in the snow!"

--Are you as clean cut and wholesome as the Cleavers?--

"Only the good die young" has always been my motto.

Thanks, Billy Joel, for resurrecting this old thread. Fun to see it again!

Not me. Not a slob though. Someone once described me as Hank Hill ( from 'King of the Hill' ) with slightly longer hair.

As for neckties, whenever decorum forced me to wear them ( weddings...funerals ) I always removed it the first nanosecond decorum allowed me to.

Thanks, Billy Joel, for resurrecting this old thread. Fun to see it again!

I'd rather laugh with the sinners, than cry with the saints
the sinners are much more fun.......


I can't think of any words that are more true. Perhaps that is the source of my cynical outlook on many women. Not sure.


I read deep into this forum last night...many interesting topics.....this one stood above the rest as my first choice.

Noteworthy however, I was surprised with the sheer number of threads that seem to agree with my feelings, that Ward wearing his suit late into the evening, was untypical of what most Americans would consider "normal". This is a well-traveled subject here. (along with the pearls)

Renewing my conviction that when Newton Minow lamented about "formula comedies about totally unbelievable families" in his Vast Wasteland speech, LITB was probably not an exception to his thinking.

I don't wear a suit and tie to the dinner table, but I do prefer a button-up shirt over a T-shirt.

My grandmother used to always laugh at the silly vanity of June, vacuuming in pearls.

I don't wear a suit and tie to the dinner table, but I do prefer a button-up shirt over a T-shirt.

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I never really was a tee shirt guy. Since the 7th grade, dress shirts have been my preferred shirt.....I own perhaps a dozen tee shirts that I only wear when I am gardening, or working on plumbing, things of that nature.

And I prefer long sleeve dress shirts, but typically after hours I'll have the sleeves rolled up to the elbow.

Nine years out of my career I wore a suit. And every night when getting home, first thing I'd do is ditch the jacket an slacks, for a comfortable pair of blue jeans. Usually when I'd buy a new dress shirt, I'd put it into the business wardrobe, to be worn along with the suits. After a couple years, I'd cycle those shirts into my more casual wear for weekends, holidays, and vacations.

Now that I'm retired, I seldom put on a suit for anyone, unless I need their approval in some capacity. But I have an extensive inventory of button down shirts that I cycle through.

FWIW, I am fairly confident that I NEVER wore a pair of blue jeans to school,.....not even once. Which made me somewhat of a rarity.

I like buttoned shirts with the button-down collar. Casual, sized M, L, etc. Never wore jeans to school, but wear Levis (R) all the time now.

Oh, wear tees all the time in the summer. The buttoned shirts are long-sleeve.

Best tees are the L L Bean ones.

I believe that part of it, for me personally,....after I got off work, I wanted to relax and be comfortable. Typically the tie would come off somewhere while driving home, and once I was at home, somebody better have a fairly serious reason for stopping me between the front door and the bedroom.

After I had changed clothes was the time to ask me for donations, entry fees, and rides to the mall.

Perhaps part of it was psychological, not wanting to worry about splattering gravy on a thousand dollar suit. But I just didn't feel "at home" until I had shed the suit.

So, to my way of thinking, Ward was wearing the suit to please the audience.

Best tees are the L L Bean ones.

Those are nice.

The last 6 years of my working life, I worked for a restoration shop, rebuilding antiques. It was just a bridge job to get me to retirement age.

But it could get messy, and you could snag a thread on an upholstery staple, or a nail that had not been properly set.

So, I actually started buying my work tees at the Salvation Army. Just a buck for a shirt that might last 2 days or 2 months....seemed like a winning strategy.

And, if you shop carefully, you can find pieces that look never worn.

Yes, LITB has affected my way of life and style of dress.

I started watching LITB on Nick at Nite while in high school, and I believe that my liking for light-colored (almost white) khaki pants during that period came from watching Wally.

To this day, when I wear a tie, I always tuck the tie in my pants, just like Wally did. It's a neater look, keeps the tie in place without having to wear a tie clip. I can't stand ties flopping around.

During most of the year I wear casual button-front shirts with khakis or, in the winter, corduroys (I couldn't live in the winter without corduroys). In winter I often wear a V-neck sweater over the shirt. In the summer I wear striped T-shirts, a bit retro in style, like the ones kids wore in the '50s. I don't like polo shirts anymore, partly because they are poorly made now. True dress wear (dress shirts, sport coat or suit with tie) is reserved for church or concerts and performances. I work from home so I can dress as I please.

There are a few shirts I've seen from the sitcoms of the 50s/60s/70s, that I'd really like to have! They have button-down collars, most short sleeve.

There are a few shirts I've seen from the sitcoms of the 50s/60s/70s, that I'd really like to have! They have button-down collars, most short sleeve.

Those printed short-sleeved shirts Wally wore were kind of neat. I think there was one that had small insignias or shields on it - you have to look very closely to see.

Beaver's shirts, on the other hand, were another matter. When I was a child and shopping for clothes with my mom, sometimes I'd pick out a shirt with a distracting check or plaid, and my mom would say, "Ugh, that looks too much like a Beaver Cleaver shirt."

I forgot to add that I have never worn blue jeans since I was a small child. I don't see them as either aesthetically appealing or comfortable. Always khakis or corduroys for me.

Re the comfort, it helps that a lot of Levis (R) now have a slight stretch.