View Full Version : Did you like Jack's Bistro?


JackJanetChrissy
06-14-2017, 12:04 AM
I preferred the Regal Beagle but I understand that they needed a fresh setting.

JSP
06-14-2017, 12:40 AM
I preferred the Regal Beagle but I understand that they needed a fresh setting.
I did not think Jack's Bistro was as funny as it could have been. They needed more Felipe there, more than he already was, as well as have Cindy work there as a waitress while she was schooling at UCLA. Then the potential for humor would have been greater. As it was, Bistro scenes were usually rather dull. I would have never laid off Jenilee from the show.

Dianne3
06-14-2017, 03:31 PM
I think the set used for Jack's Bistro was the same set used for when Jack worked in a sandwich shop.
My point being how small Jack's Bistro really was.

Cindy working at Jack's Bistro (and breaking all the dishes) would have been a really good idea.

If they did more with Jack's Bistro, I'm sure TC would have ended more on a high note instead of no longer even a top 30 show.

Also at Jack's Bistro, Larry could no longer sing when just the season earlier he could.

Smartboy
06-14-2017, 10:22 PM
I think the set used for Jack's Bistro was the same set used for when Jack worked in a sandwich shop.
My point being how small Jack's Bistro really was.

Cindy working at Jack's Bistro (and breaking all the dishes) would have been a really good idea.

If they did more with Jack's Bistro, I'm sure TC would have ended more on a high note instead of no longer even a top 30 show.

Also at Jack's Bistro, Larry could no longer sing when just the season earlier he could.


I remember that. In "Strangers in the Night" Larry proved to be a very good singer. A woman even told him that a voice like his should be on records!

Wawwie
06-14-2017, 10:36 PM
I liked when Larry's entire family were the first customers at Jack's Bistro. That was a good episode.

Smartboy
06-14-2017, 11:16 PM
I liked when Larry's entire family were the first customers at Jack's Bistro. That was a good episode.


I remember that episode. I thought it was pretty decent. It was later that season that we got to see Larry's sister. That was a good one too.

JackJanetChrissy
06-15-2017, 02:01 PM
I think the set used for Jack's Bistro was the same set used for when Jack worked in a sandwich shop.
My point being how small Jack's Bistro really was.

Cindy working at Jack's Bistro (and breaking all the dishes) would have been a really good idea.

If they did more with Jack's Bistro, I'm sure TC would have ended more on a high note instead of no longer even a top 30 show.

Also at Jack's Bistro, Larry could no longer sing when just the season earlier he could.

Well "bistro" implies a small restaurant, but I get what you are saying---the set felt cramped. I guess they couldn't give Jack a huge restaurant, though, because he was just starting out.

I agree that they should have done more with it. They did seem to forget it after season 7. It became less of a central part of the story lines after it first opened.

rusty spike
06-16-2017, 12:14 AM
I didn't care for it that much. There were some funny episodes, but what killed me was how they sold out Jack's character. C'mon, he liked to cook inside and outside of the kitchen. :crazy:

He had a passion as a chef and Jack had a lot of storylines about being the top chef. And then he suddenly announced that he had always wanted to own/manage his own restaurant. Maybe if Jack had been studying restaurant management or some sort of business class then it might have been plausible. It only became more ridiculous after Jack moved on to TAC.

I liked the idea of having Cindy and Felipe working at the Bistro though. ;)

JackJanetChrissy
06-16-2017, 02:13 PM
I didn't care for it that much. There were some funny episodes, but what killed me was how they sold out Jack's character. C'mon, he liked to cook inside and outside of the kitchen. :crazy:

He had a passion as a chef and Jack had a lot of storylines about being the top chef. And then he suddenly announced that he had always wanted to own/manage his own restaurant. Maybe if Jack had been studying restaurant management or some sort of business class then it might have been plausible. It only became more ridiculous after Jack moved on to TAC.

I liked the idea of having Cindy and Felipe working at the Bistro though. ;)


I agree! Although he did say in the series pilot that he always wanted to own his own restaurant for "people who really appreciate high prices," cooking always seemed to be his top priority, not management. But he seemed to have such a problem getting a good chef's job that maybe owning his own place seemed to be a real opportunity.

Mace Dolex
06-16-2017, 10:10 PM
It's too bad Felipe wasn't brought over to Three's A Crowd but I understand the producers wanting everything retooled.

TVFactFan
06-17-2017, 04:15 PM
Cindy dropping dishes at the Bistro would have gotten old since she was a grown women

And this of how much money she would have been costing Jack?:lol:

Dianne3
06-19-2017, 06:12 PM
Why didn't Mr. Angelino not like Jack?
I get that TC was trying to create conflict and couldn't use the gay angle, but it didn't make sense why he hated Jack. I know when they first met Jack impersonated a chef, but that can't be the reason.
Both Roper and Furley liked Jack.

I'm especially referring to that episode with his daughter. Jack did absolutely nothing wrong, yet he was worried about losing his job.

TVFactFan
06-19-2017, 07:31 PM
Why didn't Mr. Angelino not like Jack?
I get that TC was trying to create conflict and couldn't use the gay angle, but it didn't make sense why he hated Jack. I know when they first met Jack impersonated a chef, but that can't be the reason.
Both Roper and Furley liked Jack.

I'm especially referring to that episode with his daughter. Jack did absolutely nothing wrong, yet he was worried about losing his job.


Angelino was his boss so of course his relationship was going to be different from Roper and Furley's

Smartboy
06-19-2017, 08:39 PM
Why didn't Mr. Angelino not like Jack?
I get that TC was trying to create conflict and couldn't use the gay angle, but it didn't make sense why he hated Jack. I know when they first met Jack impersonated a chef, but that can't be the reason.
Both Roper and Furley liked Jack.

I'm especially referring to that episode with his daughter. Jack did absolutely nothing wrong, yet he was worried about losing his job.


I find it interesting that you mention not being able to use the gay angle. Is what you are saying that, but Mr. Angelino knew that Jack was not gay, he could not harass him for being gay?

Dianne3
06-20-2017, 04:26 PM
What I meant by the gay angle (I could have worded it better, but was in a rush) is when Jack had conflict with Roper and then Furley was that he had to pretend he was gay. But neither of them hated Jack.

But obviously with Mr. Angelino Jack didn't have to pretend to be gay. So TC had to come up with a different reason for their conflicts. It's why Mr. Angelino disliked Jack so much doesn't make sense.

Throughout TC's run, there was some older male Jack had conflict with. On Three's A Crowd, I believe Jack had conflict with his girlfriend's father.

TVFactFan
06-20-2017, 08:28 PM
What I meant by the gay angle (I could have worded it better, but was in a rush) is when Jack had conflict with Roper and then Furley was that he had to pretend he was gay. But neither of them hated Jack.

But obviously with Mr. Angelino Jack didn't have to pretend to be gay. So TC had to come up with a different reason for their conflicts. It's why Mr. Angelino disliked Jack so much doesn't make sense.

Throughout TC's run, there was some older male Jack had conflict with. On Three's A Crowd, I believe Jack had conflict with his girlfriend's father.


It was conflict because he was viewed as a KLUTZ by Mr. Angelino which is why he was always fired

Smartboy
06-20-2017, 10:57 PM
What I meant by the gay angle (I could have worded it better, but was in a rush) is when Jack had conflict with Roper and then Furley was that he had to pretend he was gay. But neither of them hated Jack.

But obviously with Mr. Angelino Jack didn't have to pretend to be gay. So TC had to come up with a different reason for their conflicts. It's why Mr. Angelino disliked Jack so much doesn't make sense.

Throughout TC's run, there was some older male Jack had conflict with. On Three's A Crowd, I believe Jack had conflict with his girlfriend's father.


In the first place, I see what you mean about how neither Mr. Roper nor Mr. Furley really disliked Jack. Also, I see your point about how, with Mr. Angelino, Jack did not have to pretend to be something that he was not. And yes, in "Three's a Crowd", Jack did have conflicts with his girlfriend's father. They always seemed to be butting heads over things that I thought were pretty silly.

Dianne3
06-21-2017, 04:29 PM
I just thought of that Jack also had a what I will call a mini-conflict with Felipe. The conflict with Felipe was believable. But Felipe didn't hate Jack.

The conflict with Mr. Angelino seemed forced.

JSP
06-21-2017, 04:43 PM
I just thought of that Jack also had a what I will call a mini-conflict with Felipe. The conflict with Felipe was believable. But Felipe didn't hate Jack.

The conflict with Mr. Angelino seemed forced. Well I do know Mr. Angelino seemed to be angry about Jack not bringing in enough business to the Bistro, if I recall.

JackJanetChrissy
06-22-2017, 01:09 PM
I just thought of that Jack also had a what I will call a mini-conflict with Felipe. The conflict with Felipe was believable. But Felipe didn't hate Jack.

The conflict with Mr. Angelino seemed forced.

I just took it as a typical jerk boss character. Some people are just nasty and overbearing for no reason, and Angelino treated most people (especially underlings) poorly.

The funny part of it was that when things were going Angelino's way, he loooved Jack and called him "son." But when things were not to his standards he gave Jack hell. Which is typical jerk boss stuff, on TV and in real life. :lol:

TV Guy
06-24-2017, 09:44 PM
Did they stop using the Regal Beagle when Jack's Bistro opened?

BigManMike
06-24-2017, 09:56 PM
Did they stop using the Regal Beagle when Jack's Bistro opened?

They still used it some during Seasons 7 and 8 when Jack's Bistro was open. Just not as much as in the past.

Dianne3
06-26-2017, 03:08 PM
The Mr. Angelino being a stereotypical jerk boss character makes sense.

I can't get this thread out of my mind. The reason is that TC stopped being relevant not long after the Bistro was opened. I don't know how many that post here saw TC in it's original run, but a show that was once talked about no longer was.

So, I completely changed my mind on something I posted earlier. I posted that TC should have done more with the Bistro. Now, I say the Bistro shouldn't have happened. The posters who said that Jack's character was compromised because he always wanted to be a chef made me do a lot of thinking.

One thing you can never do is change what a character's identity is about. Jack as a person was still the same guy, but is identity was in wanting to be a chef, to cook. Also Janet in some later episodes was not the same level headed, reasonable person. Only Larry was the same character at the end.

TVFactFan
06-26-2017, 04:49 PM
The Mr. Angelino being a stereotypical jerk boss character makes sense.

I can't get this thread out of my mind. The reason is that TC stopped being relevant not long after the Bistro was opened. I don't know how many that post here saw TC in it's original run, but a show that was once talked about no longer was.

So, I completely changed my mind on something I posted earlier. I posted that TC should have done more with the Bistro. Now, I say the Bistro shouldn't have happened. The posters who said that Jack's character was compromised because he always wanted to be a chef made me do a lot of thinking.

One thing you can never do is change what a character's identity is about. Jack as a person was still the same guy, but is identity was in wanting to be a chef, to cook. Also Janet in some later episodes was not the same level headed, reasonable person. Only Larry was the same character at the end.


I never had a boss like Angelino and if I did it would have been problems lol

JSP
06-26-2017, 07:12 PM
I think Mr. Angelino couldn't get away with being the way he was these days. Also, I don't recall if he ever had any female employees on the show. It was probably expected as a man to put up with that behavior and to not "whine" about it back then. But I can't imagine Mr. Angelino getting away with treating female employees the way he treated Jack. And yeah, I wouldn't put up with Angelino either these days. I'm a sensitive modern guy, lol.

JSP
06-26-2017, 07:26 PM
The Mr. Angelino being a stereotypical jerk boss character makes sense.

I can't get this thread out of my mind. The reason is that TC stopped being relevant not long after the Bistro was opened. I don't know how many that post here saw TC in it's original run, but a show that was once talked about no longer was.

So, I completely changed my mind on something I posted earlier. I posted that TC should have done more with the Bistro. Now, I say the Bistro shouldn't have happened. The posters who said that Jack's character was compromised because he always wanted to be a chef made me do a lot of thinking.

One thing you can never do is change what a character's identity is about. Jack as a person was still the same guy, but is identity was in wanting to be a chef, to cook. Also Janet in some later episodes was not the same level headed, reasonable person. Only Larry was the same character at the end. The Sex Humor is what put TC on the map. By Season 7 what made the show famous in the first place was long in the past. The show evolved into something boring and much less edgy over time. Three's Company never would have become a hit if it was a workplace comedy about life in The Bistro. Just remember that. Would have been a show for a totally different demographic.

Mr. Television
06-26-2017, 07:43 PM
A show only has so many years in it and TC just ran out of story ideas. I liked some of the episodes from the last 2 seasons but yea it was getting to be old hat. And ABC's whole Tuesday night lineup was in decline around that time.

JackJanetChrissy
06-30-2017, 09:43 AM
The Sex Humor is what put TC on the map. By Season 7 what made the show famous in the first place was long in the past. The show evolved into something boring and much less edgy over time. Three's Company never would have become a hit if it was a workplace comedy about life in The Bistro. Just remember that. Would have been a show for a totally different demographic.


This is it exactly. At the beginning it was considered risque and titillating. By the end it was just silly buffoonery. Even the clothes changed as the show moved from the braless free-wheeling 70s to the conservative neck-to-knees coverage of the 80s. I guess you could say that the characters "grew up," but growing up is no fun! :lol:

Dianne3
06-30-2017, 03:20 PM
If it weren't for all the cast changes between season 3-6, would TC have become irrelevant even sooner?

Season 7 was the first time since Season 2 that the cast was stable.
(I know it was still the same cast for Season 3, but by that time preparations were already being made for the Ropers Series.)

JSP
06-30-2017, 04:18 PM
If it weren't for all the cast changes between season 3-6, would TC have become irrelevant even sooner?

Season 7 was the first time since Season 2 that the cast was stable.
(I know it was still the same cast for Season 3, but by that time preparations were already being made for the Ropers Series.) Most hit shows back then seemed to last 5 seasons or so. Audiences would start losing interest in a show around Season 3 and then ratings would drop off into eventual cancellation after 5 years. I am sure if Three's Company had no cast changes the show would have fizzled out and ended after Season 6 or 7. I think the cast changes made the show last an extra 1 or 2 years than it otherwise would have. At the time Three's Company's reign was very long for a show: 8 seasons. These days plenty of hit shows last longer than 8 seasons, but audiences seemed more fickle at the time. Ironic considering there were only 3 networks back then! Point being, I don't think the show would have lasted longer than it did if no cast changes occurred. The odds would have not been in the show's favor.

JackJanetChrissy
07-01-2017, 01:43 PM
If it weren't for all the cast changes between season 3-6, would TC have become irrelevant even sooner?

Season 7 was the first time since Season 2 that the cast was stable.
(I know it was still the same cast for Season 3, but by that time preparations were already being made for the Ropers Series.)

I think it would've ended sooner if the cast had not changed. The Chrissy character would have become even more gratingly stupid, and that would have eventually worn itself out. And I love the Ropers but the one-note jokes about their dissatisfied marriage would've been difficult to sustain for 8 years.

I love the original cast the best, but the addition of Furley, Cindy, and Terri kept the show alive.

Dianne3
07-26-2017, 04:19 PM
Last night, I noticed another employee that quit on Jack.

It was in the episode where Furley works in the kitchen and Larry sings.
Jack mentioned to Furley that his worker quit, so then Furley volunteered.

So Jack's only 2 employees either didn't want to come in to work or quit. I assume it was not the same person. In the episode where the Bistro opened, Jack gets a call that someone he hired wasn't going to come in to work.

Why Jack just couldn't hire another person? Of course then, half the plot would be gone. LOL!!!