Supposedly he was never caught night be 70 or 80 also the person really hated woman or had bad relationships with woman. Do you think it was a truck driver bad cop. He has not been caught for a very long time.

Supposedly he was never caught night be 70 or 80 also the person really hated woman or had bad relationships with woman. Do you think it was a truck driver bad cop. He has not been caught for a very long time.
the stuff I read about on here from before theorized that he worked at department or retail shops in his past and had inside knowledge of how they are managed. I think his crimes will remain unsolved. I wonder if law enforcement had any decent suspects. I know there were some theories online. This case was featured on another network back about 7 years ago or so.

the stuff I read about on here from before theorized that he worked at department or retail shops in his past and had inside knowledge of how they are managed. I think his crimes will remain unsolved. I wonder if law enforcement had any decent suspects. I know there were some theories online. This case was featured on another network back about 7 years ago or so.

I've always had a theory and strong suspicion that the culprit worked in a traveling job for retail at the time the murders were committed. I don't think I ever shared it on here, but I believe that we were dealing with someone who had a job as some sort of retail district or regional manager who traveled the I-70 corridor for work.

I've always had a theory and strong suspicion that the culprit worked in a traveling job for retail at the time the murders were committed. I don't think I ever shared it on here, but I believe that we were dealing with someone who had a job as some sort of retail district or regional manager who traveled the I-70 corridor for work.

I could see that. I've speculated he might have worked for a distributor, or had some type of job that involved a transfer from the midwest to the south around mid-1993.

I could see that. I've speculated he might have worked for a distributor, or had some type of job that involved a transfer from the midwest to the south around mid-1993.
That a very interesting theory.

I've always had a theory and strong suspicion that the culprit worked in a traveling job for retail at the time the murders were committed. I don't think I ever shared it on here, but I believe that we were dealing with someone who had a job as some sort of retail district or regional manager who traveled the I-70 corridor for work.
It sounds like a interesting theory cause the killer would have to travel alot so maybe he was a traveling salesman or a truck driver . And he did know the layout of the stores well so maybe it was a inside job why do you think he stoped killing.

It sounds like a interesting theory cause the killer would have to travel alot so maybe he was a traveling salesman or a truck driver . And he did know the layout of the stores well so maybe it was a inside job why do you think he stoped killing.

There's this common assumption that serial killers only stop because they are either caught for a different crime or they died. One thing that never seems to enter the equation is that they quit on their own.

However, there is a common thread in serial killer profiles that they are quite often people lashing out because they are timid individuals in their personal and professional lives. I think fear motivates some of them to stop. I think the Zodiac Killer was a prime example of this. He stopped killing after the murder of Paul Stine in October 1969. During this attack, he was witnessed by teenagers across the street and possibly spotted by police who drove by him. I think he panicked because he'd gotten too cocky going after the cab driver, and he held back after that. I think the same could be true of the I-70 Killer. It's possible that some close call put him off doing it again. The media like to portray serial killers as people with an uncontrollable compulsion to kill, but that is not particularly accurate. While their crimes are acts of compulsion, that compulsion isn't necessarily an uncontrollable one.

There's this common assumption that serial killers only stop because they are either caught for a different crime or they died. One thing that never seems to enter the equation is that they quit on their own.

However, there is a common thread in serial killer profiles that they are quite often people lashing out because they are timid individuals in their personal and professional lives. I think fear motivates some of them to stop. I think the Zodiac Killer was a prime example of this. He stopped killing after the murder of Paul Stine in October 1969. During this attack, he was witnessed by teenagers across the street and possibly spotted by police who drove by him. I think he panicked because he'd gotten too cocky going after the cab driver, and he held back after that. I think the same could be true of the I-70 Killer. It's possible that some close call put him off doing it again. The media like to portray serial killers as people with an uncontrollable compulsion to kill, but that is not particularly accurate. While their crimes are acts of compulsion, that compulsion isn't necessarily an uncontrollable one.
That very true when I was in criminology class we learned that they never stop on their own accord unless they want to after a certain number of kills.

Ugh so I was looking up patsy wrights cold case profile on the Arlington Texas website and Amy Vess had a page on there as well. The place she was murdered was directly next to a Mexican restaurant I used to eat at back in that same time. Glad I never knew that as a kid. I guess this is why Arlington Texas is mentioned at the end of the segment.

[QUOTE=DALLASTEXAN!!]Ugh so I was looking up patsy wrights cold case profile on the Arlington Texas website and Amy Vess had a page on there as well. The place she was murdered was directly next to a Mexican restaurant I used to eat at back in that same time. Glad I never knew that as a kid. I guess this is why Arlington Texas is mentioned at the end of the segment. The one with the skull outside or the lawn.

I have not posted on here in some time, but I just read about an unsolved murder of Janette Roberson in Michigan in the early 1980s. While it is off the path of I-70, the composite sketch is a dead ringer for the composite of our i-70 killer. I can't find any mention of a connection on line, but the similarities are shocking to say the least. The main difference seems to be the actual method of killing. Been a while since I've seen the case profiled, but as I recall, I-70 killer used an automatic pistol that resembled a small machine gun (this stood out because of the unique look of the weapon). But anyway, Janette Roberson was killed by blunt force trauma and there was sexual assault. I don't recall if any sexual assault had taken place in the i-70 cases. But with those two exceptions, the case seems to be identical.

For comparison, the I-70 killer composite:
https://ganglandwire.com/i-70-killer/

And composite of the suspect in the Roberson case
http://justiceforjanette.weebly.com


Very similar. Especially the one on the right. These things are never spot on of course, but these seem extremely close in appearance to me.

For comparison, the I-70 killer composite:
https://ganglandwire.com/i-70-killer/

And composite of the suspect in the Roberson case
http://justiceforjanette.weebly.com


Very similar. Especially the one on the right. These things are never spot on of course, but these seem extremely close in appearance to me.

Oh yeah. When you add up all the stuff in the 2 cases that are completely different and then add up the one dubious similarity, I can see where you think they might be related :crazy:

For comparison, the I-70 killer composite:
https://ganglandwire.com/i-70-killer/

And composite of the suspect in the Roberson case
http://justiceforjanette.weebly.com


Very similar. Especially the one on the right. These things are never spot on of course, but these seem extremely close in appearance to me.

Regardless of what other folks may say, I appreciate your insights. ;)

Glad you're back posting! :D

Regardless of what other folks may say, I appreciate your insights. ;)

Glad you're back posting! :D


I'd like to echo what Mr Ricci said. Welcome back good sir:wave:

I'd like to echo what Mr Ricci said. Welcome back good sir:wave:

Mr. Ricci has his hands full

My point is that the sketches are very similar. And over all, the execution (no pun intended) is not far off. The biggest difference is blunt force rather than gun. I would say there are more similarities than differences when you add them up. Plus like I said, the sketches are very similar. Not saying it is the same person for certain, but it might be worth looking at it.

And thank you all for the "welcome backs" 😁

Gonna try not to be so long between posts as I have been. Just been busy with some projects as well as work.

Regardless of what other folks may say, I appreciate your insights. ;)

Glad you're back posting! :D those composites look very identical to each other.

Also, found this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/5kb548/where_is_the_i70_killer_now/

Will look into it more later though. Already up too late lol

Also, found this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/5kb548/where_is_the_i70_killer_now/

Will look into it more later though. Already up too late lol
Very interesting if the killer was still al8ve how old will he be.

Very interesting if the killer was still al8ve how old will he be.

One thing is for certain here. You can always count on Macbeth to add some thoughtful and intriguing insight.

Yesterday was the 25th anniversary of Sarah Blessing's murder. She would be the last killed in the Midwest by the I-70 Killer until the killer allegedly moved south and started killing in Texas in 1993 and 1994.

Yesterday was the 25th anniversary of Sarah Blessing's murder. She would be the last killed in the Midwest by the I-70 Killer until the killer allegedly moved south and started killing in Texas in 1993 and 1994.
So he went to Texas maybe then the killer was a truck driver or a salesman or a cop.

I have always thought Donald Blom was a possibility for being the I-70 killer. He is serving a life without parole sentence for a notorious 1999 kidnap, rape and murder here in Minnesota. So notorious he for several years had to serve his sentence at an out of state prison.

That Reddit thread is really interesting. I have a hard time believing they're one in the same, but honestly I find it a whole lot scarier to think that they're unrelated, and TWO serial killers were killing at the same time and place. I've always thought the I-70 killer was a delivery driver or something like that. Someone who had reason to travel, worked alone, and wasn't really seen or interacted with by customers for an extended period of time. If he'd been a traveling salesman, someone surely would've recognized him, or at least it'd be more probable.

I just watched the Boston rapist do you think they could be connected he also did crimes at strip malls.

I just watched the Boston rapist do you think they could be connected he also did crimes at strip malls.

The two cases aren't remotely related. Going by your reasoning, all violent crimes at strip malls during this period would be related. Someone needs to sit down with you and have a good chat, Mrs Macbeth. Show you the ways of man and how things get done around here. I'm thinking Dyno or Cars

The two cases aren't remotely related. Going by your reasoning, all violent crimes at strip malls during this period would be related. Someone needs to sit down with you and have a good chat, Mrs Macbeth. Show you the ways of man and how things get done around here. I'm thinking Dyno or Cars
Well killers can move areas and if he was not killing people before he can start doing it later when his mood changes.

Well killers can move areas and if he was not killing people before he can start doing it later when his mood changes.

Well killers can move areas and if he was not killing people before he can start doing it later when his mood changes.

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My original thoughts on this was that the two cases I mentioned could possibly be related. This is because of the similarity in the composite sketches as well as the crimes themselves. I'm not an expert by any means, but if you have a traveling killer that has a certain MO, and the composite sketches are similar, it is not out of the realm of possibility they could be connected. The differences in the MO are few, but that must be taken into consideration as well.

As far as the Boston case, I'm not certain off the top of my head which case you are referring to. But if that was a straight up rape case, that doesn't seem connected to me even though sexual assault did occur in the Roberson case.

If the I-70 and Roberson cases are connected, and I honestly don't know if they are or not, my guess would be that the killer knew Roberson at least in passing. He became obsessed to some degree and perhaps after being brushed off or rejected, he turned violent, then assaulted and killed her. It is possible he got more gratification from the actual killing rather than the rape, and continued to kill up and down I-70 (and possibly other cases such as the potential Texas cases) after retooling his method slightly.

It would be interesting to go through and compare photos of the victims to one another and see if any of them resemble each other in any way. The killer may be reliving the original crime with each murder.

My original thoughts on this was that the two cases I mentioned could possibly be related. This is because of the similarity in the composite sketches as well as the crimes themselves. I'm not an expert by any means, but if you have a traveling killer that has a certain MO, and the composite sketches are similar, it is not out of the realm of possibility they could be connected. The differences in the MO are few, but that must be taken into consideration as well.

As far as the Boston case, I'm not certain off the top of my head which case you are referring to. But if that was a straight up rape case, that doesn't seem connected to me even though sexual assault did occur in the Roberson case.

If the I-70 and Roberson cases are connected, and I honestly don't know if they are or not, my guess would be that the killer knew Roberson at least in passing. He became obsessed to some degree and perhaps after being brushed off or rejected, he turned violent, then assaulted and killed her. It is possible he got more gratification from the actual killing rather than the rape, and continued to kill up and down I-70 (and possibly other cases such as the potential Texas cases) after retooling his method slightly.

It would be interesting to go through and compare photos of the victims to one another and see if any of them resemble each other in any way. The killer may be reliving the original crime with each murder.
The case I am referring to is the Boston rapist he would rob and rape his victims as opposed to killing them there were all woman he never was caught so he co7pd have changed his mo to kill all the woman he encountered instead and the one guy he killed. Same thing happend with the Cleveland torso murder and the black dahila.

The case I am referring to is the Boston rapist he would rob and rape his victims as opposed to killing them there were all woman he never was caught so he co7pd have changed his mo to kill all the woman he encountered instead and the one guy he killed. Same thing happend with the Cleveland torso murder and the black dahila.

Got ya. Just looked this one up. I do recall this one somewhat. Since he didn't kill his victims, I would have to say they were unrelated IMO. But the strip mall similarity is interesting. But suppose strip malls can offer quick in and out opportunities, often with only 1 or 2 clerks to worry about in mom and pop shops.

But while I can see a rape and murder case escalating into a string of serial killings, I am not sure that it would turn into a serial rape case. If the Roberson case had been something different - let's say instead of beaten to death, she had been accidentally strangled while being subdued, I would think maybe the cases could be related. But as it stands, I don't think the Roberson killer had any question that he was going to kill her based on what I have read. So with murder being likely part of the intent from the get go, I think it is safe to say the Boston case is separate. Plus the sketch is drastically different.

I do still wonder about the I-70 and Roberson cases though. But again, I am no expert.

Dollars to donuts these cases aren't related. Just because they share a common location, various strip malls, does not in any way make these cases similar. No relation to each other what so ever. Drop this line of thinking and move on. Spinning your wheels trying to connect these two.

Got ya. Just looked this one up. I do recall this one somewhat. Since he didn't kill his victims, I would have to say they were unrelated IMO. But the strip mall similarity is interesting. But suppose strip malls can offer quick in and out opportunities, often with only 1 or 2 clerks to worry about in mom and pop shops.

But while I can see a rape and murder case escalating into a string of serial killings, I am not sure that it would turn into a serial rape case. If the Roberson case had been something different - let's say instead of beaten to death, she had been accidentally strangled while being subdued, I would think maybe the cases could be related. But as it stands, I don't think the Roberson killer had any question that he was going to kill her based on what I have read. So with murder being likely part of the intent from the get go, I think it is safe to say the Boston case is separate. Plus the sketch is drastically different.

I do still wonder about the I-70 and Roberson cases though. But again, I am no expert.
The Boston rapist and the i70 killer were never caught .

Dollars to donuts these cases aren't related. Just because they share a common location, various strip malls, does not in any way make these cases similar. No relation to each other what so ever. Drop this line of thinking and move on. Spinning your wheels trying to connect these two.

The point I was making was that the cases are similar and that the composite sketches are very similar. Does this mean it is 100% the same person? No. But you saying for a fact they are not related is rather asinine to be honest. Unless you have access to the case files of each, I respectfully say that you don't know they aren't connected any more than I do. In fact, they probably aren't. But, since this is a forum to discuss UM cases and theorize about them, I would say I have every right to discuss the matter.

The point I was making was that the cases are similar and that the composite sketches are very similar. Does this mean it is 100% the same person? No. But you saying for a fact they are not related is rather asinine to be honest. Unless you have access to the case files of each, I respectfully say that you don't know they aren't connected any more than I do. In fact, they probably aren't. But, since this is a forum to discuss UM cases and theorize about them, I would say I have every right to discuss the matter.
This is what the forms are for to discuss.

The point I was making was that the cases are similar and that the composite sketches are very similar. Does this mean it is 100% the same person? No. But you saying for a fact they are not related is rather asinine to be honest. Unless you have access to the case files of each, I respectfully say that you don't know they aren't connected any more than I do. In fact, they probably aren't. But, since this is a forum to discuss UM cases and theorize about them, I would say I have every right to discuss the matter.

You have the right to discuss whatever you like. Just as I have the right to point out that trying to link these 2 cases is preposterous. If you really think these 2 cases have so many similarities that they have to be connected, compile all your evidence and let law enforcement know. I'd love to know what hat that result would be. In the mean time, I'm entitled to ridicule your straw man argument.

You have the right to discuss whatever you like. Just as I have the right to point out that trying to link these 2 cases is preposterous. If you really think these 2 cases have so many similarities that they have to be connected, compile all your evidence and let law enforcement know. I'd love to know what hat that result would be. In the mean time, I'm entitled to ridicule your straw man argument.

The info that has been released to the public shows more similarities than differences. I don't know that they are connected. I have said that many times. I am merely discussing the thread topic. Your posts are becoming more hostile and personal however and are adding nothing at this point. You have made your point. If you don't agree, feel free to post constructive responses. But simply ordering anyone to drop the line of discussion because you personally don't agree is quite frankly rude and basically amounts to trolling at this point. If you don't wish to discuss the topic civilly, I respectfully ask that you please not comment any further. Thank you.

Well the i70 killer was never caught same with the Boston rapist.

You have the right to discuss whatever you like. Just as I have the right to point out that trying to link these 2 cases is preposterous. If you really think these 2 cases have so many similarities that they have to be connected, compile all your evidence and let law enforcement know. I'd love to know what hat that result would be. In the mean time, I'm entitled to ridicule your straw man argument.

Actually, you're allowed to disagree with someone in a civil manner. You're not allowed to "ridicule" them.

Just thought I'd throw in my two cents there.

Well the i70 killer was never caught same with the Boston rapist.
Maybe they can try to find dna and solve these cases. Of the killer.

Would be nice. DNA work is sadly backlogged though. I don't know the exact statistics, but it seems I have heard in the past that cold cases are generally a few years or more back logged. I believe newer cases get priority, understandably. But it has to be frustrating to families of victims as well as cold case detectives.

Would be nice. DNA work is sadly backlogged though. I don't know the exact statistics, but it seems I have heard in the past that cold cases are generally a few years or more back logged. I believe newer cases get priority, understandably. But it has to be frustrating to families of victims as well as cold case detectives.
That is kind of sad and disappointing because the i70 killer killed alot of people .

Actually, you're allowed to disagree with someone in a civil manner. You're not allowed to "ridicule" them.

Just thought I'd throw in my two cents there.

I understand that. I should have been more specific. I meant to ridicule the assertion that the two cases are similar or connected in anyway. However, I could have used a term other than ridicule. It was meant specifically for that line of reasoning, not directed at any one individual. I will try n make sure that any future comments will not be construed as a slight against any specific individual.

That is kind of sad and disappointing because the i70 killer killed alot of people .
Hopefully they can vote on this.

I have recently watched both cases. I do not see what the others do in that these two cases are similar and committed by the same person.

I have recently watched both cases. I do not see what the others do in that these two cases are similar and committed by the same person.

I think there may be some confusion here.

In all 3 separate cases have been discussed
- I-70 killer (which was profiled on Unsolved Mysteries)
- Janette Roberson case (not profiled on Unsolved Mysteries)
- The Boston Rapist (which was profiled on Unsolved Mysteries)

My thoughts are that there is a remote possibility that the Roberson case could be linked to the I-70 killer due to the very strong resemblance in the two composite sketches and several similarities in the crimes themselves. While not all points in those cases match, many do. But what caught my attention was the composite sketches looking so much alike.

Another poster then noted that the Boston Rapist case shared some similarity to the I-70 killings, most notably of occurring in a strip mall. However, the sketch looks drastically different from the other two and the Boston rapist left his victims alive so it is a very different MO.

However, in all likelihood these are all 3 separate cases. But I do believe it is at least possible that the I-70 and Roberson killer COULD be one in the same.

Hopefully they can vote on this for there family's.

I really do think and believe that the Boston mall rapist became the i70 killer.

I really do think and believe that the Boston mall rapist became the i70 killer.

I am not. They are different perps. The suspects are reported to have different body types. Boston Rapist was a fat guy, while I-70 was skinny with lazy eyelids.

Furthermore, their MOs are very different. The Boston Rapist sexually assaulted his victims but did not kill them. I-70 killed his victims but did not touch them and barely engaged with them. This would be a very, very odd jump in MO, as usually serial killers tend to escalate in violence and get closer to the victims as they become more comfortable.

Investigators remain hopeful that they’ll find the so-called ‘I-70 Killer’ (http://fox59.com/2017/05/22/investigators-remain-hopeful-that-theyll-find-so-called-i-70-killer/)

Nothing really new, but the case was profiled on an Indianapolis Fox affiliate on May 22, 2017.

Nice to know law enforcement is still trying to solve it.

Like last summer's update, the case still gets attention in Indiana (article below is from a different local source).

http://www.wibc.com/news/local-news/indiana-cold-case-i-70-serial-killer

This case may be difficult to solve if the killer did not leave any DNA. If he did leave DNA, he will be caught in the same way DeAngelo and Talbot were.

I'm confused what people are to be voting on?

This case may be difficult to solve if the killer did not leave any DNA. If he did leave DNA, he will be caught in the same way DeAngelo and Talbot were.

I'd be curious to know if he did leave DNA at any of the scenes? If he did, then yeah, it'd just be a matter of the investigators submitting to the right database so to speak

I really do think and believe that the Boston mall rapist became the i70 killer.

I wonder what led the authorities to believe that the murder in Texas (different gun used, IIRC and nowhere near I-70) was committed by the same killer.

I wonder what led the authorities to believe that the murder in Texas (different gun used, IIRC and nowhere near I-70) was committed by the same killer.

That’s a good question. I assume it was the method, but I wonder if there is more to it? I would have been fine had they left that last bit out of the segment.

That’s a good question. I assume it was the method, but I wonder if there is more to it? I would have been fine had they left that last bit out of the segment.

Apparently there was more than 1 murder in the Houston area (only 1 gets mentioned at the end of the segment), but the authorities in Texas did not believe it to be linked to the I-70 Killer. The mid-western authorities do think they are related but don't really specify as to why other than same type of weapon and similar M.O.

Apparently there was more than 1 murder in the Houston area (only 1 gets mentioned at the end of the segment), but the authorities in Texas did not believe it to be linked to the I-70 Killer. The mid-western authorities do think they are related but don't really specify as to why other than same type of weapon and similar M.O.

I think I have read once before that they dubbed an "IH 45 killer" in Texas sometime in the 90's. I don't remember if the Houston murders were a part of that. I would need to have another look for more details.

the murder mentioned on the segment took place in Arlington and is approx. 30 min drive from IH 45, the interstate that links dallas and houston. If one were traveling the itinerary on the segment, to Texas, they would have to travel down Interstate 35 to get to Interstate 45. A driver has the option to go through dallas or fort worth because 35 splits into 2 Interstates shortly after you cross the Okla border into Texas.

The murder from the UM segment: It was a young girl that worked at a privately owned clothing store similar to the ones in the IH 70 segment. The shop was also in a shopping centre that in that time would have been similar to the ones that were in the segment. It was located approx. half a mile from IH 20.

https://nealfallsinvestigation.wordpress.com/

Have we discussed Neal Falls as a suspect?

https://nealfallsinvestigation.wordpress.com/

Have we discussed Neal Falls as a suspect?

His MO seems completely different, IMO.

http://www.upcpodcast.com/season1blog/2017/1/20/26-serial-killers-the-house-on-fox-hollow-farm

Known as the I-70 Strangler for a series of murders in the midwest in 1980's, Herb Baumeister eventually becomes even more known for turning his massive estate into an enormous gravesite. This horrific string of sexual strangulation murders has us wondering: what kind of person is capable of such a thing? This episode is a look into the psychological profile of Herb Baumeister and details of his infamous murder spree. The following story of a man who escaped being murdered by Baumeister is true, but his name has been changed to protect his own privacy.

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Another theory....

http://www.upcpodcast.com/season1blog/2017/1/20/26-serial-killers-the-house-on-fox-hollow-farm

Known as the I-70 Strangler for a series of murders in the midwest in 1980's, Herb Baumeister eventually becomes even more known for turning his massive estate into an enormous gravesite. This horrific string of sexual strangulation murders has us wondering: what kind of person is capable of such a thing? This episode is a look into the psychological profile of Herb Baumeister and details of his infamous murder spree. The following story of a man who escaped being murdered by Baumeister is true, but his name has been changed to protect his own privacy.

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Another theory....

The I-70 Strangler murders began in 1980 where all victims were male, with the I-70 Killer-who murdered women from 1992. It is hard to see how both could be the work of the same person-one seemed to hate gays & strangled them to death, while the other seemed to hate women & shot them to death.

I still think it was a cop or truck driver

There have been new disappearances in neveda the man just disappeared only his dog was left could it have been the i 70 killee

I always wondered if he was either caught or died. This case is difficult since it seems like he was just a passerby type who just looked for the right place to hit

There have been new disappearances in neveda the man just disappeared only his dog was left could it have been the i 70 killee

Not very likely-he would be 60 plus by now, he was only killing women-the guy was shot from behind in error as he had a ponytail & he wasn't kidnapping people.

I always wonder if he did indeed move to Texas.

There have been new disappearances in neveda the man just disappeared only his dog was left could it have been the i 70 killee

Was that the Patrick Carnes case?

https://www.8newsnow.com/news/i-team-is-a-serial-killer-hunting-motorists-in-northern-nevada/

These random I-70 killings are chilling & horrific. I wonder why he stopped his killing spree? As was suggested in a previous post - I suspect he may have either died, or was arrested & put in jail for an unrelated crime(s).

Though it's obvious he didn't know his victims, since most of them were women it sounded like he had some kind of vendetta against them. Robbery didn't appear to be a motive in any of these crimes.

I think it was brought up somewhere else, but I really think the IH 70 Killer from UM was Herb Baumeister. the eyes really look like the sketch which were described as lazy eye lids, and the location fits as he was from Indiana near IH 70. he was also a store manager, so that also seems that he would have familiararity to attack people in stores. he died in 1996 around the time that the IH 70 killings stopped. he was also responsible for murders committed in the IH 70 corridor prior to the ones featured on UM.

It doesn't fit Baumeister's MO though of killing men he was having sex with. In all likelihood there are probably several "I-70 Killers", because the I-70 crimes he was being looked at involved gay men who had disappeared from bar scenes to be dumped in isolated rural locations.

It doesn't fit Baumeister's MO though of killing men he was having sex with. In all likelihood there are probably several "I-70 Killers", because the I-70 crimes he was being looked at involved gay men who had disappeared from bar scenes to be dumped in isolated rural locations.
That’s true. There could have been multiple killers and the murders on UM might not of been him. But I do think there are some things that can’t be overlooked. He killed a lot of people and I have heard that not all of his victims have been identified, but don’t know if that’s true. Serial killers do change over time and investigators use profiling, but profiling has pitfalls because people can have different motives at different times. the IH 70 killings on UM were random and the person seemed to target specific locations and women or men that would submit to him. UM did have a man featured in one of the killings and of corse the most memorable part of the segment is when he let the guy leave the bridal shop. He did try to take the guy to the back of the store and the guy would not follow his instructions. What’s alarming is that he could of just shot the guy on the spot, but if the guy went to the back of the store I think he would have killed him.

I wonder if he left any forensic evidence behind? I read that he tied the women up, perhaps that would possibly leave fingerprints. Hopefully authorities re-test whatever evidence they have from this case, maybe with forensic technology advancements something will be found.

the latest edition, or the one before it, of People has an article about the search for the I-70 killer in it. its on my reading shelf.

I watched a newer documentary on I 70 from People Magazine. It has 2 parts. I saw the 1st part last year and forgot about part two online! Got it 3 days ago! A really odd thing was mentioned and shocked me. A detective said years later a witness came fwd: he said right around the time of one lady's murder at one of the stores a guy asked a construction foreman if he was hiring. The foreman told the stranger to follow him back to the trailer/mobile office. Now if someone is gonna kill a guy they usually follow him normally on the road and then bang/ act weird!! Well this guy/fake job applicant was tailgating him and driving weird! After they arrived at the foreman 's trailer the weird-evil guy held him up w a gun, the strange thing is his girlfriend or wife was the one who handed the driver a gun from the backseat! The construction foreman acted quickly by running back into his truck and driving off. Cool. The "odd couple" drove after him into the scary lonely wooded area. He however knew the wooded area and eventually lost them! I have to watch this again tonight. The detective kind of implied maybe this guy (with the gf) is the serial i70 killer. Wow. If the I 70 killer always parked on the side roads or off the interstate - if his gf is waiting for him he can get out of there minutes faster. He dont have to get to his car, start the engine, and make a scene - as his gf or wife is there. And if he always had a gf or wife he would not stand out to people as a strange loner in the yrs after...

Update: I watched People Magazine Video on the i 70 killer again and they said the man who almost went inside the bridal store where 2 women were just murdered was asked to compare the killer's looks, clothing attire, and gun. (this was the african american guy scene on UM.) I thought detectives lost track of this witness!? Good thing they kept in touch. Anyways, this man said both guys (bridal store vs construction site) looked the same in appearance AND clothing and perhaps the same gun was used! Wow. So most likely the I_70 killer had a female companion who drove the getaway car for all his murders or for a few of them. She needs to be caught too now for murder. Wheres this sketchy woman's sketch at? [I do not think the Texas attempted murder was the same serial killer.]

UPDATE 2: When I re-watched part two of "People Magazine investigates the I-70 killer" they said they received exclusive new info from the case. (This is the part where I typed above about the 'construction boss' almost getting killed by this young couple in a car on the same day as one of the crimes.) This is why I never heard about this shocking new detail - it was only released to People Magazine 2 or 3 years ago!


I could see that. I've speculated he might have worked for a distributor, or had some type of job that involved a transfer from the midwest to the south around mid-1993.

A detective thinks maybe the i 70 guy worked construction.
Some construction workers work near home, but. .....others travel to nearby states to work on bigger projects. He or another detective said he knows who the i70 guy is and where he lives but can't say, not enuff evidence to say or arrest!
I've always had a theory and strong suspicion that the culprit worked in a traveling job for retail at the time the murders were committed. I don't think I ever shared it on here, but I believe that we were dealing with someone who had a job as some sort of retail district or regional manager who traveled the I-70 corridor for work.

How on earth did this case never get solved? The guy killed how many people along the same highway? And he never seemed to be shy about letting his face be shown. He even let an eyewitness leave the store on his own with the promise that he wouldn't call the police (which he did call them). Then doing one of the killings in broad daylight too. I would say these seemed like contract killings more than anything except that it was done along the same highway so I feel they are tied together.

How on earth did this case never get solved? The guy killed how many people along the same highway? And he never seemed to be shy about letting his face be shown. He even let an eyewitness leave the store on his own with the promise that he wouldn't call the police (which he did call them). Then doing one of the killings in broad daylight too. I would say these seemed like contract killings more than anything except that it was done along the same highway so I feel they are tied together.

Considering they have four photo-fits & none of them resemble each other, the lack of CCTV in that era & that the person doesn't pop up on any DNA databases-assuming the items they sent off would actually have his DNA on them, but they are assuming he didn't wear gloves, that they were handled/stored correctly & that he has a criminal record & how many regular people touch bridal gowns in a store?

This one will likely only get solved if a relative sends their DNA off to a Genealogy etc company & they get a hit. It appears this guy literally just went on a crazy spree in 1992, I am not convinced the other cases have anything to do with him & that he stopped probably means he was incarcerated for something else before DNA was taken & retained, or he died/killed himself.

The idea this guy was on a rampage for a month, then stopped-moved to Texas & then started up again a year & a half or so later, yet only did half the murders/attempted murders in four months than he did in one & with a different gun & then moved back nearly a decade after the original murders & killed one guy with another gun before stopping is fanciful.

A detective in a newer true crime show said he believes the killer is alive. He knows who the I-70 killer is and where he lives but cant say to the media. The fascinating thing about Unsolved Mysteries and old murders from the 80s and early 90s is that detectives sometimes know who did it and that the killers are usually local and not a killing spree traveler. Like in this I-70 case and in the case in Pennsylvania where the coach dad got donuts and was killed driving home. The detectives know who it is, he is local. In other cases too from UM and other shows. I was surprised that some of these segments it seemed like a "oh, this will never get solved, ever". And come to find out in later shows or online articles (where more information is finally revealed!) the killer never moved even many years later! Some killers get the heck out of there when police start asking them Qs. A few killers simply dont give a crap and toy with the cops and like it when the local police cannot arrest them. They stay around for the game of it.

Considering they have four photo-fits & none of them resemble each other, the lack of CCTV in that era & that the person doesn't pop up on any DNA databases-assuming the items they sent off would actually have his DNA on them, but they are assuming he didn't wear gloves, that they were handled/stored correctly & that he has a criminal record & how many regular people touch bridal gowns in a store?

This one will likely only get solved if a relative sends their DNA off to a Genealogy etc company & they get a hit. It appears this guy literally just went on a crazy spree in 1992, I am not convinced the other cases have anything to do with him & that he stopped probably means he was incarcerated for something else before DNA was taken & retained, or he died/killed himself.

The idea this guy was on a rampage for a month, then stopped-moved to Texas & then started up again a year & a half or so later, yet only did half the murders/attempted murders in four months than he did in one & with a different gun & then moved back nearly a decade after the original murders & killed one guy with another gun before stopping is fanciful.

A detective in a newer true crime show said he believes the killer is alive. He knows who the I-70 killer is and where he lives but cant say to the media. The fascinating thing about Unsolved Mysteries and old murders from the 80s and early 90s is that detectives sometimes know who did it and that the killers are usually local and not a killing spree traveler. Like in this I-70 case and in the case in Pennsylvania where the coach dad got donuts and was killed driving home. The detectives know who it is, he is local. In other cases too from UM and other shows. I was surprised that some of these segments it seemed like a "oh, this will never get solved, ever". And come to find out in later shows or online articles (where more information is finally revealed!) the killer never moved even many years later! Some killers get the heck out of there when police start asking them Qs. A few killers simply dont give a crap and toy with the cops and like it when the local police cannot arrest them. They stay around for the game of it.

If they know who it is they should arrest him. If they don't have the evidence how do they know who it is? I am calling a bluff with the detective. This isn't like a Donny Hansen thing where you know the guy was involved but he somehow got off during the trial and you can't try him again. But you know he did it. This is a guy he is talking about that has never had anything against him tested in court.

Unfortunately this happens more than we know. Detectives know who did it but do not have enough evidence to arrest. This does not always mean that they have zero evidence. For example, police may have 2 separate pieces of evidence yet both are weak. They cannot arrest someone simply because 'they know' who did it! It comes down to more than that.

QUOTE=Clockwork;6236755]If they know who it is they should arrest him. If they don't have the evidence how do they know who it is? I am calling a bluff with the detective. This isn't like a Donny Hansen thing where you know the guy was involved but he somehow got off during the trial and you can't try him again. But you know he did it. This is a guy he is talking about that has never had anything against him tested in court.[/QUOTE]

A detective in a newer true crime show said he believes the killer is alive. He knows who the I-70 killer is and where he lives but cant say to the media. The fascinating thing about Unsolved Mysteries and old murders from the 80s and early 90s is that detectives sometimes know who did it and that the killers are usually local and not a killing spree traveler. Like in this I-70 case and in the case in Pennsylvania where the coach dad got donuts and was killed driving home. The detectives know who it is, he is local. In other cases too from UM and other shows. I was surprised that some of these segments it seemed like a "oh, this will never get solved, ever". And come to find out in later shows or online articles (where more information is finally revealed!) the killer never moved even many years later! Some killers get the heck out of there when police start asking them Qs. A few killers simply dont give a crap and toy with the cops and like it when the local police cannot arrest them. They stay around for the game of it.

I think the cops mostly fix on people & usually it is wrong-we saw this before DNA became a thing & a lot of people were incarcerated incorrectly based on their tunnel vision, biases & dodgy techniques-getting witnesses to look at pictures where the person they want to convicts picture is considerably larger than the others, identity line-ups where they make 'their guy' stand out from the others in terms of clothing/appearance, not recording interviews where beatings are alleged, keeping people awake all night then interviewing them, feeding the suspects facts they didn't know about the case & keep asking them until they 'get it right', denying them lawyers, writing false confessions out for them etc.

Look how many cops have their unwavering belief as to who the Zodiac Killer is, The Black Dahlia killer, how many disgruntled kids write books about how their father, grandfather or uncle were the killer in those cases-only one could be right & likely none of them are.

If they have a DNA sample & a probable cause then they can arrest the person & compare their DNA, they can even just do the old follow them around & wait for the discarded cigarette butt, coffee cup etc routine. Again more likely it is just another bitter old cop who hated somebody during their career & would love to fit them up for crimes/loves being in the spotlight-but cannot back any of it up with evidence.

If they know who it is they should arrest him. If they don't have the evidence how do they know who it is? I am calling a bluff with the detective. This isn't like a Donny Hansen thing where you know the guy was involved but he somehow got off during the trial and you can't try him again. But you know he did it. This is a guy he is talking about that has never had anything against him tested in court.

They don't & history is littered with people locked up for years, decades, still incarcerated or executed because tunnel vision cops 'knew' who did it from the start of the investigation & railroaded those people into jail based on their hunches & personal biases/dislikes of certain people & wanting quick clear-ups rather than finding the actual perpetrators.

Guildford Four, Birmingham Six, Lindy Chamberlain, Glynn Simmons who just got released after spending nearly half a century of his life in jail & now has stage four cancer-all because the cops & prosecutors conspired to hide evidence that would have cleared him-bet none of them even if they are all still alive will spend a day in jail.

I agree on your part about those fake death bed confessions. And then their kids or grandkids believe in the lie that their dad was the "never captured" famous killer. Like he leaves behind a legacy. Sure, he was evil but that was long long ago, he is sorry now, and he confessed to his kids on his death bed. There is closure now. However, no closer as many people claim this. lol. Yeah we got a lot of these with DB Cooper, The Zodiac Killer, etc.

However, I disagree with you on one big aspect. (I agree with you that in many unsolved cases the detectives or cops place their focus only on one person rather than looking at multiple suspects.) But, there are plenty of unsolved murders where the cops know who the killer is. They just cant arrest them.


I think the cops mostly fix on people & usually it is wrong-we saw this before DNA became a thing & a lot of people were incarcerated incorrectly based on their tunnel vision, biases & dodgy techniques-getting witnesses to look at pictures where the person they want to convicts picture is considerably larger than the others, identity line-ups where they make 'their guy' stand out from the others in terms of clothing/appearance, not recording interviews where beatings are alleged, keeping people awake all night then interviewing them, feeding the suspects facts they didn't know about the case & keep asking them until they 'get it right', denying them lawyers, writing false confessions out for them etc.

Look how many cops have their unwavering belief as to who the Zodiac Killer is, The Black Dahlia killer, how many disgruntled kids write books about how their father, grandfather or uncle were the killer in those cases-only one could be right & likely none of them are.

If they have a DNA sample & a probable cause then they can arrest the person & compare their DNA, they can even just do the old follow them around & wait for the discarded cigarette butt, coffee cup etc routine. Again more likely it is just another bitter old cop who hated somebody during their career & would love to fit them up for crimes/loves being in the spotlight-but cannot back any of it up with evidence.

How on earth did this case never get solved? The guy killed how many people along the same highway? And he never seemed to be shy about letting his face be shown. He even let an eyewitness leave the store on his own with the promise that he wouldn't call the police (which he did call them). Then doing one of the killings in broad daylight too. I would say these seemed like contract killings more than anything except that it was done along the same highway so I feel they are tied together.

My guess is the killer likely moved, continued his crime and likely got locked up for another crime....it's a harder crime to solve since he was always on the move and rarely left any witnesses. My guess is he's a loner.

The "what he might look like now" composite is somehow more frightening. 312558

That flat expression is so reminiscent of Herb Baumeister, and he didn't live all that far from these crimes. It's not his m.o., but who says it's not possible for a killer to have more than one m.o.?

That flat expression is so reminiscent of Herb Baumeister, and he didn't live all that far from these crimes. It's not his m.o., but who says it's not possible for a killer to have more than one m.o.?

I've mentioned that before. some have said it was not possible or highly unlikely for him to be the IH 70 Killer. IDK that we will ever know the truth when all we really have is a composite. Perhaps there is more evidence that was withheld or I forgot about. I always found it creepy that one of the sketches resembled the older RS.