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JamesG 03-24-2017, 01:26 PM "King of Queens" Reunion! Leah Remini Joins "Kevin Can Wait" for 2-Part Finale
by Michael Ausiello
March 24, 2017
CBS is reviving "King of Queens" by way of "Kevin Can Wait".
Leah Remini will reunite with onetime TV hubby Kevin James when she guest-stars in his eponymous CBS comedy’s two-part season finale, the network announced on Friday.
The plot of the arc finds James’ character agreeing to come out of retirement briefly to reprise his undercover assignment in an ongoing police investigation where he and fellow cop Vanessa Cellucci (Remini) will, once again, pose as husband and wife.
"Kevin Can Wait‘s" two-part Season 1 climax airs Monday, May 1 and Monday, May 8 (both at 8/8c).
http://tvline.com/2017/03/24/king-of-queens-reunion-leah-remini-kevin-can-wait-season-1/
Chocolate Moose 03-24-2017, 02:24 PM Oh, boy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Looking forward to seeing this.
JamesG 04-28-2017, 01:12 PM "Kevin Can Wait's" Erinn Hayes Spills the Beans on the Season Finale's "King of Queens" Reunion
by Liam Mathews
April 27, 2017
"Kevin Can Wait", Kevin James' post-King of Queens return to TV, has used its star's clout to land A-list guest stars in its first season, including Adam Sandler, Ray Romano and Billy Joel.
But none are more notable than the one showing up in the season finale: Leah Remini, who played Kevin James' wife for nine seasons on "The King of Queens".
In "Sting of Queens," the two-part season finale, former cop Kevin Gable (James) agrees to temporarily come out of retirement to finish an undercover assignment with Officer Vanessa Cellucci (Remini) where they pose as husband and wife. The thing is, they were professional rivals, so old disagreements are going to pop back up and jeopardize the mission.
It's a real treat for "King of Queens" fans to see James and Remini together again, but what about Donna (Erinn Hayes), James' wife on Kevin Can Wait? Was she jealous?
Not at all, says Hayes. Vanessa and Donna have a friendly relationship and in fact share similar grievances about their often less-than-satisfactory husband.
How about Hayes herself? Has their any behind-the-scenes tension between the first and second wives? Once again, the answer is nope. Remini was lovely.
"I walked into my dressing room and there was a beautiful bouquet of white roses with a card that said, 'it takes a lot of security for the new wife to welcome the old wife. Thanks for having me. From Leah, First Wives Club' or something like that," says Hayes. "It was very sweet."
Elsewhere in the episode, big things are happening with the rest of the family. Donna is up for a promotion, Kendra (Taylor Spreitler) gets accepted to law school, and Chale (Ryan Cartwright) gets a lucrative new job. All of these things are setting up big changes to come in Season 2. Kendra and Chale's wedding will also be addressed in some way in Season 2, Hayes says.
Beyond that, though, Hayes won't know what else is coming up next season until she goes back to work in August. She has an idea of what she'd like to see more of in Season 2, though.
"It was so refreshing to see Leah come on and get a funny lady on there. I would love to see some more big, brash female guest stars," says Hayes. "Like a Rachel Dratch or an Amy Sedaris. Somebody that can go toe-to-toe with Kevin or that I could have fun scenes with."
She also has her crew of LA comedy friends like Michaela Watkins, as well as her former "Childrens Hospital" co-star Malin Akerman, who films "Billions" on Long Island not far from "Kevin Can Wait's" studio.
"We were trying to get her for something [in Season 1], but it wasn't the right role," says Hayes. "If we can get the timing to work out, she's very high on the list of people we want to come on the show, we just have to write something great for her."
http://www.tvguide.com/news/kevin-can-wait-leah-remini-finale-preview-erinn-hayes/
JamesG 04-30-2017, 08:28 PM x32-8qhEkBU
JamesG 06-02-2017, 10:28 PM Leah Remini Returning to "Kevin Can Wait" as Series Regular in Season 2
by Michael Ausiello
June 2, 2017
Leah Remini is staying put on CBS’ "Kevin Can Wait".
After guest-starring in the comedy’s two-part Season 1 finale last month, Kevin James’ former "King of Queens" leading lady will be rejoining him on the sitcom this fall as a full-fledged series regular, the network announced on Friday.
Remini will reprise her role as tough, wise-cracking police officer Vanessa Cellucci. Season 2 launches Monday, Sept. 25 at 9/8c.
http://tvline.com/2017/06/02/kevin-can-wait-season-2-leah-remini-returns-series-regular/
Adamantium 06-03-2017, 09:07 AM This is kind of weird. I'm not upset by it, though. I think it's great they'll be working together again full-time. But it would be like if Suzanne Pleshette joined the cast for the second season of Newhart, and worked alongside Mary Frann.
Dr. Thong 06-03-2017, 09:21 AM This is kind of weird. I'm not upset by it, though. I think it's great they'll be working together again full-time. But it would be like if Suzanne Pleshette joined the cast for the second season of Newhart, and worked alongside Mary Frann.
I agree.
It's one thing to have her as recurring guest star, but another entirely to have her on as a regular. I wonder how Kevin's TV wife feels about this.
Torgo 06-03-2017, 10:59 AM This is kind of weird. I'm not upset by it, though. I think it's great they'll be working together again full-time. But it would be like if Suzanne Pleshette joined the cast for the second season of Newhart, and worked alongside Mary Frann.
Except in the case of Kevin Can Wait, the new wife is unfunny...
Samme 06-03-2017, 11:44 AM I don't know how this is gonna work out, but at least they're trying. This show needs help. I can't watch it enough to judge the new wife, but she can't be any worse than Mary Frann. She was the worst. Well, Hope Lange was terrible on the second Dick Van Dyke sitcom. It's a tough business and they gotta go with what works. The supporting cast is bad and it was looking like Kevin was doing that to keep the spotlight.
WilliamHBonney 06-03-2017, 02:07 PM I agree.
It's one thing to have her as recurring guest star, but another entirely to have her on as a regular. I wonder how Kevin's TV wife feels about this.
Based on how the ratings dropped from the beginning of s1 to end of s1 probably just happy to still have a gig.:lol:
JamesG 06-03-2017, 03:02 PM Erinn Hayes Exiting "Kevin Can Wait" Amid Season 2 Creative Reset
by Ryan Schwartz
June 3, 2017
"Kevin Can Wait" is consciously uncoupling its central duo. Erinn Hayes, who portrayed Kevin James’ wife Donna in Season 1 of the CBS sitcom, will not be returning for Season 2, TVLine has learned exclusively.
The news comes just one day after the network announced that James’ former "King of Queens" co-star, Leah Remini, will join the show as a full-fledged series regular following a buzzed-about guest stint at the end of Season 1.
It is currently unknown how "Kevin Can Wait" will address Hayes’ absence, but a source confirms to TVLine that the sitcom is heading in a new creative direction in Season 2.
http://tvline.com/2017/06/03/kevin-can-wait-erinn-hayes-leaving-season-2-donna/
Dale Key 06-03-2017, 06:34 PM I gave Kevin Can Wait a generous six episode trial and saw no signs of improvement through the six episodes. It's tempting to try again with Leah though. Hopefully season 2's creative new direction will be watchable.
HuntingtonM15 06-03-2017, 06:43 PM Wow, this is interesting. I might actually have to try watching the show now.
RetroTVNitekatt 06-03-2017, 10:24 PM I give it 13 week...
robyrob 06-04-2017, 12:42 PM They'd probably have kept her on if she had dropped that second n in "Erinn." Just doesn't look right.
this just might drive her to add another one,
Erinnn Hayes
Dr. Thong 06-04-2017, 02:07 PM I gave Kevin Can Wait a generous six episode trial and saw no signs of improvement through the six episodes. It's tempting to try again with Leah though. Hopefully season 2's creative new direction will be watchable.
They should retitle the show The New King Of Queens.
Even better, they should have Remini take over the role being vacated by the actress playing his season 1 wife and act like nothing's changed.
Seriously, this move smacks of desperation and we'll see if they can capture lightning in a bottle twice.
Chocolate Moose 06-04-2017, 03:50 PM I just love Leah Remini and I can't wait to see the show again !!!
peppypacer 06-04-2017, 10:12 PM I don't watch many present day shows but I did catch two or three of this show and it was pretty bad. If they revamp it, the way the 1980s Newhart show did after two seasons and take it in a totally different direction it might have a chance. If the wife is gone I hope the idiot son in law and his daughter are gone too, all three were less than worthless.
caladon 06-04-2017, 10:23 PM It reminds me of the old Doris Day show; they kept changing the format. They started out with her being a widowed mother with two kids living on a ranch and after a few seasons, the show had her being a single woman working as a reporter for a magazine living by herself without any kids.
Edward216 06-05-2017, 10:06 PM This is an outrage! I'm never watching Kevin Can Wait again. I don't care what you all think, Erinn Hayes is funny as Donna and they had no right to do this to her. I can't believe Kevin James went along with this. I'm extremely disappointed with him. I thought he was a lot more loyal to people than that but obviously not. Unbelievable. :mad:
Ed.
It reminds me of the old Doris Day show; they kept changing the format. They started out with her being a widowed mother with two kids living on a ranch and after a few seasons, the show had her being a single woman working as a reporter for a magazine living by herself without any kids.
Just about any show that abruptly does weird plot or premise changes comes at risk of going off of the rails completely. A show in part survives because of familiarity/nostalgia and presumably some semblance of continuity. This kind of if you want a more recent example, reminds me of Tim Allen's last show (http://www.avclub.com/article/ilast-man-standingis-second-season-was-the-weirdes-95857).
I don't know how this is gonna work out, but at least they're trying. This show needs help. I can't watch it enough to judge the new wife, but she can't be any worse than Mary Frann. She was the worst. Well, Hope Lange was terrible on the second Dick Van Dyke sitcom. It's a tough business and they gotta go with what works. The supporting cast is bad and it was looking like Kevin was doing that to keep the spotlight.
Simply killing Donna off (a la what they did on Valerie Harper's sitcom back in the '80s) would be awfully dark. However, having her and Kevin get divorced would just be out of nowhere. And having her taking a nursing assignment out of town or a traveling nursing job is not realistic.
Perhaps it's safe to assume that the show will be retooled as a workplace with Kevin back on the force with partner Vanessa (and wacky undercover cop hi-jinks ensue), and occasional mentions of wife and kids at home.
Angeleen109 06-06-2017, 07:44 AM Saw that one coming from a mile away. Hate to say it, but signing Leah on was probably the only reason at all why CBS agreed to a second season. Truth be told, the 'Kevin Can Wait' show doesn't have much going for it on its own merits & it seems their modus operandi is to revert back to KOQ humor when in doubt or desperation in an attempt to milk any laughs they can from their jokes. Don't get me wrong, KOQ is one of my all time favorite sitcoms, but you can't go home twice & 'Kevin Can Wait' is just a sad, sorry clone trying to replicate the success of it's predecessor. Just as 'The Lucy Show' had all of the same slapstick & madcap schemes & also brought in a former co-star (Vivian Vance), it just never equalled 'I Love Lucy'.
Wonder how the cast of 'Kevin Can Wait' feels about this? Especially, the actress who plays the wife. I bet she feels a little threatened & put out. Not that I feel she brings anything substantial to her part anyway. She seems to be a weak player, imo, but still must sting to probably have whatever significance her part had to be suddenly overshadowed by the former leading lady. How much you want to bet she gets killed off?! I'm calling it now LOL!!
Also, thought Leah was going to do a female version of "What About, Bob?' as a TV series ( can't blame her if she picked"Kevin Can Wait' over it, as it sounds like the concept would be an instant bomb). Guess, the anti-Scientology schtick is wearing thin.........
Angeleen109 06-06-2017, 08:00 AM It's so funny about the initial post I just wrote, as I only just read the news that Leah joined the cast but had NOT seen the other article at all saying the wife is leaving the show!!
WOW! I totally saw this coming from the second I found out Leah was going to guest star but I guess I didn't think they would be that brazen to actually do it so quickly. I thought they'd just maybe slowly integrate Leah in or maybe just have her in a handful of episodes each season & still keep the wife.
Honestly, didn't think the Erinn lady was at all funny but I feel bad for her. That's pretty rotten! I get that showbiz is ruthless that way, but can't help but feel it wasn't underhanded & shady of Kevin & Leah. Something tells me they had planned this in advance. I say this because of an article I read when it was originally announced that Leah would only be guesting on the season finale. In the article, Leah states she got Erinn a bouquet of flowers so Erinn wouldn't feel like her toes were being stepped on by the former leading lady on her turf. That struck me as odd as it's not uncommon for former cast members from a previous series to appear on a cast member's new show & so there would be no reason to feel threatened. I have a feeling Leah gave her those flowers out of guilt as she knew what was up.
Angeleen109 06-06-2017, 08:29 AM In all honesty, even with the addition of Leah & I'm sure also other possible cast changes & an obvious revamp, I still don't think it'll make a difference.
When I saw the trailer for 'Kevin Can Wait' last fall, those brief few minutes were enough to decide it wasn't worth my time watching. Not only because the cast seemed to lack chemistry & the acting & jokes seemed lame & forced, but Kevin was pretty much playing Doug Heffernan all over again, just in different surroundings. The jokes were predictable & the punchlines stale. So, as I said, with the
been-there-done-that impression I got, I tuned out.
I'll admit that when I heard Leah was guesting in the season finale of 'Kevin Can Wait' & being a big fan of KOQ, the prospect of revisiting those characters (or personalities, really) piqued my curiosity & the two part season finale were the first & only episodes of this show I've ever watched.
However, after the first few minutes of seeing them back together, it got tired fast. It seemed like the magic had worn off & there wasn't any freshness to it. It seemed more forced than natural & funny. So for that reason, I don't see this lasting for season 3 & on. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think I am.
HuntingtonM15 06-06-2017, 08:40 AM Saw that one coming from a mile away. Hate to say it, but signing Leah on was probably the only reason at all why CBS agreed to a second season. Truth be told, the 'Kevin Can Wait' show doesn't have much going for it on its own merits & it seems their modus operandi is to revert back to KOQ humor when in doubt or desperation in an attempt to milk any laughs they can from their jokes. Don't get me wrong, KOQ is one of my all time favorite sitcoms, but you can't go home twice & 'Kevin Can Wait' is just a sad, sorry clone trying to replicate the success of it's predecessor. Just as 'The Lucy Show' had all of the same slapstick & madcap schemes & also brought in a former co-star (Vivian Vance), it just never equalled 'I Love Lucy'.
Wonder how the cast of 'Kevin Can Wait' feels about this? Especially, the actress who plays the wife. I bet she feels a little threatened & put out. Not that I feel she brings anything substantial to her part anyway. She seems to be a weak player, imo, but still must sting to probably have whatever significance her part had to be suddenly overshadowed by the former leading lady. How much you want to bet she gets killed off?! I'm calling it now LOL!!
Also, thought Leah was going to do a female version of "What About, Bob?' as a TV series ( can't blame her if she picked"Kevin Can Wait' over it, as it sounds like the concept would be an instant bomb). Guess, the anti-Scientology schtick is wearing thin.........
While I agree that it is a pretty desperate move, I do disagree about The Lucy Show. No, it wasn't I Love Lucy, and I'm glad it wasn't. It was a great show on its own. I don't necessarily think that the same is going to happen in this situation, but we'll see where it goes.
Leah's pilot for NBC did not get picked up. I agree that it sounded incredibly awful.
energy 06-06-2017, 12:12 PM Even thought the show had good ratings, it wasn't funny. So hoping that a sitcom that's not funny was going to continue to garner good ratings is a non starter. The show definitely needed a major boost. Enter Leah Rimini.
The chemistry between her and Kevin James is golden. Rimini's guest appearance on the final two episode's showed that chemistry has not diminished.
On the flip side James and the wife on the show lacked that strong chemistry. So the show made a bold move. These things are never easy and are a gamble.
Possibly another reason they dismissed the wife is to open up the option for Rimini and James rekindling their on screen romance. If they just wanted to add Rimini as a former coworker, that wouldn't have necessarily required the elimination of the wife. But if romance is in the picture, the wife becomes a problem.
Who knows, maybe the show will do a total reboot to something that barely resembles the first season. One thing is for sure, many will be tuning in to see what comes next.
LeeBlue 06-07-2017, 10:16 AM I haven't watched this show very often -- something seemed lacking.
Now that Leah Remini is onboard, I'll tune in for season two.
Should be interesting how they handle the wife leaving.
liane60 06-07-2017, 12:10 PM But the actress that now plays Kevin's wife is off the show.
Angeleen109 06-10-2017, 05:23 AM It would be funny if the season premiere of 'Kevin Can Wait' is like the series finale of 'Newhart', where Doug Heffernan is asleep dreaming the whole first season of 'Kevin Can Wait' when an angry Carrie Heffernan suddenly wakes him up.
TVJoy 06-10-2017, 06:28 PM It would be funny if the season premiere of 'Kevin Can Wait' is like the series finale of 'Newhart', where Doug Heffernan is asleep dreaming the whole first season of 'Kevin Can Wait' when an angry Carrie Heffernan suddenly wakes him up.
That move may save this show, Angeleen109!
I tuned in to Kevin Can Wait because I love Kevin. I'm a big KOQ fan & was hopeful. It's no KOQ, but it's not awful either. There's hardly anything worth watching as far as sitcoms go these days. It's slim pickings out there! This show may survive a couple seasons if enough people feel the way I do. At least it's not horrible like Superior Donuts & Superstore.
As for Leah Remini, I was disappointed with the season finale and with her role. I may be in the minority, but I'm not looking forward to her joining the cast. A cast that's already overcrowded. I'll watch this fall and be as hopeful as I was last year. Good luck to them!
Dr. Thong 06-11-2017, 05:21 PM It would be funny if the season premiere of 'Kevin Can Wait' is like the series finale of 'Newhart', where Doug Heffernan is asleep dreaming the whole first season of 'Kevin Can Wait' when an angry Carrie Heffernan suddenly wakes him up.
It was funny when Newhart did it, because it was unexpected and a total shock.
If this show does it, it will come off as weak, IMO.
Anna Karenina 06-12-2017, 04:14 PM It was funny when Newhart did it, because it was unexpected and a total shock.
If this show does it, it will come off as weak, IMO.
Maybe Kevin can apologize to the audience for the entire last season like Jackie Gleason did for his ill fated game show.
At any rate, I feel bad for the actress and I hope she got a big severance package to be dumped like this. She looked like his daughter not his wife and they gave her nothing to work with other than smiling patiently like a Stepford Wife at his childish antics.
Just reboot the old show. KCW was just a bomb from day one.
who8mycookie 06-18-2017, 04:40 AM I think they should just ignore the first season and start fresh. There was only one season, a major reboot of the show is forgivable considering it was lacking a lot of chemistry and basically had new faces in the roles of old characters.
They could do a remake of KofQ with Doug and Carrie. They could explain the first season. Maybe start it off right before the finale of KofQ (so there are no children). Arthur could be holding a manuscript in his hand and he briefly tells Doug as he closes the manuscript I call it "Kevin Can Wait." Doug could then respond "It won't work." Then a revamped version of the KofQ theme plays and the show goes right back to KofQ and Kevin Can Wait is nothing but a figment of Arthurs imagination.
If Arthur could not do it, then Spence could do it.
Dr. Thong 06-18-2017, 08:36 AM I think they should just ignore the first season and start fresh. There was only one season, a major reboot of the show is forgivable considering it was lacking a lot of chemistry and basically had new faces in the roles of old characters.
They could do a remake of KofQ with Doug and Carrie. They could explain the first season. Maybe start it off right before the finale of KofQ (so there are no children). Arthur could be holding a manuscript in his hand and he briefly tells Doug as he closes the manuscript I call it "Kevin Can Wait." Doug could then respond "It won't work." Then a revamped version of the KofQ theme plays and the show goes right back to KofQ and Kevin Can Wait is nothing but a figment of Arthurs imagination.
If Arthur could not do it, then Spence could do it.
The problem with that scenario is if KOQ is owned by another production company, they can't use those characters without getting sued. I think they might go the reboot route. Or they'll have it take place after the lead characters got a divorce.
RetroTVNitekatt 06-18-2017, 08:29 PM Maybe Kevin can apologize to the audience for the entire last season like Jackie Gleason did for his ill fated game show.
I would PAY to see that happen!
Anna Karenina 06-23-2017, 12:21 AM Based on how the ratings dropped from the beginning of s1 to end of s1 probably just happy to still have a gig.:lol:
Now she doesn't even have that. :(
Anna Karenina 06-23-2017, 12:21 AM I would PAY to see that happen! :wave: :)
When I first heard she was going to guest star, I said, "They'll get rid of the wife and have her join as a regular"- and boom, no shock when I saw it was happening. :lol:
I only tuned in to the last two episodes of the season (on demand), and will tune in regularly. I'm one of those came-late-to-KOQ (after it had ended its run).
JamesG 08-01-2017, 04:21 PM "Kevin Can Wait" is Killing Off Erinn Hayes in Season 2
by Kaitlin Thomas
Aug 1, 2017
We finally know how "Kevin Can Wait" will be writing out departing star Erinn Hayes.
Thom Sherman, senior executive vice president of programming at CBS Entertainment, revealed to reporters during the Television Critics Association summer press tour Tuesday that Hayes' character will be killed off at the beginning of next season.
"Her character will pass away and we will be moving forward in time, catching up at a later date," he said.
When asked if "Kevin Can Wait" is morphing into another version of the landmark CBS comedy, Sherman said, "No, I don't think so. I think the show speaks for itself and stands for itself."
However, he did note that the chemistry between James and Remini "was amazing in the stunt episodes" that aired at the end of "Kevin Can Wait's" freshman season and the network "decided to continue that chemistry."
Season 2 premieres Monday, Oct. 2 at 9/8c on CBS.
http://www.tvguide.com/news/kevin-can-wait-erinn-hayes-killed-off/
Chocolate Moose 08-01-2017, 04:39 PM Yes, I read that. How is that going to be funny?
Dr. Thong 08-01-2017, 04:59 PM Yes, I read that. How is that going to be funny?
I don't think they're going to play this for laughs. It will show Kevin many months after her death, probably trying to deal with everyday life.
Many sitcoms have had major characters die and have dealt with it in a dramatic manner.
KatieAnn 08-01-2017, 06:08 PM I liked Erinn and I thought Leah Remini's appearances on the show were painful, very hard to watch. They were both trying to hard.
I think that it's Kevin's friends who were the weak link in season 1, they just were not funny. It's too bad they are going down this road but I will tune in and see if they can make it work.
I wish Erinn well and hope she has great success elsewhere.
Anna Karenina 08-01-2017, 06:50 PM I liked Erinn and I thought Leah Remini's appearances on the show were painful, very hard to watch. They were both trying to hard.
I think that it's Kevin's friends who were the weak link in season 1, they just were not funny. It's too bad they are going down this road but I will tune in and see if they can make it work.
I wish Erinn well and hope she has great success elsewhere.
Me too, KatieAnn.
How they are treating this actress is so cruel.
They could have had her be his ex wife who made occasional appearances here and there, they didn't have to kill her off, this is just bull****.
This is coming from a devoted King of Queens fan who would have welcomed their reunion somewhere down the line but definitely not this way.
I give this move a :( and a :rolleyes:
Torgo 08-01-2017, 07:10 PM I wasn't a big fan of Donna, BUT how they treated the actress who played her is awful. Definitely won't be tuning in for season 2.
I hope Erinn makes more appearances on TBS' Wrecked, she was actually very funny on that playing crazy.
Anna Karenina 08-01-2017, 07:24 PM I wasn't a big fan of Donna, BUT how they treated the actress who played her is awful. Definitely won't be tuning in for season 2.
I hope Erinn makes more appearances on TBS' Wrecked, she was actually very funny on that playing crazy.
They should have given her a chance to shine like that on KCW. I blame the writers and Fatty McButterpants for dropping the ball with her like that.
*******s. :(
Me too, KatieAnn.
How they are treating this actress is so cruel.
They could have had her be his ex wife who made occasional appearances here and there, they didn't have to kill her off, this is just bull****.
This is coming from a devoted King of Queens fan who would have welcomed their reunion somewhere down the line but definitely not this way.
I give this move a :( and a :rolleyes:
Kevin James isn't exactly (http://www.nickiswift.com/69667/shady-side-kevin-james/) a great person (https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/6qynm8/erinn_hayes_character_to_be_killed_off_kevin_can/dl1915p/) either.
Anna Karenina 08-01-2017, 08:03 PM Kevin James isn't exactly (http://www.nickiswift.com/69667/shady-side-kevin-james/) a great person (https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/6qynm8/erinn_hayes_character_to_be_killed_off_kevin_can/dl1915p/) either.
Yes, I have read those articles before. I take them with a grain of salt but this latest move on his part was just brutal as Doug Heffernan used to say.
Makes me sad to read that he could be so heartless. I really, really liked him before this. Leah too. Show business can be cruel.
She definitely was not the reason the show stunk. It was just mediocre at best. Also, Kevin James basically walked through the part like he was annoyed by being there.
I just hope she got a BIG settlement out of this.
Torgo 08-01-2017, 08:03 PM Kevin James isn't exactly (http://www.nickiswift.com/69667/shady-side-kevin-james/) a great person (https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/6qynm8/erinn_hayes_character_to_be_killed_off_kevin_can/dl1915p/) either.
You should proof read what you link to. The first link:
Oddly, neither brother goes by their real last name of Knipfing, and Valentine seems to hide that he's related to James even though he's in almost every single one of his movies and television shows. Just take a look at Valentine's IMDb*page. It's nearly identical to James'. But just like James didn't invent sexism, he also didn't invent nepotism, which isn't uncommon in Hollywood.
They've explained numerous times why they went by different names, and they've never hid the fact they're related. This article is ridiculous. I'm not saying Kevin is perfect, BUT linking to articles making silly false statements to make someone look worse than they are is ludicrous.
Anna Karenina 08-01-2017, 08:18 PM I suppose Kevin James will try to get some Emmy baiting Archie Bunkeresque crying over Edith scenes with this stunt.
Why didn't he just ask Leah Remini to play his wife in the first place? :confused:
Angeleen109 08-01-2017, 10:36 PM I suppose Kevin James will try to get some Emmy baiting Archie Bunkeresque crying over Edith scenes with this stunt.
Why didn't he just ask Leah Remini to play his wife in the first place? :confused:
God, I hope not. He doesn't have the acting chops that Carroll O'Connor had, who was classically trained at his craft. Kevin James is a one trick pony, who can only perform material that fits his particular brand of comedy & who's range is limited to playing 'himself'. He can't handle anything heavy & if they go the route that's similar to 'Archie Bunker's Place', it will be laughable & not in a good way.
Anna Karenina 08-01-2017, 10:46 PM God, I hope not. He doesn't have the acting chops that Carroll O'Connor had, who was classically trained at his craft. Kevin James is a one trick pony, who can only perform material that fits his particular brand of comedy & who's range is limited to playing 'himself'. He can't handle anything heavy & if they go the route that's similar to 'Archie Bunker's Place', it will be laughable & not in a good way.
Actually he did pull off some very dramatic acting at times especially when he got mad at Arthur but he is no Carroll O'Connor to be sure. That actor was one in a million.
That man was a master at his craft. And the critical difference between that situation and this one is that Jean Stapleton chose to leave. Erinn didn't.
This situation just stinks on ice.
Angeleen109 08-01-2017, 11:01 PM I liked Erinn and I thought Leah Remini's appearances on the show were painful, very hard to watch. They were both trying to hard.
I think that it's Kevin's friends who were the weak link in season 1, they just were not funny. It's too bad they are going down this road but I will tune in and see if they can make it work.
I wish Erinn well and hope she has great success elsewhere.
EXACTLY! This right here ^^.
Like any good KOQ fans, I tuned into the series finale of KCW despite never watching any other episode of the show (I found the preseason trailer for it lackluster & uninspired) & like you the chemistry this go-round seemed forced. Kevin James appear to phone it in during every scene, just half heartedly relying on his old schtick with out putting the effort in . He looks literally bored at times & as if he's just going through the motions while Leah on the other hand came off trying too hard, like there was some type of desperation behind her performance, almost like she was hoping in her mind, 'Please let something come of this!'.
All her recent "work" - the anti-Scientology book & programs/interviews & the pathetic TLC reality show just seem like obvious attempts at a cash grab. However, given that it appears she supports a lot of hanger-ons (unemployed husband who has multiple kids from past relationships, plus their daughter together & then the jmother, sisters etc) I can't blame her & the fact that she has a taste for expensive clothes/brands/fashions etc, I'm sure the money's running out quick, especially when she's trying to keep up with A-list friends like J-Lo.
To me, she really reeked of desperation on 'The Exes', so much so that her character caused me to stop watching the show & i never tuned back in after, I was a regular viewer up to the addition of her character.
Anyway, i have a feeling this is going to blow up in their face.
Adamantium 08-02-2017, 01:27 AM I suppose Kevin James will try to get some Emmy baiting Archie Bunkeresque crying over Edith scenes with this stunt.
I doubt it. Since the new season will take place nine months later, she'll probably only be referenced to once and then the show will move on.
robyrob 08-02-2017, 07:44 AM in the series finale they should reveal that Leah Remini's character actually killed Erinn Hayes' character
Dr. Thong 08-02-2017, 04:57 PM in the series finale they should reveal that Leah Remini's character actually killed Erinn Hayes' character
Because nothing says funny like a character killing another on a sitcom.
;)
Anna Karenina 08-02-2017, 09:28 PM Nobody seems to be on board with this move.
http://www.avclub.com/article/erinn-hayes-kevin-can-wait-character-actually-bein-258870
Chocolate Moose 08-03-2017, 09:55 AM in the series finale they should reveal that Leah Remini's character actually killed Erinn Hayes' character
OH BOY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
loaferman 08-03-2017, 01:17 PM Kevin James isn't exactly (http://www.nickiswift.com/69667/shady-side-kevin-james/) a great person (https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/6qynm8/erinn_hayes_character_to_be_killed_off_kevin_can/dl1915p/) either.
There's too much smoke for there not to be some fire with these stories. Kevin James is one of the luckiest people on earth, if it were me judging his "talent" he really would be a mall cop.
The crazy thing is that even without Leah Remini into the equation, Kevin James was ostensibly doing the same show as he did on TKOQ anyway: Same loud obnoxious loud mouth main character, same friends (a black man and his wife, a ladies man, his brother/cousin).
Anna Karenina 08-03-2017, 10:33 PM The crazy thing is that even without Leah Remini into the equation, Kevin James was ostensibly doing the same show as he did on TKOQ anyway: Same loud obnoxious loud mouth main character, same friends, (a black man and his wife, a ladies man, his brother/cousin).
Yeah, but the difference is the first one was hilarious.
He just phoned in his performance in this one.
The characters were just props for him, no real personalities. Just filler.
JamesG 08-13-2017, 02:50 PM Leah Remini Shares Photo from "Amazing First Week" on "Kevin Can Wait" Set
by Derek Lawrence
August 12, 2017
Leah Remini couldn’t wait to share a photo from her “amazing” first week as a series regular on the revamped "Kevin Can Wait".
After guest-starring in two episodes of the CBS sitcom’s first season, it was announced in June that the actress would be reuniting full-time with her "King of Queens" husband Kevin James.
Alongside a photo with James, Remini wrote on Instagram, “It’s been an amazing first week on @kevincanwaitcbs, so blessed that I had my family with me. Thank you to all who came out tonight, cast, crew, writers, thank you for the love!”
"Kevin Can Wait" returns to CBS on Sept. 25.
http://ew.com/tv/2017/08/12/kevin-can-wait-leah-remini-kevin-james-first-week/
Anna Karenina 08-13-2017, 03:03 PM It looks like Kevin has lost some weight over the summer, good for him.
That being said, I am still mad at both of them, not that they care. :lol:
More mad at him than her of course.
Torgo 08-13-2017, 03:17 PM Kevin Can('t) Wait (To Kill Off His Wife)
Anna Karenina 08-13-2017, 03:29 PM Kevin is an ingrate.
Kevin should have hired Leah right out of the gate.
I Now Pronounce you Kevin and Vanessa to hell with the dead wife. :(
JamesG 08-22-2017, 06:00 PM "Kevin Can Wait" EP: We Killed Off Donna "Out of Respect" for Erinn Hayes
by Ryan Schwartz
August 22, 2017
"Kevin Can Wait‘s" controversial decision to kill off its leading lady was more than just creatively driven. It was also made out of respect for Donna’s portrayer Erinn Hayes, according to exec producer Rob Long.
“The goal was to give Kevin’s character a real drive and a real predicament involving how a family comes back together after tragedy,” Long says. “Also, out of respect for the character of Donna — and certainly the way that Erinn Hayes portrayed her — it seemed like the only right and fair way to treat her character.”
Asked whether they ever considered reshaping the series in Season 2 to focus solely on Kevin’s professional life (and thus letting Donna live, albeit off camera), Long says that simply was not in the cards.
The “nucleus of the idea,” he shares, was “Kevin being a single father… We were really attracted to watching Kevin learn how to do all of the stuff that comes with being a single parent to three kids — four if you count Kendra’s fiancé Chale.”
http://tvline.com/2017/08/22/kevin-can-wait-donna-death-explained-erinn-hayes-season-2/
"Kevin Can Wait" EP: We Killed Off Donna "Out of Respect" for Erinn Hayes
by Ryan Schwartz
August 22, 2017
"Kevin Can Wait‘s" controversial decision to kill off its leading lady was more than just creatively driven. It was also made out of respect for Donna’s portrayer Erinn Hayes, according to exec producer Rob Long.
“The goal was to give Kevin’s character a real drive and a real predicament involving how a family comes back together after tragedy,” Long says. “Also, out of respect for the character of Donna — and certainly the way that Erinn Hayes portrayed her — it seemed like the only right and fair way to treat her character.”
Asked whether they ever considered reshaping the series in Season 2 to focus solely on Kevin’s professional life (and thus letting Donna live, albeit off camera), Long says that simply was not in the cards.
The “nucleus of the idea,” he shares, was “Kevin being a single father… We were really attracted to watching Kevin learn how to do all of the stuff that comes with being a single parent to three kids — four if you count Kendra’s fiancé Chale.”
http://tvline.com/2017/08/22/kevin-can-wait-donna-death-explained-erinn-hayes-season-2/
http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2015/01/16/surejan.w1200.h630.jpg :rolleyes:
Torgo 08-22-2017, 08:01 PM http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2015/01/16/surejan.w1200.h630.jpg :rolleyes:
Couldn't have said it better.
Anna Karenina 08-22-2017, 08:06 PM Talk about a massive rationalization.
They deprive this actress of her livelihood, replace her with the old wife by killing her off.
But oh, this is a way of showing her "respect".
Sure, Jan. :rolleyes:
Maybe he could dance on her grave while he is at it to honor her memory even more.
Anna Karenina 08-22-2017, 08:07 PM Couldn't have said it better.
Me either, Matt.
:wave:
Torgo 08-22-2017, 08:14 PM Talk about a massive rationalization.
They deprive this actress of her livelihood, replace her with the old wife by killing her off.
But oh, this is a way of showing her "respect".
Sure, Jan. :rolleyes:
Maybe he could dance on her grave while he is at it to honor her memory even more.
They're trying to make it sound like they planned this from the beginning, which we know is ludicrous, otherwise Erinn Hayes would have known and wouldn't have been planning on moving her family.
Torgo 08-22-2017, 08:14 PM Me either, Matt.
:wave:
:wave:
Anna Karenina 08-22-2017, 08:26 PM They're trying to make it sound like they planned this from the beginning, which we know is ludicrous, otherwise Erinn Hayes would have known and wouldn't have been planning on moving her family.
They really think we are all going to sympathize with the grieving father now.
How gullible do they think the audience is?
Meanwhile, how are they going to explain away her death? She was a relatively young, slim woman in the prime of her life. :confused:
Given the situation HE should have been the one with the untimely demise.
Torgo 08-22-2017, 10:54 PM They really think we are all going to sympathize with the grieving father now.
How gullible do they think the audience is?
Meanwhile, how are they going to explain away her death? She was a relatively young, slim woman in the prime of her life. :confused:
Given the situation HE should have been the one with the untimely demise.
I don't think the show will last a full season. Or if it does, it won't come back for a third.
Could be wrong though.
Anna Karenina 08-22-2017, 11:02 PM I don't think the show will last a full season. Or if it does, it won't come back for a third.
Could be wrong though.
As much as we love the original show, that would be good karma for them. :wave:
Oh, and somehow Chale survives this whole thing. :(
Talk about a massive rationalization.
They deprive this actress of her livelihood, replace her with the old wife by killing her off.
But oh, this is a way of showing her "respect".
Sure, Jan. :rolleyes:
Maybe he could dance on her grave while he is at it to honor her memory even more.
If you truly respected the actress wouldn't you keep her and give the character more development!? :crazy: :confused:
JamesG 08-23-2017, 09:44 PM We Probably Won't Find Out how Donna Died on "Kevin Can Wait"
by Tim Surrette
Aug. 23, 2017
The single most interesting off-season decision for a television show comes from an unexpected source: CBS' Kevin James hubby-and-wife comedy "Kevin Can Wait". In an attempt to overhaul the structure of the series, producers decided to kill off the wife, Donna (Erinn Hayes), in between seasons.
It's a shocking development for any show, let alone a sitcom. "Kevin Can Wait" executive producer Rob Long said that the decision to kill off Donna was made "out of respect" to the character and Hayes, and is intended to send the series in a new direction, one in which we see Kevin learn how to raise his family on his own following tragedy.
But will we learn how she died? Surprisingly, probably not.
"It's not a big secret, it's just not something we've dealt with yet," executive producer Rock Reuben told TVGuide. "We're coming up about a year later, the family is pulling itself back together. If it becomes necessary for a story, we'll do it, but otherwise we're going to kind of -- the show is about moving forward."
Producers haven't even decided on a definitive reason for the death, either.
"We have a bunch of different ideas, but until it's something that's story related or story germane, I don't think we'll say how it happened," Long added.
As for why the show decided to kill off Donna, rather than write in a divorce or something not as final, Long once again stressed the "creative reset" of the show.
"I think it's more interesting to see a guy dust himself off and march back into the world, and you root for him more," Long said. "It's a little cleaner. It's a little more dramatic."
http://www.tvguide.com/news/kevin-can-wait-how-donna-died/
Anna Karenina 08-23-2017, 09:49 PM If you truly respected the actress wouldn't you keep her and give the character more development!? :crazy: :confused:
Amen. Yes!
I would beef up her role. Give her some funny stuff to do, make it less about Kevin and his arrested adolescence all the time.
Bring on Leah in doses but there is no reason to throw the wife out with the bathwater.
This is just a drastic move that will really alienate the audience. :(
Anna Karenina 08-23-2017, 09:58 PM We Probably Won't Find Out how Donna Died on "Kevin Can Wait"
by Tim Surrette
Aug. 23, 2017
The single most interesting off-season decision for a television show comes from an unexpected source: CBS' Kevin James hubby-and-wife comedy "Kevin Can Wait". In an attempt to overhaul the structure of the series, producers decided to kill off the wife, Donna (Erinn Hayes), in between seasons.
It's a shocking development for any show, let alone a sitcom. "Kevin Can Wait" executive producer Rob Long said that the decision to kill off Donna was made "out of respect" to the character and Hayes, and is intended to send the series in a new direction, one in which we see Kevin learn how to raise his family on his own following tragedy.
But will we learn how she died? Surprisingly, probably not.
"It's not a big secret, it's just not something we've dealt with yet," executive producer Rock Reuben told TVGuide. "We're coming up about a year later, the family is pulling itself back together. If it becomes necessary for a story, we'll do it, but otherwise we're going to kind of -- the show is about moving forward."
Producers haven't even decided on a definitive reason for the death, either.
"We have a bunch of different ideas, but until it's something that's story related or story germane, I don't think we'll say how it happened," Long added.
As for why the show decided to kill off Donna, rather than write in a divorce or something not as final, Long once again stressed the "creative reset" of the show.
"I think it's more interesting to see a guy dust himself off and march back into the world, and you root for him more," Long said. "It's a little cleaner. It's a little more dramatic."
http://www.tvguide.com/news/kevin-can-wait-how-donna-died/
Will Kevin have this kind of a moment? ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS6OlZFZOkw
Torgo 08-23-2017, 11:04 PM Will Kevin have this kind of a moment? ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS6OlZFZOkw
Only if he wears the dress.
Torgo 08-23-2017, 11:07 PM Maybe Erinn's role in the new Amazon series The Dangerous Book for Boys will be much meatier than Kevin's.
Anna Karenina 08-23-2017, 11:38 PM Maybe Erinn's role in the new Amazon series The Dangerous Book for Boys will be much meatier than Kevin's.
Wouldn't it be ironic if her show became a hit and she got an Emmy and they got canceled?
Anna Karenina 08-23-2017, 11:40 PM Only if he wears the dress.
They should save that for sweeps month. :lol:
Chocolate Moose 08-24-2017, 11:38 AM doesn't MAKE SENSE. this is not going to be funny.
robyrob 08-24-2017, 01:53 PM I think "Kevin" (if that is even his REAL fake name) killed his wife and is trying to cover it up - imagine the HILARIOUS hijinks he will get into as he clumsily tries to hide the body, cover up evidence, and fool his kids!
Anna Karenina 08-24-2017, 08:51 PM I think "Kevin" (if that is even his REAL fake name) killed his wife and is trying to cover it up - imagine the HILARIOUS hijinks he will get into as he clumsily tries to hide the body, cover up evidence, and fool his kids!
Funny comment, robyrob. :lol:
I am watching this show right now and they are joking about her dying and him moving on to wife number two.
:eek:
Torgo 08-24-2017, 08:58 PM Funny comment, robyrob. :lol:
I am watching this show right now and they are joking about her dying and him moving on to wife number two.
:eek:
Didn't Doug and Carrie also have a similar conversation?
Anna Karenina 08-24-2017, 09:07 PM Didn't Doug and Carrie also have a similar conversation?
Yes, when she was trying to control his fantasies. :wave: :D
Torgo 08-24-2017, 09:09 PM Yes, when she was trying to control his fantasies. :wave: :D
So, Donna Gable was the second wife of Doug Heffernan, and Carrie Heffernan will be the second wife of Kevin Gable!
Anna Karenina 08-24-2017, 09:13 PM So, Donna Gable was the second wife of Doug Heffernan, and Carrie Heffernan will be the second wife of Kevin Gable!
Life is really a circle, isn't it? :wave:
Torgo 08-24-2017, 10:42 PM Life is really a circle, isn't it? :wave:
Indeed.:wave:
https://www.yahoo.com/tv/kevin-can-wait-kevin-james-says-changes-jolt-needed-191644140.html
Kevin Can Wait is headed in a new direction for Season 2, but star Kevin James says the change wasn’t driven by the chemistry between him and his former King of Queens co-star Leah Remini, who guest starred on the show last season. Sure, after the well-received two-parter, CBS announced that Remini was joining the show as a series regular, but her presence will just be one of many new “drives” for Kevin Can Wait, says James. The actor — who plays retired cop Kevin Gable — adds that Remini definitely wasn’t a driving factor when it came to the decision to kill off his character’s wife (played by Erinn Hayes).
“The original drive in this show was…what I wanted to do was be a single father,” James tells Yahoo TV. “I thought that would be a little bit of a unique thing. I still hadn’t played a father at all [on TV] so it was nice. The first season was great, but it felt like we slipped into something where the weight of the show was on ‘How am I going to deal with retirement?’ And it just wasn’t enough. It didn’t feel like enough of a drive for the show.”
The decision to kill off the family matriarch, Donna Gable, wasn’t an easy one, but James says the new direction of the show opens up a whole new world of story ideas and paves the way for “heavier” relationships between Kevin and his three kids.
King of Queens co-star Leah Remini helped reign in Kevin James on the season finale of Kevin Can Wait. Remini played Kevin's old police partner, Vanessa Cellucci. The old King of Queens duo revived their old rapport, basically playing Doug and Carrie as cops. Cellucci and Kevin were working undercover and were hot on the trail of a dubious art dealer when they discovered that the art he was hocking wasn't forgeries. Thinking that the case was cold, Kevin was suddenly struck with an uncharacteristic touch of genius. He took Cellucci to the dealer's warehouse and looked for narcotics amongst the shipments and it turned out that yes, the art dealer was also a drug dealer. Though the art dealer caught them, the two managed to escape. Fortunately for them, it turned out the dubious art dealer's girlfriend was FBI so Kevin and Cellucci were able to escape and close the case.
“There’s more drive to how I deal with my children now,” the actor says of his character’s life as a widower. “And it’s not just about ‘Oh geez, I wonder if I’m gonna be able to drink beer and eat pizza with my friends today.’ We wanted to make it a little deeper that way, and for the duration of the show give it a stronger viewpoint and to have more of that emotional weight onto the show. It’s about a single father raising a family, which is a good drive for us.”
With his wife now gone, Kevin Gable also has to make a living. so his retirement is officially revoked. For Season 2, he’ll join forces with Remini’s character, Vanessa Cellucci, at her security firm. “I’m going back into the workforce as well, and that also is a drive,” James says of the upcoming storylines. “There’s a need to take care of my family now more than ever, and that was the jolt we needed, I think, in this series.”
Of course, Doug and Carrie Heffernan shippers are hoping Kevin can’t wait to get romantic with his former King of Queens wife. But don’t hold your breath for that, because James isn’t sure his character will dive back into the dating world so soon after his wife’s death — let alone with his new boss.
“I don’t know yet,” James says of Kevin Gable’s romantic future. “Literally we’re taking this show as it’s happening, as we’re going on. It’s just kind of life happening. We didn’t really say he’ll definitely get into the dating world, he’s gonna end up with Leah Remini or this or that. We have not, honestly, answered any of that. We have so many stories now to write based on this new viewpoint that we’re just taking it like that, and saying, ‘Which way is the show gonna go?’ We’ll just find out as we go.”
James says he stayed in touch with Remini in the decade since King of Queens wrapped and that they have remained good friends. But with all due respect to Hayes’ dearly departed Donna, the actor doesn’t deny his on-camera chemistry with his longtime KOQ co-star.
“To get back and act with her again was just fantastic,” says James. “It’s comfort, because you know they’ve got you, you got them and you kind of go back and forth and you give off each other. And it’s really been amazing and the audience reaction to Leah being here…She got a standing ovation her first night walking out. She literally broke into tears, she was crying. It was really nice, it was really great to see the reception she got. I was a little upset because I think it was bigger than my reaction!”
“We’re incredibly excited about this and we hope people love the show, and we have so much fun doing it,” James adds of the retooled Kevin Can Wait. “We’re a few episodes in now and I gotta say the response with the live audience has been amazing, so hopefully it translates.”
BluesFanUK 09-16-2017, 10:49 AM In the UK we've still got two episodes to go of season 1, I only saw this because it popped up on another news site when reading up about the (utterly pathetic) decision to cancel Dark Matter.
At first I thought i'd just spoilt the last two episodes, which was weird given it's a comedy, then I read this has happened all off screen and Leah Remini was essentially replacing Erinn Hayes as lead female in the show. That immediately turned me off, King of Queens had its day, no need to transform this into KoQ 2.0.
In any case out of sheer curiosity I watched the remainder of the season online and quite frankly i'm not impressed in the slightest. Plastic face Leah Remini is not funny, and by the looks of it season 2 will just be her and Kevin James bickering non-stop for 24 episodes, two loud, obnoxious characters, with the actors trying to reinvent part of their past.
I had no issues with Donna, if anything I spent most the time wondering how she constantly put up with a slob who never listened to her, but I let that slide as I thought they had decent chemistry, I got more laughs out of those two than I did of the King of Queens reunion in ep23 and 24.
I've since deleted it from my planner, if it's not broke don't fix it, and clearly this wasn't broke as it got a second season. Reading stuff from the producers on how it's out of respect to Erinn Hayes to kill the character off genuinely angered me too.
Anna Karenina 09-25-2017, 04:50 PM Oy, tonight is the night they switch wives back. :eek:
Anna Karenina 09-25-2017, 04:51 PM In the UK we've still got two episodes to go of season 1, I only saw this because it popped up on another news site when reading up about the (utterly pathetic) decision to cancel Dark Matter.
At first I thought i'd just spoilt the last two episodes, which was weird given it's a comedy, then I read this has happened all off screen and Leah Remini was essentially replacing Erinn Hayes as lead female in the show. That immediately turned me off, King of Queens had its day, no need to transform this into KoQ 2.0.
In any case out of sheer curiosity I watched the remainder of the season online and quite frankly i'm not impressed in the slightest. Plastic face Leah Remini is not funny, and by the looks of it season 2 will just be her and Kevin James bickering non-stop for 24 episodes, two loud, obnoxious characters, with the actors trying to reinvent part of their past.
I had no issues with Donna, if anything I spent most the time wondering how she constantly put up with a slob who never listened to her, but I let that slide as I thought they had decent chemistry, I got more laughs out of those two than I did of the King of Queens reunion in ep23 and 24.
I've since deleted it from my planner, if it's not broke don't fix it, and clearly this wasn't broke as it got a second season. Reading stuff from the producers on how it's out of respect to Erinn Hayes to kill the character off genuinely angered me too.
Welcome to the boards! :wave:
Anna Karenina 09-25-2017, 07:39 PM Predictions?
Will Kevin Gable have an Archie Bunker like moment with him crying over Donna's slipper? ;)
One possible theory: The producers and/or CBS told Kevin James that the show would get cancelled, unless he made some changes.
I think the only time they were up in ratings was when Leah Remini guest starred. So maybe CBS gave Kevin an ultimatum. Cut the wife and bring Leah in, or lose the show.
Anna Karenina 09-25-2017, 07:57 PM One possible theory: The producers and/or CBS told Kevin James that the show would get cancelled, unless he made some changes.
I think the only time they were up in ratings was when Leah Remini guest starred. So maybe CBS gave Kevin an ultimatum. Cut the wife and bring Leah in, or lose the show.
Sounds like a possibility. Strange though given the fact that Les Moonves's wife Julie Chen had so much public friction with Leah Remini that she would be welcomed back like that.
In any case killing off Erinn's character was way too harsh an option in my opinion.
It is like throwing out the wife with the bathwater. :(
RetroGuy2000 09-25-2017, 09:14 PM It is like throwing out the wife with the bathwater. :(
LITERALLY!!!
Anna Karenina 09-25-2017, 09:16 PM LITERALLY!!!
:wave:
Sounds like a possibility. Strange though given the fact that Les Moonves's wife Julie Chen had so much public friction with Leah Remini (https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/m/499c82d7-4e61-3cad-a45d-8a747350040c/ss_kevin-james-and-leah-remini.html) that she would be welcomed back like that.
In any case killing off Erinn's character was way too harsh an option in my opinion.
It is like throwing out the wife with the bathwater. :(
Kevin James Says 'Kevin Can Wait' Isn't 'King of Queens' Reboot (https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/m/a2282ffe-3600-3390-8043-2b445b7da989/ss_kevin-james-says-%27kevin-can.html)
Anna Karenina 09-25-2017, 09:32 PM If you thought the show couldn't get any worse they somehow found a way. :(
Anna Karenina 09-25-2017, 09:36 PM Kevin James Says 'Kevin Can Wait' Isn't 'King of Queens' Reboot (https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/m/a2282ffe-3600-3390-8043-2b445b7da989/ss_kevin-james-says-%27kevin-can.html)
No matter how much he may try to polish this turd it still stinks to high heaven.
This show has no point of view, no genuine moments of laughter or emotion. It is completely pointless and generic.
Leah is fine, she is doing what she can.
But there is no there there.
How did (http://uproxx.com/webculture/how-did-kevin-can-wait-wife-die/3/) #KevinCanWait (https://twitter.com/hashtag/KevinCanWait?src=hash) kill off (http://forums.previously.tv/topic/47971-all-episodes-talk-the-king-of-queens-with-kids/?page=4) Erinn Hayes? http://uproxx.it/2xscTf4
Anna Karenina 09-25-2017, 09:48 PM I need a sweater after watching the way they handled her death.
Cold.
Anna Karenina 09-25-2017, 11:18 PM https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/09/kevin-can-wait-donna-death-erinn-hayes-leah-remini-season-2-premiere
Anna,
Did you watch the Season 2 premiere of this show?
Torgo 09-26-2017, 11:53 AM The wife and I watched the premiere. How they treated Erinn's departure aside, the show wasn't funny during it's first season, and it isn't funny now. Donna Gable's death, and Leah's joining the cast didn't improve the writing.
The problem with the show isn't who or who isn't on the show, it's the poor scripts, and rehashing of plots from King Of Queens. Dull and uninteresting characters is also a problem.
The wife and I watched the premiere. How they treated Erinn's departure aside (https://www.buzzfeed.com/jarettwieselman/how-kevin-can-wait-handled-donnas-death), the show wasn't funny during it's first season, and it isn't funny now. Donna Gable's death, and Leah's joining the cast (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4920234/Erinn-Hayes-firing-glossed-Kevin-James-Kevin-Wait.html) didn't improve the writing.
The problem with the show isn't who or who isn't on the show, it's the poor scripts, and rehashing of plots from King Of Queens. Dull and uninteresting characters is also a problem.
'Kevin Can Wait' Botches 'Wife' Erinn Hayes' Death In Season Premiere (https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/72kfo6/kevin_can_wait_botches_wife_erinn_hayes_death_in/) (yahoo.com (https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-kevin-wait-apos-botches-095505267.html))
Chocolate Moose 09-27-2017, 09:13 AM Leah is fabulous, isn't she? The rest of the cast and show ... not so much.
who8mycookie 09-28-2017, 02:32 AM I will give this time to go in whatever new direction they are trying to take it but I didn't see any new direction.
I will be the first to admit I love the chemistry between James and Remini on KofQ, they were great together. Just bring Deacon and Spence back and do KofQ if it is the chemisty between James and Remini they want to make a success of a show. I get they want to do a different show but essentially they are doing Doug and Carrie as friends.
who8mycookie 09-28-2017, 02:35 AM Does anyone know why they kept the two other kids on the show? I mean why not take the show in a new direction by taking the show in a new direction? Kill off the wife but leave the two younger kids who offer nothing to the show? Just make them disappear like they made the sister on KofQ did. I have watched the show all last season and the premiere and yet to know the two youngest kids names.
RetroGuy2000 09-28-2017, 02:55 AM I hate it when shows write off characters in such a disrespectful way. CBS said it would be handled "respectfully", but that episode definitely wasn't respectful.
TV Guy 09-28-2017, 03:20 AM The outrage over this is a head scratcher to me. The show opened with decent ratings last year, but they declined over the season. Something about the show wasn't clicking with the audience. I don't think it was necessarily the wife. But I get they felt they needed to do a revamp (which I dont think will work).
It's a comedy series; they're not going to pick up the show right after her death. Valerie and Eight is Enough also fast forwarded in time when they wrote out the mothers on those shows.
Chocolate Moose 09-28-2017, 02:29 PM If Will & Grace can come back, why can't King of Queens?
who8mycookie 09-29-2017, 02:38 AM Kevin James I don't think wants to do KofQ again. He keeps saying he wants to play a father, that would possible on KofQ so I just get the feeling he isn't interested in going back to the role that people enjoy of his (and Leah).
I'm not mad about the wifes' death or how it was handled on the episode, I really don't care but a backstory explaining it would be best since people are upset about it. I am bored with the daughter, she doesn't have the sassy attitude that bounces off of Kevins laid back mannerisms, that is why I like Leah added to the cast.
Chocolate Moose 09-29-2017, 09:44 AM They didn't have to kill off the wife. They could have just added Leah as the partner.
Anna Karenina 09-29-2017, 03:31 PM The outrage over this is a head scratcher to me. The show opened with decent ratings last year, but they declined over the season. Something about the show wasn't clicking with the audience. I don't think it was necessarily the wife. But I get they felt they needed to do a revamp (which I dont think will work).
It's a comedy series; they're not going to pick up the show right after her death. Valerie and Eight is Enough also fast forwarded in time when they wrote out the mothers on those shows.
In this case though it wasn't a case of the matriarch dying in real life or there being a contract dispute with the titular character.
As far as I know they just wanted to recreate the old chemistry from his prior show so they summarily dumped one leading lady for another and wrote her out in 2 lines. One of them being a joke about Donna posthumously getting junk mail and a coupon for a Kung Fu lesson. The other a perfunctory line at her not being there at her daughter's wedding that was just tossed off with as little emotion as possible. No tears, no muss, no fuss. It could have been a powerful moment about her being gone but it came off as very coldly efficient, thus the outrage.
Her character deserved better than that.
RetroGuy2000 09-29-2017, 07:33 PM In this case though it wasn't a case of the matriarch dying in real life or there being a contract dispute with the titular character.
As far as I know they just wanted to recreate the old chemistry from his prior show so they summarily dumped one leading lady for another and wrote her out in 2 lines. One of them being a joke about Donna posthumously getting junk mail and a coupon for a Kung Fu lesson. The other a perfunctory line at her not being there at her daughter's wedding that was just tossed off with as little emotion as possible. No tears, no muss, no fuss. It could have been a powerful moment about her being gone but it came off as very coldly efficient, thus the outrage.
Her character deserved better than that.
Well said. Television writers and TV executives spend a great deal of time trying to get viewers to tune in by casting actors that people will like, and creating scripts with characters who people will identify with. They want viewers to like the people they've cast, and they want viewers to invest in the characters... and viewers do.
When a character is summarily axed with no warning, and with no respect for the character or the actor, of course viewers are going to be upset. The only head-scratcher is why anyone wouldn't understand that.
Anna Karenina 09-29-2017, 11:30 PM Well said. Television writers and TV executives spend a great deal of time trying to get viewers to tune in by casting actors that people will like, and creating scripts with characters who people will identify with. They want viewers to like the people they've cast, and they want viewers to invest in the characters... and viewers do.
When a character is summarily axed with no warning, and with no respect for the character or the actor, of course viewers are going to be upset. The only head-scratcher is why anyone wouldn't understand that.
Great post! You summed up my feelings perfectly. :wave:
Leah Remini Defends ‘Kevin Can Wait’ Against Angry Fans After The Show Killed Off Erinn Hayes’ Character (http://uproxx.com/webculture/leah-remini-kevin-can-wait-erinn-hayes-tv-death/)
RetroGuy2000 10-01-2017, 11:33 PM Leah Remini Defends ‘Kevin Can Wait’ Against Angry Fans After The Show Killed Off Erinn Hayes’ Character (http://uproxx.com/webculture/leah-remini-kevin-can-wait-erinn-hayes-tv-death/)
I really like Leah Remini (particularly her brave crusade against Scientology), but I wish she wouldn't defend the producers' decision with "besides, she's on another show now". The producers of KCW had nothing to do with Erinn getting snatched up by Amazon, and their killing off of Erinn's character really reminds me of how the producers on Seinfeld killed off George's fiance, Susan... I still shiver at how cold that was!
KatieAnn 10-02-2017, 10:33 AM I'm certainly glad that Erinn has another show, and I do think that the first season of "Kevin Can Wait" wasn't that impressive, I just don't think she was the issue or the "problem." I liked the character and I like the actress.
The first episode of this season wasn't terrible, it wasn't great. I'm willing to keep watching for now, but I think the backlash was definitely to be expected.
Duster76 10-02-2017, 06:05 PM I'm surprised at many of the reactions here because I think the key point is being missed. KCW was losing audience throughout the first year, it likely was not going to survive. A decision was made (probably right after sweeps) to drop Erinn and replace her with Leah to try to save the series from cancellation. It's a business decision. And it worked! CBS thought there was enough promise in the series redesign to renew.
With respect to how they handled it, again, I don't know how they could have dealt with it any better. Erinn was fired, if they dwell on her character in any sentimental way it might come off as being hypocritical. It's up to the audience now to judge the redesign on its own merits, the original KCW for whatever reason failed to retain enough of an audience. We'll see how it goes, I thought the first episode was good.
JamesG 10-16-2017, 05:36 PM Kevin James Explains Why he Killed Off "Kevin Can Wait" Wife Erinn Hayes and Brought on Leah Remini
by Peter Sblendorio
Oct 14, 2017
Kevin James' sitcom "Kevin Can Wait" killed off a major character to give life to new storylines.
Viewers were surprised this summer to learn that Donna Gable, the on-screen wife of James' character Kevin Gable, would not be returning for Season 2, which premiered last month. Leah Remini, who starred alongside James for nine seasons of "King of Queens", has since joined the full-time cast.
The decision to have Donna, played by Erinn Hayes, die on the show surprised fans, but James says the decision was not a reflection of Hayes' talent or a chemistry issue — but a way to open up new plot possibilities.
"I get that people are like 'Whoa, why would you do this?' But it really felt like a thing like this was needed for this show to drive forward," James said. "Now, I have to deal with my daughter in a different way, and she's gonna go to college, or one's getting married, or the holidays. And it deals with things in a different, weightier way."
James, 52, explained he was originally supposed to star as a single father on the show but he and the producers ultimately decided to give him a wife along with three kids.
The show's makers, however, realized a change was needed after the first season if the series was going to have a lengthy life.
"The plot of the show didn't have enough drive," James said. "If we got through a second season, I wouldn't see us getting through a third one. We were literally just running out of ideas."
James said he's unsure if the show will address Donna's death further, considering it's meant to be a lighthearted sitcom. So far, the series has mostly sidestepped her absence. In the first episode, James' character received a letter from her gym saying they've missed her.
"So do I," he says.
The second season has already brought other major changes. Remini's full-time role on the show as Vanessa Cellucci — James' former partner on the police force — comes after she made a well-received guest appearance on the two-part Season 1 finale.
"When she came on … it was just the greatest," James said. "Fans loved it, everybody on the crew loved it. We just knew right away, so we thought, 'How can we get her here full-time to be on the show?'"
For Remini, it was a dream come true to work with James again after appearing together in over 200 episodes of "King of Queens" from 1998 to 2007.
"It could've been next year, 10 years from now. It could've been 10 years earlier. I would've taken any opportunity to work with Kevin again," Remini said. "I've worked with other leading men after Kevin, but there's something very special that you just can't kind of explain when something works with somebody."
The first few episodes of season two focus on the friendship of their characters, who come to run a small security firm together called Monkey Fist.
"These were ex-partners," Remini says of her and James' characters. "They worked together, and we haven't even begun to go into the back story of that in exploring what their relationship was other than a few sentences here and there."
Remini — who relocated from Los Angeles to the East Coast for the show's filming on Long Island — said it didn't take any time whatsoever for her and James to recapture the rapport showcased on "King of Queens". Just like old times, they trade witty one-liners and sarcasm as Remini's character gets frustrated by James' character's antics.
Remini, 47, and James say they both are playing characters with personalities that mirror their own — and fans love it. "It's not necessarily they relate to the characters, it's they relate to the people who we are in a way," James said. "Which is great to me."
Neither James nor Remini is ruling out eventually exploring a romantic plotline for their characters. "You have to at some point," Remini said. "It's not a 'no,' it's just there's so many episodes to do before that."
Whatever happens, they're thrilled to be sharing a studio again. "It brings back so many amazing memories," Remini said. "And now, we're creating new ones."
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/kevin-james-tv-wife-killed-kevin-wait-article-1.3563140
Mr. Television 10-16-2017, 06:55 PM Ruined the show.
I'm surprised at many of the reactions here because I think the key point is being missed. KCW was losing audience throughout the first year, it likely was not going to survive. A decision was made (probably right after sweeps) to drop Erinn and replace her with Leah to try to save the series from cancellation. It's a business decision. And it worked! CBS thought there was enough promise in the series redesign to renew.
With respect to how they handled it, again, I don't know how they could have dealt with it any better. Erinn was fired, if they dwell on her character in any sentimental way it might come off as being hypocritical. It's up to the audience now to judge the redesign on its own merits, the original KCW for whatever reason failed to retain enough of an audience. We'll see how it goes, I thought the first episode was good.
The fired 'Kevin Can Wait' star is liking angry fan tweets about the show killing her character (https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/the-fired-kevin-can-wait-star-is-liking-angry-fan-tweets-about-the-show-killing-her-character/ar-AAtHg2b?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp)
Erinn Hayes Has Been 'Liking' Tweets from Fans Calling for a Kevin Can Wait Boycott (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/erinn-hayes-apos-liking-apos-174339546.html)
Kevin James Has Just About the Lamest Excuse For Killing Donna Off Kevin Can Wait (https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/kevin-james-just-lamest-excuse-010006710.html)
I really like Leah Remini (particularly her brave crusade against Scientology), but I wish she wouldn't defend the producers' decision with "besides, she's on another show now". The producers of KCW had nothing to do with Erinn getting snatched up by Amazon, and their killing off of Erinn's character really reminds me of how the producers on Seinfeld killed off George's fiance, Susan... I still shiver at how cold that was!
Leah Remini Responds to Angry ‘Kevin Can Wait’ Fans Over Death of Erinn Hayes’ Character (https://www.google.com/search?q=Leah+Remini+Responds+to+Angry+%E2%80%98Kevin+Can+Wait%E2%80%99+Fans+Over+Death+of+Erinn+Hayes%E2%80%99+Character&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjlq77z8ILXAhVCwVQKHSY1A-kQ_AUICigB&biw=1600&bih=794)
RetroGuy2000 10-20-2017, 09:20 PM Leah Remini Responds to Angry ‘Kevin Can Wait’ Fans Over Death of Erinn Hayes’ Character (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/m/f34847a2-aea3-3547-8204-e845e2ee87dd/leah-remini-responds-to-angry.html)
That URL doesn't appear to be working. At least, it didn't work for me.
RetroGuy2000 10-20-2017, 10:10 PM Kevin Can Wait Is TV's Most Subversive Murder Mystery (http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a13033834/kevin-can-wait-season-2-episode-4-wife-death-murder-mystery/)
No "I miss her, too" or "Mom would have loved this." Not even a joke about kung fu in her expense. It only took four episodes, but the Gables have forgotten about Donna, the school nurse who quit her job at the end of Season One and was dead by the premiere of Season Two. The loving wife, the matriarch, the responsible adult supporting Kevin's manchild behavior—she's been swept under the rug, now a cold case in the CBS sitcom. But I've vowed to get to the bottom of her disappearance. And I won't rest until there's #justicefordonna.
It's become clear, these last four weeks, that there's something more sinister going on here. This is the most elaborate sitcom crime of the century and the list of suspects is long: Why does Kevin Gable find it so easy to brush off his wife's death with jokes? Why did King of Queens star Leah Remini conveniently arrive back in town shortly before his wife's disappearance? Why does Kevin James (the IRL Kevin, best known for his roles in Paul Blart: Mall Cop and The King of Queens) refuse to address the cause of his fictional wife's death? Why is this strange fancy British man living in their home? And who is this suspicious Scandinavian giant played by Bas Rutten, an actor who had multiple roles on The King of Queens and played the drill instructor on Paul Blart: Mall Cop? Why is Kevin's brother so good at doctoring photos? And it's bizarre to me that the police force in Kevin Can Wait could miss such obviously suspicious behavior. Although, considering Kevin is a retired police officer, maybe he used his ties to the force to help cover up the crime.
The only explanation is that Kevin Can Wait has become the most subversive murder mystery on TV.
:lol:
Mr. Television 10-20-2017, 10:31 PM That URL doesn't appear to be working. At least, it didn't work for me.
https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/leah-remini-responds-to-angry-kevin-can-wait-fans-over-death-of-erinn-hayes-character.html/?a=viewall
Anna Karenina 10-20-2017, 10:34 PM This show is just the same pile of horse**** it was in season 1.
In fact it is even worse because of the way they mishandled his wife's demise. :(
Chocolate Moose 10-22-2017, 02:20 PM This show is just the same pile of horse**** it was in season 1. In fact it is even worse because of the way they mishandled his wife's demise. :(
You know what? I agree. Kevin James is still crazy funny. The other characters are the same.
Leah's not enough to make this show a hit.
Kevin Can Wait (http://forums.previously.tv/topic/47971-all-episodes-talk-the-king-of-queens-with-kids/?page=6) is now spiraling into an abyss of dead-wife jokes https://trib.al/AwnhDWQ
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DM9WhCqX0AEOJZm.jpg
RetroGuy2000 10-25-2017, 05:01 AM The Death of Donna on Kevin Can Wait Has Taken a ****** Up Turn (http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a13082438/kevin-can-wait-season-2-episode-5-recap/) (language warning).
The Death of Donna on Kevin Can Wait Has Taken a ****** Up Turn (http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a13082438/kevin-can-wait-season-2-episode-5-recap/) (language warning).
http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a13082438/kevin-can-wait-season-2-episode-5-recap/
“This week on Kevin Can Wait, the death of Donna took a weird turn,” says Matt Miller. “A really weird turn. Like f*cked up, even." The Kevin James comedy hasn’t explained how Erinn Hayes’ character died, not after five episodes. But last night’s episode (http://forums.previously.tv/topic/47971-all-episodes-talk-the-king-of-queens-with-kids/?page=7) did revolve around a Parents Without Spouses support group. “Maybe Donna died of the shame of being associated with a group of unscrupulous a**holes," says Miller. Meanwhile, ex-CBS sitcom star Jon Cryer weighs in (http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a13082438/kevin-can-wait-season-2-episode-5-recap/): “Kevin Can Wait has managed to turn the perfunctory death of a major character into a comment on the essential meaninglessness of human life,” tweeted the former Two and a Half Men star.
https://www.thewrap.com/erinn-hayes-kevin-can-wait-leah-remini-scientology/
The Church of Scientology says, via a spokesperson, that it has not attacked the CBS sitcom, which stars former member Leah Remini. But when a Twitter user tweeted at Hayes that some of the anti-Kevin Can Wait tweets she has been liking may have a Scientology agenda, the actress responded: “Very aware and don’t condone any of the bashing. Watch the show or don’t, but I find the personal attacks very ugly.”
Well said. Television writers and TV executives spend a great deal of time trying to get viewers to tune in by casting actors that people will like, and creating scripts with characters who people will identify with. They want viewers to like the people they've cast, and they want viewers to invest in the characters... and viewers do.
When a character is summarily axed with no warning, and with no respect for the character or the actor, of course viewers are going to be upset. The only head-scratcher is why anyone wouldn't understand that.
http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a12771251/kevin-can-wait-season-2-episode-2-wife-death/
The death of Erinn Hayes’ character seemed even more awkward in the second episode without her, says Matt Miller. He adds: “Now, the show has entered into some sort of bizarro primetime sitcom hell loop trapped in the early 2000s—one that I'm convinced is part of a King of Queens Cinematic Universe.” ALSO: Kevin Can Wait’s ratings tumble 33% post-wife killing (http://tvline.com/2017/10/03/lucifer-ratings-season-3-premiere/).
Edward216 01-15-2018, 12:44 AM http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a12771251/kevin-can-wait-season-2-episode-2-wife-death/
The death of Erinn Hayes’ character seemed even more awkward in the second episode without her, says Matt Miller. He adds: “Now, the show has entered into some sort of bizarro primetime sitcom hell loop trapped in the early 2000s—one that I'm convinced is part of a King of Queens Cinematic Universe.” ALSO: Kevin Can Wait’s ratings tumble 33% post-wife killing (http://tvline.com/2017/10/03/lucifer-ratings-season-3-premiere/).
I hope the show gets cancelled and goes to wherever it is sitcoms die never to be seen again for the way they so shabbily fired Erinn Hayes like she was nothing. They're trying to turn it into The King Of Queens anyways, so let them I don't care at all. I've lost a ton of respect for Kevin James. :mad:
Erinn Hayes is having such a totally different experience on Amazon's The Dangerous Book for Boys (http://people.com/tv/erinn-hayes-moving-on-kevin-can-wait-amazon-dangerous-book-boys/)
The actress, who was dumped by CBS' Kevin Can Wait last year, says of her new gig: “They’re such different shows. One is a sitcom, it’s three jokes a page… You’re not diving into too much real emotion. And I had a wonderful time on that. And now I’m on this. This show is so true to life, and it’s… cinematic. The jokes can be the jokes and they come when they come, but it’s not like you gotta hit that thing.”
Kevin James's New Stand-Up Might Explain Why Erinn Hayes Left Kevin Can Wait (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/m/18d006a9-fa6f-3667-9e17-6d1a85038a43/ss_kevin-james%27s-new-stand-up.html)
But considering James's intolerance of anyone who is intolerant to any type of food, is it possible this connects to recent changes on his hit sitcom Kevin Can Wait? I've been following the disappearance of beloved Kevin Can Wait character Donna Gable (Erinn Hayes) who mysteriously vanished between Season One and Season Two. Is it possible that Hayes fell into one of these groups with a food allergy? Was she lactose intolerant? Or, even worse, did she have such a severe nut allergy that no nuts were allowed on the set? This clearly would be something that would enrage Kevin James, who does not like to tailor his diet to other people's needs.
Meanwhile, King of Queens star Leah Remini, with whom Kevin worked with for many years, must have the most reliable digestive system of any co-star he's worked with. This is something to think about as the subversive murder-mystery sitcom Kevin Can Wait returns next week.
Dr. Thong 04-26-2018, 05:09 PM I know someone who's a Kevin James/King Of Queens fan and even they don't like the fact they killed off the wife from the first season and brought in Leah.
I know someone who's a Kevin James/King Of Queens fan and even they don't like the fact they killed off the wife from the first season and brought in Leah.
Kevin Can Wait hasn't recovered after the unexplained death of Erinn Hayes' character (https://www.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/kevin-can-wait-review-1.18386544)
Not explaining why Kevin James' TV wife died has hurt the CBS sitcom (http://forums.previously.tv/topic/47971-all-episodes-talk-the-king-of-queens-with-kids/?page=11), which is now on the bubble for next season. "A weird black hole has existed at the center of Kevin this season because it's finally occurred to fans, viewers, really anyone, that Kevin hasn't a clue what happened to Donna and couldn't care less, either," says Verne Gay. "Successful sitcoms float on a cloud of fake goodwill and bonhomie, even the most seditious of them (Seinfeld). By bumping off Donna, Kevin couldn't even fake that." ALSO: Patton Oswalt would reunite with former King of Queens co-star Kevin James on Kevin Can Wait "in a second." (http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/04/patton-oswalt-reunite-kevin-james-kevin-can-wait/)
Dr. Thong 05-05-2018, 10:13 AM Kevin Can Wait hasn't recovered after the unexplained death of Erinn Hayes' character (https://www.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/kevin-can-wait-review-1.18386544)
Not explaining why Kevin James' TV wife died has hurt the CBS sitcom (http://forums.previously.tv/topic/47971-all-episodes-talk-the-king-of-queens-with-kids/?page=11), which is now on the bubble for next season. "A weird black hole has existed at the center of Kevin this season because it's finally occurred to fans, viewers, really anyone, that Kevin hasn't a clue what happened to Donna and couldn't care less, either," says Verne Gay. "Successful sitcoms float on a cloud of fake goodwill and bonhomie, even the most seditious of them (Seinfeld). By bumping off Donna, Kevin couldn't even fake that." ALSO: Patton Oswalt would reunite with former King of Queens co-star Kevin James on Kevin Can Wait "in a second." (http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/04/patton-oswalt-reunite-kevin-james-kevin-can-wait/)
They never explained it??
I only watched the pilot out of curiosity. I'm not a Kevin James fan and have no interest in the show. But as an outside observer, I find it weird that they didn't explain the death.
Any show where a character dies (on camera or off), they usually explain what happened and it gives us closure and an understanding of how it's impacting the characters.
This show just seems lame. It seems like they made a bad decision and are paying the price for it.
Is the show coming back next season?
CBS admits Kevin Can Wait fans weren't happy with the decision to kill off Erinn Hayes' wife character (http://www.indiewire.com/2018/05/kevin-can-wait-erinn-hayes-death-kevin-james-cbs-1201965247/)
“Creatively, the show made a choice (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/kevin-wait-cbs-brass-decision-143842787.html) at the beginning of last year,” said CBS Entertainment senior executive vice president Thom Sherman. “We agreed to go along with it and unfortunately the audience didn’t respond to it.” CBS Entertainment president Kelly Kahl cited "the numbers" in deciding to cancel the Kevin James series. (http://deadline.com/2018/05/kevin-can-wait-canceled-cbs-executives-reaction-reasons-kevin-james-1202391972/) “It was a strong show for us, it’s had a lot of decline this year, it was heading in the wrong direction," said Kahl. "The numbers were going down as the year went on and looking forward, it didn’t look like a show that was going to be strong enough to anchor a night for us going forward.”
Chocolate Moose 05-16-2018, 02:01 PM Kevin James is just so funny that I continued to watch, even though the way the story went was painful.
RetroGuy2000 05-16-2018, 02:33 PM ‘Kevin Can Wait’ gets what it deserves (https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/2018/05/14/kevin-can-wait-gets-what-deserves/zf9ClrlQnP3vYQgGoFhZkJ/story.html)
So remember when CBS decided to fire Erinn Hayes from “Kevin Can Wait” after the first season, so that they could bring in Leah Remini, star Kevin James’s former costar on the popular “King of Queens,” so they could manufacture a giant ratings hit?
Well, the plan failed. Miserably. That “creative overhaul,” which was unnecessary and, in terms of Hayes’s firing and the killing off of her character, unseemly, did not send the series to the top of the Nielsens. In fact, the show had a ratings slide during the second season, and this week the network has decided to cancel it.
Torgo 05-16-2018, 02:46 PM Not surprised. I stopped watching during the first season. Kevin and Errin had zero chemistry. The children were annoying, the British boyfriend was annoying.
I watched some of the eps with Leah, just made me miss King Of Queens, when both Kevin and Leah were still funny.
Plus seeing the show rehash King Of Queens plot lines got old fast.
JamesG 01-09-2020, 09:12 PM Killed-off "Kevin Can Wait" Actress Erinn Hayes Says She'd Kill to be On "Kevin Can F— Himself"
by Marcus Jones
January 9, 2020
While she is booked and busy with roles on Netflix shows like "Medical Police" and "Huge in France", actress Erinn Hayes would happily make time to star on AMC’s "Kevin Can F— Himself".
The title of the upcoming show, which plans to use a mix of the single-camera and multi-camera formats to tell a story deconstructing the sitcom wife trope, is clearly a reference to CBS sitcom "Kevin Can Wait", which notoriously killed off Hayes’ wife character to make more room for a "King of Queens" reunion between fellow leads Kevin James and Leah Remini.
Asked about "Kevin Can F— Himself" in a conversation with Vulture, Hayes said she’s read that script and has reached out.
“It’s so good, and I’d kill to be in it,” she said. “The angle [creator Valerie Armstrong] takes on telling this particular story has nothing to do with me. It has nothing to do with Kevin James. It’s just exploring the trope [of the wife supporting the husband].”
Hayes said she does worry that her being cast on the show would become a distraction, with folks saying “Oh, it’s Erinn Hayes, who was killed off Kevin Can Wait,” but adds that “the part they’ve written is so full and so interesting. They just did a great job, and I’m excited to see how the show turns out whether or not I ever get a chance to read for it or be a part of it in any way.”
https://ew.com/tv/2020/01/09/kevin-can-wait-actress-erinn-hayes-kevin-can-f-himself/
This 2-Season Sitcom's Controversial Decision Completely Changed Its Entire Premise in the Worst Way (https://collider.com/kevin-can-wait-wife-controversy-cancelled-erinn-hayes/)
Nostalgia isn't always the best move…
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