So, obviously there were going to be some mistakes throughout the shows run.
One that I found was in the Dennis DePue story, they show the TV with the show on, and you hear Robert Stack's voice talking about Dennis, but you see a picture of Judy Hymes.

Anyone have any others?

So, obviously there were going to be some mistakes throughout the shows run.
One that I found was in the Dennis DePue story, they show the TV with the show on, and you hear Robert Stack's voice talking about Dennis, but you see a picture of Judy Hymes.

Anyone have any others?

I'll have to give that some thought. I did notice the one you pointed out the other night.

So, obviously there were going to be some mistakes throughout the shows run.
One that I found was in the Dennis DePue story, they show the TV with the show on, and you hear Robert Stack's voice talking about Dennis, but you see a picture of Judy Hymes.


Actually, that is not a mistake. It is how the original episode played out because they were wrapping up an update on Judy Hyams before the segue way into the Depue case.

Greg Webb shot Anna Anton three times in the stomach instead of twice like mentioned in the segment.

In the Mark Dennis segment, Stack incorrectly identifies Dennis's helicopter as a Chinook, when it was actually a Sea Knight. To be fair, it's an extremely easy mistake for a non-military person to make- they're very similar looking.

In the Mark Dennis segment, Stack incorrectly identifies Dennis's helicopter as a Chinook, when it was actually a Sea Knight. To be fair, it's an extremely easy mistake for a non-military person to make- they're very similar looking.

Mark's brother Jerry also referred to the crash that killed Mark being a Chinook helicopter as well though.

Been reading up on the Elizabeth Campbell case. The segment shows Elizabeth calling her boyfriend on the 7-11 payphone, but she actually called him from the employee phone inside the store (they let her use it because she worked at another 7-11 and they recognized her).

In the magic rock segment, Stack insinuated that the rock might be magic when it fact, it wasn't.

The actor who portrayed Chaim Weiss. When he was supposed to be dead he moved a little bit noticably. Particularly his eyes.

In the Tony Miller segment, Joseph Clark was supposed to be black but in the re-enactment, you could tell that he wasn't. That's quite the goof.

Stack referred to Marfa as "the Plains of Central Texas". Marfa is definitely in West Texas, and nowhere near Central Texas

In the magic rock segment, Stack insinuated that the rock might be magic when it fact, it wasn't.
:lol:

In the magic rock segment, Stack insinuated that the rock might be magic when it fact, it wasn't.

:D Never gets old.

:D Never gets old.

Ain't that the tooth (sorry for the crappy pun, I went to the dentist this morning)

I still haven't seen Magic Rock segment....

I still haven't seen Magic Rock segment....

It has all the aspects of nature.

I still haven't seen Magic Rock segment....

If you have Amazon Prime, it's on Season 1 of UM and is on the same episode as the Kurt Sova ("Halloween Party Death") and Father Reynaldo Rivera & John Kerrigan ("Priest Murders") segments.

If you have Amazon Prime, it's on Season 1 of UM and is on the same episode as the Kurt Sova ("Halloween Party Death") and Father Reynaldo Rivera & John Kerrigan ("Priest Murders") segments.

That made me laugh when I discovered the Magic Rock had to share an episode with two of the all-time classic segments.

I think that's the way it originally aired as well.

Maybe the magic rock didn't make as much of an impression on a 10 year-old Canadian boy as a case about a teenager being found dead with no known cause of death after having been "missing" for 5 days or a case about a potential "serial killer of priests" would make?

Unsure if this is a goof, but in the Kevin Hughes segment, you see a person in a car duck when the killer guns Kevin down after he falls. We are never told if there was an eyewitness in the car, or if it's a goof of a family member. We are just left to wonder.

The female eyewitness in the Jeremy Bright segment is shown talking to the suspect in a reenactment while wearing a jacket, but in the next shot, she's not wearing a jacket.

I think that's the way it originally aired as well.

Maybe the magic rock didn't make as much of an impression on a 10 year-old Canadian boy as a case about a teenager being found dead with no known cause of death after having been "missing" for 5 days or a case about a potential "serial killer of priests" would make?

Oh, I'm sure a podcast minisode about the magic rock will be high demand :D .

All these shots at the magic rock, which I loved as a little kid.

Current me is laughing right along with you but 8-year old me is giving you all dirty looks.

Oh, I like it too and when I was kid, I believed that LITERALLY ANYTHING could be possible someday. Eventually (in my case, anyway), you grow up and start realizing that there are scientific and logistical reasons for why things do or do not happen. Then, the magic rock becomes "a rock". However, that husband and wife did start getting jobs at a mall, so something that extraordinary could have something to do with the rock.

Unsure if this is a goof, but in the Kevin Hughes segment, you see a person in a car duck when the killer guns Kevin down after he falls. We are never told if there was an eyewitness in the car, or if it's a goof of a family member. We are just left to wonder.



I think the detective mentioned that there were 5 eyewitnesses at the scene/on the street at the time Hughes was shot, but that none of them saw the killer clearly enough to identify him or any characteristics.

Oh, I like it too and when I was kid, I believed that LITERALLY ANYTHING could be possible someday. Eventually (in my case, anyway), you grow up and start realizing that there are scientific and logistical reasons for why things do or do not happen. Then, the magic rock becomes "a rock". However, that husband and wife did start getting jobs at a mall, so something that extraordinary could have something to do with the rock.

The fact that within a month they end up running half of this mall made my cynical ass wonder if they were being set up to take the fall for something :whistle:

The fact that within a month they end up running half of this mall made my cynical ass wonder if they were being set up to take the fall for something :whistle:

Especially when the owners of the mall first offered to stock their first store and then let them buy the movie theater for super cheap because the husband did such a good job running it for like 30 days.

The fact that within a month they end up running half of this mall made my cynical ass wonder if they were being set up to take the fall for something :whistle:

Maybe it was actually "the manipulative rock". We need an Update on that family to find out. The Amazon Prime episode featured no such thing.

Oh, I'm sure a podcast minisode about the magic rock will be high demand :D .

You need to bump it to the top of the list, Robin!!

You need to bump it to the top of the list, Robin!!

I'm actually kicking myself for not releasing a special April Fool's Day episode today about the Magic Rock :lol: .

I'm actually kicking myself for not releasing a special April Fool's Day episode today about the Magic Rock :lol: .

Write it down for next April 1st. You know we won't remember this conversation in a year LOL

Write it down for next April 1st. You know we won't remember this conversation in a year LOL


Make sure Vince takes the creepy music to another level for that one, Robin.

Two geographical goofs involving my home state of Ohio ...
* In the Circleville murders segment, Stack said Freshour was imprisoned in Lima, "more than 200 miles" from Circleville. He was indeed in Lima, but it's 110 miles away at most. 200 does make it sound more dramatic.
* In the prostitute murders segment, Stack says "nearby" Medina County when referring to Licking County. They're about 100 miles apart. Licking is right next to Columbus, and Medina County borders Cuyahoga County (Cleveland).

The woman interviewed in the Mikki Jo West segment is introduced as "Mikki's sister in law". She is actually Mikki's sister...but I don't think this was a goof, I think it was to protect the situation, and Mikki's killer was the sister's estranged husband.

In the Dede Rosenthal update it shows footage of Greg Webb driving off. This was the Farina version

I could be very wrong, but on the Flight 19 segment, when they show other "victims" of the Bermuda Triangle, there may be a period missing after one of the S's in the ship called Cyclops.

**Sorry upfront if this is overkill.


In the Mark Dennis segment, Stack incorrectly identifies Dennis's helicopter as a Chinook, when it was actually a Sea Knight. To be fair, it's an extremely easy mistake for a non-military person to make- they're very similar looking.

Mark's brother Jerry also referred to the crash that killed Mark being a Chinook helicopter as well though.

That's correct, he does. But I still maintain that it's an error.

There's the circumstantial fact that the Chinook is/was not used by the Navy & Marine Corps, although I myself "caught rides" on other branches' helicopters on more than one occasion while overseas.

But more importantly (to me) the episode shows a photo which RS claimed was Mark's actual helicopter being shot down. The helicopter in the photo is a CH-46 Sea Knight, not a CH-47 Chinook. I base my belief on several distinct differences between the air-frames themselves. Like I mentioned before, its a common mistake-most people see the dual rotors and not much else. The relative size is a give-away, but that's tough to discern from the photo. I've attached a snip from the Segment, as well as a CH-46 and -47. Note how the Chinook's airframe is "bubbled out" at the bottom for about 3/4 of its length, while on the Sea Knight the comparable feature is only is just a small portion near the rear landing gear.
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Another feature is the front landing gear shown in the UM photo is much too far forward to be the Chinook. (Tough to tell from the photo but also the Chinook has 2 parallel sets of front landing gear vs. one on the Sea Knight)

I actually think Jerry's statement might have been the source of the erroneous ID which made it into the script for RS's narration.

In the update that appears on Amazon regarding the two Barbaras (Season 4, Episode 11, I think), the word reunited is spelled wrong.

This one might be a case of splitting hairs, BUT in rhe segment on the Phoenix socialite Jeannie that was murdered, the cop says there was white carpeting throughout the house. But when Jeannie is walking the freelance reporter to the couch, the carpet appears to be a shade of blue.

A rare case of continuity....

Unnamed Cult Member has her hair cut off for disobeying Nelson DeCloud. In keeping with the "several years later" she can be seen working in the office when Julie meets Tim

Her wig I mean hair is back to normal. It stays that way even when they evacuate.

In the Michael Hunter segment, the police officer says there was no breeze the night of the killing. Yet in RS narration a few moments later we hear of the winter breeze.

While we're in the Bay Area, if I'm not mistaken, during the Kurt McFall segment the date Sept 10 is mentioned twice but the narrative surrounding it suggests two different days of the week are alluded to.

Rachel Timmerman dad mentioned her working at a restaurant and he almost says McDonalds but stops himself. I guess he could get sued?

Is it just me or does RS call Christie Nichols Christie nichol in the opening of the segment

Rachel Timmerman dad mentioned her working at a restaurant and he almost says McDonalds but stops himself. I guess he could get sued?
I always noticed this, but I figured he just didn't want to give specifics. I don't think he would have to worry about getting sued for saying his daughter worked there.

One mistake from that segment I also notice is the update. RS switched Rachel's name with her daughter Shannon's.

I always noticed this, but I figured he just didn't want to give specifics. I don't think he would have to worry about getting sued for saying his daughter worked there.

One mistake from that segment I also notice is the update. RS switched Rachel's name with her daughter Shannon's.

Yeah, that mistake always bummed me out. I had heard RS was pretty involved with certain cases, so I found it shocking he wouldn't catch that mistake....

In the segment on the air crash in Gander, he pronounces "Newfoundland" wrong. It is supposed to sound like "newf-in-land".

On an unrelated note, I was visiting Gander this summer and my very first stop was the site of the plane crash and where the segment was filmed.

The woman interviewed in the Mikki Jo West segment is introduced as "Mikki's sister in law". She is actually Mikki's sister...but I don't think this was a goof, I think it was to protect the situation, and Mikki's killer was the sister's estranged husband.

I'm seeing some other articles saying that they were in fact Sisters in law and that Micki Jo was married to West's brother. I think that's the accurate take because Micki Jo's father's name is Arden Locke, so presumably, Locke is Micki Jo's maiden name.

EDIT:

her empty 'grave', she is shown as 'Micki Jo Locke' and not West. Estranged husband? No mention on the segment.

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=5581974

Her father Arden wrote a book called 'Micki' about her:

https://books.google.com/books/about/Micki.html?id=yrEPogEACAAJ

In the 'Tom Hughes' segment about the dude who habitually hospital-hopped (alliteration!): as he's being coded at the beginning of the segment a doctor grabs defibrillator paddles off the machine although there are already defibrillator pads on the patient's chest (and he actually puts the paddles on top of the sticky pads).

In the John Hardin house segment, the reenactment has Hardin in bed at the time he noticed the fire in his driveway, but he was actually passing by his bedroom window just after returning home from a service call.

In the Kenneth Stanton segment if you listen careful,y when the pseudo milkman creepy actor is talking to the young girl, a detective talks over one of the lines. They cut to the detective and then upon returning to the situation, they repeat the exact same lines.

Also They called Deanna Woodard Deanna Woodward a couple times.

Also In many of the farina sendups, they often changed the people in silhouette all the time.

Also, another glaring one was the las cruces incident....on the farina version the interviewee was called Charles. Yet his name is obviously Steve senac.

Also if you look at the gypsy fraud clip with Lena Marie Wilson and Anne coracelli...the first fraud victim profiled is unquestionably not talking in sync with the audio of her account

I can think of a few.

The Bird Road Rapist segment - Stack states that Luis Diaz was arrested at 2 a.m. But it appears to be daylight outside. As a side note, the acting by the cops is noticeably bad ("we're here for the BIRD ROAD RAPIST!" *shoves Mrs. Diaz onto the couch*).

Building on Stack's mispronunciation of Canadian geography, he states that Jerry Gervasoni was arrested in "Salt Springs Island, BC". It's actually Salt SPRING Island (in the singular). He also butchers the pronunciation of other BC cities of Kitwanga (in the Philip Fraser segment) and Chilliwack (in the Clifford Sherwood segment).

When Edward Wayne Beverly was finally identified as Ethel Kidd's killer and UM reported the update, Ethel's son-in-law's name is "Thomas Kidd". That was probably not correct, and in the original segment he was only identified as "Thomas".

When the case of Angela Hammond (from Missouri) was re-shown during Lifetime's 2001/2 revival, the graphics people goofed at one point, identifying the detective interviewed as coming from the "Clinton, Montana" police department (the graphic in the original segment had "Clinton, Mo." so perhaps the fact that the O wasn't capitalized tripped someone up later on).

There were some differences in seasons from when events were re-created and when events actually occurred:
The Orange Sock murders segment - Annette Schnee's body was discovered in July but there is still snow on the ground.
The Bigfoot segment from Season 1 where the cabin was broken into and hair was left in the door screen & frame which supposedly took place in 'early August', but it looks to be winter, and the boys who discovered the hair are wearing winter outdoor clothing.
(Of course, if it's not unusual for Colorado to still have snow at higher elevations in the summer months, then disregard both these observations above!)
Anna Anton was murdered in Nebraska just before Christmas, but the segment clearly was filmed in the summer before its airing, since there was absolutely no snow to be seen.

There were some differences in seasons from when events were re-created and when events actually occurred:
The Orange Sock murders segment - Annette Schnee's body was discovered in July but there is still snow on the ground.
The Bigfoot segment from Season 1 where the cabin was broken into and hair was left in the door screen & frame which supposedly took place in 'early August', but it looks to be winter, and the boys who discovered the hair are wearing winter outdoor clothing.
Anna Anton was murdered in Nebraska just before Christmas, but the segment clearly was filmed in the summer before its airing, since there was absolutely no snow to be seen.

There were many cases where specific segments were shot at the wrong time of the year, if you want to get technical.

Joyce McLain was murdered while jogging in the summer, she was wearing a t-shirt and shorts. In the reenactment, she's wearing a sweatsuit and despite no snow, it's clearly winter outside.

At the start of the Roger Dean segment, two kids are riding their bikes to school and it looks like summer (or spring) despite his murder taking place in late November in Colorado.

The film crew had to work with what they were dealt in regards to the weather. I still think it was cool that they traveled to the cities these cases took place.

Anna Anton was murdered in Nebraska just before Christmas, but the segment clearly was filmed in the summer before its airing, since there was absolutely no snow to be seen.
I live in Canada (Nova Scotia) and we barely had any snow the entire winter: maybe a month total where the ground had any significant white stuff. I can't remember the last time we had a white Christmas either.

Might have been mentioned before, but in the Philip Fraser segment near the end, Stack states "what happened on Highway 1?" but Philip was murdered along Highway 37. The 40 Mile Flat Café was off 37 as well.

Highway 1 runs East-West and Philip did indeed take that highway to enter Yukon Territory, but he then turned south on Highway 37, which runs North-South, and entered British Columbia.

When Jerry's friend picks him up at the Newark NJ airport after he allegedly killed Paula Pasciak, those almost look like palm trees in the background. As much as I wish otherwise, there are no palm trees in NJ.

Also, posted this one in wrong thread, but it almost sounds like cop interviewed for Barbara Jean Horn case says the crime happened in January in one sebtence and the crime happened in July in another.

(Again, apologies if posted before...)

Stack said that Jim Burnside was "46" when he married Annette in 1981, but his date of birth (clearly seen when they showed his mugshot against a complete suspect bulletin) was 1937, which would have made him 44.

The Clarence Roberts fires were presented as "exactly ten years apart" on the show, but they were actually about ten years and ten days apart from each other. The first fire happened on November 18, 1970, and the second fire happened on November 29, 1980. The footage of the headstone carrying Clarence's name is shown prominently at the end of the segment, in which 'November 29, 1980' as his death date can be clearly seen.

Another one I just thought of....

I'm a bit of a plane nut, and everyone knows that DB Cooper hijacked a Boeing 727. However, near the end of the first part of the segment about him, they show "Flight 305" taking off, but it's clearly a Air New Zealand Boeing 747 - you can clearly see the koru logo on the tail. Then, as Stack talks about the weather deteriorating, the plane shown is a much smaller DC-9.

Another one I just ran across - in the Melvine Aprile case at the very beginning, the abduction is noted as taking place in January 1988, then later on it changes to January 1989 (the latter was correct).

Is it just me or does RS call Christie Nichols Christie nichol in the opening of the segment

I'm now reminded of the Maria Armstrong case, where she was referred to as "Marie" a few times, especially by the Mesa detective.

A couple of more small mistakes I noticed:

Lionel Luviano - when his family cut the leg shackles you can see these are the cheap kind you would find at an adult store, definitely not the kind police would use. I also doubt they actually used a bolt cutter as hand and leg cuffs almost all use an easily obtained (and concealed) universal key.

Mystery Hum - When they highlighted all the countries that the hum was reported, they forgot the 4 Atlantic provinces (but not Labrador) when highlighting Canada.

I live in Canada (Nova Scotia) and we barely had any snow the entire winter: maybe a month total where the ground had any significant white stuff. I can't remember the last time we had a white Christmas either.
I live in NS as well.

With the Rachel Timmerman case (Season 10, Episode 9 of Filmrise), it's already been mentioned how her dad, Tim, slips and starts saying McDonald's when talking about Rachel's job. But there is a much bigger mistake before that.

In the caption introducing Tim Timmerman, he is listed as "Velda's Father." Velda is Rachel's mother and Tim's wife.

https://youtu.be/bj1X3IndR6U?si=_kIMCLe4wObKD2Bo&t=1849

As an aside I am not sure why Tim didn't try to kill Gabrion after he was released on bond for raping his daughter.

In the caption introducing Tim Timmerman, he is listed as "Velda's Father." Velda is Rachel's mother and Tim's wife.

Good catch!

Stack referred to Marfa as "the Plains of Central Texas". Marfa is definitely in West Texas, and nowhere near Central Texas

yes good catch. I've been noticing that the last few times I've watched. It is far west Texas and is a high desert town. near the big bend of the Rio Grande. Part of the Chihuahuan Desert with a few sky island mountain formations overlooking the town. Some have said the changes of elevation and lack of light pollution are to be the cause of the light phenomena. You can also see for miles in the area with mountainous roads in the distance so there is no doubt often times people are seeing headlights.

I also question the part of the segment where the guy says they hiked the desert to sneak up on the lights. I assume that he was trying to catch a prankster or a trespasser if he was a land owner. which brings to light, if he wasn't a land owner, he would have been a trespasser himself as most of Texas is privately owned. all of that desert area is fenced off. I imagine that they hiked a short distance somewhere that they had permission to walk.

One mistake I noticed is in the segment about the two women named Mary Morris. They distinguished the two by calling one Mary Lou Morris and the other Mary McGinnis Morris but Stack refers to the wrong Mary in the segment while describing the events.