Can't wait! I haven't seen the show in years! March 25:D

I see as far as the schedule goes so far(ET)

Sat 25th 12pm-8pm
Mon 27th 4am-11am and 7pm- 11pm

That's waaaay too much, even to me......

Nice! We get this channel!

I don't get Logo. :(

Every once in a great while they will interrupt their commercialthon with a whopping two minutes of a One Day At A Time episode. Better than nothing I suppose.

I'm going to be DVR the episodes since only season 1 has been released.

I'm going to be DVR the episodes since only season 1 has been released.

They're going to be like 18 minute episodes. Logo butchers shows.

I don't know if I get this channel or not??? :confused: I hope!! ;)

I see as far as the schedule goes so far(ET)

Sat 25th 12pm-8pm
Mon 27th 4am-11am and 7pm- 11pm

That's waaaay too much, even to me......


What? I don't understand ?:crazy: Do you mean this is just a marathon. It won't be on all the time?:confused:

Every once in a great while they will interrupt their commercialthon with a whopping two minutes of a One Day At A Time episode. Better than nothing I suppose.

I also thought about that. AntennaTV would run it in the format of

opening credits
commercials
beginning of episode
mid point commercials
end of episode, closing credits (the credits would be crunched, but I never cared about that)

I had a feeling this network might chop it up much more.

What? I don't understand ?:crazy: Do you mean this is just a marathon. It won't be on all the time?:confused:

Don't know. That's as far as I can access the schedule as of now.

AWESOME SAUCE!!!!!:eek: I just found out we do get LOGO!!! ;) :)

Now somebody please explain to a blonde elderly woman what time it will be on!!!!:D :crazy:

MAX I want to see MAX!!!:eek: :heart: I suppose I can make it through the first four seasons till he shows up!!!:D

They're going to be like 18 minute episodes. Logo butchers shows.
I know but it's better than nothing.

It's bad on Antenna TV and it will be even worse on Logo. Too much editing, commercials in wrong places, and credit crunches or no credits at all. Shout really needs to release a complete series on DVD.

What? I don't understand ?:crazy: Do you mean this is just a marathon. It won't be on all the time?:confused:

It will air in blocks at various times, but it seems it will mainly air weekdays from 9am-11am.

AWESOME SAUCE!!!!!:eek: I just found out we do get LOGO!!! ;) :)

Now somebody please explain to a blonde elderly woman what time it will be on!!!!:D :crazy:

MAX I want to see MAX!!!:eek: :heart: I suppose I can make it through the first four seasons till he shows up!!!:D

I'll explain it to a blonde young woman.

I gave you the ET times I saw, but I don't know if Logo does separate east and west coast feeds or not.

Shout really needs to release a complete series on DVD.

They do. Let's hope someone is listening.

I'll explain it to a blonde young woman.

I gave you the ET times I saw, but I don't know if Logo does separate east and west coast feeds or not.


Oh OK!!! I just found the west coast schedule!!:) Now I understand!!!;) Boy that's a lot of eps at one time!!! We will be to Max eps really soon!!:) :) :) :heart: :eyes: :love:

Thank you Opus and Ron for explaining it to me !!:) :wave:

I am going to be watching; even if it's butchered. This show hasn't fared well in syndication over the years.

We've talked about the commercials and chopped up editing on the network , but another question (if you're a LOGO viewer), how long do they tend to stay showing an old show like this before they dump it and move on to another one?

The episodes that were up seem to have been taken off the schedule....

http://www.logotv.com/tv-schedule

(they had been on starting Mar. 25 12pm)

I wonder what the heck is going on over there. Anyone have info?

Someone jump the gun? Contract issues (A Sony Favorite)

Bad enough AntennaTV just took the show off.

Some classic TV shows just can't get a break - and this is a Norman Lear one to boot!

Oh, and Hello, folks - nice forum you have here.

I wonder what the heck is going on over there. Anyone have info?

Someone jump the gun? Contract issues (A Sony Favorite)

Bad enough AntennaTV just took the show off.

Some classic TV shows just can't get a break - and this is a Norman Lear one to boot!

Oh, and Hello, folks - nice forum you have here.

Hello to you too, RetroTVNitekatt. :wave: :wave: :wave:

Good News - LOGO updated their listings and it Looks like the show will begin on April 2nd with a Marathon of Season 1 episodes! 12pm to 5pm - The first 10 episodes.

Good News - LOGO updated their listings and it Looks like the show will begin on April 2nd with a Marathon of Season 1 episodes! 12pm to 5pm - The first 10 episodes.

My on screen cable guide agrees :wave:

Logo is one of those channels that loves to show series in such blocks that even if you like the series, you won't by the time the block is done. The also do ridiculous timeslots like 7:38 to 8:24 to squeeze in even more commercials, or at least they used to. When they aired Facts of Life, it seems like they showed the same group of episodes over and over and over and over. It's a typical Viacom channel, giving you less for more. Originally airing gay-oriented programming, it now just shows old series with a supposed gay following, or failing that, series that any gay person might watch, which, lo and behold, are the same as straight people! Talk about channel drifting, Logo has drifted right off any map, and is now drowning in episodes of All in the Family and Roseanne we've all seen three million times.
But, as has been said, it's better than NOTHING (are you listening, Antenna TV, I'm talking to YOU!!!!!).

Logo is one of those channels that loves to show series in such blocks that even if you like the series, you won't by the time the block is done. The also do ridiculous timeslots like 7:38 to 8:24 to squeeze in even more commercials, or at least they used to. When they aired Facts of Life, it seems like they showed the same group of episodes over and over and over and over. It's a typical Viacom channel, giving you less for more. Originally airing gay-oriented programming, it now just shows old series with a supposed gay following, or failing that, series that any gay person might watch, which, lo and behold, are the same as straight people! Talk about channel drifting, Logo has drifted right off any map, and is now drowning in episodes of All in the Family and Roseanne we've all seen three million times.
But, as has been said, it's better than NOTHING (are you listening, Antenna TV, I'm talking to YOU!!!!!).

It is better than nothing, but nonetheless it will be 17 or 18 minute episodes. :rolleyes: But, unfortunately, some people will still watch it. It's too bad. I wish Antenna would bring it back.

It is better than nothing, but nonetheless it will be 17 or 18 minute episodes. :rolleyes: But, unfortunately, some people will still watch it. It's too bad. I wish Antenna would bring it back.

Me too! I want it back on Antenna!;) You'd think it would have stayed as the other Norman Lear shows are like gold on Antenna TV!! ;)

Me too! I want it back on Antenna!;) You'd think it would have stayed as the other Norman Lear shows are like gold on Antenna TV!! ;)

I think sadly that only applies to the ones connected to All in the Family. But the Norman Lear sitcoms will be rested in late 2017, per Antenna on Facebook. I hope ODAAT didn't expire, but they haven't said anything. If it did expire, it sure did quietly, kind of like when The Dick Van Dyke Show expired from MeTV.

It is better than nothing, but nonetheless it will be 17 or 18 minute episodes. :rolleyes: But, unfortunately, some people will still watch it. It's too bad. I wish Antenna would bring it back.

Sven!:wave:

At those truncated run times, they better be VERY careful of what scenes they cut!

Edit Max scenes, face Bonnie's wrath!
Slash Barbara scenes, opus and Nordy will come looking for you!
Hack Alex scenes, and I'll hold my breath till I'm blue in the face!

It is better than nothing, but nonetheless it will be 17 or 18 minute episodes. :rolleyes: But, unfortunately, some people will still watch it. It's too bad. I wish Antenna would bring it back.

Sven!:wave:

As those truncated run times, they better be VERY careful of what scenes they cut!

Edit Max scenes, face Bonnie's wrath!
Slash Barbara scenes, opus will come looking for you!
Hack Alex scenes, and I'll hold my breath till I'm blue in the face!

Sven!:wave:

As those truncated run times, they better be VERY careful of what scenes they cut!

Edit Max scenes, face Bonnie's wrath!
Slash Barbara scenes, opus will come looking for you!
Hack Alex scenes, and I'll hold my breath till I'm blue in the face!

Alex!:wave:

To show my age here, isn't ODAAT on Logo lit?

Which basically translates to, ODAAT on Logo is great if they wouldn't hack it up.:wave:

Alex!:wave:

To show my age here, isn't ODAAT on Logo lit?

Which basically translates to, ODAAT on Logo is great if they wouldn't hack it up.:wave:

I do understand the gay following for One Day; I was being especially vicious with my critique of Logo. Showing gay-followed shows wouldn't be so bad if, as you said, they didn't hack them to pieces! It's One Day at a Time, not One Minute Per Commercial Block.

Sven!:wave:

As those truncated run times, they better be VERY careful of what scenes they cut!

Edit Max scenes, face Bonnie's wrath!
Slash Barbara scenes, opus will come looking for you!
Hack Alex scenes, and I'll hold my breath till I'm blue in the face!


NO!!!! They better not cut any Max scenes!!!:( This will be me!!:mad:

NO!!!! They better not cut any Max scenes!!!:( This will be me!!:mad:

Based on past posts, something tells me no one would care if they cut Ann/David or Ann/Nick relationship scenes. In fact, people might thank Logo! Stick to the triumvirate of treats, and they might be good.:lol:

Logo is one of those channels that loves to show series in such blocks that even if you like the series, you won't by the time the block is done. The also do ridiculous timeslots like 7:38 to 8:24 to squeeze in even more commercials, or at least they used to. When they aired Facts of Life, it seems like they showed the same group of episodes over and over and over and over. It's a typical Viacom channel, giving you less for more. Originally airing gay-oriented programming, it now just shows old series with a supposed gay following, or failing that, series that any gay person might watch, which, lo and behold, are the same as straight people! Talk about channel drifting, Logo has drifted right off any map, and is now drowning in episodes of All in the Family and Roseanne we've all seen three million times.
But, as has been said, it's better than NOTHING (are you listening, Antenna TV, I'm talking to YOU!!!!!).

Alex , I had asked this, but no one answered

We've talked about the commercials and chopped up editing on the network , but another question (if you're a LOGO viewer), how long do they tend to stay showing an old show like this before they dump it and move on to another one?

Do you have any idea?

Alex , I had asked this, but no one answered



Do you have any idea?

I can't say for sure, but it seems like a matter of months. DVR these while you can!:lol:

I can't say for sure, but it seems like a matter of months. DVR these while you can!:lol:

Thanks :wave:

I say LOGO should just play all the eps. Max is in over and over again ;) :love: and all the other eps. they should just show once!!;) :D

We've talked about the commercials and chopped up editing on the network , but another question (if you're a LOGO viewer), how long do they tend to stay showing an old show like this before they dump it and move on to another one?
They started showing Green Acres less than four months ago but now it's long gone. Granted, I never watched a full episode on that channel because they make it a terrible viewing experience.

Sadly, editing is a fact of life these days, but there are different types of editing. (Times are after commercials)

1) Editing by the Studio/Syndicator - done with care - you get most of your half hours (25:00) cut down to 22:30 on average. These were done in the mid 1980's when new prints (VT replacing 16mm) were put together. These ranged from lines to full scenes but plots were intact.

Although watching a "Mork & Mindy" is odd as there's audience reactions to lines cut and no reaction to funny stuff by Robin. Viacom cut full small scenes, Paramount took lines and intro/extros. The Viacom edits are the best, they took care especially with PERRY MASON (A Show where bad editing would hurt 45:00) and THE TWILIGHT ZONE. (22:30) Scenes that were references in the next scene were usually the ones removed-trimmed by Viacom. When CBS Television Studios (Viacom Successor) Created edited HD masters for Broadcast over the last few years, they mirrored the 1980's edits for the most part

2) Additional editing by the channel - here's where the fun is - clueless editors who take no care in keeping the plot intact where some episodes run 21:00 from the already edited studio prints!

They started showing Green Acres less than four months ago but now it's long gone. Granted, I never watched a full episode on that channel because they make it a terrible viewing experience.

LOGO is running episodes in the early hours of April 2nd in the 12mid-4am slot. Guess they have runs to burn off.

They started showing Green Acres less than four months ago but now it's long gone. Granted, I never watched a full episode on that channel because they make it a terrible viewing experience.


Wow! :( And now Antenna shows it SO EARLY on PST that I don't get to see it anymore unless I'm up with the chickens and roosters !!!:( I was so glad they had that marathon on St. Patrick's day! ;) :wave:

Wow! :( And now Antenna shows it SO EARLY on PST that I don't get too see it anymore unless I'm up with the chickens!!!:( I was so glad they had that marathon on St. Patrick's day! ;) :wave:
I know, it's a shame. I remember when they used to give it afternoon slots when they first acquired it.

The marathon was great though. :wave:

Looks like starting 4/3 Logo has ODAAT scheduled daily 12-2:30 pm ET

Looks like starting 4/3 Logo has ODAAT scheduled daily 12-2:30 pm ET

Always odd blocks of time. A DVD can hold at LP 4 hours and at EP 6 hours... :) I've got no intention of removing out commercials live either :)

Looks like weekends will have 6 episodes - but no idea yet (Listings not updated) if it's the same sequence as weekdays or separate.

I wonder how edited-and/or time-compressed the episodes will be and how the end credits will be set up.

Looks like 5 episodes weekdays, 6 episodes on Saturdays and nothing on Sunday

and ironically, the show will run on Saturday and Wednesday part of the same time Valerie's cooking show is on FOOD NET - that's got to be some trivia there.

Looks like 5 episodes weekdays, 6 episodes on Saturdays and nothing on Sunday

and ironically, the show will run on Saturday and Wednesday part of the same time Valerie's cooking show is on FOOD NET - that's got to be some trivia there.

Looks like M-F starts from Episode #1
Saturdays (and the first Sunday) from Season 4.

Oh, this is going to be fun following the cycle!

Looks like M-F starts from Episode #1
Saturdays (and the first Sunday) from Season 4.

Oh, this is going to be fun following the cycle!

Glad they are doing Season 4 since I haven't seen it in many many years. I have season 1 on dvd already. Can't wait to see it today!

Have the DVR set!:wave:

I'm still kind of confused as to exactly what day it will start and what time it will be on!!!???:confused: :lol:

But really I don't have to really be THAT worried yet!! As long as I am very clear on the schedule starting at Season 5!!! :) ;) :D :heart:

I'm still kind of confused as to exactly what day it will start and what time it will be on!!!???:confused: :lol:

But really I don't have to really be THAT worried yet!! As long as I am very clear on the schedule starting at Season 5!!! :) ;) :D :heart:

I think it officially starts Monday- 9AM it starts from the very first ep.
Today is just a marathon to introduce it.

End credits are shrunk B&W overlay "lower third" over final scene of the episode. Not clear like overlay like on TV LAND

A couple of "new" Commercial breaks (i.e.: Non CBS Transitions)

"Tight Edits" between "new" commercial breaks

Ill have running times after today is recorded.

I think it officially starts Monday- 9AM it starts from the very first ep.
Today is just a marathon to introduce it.

But we are on PT. R U sure about what times it will be on for us? I'm working today!Hope it will still be on after 3:30!!,;)

But we are on PT. R U sure about what times it will be on for us? I'm working today!Hope it will still be on after 3:30!!,;)

This is the time it shows on Dish Network's channel guide.

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Love Love Love the episodes

A Question though.....

Bob or Cliff?

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Bearded Max in a burgundy sweater !!!:) :heart: :eyes: :love:


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Since there were no closing theme music credits....

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Love Love Love the episodes

A Question though.....

Bob or Cliff?

Ummm, for what...??? :wave:

Ummm, for what...??? :wave:

The better bf for Barbara? That was one of the episodes on today.

The better bf for Barbara? That was one of the episodes on today.

Depends if you're into the "bad boy" or the "good boy". Which ep did they show?

The better bf for Barbara? That was one of the episodes on today.


Yeah!!! I loved that ep. too!!! ;)

Cliff was hotter, but Bob was cute too!;) But Bob was more of a buddy to Barbara than a romantic interest! But on the other hand, she would have to worry about Cliff maybe being not as dependable , maybe cheating with other girls!:( Bob would be a very faithful, steady guy a girl could be secure with! :)

As a young girl I'd totally say Cliff, :happyface but as an older woman ,Bob would really be a better bet!!!;)

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Yeah!!! I loved that ep. too!!! ;)

Cliff was hotter, but Bob was cute too!;) But Bob was more of a buddy to Barbara than a romantic interest! But on the other hand, she would have to worry about Cliff maybe being not as dependable , maybe cheating with other girls!:( Bob would be a very faithful, steady guy a girl could be secure with! :)

As a young girl I'd totally say Cliff, :happyface but as an older woman ,Bob would really be a better bet!!!;)

Cliff was good until he got Sally pregos. Thennn it's really no wonder he was written off. Valerie wasn't probably thrilled either with the writers on that one. Cliff was way too horny for Barbara and couldn't keep it to himself either. I could be wrong, but was he dating Barbara at the time? :confused:

https://youtu.be/uc9mJYvBiiY

Long commercial break and end credits for ODAAT from 1980

Once again, from the clip show 'Retrospective'. ( I didn't watch the video, you can just tell from all the guest star names :wave: )

I could be wrong, but was he dating Barbara at the time? :confused:

In the show or in real life? Either way, yes to both.

Cliff was good until he got Sally pregos. Thennn it's really no wonder he was written off. Valerie wasn't probably thrilled either with the writers on that one. Cliff was way too horny for Barbara and couldn't keep it to himself either. I could be wrong, but was he dating Barbara at the time? :confused:

Yeah he was dating Barbara at the time! :( That was a really intense , good ep.!!;)

Cliff was good until he got Sally pregos. Thennn it's really no wonder he was written off. Valerie wasn't probably thrilled either with the writers on that one. Cliff was way too horny for Barbara and couldn't keep it to himself either.

Cliffs final appearance, although he is at the other end of a phone call when Barbara's nose is broken.

Yeah he was dating Barbara at the time! :( That was a really intense , good ep.!!;)

I'm honestly surprised she didn't dump him because of what he did to her. It was an okay ep.

Cliff was good until he got Sally pregos. Thennn it's really no wonder he was written off. Valerie wasn't probably thrilled either with the writers on that one. Cliff was way too horny for Barbara and couldn't keep it to himself either. I could be wrong, but was he dating Barbara at the time? :confused:

Cliff was a "stock" character (The "Cool Tough Guy") and is it any wonder he was written off (Contractually?) after his 6 appearances? (Was he signed for 6 over the two seasons?) At least he went out with a strong episode so it does make you wonder if they knew he wasn't coming back and this was not just an after thought. In the end, the character had value.

Cliff was a "stock" character and is it any wonder he was written off (Contractually?) after his 6 appearances? (Was he signed for 6 over the two seasons?) At least he went out with a strong episode so it does make you wonder if they knew he wasn't coming back and this was not just an after thought. In the end, the character had value.

We (and by we I mean me) think he never came back because they broke up when Valerie cheated on Scott.

We (and by we I mean me) think he never came back because they broke up when Valerie cheated on Scott.

6 episodes sounds like a contract number to me, regardless of any personal relations the two may have had and it was just convince he wasn't contractually bound for future guest spots.

Our little Valerie cheated on her boyfriend? Next thing you know, she'll marry a rock star...

We (and by we I mean me) think he never came back because they broke up when Valerie cheated on Scott.


Oh wow!! She did???? :eek: Didn't she lose her virginity to Scott??;)

Scott Colomby the actor who played Cliff in case everybody doesn't know, and they did indeed date in real life as Opus said !!! ;) :wave:

6 episodes sounds like a contract number to me, regardless of any personal relations the two may have had and it was just convince he wasn't contractually bound for future guest spots.

Our little Valerie cheated on her boyfriend? Next thing you know, she'll marry a rock star...


Yeah right? :D And they say Mac was the bad girl!!!! :crazy: :happyface :lol: :D :wave:

"One Day at a Time: Ann's Friend" clocked in at 20:30 with no "non-original" commercial breaks added (You can tell those. no laughter in and/or out of the commercials.

6 episodes sounds like a contract number to me, regardless of any personal relations the two may have had and it was just convince he wasn't contractually bound for future guest spots.

Our little Valerie cheated on her boyfriend? Next thing you know, she'll marry a rock star...


I agree with you and me. He may have originally signed for 6, but would have been extended if real life hadn't gotten in the way.

And sweet Val would never hook up with some long haired rocker....

My Goodness, this board is becoming like a 70's Supermarket Tabloid.

"TV's Sweet Teen-Starlet cheats on co-star boyfriend and gets him fired from TV's Top 20 Show!

Val was 17-18 at the time, you know how girls are at that age. There's more to the story 41 years later than anyone will ever know and what Val did was for her own reasons we should respect, even if we don't agree and it shatters our image of her "Character" because of how the "Actress" Behaved in her PERSONAL life.

Val was still a teenager and sadly even nice girls cheat on their boyfriends.

Oh wow!! She did???? :eek: Didn't she lose her virginity to Scott??;)


Well, that's what she says happened (on a movie set. Lord, I hope the C.H.O.M.P.S dog wasn't involved). But no, Scott wasn't her first time.

My Goodness, this board is becoming like a 70's Supermarket Tabloid.

"TV's Sweet Teen-Starlet cheats on co-star boyfriend and gets him fired from TV's Top 20 Show!

Val was 17-18 at the time, you know how girls are at that age. There's more to the story 41 years later than anyone will ever know and what Val did was for her own reasons we should respect, even if we don't agree and it shatters our image of her "Character" because of how the "Actress" Behaved in her PERSONAL life.

Val was still a teenager and sadly even nice girls cheat on their boyfriends.

Plus remember, she's the one writing about the events. We're just repeating them.

Well, that's what she says happened (on a movie set. Lord, I hope the C.H.O.M.P.S dog wasn't involved). But no, Scott wasn't her first time.

She put all this in her first book?

My goodness, my image is shattered of Valerie...

Plus remember, she's the one writing about the events. We're just repeating them.

...and she claimed she was open and honest about what she wrote about in her books. (I can only imagine what didn't get into her books!)

Boy, the 1970's were something.

Retro, if you're on the East Coast, put on ABC. Valerie's on Match Game in 5 minutes.

Scott was much older than Valerie though. She was more suited in dating John Putch who played Bob, who is Jean Stapleton's son. They were both the same age.

Scott was much older than Valerie though. She was more suited in dating John Putch who played Bob, who is Jean Stapleton's son. They were both the same age.

I wonder who John Putch dated in real life?? He started out kind of nerdy when he was young in early ODAAT eps. but than when he came back in later eps. with his finace Claudia (that apparently he didn't end up marrying) and his wife Molly he was HOT!!! ;) :eyes:

Retro, if you're on the East Coast, put on ABC. Valerie's on Match Game in 5 minutes.

It'll be posted on ABC.com (and elsewhere) tomorrow

It'll be posted on ABC.com (and elsewhere) tomorrow

The benefits of modern technology. Remember the pre-recording, pre-internet days when if someone wanted to watch something they had to actually be in front of a TV at that time?

I agree with you and me. He may have originally signed for 6, but would have been extended if real life hadn't gotten in the way.

But interesting the quality and depth of the episode that was his last appearance. Not just a fluff piece.

The benefits of modern technology. Remember the pre-recording, pre-internet days when if someone wanted to watch something they had to actually be in front of a TV at that time?

TV Sets with knobs and rabbit ears...

I wonder who John Putch dated in real life?? He started out kind of nerdy when he was young in early ODAAT eps. but than when he came back in later eps. with his finace Claudia (that apparently he didn't end up marrying) and his wife Molly he was HOT!!! ;) :eyes:

Have no clue. Did he even get married? I thought he was cute in the episode shown today. Was his first appearance in the fourth season? I am glad season 1 only has 15 episodes so that Logo can zap through them to season 2.

TV Sets with knobs and rabbit ears...

Valerie had a post on her Facebook page about doing MATCH GAME, so just for fun I linked that YouTube segment from her (Brief) Storybook Squares episode from 1977 (Yeh, I know they don't call on her, but she does appear) - hope she has a sense of humor 39 1/2 years later...

Perhaps I should have given her one of my recipes (with release form) instead? :)

Have no clue. Did he even get married? I thought he was cute in the episode shown today. Was his first appearance in the fourth season? I am glad season 1 only has 15 episodes so that Logo can zap through them to season 2.


Yes, he was on before Season 4! ;) I just read JP's IMDB and like my Michael ,along with acting he also made a very good career for himself as a director!!!;) :)

IDK about John Putch, I assume he is or has been married in real life. But as Bob, yes in a Season 8 ep. Bob takes a wife in "Buyers remorse " a REALLY FUNNY ep., one of my favorites! And Max WASN'T EVEN in this ep. and I STILL say it's one of my favs. So that means it was really good and funny! ;) :D :wave:

I wonder who John Putch dated in real life?? He started out kind of nerdy when he was young in early ODAAT eps. but than when he came back in later eps. with his finace Claudia (that apparently he didn't end up marrying) and his wife Molly he was HOT!!! ;) :eyes:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0680091/?ref_=nmbio_sp_1

Shouldn't we move this discussion back over to the "Enjoy The View Keep Doing What You Do Somehow We'll Muddle Through- ODAAT fan forum"

and then pick up with Logo stuff this week.

Yes, he was on before Season 4! ;)

Oh that's good because I couldn't remember when he first debut on ODAAT.

Shouldn't we move this discussion back over to the "Enjoy The View Keep Doing What You Do Somehow We'll Muddle Through- ODAAT fan forum"

and then pick up with Logo stuff this week.


No!!! We don't really follow any set rules here !:crazy: We kind of just post what we feel , wherever , whenever we want as long as it is regarding ODAAT or former casts of ODAAT and sometimes not even that!:crazy: :D

In other words . No set rules! ;) We just post and have fun and KIND of try to stay on topic :D :crazy: , but mainly just as long as there is no fighting and friction! ;) :wave:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0680091/?ref_=nmbio_sp_1

I refuse to believe he actually married someone named Julie (Cooper)/(Mackenzie) Phillips. You made that up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqbicuQG8sk&list=PL22EWFDRIYfan-vHN-GLH-M04_-cgPPAo&index=29

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Oh that's good because I couldn't remember when he first debut on ODAAT.

Season 2 , Ep 5 'Barbara's Emergeance', to be specific.

Season 2 , Ep 5 'Barbara's Emergeance', to be specific.

Thanks!:D

Season 2 , Ep 5 'Barbara's Emergeance', to be specific.


Yep!!! Also Christopher Knight ( Peter Brady ) was in this ep. too!!!:) ;)
It was a very good memorable ep.!!! And AGAIN for ME to say an ep. without Max was one of the best is REALLY saying it was good.! :) :D

ALL the eps, that Bob / John Putch were in were really good and very funny ! ;) :D That's why I say he should have been a regular cast member!!!;) :wave:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqbicuQG8sk&list=PL22EWFDRIYfan-vHN-GLH-M04_-cgPPAo&index=29


HOME AGAIN , HOME AGAIN!!!! One of the BEST eps, EVER!!!!!!!!!!! :) ;)

Max in the famous pink towel scene !!!!!!!!:happyface ;) :heart: :eyes: :love:


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The Editing on LOGO is insane! "Jealousy" had the whole first minute edited!

A Skillful editor could do a better job tighting thing up. Then there's the end scene/writer-director credit with the screen shrunk to 2/3 with the remaining credits over black background rather than the standard white lettering on no background, with the screen regular size on the bottom other Norman Lear/Sony Shows use on other channels. Sometimes action in the last scene is happening! *Face-palm* Not sure if Sony or Logo is doing the editing.

Remember those minisodes Sony used to put together cutting shows down to 6 minutes a decade ago - boy do these come close :)

Only for Valerie would I put up with this. :)

...and we lose AntennaTV in the late spring when the station goes off the air so if it does come back, I don't get it. You know how it it is, a show is picked up and you say to yourself "I'll record it next cycle" then there isn't one

Logo is terrible when it comes to edits.

The Editing on LOGO is insane! "Jealousy" had the whole first minute edited!

This is where Antenna started the episode. Where did Logo come in?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FemnlzAWp7E


Only for Valerie would I put up with this. :)


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This is where Antenna started the episode. Where did Logo come in?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FemnlzAWp7E




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I put up with it for Beer Belly!!!!:D :crazy: :wave:

I put up with it for Beer Belly!!!!:D :crazy: :wave:

:) :D :wave:

This is where Antenna started the episode. Where did Logo come in?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FemnlzAWp7E




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Actually Logo showed a bit more. Barbara is talking to her friend/bf and then they start playing before Schneider walks in.

Actually Logo showed a bit more. Barbara is talking to her friend/bf and then they start playing before Schneider walks in.

I wonder what they take out later that Antenna probably leaves in?

I wish Laff would pick up this show.

I wish Laff would pick up this show.

Well, that tells me Laff doesn't crunch credits.....

How are they on edits?

I was actually referring to the first season episode (#3) called Jealousy(12/30/1975) The one where The girls become friend's with Ed's model girlfriend (Who ironically isn't the girl he marries)

50 minute seconds from the top after credits
45 Seconds original end credits

Accounts for 1 Minute,35 seconds

I'd have to do a better comparison to get a clock-down of the remaining time, but I'm starting to suspect time-compression.

@ Retro : I'm watching Roseanne right now on LOGO! They are showing that ep, with Schneider that you posted about the other day!:) He was just on! It was really cool!;) He looked good!!;)

The Editing can drive one insane when they have worked as a professional editor.

They took the easy way out - beginning and ends of scenes - it is the sloppy way of doing it. This gives you A LOT of non-CBS Fade ins and fade outs. The proper way is tighting scenes - removing the odd line or reaction, or if needed pull a scene that is referenced in the next one.

Here's an example - Scene A Character is only in a scene briefly with no dialog important to the plot then leaves to go to the library This is removed, so you come up with your fade in starts with scene b without the character with the first plot elements kept and then onto scene c where the character returns from the library kept intact - so you get an edit without hurting the plot. THAT is how you do it - you remove some of the non main plot elements.

i'm still not 100% sure they haven't taken time compression to these as well

Season 1 ended today
Season 2 (6 episodes) begins Thursday
Season 2 (5 episodes) Continues Friday
Season 4 (6 episodes) continues Saturday

Season 1 ended today
Season 2 (6 episodes) begins Thursday
Season 2 (5 episodes) Continues Friday
Season 4 (6 episodes) continues Saturday

Can't wait to see Season 2 tomorrow and more of season 4 on Saturday!

Well, that tells me Laff doesn't crunch credits.....

How are they on edits?

Not too bad. They don't crunch credits and play them intact on tv shows which is what I like although sometimes they speed them up on movies. As far as editing, I don't think they make any extra edits. Just the syndicated versions they get from the distributor. I don't really know how most of these shows originally aired since most were before my time or when I was a small child. I mainly just watch Laff for Empty Nest and occasionally Roseanne. I also watch movies once in a while if they have something I like.

Maybe there's a chance Encore Classic will do a sitcom block and show "One Day at a Time"! Or better yet, we'll see a DVD release.

Imad

Looks like Saturday's block has been moved to Sundays with an extra episode.

Hope they do a second cycle of episodes - my DVD recorder messed up on me and lost all of Fridays show! :(

Maybe I should dig out my old VHS recorder...

Looks like Saturday's block has been moved to Sundays with an extra episode.


Cool! Because on Saturday I would have had to miss the whole thing! On Sunday , I can watch some!;) :wave:

I recorded 'The Maestro' today solely to see if they left in the opening scene with Ann, Julie and Barbara that's usually cut out in syndication. They didn't show it all, but they had some of it, which was pretty cool.

I recorded 'The Maestro' today solely to see if they left in the opening scene with Ann, Julie and Barbara that's usually cut out in syndication. They didn't show it all, but they had some of it, which was pretty cool.

Oh NO!!! Was that on today? I missed it,:( and I LOVED that ep. The Maestro was HOT!!! :happyface I watched The upholstery ripoff and Grandpa visiting ep. today!!!

Oh, and also Schneider's nephew!;)

There goes another opportunity for me to watch reruns of the original One Day at a Time. My family subscribes to Dish Network, and Logo TV is listed as Channel 254 on Dish, but it is actually not shown as an available channel. Guess I'm out of luck now. :(

They are skipping episodes..

"The New Car" did not air, "Ann's Out-of-Town Client",
'Bob Loves Barbara", "The Second Mrs. Cooper",
"The Ghost Writer" are being skipped on 4/13/2007 where they
should be airing.

Oh, and also Schneider's nephew!;)

You mean Mark Hammill? That was a good one!:wave:

This show is supposedly coming back to Antenna in the fall, so that's good.

Some thoughts, from what I've seen:

-They seem to start the episodes earlier then Antenna, and have different cuts, so it's fun to see "new" scenes, but then I spend the rest of the time trying to figure out what was taken out that Antenna left in

-It's cool to see the show have legitimate commercials. On Antenna the show felt like filler between caged, chained up dogs and kids with cancer.

-The commercial breaks may be tedious, but I've never live-watched it, so I just zip past them.

-The pop-up ads are annoying.

-I've never seen so much of RuPaul. At this point he may as well be the third Cooper sister

-And as RetroTNK said, I guess they're skipping episodes

You mean Mark Hammill? That was a good one!:wave:

This show is supposedly coming back to Antenna in the fall, so that's good.


Yeah that was a good ep!;) The nephew who was the apple of Schneider's eye who turned out to be not so nice of a kid!:confused: He was stealing stuff from the tenants !!!:eek: :(

Some thoughts, from what I've seen:

-They seem to start the episodes earlier then Antenna, and have different cuts, so it's fun to see "new" scenes, but then I spend the rest of the time trying to figure out what was taken out that Antenna left in

-It's cool to see the show have legitimate commercials. On Antenna the show felt like filler between caged, chained up dogs and kids with cancer.

-The commercial breaks may be tedious, but I've never live-watched it, so I just zip past them.

-The pop-up ads are annoying.

-I've never seen so much of RuPaul. At this point he may as well be the third Cooper sister

-And as RetroTNK said, I guess they're skipping episodes


After Julie left Fred at the alter maybe he could have married RuPaul!!!:lol: :D :wave:

I did find out they are not blacked out on the logo website so the episodes are streaming!

I am loving the episodes that I haven't seen in many years.:D

They are skipping episodes..

"The New Car" did not air, "Ann's Out-of-Town Client",
'Bob Loves Barbara", "The Second Mrs. Cooper",
"The Ghost Writer" are being skipped on 4/13/2007 where they
should be airing.

I wonder why they are doing it?

Some thoughts, from what I've seen:





-I've never seen so much of RuPaul. At this point he may as well be the third Cooper sister

Hahahahahahahahahaha........and his show is now on VH1.

Logo is known for airing certain episodes of a series over and over and never the entire series in order. I don't have Logo in my satellite package anymore but it doesn't bother me because it's a crap station.

You're better off to buy a "homemade" set from I offer.com. That's a really good quality set but it's a little pricy...but well worth the money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xytNEr3O_4


The best episodes have Max in them!!! ;) Here he is with Julie singing "Love and marriage"! Lucky girl, getting to have his baby!!!!!:) :heart:

Logo is known for airing certain episodes of a series over and over and never the entire series in order. I don't have Logo in my satellite package anymore but it doesn't bother me because it's a crap station.

You're better off to buy a "homemade" set from I offer.com. That's a really good quality set but it's a little pricy...but well worth the money.

Well, I'm going to see what Logo (and if AntennaTV finds a new affiliate in Boston and the show is set to return in the fall) does runs wise - I mean they have only skipped 5 or so. (Mind you one was a good episode with poor lovable Bob in it!)

I noticed a weird scheduling quirk coming up on Monday

1pm- Julie's Big Move, part 1
1:30pm- Ann, the Father
2pm- Julie's Big Move, part 2

Anybody know what was missing in the episode where Snider's son shows up? I loved the episode!

I found the end credits....they show a John that never appeared...

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Thanks Opus!:wave:

Thanks Opus!:wave:

Damn, accidentally deleted the post, but here it is again. It was this guy, who was in a few episodes.

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Logo is known for airing certain episodes of a series over and over and never the entire series in order. I don't have Logo in my satellite package anymore but it doesn't bother me because it's a crap station.

You're better off to buy a "homemade" set from I offer.com. That's a really good quality set but it's a little pricy...but well worth the money.

I don't like Logo or Antenna. I definitely plan to buy the homemade set at some point. By the way do you have the homemade set, and if you do, what stations were the episodes recorded from?

Damn, accidentally deleted the post, but here it is again. It was this guy, who was in a few episodes.

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I like that guy!!!:) ;)


Also I noticed today in Barbara's friend. The scene in the burger shop, they cut out part of the scene with the giraffe figurine! They cut out the part where Melanie said she saw Barbara admiring it in the gift shop! ;)

I noticed a weird scheduling quirk coming up on Monday

1pm- Julie's Big Move, part 1
1:30pm- Ann, the Father
2pm- Julie's Big Move, part 2

On the logo website?

There are some Max eps. not this Sunday but next Sunday the 23rd!!!:) ;) :heart:

There are some Max eps. not this Sunday but next Sunday the 23rd!!!:) ;) :heart:

Season 5 starts that weekend.

On the logo website?

Their program guide.

Season 5 starts that weekend.


They aren't playing "Julie's wedding" which introduces Max, or" Home Again , home again "(the famous Max in a pink towel ep):happyface DARN!! But some other Season 5 Max eps.:heart: including "Male Jealousy" which is a really great ep. Really funny banter between Max and Schneider!! :) :D

I think on the weekends they show later season shows than they show on weekdays ! I noticed that last Sunday! ;)

On the logo website?

I first noticed it on my onscreen guide. Putting an episode between part 1 and part 2 jumped out at me. But you can also see it on their schedule

http://www.logotv.com/tv-schedule

I think on the weekends they show later season shows than they show on weekdays ! I noticed that last Sunday! ;)

I think Antenna did that for awhile too, where weekdays and weekends didn't match up.

I wonder if some of this jumping around will settle out on a second or 3rd cycle...

I think Antenna did that for awhile too, where weekdays and weekends didn't match up.

You are ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY 100 percent correct!!!! ;) :wave:

As I've suggested in an earlier post, I wonder if the fact that logo is 100% Streaming video on their website - with no blackouts - might be a factor in episodes being pulled,or at minimum pending clearances to be cycled in.

This would mean every episode would need to be cleared individually, and not as one group as with broadcast or cable.

It's as good of a theory as any.

I first noticed it on my onscreen guide. Putting an episode between part 1 and part 2 jumped out at me. But you can also see it on their schedule

http://www.logotv.com/tv-schedule


*face-palm*

To Quote Captain Kirk from Star Trek V: "Does Anything Work Around Here"?

It sounds like a nightmare watching this show on Logo with all the cuts, etc. I am so grateful I have the uncut airings from Comedy Gold.

Is it just me or when the theme song is playing LOGO seems to speed it up or something!!!:confused: Like the song sounds like it's faster than when it was originally on CBS and when it was on Antenna!!!:crazy:

Is it just me or when the theme song is playing LOGO seems to speed it up or something!!!:confused: Like the song sounds like it's faster than when it was originally on CBS and when it was on Antenna!!!:crazy:

Time-compression to save a few seconds. :) The skill they edit and time-compress impresses the heck out of me.

It's not big things, but little things - lines of dialog, tightened up segments.

Like in "Barbara's Friend", the dialog about The Glass Giraffe was tightened up and if you didn't know the uncut versions (or less cut version) you wouldn't know it was missing.

It's about being a surgeon, not a butcher

Has anyone noticed that banner that runs across the top of the screen advertising Rupaul during One Day at a Time? We have it my area and it's so distracting. Wish they would run it across the bottom of the screen, if they have to run it at all.

Has anyone noticed that banner that runs across the top of the screen advertising Rupaul during One Day at a Time? We have it my area and it's so distracting. Wish they would run it across the bottom of the screen, if they have to run it at all.

They run it at the top so there is room for spot promos on the lower part of the screen if you noticed.

Has anyone noticed that banner that runs across the top of the screen advertising Rupaul during One Day at a Time? We have it my area and it's so distracting. Wish they would run it across the bottom of the screen, if they have to run it at all.

They must run that banner on every show. I am watching Alice right now and here it is!!!:rolleyes: Yes, it's very annoying!!!!:(

*face-palm*

To Quote Captain Kirk from Star Trek V: "Does Anything Work Around Here"?

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This is why all the ads and pop-ups for RuPal and the move of (New) episodes to VH1

http://deadline.com/2017/03/rupauls-drag-race-moves-logo-vh1-viacom-series-shift-1202032976/

This is why all the ads and pop-ups for RuPal and the move of (New) episodes to VH1

http://deadline.com/2017/03/rupauls-drag-race-moves-logo-vh1-viacom-series-shift-1202032976/

Last night 4/14 at 8pm they put up a title card and music directing viewers to watch RuPal on VH1 - for the complete length of the broadcast - They sacrificed ad time (20 minutes) on Logo for higher ad rates on VH1.

Viacom is so messed up! Is there any wonder CBS,inc (which is the whole company - broadcast,network,production,library,Showtime except Radio) doesn't want to reemerge with them!

Bad enough there's more skipped episodes of ODAAT coming up - I emailed them this week about it and haven't heard a reply. You know the channel is streaming on the logo.com website 100% - no blackouts (except some ads are replaced with on-line ads or promos) Just log on, go to WatchLiveTV link at the top of the page, and enter your provider.

So, as I've suggested before,and until otherwise, perhaps some episodes of all the series they are running are not cleared for streaming. Who knows which unions - WGA,DGA,SAG/AFTRA might be involved. Got to be a union issue since it's affecting shows from several studios and syndicators.

Anyone has a better theory? I mean since the 1950's stations and Cablecasters have runs syndicated (off-net) shows from the first to the last
Why in goodness name is logo bucking the trend?

Logo bastardizes every classic show they air. How can anyone watch Logo unless they are the key demographic? All of the advertisements running during shows and horrible edits are the reason I do not watch this channel. I would much rather them run several thousands of commercials than advertise while a show is on, especially if it takes over the screen.

I have bought several DVD sets due to Logo's ruining of classic television. Every time they mention the addition of another classic show, I cringe because I know that it will be butchered beyond recognition.

I have the complete series of ODAAT from Comedy Gold and Antenna TV airings, so I have no need to waste my time watching the garbage that Logo presents as One Day at a Time.

Logo bastardizes every classic show they air. How can anyone watch Logo unless they are the key demographic? All of the advertisements running during shows and horrible edits are the reason I do not watch this channel. I would much rather them run several thousands of commercials than advertise while a show is on, especially if it takes over the screen.

I have bought several DVD sets due to Logo's ruining of classic television. Every time they mention the addition of another classic show, I cringe because I know that it will be butchered beyond recognition.

I have the complete series of ODAAT from Comedy Gold and Antenna TV airings, so I have no need to waste my time watching the garbage that Logo presents as One Day at a Time.

But it's the only version currently available on TV. Think of it as we're starving, but the only thing open is Taco Bell.

But it's the only version currently on TV. Think of it as we're starving, but the only thing open is Taco Bell.

Better than Taco Time.

But it's the only version currently available on TV. Think of it as we're starving, but the only thing open is Taco Bell.

Don't forget, the show had a gap of 16 years between domestic TV airings (E! and AntennaTV!) and we're lucky Logo is running it this close to Antenna who only has one or two runs left and not even complete runs due to the marathons - plus they are losing affiliates (including Boston!) due to stations settling their spectrum bandwidth back to the FCC for wireless broadband use. (They've pulled my postings on their page when I push the issue regarding a new affiliate) We can't be sure it will be back on AntennaTV in the fall regardless of what they say,or how they might run it.

Logo might be the last "New" station to air the show ever. We might be seeing the end of ONE DAY AT A TIME (Which I'm surprised didn't go into moratorium with the new series in production - the one SMART thing Sony has done!) - No official DVDs due to whatever scuttlebutt of the week (Sales,Music Clearance,backlog at Shout!/Sony) I will never understand how one of Norman Lear's most successful shows gets so mistreated. It lasted longer than "Maude" and "Good Times" and did better in the ratings as well.

Some of us for various reasons have no choice but LogoTV and can't get the "Homemade Sets" (Let's call them what they really are, "Canadian Bootlegs")

(Yes, I watched the show on AntennaTV but when I was ready to record, they took it off, and when/if it comes back, they won't be on in Boston Anymore - that's the thing, an old school tv collector like me was used to the old "It'll be on for a few years" and turns out it wasn't)

Who knows, maybe by the time Val and Mac start to get Social Security the show will come out on DVD!

Yeah it is a tragedy that One Day At A Time hasn't gotten a complete series release. Shout Factory was my last hope of seasons being released.

Yeah it is a tragedy that One Day At A Time hasn't gotten a complete series release. Shout Factory was my last hope of seasons being released.

Every excuse in the book has been used - sales of season one (which wasn't a strong season but a good start), clearance of music in a handful of episodes (I can think of 5 off the top of my head), Not enough interest, the masters need work (er, Logo went back to the 25 minute masters and made new edits - the shows look fine), etc,etc,etc.

This show is Norman Lear's 3rd biggest hit (After "All in The Family" and "The Jeffersons") and has been mishandled by Sony big time. You'd think they'd at-least put it up on Crackle.

Let's hope Logo has more than a couple of runs in on the series - and considering how they are running it (Most Season 4-5 episodes have had, or will have two runs so far by Wednesday Afternoon) it might be the case.

Norman is still alive (92!), but he doesn't own an interest in the shows anymore (He sold Embassy outright) so not much he can do.

Every time I see the show on Logo I have an irresistible urge to go to Fire Island, which is around an hour and a half from here.

Every time I see the show on Logo I have an irresistible urge to go to Fire Island, which is around an hour and a half from here.

Well, they moved RuPaul over to VH1

Every time I see the show on Logo I have an irresistible urge to go to Fire Island, which is around an hour and a half from here.


HUH???:eek: :eek: :eek: That place with no uh ladies???:crazy:

You won't find a "Bertinelli" there , lots of "Bert & Ernie's" though!!!:lol: :D :wave:

Ever wonder about the "origin" of the series, the back story leading into the first episode...

What led to Ann and Ed's breakup - the actually event that was the boiling point.

The first time Ann Meets David at the Law office (Mentioned)

When the girls were told about the divorce and later the move, and their reaction.

When David suggests Ann moves into his building when she says shes moving her and the girls into the city. (It's implied he lives in the same building, there's an episode where Ann calls David and asks him to "come right down" and a minute later, he's there - so he lives on the 5th Floor?)

The first time Ann (and the girls) meet Schneider (Which we know he keeps a picture of in his wallet)

(Let's just ignore the inconsistencies in the pilot like Schneider being married and accept he was always as he was presented in the series after the pilot)

Did I forget anything?

When David suggests Ann moves into his building when she says shes moving her and the girls into the city. (It's implied he lives in the same building, there's an episode where Ann calls David and asks him to "come right down" and a minute later, he's there - so he lives on the 5th Floor?)

In 'David Plus Two' we go in his apt. He's 503
https://youtu.be/-9exfOgFVO0


Did I forget anything?

Yes. Why is Cynthia Oogletree such a b*tch? (Bonnie will get that).

HUH???:eek: :eek: :eek: That place with no uh ladies???:crazy:

You won't find a "Bertinelli" there , lots of "Bert & Ernie's" though!!!:lol: :D :wave:

Still looks like more fun than those AntennaTV commercials :wave:

In 'David Plus Two' we go in his apt. He's 503
https://youtu.be/-9exfOgFVO0 .

Forgot the Apt. Number :) - problem with the show is it was never exact in how many there were. Had to be a decent number (of various sizes) to need an in-house Super.

But we also know (at least in the early seasons) there was a parking garage either under or next to the building. We've had references to "Down in The Garage" but Schneider also makes reference to his Camper being next to the building so it must not have made the entrance clearance for the Garage - even the Super must have a space or two for himself.

Is One Day at a Time still on LOGO? I couldn't find it last week, did they move it to another time slot?

Is One Day at a Time still on LOGO? I couldn't find it last week, did they move it to another time slot?


Yeah, they still are showing it!!;) This last Thurs. and Fri.it wasn't on at all though!!;)

I wish FamilyNet or Laff could get One Day at a Time. I'll probably just have to settle for a homemade set recorded from Comedy Gold in Canada. Logo is a disgrace to classic TV. I will never look at that channel.

Yeah, they still are showing it!!;) This last Thurs. and Fri.it wasn't on at all though!!;)

Looks like some days most or all the sitcoms are not on for movies and RuPaul reruns, but usually only a day or two a week,and sometimes not at all.

Week of the 1st is all sitcoms. The usual 5-6 episodes of ODAAT/ALICE a day.

They've just about passed the half-way point of a first run on ODAAT along with a block of second-run cycle.

Yeah, they still are showing it!!;) This last Thurs. and Fri.it wasn't on at all though!!;)

Thanks for the info, when I set it to record, I ended up with some movie last week.

Cross-posting so no one misses this weeks (May 1st) info

This weeks Episodes (Skipped episodes noted, expect to run in separate block someplace,sometime as usual but who knows when - two were due to air in the block pulled this weekend for movies) A handful are second airings on Logo.

Monday, May 1 (5:15-16 skipped)
S5 Ep11Male Jealousy
1439LOGO 12:00 - 12:30p
S5 Ep12Happy New Year II
1439LOGO 12:30 - 1:00p
S5 Ep13Schneider the Model
1439LOGO 1:00 - 1:30p
S5 Ep14Triple Play
1439LOGO 1:30 - 2:00p
S5 Ep17Endless Elliot
1439LOGO 2:00 - 2:30p

Tuesday, May 2
S5 Ep18Retrospective
1439LOGO 11:30 - 12:00p
S5 Ep19Retrospective
1439LOGO 12:00 - 12:32p
S5 Ep20Girl With a Past
1439LOGO 12:32 - 1:04p
S5 Ep21The Perils of Plastic
1439LOGO 1:04 - 1:37p
S5 Ep22No Laughing Matter
1439LOGO 1:37 - 2:10p

Wednesday, May 3 (5:23-24 Skipped)
S5 Ep25Pen Pals
1439LOGO 11:30 - 12:00p
S5 Ep26The Spirit Is Willing
1439LOGO 12:00 - 12:32p
S6 Ep1Teacher's Pet
1439LOGO 12:32 - 1:04p
S6 Ep2The Amarillo Connection
1439LOGO 1:04 - 1:37p
S6 Ep3Ann Meets Nick
1439LOGO 1:37 - 2:10p

Thursday, May 4 (6:5-6 Skipped)
S6 Ep4Ann Meets Nick
1439LOGO 12:00 - 12:30p
S6 Ep7The Drop Out
1439LOGO 12:30 - 1:00p
S6 Ep8A Shot in the Dark
1439LOGO 1:00 - 1:30p
S6 Ep9Sunday Father
1439LOGO 1:30 - 2:00p
S6 Ep10A November Song
1439LOGO 2:00 - 2:30p

Friday, May 5 (6:12 & 16- Skipped)
S6 Ep11A November Song
1439LOGO 11:30 - 12:00p
S6 Ep13I Do, I Do
1439LOGO 12:00 - 12:32p
S6 Ep15A Tiny Romance
1439LOGO 12:32 - 1:04p
S6 Ep14Out of Bounds
1439LOGO 1:04 - 1:37p
S6 Ep17Alex's Project
1439LOGO 1:37 - 2:10p

^ Thanks for the schedule.

^ Thanks for the schedule.

You're welcome
Next weeks and any changes posted when available.

Cross-Posting---

Tentative advance listings for next week show the show looping around after Season 7 back to Season 1 on may 10th in the morning after airing the rest of season 7 overnight - with the usual skipped episodes! Wed-Fri is Season 1 complete. Perfect Fit, and some of those are due to air on Sunday May 7th!

What is listed now shows some major skipping around for Season 7 for some reason. (13 episodes skipped - more than the average of 6) Clearly they are holding back episodes for the outside slots or next cycle as we've seen in the past. Why they program like this it's beyond me.

Not the first time they did something like this - they did the same thing to Alice - Ran to a point, looped back and then continued where they left off.

So we've got weeks of second,and in some cases 3rd runs. They are showing additional airings as well, such as May 13 3:30am-6:00am But as always, everything is tentative.

I prepare the weekly log on Sunday to account for any changes that may occur, including episodes skipped,added runs,pulled runs,etc.

I wonder if they are still editing seasons 8 & 9.

Logo bastardizes every classic show they air. How can anyone watch Logo unless they are the key demographic? All of the advertisements running during shows and horrible edits are the reason I do not watch this channel. I would much rather them run several thousands of commercials than advertise while a show is on, especially if it takes over the screen.

I have bought several DVD sets due to Logo's ruining of classic television. Every time they mention the addition of another classic show, I cringe because I know that it will be butchered beyond recognition.

I have the complete series of ODAAT from Comedy Gold and Antenna TV airings, so I have no need to waste my time watching the garbage that Logo presents as One Day at a Time.

YESSSS!!! Exactly! I don't know how people can support Logo -- hackjob edits. TOO many edits that have no thought put into them WHATSOEVER -- 18 minute episodes -- yeah, go watch butchered episodes of ODAAT. I still have faith Shout Factory will put this out unedited and remastered unlike Logo, who edits themselves and turns up the brightness and DOESN'T remaster it. Yeah. Hopefully Shout will eventually cave in and release it -- maybe after they finish Diff'rent Strokes. One can hope. Logo is pure and utter trash for hacking ODAAT.

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Tentative advance listings for next week show the show looping around after Season 7 back to Season 1 on may 10th in the morning after airing the rest of season 7 overnight - with the usual skipped episodes! Wed-Fri is Season 1 complete. Perfect Fit, and some of those are due to air on Sunday May 7th!

What is listed now shows some major skipping around for Season 7 for some reason. (13 episodes skipped - more than the average of 6) Clearly they are holding back episodes for the outside slots or next cycle as we've seen in the past. Why they program like this it's beyond me.

Not the first time they did something like this - they did the same thing to Alice - Ran to a point, looped back and then continued where they left off.

So we've got weeks of second,and in some cases 3rd runs. They are showing additional airings as well, such as May 13 3:30am-6:00am But as always, everything is tentative.

I prepare the weekly log on Sunday to account for any changes that may occur, including episodes skipped,added runs,pulled runs,etc.

I wonder if they are still editing seasons 8 & 9.

Doesn't take that long to thoughtlessly hack out whole scenes of classic shows and add on-screen garbage and yadda, yadda, yadda. I don't know why you treat it as if Logo's better than Antenna for running 19-minute episodes of classic shows! But you do you and I'll do me. Who knows. Maybe Viacom will replace Logo with a more trashy channel. Anything's better.

I wish FamilyNet or Laff could get One Day at a Time. I'll probably just have to settle for a homemade set recorded from Comedy Gold in Canada. Logo is a disgrace to classic TV. I will never look at that channel.

I find it hilarious that some people actually think Logo's better than the digital OTA classic channels. Logo IS a disgrace!

Doesn't take that long to thoughtlessly hack out whole scenes of classic shows and add on-screen garbage and yadda, yadda, yadda. I don't know why you treat it as if Logo's better than Antenna for running 19-minute episodes of classic shows! But you do you and I'll do me. Who knows. Maybe Viacom will replace Logo with a more trashy channel. Anything's better.


II don't find the editing to be a problem. The shows don't seem to hacked or cut to me!! And the programming is good!! That is the classic comedies they show!!

With that being said all the cr*p that we have to see with RuPaul and the advertisements for other vulgar shows is what ruins LOGO for me!!:(

II don't find the editing to be a problem. The shows don't seem to hacked or cut to me!! And the programming is good!! That is the classic comedies they show!!

With that being said all the cr*p that we have to see with RuPaul and the advertisements for other vulgar shows is what ruins LOGO for me!!:(

THey are hacked and we are all aware that Logo is a total hackjob look at the other threads :( I bet Fetv's better with THEIR treatment of ODAAT. If only somebody here got Fetv on their cable! Antenna is also running it on Sundays in their 23-minute "less edited" versions! I HAVE watched Alice and All in the Family on LOGO before -- Alice was 18 minutes and 45 seconds without commercials I timed it, and All in the Family about 19 minutes and 15-20 seconds! Absurd!

Editing regardless by what channel or network or syndicator has been a fact of life since the 1980's and it's only going to get worse.

How long before MeTV,AntennnaTV start hacking away for more commercial time on classic TV Shows? It's only a matter of time, no pun intended. 99% of their line up are the 1980's edits as it is. 22:30 and 45:00 before commercials. Some 1950's and early 1960's shows actually clocked in as much as 25:30 and 51:00!

COZI is mixed depending on the show (The Danny Thomas Shows were hacked down to around 21:00 minutes (Those ran as long as 26 minutes!), while others still clock in at the 22:30 and 45:00 mark - although the average on COZI is 22:00 and 44:00 for the Universal/MCA-TV shows. DECADES is mixed based on what the studios supply.

It's a simple fact the days of uncut classic TV Shows have been over for some time and it's only going to get worse till they realize they have to do what GetTV has tried - Uncut but longer slots 40 minutes for a half hour,70 minutes for an hour - sure it's less episodes but they get the same extended commercial time.

I just understand how things are. The place to speak up about editing are on the Facebook pages and viewer response emails of the channels - sure it might not do much, but at least they will hear it.

Oh, and the average time compression is 4% - anything more throws the pitch off too much.

MASH is currently on MeTV,TV LAND and WGNA and I'd bet all 3 are running different edits!

Editing regardless by what channel or network or syndicator has been a fact of life since the 1980's and it's only going to get worse.

How long before MeTV,AntennnaTV start hacking away for more commercial time on classic TV Shows? It's only a matter of time, no pun intended. 99% of their line up are the 1980's edits as it is. 22:30 and 45:00 before commercials. Some 1950's and early 1960's shows actually clocked in as much as 25:30 and 51:00!

COZI is mixed depending on the show (The Danny Thomas Shows were hacked down to around 21:00 minutes (Those ran as long as 26 minutes!), while others still clock in at the 22:30 and 45:00 mark - although the average on COZI is 22:00 and 44:00 for the Universal/MCA-TV shows. DECADES is mixed based on what the studios supply.

It's a simple fact the days of uncut classic TV Shows have been over for some time and it's only going to get worse till they realize they have to do what GetTV has tried - Uncut but longer slots 40 minutes for a half hour,70 minutes for an hour - sure it's less shows but they get the same extended commercial time.

I just understand how things are. The place to speak up about editing are on the Facebook pages and viewer response emails of the channels - sure it might not do much, but at least they will hear it.

Oh, and the average time compression is 4% - anything more throws the pitch off too much.

Actually, some of Antenna's shows like Small Wonder and Mr. Belvedere, are completely unedited except for some of Mr. Belvedere's unaired episodes. Doogie Howser, M.D. is another one I believe is unedited, along with Wings and Becker. So some of them ARE unedited, and I highly doubt any of them will start the Logo/TV Land general Viacom trash practice anytime soon. Antenna only started credit crunching so they could get more money to acquire more expensive shows -- Alice, Murphy Brown. I will agree with you on COZI, they're terrible, but they do show FRASIER unedited at the very least, with complete end credits. Some of them are just a mixed bag, BUT Me-TV DOES, in fact, edit some of their own shows like The Brady Bunch, Happy Days, The Beverly Hillbillies, Rhoda, etc. that obviously come from uncut masters that Me-TV subtly edits from DVD masters. 99% of their masters are 1980's cuts? They're not. Some are, but a vast majority are their own edits made to the show. They've gone on record saying that. We'll see when ALICE and SILVER SPOONS come to Antenna, how their edits differ from those on Logo. Antenna may have made some of their own to ALICE, but they don't hack as bad as TV Land and Logo. And Me-TV's airings of M*A*S*H are edited themselves, so they don't seem as obvious as the standard prints.

Logo is still a hackjob btw. What makes it even more sad is that they have a crapload of money and yet -- still need commercials? Why don't they just back away from the classics and let Encore Classic or whatever it's called, air them UNCUT?

Actually, some of Antenna's shows like Small Wonder and Mr. Belvedere, are completely unedited except for some of Mr. Belvedere's unaired episodes. Doogie Howser, M.D. is another one I believe is unedited, along with Wings and Becker. So some of them ARE unedited, and I highly doubt any of them will start the Logo/TV Land general Viacom trash practice anytime soon. Antenna only started credit crunching so they could get more money to acquire more expensive shows -- Alice, Murphy Brown. I will agree with you on COZI, they're terrible, but they do show FRASIER unedited at the very least, with complete end credits. Some of them are just a mixed bag, BUT Me-TV DOES, in fact, edit some of their own shows like The Brady Bunch, Happy Days, The Beverly Hillbillies, Rhoda, etc. that obviously come from uncut masters that Me-TV subtly edits from DVD masters. 99% of their masters are 1980's cuts? They're not. Some are, but a vast majority are their own edits made to the show. They've gone on record saying that. We'll see when ALICE and SILVER SPOONS come to Antenna, how their edits differ from those on Logo. Antenna may have made some of their own to ALICE, but they don't hack as bad as TV Land and Logo. And Me-TV's airings of M*A*S*H are edited themselves, so they don't seem as obvious as the standard prints.

Logo is still a hackjob btw. What makes it even more sad is that they have a crapload of money and yet -- still need commercials? Why don't they just back away from the classics and let Encore Classic or whatever it's called, air them UNCUT?

What about speeding up?

What about speeding up?

I know that Me-TV speeds MAMA'S FAMILY up, for a fact. And also when they ran it, BOSOM BUDDIES' theme song was sped up and slowed down too. That was directly taken from the DVDs. Mama's Family is not because you can tell that it has all its original music on Me-TV. ALF apparently is from the uncut masters but Me-TV makes minor edits. As for others, I don't know but I do know that shows like THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES (Seasons 1-4), THE BRADY BUNCH and some others were directly taken from the DVDs -- like how DORIS DAY and FAMILY AFFAIR are when they run those because you can obviously see the MPI logo at the end.

And also -- Me-TV's editing that they do themselves is infinitely better than Logo's because they actually care about the preservation of classic TV shows and Logo just cares about screwing people over with bad edits and 30 minutes of commercials every hour. Logo is screwing ALICE and ONE DAY AT A TIME over by hacking them down, not "tightening" them. Ok, ok, so Logo restored Barbara to "The Maestro" and restored a few measly SECONDS to "The Nearness of You". But let's actually talk about what they HAVE cut out: apparently MINUTES from "Barbara's Friend", among others.

Now let me ask this question: instead of talking about what Logo has restored, let's talk about which episodes they have completely screwed over --- such as removing every Barbara scene in one episode!

You know what LAFF needs to stop airing? Night Court.

You know what LAFF needs to stop airing? Night Court.

Why? I thought it was your favorite show?

Why? I thought it was your favorite show?

I mean, it is my favorite show and all, but they play it every day (including weekends too) and the network doesn't even bother to shuffle the episodes around, just simply choosing to air the show in order by season instead.

LAFF just airs the show way too much along with all the others. What happened to the rest like Grounded For Life and Funniest Pets And People?

Actually, some of Antenna's shows like Small Wonder and Mr. Belvedere, are completely unedited except for some of Mr. Belvedere's unaired episodes. Doogie Howser, M.D. is another one I believe is unedited, along with Wings and Becker. So some of them ARE unedited, and I highly doubt any of them will start the Logo/TV Land general Viacom trash practice anytime soon. Antenna only started credit crunching so they could get more money to acquire more expensive shows -- Alice, Murphy Brown. I will agree with you on COZI, they're terrible, but they do show FRASIER unedited at the very least, with complete end credits. Some of them are just a mixed bag, BUT Me-TV DOES, in fact, edit some of their own shows like The Brady Bunch, Happy Days, The Beverly Hillbillies, Rhoda, etc. that obviously come from uncut masters that Me-TV subtly edits from DVD masters. 99% of their masters are 1980's cuts? They're not. Some are, but a vast majority are their own edits made to the show. They've gone on record saying that. We'll see when ALICE and SILVER SPOONS come to Antenna, how their edits differ from those on Logo. Antenna may have made some of their own to ALICE, but they don't hack as bad as TV Land and Logo. And Me-TV's airings of M*A*S*H are edited themselves, so they don't seem as obvious as the standard prints.

Logo is still a hackjob btw. What makes it even more sad is that they have a crapload of money and yet -- still need commercials? Why don't they just back away from the classics and let Encore Classic or whatever it's called, air them UNCUT?

I meant to say 99% of the pre-1983 shows - my bad :)

By the mid-1980's TV show were shooting 22:30 for a half hour and 45:00 minutes for an hour so of course those shows wouldn't need editing. The Editing of shows, as well as shorter shooting lengths began around 1983/1984.

What the studios did with the older pre-1983 around 1984 was recall all the old 16mm uncut prints are replace them with high quality 35mm to 1"/Betacam/U-Matic edited prints - that is why all of a sudden the older tv shows looked better. At the same time,shows shot on VT were given a similar treatment of new edited masters.

This also explains the flood of old 16mm TV prints into the film collector's market. I remember the ads in THE BIG REEL when you could get good deals on old prints. Not to mention all the empty studio film reels and storage canisters/plastic cases you could pick up by the bagful.

MeTV isn't doing All the editing on The Brady Bunch, Happy Days, The Beverly Hillbillies, Rhoda, etc. - the studios are supplying the edited prints - MeTV might take a few extra seconds here or there, but all masters from CBS Television Syndication,20th Television,etc are being supplied in "Syndication Length" (22:30/45:00 - or even a notch shorter)

What The Studios did was make new HD syndication prints following the edits done in the 1980's when they upgraded their uncut masters to HD for DVD. But it's the studios, not the network supplying the basic edited shows they are working with.

CBS Television Syndication for instance, (which is also the TV libraries of Paramount,Desilu,Viacom and Spelling) over the last decade and a half have gone back and made HD transfers uncut from the original elements (Which are used for the DVDs and Uncut broadcast markets) - then recreated the edits from the 1980's to have syndication length HD quality masters. but nothing is "Taken from DVDs" - same original source,yes - but side-by-side.One set for DVD uncut and the other edited for syndication.

(I do believe the episodes of "The Twilight Zone" SyFy runs have been cut shorter (no surprise there) then the 1980's syndication length ones on MeTV.)

Here's an interesting read - The CBS Syndication bible - click on the "LIBRARY SERIES Section" then chose any classic series to get an idea of how they did/do things syndicationbible.cbstvd.com/

Pick a series and you'll see how they handled it. Some of the current half hour syndication printers actually were cut to 22:10! Many of the sections do list syndication length and even commercial breaks break-downs. It's a fun read.

It is most likely that Warner Brothers Television has prepared a fresh set of 22:00-22:30 length episodes of ALICE for AntennaTV. MeTV is running 77 SUNSET STRIP at around 46 minutes (Down from 49:00-51:00 as aired!) Which is the average length for an hour show from them.

(Oh, they may be using MPI's prints of FAMILY AFFAIR, but CBS Television Syndication still owns the syndication rights)

I watch Logo because there's nothing else on.

There's nothing else on in general, period.

I meant to say 99% of the pre-1983 shows - my bad :)

By the mid-1980's TV show were shooting 22:30 for a half hour and 45:00 minutes for an hour so of course those shows wouldn't need editing. The Editing of shows, as well as shorter shooting lengths began around 1983/1984.

What the studios did with the older pre-1983 around 1984 was recall all the old 16mm uncut prints are replace them with high quality 35mm to 1"j/Betacam/U-Matic edited prints - that is why all of a sudden the older tv shows looked better. At the same time,shows shot on VT were given a similar treatment of new edited masters.

This also explains the flood of old 16mm TV prints into the film collector's market. I remember the ads in THE BIG REEL when you could get good deals on old prints. Not to mention all the empty studio film reels and storage canisters/plastic cases you could pick up by the bagful.

MeTV isn't doing All the editing on The Brady Bunch, Happy Days, The Beverly Hillbillies, Rhoda, etc. - the studios are supplying the edited prints - MeTV might take a few extra seconds here or there, but all masters from CBS Television Syndication,20th Television,etc are being supplied in "Syndication Length" (22:30/45:00 - or even a notch shorter)

What The Studios did was make new HD syndication prints following the edits done in the 1980's when they upgraded their uncut masters to HD for DVD. But it's the studios, not the network supplying the basic edited shows they are working with.

CBS Television Syndication for instance, (which is also the TV libraries of Paramount,Desilu,Viacom and Spelling) over the last decade and a half have gone back and made HD transfers uncut from the original elements (Which are used for the DVDs and Uncut broadcast markets) - then recreated the edits from the 1980's to have syndication length HD quality masters. but nothing is "Taken from DVDs" - same original source,yes - but side-by-side.One set for DVD uncut and the other edited for syndication.

(I do believe the episodes of "The Twilight Zone" SyFy runs have been cut shorter (no surprise there) then the 1980's syndication length ones on MeTV.)

Here's an interesting read - The CBS Syndication bible - click on the "LIBRARY SERIES Section" then chose any classic series to get an idea of how they did/do things syndicationbible.cbstvd.com/

Pick a series and you'll see how they handled it. Some of the current half hour syndication printers actually were cut to 22:10! Many of the sections do list syndication length and even commercial breaks break-downs. It's a fun read.

It is most likely that Warner Brothers Television has prepared a fresh set of 22:00-22:30 length episodes of ALICE for AntennaTV. MeTV is running 77 SUNSET STRIP at around 46 minutes (Down from 49:00-51:00 as aired!) Which is the average length for an hour show from them.

(Oh, they may be using MPI's prints of FAMILY AFFAIR, but CBS Television Syndication still owns the syndication rights)

Me-TV uses the uncut episodes of THE BRADY BUNCH -- for further instance, watch the first episode where the "The Brady Bunch in Color" moniker is restored. That is NOT in syndication. That is the DVD prints, straight forward. Rhoda obviously is not the DVD prints, my bad, because the pilot had the first scene with Mary and Rhoda at the airport was on Me-TV, not on the DVD. They also mysteriously skipped over a bunch of episodes for some reason. They look pretty good too. I wonder if they got ahold of the prints Comedy Gold in Canada is using and edited a few seconds here and there. If you time it, a good majority of Me-TV's shows clock in longer than syndicated version. For example, I've timed a bunch of their LOVE BOAT episodes and they always came to be around 46:30(!) If Logo can get a hold of "uncut" episodes, then there's absolutely no reason we shouldn't believe that Antenna and Me can't either.

Also Me-TV said that actually, M*A*S*H is their OWN edits on their Facebook at one point -- and a number of other shows as well. And so is The Andy Griffith Show,as a number of people say that Me-TV leaves more scenes in that TV Land takes out. So, I just use the rule of thumb: old syndication prints typically have Paramount's mountain logo at the end, and the new DVD versions have CBS Television Distribution instead. So believe what you want, but this is the truth.

Also, I believe MPI has the TV distribution rights to their series as well.

. If you time it, a good majority of Me-TV's shows clock in longer than syndicated version. For example, I've timed a bunch of their LOVE BOAT episodes and they always came to be around 46:30(!)

Actually, those ARE the syndicated length - Quote from the CBS Syndication Bible/Guide...

The updated 1 Hour syndication version of The Love Boat has six, 20-second pulled-up breaks and an average program runtime of 46:30. Internal commercial load is 12 minutes (24 :30-second spots) plus local end break. (These would have been 48 minutes on ABC)

The 90 Minute syndication version of The Love Boat has eight or nine 20-second pulled-up breaks and an average program runtime of 70:30 to 74:00. (These would have been 75 minutes on ABC)

But at the end of the day, editing is editing no mater who does it and no matter how much or how little, it's how things are. I've taken the time to post on MeTV's Facebook page to ask them to clarify how they handle their shows to clear things up so we have all the facts together - let's see if they respond. :)

But shouldn't we get back to ODAAT and Logo,AntennaTV and FeTV?

Actually, those ARE the syndicated length - Quote from the CBS Syndication Bible/Guide...

The updated 1 Hour syndication version of The Love Boat has six, 20-second pulled-up breaks and an average program runtime of 46:30. Internal commercial load is 12 minutes (24 :30-second spots) plus local end break. (These would have been 48 minutes on ABC)

The 90 Minute syndication version of The Love Boat has eight or nine 20-second pulled-up breaks and an average program runtime of 70:30 to 74:00. (These would have been 75 minutes on ABC)

But at the end of the day, editing is editing no mater who does it and no matter how much or how little, it's how things are. I've taken the time to post on MeTV's Facebook page to ask them to clarify how they handle their shows to clear things up so we have all the facts together - let's see if they respond. :)

But shouldn't we get back to ODAAT and Logo,AntennaTV and FeTV?

Just Antenna and Fetv. They don't edit six 1/2 minutes out. Fetv even runs it unedited!

Fetv even runs it unedited!

You have that confirmed? :)

You have that confirmed? :)

Just look at the Fetv thread.:)

Just look at the Fetv thread.:)

There's a FeTV thread?

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=362342

Yep!!! Also Christopher Knight ( Peter Brady ) was in this ep. too!!!:) ;)
It was a very good memorable ep.!!! And AGAIN for ME to say an ep. without Max was one of the best is REALLY saying it was good.! :) :D

ALL the eps, that Bob / John Putch were in were really good and very funny ! ;) :D That's why I say he should have been a regular cast member!!!;) :wave:

Oh man.. :love:

If they're just going to hack it, Logo might as well just take ODAAT off. Fetv is airing it UNCUT. No need to watch hackjobs on Logo.

If they're just going to hack it, Logo might as well just take ODAAT off. Fetv is airing it UNCUT. No need to watch hackjobs on Logo.

Without getting too specific, I would just consider your source of info on the FETV ODAAT airings, and take it with a grain of salt.

Without getting too specific, I would just consider your source of info on the FETV ODAAT airings, and take it with a grain of salt.

I wonder if any of our ODAAT friends get Fetv? They said there were very little amount of commercials, so I don't doubt that ODAAT would be at the very least less edited than Logo there.

I wonder if any of our ODAAT friends get Fetv? They said there were very little amount of commercials, so I don't doubt that ODAAT would be at the very least less edited than Logo there.


I wish I got FETV!!! :(

I just hate how Logo hacks pivotal scenes out of ODAAT. Ridiculous. I hardly call them better than Antenna, RetroKatt. Hardly. Antenna and Me are INFINITELY better. Me is adding Facts of Life soon -- probably not hacked away like Logo's 17 min FOL episodes.

I just hate how Logo hacks pivotal scenes out of ODAAT. Ridiculous. I hardly call them better than Antenna, RetroKatt. Hardly. Antenna and Me are INFINITELY better. Me is adding Facts of Life soon -- probably not hacked away like Logo's 17 min FOL episodes.

Let me clear my position up:

From a Technical Standpoint - the visual quality is better- fresh digital transfers from 42-35 year old 2" Master tapes which are better than the 35+ year old analog transfers that make up the Embassy/Sony tapes, some that were prepared for CBS daytime! Generational wise they are at least two or three from the master VT.

From an editing standpoint - Yes, it's a drawback, but I accept it for what it is and the needs of the broadcaster/cablecaster/diginet - no different than the reverse for the channels running shows current syndication length,1980's syndication length or uncut.

I think may it be edited on computerized auto-pilot or whichever, it was well done TO FIT THE NEEDS OF THE CHANNEL. Just as many pivotal scenes as you call them have been kept and "filler" have been removed. It's no different then script-editing at the last minute if you think of it. Perhaps not the best choices sometimes, I will agree on that.

We could start 209 threads picking through every episode and every edit between the syndication prints and LOGO but what is the point? We know different choices were made,and the bulk of the syndication prints were edited While the show was in production (For the CBS Daytime and first block into syndication while the show was in Season 8) and oversaw by the production team. True post production script editing by the people involved.

ODAAT ended on the cusp of the era between shows running 25:00 and running 22:30 .

The fact the show is out there on another outlet when it spent the bulk of the last 16 years (post-E!'s airing) in the vaults of Sony domestically is better than nothing. What did we have pre-AntennaTV? Comcast's early on-demand service in the late 00's for a period, the edited down minisodes and an odd station in Chicago. Who'd guess after a long period the show would now be on 3 channels, in 3 different formats?

Let's also not forget edited or not, whichever members of the cast, production staff (or estates) who receive residuals are getting payments again. So that is something.

For the record, I don't like editing, but I accept it's a fact of business and TV is a business.

We'll never agree Sven, so again as I've said, our views are stalemated - but it's a pleasure to have civil discussions on the subject as it's worth discussing.

Well I have said this a few times now , so at risk of sounding like a boring old broken record (ha ha):D LOGO's version of Orville and Emily is MUCH better than Antenna's!!! ;) Antenna TOTALLY cut Max and Julie's" Love and Marriage "number to bits !:( As cute as it even was on Antenna it was SO MUCH better and more adorable on LOGO, a big important part of the pantomime was left in!!!:) :heart:


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Let me clear my position up:

From a Technical Standpoint - the visual quality is better- fresh digital transfers from 42-35 year old 2" Master tapes which are better than the 35+ year old analog transfers that make up the Embassy/Sony tapes, some that were prepared for CBS daytime! Generational wise they are at least two or three from the master VT.

From an editing standpoint - Yes, it's a drawback, but I accept it for what it is and the needs of the broadcaster/cablecaster/diginet - no different than the reverse for the channels running shows current syndication length,1980's syndication length or uncut.

I think may it be edited on computerized auto-pilot or whichever, it was well done TO FIT THE NEEDS OF THE CHANNEL. Just as many pivotal scenes as you call them have been kept and "filler" have been removed. It's no different then script-editing at the last minute if you think of it. Perhaps not the best choices sometimes, I will agree on that.

We could start 209 threads picking through every episode and every edit between the syndication prints and LOGO but what is the point? We know different choices were made,and the bulk of the syndication prints were edited While the show was in production (For the CBS Daytime and first block into syndication while the show was in Season 8) and oversaw by the production team. True post production script editing by the people involved.

ODAAT ended on the cusp of the era between shows running 25:00 and running 22:30 .

The fact the show is out there on another outlet when it spent the bulk of the last 16 years (post-E!'s airing) in the vaults of Sony domestically is better than nothing. What did we have pre-AntennaTV? Comcast's early on-demand service in the late 00's for a period, the edited down minisodes and an odd station in Chicago. Who'd guess after a long period the show would now be on 3 channels, in 3 different formats?

Let's also not forget edited or not, whichever members of the cast, production staff (or estates) who receive residuals are getting payments again. So that is something.

For the record, I don't like editing, but I accept it's a fact of business and TV is a business.

We'll never agree Sven, so again as I've said, our views are stalemated - but it's a pleasure to have civil discussions on the subject as it's worth discussing.

I mean, I guess what I'm trying to say is what I'd do is probably speed the theme song a bit, not too much to throw it off or whatever -- and trim transitions/gaps that aren't really needed -- and maybe handfuls of seconds here and there. That would still bring it to the right runtime, but the edits would be less painfully obvious.

And also, I don't like what both TV Land and Logo do to classic TV shows. I respect that you have a different viewpoint, but I've seen editing both done horribly (case in point TV Land and Logo's ALL IN THE FAMILY and ALICE episodes), and done fairly well (Me-TV's shows).

Well I have said this a few times now , so at risk of sounding like a boring old broken record (ha ha):D LOGO's version of Orville and Emily is MUCH better than Antenna's!!! ;) Antenna TOTALLY cut Max and Julie's" Love and Marriage "number to bits !:( As cute as it even was on Antenna it was SO MUCH better and more adorable on LOGO, a big important part of the pantomime was left in!!!:) :heart:


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Logo is still a hackjob, whether they restore a few seconds here and there, etc. and then remove two-minute scenes, yadda yadda yadda. It doesn't matter. I'll never watch Logo's hacked up ODAAT -- or should I say One Logo Hackjob at a Time? I wish Logo would take it off so Antenna and Fetv can run it more properly.

I mean, I guess what I'm trying to say is what I'd do is probably speed the theme song a bit, not too much to throw it off or whatever -- and trim transitions/gaps that aren't really needed -- and maybe handfuls of seconds here and there. That would still bring it to the right runtime, but the edits would be less painfully obvious.

And also, I don't like what both TV Land and Logo do to classic TV shows. I respect that you have a different viewpoint, but I've seen editing both done horribly (case in point TV Land and Logo's ALL IN THE FAMILY and ALICE episodes), and done fairly well (Me-TV's shows).

You've got the right idea - however 4% pitch variance is the most that can be done before it's noticeable when speeding up, but if it is used just on the opening and closing (if closings are kept and not replaced with on-screen text) it can gain a few seconds that doesn't have to be cut from the show.

The problem is the studios don't want to spend the money to make fresh "New" versions - with different edits that work better than what was done in the 1980's. Digital technology makes transitions and cuts so smooth and clean it "looks right" and better choices in what to keep and what to snip can be made. They just want to work/copy what was done in the 1980's, and then some,so they look the same - or in the case of LOGO and TV LAND, new edit crazy! We all know that even at the running times they have cut to, different choices could have been made. There has to be a middle ground.

But It's unlikely to happen. Heck, Sony won't spend the money to work on "The Farmer's Daughter" so it's unlikely the 4 majors (CBS, Sony, Fox, Universal) will go back to scratch on 1000's of shows.

I love "The Twilight Zone", but the editing is so noticeable, and the current prints are now 22:15 and 46:30. "#12 Looks Just Like You" and "22" are two episodes that are a prime example of how editing affects the story. (The Hours actually don't suffer as much.) When editing was left up to the stations, Rod Serling before he died complained - he must have been rolling over in his grave when they made the official cuts in the 1980's

It's crazy, 20+ years ago people praised TV LAND for running mostly uncut shows - SONNY & CHER ran 51 minutes! - which they did well into the end of the decade. Even Nick@Nite was also mostly uncut for it's first 5 years. Now the topic is about how much and how bad editing has become.

Even DVD isn't immune - the odd missing material on the ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW and BATMAN DVDs!

You've got the right idea - however 4% pitch variance is the most that can be done before it's noticeable when speeding up, but if it is used just on the opening and closing (if closings are kept and not replaced with on-screen text) it can gain a few seconds that doesn't have to be cut from the show.

The problem is the studios don't want to spend the money to make fresh "New" versions - with different edits that work better than what was done in the 1980's. Digital technology makes transitions and cuts so smooth and clean it "looks right" and better choices in what to keep and what to snip can be made. They just want to work/copy what was done in the 1980's, and then some,so they look the same - or in the case of LOGO and TV LAND, new edit crazy! We all know that even at the running times they have cut to, different choices could have been made. There has to be a middle ground.

But It's unlikely to happen. Heck, Sony won't spend the money to work on "The Farmer's Daughter" so it's unlikely the 4 majors (CBS, Sony, Fox, Universal) will go back to scratch on 1000's of shows.

I love "The Twilight Zone", but the editing is so noticeable, and the current prints are now 22:15 and 46:30. "#12 Looks Just Like You" and "22" are two episodes that are a prime example of how editing affects the story. (The Hours actually don't suffer as much.) When editing was left up to the stations, Rod Serling before he died complained - he must have been rolling over in his grave when they made the official cuts in the 1980's

It's crazy, 20+ years ago people praised TV LAND for running mostly uncut shows - SONNY & CHER ran 51 minutes! - which they did well into the end of the decade. Even Nick@Nite was also mostly uncut for it's first 5 years. Now the topic is about how much and how bad editing has become.

Even DVD isn't immune - the odd missing material on the ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW and BATMAN DVDs!

I've heard about The Andy Griffith Show DVDs some eps are missing tag scenes. I don't know if they're restored on streaming or not? And there are others mostly CBS edited for music clearances, or they were just lazh about it. Happy Days Season 1 has all of its music but 2-6 have edits everywhere.

Get TV runs Sonny & Cher Hour now so I wonder how their editing is? I've watched DESIGNING WOMEN a couple of times, and they have the re-typed credits. It's unfortunate that even DVDs have to suffer sometimes because of music clearance -- Shout! Factory had to cancel a few because the music people said no. Like Blossom and Werewolf, and it wouldn't have been easy to replace the music without ruining the audio track completely. Very unfortunate.

There are several retro channels now and it's difficult to keep track of all of them. My cable service has most of them, including COZI and LOGO but I seldom watch those channels. I don't have FETV, but as far as I know, that channel is currently available only thru sattellite/DirectTV.

Well I have said this a few times now , so at risk of sounding like a boring old broken record (ha ha):D LOGO's version of Orville and Emily is MUCH better than Antenna's!!! ;) Antenna TOTALLY cut Max and Julie's" Love and Marriage "number to bits !:( As cute as it even was on Antenna it was SO MUCH better and more adorable on LOGO, a big important part of the pantomime was left in!!!:) :heart:


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Antenna is much better than Logo, keeping 3+ more minutes of stuff in than Logo! Or 5 minutes... depending on what episode it is! :lol:

The Editing on LOGO is insane! "Jealousy" had the whole first minute edited!

A Skillful editor could do a better job tighting thing up. Then there's the end scene/writer-director credit with the screen shrunk to 2/3 with the remaining credits over black background rather than the standard white lettering on no background, with the screen regular size on the bottom other Norman Lear/Sony Shows use on other channels. Sometimes action in the last scene is happening! *Face-palm* Not sure if Sony or Logo is doing the editing.

Remember those minisodes Sony used to put together cutting shows down to 6 minutes a decade ago - boy do these come close :)

Only for Valerie would I put up with this. :)

...and we lose AntennaTV in the late spring when the station goes off the air so if it does come back, I don't get it. You know how it it is, a show is picked up and you say to yourself "I'll record it next cycle" then there isn't one

I remember this well:) :wave: ;)

Get TV runs Sonny & Cher Hour now so I wonder how their editing is?

The show runs 51 minutes unedited, so you can figure how much is cut.

TV Land (LOGO's sister channel) cuts Gunsmoke and Bonanza episodes (originally about 51 minutes too) to 37-38 minutes.

That's a freakin disgrace.

TV Land (LOGO's sister channel) cuts Gunsmoke and Bonanza episodes (originally about 51 minutes too) to 37-38 minutes.

Is Andy Griffith edited?

Is Andy Griffith edited?

Yeah. Once I timed an episode and it was only close to 17 minutes instead of 26!:eek:

I watched an All in the Family episode once on LOGO -- big mistake BTW. I didn't time it like I did with Alice , but it was the one where Mike goes picketing and Archie mistakenly gets arrested. They edited out several scenes that were important. Ugh.

I wish Logo would just stick to the unedited prints and(if needed) speed the theme up a bit so it's down to only like 24 1/2 minutes(maybe over). Then add 5 minutes to the timeslot...run ODAAT commercial-free...and then run commercials for the next 10+ minutes. Logo usually runs 11 minutes in a half-hour anyway.

I watch Logo a lot. But I am disappointed on the way they run shows. In fact, all the Viacom stations are bad. Ex. I watched Saved by the Bell. They came back from one of their commercials. And what I mean by that, is they took the commercial break at the wrong time. Well, anyway, they come back from commercial and literally 3 minutes later, maybe less than that, they took another commercial.:mad:

The thing I hate most about any of the shows on Logo is the excessive amount of RuPaul commercials. The exact same commercial airs about 4 times within the same half hour. And, I absolutely hate the commercial because it uses God's name in vain over and over. I usually hit the mute button when it first comes on.

Yeah. Once I timed an episode and it was only close to 17 minutes instead of 26!:eek:

I watched an All in the Family episode once on LOGO -- big mistake BTW. I didn't time it like I did with Alice , but it was the one where Mike goes picketing and Archie mistakenly gets arrested. They edited out several scenes that were important. Ugh.

Just great. :eek:

The thing I hate most about any of the shows on Logo is the excessive amount of RuPaul commercials. The exact same commercial airs about 4 times within the same half hour. And, I absolutely hate the commercial because it uses God's name in vain over and over. I usually hit the mute button when it first comes on.

I'll never understand why the GD word is allowed on TV while the S word frequently gets bleeped.

Logo looks to be removing ODAAT starting October 16th and replacing it with extra ALICE.

I have a theory: what if Logo is responsible for the hacked up episodes (90%) and Sony is behind the "new" Season 9 episodes on Logo- not Logo themselves? Sony made wonderful prints for Antenna that didn't cut much out- just strategic edits (I timed and they are an avg. of 23:30 on Antenna).

Logo looks to be removing ODAAT starting October 16th and replacing it with extra ALICE.

Great. I bet Alice will be edited.

Great. I bet Alice will be edited.

Butchered is more like it. ALICE is 18 minutes out of the 25 1/2 it used to be--18 mins on LOGO--same with ODAAT. They edited each episode down to about 18 1/2-19 minutes removing pivotal scenes and key dialogue moments. I'm GLAD it will be removed from LOGO!

Butchered is more like it. ALICE is 18 minutes out of the 25 1/2 it used to be--18 mins on LOGO--same with ODAAT. They edited each episode down to about 18 1/2-19 minutes removing pivotal scenes and key dialogue moments. I'm GLAD it will be removed from LOGO!

I wish Alice was removed.

It's only on Thursday, October 19th at:
(all times Eastern)
1:28am
2:00am
2:30am
3:00am
3:30am

Must have extra runs to burn off before it expires or something. Either way, I'm glad. Antenna treated it way better anyway by keeping a lot more in than Logo. Sure, Antenna's syndication prints cut a few seconds here and there -- but they were very strategic edits made by Embassy/Sony not some person standing around wanting to ruin other people's joy of a nostalgic classic.

I wish Alice was removed.

I love ALICE, but I wish the same so we don't have to deal with the butchering on LOGO. I can't wait till it comes on Antenna.:wave:

I love ALICE, but I wish the same so we don't have to deal with the butchering on LOGO. I can't wait till it comes on Antenna.:wave:

I wish Antenna TV would announce their new and upcoming shows already.

I have cycled all the way through the show now on Logo. I know I have complained about Ann, but all in all, this show had a good run for nine years. The quality never declined to a point that it was unwatchable. A lot of the credit for that goes to Valerie and Pat for me.

Did Logo pull ODAAT off it's schedule?

I can't wait to get the complete series soon!

Did Logo pull ODAAT off it's schedule?


Before Sven pops in to tell you how horrible Logo is, I think they still run it but have moved it to early morning EST.

Before Sven pops in to tell you how horrible Logo is, I think they still run it but have moved it to early morning EST.

THOSE BUTCHERS!:mad:

Did Logo pull ODAAT off it's schedule?
I can't wait to get the complete series soon!


No, it's still on! As Opus said, it's on in the morning now! ;) Between 7 to 9! I was watching this morning! :wave: .

THOSE BUTCHERS!:mad:

Butchers, Bakers and Candlestick makers!!!:lol: :D :wave:

I hope that ODAAT gets removed by late November on LOGO... NOT the right channel at all!!! Ugh. On Halloween they're butchering some movies.