View Full Version : Tina Louise - why wasn't she a bigger star?


TMC
03-14-2017, 03:27 AM
It seemed like Hollywood was grooming her (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tina_Louise) for the big-time at one point.

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Babalu
03-14-2017, 01:15 PM
Tina was beautiful but others were more beautiful. She was also the glamorous type and the 60's and 70's were going away from the glamorous type to the more natural type like Goldie Hawn. Tina was also the sex kitten type but she didn't want to be that. She wanted to be the Joanne Woodward type but acting wise she wasn't in that league. Plus she had acquired the reputation of being difficult on Gilligan's Island. To be blunt, if producers were going to pay for Tina Louise's name recognition, they wanted skin, and she wasn't interested. She wanted an Oscar.

Alex Cooper
03-20-2017, 09:37 PM
Ironically, she gained far more recognition and lasting fame with a part she was dissatisfied with on a rather silly show than she would have even with an Academy Award.

TMC
08-29-2017, 01:16 AM
Tina was beautiful but others were more beautiful. She was also the glamorous type and the 60's and 70's were going away from the glamorous type to the more natural type like Goldie Hawn. Tina was also the sex kitten type but she didn't want to be that. She wanted to be the Joanne Woodward type but acting wise she wasn't in that league. Plus she had acquired the reputation of being difficult on Gilligan's Island. To be blunt, if producers were going to pay for Tina Louise's name recognition, they wanted skin, and she wasn't interested. She wanted an Oscar.

What was the cause of their feud? I think that a few years back, Dawn said that they didn't have very much in common. But then again, I don't think Tina really stayed in touch with any of her Gilligan's Island (given that she was always embarrassed by GI and thought she deserved better) co-stars.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimclash/2016/03/20/dawn-wells-aka-mary-ann-dishes-more-here-on-gilligans-island/#7d2b13153d81

Samme
09-14-2017, 02:41 PM
She wasn't really that talented. She was okay and certainly attractive enough to go the guest star route, but she lacked personality and likeablility. She only those two things on GI, and in other roles she was rather boring. She couldn't carry a show or movie. She worked best in supporting comedy role (like GI, the perfect role for her), she seemed to have some talent and personality to spare.
but when she got bigger roles she was just another okay yet pretty actress.

HuntingtonM15
09-14-2017, 02:47 PM
She wasn't really that talented. to go the guest star route, but she lacked personality and likeablility.

I think you hit the nail on the head there. Tina definitely lacks likability. I'd say she's gotten better with being moderately fan friendly in her later years, but she's never been known to be the nicest person around. Dawn Wells, on the other hand is an absolute sweetheart.

Chocolate Moose
09-14-2017, 02:49 PM
Oh. that's too bad.

Flying Dutchman
05-03-2018, 02:44 PM
I think the real question is, why was Hollywood so bent on type casting? Seems they didn't have the foresight to look beyond TV characters and take a chance on a movie part. Let them show that they can do other characters well. Of course they finally stopped it, but not before it did damage to many potential stars.

zamboney
05-10-2018, 09:46 AM
Having seen most of her dramatic acting performances, I'd say it is because Tina is only a fair actress. Maybe if she had continued on in roles as a regular in sitcoms she may have had more staying power. I say this because over on youtube in a GI clip, someone commented that for a person that tried to distance herself from GI, she sure seems to be enjoying herself doing the comedy bits. Would definitely agree with that opinion. I suppose an actress would prefer to be remembered for big screen performances than little screen performances.

russman48
07-02-2018, 09:44 AM
I think the real question is, why was Hollywood so bent on type casting? Seems they didn't have the foresight to look beyond TV characters and take a chance on a movie part. Let them show that they can do other characters well. Of course they finally stopped it, but not before it did damage to many potential stars.

Typecasting was very, very common back then.

TMC
11-03-2018, 03:30 AM
I think you hit the nail on the head there. Tina definitely lacks likability. I'd say she's gotten better with being moderately fan friendly in her later years, but she's never been known to be the nicest person around. Dawn Wells, on the other hand is an absolute sweetheart.

Tina Louise always seemed to think that Gilligan's Island was beneath her. She actually thought that the show was going to be about her movie star character. Maybe she misread and thought that the title of the show was Ginger's Island, I don't know. But the bottom-line is that she was pretty much detested by everyone (with the exception of the stage-hands) on set.

80sTrivia
11-03-2018, 06:31 AM
To hear her tell it, Tina has always blamed the success of Gilligan's Island for her somewhat thwarted career. She has said the role pigeon-holed her as the perpetual sex-pot and those sort of roles diminished as she grew older.

Samme
11-03-2018, 10:13 AM
I think Tina's idea of acting, other than on GI, was just to appear grim. And that ain't enough to make people wanna watch you.

As for typecasting, it's just Hollywood wanting you to keep doing what you do well. It isn't a producer's job to help prove that someone is a great actor beyond the role that made them famous. That's an actor's job, and when they don't have the ability to do it, they complain about typecasting. If they truly have the ability it shows itself. I didn't think Woody Harrelson was gonna have much of a career after Cheers, but he proved his talent beyond just that role. His talent burst though, but most others don't. Their fame outweighs their ability to prove themselves beyond that one type of role. Tina wasn't that good beyond Ginger.

SitcomsHeydayfan
12-12-2018, 01:36 AM
She should've been bigger but I think many of the so called A list actors today are AWFUL and I wonder how they got so big?? Look at Angelina Jolie. There are literally hundreds if not thousands of girls at a major college campus near you who are better looking than her. Even her acting isn't THAT great. So how did such an ordinary looking person get so big?? You can make the case Julia Roberts is even uglier yet look how big she got!

Tina should've been given a bigger role on Dallas and lasted several years but instead they killed her off pretty quickly. Dallas was the biggest show on TV at the time so Tina was thrilled to be there and didn't give them any trouble right?

TMC
02-18-2020, 02:44 AM
Typecasting was very, very common back then.

According to Dawn Wells' book, Tina was lied to by her agent, and signed the deal without reading the script. She was told it was "Ginger's Island" (supposedly, it was originally offered to Jayne Mansfield (https://www.metv.com/stories/janye-mansfield-turned-down-the-role-of-ginger-on-gilligans-island)) and that she was to be the star. She resented the whole thing, and later was type-cast by the role.

TMC
02-18-2020, 02:52 AM
She wasn't really that talented. She was okay and certainly attractive enough to go the guest star route, but she lacked personality and likeablility. She only those two things on GI, and in other roles she was rather boring. She couldn't carry a show or movie. She worked best in supporting comedy role (like GI, the perfect role for her), she seemed to have some talent and personality to spare.
but when she got bigger roles she was just another okay yet pretty actress.

Maybe Tina's problem at the end of the day, was that she really didn't seem to have a sense of humor about herself or her status as a celebrity. Like back in the '80s, Tina would go on talk shows (like the big reunion show on Fox's Late Show in 1988; the last time that all of the castaways were together in the same room) and while she was reserved but polite enough when about her career, Tina none the less, could still get stone-faced and sneer over the "wrong" question. Like if the interviewer made a joke about why didn't the Professor make a boat if they wanted to leave.