View Full Version : Streaming "Debbie" racial edit?
comicbookwriter 03-09-2017, 06:13 PM I'm watching the horrifying "Debbie" segment on season 3 of the Amazon Unsolved Mysteries version, and I noticed that the cautionary message about the story featuring a Black man raping a White woman (not wanting to pander to stereotypes or racial fears) seems to have been removed.
Maybe I missed it, but I swear that I remember Stack giving a warning about the nature of the attack and that the reporting of the event isn't meant to stoke racial fears.
Strange (especially in these times) to remove such an important message.
JannTosh 03-09-2017, 07:12 PM Always thought that line was unnecessary. Don't even
Know why it was brought up.
Always thought that line was unnecessary. Don't even
Know why it was brought up.
I agree completely that the line was unnecessary, and I think what he said was "It's important that you don't focus on the attacker's race". I don't like that they're chopping pieces out of the episodes though (aside from changing the defunct 1-800 number to unsolved.com). The next thing they cut out might be something I liked that will just be lost in the void of tv history.
sdb4884 03-10-2017, 12:42 AM Yeah it wasn't required but I don't like them cutting anything out.
Awsi Dooger 03-10-2017, 03:46 AM Nowadays fear is a given. I think that's why they cut it out. Superfluous.
TheCars1986 03-10-2017, 08:58 AM Always thought that line was unnecessary. Don't even
Know why it was brought up.
Remember the time period this was filmed in. They didn't want people unnecessarily being afraid of being kidnapped and brutally attacked based off of someone's race. Although I'm not quite sure how far we've come since then.
NCRavensFan86 03-10-2017, 01:34 PM I don't agree with Filmrise cutting that line either. However on a positive note, this segment is still about 3 minutes longer than when it aired on Lifetime.
comicbookwriter 03-10-2017, 03:45 PM Always thought that line was unnecessary. Don't even
Know why it was brought up.
The racial climate around the fear of Black men is still deeply problematic.
For a show that was broadcast nationally with high ratings at the time, it was a fairly responsible gesture not to have viewers buy into the stereotypes, especially with the brutal dramatization.
In a world where a young White man walked into a Black church and before shooting a group of innocent people say (sic) "you guys rape our women, you got to go" it's not far fetched to want to be careful about racial fear mongering.
The 1980s were not a racial paradise in the U.S., and I'm not trying to dredge up anything, I just was struck by the omission of the line.
LooksLikeCRicci 03-10-2017, 04:01 PM However on a positive note, this segment is still about 3 minutes longer than when it aired on Lifetime.
That's good to know! I love it when I get more UM than I am expecting!
Todd Mueller 03-10-2017, 06:57 PM I'm watching the horrifying "Debbie" segment on season 3 of the Amazon Unsolved Mysteries version, and I noticed that the cautionary message about the story featuring a Black man raping a White woman (not wanting to pander to stereotypes or racial fears) seems to have been removed.
Maybe I missed it, but I swear that I remember Stack giving a warning about the nature of the attack and that the reporting of the event isn't meant to stoke racial fears.
Strange (especially in these times) to remove such an important message.
I vividly remember that line too, but I think it may have been on a different segment. I know for a fact he said it, though.
MegtheEgg86 03-10-2017, 07:58 PM The racial climate around the fear of Black men is still deeply problematic.
For a show that was broadcast nationally with high ratings at the time, it was a fairly responsible gesture not to have viewers buy into the stereotypes, especially with the brutal dramatization.
In a world where a young White man walked into a Black church and before shooting a group of innocent people say (sic) "you guys rape our women, you got to go" it's not far fetched to want to be careful about racial fear mongering.
The 1980s were not a racial paradise in the U.S., and I'm not trying to dredge up anything, I just was struck by the omission of the line.
+1
mikewho 03-12-2017, 12:39 AM Is that the case where she was shot with a shotgun? Also the two police officers are parked and she comes out of the woods for help?
If that's the case I'm thinking of it was one of the more scary cases to me. Haven't seen it in so long but it sure was eerie with what I remember
Hot Jock 03-12-2017, 01:42 AM Is that the case where she was shot with a shotgun? Also the two police officers are parked and she comes out of the woods for help?
If that's the case I'm thinking of it was one of the more scary cases to me. Haven't seen it in so long but it sure was eerie with what I remember
Yes, this is the case you're thinking of.
http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Debbie
mtaylor72 03-13-2017, 09:21 AM I agree completely that the line was unnecessary, and I think what he said was "It's important that you don't focus on the attacker's race". I don't like that they're chopping pieces out of the episodes though (aside from changing the defunct 1-800 number to unsolved.com). The next thing they cut out might be something I liked that will just be lost in the void of tv history.
At least they aren't cutting out the dates like they did for the Farina episodes. I still haven't forgiven C&M for doing that.
At least they aren't cutting out the dates like they did for the Farina episodes. I still haven't forgiven C&M for doing that.
That was a bizarre decision. It seemed as though they were trying to hide the age of the segments, even though it was already clear from the hairstyles/clothing and the fact that Farina said "he served his time, and has been released" multiple times in a single episide.
bluejazz87 03-14-2017, 04:11 AM I'm watching the horrifying "Debbie" segment on season 3 of the Amazon Unsolved Mysteries version, and I noticed that the cautionary message about the story featuring a Black man raping a White woman (not wanting to pander to stereotypes or racial fears) seems to have been removed.
Maybe I missed it, but I swear that I remember Stack giving a warning about the nature of the attack and that the reporting of the event isn't meant to stoke racial fears.
Strange (especially in these times) to remove such an important message.
Yes it used to be there. I watched the segment too and noticed it was missing. I have the old segment in my personal archive and it's on that broadcast. Like someone else said it is rather unnecessary. I found it rather odd that they would do it for just this one segment and not another one. Maybe UM received some complaints about their stories? Perhaps they showed too many stories with minorities in a row? Thought it might have been because of the Rodney King incident and feelings at the time, but that didn't happen until the following year. Also that was a police issue. Odd.
everybodylovesrs 03-18-2017, 09:56 AM At least they aren't cutting out the dates like they did for the Farina episodes. I still haven't forgiven C&M for doing that.
Yeah, that was pathetic. Like their fashion wasn't a big enough clue that the cases were from the '80s.
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