Beverly Jarosz is one of the most talked crime causes in Cleveland's history
http://www.defrostingcoldcases.com/beverly-ann-jarosz-1948-1964/

Beverly Jarosz is one of the most talked crime causes in Cleveland's history
http://www.defrostingcoldcases.com/beverly-ann-jarosz-1948-1964/

I've had a few in my backyard. Offhand....

Oba Chandler and the Rogers family

Glen Consagra

Thomas Drake

Art Frankford

John Hardin - murder and his allegedly haunted house is about 30 minutes from me currently.

The Mann's haunted house in Lake Wales - about an hour away.

Beverly McGowan

Rebecca Young

An armed robbery in the middle of the night at a drive up ATM in May 1995 - this was a special alert type deal

A wanted pedophile was profiled as a special alert under similar circumstances.

James Cole (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cole_james.html) vanished without a trace after leaving a local restaurant/bar back in 1994. His parents lived less than a 10 minute walk away from the bar, and he was seen leaving the bar, but to this day he's never been found.

Tom Keuter happened in my state but it's like a 5-6 hour drive to get to the location for me.

Arnold Archambeau and Ruby Brugier happened much closer. 1-2 hours away. I've actually been to the spot where the accident happened.

I grew up near where Johnny Gosch and Eugene Martin, two paperboys in Des Moines, IA, were abducted. Another boy, Marc Allen, went missing after Eugene. He wasn't a paperboy and he was abducted at dusk rather than first thing in the morning. I was always surprised that they were never profiled. Especially because Johnny's mother Noreen was very vocal about his kidnapping. I think if there had been any kind of suspect in either case they might have been more likely to be profiled on UM. There was literally nothing to go on.

Chris Jenkins in Minneapolis in 2002 was an interesting case. Todd Mueller might remember that one? Nathan Edberg who disappeared in 1999 near the intersection of 694 and 35E in Little Canada right where I lived. Or Jacob Wetterling though his case was solved finally last year, he had disappeared in 1989.

Woody Kelly was at my house 2 different times when I was a youngster. My mother is a business owner and he knew my moms accountant. 2 different times he tried to get my mom to use him as her financial adviser. My mother has always patted herself on the back for thinking he was a conman.

The Colonial Parkway Murders in Williamsburg, VA.

Colonial Parkway Killer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_Parkway_Killer)

There are lots of articles and videos online. It's still brought up often in the local news.

Chris Jenkins in Minneapolis in 2002 was an interesting case. Todd Mueller might remember that one? Nathan Edberg who disappeared in 1999 near the intersection of 694 and 35E in Little Canada right where I lived. Or Jacob Wetterling though his case was solved finally last year, he had disappeared in 1989.

I agree, kadrmaskb. I was always hoping they would cover Jacob Wetterling, but at least his case was solved.

I agree that the Chris Jenkins case would be a good one. It started off as another young drunk kid fell in the river, however there is a lot of evidence that he was murdered. It would make a great UM case.

Yeah Todd, I knew you would remember that one. There is a book about it that his Mom wrote that is actually pretty good. What I can say about that case is, well the Minneapolis PD basically bungled that case as they wrote it off as another drunk college kid accidental death. I do not believe Jenkins was the target of some random serial killer like the alleged 'smiley face' killer. However I do believe he was murdered based off the physical evidence. One of the prime suspects in his death was and perhaps still is a Minneapolis Police Officer who at that time was off duty and was involved in a love triangle with Jenkins girlfriend. Minneapolis PD didn't admit it was a homicide until four years later and basically nothing has been done about it since. Are there any over in Saint Paul that would make the list? I lived in Ramsey County for two years in Little Canada. One, Toni Bachmann, she would have been a good one. But her creepy hubby after over 15 years admitted he killed her though her body has never been found and he pled out to manslaughter.

Jacob Wetterling is so tragic but I am glad it was solved. It is sad and scary that Danny Heinrich was out as long as he was and was basically right under the cops nose. He was given immunity from prosecution on state murder charges in exchange for pleading guilty to federal charges and was sentenced to 25 years there. I suppose it is because based off 1989 law the most he could get for a First Degree Murder conviction was 18 years to life but it would have kept him from getting out ever again.

1. The murder of Sister Roberta Elam in Wheeling,WV
2. Although after UM ended the 2003 sniper killings in the Kanawha Valley
3. The murder of Dewey Edward Brown

James Cooper. Went to my high school and was almost 2 years to the day younger than me. Lived a street over from my Grandma

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cooper_james.html

Nevaeh Buchanan. I have a lot of connecting to people involved in this case
http://www.wtol.com/story/32330309/the-search-for-answers-who-killed-5-year-old-nevaeh-buchanan

My friend, Julia Niswender. And no it was NOT her dad/stepdad.
http://micoldcases.com/julia-niswender/

The triple murder on the 10 year anniversary to 9/11 not far from my house. No one was ever charged and the murder remains unsolved. Yes I know it was long after UM ended

The Oakland County Child Killer. He killed 4 children, 2 boys and 2 girls, between 1976 and 1977. They were all separately abducted off the streets in broad daylight and held for days. All of them were bathed and their clothes had been washed clean before they were taken out and killed, then left in snowbanks. This happened in southeast Michigan, about 15-20 miles from where I live and grew up.

There was an interesting fact regarding the final victim, Timothy King. After he disappeared, his parents were interviewed on the local news. His mother pleaded with the kidnapper for Tim to be reunited with the family so she could feed him his favorite dinner; Kentucky Fried Chicken. When Tim's body was found and exhumed, the contents of his stomach showed that he had been fed Kentucky Fried Chicken shortly before being killed.

I could see a case like this being featured on UM. I wasn't born yet when this all went down. My parents were newlyweds and they remember the news broadcasts. But I don't think this case got much local publicity through the years. I, personally, didn't hear of the case until I was in high school.

Unfortunately, after 40 years, the families still have no closure. There are possible suspects but nothing definite.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/defenders/oakland-county-child-killer-40-years-later

Dynoguy, we must be neighbors. I live downriver, but am originally from Monroe

I was going to post the OCC murder, but they were so big in the media, I went with other cases. patterson and Cooper are useless as prosecutors, so I'm hoping someone just takes the reins and gives these families some closure. I was in my mana's belly when the last one happened

Paige Renkoski, D'wan Sims, Berniece Grey are missing people that have always stuck with me. The guys that were killed up in Mio by the brothers who are now in prison was also a good cold case that was solved

Dynoguy, we must be neighbors. I live downriver, but am originally from Monroe

I was going to post the OCC murder, but they were so big in the media, I went with other cases. patterson and Cooper are useless as prosecutors, so I'm hoping someone just takes the reins and gives these families some closure. I was in my mana's belly when the last one happened

Paige Renkoski, D'wan Sims, Berniece Grey are missing people that have always stuck with me. The guys that were killed up in Mio by the brothers who are now in prison was also a good cold case that was solved

Neighbors indeed. I'm in Dearborn.

That last known victim of the OCC killer was murdered three years before I was born but that case haunts me. Especially since they all happened in such nice neighborhoods and in the middle of the day! My impression is that stranger danger wasn't as drilled into the public in the 70s as it would become in the 80s and 90s. Maybe the guy offered them all rides and that ended up making them easy abductions. I don't know. I just wish their families could get ANY news.

The hunters murdered in Mio and fed to the pigs...that is something straight out of a horror movie. Thank GOD those killers are in prison where they belong.

In my local area (Phoenix), lots of still-unsolved and UM-worthy cases:

Mikelle Biggs....little girl and her sister are waiting for the ice cream truck to come in 1999, sister runs inside, and in that 90-second window Mikelle is abducted and remains missing to this day:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/mesa/2017/01/02/missing-arizona-children-mesa-mikelle-biggs-1999-disappeared-90-seconds-while-waiting-ice-cream-truck/94563828/

A more recent case, a little boy who reportedly ran away from home but his foster mother is pretty shady:

http://www.abc15.com/news/region-west-valley/avondale/jesse-wilson-update-former-neighbors-say-missing-boy-siblings-left-unsupervised-and-hungry

Also recent, what appears to be a bona fide serial killer on the loose yet extremely little media attention outside of the metro area:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2016/09/02/what-we-now-know-phoenix-serial-street-shooter-maryvale/89780824/

Wow! Small world. I used towork in Dearborn( west Dearborn)

Yeah, the brothers thought they had the perfect murder- feeding them to the pigs. Thank good karma got them

That's easy:

Elisa Lam.

One of the most complex and disturbing cases I've heard of in Los Angeles.

You could do an entire episode just on this case.

Sweet Kari Nunemaker.

This case really shook up my hometown. I was a year older than her, and was at the same indoor soccer game with her the night she was abducted and killed. In fact, I was sitting in front of her, and we shared a laugh when an errant ball flew at us. I didn't really know her, but the image of her smiling and laughing behind me has been in my mind for 25+ years now.

She hung out in all places us high school kids did, and I know the exact railroad crossing she was sitting at when she was abducted. Sat at it so many times. Lots of freight trains come through especially at night, and hold up traffic. It can be many long minutes, waiting alone in your car in the dark.

It was horrifying when her body was found. Parents were frantic about teenage girls going out alone. My aunt bought me pepper spray.

Though I've long since left the area, I was relieved to hear an arrest was finally made, almost twenty years later. It could have been a very good UM segment, but it was DNA database legwork that finally solved it.


http://www.goshennews.com/news/local_news/man-convicted-years-after-murder/article_87a037cf-38a7-5934-8d26-4a15822ce67f.html

That's easy:

Elisa Lam.

One of the most complex and disturbing cases I've heard of in Los Angeles.

You could do an entire episode just on this case.


If only there were a resident podcaster who could be up to a challenge of this magnitude....

That's easy:

Elisa Lam.

One of the most complex and disturbing cases I've heard of in Los Angeles.

I watched a video on YouTube last week of four friends who went to the Cecil Hotel with a camera. They went inside the exact elevator Elisa was last seen in. They also walked the fire escape all the way to the roof with no issue, which is, logically, the only way she could have gotten up there on her own.

It's extremely dark up there under the night sky without some kind of a flashlight or even the light of a cell phone. There's also a back staircase behind the water towers that requires jumping to reach once you get to the top. If you've made it that far, opening and closing the door to the water tank is difficult because it's very heavy.

If she were having some type of psychotic episode, all of these things would be difficult but not impossible. So they concluded, in their minds, that this was the situation.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/04/01/unsolved-mystery-10-years-later-brian-shaffer-still-missing.html

Brian Shaffer (Columbus, Ohio)

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/04/01/unsolved-mystery-10-years-later-brian-shaffer-still-missing.html

Brian Shaffer (Columbus, Ohio)

LooksLikeCRicci brought this one up in a similar thread recently. It's a mind-boggling one for sure. Why did he separate from his friends and when/how did he leave the bar?

It's not local to me, but the disappearance of Patty Adkins from Marysville, OH really sticks in my craw. Not because it's all that mysterious, but because it's obvious what happened and no one has been able to do anything about it.

That's easy:

Elisa Lam.

One of the most complex and disturbing cases I've heard of in Los Angeles.

You could do an entire episode just on this case.


Was that the girl who went mental in the lift then turned up dead in a Water Tank?

Agreed. This is one so frustrating and sad. I think Disappeared did a good episode on it?

That poor girl, and her poor family.

Agreed. This is one so frustrating and sad. I think Disappeared did a good episode on it?

That poor girl, and her poor family.

If you're responding to my message, yes, Disappeared did an episode on this one. It's a super tragic story, and my heart breaks for her family.

It's not local to me, but the disappearance of Patty Adkins from Marysville, OH really sticks in my craw. Not because it's all that mysterious, but because it's obvious what happened and no one has been able to do anything about it.

My childhood best friends brother was working at the Honda plant there when this happened. It was pretty much the common agreement that the "boyfriend" had something to do with it.

My childhood best friends brother was working at the Honda plant there when this happened. It was pretty much the common agreement that the "boyfriend" had something to do with it.

Yeah, I can't seen any other scenario based on the established facts of the case. Cases like this where the circumstances are obvious but they can't make a case really frustrate me.

This case struck a sharper chord with me than most. I think this had a lot to do with how the Disappeared episode present Patty as a person. It really struck a chord because she reminded me in a lot of ways of women in my family. I saw someone who was driven, motivated and self-made while at the same time vulnerable, kind and decent.

Such a tragedy.

LooksLikeCRicci brought this one up in a similar thread recently. It's a mind-boggling one for sure. Why did he separate from his friends and when/how did he leave the bar?

YES.... this one kills me. Here you had a missing person who seemingly had everything to look forward to. Even though his mom had passed away, he was a successful medical student and had a good relationship with the rest of his family and his girlfriend. I can literally think of no reason why a person would walk away from all that.

YES.... this one kills me. Here you had a missing person who seemingly had everything to look forward to. Even though his mom had passed away, he was a successful medical student and had a good relationship with the rest of his family and his girlfriend. I can literally think of no reason why a person would walk away from all that.

Plus, in the middle of a night out drinking with friends is the most utterly bizarre time to walk away from his life.

But, other than him being missing, there are absolutely no indications of foul play that I've heard about. There are no reports he had an altercation with anyone the night he disappeared nor were there any reports that anyone had any reason to want to harm him.

This case is just a pure head-scratcher.

Yeah, I can't seen any other scenario based on the established facts of the case. Cases like this where the circumstances are obvious but they can't make a case really frustrate me.

This case struck a sharper chord with me than most. I think this had a lot to do with how the Disappeared episode present Patty as a person. It really struck a chord because she reminded me in a lot of ways of women in my family. I saw someone who was driven, motivated and self-made while at the same time vulnerable, kind and decent.

Such a tragedy.
Completely agree. She reminded me a bit of myself- driven but would do anything to help out anyone, including lending money to someone she trusted. Disappeared didn't present her in the light that she could've been a " home wrecker". They presented her as a person, as you said

The Smokies disappearances of Dennis Martin (1969), Trenny Gibson (1976), and Pauline Melton (1981).

The Williams sisters murders:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?216836-TN-Suzanne-40-amp-Patricia-Williams-37-Knoxville-29-Dec-1987

The Smokies disappearances of Dennis Martin (1969), Trenny Gibson (1976), and Pauline Melton (1981).

The Williams sisters murders:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?216836-TN-Suzanne-40-amp-Patricia-Williams-37-Knoxville-29-Dec-1987

Meg, I have read you live in the East TN area. My dad lives near Cumberland Gap, and although it was solves, it was on the show Murder in a Small Town. It was about Harvey Fuson, who was killed inside of the drug store in CG. His daughter married the son of my aunts fiancé, and my dad went to high school with Harvey. Small world!

Meg, I have read you live in the East TN area. My dad lives near Cumberland Gap, and although it was solves, it was on the show Murder in a Small Town. It was about Harvey Fuson, who was killed inside of the drug store in CG. His daughter married the son of my aunts fiancé, and my dad went to high school with Harvey. Small world!

Interesting! I love that area around CG.

Interesting! I love that area around CG.

It is beautiful, but I'm a city Girl at heart.

I've also been to where Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom were killed. It was on our way to his house after he picked me up at the airport. I know the house was torn down and there's a memorial cross there now, but I had to pay my respects

It is beautiful, but I'm a city Girl at heart.

I've also been to where Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom were killed. It was on our way to his house after he picked me up at the airport. I know the house was torn down and there's a memorial cross there now, but I had to pay my respects

We were at UT at the same time and I was in ROTC with a guy who knew both of them well. I still don't know several of the details about their murders, because what little I did learn disturbed me so much I decided not to go any further.

I remember years ago my dad catching a local news story about the trial and mentioning the look in Channon Christian's father's eyes--like a man on fire.

We were at UT at the same time and I was in ROTC with a guy who knew both of them well. I still don't know several of the details about their murders, because what little I did learn disturbed me so much I decided not to go any further.

I remember years ago my dad catching a local news story about the trial and mentioning the look in Channon Christian's father's eyes--like a man on fire.

I'm not going to share the details then, except to say I was born and raised in the metro Detroit area, and other than Stephen Grant murdering and dismembering his wife, Channon and Chris's murders were the most gruesome I've ever read about in recent years. Obviously it's not in the greatest part of Knoxville where they were killed ( right off Broadway), but that's relative the worst part of Kville doesn't even compare to the worst part of Detroit. But how human beings can do that to one another disgusts me

I want to go see the area where Blair Adams died next time I'm down which will be this spring. Do you know the whereabouts of that?

YES.... this one kills me. Here you had a missing person who seemingly had everything to look forward to. Even though his mom had passed away, he was a successful medical student and had a good relationship with the rest of his family and his girlfriend. I can literally think of no reason why a person would walk away from all that.

Apparently it had been only three weeks since his mother died of cancer when Brian disappeared. I can imagine that must have been horribly painful. But I can't imagine being so distraught over losing one family member that you decide to abandon the rest of your family to start a new life.

Last year when an article was posted on the ten year anniversary of his disappearance, this was mentioned in regards to Brian's girlfriend at the time...

Unlike most others familiar with the case, Alexis doesn't believe in one theory. She now is numb to emotions inherent in the case, and her continued interest is rooted more in curiosity.

Looking back, she finds it odd that a few days before that night in the bar, Brian told her to move on and find someone else, because he was struggling with his mom's death. And that a couple of weeks before that, he asked her to "just go away" with him.

Little tidbits but it throws out the possibility that his mother's death might have messed him up more than originally thought. Although you would think there would be some trace of him in the decade since.

To me, the bigger mystery is still how he got out of the bar. Unless I haven't read the right sources, other nearby buildings with security cameras would have caught him leaving the back exit to that building.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/04/01/unsolved-mystery-10-years-later-brian-shaffer-still-missing.html?start=2

I'm not going to share the details then, except to say I was born and raised in the metro Detroit area, and other than Stephen Grant murdering and dismembering his wife, Channon and Chris's murders were the most gruesome I've ever read about in recent years. Obviously it's not in the greatest part of Knoxville where they were killed ( right off Broadway), but that's relative the worst part of Kville doesn't even compare to the worst part of Detroit. But how human beings can do that to one another disgusts me

I don't see how one cannot be disgusted or angered by such brutal crimes, especially the murders of Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian. The perpetrators in that case are bunch of sick animals that need to be put to sleep. :mad:

I'm not going to share the details then, except to say I was born and raised in the metro Detroit area, and other than Stephen Grant murdering and dismembering his wife, Channon and Chris's murders were the most gruesome I've ever read about in recent years. Obviously it's not in the greatest part of Knoxville where they were killed ( right off Broadway), but that's relative the worst part of Kville doesn't even compare to the worst part of Detroit. But how human beings can do that to one another disgusts me

I want to go see the area where Blair Adams died next time I'm down which will be this spring. Do you know the whereabouts of that?

Yep. The hotel and gas station are on Straw Plains Pike, Exit 398 on I-40.

Yep. The hotel and gas station are on Straw Plains Pike, Exit 398 on I-40.

Sweet - thank you! I'm lucky to have a dad that has always encouraged my fascination with true crime stuff. We will hit there after he gets me at the airport!

I don't see how one cannot be disgusted or angered by such brutal crimes, especially the murders of Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian. The perpetrators in that case are bunch of sick animals that need to be put to sleep. :mad:

I completely agree, and I not a death penalty supporter. What got me is the female that was the ringleader. The lack of empathy or care for another human is disgusting

I completely agree, and I not a death penalty supporter. What got me is the female that was the ringleader. The lack of empathy or care for another human is disgusting

I'm very late to this case. I didn't hear about it until this thread so I looked it up and....I can't even find the right words to describe how disgusting it is.

Lack of empathy is an excellent fact to bring up. But humans putting other humans through days of torture like that before finally "finishing the job," makes me wonder about what other crimes these people could have done. Surely they must have killed before.

I'm very late to this case. I didn't hear about it until this thread so I looked it up and....I can't even find the right words to describe how disgusting it is.

Lack of empathy is an excellent fact to bring up. But humans putting other humans through days of torture like that before finally "finishing the job," makes me wonder about what other crimes these people could have done. Surely they must have killed before.

Off the top of my head ( so I could be mistaken) but I think the males had some petty charges prior to the murder, and the female kept her nose clean. But one never knows when someone will snap.

Then you have that jerk who killed his 4 kids and shot his wife, near you. He killed his pregnant girlfriend years ago, and they paroled him! Thank god the judge today put him away for life. This is part of a bigger dichotomy with the prison system- rehabilitation or punishment

Off the top of my head (so I could be mistaken) but I think the males had some petty charges prior to the murder, and the female kept her nose clean. But one never knows when someone will snap.

I'm trying to comprehend something that's incomprehensible. Maybe it's nothing more than snapping, like you said. Kind of like with the Gus Hoffman case on UM, it's the multiple days of torture before finishing the deed that I'm trying to understand. If you take that much delight in putting another human being through that kind of hell, I figure you must killed before.

Then you have that jerk who killed his 4 kids and shot his wife, near you. He killed his pregnant girlfriend years ago, and they paroled him! Thank god the judge today put him away for life. This is part of a bigger dichotomy with the prison system- rehabilitation or punishment

Good riddance to that guy going away. I agree he should have never been paroled in the first place.

Then you have that jerk who killed his 4 kids and shot his wife, near you. He killed his pregnant girlfriend years ago, and they paroled him! Thank god the judge today put him away for life. This is part of a bigger dichotomy with the prison system- rehabilitation or punishment[/QUOTE]

There needs to be 2 prison systems. 1 system for offenders who have committed such horrendous crimes that they will never be released into society again. The 2nd system has to be a form of punishment that also treats and educates. While incarcerated these offenders need to be contributing to society instead of being a drain on society. They will one day be back in society and so it's imperative systems are in place to reduce recidivism. Work, treatment, education.

There needs to be 2 prison systems. 1 system for offenders who have committed such horrendous crimes that they will never be released into society again. The 2nd system has to be a form of punishment that also treats and educates. While incarcerated these offenders need to be contributing to society instead of being a drain on society. They will one day be back in society and so it's imperative systems are in place to reduce recidivism. Work, treatment, education.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. There should be separate systems for those worthy of a shot at rehabilitation vs those who need to be kept away from society. Some people are beyond redemption.

I'm still listed here in Las Vegas but now I spend most of the year in Miami, my original home town.

There is one case Miami area case I can think of with some strange twists and underlying hints of cover up, at least on online forums. For whatever reason it never received much attention, even locally. I didn't read about it until maybe 5 years ago.

It is the Jean Marie Stewart case in Miami Lakes. Early '80s. She was a wild teenager from the Pittsburgh area who was temporarily living with her boyfriend's family in Miami Lakes. Her friends threw a party for her one night before she was scheduled to return to Pittsburgh. I think she was returning for a wedding, or some formal function. It's been a while since I refreshed on this case.

Anyway, she left the party and stopped at a nearby convenience store. The boyfriend supposedly went inside while Jean stayed in the car. Two minutes later he returned but she was gone. Gone for decades. Her remains were discovered a year later and not far away in Hialeah but somehow it took more than a quarter century to identify those remains. An online sleuth detected the key link when she saw emphasis of an overbite in both the description of Jean and also the description of the remains that had not been identified.

It got bizarre years ago when I was reading an online forum and the thread extended page after page. Lots of accusations that the boyfriend was actually a suspect but that it was being covered up since his mother was a local politician. Something like that. Jean's close friend had led the online search for years but suddenly she was accused of unethical practices like hacking online forums that had posts relating to Jean's case. I remember getting dizzy as the accusers went back and forth.

The Miami Lakes connection meant a great deal to me because I always enjoyed that area, especially as a teenager. The 826 (or Palmetto Expressway, as locals call it) makes a huge sweeping bend to the east, turning from a northbound freeway to eastbound. Miami Lakes is contained on the inside of that huge bend. It was always considered an upscale area, especially when I was growing up. There was a prominent championship course just inside the bend and also a decent par 3 course. Many Dolphin players during the '70s/80s heyday lived in Miami Lakes, including Don Shula. In fact, Shula opened his first steakhouse in Miami Lakes, although I believe that was much later, in the mid '90s.

It seems very odd that a missing person's case and possible abduction could take place in that area. There was a surge in crime in Miami in the early '80s due to the Mariel boatlift and other factors. But that was generally in the more vulnerable areas, like the airport. Hialeah, where the remains were found, does have many seedy areas, then and now.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. There should be separate systems for those worthy of a shot at rehabilitation vs those who need to be kept away from society. Some people are beyond redemption.

I agree with this as well. The majority of people in county jails are in there for drug related offenses. If there was a rehab program and a training program to help them not reoffend, it would save taxpayer money plus makenproductive members of society.

The 1991 Austin yogurt shop murders should have been on UM. It occurred in the same month as the murder of Colleen Reed, so naturally Kenneth McDuff was initially a suspect, but was later ruled out. It's still a cold case to this day, despite multiple confessions that were later determined to be false. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Austin_yogurt_shop_murders?wprov=sfla1

The 1991 Austin yogurt shop murders should have been on UM. It occurred in the same month as the murder of Colleen Reed, so naturally Kenneth McDuff was initially a suspect, but was later ruled out. It's still a cold case to this day, despite multiple confessions that were later determined to be false. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Austin_yogurt_shop_murders?wprov=sfla1

This one is a head scratcher. I wonder if it was the wrong details MacDuff gave that was the reason to rule him out.

That seems likely. Austin PD have been desperate to solve this case for 25+ years. If they thought he was responsible they'd have every reason to pin it on him and put this to rest. I thought they might have had DNA (this was also a sexual assault case) but I haven't heard that anything came of that either. If McDuff's DNA didn't match, that's not necessarily conclusive because he was known to work with a partner, as he did when he raped & murdered Colleen Reed.

Just an aside - at the time they finally arrested McDuff and charged him with Reed's murder, I think everyone in Austin felt 100% sure that he was responsible for the Yogurt Shop murders. Everything seemed to fit circumstantially: same month, both were sexual assaults as well as murders, he had targeted teenage girls in the past, and he was definitely in the area.

I am starting to feel like McDuff is the catch all suspect for rapes and murders when he wasn't in prison. Not that he wasn't capable of being a more prolific serial killer- it's just that he could fit so many unsolved murders. Kinda like Ted Bundy

The murder of Roxyann Allee. Allee was murder in Houston on September 30, 1991. She was an off duty Harris County Sherriff's deputy. She was shopping that evening at a Dillard's in Greenspoint Mall. She was abducted by two men from the mall and a few hours later, they found her minivan engulfed in flames just 10 minutes from the mall. Her body was found a short time after that just a half mile from the van. She had been shot three times in the head. To this day, her killers have never been found.

Greenspoint has earned the nickname "Gunspoint" for the better part of twenty years but a the time of this crime, it was not a bad area. Today, it is one of the city's worst. There have been recent updates on the case with the authorities "re-opening" it and offering a reward, but they are no closer to finding her killers today than they were 26 years ago. This would have been perfect for Unsolved Mysteries.

Here is a link to a recent story which includes a video of the news broadcast the week the murder occurred.

http://www.click2houston.com/news/large-reward-offered-in-1991-murder-case-of-deputy-roxyann-allee

I'm from Portland, OR and the Kyron Horman disappearance is definitely UM material. He went missing in 2008 and it was huge news. Still unsolved, though most people suspect his stepmother. It's a fascinating case.

The murder of Roxyann Allee. Allee was murder in Houston on September 30, 1991. She was an off duty Harris County Sherriff's deputy. She was shopping that evening at a Dillard's in Greenspoint Mall. She was abducted by two men from the mall and a few hours later, they found her minivan engulfed in flames just 10 minutes from the mall. Her body was found a short time after that just a half mile from the van. She had been shot three times in the head. To this day, her killers have never been found.

This was a professional hit. It will not be solved unless the hitmen or mastermind confesses. Her being a deputy at the county jail is why this hit was carried out. What the exact motive was is anyone's guess. Could be quite a few dangerous roads to navigate in this case. With how long it's been now who knows if the major players are still alive. My guess would be drugs and or misconduct at the jail

This was a professional hit. It will not be solved unless the hitmen or mastermind confesses. Her being a deputy at the county jail is why this hit was carried out. What the exact motive was is anyone's guess. Could be quite a few dangerous roads to navigate in this case. With how long it's been now who knows if the major players are still alive. My guess would be drugs and or misconduct at the jail

Are you familiar with this case? I agree with you that its been so long that the perpetrators are most likely dead or incarcerated for some other type of offense. Interesting angle with the professional hit. She wasn't high up in the HCSO but maybe she arrested the wrong person during one of her shifts. I always figured it was two random drug addicts that were looking to rob/carjack someone and when they found out she was law enforcement, they killed her.

I'm from Portland, OR and the Kyron Horman disappearance is definitely UM material. He went missing in 2008 and it was huge news. Still unsolved, though most people suspect his stepmother. It's a fascinating case.

Montana isn't far from Portland. It made news here, too. Such an odd disappearance. I agree with those who suspect the stepmother...

Montana isn't far from Portland. It made news here, too. Such an odd disappearance. I agree with those who suspect the stepmother...

Yeah, I think it was national news. I have a friend whose best friend's father worked for the Portland PD and apparently a recurrent theory is that he may have been sold into some sort of sex trafficking ring. The police were able to track her cell phone to Sauvie Island, which is just north of Portland on the Columbia. If that were the case, a ship could travel from there and be on international waters within a couple of hours. What really creeped me out about the case was the fact that the photo they used in the bulletins was taken within an hour of him disappearing. Very eerie.

Out of curiosity, where are you from in Montana? I see you have Patricia Meehan as your avatar, which is another case that's always fascinated me. My mom is from Billings and I have a lot of family in the eastern part of the state and have spent a lot of time there over the years.

Montana has quite a few odd cases itself. Have you heard of the Miranda Fenner murder? My great aunt and uncle lived in Laurel near Billings, and she was my cousins' babysitter. Someone stabbed her to death, quite brutally, in the video store there, and I don't think they've ever solved it. I remember seeing reward flyers in the town when we'd visit when I was a kid and being terrified of them.

Out of curiosity, where are you from in Montana? I see you have Patricia Meehan as your avatar, which is another case that's always fascinated me. My mom is from Billings and I have a lot of family in the eastern part of the state and have spent a lot of time there over the years.

Montana has quite a few odd cases itself. Have you heard of the Miranda Fenner murder? My great aunt and uncle lived in Laurel near Billings, and she was my cousins' babysitter. Someone stabbed her to death, quite brutally, in the video store there, and I don't think they've ever solved it. I remember seeing reward flyers in the town when we'd visit when I was a kid and being terrified of them.

I'm in central Montana, but I was born and raised in Western Montana. Pretty close to where Father Kerrigan disappeared in the 80's actually.... Despite that, I went to school at MSU-Bozeman and my husband is also from Eastern Montana. I *AM* familiar with the Miranda Fenner murder! I was a clerk at a convenience store in Bozeman around the same time she was murdered in Laurel, which is about 90 minutes to the east. The brutality of the crime makes me think she was killed by someone she knew, but I'm shocked that it's still unsolved all these years later. I'm not sure what poster you're speaking of... unless it's THIS one:

http://local.kulr8.com/fennerposter/mfenner.jpg

I'm in central Montana, but I was born and raised in Western Montana. Pretty close to where Father Kerrigan disappeared in the 80's actually.... Despite that, I went to school at MSU-Bozeman and my husband is also from Eastern Montana. I *AM* familiar with the Miranda Fenner murder! I was a clerk at a convenience store in Bozeman around the same time she was murdered in Laurel, which is about 90 minutes to the east. The brutality of the crime makes me think she was killed by someone she knew, but I'm shocked that it's still unsolved all these years later. I'm not sure what poster you're speaking of... unless it's THIS one:

http://local.kulr8.com/fennerposter/mfenner.jpg

Oy vey, yeah, I've seen that one. There was another photo of her that I remember being used in flyers that I'd see in the town. I went back there a few years ago to visit and still saw them occasionally. I think that's probably the worst crime that town has seen. The photos of her themselves aren't scary of course, but it just always really bothered me because I knew all of the grim details about what happened to her. My great aunt and uncle were actually eating at a restaurant next-door to the video store when she was murdered.

Montana has an interesting history of crime. I remember visiting the old state prison in Deer Lodge-- they used to have a museum there that was dedicated to the state's law enforcement. They've since shut the museum down, but I remember going there as a kid and they had this very creepy sculpted bust of a John Doe they had found wrapped in sheets and chains somewhere outside of Butte. I've looked all over the internet for details on that crime but have never been able to find anything on it.

I'm from Portland, OR and the Kyron Horman disappearance is definitely UM material. He went missing in 2008 and it was huge news. Still unsolved, though most people suspect his stepmother. It's a fascinating case.

I can't think about the case of Kyron without my blood absolutely boiling. It's always tragic when something bad happens to a child but it's so much worse when the person who is obviously responsible is the person that child should have been able to trust to take care of them. I know she wasn't his blood parent, but she was supposed to be someone he could count on to keep him safe.

I agree, kadrmaskb. I was always hoping they would cover Jacob Wetterling, but at least his case was solved.

I agree that the Chris Jenkins case would be a good one. It started off as another young drunk kid fell in the river, however there is a lot of evidence that he was murdered. It would make a great UM case.

Wasn't there a time period (within a year or two) where there were about 4 young men who were found dead in the river? Maybe a St. Cloud man too?

The disappearance of Tiffany Sessions in 1989. I grew up in Florida and this was a huge story at the time. It wasn't until 3 years ago that police finally named serial killer Paul Rowles as the suspect, but he already died in prison and her body has never been found.

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/the-lost-daughter-2/

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I can't think about the case of Kyron without my blood absolutely boiling. It's always tragic when something bad happens to a child but it's so much worse when the person who is obviously responsible is the person that child should have been able to trust to take care of them. I know she wasn't his blood parent, but she was supposed to be someone he could count on to keep him safe.
That's a sentiment shared by most people, especially locals. I think she was despised by just about every person in Portland, and probably the rest of the state too.

There's no doubt in my mind that Terri Horman was involved—too many odd things that simply do not add up. Her cell phone being tracked to Sauvie Island right after he disappeared speaks volumes. They did extensive searches of the island, but never did find anything to my knowledge. It's not a huge island, but it's big enough—roughly the size of Manhattan—but made up mostly of farms and wildlife. If he was murdered, I believe he was disposed of in the river and will probably never be found. It's either that, or he was sold into some sort of child sex trafficking and passed off to a boat or ship on the river. Portland has always had a seedy history of prostitution and sex trafficking that dates back to to the turn of the 20th century.

I remember seeing a news broadcast a few years ago stating that she had attempted to change her name but the judge dismissed her request. I believe she lives in Eugene, OR now, and is working as a mental health counselor, which is pretty disturbing in context.

The disappearance of Tiffany Sessions in 1989. I grew up in Florida and this was a huge story at the time. It wasn't until 3 years ago that police finally named serial killer Paul Knowles as the suspect, but he already died in prison and her body has never been found.

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/the-lost-daughter-2/

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I remember seeing the 48 Hours (or maybe it was Dateline) special on her disappearance. I really felt for her father. You could tell that he has not lived a single day of his life since she disappeared.

Yeah. He clearly never recovered from her disappearance/murder. He's basically just a broken man left in shambles to this day.

www.canadiangurl77.com

A site devoted to the disappearance of Trenny Lynn Gibson

The 1984 unsolved murder of Dawn Svocak. There was a person of interest, but there was no evidence. A person I know was actually questioned by police, because he worked at a junk yard, and the POI had sold his car to the junk yard. The police wanted to examine the car, but it had already been sent to the crusher.

Sue Swedell - a young woman who went missing in 1988 from Lake Elmo, Minnesota. The case is getting a lot of attention this year.

[URL="https://www.twincities.com/2018/01/06/lake-elmo-teenager-vanished-susan-swedell-cold-case-1998-30-years-ago/"URL]

Shelley Desrochers. Missing for 3 years now. One of atleast 3 missing in recent years.


https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/woman-starts-serial-podcast-to-investigate-the-disappearance-of-a-sex-worker-in-london-ont

Podcast mentioned in the article:
https://standupspeakup.podbean.com/e/episode-18-finding-shelley-desrochers-part-1-getting-to-know-shelley/

From a similar thread:

UM didn't even scratch the surface when it came to cases in the Cornhusker State. These are some of the more notable ones I could find.

Peak Family Murders (1972 - Grand Island)
https://www.pinow.com/articles/471/i...-1972-killings

Oliva Disappearance (1973 - Wilbur)
http://www.sewardindependent.com/wil...9bb30f31a.html

Webb Murder (1974 - Lincoln)
http://journalstar.com/patricia-webb...e1c5cd0f8.html

Morely Murder (1984 - Bellevue)
http://www.omaha.com/sarpy/bellevue/...23697116a.html

Cutshall Abduction (1987 - Norfolk)
http://charleyproject.org/cases/c/cutshall_jillian.html

Bennett Murder (1988 - Alma)
http://journalstar.com/news/local/ci...0c58282ad.html

Cronin Murder (1992 - Omaha)
http://journalstar.com/news/local/91...7537e2.html#30

Derrick Murder (1995 - North Platte)
http://www.nptelegraph.com/news/can-...fb7f1b3a1.html

Rowland Murder (1997 - Cozad)
http://nebraska.tv/archive/cold-case...a-leah-rowland

Bos Disappearance (2000 - Lincoln)
http://journalstar.com/news/local/91...a7537e2.html#4

A few weeks ago I was driving through the dark English country side. I saw a vape of fog rising in the road. At first I thought it was a person crossing the road so I slowed and flashed my bright lights. nothing was there....definitely worth getting some electromagnetic readings.

Kathleen Flynn

https://truecrimediva.com/kathleen-flynn-11-year-old-murdered-in-connecticut-in-1986/

The Oakland County Child Killer. He killed 4 children, 2 boys and 2 girls, between 1976 and 1977. They were all separately abducted off the streets in broad daylight and held for days. All of them were bathed and their clothes had been washed clean before they were taken out and killed, then left in snowbanks. This happened in southeast Michigan, about 15-20 miles from where I live and grew up.

There was an interesting fact regarding the final victim, Timothy King. After he disappeared, his parents were interviewed on the local news. His mother pleaded with the kidnapper for Tim to be reunited with the family so she could feed him his favorite dinner; Kentucky Fried Chicken. When Tim's body was found and exhumed, the contents of his stomach showed that he had been fed Kentucky Fried Chicken shortly before being killed.

I could see a case like this being featured on UM. I wasn't born yet when this all went down. My parents were newlyweds and they remember the news broadcasts. But I don't think this case got much local publicity through the years. I, personally, didn't hear of the case until I was in high school.

Unfortunately, after 40 years, the families still have no closure. There are possible suspects but nothing definite.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/defenders/oakland-county-child-killer-40-years-later

It is surprising that there isn't more coverage of the OCCK. Especially because there's a cover-up angle to the story.

Michelle Lee Rust (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/mom-vanishes-on-shopping-trip-for-sons-birthday) is one that I've always thought would have made a good UM segment. I'm acquainted with her husband.

It is surprising that there isn't more coverage of the OCCK. Especially because there's a cover-up angle to the story.

After watching the 4 episode 'Children in the Snow,' series on Investigation Discovery, my head felt like it was spinning. Especially in part when they made a possible connection the killer might have had to the pedophile ring on Fox Island.

I was also struck by a lack of sympathy some investigators had for the family members of the victims in recent years. Just because 42 years have passed, doesn't mean those wounds have healed.

Michelle Lee Rust (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/mom-vanishes-on-shopping-trip-for-sons-birthday) is one that I've always thought would have made a good UM segment. I'm acquainted with her husband.

I had never heard of this case but it sounds interesting. How well are you acquainted with the husband? The article you referenced sounds innocent enough, but after reading the Charley Project page on her, he sounds like he might be another Larry Race:

Dwight was the last person to see his wife before she vanished. He had reportedly had several extramarital affairs and Michelle was afraid that one of his girlfriends might hurt her. Dwight, who began dating Michelle when she was a freshman in high school and married her in 1997, maintains his innocence in his wife's disappearance and states he does not believe she left of her own free will. He filed for divorce from Michelle in 2007 and sought custody of their son.

I had never heard of this case but it sounds interesting. How well are you acquainted with the husband? The article you referenced sounds innocent enough, but after reading the Charley Project page on her, he sounds like he might be another Larry Race:

Not what I would consider well acquainted. Just works for a company that does business with the company I work for. And the police have only ruled out 2 people as suspects, both of her parents. When you read between the lines of most of the local reporting, the majority of people think he had something to do with it.

I have mentioned this on the board before but I reiterate that the Sydney River McDonalds murders of 1992 would have been the perfect case for UM, mostly because it was unsolved for a while and was such a senseless, brutal crime. As well, just like most UM cases the perps were caught, convicted and have since been released. It was very similar to the Las Cruses Bowling Alley murders in that the victims were the textbook definitions of innocent victims that were senselessly killed in a robbery.

Another quality case would be the disappearance of Kimberley McAndrew. It happened in 1988 and she has never been found, nor has a suspect ever been (officially) made public. This case would have been perfect because there were other murders of young women in Nova Scotia around that time and it could have given the police force the black eye it deserved for bungling the case.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/26/us/christy-mirack-slaying-update-trnd/index.html

Christy Mirack was a teacher from my school district that was murdered in 1992. It went unsolved for more than 20 years, but they just recently solved the case -- By using DNA found at the scene and running it through genealogy websites, just like they did with the Golden State Killer.

https://subscriber.thenewsenterprise.com/content/who-killed-elena-sanchez-hawkins

This cold case is interesting because of the potential ties to another violent attack nearby and it seems like it could be solved based on the evidence and description of the truck at the scene of the crime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Maria_Ridulph

Maria Ridulph's murder, reportedly the oldest cold case murder to be solved in Illinois. But the conviction was overturned in 2016 after a review of the evidence determined that the suspect had been wrongfully convicted, and he was declared innocent in 2017.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Maria_Ridulph

Maria Ridulph's murder, reportedly the oldest cold case murder to be solved in Illinois. But the conviction was overturned in 2016 after a review of the evidence determined that the suspect had been wrongfully convicted, and he was declared innocent in 2017.

Wow, I saw this case on 48 Hours "Cold as Ice". The girl who was with Maria at the time who had seen thousands of lineups over the years positively identified McCullough. Along with the sick things his sister said he had done to them which he never denied, I really thought the conviction was justified. Sad case either way.

https://www.mlive.com/news/bay-city/2010/12/update_father_of_victim_in_199.html

This is a local hit-and-run case that pops up every few years. The driver at one point sent an apology letter to the family. It has all the right pieces for a segment.

MIDLAND — Richard McRoberts says the hit-and-run driver who left his son to die 19 years ago today has suffered long enough.

Gregory S. McRoberts was struck while riding his bicycle about 7 p.m. Dec. 12, 1991, near his home at 1862 S. Meridian in Lee Township, said Sheriff Jerry Nielsen.

Police found McRoberts’ body Jan. 4, 1992. The 24-year-old Lee Township man was partially submerged in a ditch on the west side of South Meridian south of Bradford, said Nielsen.

Investigators today released a two-page anonymous letter apparently written by the mystery driver more than five years ago.

The disappearance of Pamela Hobley and Patricia Spencer. They were two high-school students from Oscoda, a small town in northern Michigan, who disappeared on Halloween night 1969 and haven't been heard from since. They were on their way to a homecoming football game and a Halloween party, but apparently never showed up at the party. Both girls had reportedly experimented with drugs and there was speculation that they'd run away voluntarily, but apparently they were making positive changes in their lives and also didn't take their purses or anything else with them when they left. Hobley was also reportedly engaged to be married. Investigators believe both girls were murdered, but their bodies have never been found.

Don't think they ever featured the 1966 murder of Valerie Percy daughter of the late Senator Charles Percy.

The murder of Debra O'Quinn in Jacksonville, Florida it's been a cold case since 1979.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/02137463c636b9de0b8750fe5705252c/tumblr_p4deng9AwY1ur1at4o1_1280.jpg

On May 7, 1979, she and her dad went out together to look at cars to buy. When he dropped her off around 9 pm at her apartment, he waited untill she got inside, turned on the lights, and let him know everything was okay before leaving.

When Karen Benton, Debra’s roommate, arrived at the apartment next morning, Debra wasn’t home. But Karen’s brother, Thomas Chapman, was asleep on the couch. When she asked him about Debra, Thomas said he hadn’t seen her; he’d showed up at around 3 am and, according to him, the apartment was empty.

The thing is, there was clear evidence something bad had happened. There was blood not only in Debra’s room, but also in the bathroom and some smears on the walls and the carpet, which also had drag marks. Thomas said he thought there had been some sort of accident, but apparently it wasn’t enough to get him to call someone. One of the detectives later said Thomas had explained he thought it was “menstrual blood” and had attempted to clean it up before going to sleep. The cop is quoted in an old newspaper saying “he’s just awfully naive.”

Let’s stop here for one second. I can maybe believe that in 1979 a young man would be that clueless about menstruation, but if that were the case, would he be willing to clean it up?

One of Debra’s neighbors told police that on that night she’d noticed a lot of movement over at her apartment. The lights were on and a male figure was walking all over. The neighbor later saw the man carrying something out of the apartment, and it could have been Debra.

Debra remained missing for 218 days, until her body was found on December 10 among some bushes. The medical examiner determined she had died from stab wounds, but there wasn’t much more they could get from her skeletal remains. Police found a serrated knife in Thomas’ vehicle, which was tested and contained bone fragments, but it was impossible, at the time at least, to determine if they were even human.

At one point, serial killer Henry Lee Lucas claimed responsibility for killing Debra. But as it was often the case with him, he knew almost no details about the murder and was just lying.

The case remains unsolved but has been recently reopened and new technology will be applied to test the evidence they have.

Occasionally my Mother will refer to the apartment complex as "Debra's place" being as she was in school with her at the time.

The Oakland County Child Killer. He killed 4 children, 2 boys and 2 girls, between 1976 and 1977. They were all separately abducted off the streets in broad daylight and held for days. All of them were bathed and their clothes had been washed clean before they were taken out and killed, then left in snowbanks. This happened in southeast Michigan, about 15-20 miles from where I live and grew up.

There was an interesting fact regarding the final victim, Timothy King. After he disappeared, his parents were interviewed on the local news. His mother pleaded with the kidnapper for Tim to be reunited with the family so she could feed him his favorite dinner; Kentucky Fried Chicken. When Tim's body was found and exhumed, the contents of his stomach showed that he had been fed Kentucky Fried Chicken shortly before being killed.

I could see a case like this being featured on UM. I wasn't born yet when this all went down. My parents were newlyweds and they remember the news broadcasts. But I don't think this case got much local publicity through the years. I, personally, didn't hear of the case until I was in high school.

Unfortunately, after 40 years, the families still have no closure. There are possible suspects but nothing definite.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/defenders/oakland-county-child-killer-40-years-later

That would have been an amazing segment and it may have worked, too, although the main suspect is now dead.

I know it's since been solved, but I'm surprised UM never profiled the murders of Kristin & Kati Lisk and Sofia Silva. That was a huge topic of discussion when I was younger, that's really when I got my first serious "stranger danger" talk, it happened about an hour from me.

D'wan Sims His mom was very shady! She definitely knows more than she is saying publicly, plus she failed every lie detector test. I live in Metro Detroit

I think of him every time I drive by the old Wonderland mall area. Although I don’t think he was ever at the mall. I wonder if the DNA results have come back on the guy who claims to be Dwan

I just did a search and all i found was articles talking about the DNA test but no results yet. I go to the old mall now named Wonderland village daily

I grew up near where Johnny Gosch and Eugene Martin, two paperboys in Des Moines, IA, were abducted. Another boy, Marc Allen, went missing after Eugene. He wasn't a paperboy and he was abducted at dusk rather than first thing in the morning. I was always surprised that they were never profiled. Especially because Johnny's mother Noreen was very vocal about his kidnapping. I think if there had been any kind of suspect in either case they might have been more likely to be profiled on UM. There was literally nothing to go on.

I came waaaaaaay late to discovering the Johnny Gosch story but I watched the 2014 documentary 'Who took Johnny?' on Amazon Prime earlier this year and I have been completely fascinated and troubled with the case ever since. There are so many twists and turns throughout the years that you're bound to get whiplash.

But the thing that still astounds me the most is Johnny's mother Noreen's revelation that Johnny came to her house in the middle of the night in 1997, 15 years after he had been abducted, now 27 years old, accompanied by another man that he didn't introduce. The fact that he stayed for about an hour and said "they'll kill me if they know I've been here," referring to powerful people connected to the sex trafficking ring, how they trafficked the kids throughout the country and how the kids were forced to do a lot of things that were illegal so therefore none of them would go to the police for help....the fact that Noreen kept this reunion secret for a couple years because she felt nobody would believe her and finally revealed it only because she was asked under oath if she had seen her son since his abduction...my head just spins over the concept of this whole thing.

This feels like a story that SHOULD have been on Unsolved Mysteries. But I feel the subject matter involves theories that might have been....maybe a little too uncomfortable or controversial for the time? Yes, UM featured cases involving abductions, murders, robberies, rape, etc. But the concept of pedophile rings and child sex trafficking was so foreign to people in the 80's and into the 90s that maybe UM decided not to touch it? I don't know. Just a guess.

When this case broke in my hometown it made me think of Unsolved Mysteries instantly. An elderly retired black man went missing in 1984. He simply went to the store and never returned. In 2017 his vehicle was found in a pond under a bridge. He was inside the car dead in the driver's seat. He had been there 33 years. Very erie.



BUENA VISTA TOWNSHIP (WJRT) - (08/22/17) - There are still more questions than answers after a man's remains were found inside a car submerged in a Buena Vista Township pond.

A contractor for the Michigan Department of Transportation discovered a 1973 Buick Electra while diving in the pond on Aug. 15. The contractor was cleaning up barrels found in the pond.

Police had the car removed from the pond, then discovered the remains.

D/Sgt. Greg Klecker, with the Buena Vista Township Police Department, said they believe the remains are Julius Colwye. The 61 year old was reported missing in October of 1984.

A key piece of evidence included in the original 1984 missing person file helped identify him.

"What you do at the front end of a case investigation can really be valuable, just like today," Klecker said. "We look at, and we rely on, the original work that a detective did, and we're grateful for the work that detective did."

Nearly 33 years ago, a detective added Colwye's dental records to his file, just in case.

While investigators can't say the remains are positively those of Colwye's, the dental records, which do not include x-rays, are consistent with those of the remains. The Buick Electra also was Colwye's.

Now the focus shifts from identification to cause of death.

Since the beginning, Colwye's disappearance has been considered suspicious.

"They suspected foul play because why would he voluntarily just go missing," Klecker said.

Disappearing was out of character for Colwye, who many people called Pete, instead of his given name of Julius.

Back in the day, detectives searched several places for Colwye.

"They did drag the river," Klecker said.

Klecker is now trying to track down aerial photos of the land from the '80s.

"Vehicle was found in that pond in, you know, a certain position. We're just trying to figure out from a logistics standpoint, how did it end up in that position," he said.

Klecker also wants to talk to people who knew Colwye before he disappeared, so he can finish what the other detectives started.

"They did everything they could, they exhausted their efforts and at a certain point the case goes cold, and then you still don't have any discoveries, then it's a mystery," Klecker said.

A particularly brutal killing exactly 40 years ago in April 1981 in a cabin at the Sierra Nevada community of Keddie.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9e/a8/bc/9ea8bc99412bf6e8b6308e0d922830e4.jpg


A Mother, her Daughter and Son and his male friend were brutally killed in a Cabin in the middle of nowhere. 3 of the bodies were discovered in the Cabin the following morning by another Daughter who had been staying elsewhere the night before. The remains of the 4th victim (The Daughter) were discovered 3 years later in another location.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5e/Keddie_murders_victims.jpg/240px-Keddie_murders_victims.jpg

The Mother's younger 2 sons and another boy were asleep in a nearby bedroom during the killings.

Later on one of these boys claimed to have seen two men in the cabin arguing with the victims and under hypnosis helped created these rather amateurish composites.

Whilst there's been suspects, no one has ever been formally charged and it's terrible 2 monsters could carry out such a sick act and be walking around scot-free for 4 decades!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/Keddie_murders_suspects.jpg

The "Lady in the Lake" murder from Baltimore.

https://baltimorefishbowl.com/stories/lady-in-the-lake-the-mysterious-death-of-sphinx-barmaid-shirley-parker/

On June 2, 1969, an electrical crew was dispatched by the Baltimore County Bureau of Highways to repair two burned-out lights in the fountain at the center of Druid Park Lake. The first man to climb the ladder and look down over the rim made a gruesome discovery: The body of a woman was lying face down in about two feet of water in a depression inside the top of the fountain. The body was quickly identified as that of Shirley Lee Wigeon Parker, a 35-year-old African-American divorcee, who’d disappeared five weeks earlier “under mysterious circumstances,” according to The Baltimore Evening Sun.

Shirley Parker was a bookkeeper, barmaid, and waitress at Baltimore’s famous Sphinx Club. Beautiful, vivacious and popular, she was a secretary in a branch of the Urban League and volunteered for the NAACP. She’d been married twice, first to a man who lived in Pennsylvania, and then to a disk jockey named Joe Parker, who owned a record store on Edmondson Avenue. She was the mother of two sons, one who lived with his father in Pennsylvania and a second, David, who lived with Shirley and her mother.

The story of Shirley Parker’s last evening contains some contradictions. Most agree she was last seen on the evening of April 23, 1969, fashionably dressed in brown hip-hugger slacks, a yellow, orange and white print blouse, a rust-colored coat and pile-lined, knee-length boots. At the time, she’d been dating (and supporting) a 33-year-old man named Arno West. The night she disappeared, Mrs. Parker had gone to meet friends at a bar on Pennsylvania Avenue where, during the evening, she’d learned that Arno West had used her paycheck to buy a pants suit for another girlfriend, a woman who worked for the Social Security Administration.

According to witnesses, Shirley stormed out of the bar around midnight and went directly to Gwynns Falls Parkway, where West lived with his mother. Neighbors say they heard the couple arguing loudly on the porch. West later told police that Shirley was “very upset,” but denied the claim that he gave her “a nasty blow.” After their fight, however, the couple seems to have calmed down. West took Shirley out to another bar, then to visit friends. According to the Afro-American newspaper, “Mrs. Parker seemed angered about some matter and that he took her for a drive to cool off.”
After the drive, West said Shirley asked him to drop her off her in Druid Hill Park, near the lake. “After she got out of the car on Cloverdale Road, near the park, and started walking, he told police he became worried and followed her,” reported the newspaper, adding that before he drove off, West noticed Shirley climbing over the 15-foot-high iron railing around the lake. He returned to the scene, then “he handed her purse to her after she was persuaded not to enter the lake.” He then drove her home, according to West, though Shirley’s mother, Theresa Wright, said Shirley never came home that night. Later that week, according to West, he noticed Shirley’s purse hanging from the inside of the railing surrounding the lake in Druid Hill Park and reported it to the police.

Those who knew her say Shirley Parker just wasn’t the kind of person to leave home with no explanation, and her family was immediately alarmed. A nationwide search led to sightings as far away as California. One woman claimed she’d seen Shirley in Baltimore the morning after she was reported missing. A Baltimore medium said she was getting vibrations in the case and promised she’d soon have an answer. She predicted that Shirley’s death “will soon reveal one of the most horrible crimes in history.” Three weeks later, baffled by the lack of clues, the police dragged the lake in Druid Hill Park, but no body was found.

That’s because Shirley’s body wasn’t in the lake, but in the fountain, where it was discovered on June 2. But what was she doing in the fountain, and how did she get there? Her body too decomposed for the coroner to determine the means of death, only to rule out several causes. She wasn’t strangled or stabbed, and she hadn’t used narcotics. “There were no needle marks, and we were particularly interested in whether she died this way,” said Dr. Edward Wilson, an assistant medical examiner, in an interview with the Afro-American. Dr. Ronald Kornblum, also an assistant medical examiner, reported to the Afro-American that the body showed no gunshot wounds, but it was “possible other indications of foul play had been washed or decayed away.” The recorded verdict was death by hypothermia, though Kornblum admits, “it is possible she was drowned before she was placed in the fountain,” though not possible that she drowned herself.

Maura Murray would have been a great case.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Maura_Murray

James "Jimmy" Cole (https://charleyproject.org/case/james-arthur-cole) went missing back in 1994 and I cannot stress enough at how insane it is that he has never been found. There is a bike trail that is at the center of his disappearance that I constantly run on, and from where he was last seen to where he lived was less than a 5 minute walk. He was last seen drinking at a restaurant/bar at 1:30 a.m. in the morning, and when the employees started to close down, he left, presumably to head home. He's never been found. Looking at this (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/566+Governor+Ritchie+Hwy,+Severna+Park,+MD+21146/La+Posta+Pizzeria/39.0761283,-76.5524286/@39.076642,-76.5499736,16.5z/data=!4m15!4m14!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7f97f7a8bcb8f:0x531eb6f629d044b3!2m2!1d-76.545379!2d39.076092!1m5!1m1!1s0x0:0xe96f687fbeeda9fe!2m2!1d-76.5480425!2d39.0776325!1m0!3e2) map and you can see all of the pertinent locations from that night. He left one restaurant and headed to another closer to his home, before leaving. He was known to sometimes (https://www.capitalgazette.com/cg2-arc-b67951eb-737d-5c95-b064-4895298a97c1-20120416-story.html) sleep out in the woods. The problem is, if he somehow died from exposure, alcohol poisoning, etc., why hasn't his body ever been found? As you can see, there aren't any real wooded areas around where he could go unnoticed (and the area has remain largely unchanged since 1994). His family searched the routes he would have taken home, and nothing. The guy simply vanished into thin air.

I came waaaaaaay late to discovering the Johnny Gosch story but I watched the 2014 documentary 'Who took Johnny?' on Amazon Prime earlier this year and I have been completely fascinated and troubled with the case ever since. There are so many twists and turns throughout the years that you're bound to get whiplash.

But the thing that still astounds me the most is Johnny's mother Noreen's revelation that Johnny came to her house in the middle of the night in 1997, 15 years after he had been abducted, now 27 years old, accompanied by another man that he didn't introduce. The fact that he stayed for about an hour and said "they'll kill me if they know I've been here," referring to powerful people connected to the sex trafficking ring, how they trafficked the kids throughout the country and how the kids were forced to do a lot of things that were illegal so therefore none of them would go to the police for help....the fact that Noreen kept this reunion secret for a couple years because she felt nobody would believe her and finally revealed it only because she was asked under oath if she had seen her son since his abduction...my head just spins over the concept of this whole thing.

This feels like a story that SHOULD have been on Unsolved Mysteries. But I feel the subject matter involves theories that might have been....maybe a little too uncomfortable or controversial for the time? Yes, UM featured cases involving abductions, murders, robberies, rape, etc. But the concept of pedophile rings and child sex trafficking was so foreign to people in the 80's and into the 90s that maybe UM decided not to touch it? I don't know. Just a guess.


The Vanished episode on Johnny Gosch (hosted by Beth Holloway) is what got me interested in this case. It is quite good as well. Immediately after seeing it, I tried to watch as much stuff as I could about the case. Noreen's recollection of a clandestine meeting with an adult Johnny is just bizarre to say the least. I feel so sorry for her, but I think she may be delusional. Johnny's father does not believe the meeting happened. That said, I do not discount Paul Bonacci's claims. I don't believe the photographs were of Johnny, but I don't dismiss Bonacci as an attention-seeking kook either. The one claim that kind of bugs me is that Johnny was the first person to appear on a milk carton. Etan Patz was on a milk carton a couple years before Johnny. The milk carton claim is made on Vanished . I don't recall if it is made on Who Took Johnny

How Cherrie Mahan never made it to UM perplexes me to this day. This happened about an hour from me.

The major case that stands out to me is the Ashley Pond/Miranda Gaddis murders. It may have been profiled on UM, but I can't quite remember. Fortunately the case has since been solved, but it was a particularly hard time for us here in Oregon City.

Here are a few of mine I’ve lived in Missouri, Kansas, Illinois and Indiana

1. The Springfield Three how UM did not jump on this case immediately just baffles me they literally had ten years to cover this case but never did it would’ve been perfect with Robert stacks voice

2. Angie Housman i know it’s mentioned on the UM fandom page but she also was never featured she was found tied to a tree luckily her killer was found living in Colorado in 2019 thanks to DNA

3. Randy Wayne Leach. I think could’ve been a great re-enactment

4. Darden Family Murders i think this would’ve made a great re-enactment with Stacks voice

5. Tammy Zywicki murder

6. Darlene Hulse she was abducted from her home around 9am in front of her three young children by an unidentified man posing as a delivery driver she was dragged out of her house thrown into an old car and then found murdered the next day. https://medium.com/true-crime-by-cat-leigh/intruder-brutally-attacks-mother-in-front-of-children-3c33f15ad051

7. Joe Bova was murdered after his car exploded because of a bomb someone left under it. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1989-10-10-8901200807-story.html

8. The I-65 Killer now known as Harry Greenwell and he could possibly be the I-70 killer as well https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Edward_Greenwell

9. Not in my area but i always felt like they should’ve done Kelly Bergh Dove abduction along with Jason Jolkowski disappearance and Asha Degree Disappearance. https://charleyproject.org/case/kelly-bergh-dove

10. For a wanted fugitive I’m surprised they never did John McGrath who killed his entire family in 1962 and then escaped and hasn’t been found. https://second.wiki/wiki/john_william_mcgrath

I am watching Investigative Reports hosted by Bill Curtis. There is a feature on the Texas Killing Fields, AKA the I-45 killer(s). Multiple young women and girls were abducted and murdered in the Houston-Galveston corridor from the 1970's to the 1990's. To my knowledge UM never linked any of these murders together to focus on a possible serial killer or multiple killers in that area. Although I do wonder if some of the single features in that area, like Tara Breckinridge or Rhonda Johnson and Sharon Shaw could be related. Michael Self was possibly wrongfully convicted for Rhonda and Sharon's murders and another UM featured serial criminal, Edward H. Bell apparently confessed to their murders and several other murders in that area. I actually think that Edward Bell fits the profile of someone who could have abducted Tara Breckenridge, whether he followed her from her night club or he merely passed her on 610 and stopped to abduct her.

I am watching Investigative Reports hosted by Bill Curtis. There is a feature on the Texas Killing Fields, AKA the I-45 killer(s). Multiple young women and girls were abducted and murdered in the Houston-Galveston corridor from the 1970's to the 1990's. To my knowledge UM never linked any of these murders together to focus on a possible serial killer or multiple killers in that area. Although I do wonder if some of the single features in that area, like Tara Breckinridge or Rhonda Johnson and Sharon Shaw could be related. Michael Self was possibly wrongfully convicted for Rhonda and Sharon's murders and another UM featured serial criminal, Edward H. Bell apparently confessed to their murders and several other murders in that area. I actually think that Edward Bell fits the profile of someone who could have abducted Tara Breckenridge, whether he followed her from her night club or he merely passed her on 610 and stopped to abduct her.

I've always been of the opinion that there isnt just one I-45 killer. I think its multiple people. As far as the fields go, I think it was just such a perfect place for bodies to be dumped and then legend of it kinda took off.

The disappearance of Roger “Butch” Pratt occurred in the town where I was born. It would have made a great UM story had it not been solved in October 1989, when the show was still in its youth. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1990/01/27/murder-among-friends-two-live-at-a-crossroads/d81b3303-30c5-4a89-b41e-8eec36473fe6/

The still-unsolved disappearance of Sandra Kay Baker took place in May 2000, and would have been a good fit for UM’s then-upcoming Lifetime era. I wonder if Lifetime would have made more original segments had Robert Stack lived a while longer. https://charleyproject.org/case/sandra-kay-baker