Robert 13
02-01-2017, 05:11 PM
Since they have remastered the series now for Antenna TV, is there a possibility that the rest of the series will see the light of day on DVD?
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View Full Version : Will they release more on dvd? Robert 13 02-01-2017, 05:11 PM Since they have remastered the series now for Antenna TV, is there a possibility that the rest of the series will see the light of day on DVD? 1960'sTVfan 02-01-2017, 06:28 PM Anything is possible, but at this moment I would say that more DVD's of this show is unlikely. Now if Antenna TV would report that their airings of the episodes are getting great ratings, that might motivate a studio to take a chance and issue more DVD's. And I don't know if the episodes were remastered for Antenna TV, the color episodes sure don't look remastered, maybe the black and white episodes have been remastered but I don't know. Robert 13 03-07-2017, 02:36 PM I hope so. I haven't seen them on Antenna TV yet. I like to watch commercial free on dvd. LOL! I'm so old-school in that way. 1960'sTVfan 05-21-2017, 10:04 AM From Antenna TV I have recorded and transferred to DVD all the episodes from seasons 1, 3 and 4. Audio and video quality is outstanding, 10 out of 10 quality. Didn't need to record season 2 because I have the retail DVD set. These Antenna TV airings are far from perfect because the episodes are edited and they have that lousy split screen nonsense with the end credits, but these are better to have than nothing unless the rest of the series gets issued on retail DVD, which I don't expect will happen anytime soon. 1960'sTVfan 07-22-2017, 03:58 PM I did find a problem with one episode on the season 2 DVD set released by Questar. One episode is edited, it's episode #23, titled Joey's House Guest. What's missing on the DVD is the first minute or so of the episode, funny banter between Joey Bishop and Joe Besser. I don't know why Questar cut that part out. But fortunately, when Antenna TV airs this episode they show the beginning scene complete in it's entirety, including the part that's missing on the DVD. So I recorded it and now have the full episode. :) Svenfan1234 03-13-2018, 03:44 PM Now available: :) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BFFYW52/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1520970208&sr=8-2&keywords=the+joey+bishop+show+complete+series BigManMike 03-13-2018, 06:53 PM You beat me to it Adamantium 03-14-2018, 07:15 AM It's already currently unavailable. I intend to buy this series as it's one of my favorites from the '60s. I used to watch it every morning on TV Land before going to school. I still haven't seen the first season (despite Antenna showing it), so it'll be good to see but I'm more excited for the seasons I know of, which have Joe Besser. I also hope this doesn't have the same problem the Questar release did. They used the theme song ONCE at the beginning of each disc, so basically the episodes didn't include the opening credits. That always ticked me off and was the reason I couldn't enjoy that release. Robert 13 03-14-2018, 10:19 AM I also hope this doesn't have the same problem the Questar release did. They used the theme song ONCE at the beginning of each disc, so basically the episodes didn't include the opening credits. That always ticked me off and was the reason I couldn't enjoy that release. I agree, Adamantium! Hopefully, it was just the way Questar authored the dvd and since they are not involved this time, it should be done properly. I ordered my set already. Hoping to receive confirmation that it has shipped soon. I bought it directly from ClassicFlix.com. Amazon's "currently unavailable" crap I have seen several times with other releases and it takes a while before they are actually "in stock". It happened with "It's About Time" and "Angie". Hoping this is done right this time since this is probably the last attempt at seeing this series on dvd. 1960'sTVfan 03-14-2018, 11:40 AM Wow, this news just made my day :), thanks Svenfan for the heads up. I ordered it too direct from ClassicFlix. Would be great if the missing episode from season 3 is included, the one with Vaughn Meader, but as far as I know that episode is gone for good. Not knowing anything in advance about this release, but I'm assuming the episodes are all uncut, hopefully there are no disappointments. Season 3 has several episodes with music, the Bobby Rydell episode, the Vic Damone episode, the Jack Jones episode, the Andy Williams episode, the Andrews Sisters episode, so I'm keeping fingers crossed that all the episodes are complete and uncut. Since Antenna TV has been airing the show, I had been wondering if the complete series DVD might be released at some point. With the Antenna TV airings, I've noticed that some of the color episodes from seasons 2 and 3 seem to have been restored/re-furbished, colors appear brighter and more vivid. So I wonder if these restored versions ended up on the DVD set. For me, the only downer about this is that all the work I put in to record all the episodes from Antenna and transfer them to DVD's won't be needed anymore, as long as this retail DVD set has been done properly. Looking forward to the DVD set, I'll post comments after I receive it and check out some episodes. Hazel Anyday 03-14-2018, 06:56 PM Speaking of color, today was my day to watch the J.B.S. and I saw episode 12 from 2nd season, "Honeymoon Is Over", I recorded this from Antenna TVs first broadcast of Joey on their New Years Marathon, anyway here's the problem. In this one Joey's wife, Mildred, or whatever her name is, is she played by Juliet Prowse? I always get her and the other actress mixed up they look alike. Anyway the wife puts this, what looks like, shaving cream all over her face but in this Antenna broadcast it was colored green, even though she describes it as being made with lemons. Even the juice on the table, I assume it's orange juice, they're eating breakfast, even the juice is green! Now I have not re-recorded the color shows since someone said they were re-done, maybe I should, at any rate I wonder in the supposed re-done/re-mastered color version is this green shaving cream and green orange juice problem fixed? Is it now yellow and orange respectively as they should be?? This is the "Honeymoon Is Over" 2.12 episode. 1960'sTVfan 03-14-2018, 08:12 PM From what I have seen, some of the season 2 and 3 episodes look to have had color restoration work, but not all of them. The 2nd season episode "Honeymoon Is Over", the only version I've seen is the one where the cream on Joey's wife's face has the green color. I don't know if this episode has since had color restoration work done to it or not. Will be interesting to see what the episodes look like on this new complete series DVD set. I just hope that all the episodes will be uncut. My fear is that some episodes might be edited because of music. Hopefully all episodes are complete with no cuts or edits. Keeping fingers crossed. Joey's wife Ellie was played by Abby Dalton. Hazel Anyday 03-14-2018, 09:03 PM Thanks for that, that's right, for some reason Abby Dalton and Juliet Prowse always get confused with me. I guess cause I think they look so much alike. If you re-recorded the color shows and the cream is still green in the "new" version (if there is a new version) that's bad news. Yes, I guess the only hope now is that the commercial release will have been Restored and remastered color. I started watching this show about 4 months ago, I'm still in the middle of the New Years marathon showings. So far, I have to tell you, this is not the best show I've ever seen. In fact Joey is the worst part of the whole show, that stupid hang-dog face of his never changes, might as well have a stone statue as the star. There are things I do like for instance Joe Besser and Madge Blake are always great and even the young (though not that hot, in this series) Marlo Thomas are features to tune in for. Seems Marlo and Madge are gone now at least in this 2nd season. So now all I see each week is Hang-dog.:( (I watch this show once a week like all the rest of the sitcoms I watch each week. 1960'sTVfan 03-14-2018, 09:41 PM Everyone has their opinion, I've become a big Joey Bishop Show fan since Antenna TV started running the episodes. I will admit that Joey's deadpan style can take some getting used to, but he is very funny sometimes. A great example of this is the 3rd season episode "Joey The Comedian vs. Larry The Writer". In the episode, Joey's comedy writer Larry wins an award for best comedy writer, but poor Joey only placed 12th as best comedian. This starts to irritate Joey and he gradually starts doing a slow burn, then blows his top at the mid part of the episode where he fires Larry, then he also fires his housekeeper Hilda and even fires his wife Ellie! :eek: LOL it is hysterical, I love it :lol: :lol:. Joe Besser is great in this show, his zany ways are the perfect counter-balance to Joey Bishop's serious deadpan style. If the complete series DVD is everything that I hope it is with all uncut episodes, for me it will be the DVD release of the year, hands down no doubt about it. Robert 13 03-15-2018, 01:31 PM Wow, this news just made my day :), thanks Svenfan for the heads up. I ordered it too direct from ClassicFlix. Would be great if the missing episode from season 3 is included, the one with Vaughn Meader, but as far as I know that episode is gone for good. Regarding the Vaughn Meader episode, I was wondering the same thing. Up until now, we never thought we would ever see Season 1. Then, surprisingly, it resurfaced for the Antenna TV schedule and ultimately this dvd release. I am doubtful that the Vaughn Meader episode will be included though as, technically, it was not a part of the original airing of the series. If it was, in fact, destroyed, it's a shame because it is historically significant to television as well as the political tragedy at the time it was pulled from the schedule. Even Vaughn Meader's JFK comedy albums have been re-issued on cd since then. It would make sense that they would release the series on dvd following efforts and funds for restoration. It may have propelled their decision in making it available commercially for sale. But who knows? We'll know for sure when we have it in our hands. Hoping for a wonderful restoration job! :) 1960'sTVfan 03-15-2018, 02:19 PM Regarding the Vaughn Meader episode, I was wondering the same thing. Up until now, we never thought we would ever see Season 1. Then, surprisingly, it resurfaced for the Antenna TV schedule and ultimately this dvd release. I am doubtful that the Vaughn Meader episode will be included though as, technically, it was not a part of the original airing of the series. If it was, in fact, destroyed, it's a shame because it is historically significant to television as well as the political tragedy at the time it was pulled from the schedule. Even Vaughn Meader's JFK comedy albums have been re-issued on cd since then. It would make sense that they would release the series on dvd following efforts and funds for restoration. It may have propelled their decision in making it available commercially for sale. But who knows? We'll know for sure when we have it in our hands. Hoping for a wonderful restoration job! :) Yes, the Vaughn Meader episode was supposed to air, but NBC pulled it and supposedly had the episode destroyed. If that's what happened it's unfortunate, but it was a very sensitive situation at the time considering the JFK tragedy. From watching the episodes on Antenna TV, some season 3 episodes look to have had color restoration work, but not all of them. Will be interesting to see what the episodes look like on the DVD set. For me, I'm not as much concerned about the color restoration thing, I just want all the episodes to be complete and uncut. Season 3 especially has several episodes with music, so I hope none of those episodes are edited. If any episode or episodes are cut/edited, I won't be a happy camper. I usually wait for quality reports before buying DVD sets, but in the case of this show I went ahead and ordered. Hoping for the best that all episodes are complete and uncut. Robert 13 03-15-2018, 03:49 PM Yes, the Vaughn Meader episode was supposed to air, but NBC pulled it and supposedly had the episode destroyed. If that's what happened it's unfortunate, but it was a very sensitive situation at the time considering the JFK tragedy. From watching the episodes on Antenna TV, some season 3 episodes look to have had color restoration work, but not all of them. Will be interesting to see what the episodes look like on the DVD set. For me, I'm not as much concerned about the color restoration thing, I just want all the episodes to be complete and uncut. Season 3 especially has several episodes with music, so I hope none of those episodes are edited. If any episode or episodes are cut/edited, I won't be a happy camper. I usually wait for quality reports before buying DVD sets, but in the case of this show I went ahead and ordered. Hoping for the best that all episodes are complete and uncut. Agreed! I feel the same way. The orangy color of the Season 2 release didn't bother me as much as the way the dvds were authored with the opening ONLY viewable when you first put the disc in. I hope they just left each episode in tact with opening and closings and everything in between. I'm also hopeful they have all the music. 1960'sTVfan 03-15-2018, 04:05 PM Agreed! I feel the same way. The orangy color of the Season 2 release didn't bother me as much as the way the dvds were authored with the opening ONLY viewable when you first put the disc in. I hope they just left each episode in tact with opening and closings and everything in between. I'm also hopeful they have all the music. The issue with the opening credits is the main problem with Questar's season 2 release. All the episodes in that set are uncut except for one, "Joey's House Guest" is edited. What's missing is the first minute or two of the episode, funny banter between Joe Besser and Joey Bishop. I don't know why Questar left that part out, but it is missing. The scene is intact when Antenna TV runs the episode. stevea 03-15-2018, 05:12 PM I'd be surprised if a produced episode was irretrievably destroyed. I've read that in fact the Vaughn Meader episode was, but it more likely resides safely someplace, in its original film format, never digitized. Whether we'll ever see it is another issue. A Jackie Kennedy reference from a 1963 Leave It To Beaver episode was edited out and was gone for years, yet it re-appeared on the DVD issue. 1960'sTVfan 03-15-2018, 07:21 PM One good thing about this complete series DVD release that I can probably go ahead and say is that the episodes should have their complete closing credits, no more having to deal with that split screen/credit crunch nonsense from Antenna TV. The main question is if all the episodes will be uncut. Another good thing about it is that it's brought a little life to this Joey Bishop Show forum and generated some discussion. Joey Bishop Show is not a high ranking sitcom of the 1960's, because it's much underrated and underappreciated. Maybe with this complete series DVD release, more people will discover the show and see how funny it can be. stevea 03-15-2018, 08:37 PM I know the split screen credit crunch thing about Antenna TV has been done to death on these forums, but yes, if you're trying to collect good-quality episodes, that really spoils it. I really like the fourth season, but it's too bad CBS reverted to black and white. Hazel Anyday 03-15-2018, 09:22 PM Speaking of a funny moment that actually makes you laugh, did anyone notice in Ep 2.11 Deep in the Heart of Texas Joe Besser a little too enthusiastically runs forward and trips on the floor falling (but catching himself) head first into the set's wall. Even old Stone Face Joey couldn't help but crack up. Now I thought this scene was funny and glad they left in this "blooper". 1960'sTVfan 03-15-2018, 09:47 PM I know the split screen credit crunch thing about Antenna TV has been done to death on these forums, but yes, if you're trying to collect good-quality episodes, that really spoils it. I really like the fourth season, but it's too bad CBS reverted to black and white. The 4th season gets off to a good start with the episode "Joey Goes To CBS". I like how they started the season with an episode about the change in networks, that was clever. And at the end of the episode where it's mentioned that CBS scheduled Joey's show up against ratings powerhouse Bonanza. LOL, poor Joey couldn't catch a break. First NBC cancels his show, then CBS picks it up but places it against the toughest competition on the schedule. Two episodes from the 4th season that I don't like that much are the Oscar Levant episode, that's sort of a weird episode, but Oscar Levant seemed like a weird character anyway. "The Weed City Story" is the other one, I just don't find much humor in this episode, to me it's kind of a flat episode. The season that had the most money spent on it was probably the 3rd season at NBC. Lots of guest stars were brought in, many episodes in this season have guest stars. Seems like NBC pumped a little extra money into the show for this season, bringing in different guest stars to see if it would boost the ratings. Then when CBS picked up the series for season 4, the budget was probably lower because the show returned to black and white, also CBS ordered only 26 episodes, which was low for 1964-65 when most TV series had 30 or more episodes per season. There were fewer guest stars too this season. In the 4th season, Joey Bishop Show was less extravagant and more of a traditional type sitcom. stevea 03-15-2018, 10:49 PM Yes, the first episode was well-done and clever. Oscar Levant was on a Jack Benny Program and he's one weird dude. I like the 4th season episodes where they bring in Rusty Hamer, fresh off the Danny Thomas Show, which had ended its 11 season run earlier in 1964. Good actor, too bad he's another child actor who ended up with problems and ultimately committed suicide. One guest star was some comedian in the final episode--I'd never heard of him. 1960'sTVfan 03-15-2018, 11:17 PM Yes, the first episode was well-done and clever. Oscar Levant was on a Jack Benny Program and he's one weird dude. I like the 4th season episodes where they bring in Rusty Hamer, fresh off the Danny Thomas Show, which had ended its 11 season run earlier in 1964. Good actor, too bad he's another child actor who ended up with problems and ultimately committed suicide. One guest star was some comedian in the final episode--I'd never heard of him. I like the Rusty Hamer episodes too. All three of those are good. The final episode- "Joey discovers Jackie Clark", I'm not familiar with Jackie Clark either. Maybe he was one of those flash in the pan entertainers, had his 15 minutes of fame and that's it. I think the Jackie Clark episode was intended for earlier in the season, but for whatever reason CBS held it up and aired it last at the 26th spot. The episode that aired 25th- "What'll You Have", where Ellie gives birth to the second child, to me that is really the last episode of the series. The episode with Jackie Clark should have aired earlier in the season but for whatever reason CBS saved it for last. Robert 13 03-16-2018, 01:18 PM Looks like ClassicFlix has begun shipping out orders! :) 1960'sTVfan 03-16-2018, 02:03 PM Looks like ClassicFlix has begun shipping out orders! :) Yes, I requested priority mail with my order so if all goes as scheduled it looks like I should receive the DVD's tomorrow. If the package arrives tomorrow that would be awesome! After I get the DVD's and have a chance to look everything over, I'll post with some comments/review. Hopefully everything will be good and I won't have any problems to report. stevea 03-16-2018, 05:08 PM SFM Entertainment owns this series...they also own the Danny Thomas Show. Maybe they will release some more of that...only 2 seasons were released, and the season 5 set was awful. I'll be looking forward to your review. 1960'sTVfan 03-17-2018, 12:47 PM OK, I had a feeling this was going to happen but unfortunately I have bad news to report. The complete series DVD set is NOT good. To those who haven't purchased this yet but are thinking about it, save your money. The episodes in this set run only 23 minutes, which means they're edited. In fact, these are the same versions that are currently running on Antenna TV. The only difference with these DVD's is that you get to see the whole closing credits of the episodes, no Antenna TV split screen/credit crunches here. Another bad thing is that these are not your normal retail pressed DVD's, they are burned. I don't know what brand/type of DVD's these are, but they don't play at all in my one DVD player, I have another DVD player and the discs are able to play in that one. The season 2 DVD from Questar is much better and superior than this new season 2 release because the Questar set has pressed DVD's and uncut episodes. There is one interesting thing I noticed. On the first disc in the season one set is the pilot episode of this series which is an episode of The Danny Thomas Show. This episode seems uncut and runs 25 minutes. But the Joey Bishop Show episodes are edited. Long story short, I'm just going to stay with my Antenna TV recordings of the episodes, I had a feeling I was going to have to do that anyway. Someone at SFM Entertainment probably had the idea to put this DVD set together in order to try and make a quick buck. Don't go for it like I did, the episodes are edited versions which means this DVD set is junk. It is garbage. 1960'sTVfan 03-17-2018, 01:04 PM One other thing, the lost/missing episode from season 3 with Vaughn Meader is not included in this DVD set. Not a surprise there, I didn't think it would be. Svenfan1234 03-17-2018, 02:24 PM That's a shame that the DVD has all syndicated/edited episodes... even Season 2? 1960'sTVfan 03-17-2018, 02:53 PM That's a shame that the DVD has all syndicated/edited episodes... even Season 2? Yes, even season 2. The 2nd season DVD's from Questar are far superior because those have uncut episodes. Only one episode is edited on that set. This new release sounded fishy to me from the get-go, all of a sudden from out of the blue comes this announcement that the complete series DVD is available. From an uncut episodes perspective, this sounded too good to be true and that's exactly what it turned out to be. I should have known better and not order it, but I decided to take a chance. Could be that the series has developed somewhat of a following with the Antenna TV airings, so SFM Entertainment released a DVD set in attempt to cash in and make a fast buck. Maybe someday a decent DVD studio will pick this series up and release it properly on pressed discs with all uncut episodes. But I won't hold my breath waiting for that to happen. Svenfan1234 03-17-2018, 03:10 PM Yes, even season 2. The 2nd season DVD's from Questar are far superior because those have uncut episodes. Only one episode is edited on that set. This new release sounded fishy to me from the get-go, all of a sudden from out of the blue comes this announcement that the complete series DVD is available. From an uncut episodes perspective, this sounded too good to be true and that's exactly what it turned out to be. I should have known better and not order it, but I decided to take a chance. Could be that the series has developed somewhat of a following with the Antenna TV airings, so SFM Entertainment released a DVD set in attempt to cash in and make a fast buck. Maybe someday a decent DVD studio will pick this series up and release it properly on pressed discs with all uncut episodes. But I won't hold my breath waiting for that to happen. Yeah. Do the episodes look like they were taken from the Antenna prints? How are they in terms of Season 2? 1960'sTVfan 03-17-2018, 03:37 PM Yeah. Do the episodes look like they were taken from the Antenna prints? How are they in terms of Season 2? With this new DVD set, all 4 seasons, the episodes are edited and run 23 minutes long. They are the same edited versions that Antenna TV is running. Only difference with the DVD's is the entire closing credits are there. No split screen/credit crunches. A few season 3 episodes had some color restoration work done to them, these newer versions ended up on the DVD set. I recorded season 3 from Antenna TV before these new/restored versions started popping up, I'm glad I did because generally I don't like the restored versions. For example, in one season 3 episode, Joey's wife Ellie was originally wearing a red dress. But in the restored version that Antenna airs now, the color of her dress is suddenly purple. LOL, it's ridiculous, I'm glad I recorded season 3 before they started messing with some of the episodes and changing the colors. :crazy: :lol: stevea 03-17-2018, 03:50 PM This sounds like what happened with the season 5 release of Danny Thomas show (which didn't even have the intro. with each episode)...those were 22 minute versions. They just used the old Make Room For Daddy syndication prints. Whatever studio did season 6 released unedited versions. I had read on TVshowsonDVD.com that Joey Bishop was a manufacture on demand release, which explains the DVD-Rs. What a shame... Thanks for the update. 1960'sTVfan 03-17-2018, 04:01 PM This sounds like what happened with the season 5 release of Danny Thomas show (which didn't even have the intro. with each episode)...those were 22 minute versions. They just used the old Make Room For Daddy syndication prints. Whatever studio did season 6 released unedited versions. I had read on TVshowsonDVD.com that Joey Bishop was a manufacture on demand release, which explains the DVD-Rs. What a shame... Thanks for the update. You're welcome, sorry I had to post bad news but I had a feeling that was how it's going to be. I'm just going to stay with my recordings from Antenna TV. Hazel Anyday 03-17-2018, 10:39 PM Does this mean Ellie's shaving cream on her face from episode 12 of the 2nd season, "Honeymoon Is Over" is still green and is the orange juice on the breakfast table still green too? Holy Moley, I hope not. 1960'sTVfan 03-17-2018, 11:08 PM Yes, the cream is still green and so is the juice. The episode is also edited, running only 23 minutes. This episode is uncut on the season 2 DVD's from Questar. The green color cream on Ellie's face doesn't bother me, I think she looks funny with that green cream on her face. :lol: But the glass on the table with the green juice, that does look kind of gross. :p For those who have Antenna TV, there really is no reason to buy this new complete series DVD because the episodes are exactly the same edited ones that Antenna airs. Also, the 4th season episode "The Sultan's Gift" runs only 20 minutes on the DVD instead of 23, so more than usual must have been edited out from this episode. I had already thought this episode was edited more heavily because I noticed there are more commercials when Antenna TV runs the episode. Robert 13 03-17-2018, 11:28 PM I received my set today as well. Right off the bat, I noticed that Season 2 prints were the same and then realized as I scanned through that episodes clocked in at 23, some a tad shorter. I am not too disappointed as this is really my only way of seeing the show. Antenna TV has become discontinued in my area since late last year. So I have no choice but this DVD set. BUT, I will hang on to my Questar set for the uncut Season 2 episodes. When it comes to classic tv and DVD lately, we get what we get. It's a shame but no one seems to want to put much effort into these shows anymore. Correction: very few companies bother anymore. There still are a few but in terms of restoration work, you won't see much of it due to cost. I purchased a set of MR & MRS NORTH recently. I'm enjoying the set a lot but the company did absolutely no restoration work which would have made a huge difference. Getting uncut episodes... again...many companies just don't bother. It means getting a hold of another set of episodes and organizing and checking them all. I would have loved for that to happen here. But, most-likely it is as retroTVfan4eva stated, someone figured they would just slap the syndicated episodes on discs and make a quick buck. It is what it is. If you don't have access to the series in any other format and don't have Antenna TV in your area, this is your only choice, take it or leave it. I am glad I'll be able to see the series though (as edited as these episodes are). 1960'sTVfan 03-18-2018, 11:57 AM This DVD set looks like it was put together quickly and cheaply. Same artwork on all the DVD cases, even the DVD's themselves have this same artwork, edited episodes, burned DVD's instead of pressed ones, SFM isn't interested in releasing the uncut episodes, they just want to make some fast easy money with this. For those who don't have Antenna TV, I suppose it's better than nothing. It's too bad Questar didn't continue with the series after releasing season 2. If they had continued, maybe we would have gotten seasons 3 and 4 uncut also. stevea 03-18-2018, 12:27 PM ...When it comes to classic tv and DVD lately, we get what we get. It's a shame but no one seems to want to put much effort into these shows anymore. Correction: very few companies bother anymore. There still are a few but in terms of restoration work, you won't see much of it due to cost... This is a real problem. These DVD sets are not cheap. In many cases the syndication copies still used today were probably made from videotape copies made many years ago. You can tell by seeing them on TV that they are the same old tired versions from years ago. Film noise, buzzes, clicks, etc.? Left in. So these videotape sources were probably what was used for most of the Joey Bishop Show seasons (except season 1). A proper remastering will use the original films, and will have color correction where needed, and extraneous noises zapped. All very expensive, BUT WE'RE PAYING FOR IT. An added benefit in many cases, is improved quality when these episodes are shown on TV (such as greatly improved quality for the remastered 1st and 2nd seasons of My Three Sons). Two major reasons for putting shows out on DVD are getting complete episodes, as originally shown, and the best possible quality. Most of the time, this happens--unfortunately, this time it didn't. 1960'sTVfan 03-18-2018, 01:23 PM Here's a question that maybe someone can answer: How did the season 2 DVD's from Questar end up with uncut episodes? The source for those episodes was also SFM Entertainment. So I suspect that SFM has the uncut episodes of this series, but with these DVD's they released they used the edited versions. stevea 03-18-2018, 07:25 PM Just a conjecture: somebody goofed on this release and didn't think to even check what they got from SFM (or, if SFM is mastering these, they are just using the digitized copies supplied to Antenna TV). Shout made these kind of errors when they were new, with edited episodes of Father Knows Best Season 1 and Rhoda Season 1 (neither of which have been corrected). So, it's the kind of thing that SHOULD be corrected, but probably won't be. Questar probably wouldn't accept edited episodes. That Father Knows Best S1 set was SO bad...not only edited versions, but BADLY edited...the same crummy syndication prints that were (and are digitized and used now on Antenna TV) used for years, with blackout edits and/or other crude, obvious edits. If you look at the comments on Amazon Shout was roundly criticized. Point being, S2 thru S6 were stellar--all unedited. I sent a comment to TVShowsOnDVD.com, so hopefully they'll put something on their website about it. If they're interested enough, or they get enough other comments, maybe they'll contact SFM about it. The thing that's a shame about this release is that it's whole series at once, with season sets at the same time. Not much opportunity for future correction. 1960'sTVfan 03-18-2018, 07:53 PM I guess we can hope for a correction/recall and re-release of the series with the uncut episodes, but I agree that isn't likely to happen. While this complete series DVD is a huge disappointment, they included the pilot episode with the 1st season DVD and that episode does seem to be uncut, with a run time of about 25:15. Just too bad all the Joey Bishop's are edited. The other good thing is that the closing credits of the episodes are presented intact, no split screen/credit crunch. Aside from that, nothing to recommend about this release. stevea 03-18-2018, 08:26 PM Releasing a complete series in this manner--I don't know of a parallel. Somebody ought to make an issue out of it--I'm hoping TVShowsOnDVD.com will. When I sent them a comment I included a link to this thread. Maybe a moderator on this site will see that it's put on the news blog here. 1960'sTVfan 03-18-2018, 09:28 PM Releasing a complete series in this manner--I don't know of a parallel. Somebody ought to make an issue out of it--I'm hoping TVShowsOnDVD.com will. When I sent them a comment I included a link to this thread. Maybe a moderator on this site will see that it's put on the news blog here. If this complete series DVD sells fairly well and if enough people complain about the edited episodes, maybe there will be a re-issue with the uncut episodes. But that's a big maybe. The other thing is, this should really be issued on pressed discs. DVD-R is fine for home recording purposes, but when purchasing retail, pressed discs are the preferred format. I'm having problems with the DVD's in this complete series set. They don't play at all in my one DVD player, they play in the other one but sometimes they pause and freeze up. Maybe these are DVD+R, not DVD-R, I don't know. With pressed discs I never have a problem. Robert 13 03-19-2018, 04:16 PM I completely agree with stevea that "we are paying for it" so this SHOULD have been a complete uncut set at the very least. My guess is that someone (who had no clue what they were doing) compiled this set and it was just a job to them and not one that they did well, frankly. There is no question that uncut episodes exist and probably easily accessible since Questar was able to release uncut episodes on their Season 2 set. (Very happy that I bought that set years ago!) Has anyone noticed that Season 1 has the caricature of Joey slapped over the closing credits in the corner??? I'm assuming that did NOT initially air with that little logo there. It looks wrong. Shows of that era would not have done something like that. It looks like a new element added to the new cuts of Season 1. Just kinda dumb if you ask me. But the main point here is the "edited" episodes. The opening credits of the first color episode is so abrupt and the cuts are not subtle. I noticed some scenes fade into other scenes and it looks like the characters still had dialogue coming out of their mouths. Allied Vaughn, SFM or whoever... they totally screwed this up. LOL! It's laughable. 1960'sTVfan 03-19-2018, 05:24 PM This complete series DVD set looks like it was put together quickly and cheaply, and certainly without regard to uncut episodes. Seems that the studio's main idea/motivation behind this release is to try and make some fast easy money. Think about it, the edited episodes on the DVD's are the same edited episodes that are running on Antenna TV. That is inexcusable. What a rip off. I considered sending mine back and requesting a refund, but it's too much hassle to package everything up and send it back so I'm just going to chalk it up as a loss. At least the pilot episode is uncut, that's basically the only good thing about this set. Usually I wait for quality reports before buying TV show DVD sets. I decided to take a chance with this one despite not having a good feeling about it, so I'm not surprised it turned out to be a dud. Robert 13 03-20-2018, 12:50 PM I considered sending mine back and requesting a refund, but it's too much hassle to package everything up and send it back so I'm just going to chalk it up as a loss. At least the pilot episode is uncut, that's basically the only good thing about this set. Isn't the Pilot Episode also on the Questar Second Season set as a bonus feature? I noticed it on the package as I was looking at it the other night to keep it together with this new set. 1960'sTVfan 03-20-2018, 01:03 PM Isn't the Pilot Episode also on the Questar Second Season set as a bonus feature? Yes it is but on the Questar set the pilot is edited. 1960'sTVfan 03-20-2018, 03:56 PM I found one other positive thing about this complete series DVD. It's not a big positive by any means, but it's something. In the first episode of season 1, titled "On The Spot", during the closing credits the sponsor products are displayed in the lower left corner, Joy dishwashing liquid and Crest toothpaste. Those sponsor plugs are always cool to see. Robert 13 03-20-2018, 04:34 PM I found one other positive thing about this complete series DVD. It's not a big positive by any means, but it's something. In the first episode of season 1, titled "On The Spot", during the closing credits the sponsor products are displayed in the lower left corner, Joy dishwashing liquid and Crest toothpaste. Those sponsor plugs are always cool to see. This gets more puzzling by the minute! LOL The Pilot episode was edited on the Questar set while the episodes were uncut. Yet, it shows up uncut on this new set while all episodes are edited. I think I discovered why the little caricature of Joey on a stool was placed over the corner of the closing credits...to hide the sponsor logos. Yet, they neglected to do so in the episode you mentioned, "On The Spot". I also own the dvd sets of "Car 54, Where Are You?" and there was no attempt made at covering up the sponsor logos. Hmmmm, son-of-a-gun :rolleyes: 1960'sTVfan 03-20-2018, 05:47 PM This gets more puzzling by the minute! LOL The Pilot episode was edited on the Questar set while the episodes were uncut. Yet, it shows up uncut on this new set while all episodes are edited. I think I discovered why the little caricature of Joey on a stool was placed over the corner of the closing credits...to hide the sponsor logos. Yet, they neglected to do so in the episode you mentioned, "On The Spot". I also own the dvd sets of "Car 54, Where Are You?" and there was no attempt made at covering up the sponsor logos. Hmmmm, son-of-a-gun :rolleyes: Car 54 is a show I've never gotten into. I don't have the DVD's but I've read reviews about them and it sounds like both seasons were done rather nicely. Too bad The Joey Bishop Show got such shabby treatment on this complete series DVD. Maybe one day a different studio will release it again and do it the right way, on pressed discs and with uncut episodes. stevea 03-21-2018, 05:16 PM I was just reading the season 2 review on this site. This statement from the review is a concern: "This set makes it clear that it is an "autorized" set, which means that the show is owned and copyrighted by Bellmar Enterprises, and authorized for release by Joey Bishop." (I think they meant "authorized"). I interpret this to mean that Bellmar Enterprises owns the rights to the complete shows, and SFM has the syndication rights. If the SFM name is on this complete series set, it probably means they do not have the rights to the complete episodes. This same problem came up with the Mama's Family DVDs, when Warners had the rights to the syndication episodes only. (It was solved when Time-Life cut a deal with the owners to release the complete episodes.) Is the SFM Entertainment name/copyright on the complete series set? 1960'sTVfan 03-21-2018, 05:48 PM I was just reading the season 2 review on this site. This statement from the review is a concern: "This set makes it clear that it is an "autorized" set, which means that the show is owned and copyrighted by Bellmar Enterprises, and authorized for release by Joey Bishop." (I think they meant "authorized"). I interpret this to mean that Bellmar Enterprises owns the rights to the complete shows, and SFM has the syndication rights. If the SFM name is on this complete series set, it probably means they do not have the rights to the complete episodes. This same problem came up with the Mama's Family DVDs, when Warners had the rights to the syndication episodes only. (It was solved when Time-Life cut a deal with the owners to release the complete episodes.) Is the SFM Entertainment name/copyright on the complete series set? The complete series set has the SFM Entertainment name and logo on the DVD cases, along with the following statement: All rights reserved and renewed by Bellmar Enterprises, Edelman Family Partnership and Danny Thomas Enterprises. This is just a guess, but maybe it was Joey Bishop who arranged for Questar's season 2 DVD to have uncut episodes, since he authorized the set for release. Now that he's passed away, there are edited episodes on this complete series set. stevea 03-21-2018, 07:07 PM Then my guess is that SFM does not have the rights to the complete episodes...other than season 2, the complete episodes have probably never been digitally remastered. Based on the comments on the review of season 2 on this site, it's my guess that the remastering of season 2 had no cleanup work like color correction. If season 2 had at some point been converted to videotape, that was probably the source. Maybe the other seasons exist in that format, as well. All just conjecture...it'd be great if there were some definitive answers. 1960'sTVfan 03-22-2018, 12:53 PM Then my guess is that SFM does not have the rights to the complete episodes...other than season 2, the complete episodes have probably never been digitally remastered. Based on the comments on the review of season 2 on this site, it's my guess that the remastering of season 2 had no cleanup work like color correction. If season 2 had at some point been converted to videotape, that was probably the source. Maybe the other seasons exist in that format, as well. All just conjecture...it'd be great if there were some definitive answers. The season 2 DVD's from Questar are like gold because they have uncut episodes. One episode, "Joey's House Guest" is missing the first minute or so but the other episodes are complete. The main blemish with the Questar set is the way they handled the episode opening credits, but I see that as a minor issue. For seasons 1, 3, and 4, I'll just keep my DVD recordings from Antenna TV since this complete series set turned out to be a dud. Robert 13 03-24-2018, 02:36 AM As I continue to watch Season 1 on DVD, I have noticed that in the episode "Barney The Bloodhound" there seems to be an authoring error. The first part of the episode looks jerky. Not sure if that is how the episode appeared when it aired recently. Also, the episode "Taming of the Brat" ends without resolution. Did it really end that way? You never find out what happens to Ronnie. Very odd! This has got to be the worst DVD set produced this year. 1960'sTVfan 03-24-2018, 10:43 AM As I continue to watch Season 1 on DVD, I have noticed that in the episode "Barney The Bloodhound" there seems to be an authoring error. The first part of the episode looks jerky. Not sure if that is how the episode appeared when it aired recently. Also, the episode "Taming of the Brat" ends without resolution. Did it really end that way? You never find out what happens to Ronnie. Very odd! This has got to be the worst DVD set produced this year. Yes it's a terrible DVD set. Edited episodes, discs are poor quality and have problems playing, just bad news all the way around. The pilot episode is uncut, that's basically the only good thing about this set. The way the episodes are edited, part of what's missing appears to be the closing/tag scenes, so we don't get to see how the episodes actually end. The airings on Antenna TV are the same way, no closing/tag scenes. I did notice something interesting with the 1st season episode titled "Help Wanted". On the DVD set, the episode is edited but it has the closing/tag scene. When Antenna TV runs the episode, it is also edited but there is no closing/tag scene. So while both versions are edited, the DVD version has the tag scene but the tag is cut when Antenna TV runs the episode. :crazy: :lol: On this DVD set, "Help Wanted" is the only episode I've noticed so far that has any differences in the editing. All the other episodes appear to be the exact same edited ones that Antenna TV is showing. stevea 03-24-2018, 12:49 PM Am I correct in thinking that season 1 was never syndicated before Antenna ran them? If so, it really surprises me that they did not remaster a complete-episode version, when Antenna decided to air it (in anticipation of a "good" DVD release). As it was done, the whole thing sounds like a mess. Ditching the tag scene is obviously one of the easiest edits. That alone cuts a couple of minutes. I'm really surprised TVShowsOnDVD.com posted nothing about this. Usually they're pretty responsive. 1960'sTVfan 03-24-2018, 03:35 PM Am I correct in thinking that season 1 was never syndicated before Antenna ran them? If so, it really surprises me that they did not remaster a complete-episode version, when Antenna decided to air it (in anticipation of a "good" DVD release). As it was done, the whole thing sounds like a mess. Ditching the tag scene is obviously one of the easiest edits. That alone cuts a couple of minutes. I'm really surprised TVShowsOnDVD.com posted nothing about this. Usually they're pretty responsive. When Antenna TV started airing the series last year, it was the first time season 1 episodes had been shown since their original run in 1961-62. Yes, this complete series DVD is pretty much a mess. Very disappointing although I didn't really have a good feeling about it from the beginning. I should have waited for quality reports before making the purchase, but I decided to take a chance. Maybe one day another studio will release it properly, on pressed discs and with uncut episodes. Tag scenes are usually short, about a minute or a little less but sometimes can run a little longer. Robert 13 03-25-2018, 11:22 AM For anyone interested, you can let SFM know how disappointed you are in this release by sending them a message here: http://www.sfment.com/index.php/contact/#1330962113 1960'sTVfan 03-25-2018, 01:08 PM This is basically a bootleg quality set released at retail, which is inexcusable. My homemade DVD's from the Antenna TV airings are preferred over this garbage. If enough people complain, maybe something will be done but will just have to wait and see. As far as I'm concerned, the proper solution is for the series to be re-issued on pressed discs with uncut episodes. I don't want burned DVD's because they are prone to having problems. Robert 13 03-25-2018, 05:08 PM This is basically a bootleg quality set released at retail, which is inexcusable. My homemade DVD's from the Antenna TV airings are preferred over this garbage. If enough people complain, maybe something will be done but will just have to wait and see. As far as I'm concerned, the proper solution is for the series to be re-issued on pressed discs with uncut episodes. I don't want burned DVD's because they are prone to having problems. I'm just curious... Do your recorded episodes (the ones that aired on AntennaTV) have that odd jerky motion in some scenes? It is evident in the first part of the IRS episode as well almost all of the "Double Exposure" episode. 1960'sTVfan 03-25-2018, 05:37 PM I'm just curious... Do your recorded episodes (the ones that aired on AntennaTV) have that odd jerky motion in some scenes? It is evident in the first part of the IRS episode as well almost all of the "Double Exposure" episode. My recordings from Antenna TV are fine, no jerky motion in the video. There are two episodes from season 3 that have technical issues with the telecast so I want to record those again the next time Antenna airs them. With this complete series DVD, my guess is that something occurred during the DVD transfer process to cause the jerky motion in the video. The set looks like it was quickly and carelessly done, it really is a shame. Maybe one day a decent DVD studio will come to the rescue, re-issue the series and do it properly. Robert 13 03-25-2018, 09:11 PM My recordings from Antenna TV are fine, no jerky motion in the video. There are two episodes from season 3 that have technical issues with the telecast so I want to record those again the next time Antenna airs them. With this complete series DVD, my guess is that something occurred during the DVD transfer process to cause the jerky motion in the video. The set looks like it was quickly and carelessly done, it really is a shame. Maybe one day a decent DVD studio will come to the rescue, re-issue the series and do it properly. I hope so but after a 14-year wait, this is really sad. All that restoration work on Season 1 just for it to wind up edited and sloppy. I sent SFM a message but I don't expect they will respond or do anything about this. Hazel Anyday 03-25-2018, 10:03 PM SFM seems to make a practice of releasing lousy sloppily pressed (transferred, whatever) DVD sets and always always used edited versions of TV shows. My sad tale of woe begins with a show I really do like (and couldn't wait to buy, as opposed to this Joey program) is Real McCoys. The first 3 seasons were released by Infinity in partnership with SFM these were "pressed" (I guess that's the term) but those 1st 3 seasons were on real DVDs not -R or +Rs. But then disaster stuck when SFM (no longer with Infinity as they went out of business) when SFM, after years of delay, finally released seasons 4 thru 6 BUT this time SFM released these on -R discs, not the real commercial type DVDs. These last 3 seasons are a mess, some discs will NOT play at all or on discs that do play 2 or 3 episodes or even more in some cases will freeze up and stay froze. Some discs do play fine but those that don't ruin the whole set. Just a little self checking BEFORE they released these would have made a world of difference. Granted they are all edited (syndicated versions) but I knew that going in, and was still happy to buy BUT I didn't know that the discs would not even play or freeze up. SFM, you got a lot of Apologizing to do for your crappy releases. stevea 03-25-2018, 10:23 PM I'm just curious... Do your recorded episodes (the ones that aired on AntennaTV) have that odd jerky motion in some scenes? It is evident in the first part of the IRS episode as well almost all of the "Double Exposure" episode. That jerky motion is another sign of a bad mastering job. I'd bet there are too many episodes per DVD...when you start changing the recording speed below SP (which they probably did to save a few cents) you start getting these unpleasant artifacts. Bootleg sets do that jerky motion thing...and most of the time, there's tons of episodes per DVD on those...again, somebody trying to save a few cents. Another sign of a bad mastering job is audio and video getting out of sync...I wouldn't be surprised if you come across some of that, too. Robert 13 03-26-2018, 10:33 AM I completely forgot that I had a handful of unedited episodes from Seasons 1, 3 & 4 that someone gave me in a trade years ago. I took a quick glimpse at them this morning. While the quality is definitely not up to par with the dvd quality, the episodes are in fact unedited. For example, "Windfall For Mom", I now see what was cut in the opening segment. Only thing is it is not in color like the version on the dvd. Mine is b&w but it also has both sponsor bumpers and original commercials. So I take it someone transferred these from original reels of the show. THAT is what I wish had been on the official dvd release. It would have been magnificent to have these shows in their entirety AND in the quality they are in. I watched the episode "That's Show Biz" last night and found it very entertaining and fun. The slight jerky motion was in the first segment. That cleared up in the rest of the episode. 1960'sTVfan 03-26-2018, 10:56 AM SFM seems to make a practice of releasing lousy sloppily pressed (transferred, whatever) DVD sets and always always used edited versions of TV shows. My sad tale of woe begins with a show I really do like (and couldn't wait to buy, as opposed to this Joey program) is Real McCoys. The first 3 seasons were released by Infinity in partnership with SFM these were "pressed" (I guess that's the term) but those 1st 3 seasons were on real DVDs not -R or +Rs. But then disaster stuck when SFM (no longer with Infinity as they went out of business) when SFM, after years of delay, finally released seasons 4 thru 6 BUT this time SFM released these on -R discs, not the real commercial type DVDs. These last 3 seasons are a mess, some discs will NOT play at all or on discs that do play 2 or 3 episodes or even more in some cases will freeze up and stay froze. Some discs do play fine but those that don't ruin the whole set. Just a little self checking BEFORE they released these would have made a world of difference. Granted they are all edited (syndicated versions) but I knew that going in, and was still happy to buy BUT I didn't know that the discs would not even play or freeze up. SFM, you got a lot of Apologizing to do for your crappy releases. I suspect that SFM might be using DVD+R discs instead of DVD-R, that could account for the playback compatibility problems. And with this Joey Bishop set they just put out, the episodes might have been transferred to DVD at an improper speed which could result in the jerky motion of the video. The set is basically a bad quality bootleg set being sold at retail. Poorly done, edited episodes. SFM should be ashamed, but I doubt that they care. Pressed discs are always preferred when buying DVD's at retail. With burned DVD's, you never know what you are getting. Burned DVD's are fine for home recording purposes. I do have some DVD's that I bought from Warner Archive that are the burned variety, but Warner might be using DVD-R discs because I don't have problems playing those discs. Unless another DVD studio re-issues the series properly, I will just keep my homemade DVD's of The Joey Bishop Show from Antenna TV. The discs turned out nice, seasons 1 and 3 have five DVD's each, season 4 has four DVD's. Each episode is the full 30 minute telecast, I left the commercials in because it's too much hassle to edit them out. I didn't have to record season 2 because I have the DVD set from Questar. There are two episodes from season 3 that I want to record again, once I'm able to record those I'll be done. 1960'sTVfan 03-26-2018, 11:18 AM I completely forgot that I had a handful of unedited episodes from Seasons 1, 3 & 4 that someone gave me in a trade years ago. I took a quick glimpse at them this morning. While the quality is definitely not up to par with the dvd quality, the episodes are in fact unedited. For example, "Windfall For Mom", I now see what was cut in the opening segment. Only thing is it is not in color like the version on the dvd. Mine is b&w but it also has both sponsor bumpers and original commercials. So I take it someone transferred these from original reels of the show. THAT is what I wish had been on the official dvd release. It would have been magnificent to have these shows in their entirety AND in the quality they are in. Very good, that's cool if you have a few uncut episodes from seasons 1, 3, and 4. On You Tube, someone posted the season 3 episode with Phil Foster and Leo Durocher, the episode is uncut and has original commercials. Robert 13 03-26-2018, 12:22 PM Very good, that's cool if you have a few uncut episodes from seasons 1, 3, and 4. On You Tube, someone posted the season 3 episode with Phil Foster and Leo Durocher, the episode is uncut and has original commercials. I believe I have that one on the discs that I was given. Most are from Season 2 & 3. Only a couple from Season 1. If the quality were better, I'd just watch those. What bothers me most is that most episodes so far seem unresolved in terms of storyline. It's like the episode just ends before the tag scene. Is that how they air on Antenna TV? 1960'sTVfan 03-26-2018, 01:05 PM I believe I have that one on the discs that I was given. Most are from Season 2 & 3. Only a couple from Season 1. If the quality were better, I'd just watch those. What bothers me most is that most episodes so far seem unresolved in terms of storyline. It's like the episode just ends before the tag scene. Is that how they air on Antenna TV? Yes, the tag scenes are cut on the Antenna TV airings. The complete series DVD are the exact same edited episodes that Antenna TV is currently running, but I did find one exception. The 1st season episode "Help Wanted", on the DVD set this episode does have the tag scene, but when Antenna airs it the tag is cut. Also, the 4th season episode "The Sultan's Gift", this episode runs only about 20 minutes instead of the usual 23 minute edits, so for whatever reason more scenes were deleted from this episode. stevea 03-26-2018, 02:49 PM I completely forgot that I had a handful of unedited episodes from Seasons 1, 3 & 4 that someone gave me in a trade years ago. I took a quick glimpse at them this morning. While the quality is definitely not up to par with the dvd quality, the episodes are in fact unedited. For example, "Windfall For Mom", I now see what was cut in the opening segment. Only thing is it is not in color like the version on the dvd. Mine is b&w but it also has both sponsor bumpers and original commercials. So I take it someone transferred these from original reels of the show. THAT is what I wish had been on the official dvd release. It would have been magnificent to have these shows in their entirety AND in the quality they are in. I watched the episode "That's Show Biz" last night and found it very entertaining and fun. The slight jerky motion was in the first segment. That cleared up in the rest of the episode. If your unedited episodes were in color, you could remaster the edited episodes that SFM did, if you had a DVD recorder. But they'd look pretty strange bouncing back and forth from black and white to color. On the other hand, if all that was missing was an opening segment and/or a tag scene, it would probably be worthwhile, and you could keep the commercials. stevea 03-26-2018, 02:51 PM I suspect that SFM might be using DVD+R discs instead of DVD-R, that could account for the playback compatibility problems. The few times I've mistakenly bought DVD pluses, I've had trouble. You're probably right that this release used them. Robert 13 03-26-2018, 04:38 PM If your unedited episodes were in color, you could remaster the edited episodes that SFM did, if you had a DVD recorder. But they'd look pretty strange bouncing back and forth from black and white to color. On the other hand, if all that was missing was an opening segment and/or a tag scene, it would probably be worthwhile, and you could keep the commercials. I wouldn't know the first thing about doing that and it would look very amateurish if I tried. :lol: I may watch them out of order sometime for fun but it just isn't the same as a nicely produced dvd release. I keep referring to Car 54's dvd release which was done nicely. The first season, they did not put the episodes in order BUT they were all there, remastered and complete and even with some sponsor bumpers. They also did not cover up the sponsor on the closing credits like was done on Joey Bishop. That was a very odd thing to do. So many other releases are able to leave those in. What was the big deal here? 1960'sTVfan 04-05-2018, 08:31 PM It's a shame that this complete series DVD turned out to be such a huge disappointment. The set should have had uncut episodes, there was no reason for the same edited episodes that Antenna TV is running to end up on the DVD set. Whoever's job it was to put the set together, either they didn't know what they were doing or didn't care, it's probably a little of both, it's very sad. And to make it worse, they used burned DVD's for the set instead of pressed discs, seems like they used DVD+R's instead of DVD-R because the discs don't play in my one DVD player but they do play in the other one. If I wouldn't be able to play the discs at all, I would just toss the set in the garbage. I did throw away season 2 because I have season 2 from Questar and that set has uncut episodes. So I kept seasons 1, 3, and 4, but most of the time I'll probably watch my homemade DVD's from the Antenna TV airings because those are on DVD-R discs and don't have playback problems. Svenfan1234 04-05-2018, 09:04 PM It's a shame that this complete series DVD turned out to be such a huge disappointment. The set should have had uncut episodes, there was no reason for the same edited episodes that Antenna TV is running to end up on the DVD set. Whoever's job it was to put the set together, either they didn't know what they were doing or didn't care, it's probably a little of both, it's very sad. And to make it worse, they used burned DVD's for the set instead of pressed discs, seems like they used DVD+R's instead of DVD-R because the discs don't play in my one DVD player but they do play in the other one. If I wouldn't be able to play the discs at all, I would just toss the set in the garbage. I did throw away season 2 because I have season 2 from Questar and that set has uncut episodes. So I kept seasons 1, 3, and 4, but most of the time I'll probably watch my homemade DVD's from the Antenna TV airings because those are on DVD-R discs and don't have playback problems. I would get this set because if I recorded it, it would end up in a horrid letterbox format and I don't see why I should do that if there's a full screen set out. Too bad it wasn't Shout Factory or another company doing it that would've released uncut episodes. 1960'sTVfan 04-05-2018, 09:56 PM I would get this set because if I recorded it, it would end up in a horrid letterbox format and I don't see why I should do that if there's a full screen set out. Too bad it wasn't Shout Factory or another company doing it that would've released uncut episodes. If you would record The Joey Bishop Show episodes from Antenna TV and make your own DVD's, the episodes wouldn't be letterboxed because Antenna telecasts in full screen. RTV telecasts in widescreen/letterbox, so I don't recommend recording from them although they edit the episodes a little less compared to Antenna TV. Svenfan1234 04-05-2018, 10:03 PM If you would record The Joey Bishop Show episodes from Antenna TV and make your own DVD's, the episodes wouldn't be letterboxed because Antenna telecasts in full screen. RTV telecasts in widescreen/letterbox, so I don't recommend recording from them although they edit the episodes a little less compared to Antenna TV. I don't record from a DVR or VHS, I record from a video card in my laptop. That may or may not have something to do with it. 1960'sTVfan 04-05-2018, 10:15 PM I don't record from a DVR or VHS, I record from a video card in my laptop. That may or may not have something to do with it. OK, so you use a different recording method. I record and save on my DVR, then transfer to DVD. Robert 13 04-24-2018, 01:58 PM Just an update as I have begun watching Season 3 dvds... The glitch I had mentioned in an earlier post (jittery motion in certain scenes in episodes of Season 1) does not occur in Season 3 episodes. I am now thinking that this may have occurred in the restoration process of Season 1?! :confused: The episodes of Season 3 look very much like Questar's Season 2 release episodes. It's a shame that Season 1 has that problem. It would be nice for a company to re-release Season 1 in full uncut episodes. It really seems so different than the rest of the series. 1960'sTVfan 04-24-2018, 05:12 PM Just an update as I have begun watching Season 3 dvds... The glitch I had mentioned in an earlier post (jittery motion in certain scenes in episodes of Season 1) does not occur in Season 3 episodes. I am now thinking that this may have occurred in the restoration process of Season 1?! :confused: The episodes of Season 3 look very much like Questar's Season 2 release episodes. It's a shame that Season 1 has that problem. It would be nice for a company to re-release Season 1 in full uncut episodes. It really seems so different than the rest of the series. Seasons 1, 3, and 4 all need to be re-issued and released properly, on pressed discs and with uncut episodes. But I don't expect that will happen anytime soon if at all. RTV is currently airing the season 3 episodes, they show more of the episodes than Antenna TV does. RTV airs the opening scenes and the tag scenes, Antenna usually cuts those out. In fact, the RTV airings seem pretty close to uncut, not that much is edited out. |