I watched ODAAT for several years from the time it became a new sitcom in 1975 up to approximately the very late 1970s. I then stopped watching it regularly and in the following years when I tuned in occasionally, I noticed that there were changes in the makeup of the Romano household. It appeared that Julie and Barbara had men in their lives as they never had when they were in their teens and there was a new regular character named Alex, a boy of about 14 who was a wise-cracking, "wise-beyond-his-years" type ( and I never found out how he became part of the Romano household until I found out about sitcomsonline.com approximately two years ago, and read about it) .
Decades afterward I heard about the factors that apply to all TV shows which have "Jumped-the-Shark" and that is that new regular characters are somehow incorporated, and often the new character is a very young person, someone who is still a child, or teen, at least that was very often the case in the mid to late 1970s. Also another element of "Jumping - The -Shark" is when an unmarried character gets married and has a child.
It is a way to bring in a "new face" into the series.

So the character of Alex was similar to what The Brady Bunch did by incorporating "Cousin Oliver" and also similar to what "The Partridge Family" did by bringing in "Ricky" and Archie's Place did by bringing in Stephanie.

Did Alex ruin ODAAT like Cousin Oliver ruined the Brady Bunch and little Ricky ruined The Partridge Family, and Stephanie ruined All In The Family?

I watched ODAAT for several years from the time it became a new sitcom in 1975 up to approximately the very late 1970s. I then stopped watching it regularly and in the following years when I tuned in occasionally, I noticed that there were changes in the makeup of the Romano household. It appeared that Julie and Barbara had men in their lives as they never had when they were in their teens and there was a new regular character named Alex, a boy of about 14 who was a wise-cracking, "wise-beyond-his-years" type ( and I never found out how he became part of the Romano household until I found out about sitcomsonline.com approximately two years ago, and read about it) .
Decades afterward I heard about the factors that apply to all TV shows which have "Jumped-the-Shark" and that is that new regular characters are somehow incorporated, and often the new character is a very young person, someone who is still a child, or teen, at least that was very often the case in the mid to late 1970s. Also another element of "Jumping - The -Shark" is when an unmarried character gets married and has a child.
It is a way to bring in a "new face" into the series.

So the character of Alex was similar to what The Brady Bunch did by incorporating "Cousin Oliver" and also similar to what "The Partridge Family" did by bringing in "Ricky" and Archie's Place did by bringing in Stephanie.

Did Alex ruin ODAAT like Cousin Oliver ruined the Brady Bunch and little Ricky ruined The Partridge Family, and Stephanie ruined All In The Family?

For me um, no.

He let Ann show a softer side and gave her a different kind of parenting stories with a boy. Also he provided Schneider with a surrogate son.

For me it jumped the shark when the boy was written out after 3 years with a couple of throw away lines by Ann and her new husband who obviously didn't want him around. Which was really tacky because the character had abandonment issues after his father was killed and his mother left him on Ann's doorstep basically.

No. Alex added to the show.

No. Alex added to the show.

Absolutely. :wave:

The show really picked up in Season 5 with the addition of a dark haired, bearded, smiling hot guy!!:) :)

The show really picked up in Season 5 with the addition of a dark haired, bearded, smiling hot guy!!:) :)

The show really picked up in the pilot with the addition of someone dribbling a basketball.

For um:

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For um:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=83374


Poor Mark was called a "square bore" over on that thread! :lol: :D

Jumped the sharks when Barbara got married! How many all American red blooded boys wanna see there dream girl get pawed by her husband? Boring....:(

The show really picked up in Season 5 with the addition of a dark haired, bearded, smiling hot guy!!:) :)

Incorrect, the precise jump the shark moment was when that Lembeck clown joined the cast. Terrible actor, not good looking at all, he's better off being unseen and working behind the camera as a director or producer. ;) :lol:

For me, the jump the shark moment is when Ann was given the short hairstyle. She lost a lot of her cuteness and sex appeal with that lousy butch haircut. But I guess at that point of the show, season 4, the producers wanted to give her a career woman/businesslike type of look. :rolleyes: It didn't work for me, that's for sure.

Incorrect, the precise jump the shark moment was when that Lembeck clown joined the cast. Terrible actor, not good looking at all, he's better off being unseen and working behind the camera as a director or producer. ;) :lol:

For me, the jump the shark moment is when Ann was given the short hairstyle. She lost a lot of her cuteness and sex appeal with that lousy butch haircut. But I guess at that point of the show, season 4, the producers wanted to give her a career woman/businesslike type of look. :rolleyes: It didn't work for me, that's for sure.


OMG !!! OK, when I first read this I was all ready to jump down your throat!!!:mad: Than I noticed the smiley's at the end so I'm assuming you are joking!;)

Not only is Michael goodlooking, seeing more and more roles he has played besides Max, he really is a wonderful actor!;)

OMG !!! OK, when I first read this I was all ready to jump down your throat!!!:mad: Than I noticed the smiley's at the end so I'm assuming you are joking!;)

Not only is Michael goodlooking, seeing more and more roles he has played besides Max, he really is a wonderful actor!;)

He also has a thick and sweet candy cane! ;) :wave:

Michael is a wonderful actor!

He's OK as an actor, he's been versatile and done different things. I like him on the Mary Hartman show. He's funny as Clete the goofy TV reporter.

Jumped the sharks when Barbara got married! How many all American red blooded boys wanna see there dream girl get pawed by her husband? Boring....:(

Valerie had been married, so it didn't really bother me Barbara was. But I never really thought of her as Barbara Royer.

Valerie had been married, so it didn't really bother me Barbara was. But I never really thought of her as Barbara Royer.


Barbara Roy(er) to the world!!! :lol:

He's OK as an actor, he's been versatile and done different things. I like him on the Mary Hartman show. He's funny as Clete the goofy TV reporter.

I just saw him as Arnie Wakeman on "Murder she wrote"!!! :) He was really GOOD!!!! ;) Like I said before there is so much more to him than just Max Horvath or even Clete Meizenheimer! ;) He was funny and so very HOT and GORGEOUS as both! :eyes: But Michael REALLY has great acting skills with a wide range of different type characters ! ;)

I wish everyone would really check out some of the other roles Michael Lembeck has done! :) ;) :heart:

At least none of the following things never happen any one of witch woulda really made the show jumps the shark!
1 Ann never had a late in life baby
2 Julie and Max's kid wasn't hyper aged to a wise crackin 5 yr old
3 no character was ever kidnapped by an UFO
4 Ted Macginley never join the cast
5 no dream sequences!

I wish everyone would really check out some of the other roles Michael Lembeck has done! :) ;) :heart:

Well, he's back on Room 222 on Monday, but you've already made me sit through that :wave:

At least none of the following things never happen any one of witch woulda really made the show jumps the shark!
1 Ann never had a late in life baby
2 Julie and Max's kid wasn't hyper aged to a wise crackin 5 yr old
3 no character was ever kidnapped by an UFO
4 Ted Macginley never join the cast
5 no dream sequences!

I would have enjoyed number 3.

I would have enjoyed number 3.

Good point it would be fun to probe Barbara:)

Good point it would be fun to probe Barbara:)


O Willie!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :D :wave:

At least none of the following things never happen any one of witch woulda really made the show jumps the shark!
1 Ann never had a late in life baby
2 Julie and Max's kid wasn't hyper aged to a wise crackin 5 yr old
3 no character was ever kidnapped by an UFO
4 Ted Macginley never join the cast
5 no dream sequences!


1- Thank GOD!!! That gets so old!!! :rolleyes:

4- :lol: :D

O Willie!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :D :wave:

I mean totally fore science!


Come with us Barbara...think of the frequent flier miles you'll earn!

Well, he's back on Room 222 on Monday, but you've already made me sit through that :wave:


OMG!!!! REALLY!!!!! :eek: I'm assuming it's the last season one where he is the nerdy wanna be comedian bespectacled nephew of Mr. Kauffman ? ;)

He was ADORABLE in that role!!! :heart: Thanks for the heads up Opus!!! ;) I will check local listings and be up bright and early to watch it!!! :) :wave:

1- Thank GOD!!! That gets so old!!! :rolleyes:

4- :lol: :D

1 I know! Family ties, growing pains, fresh prince, Roseanne, how many others?

4 I have nothing against Ted he just show up wen the show is basically over!:)

OMG!!!! REALLY!!!!! :eek: I'm assuming it's the last season one where he is the nerdy wanna be comedian bespectacled nephew of Mr. Kauffman ? ;)


That would be the one. Cry Uncle.

O Willie!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :D :wave:

Dang it u set me up so nice for that one, I shoulda said:

No, it's Willie O, the Willie goes first, then the o!:) :wave:

That would be the one. Cry Uncle.


So young!!! From 1974 and the Murder she wrote that I just saw from 1987, at almost 40 years old !:) 13 years later, same guy ,totally different characters! I LOVE them both!!! I really LOVE this guy!!!! :heart: :eyes: :love:

Dang it u set me up so nice for that one, I shoulda said:

No, it's Willie O, the Willie goes first, then the o!:) :wave:


The girl goes O WILLIE!!!!! :happyface Than Willie gives her the BIG O!!!!!! Right??? :eek: :happyface :lol: :D :wave:

The girl goes O WILLIE!!!!! :happyface Than Willie gives her the BIG O!!!!!! Right??? :eek: :happyface :lol: :D :wave:


Dang girl that's naughty are you gonna get anything from Santa? But I loves it!:happyface :wave: :cool:

Personally I think the naughtier you r the more you should get!:wave:

Dang girl that's naughty are you gonna get anything from Santa? But I loves it!:happyface :wave: :cool:


" Santa baby, hurry down my chimney tonight"! ;) :happyface

Personally I think the naughtier you r the more you should get!:wave:


That's my Michael!!! :heart: He really showed great acting skills playing a bad boy in Gorp!!! ;) :D

That's my Michael!!! :heart: He really showed great acting skills playing a bad boy in Gorp!!! ;) :D

Hope Santa come down ur chimney and bring u all u want fore Christmas! Mr Michael with a big red bow on his head, all tied, er wrapped up 4 u!:wave: :tree: :santa2: present:

Hope Santa come down ur chimney and bring u all u want fore Christmas! Mr Michael with a big red bow on his head, all tied, er wrapped up 4 u!:wave: :tree: :santa2: present:

Thank you Willie! :wave: Hope you get Ginger from Gilligan's Island for your Christmas present! ;) :heart:

Thank you Willie! :wave: Hope you get Ginger from Gilligan's Island for your Christmas present! ;) :heart:


Thank u her or Barbara whoever comes first:eek: :wave: :cool:

I just saw him as Arnie Wakeman on "Murder she wrote"!!! :) He was really GOOD!!!! ;) Like I said before there is so much more to him than just Max Horvath or even Clete Meizenheimer! ;) He was funny and so very HOT and GORGEOUS as both! :eyes: But Michael REALLY has great acting skills with a wide range of different type characters ! ;)

I wish everyone would really check out some of the other roles Michael Lembeck has done! :) ;) :heart:

I haven't seen him in nearly as many shows and movies as you have, but I will say that he's been able to make a good career for himself in the entertainment field. He isn't super famous, but in the long run I think what most people want is to be able to have a good career and be successful in whatever they choose to do.

I haven't seen him in nearly as many shows and movies as you have, but I will say that he's been able to make a good career for himself in the entertainment field. He isn't super famous, but in the long run I think what most people want is to be able to have a good career and be successful in whatever they choose to do.


;) :wave:

You need to get on Amazon and Ebay and order up ANY DVD movie or TV show that you can find that he has been on !:) And check TV schedules to look out for when he guest stars on shows that they play on TV like I do! ;) So you can truly marvel in the wonderful acting talent and handsomeness of this man! ;):) :D

But seriously,yeah he is a good yet under rated actor. Along with acting and directing,he is also a singer and a good dancer as well! Multi talented,but in his personal life he is very modest. Isn't really an in the spotlight type person! I find that sweet and endearing ! :) :heart:

;) :wave:

You need to get on Amazon and Ebay and order up ANY DVD movie or TV show that you can find that he has been on !:) And check TV schedules to look out for when he guest stars on shows that they play on TV like I do! ;) So you can truly marvel in the wonderful acting talent and handsomeness of this man! ;):) :D

OK I'll make a deal with you. Divorce your hub there and move out here to me, I'll let you bring all your Michael DVD's and I will sit and snuggle nice and cozy with you on the sofa and watch them. I won't mind watching them because after a few moments of snuggling with me, you would lose all interest in Mr. Lembeck and your fetish with him would be eliminated forever, that I can guarantee. :lol:

OK I'll make a deal with you. Divorce your hub there and move out here to me, I'll let you bring all your Michael DVD's and I will sit and snuggle nice and cozy with you on the sofa and watch them. I won't mind watching them because after a few moments of snuggling with me, you would lose all interest in Mr. Lembeck and your fetish with him would be eliminated forever, that I can guarantee. :lol:


Well you would have to wear a "Max mask" and brown pajamas! :) :wave:


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Well you would have to wear a "Max mask" and brown pajamas! :) :wave:


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A mask wouldn't really be necessary because I sort of resemble him anyway. Wear brown PJ's? Not a problem, I can do that, I look good when I wear dark colors. ;) :) :wave:

A mask wouldn't really be necessary because I sort of resemble him anyway

You look like this??

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You look like this??

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:lol:, no thank goodness not quite like that. I have dark hair and a dark beard, so I resemble him in that photo she posted where he has the brown PJ's on. I don't look EXACTLY like him, but there's a resemblance. One difference is I don't have the dark eyebrows, his eyebrows are darker than mine, but I could color mine and make them darker if it would make Bonnie happy. ;) :lol: :wave:

OK dye your eyebrows darker and you MUST be able to make a good fish chowder! Than my bags are packed and I'm there! ;) :D


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Thank u her or Barbara whoever comes first:eek: :wave: :cool:

You can have Ginger. I won't argue with you on that.

You can have Ginger. I won't argue with you on that.


Nordy! I picture you as more of a Mary Ann guy ! Am I right? I know you like the brunettes! ;)

OK dye your eyebrows darker and you MUST be able to make a good fish chowder! Than my bags are packed and I'm there! ;) :D

OK but you have to get divorced first. We cannot hook up until you officially become a single woman. ;) :)

Nordy! I picture you as more of a Mary Ann guy ! Am I right? I know you like the brunettes! ;)

Exactly!! :) :) An occasional blonde thrown in for color :lol: :lol:

You can have Ginger. I won't argue with you on that.

Thanks u and i do overall like brunettes two...but Ginger !come on u don't find her Atleast a little bit...enticing...?

Naaaa I'm not a fan of Gingers. The only one I like is

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Here's the kind of Gingers I like! :) :heart:


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:bighug: Bonnie!! :heart:

:bighug: Bonnie!! :heart:



Hi Nordy!!!! :wave: :kiss: :heart: :cc:

Naaaa I'm not a fan of Gingers. The only one I like is

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That girl is very pretty. Who is she?

That is Amy Adams

That is Amy Adams
She is beautiful. :)

Yes, she always ranks on the Top 10 list of Dream girls....

Yes, she always ranks on the Top 10 list of Dream girls.... Hard to believe she's in her mid forties. I thought she looked like she was in her early thirties. She looks great!

Well this is the most beautiful woman in the world and she is 56...

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^^^ Valerie does look stunning.

My dad loves Fran Drescher and she is 59

Well this is the most beautiful woman in the world and she is 56...

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. To you Val is the most beautiful woman, to me she is pretty but doesn't really rock my boat. She never has. She does have nice tits though, I'll give her credit for that. :lol:

She does have nice tits though, I'll give her credit for that. :lol:
^^^ Typical man statement! :lol:

^^^ Valerie does look stunning.

My dad loves Fran Drescher and she is 59

Nice titties on Frannie there too. They look like they're about ready to slip out of her top. :lol:

Nice titties on Frannie there too. They look like they're about ready to slip out of her top. :lol:
Her bra looks a bit bunched up in that photo.
She really is a beauty.

Her bra looks a bit bunched up in that photo.
She really is a beauty.

Yes she is. Of course she was prettier when she was younger, but even now at 59 she's still beautiful.

Yes she is. Of course she was prettier when she was younger, but even now at 59 she's still beautiful.
Francine has definitely aged very well. The woman is absolutely gorgeous. Personally, I think she's more attractive than Valerie Bertinelli, but don't tell opus or Nordy! :lol:

Oh I have a love for Fran the only reason I did watch The Nanny...not as much as Valerie she outranks pretty much everyone :lol: :lol:

Oh I have a love for Fran the only reason I did watch The Nanny...not as much as Valerie she outranks pretty much everyone :lol: :lol:
Your gal! :)

Yes, that's her alright :) :) :)

Personally, I think she's more attractive than Valerie Bertinelli, but don't tell opus or Nordy! :lol:

I hope your egg rolls are cold tomorrow :wave:

I hope your egg rolls are cold tomorrow :wave:
You're funny! :lol: :wave:

Actually we are going to the Palace of Wong Chinese restaurant tomorrow and I will be getting EGG drop soup and a chow fun!!! :)